Mark Dohner Exposes Truth on Falling Out w/ Logan Paul & George Janko | Ep. 94

[@MarkDohner]

feeling really good lately and so glad you guys are here to support me in my new journey!!

[@MrPeasant213]

nah shes the asshole, you set your boundaries she didnt care and still expected you to do what she wants. no respect

[@FatherandSonConversation]

Don’t let what Logan said about you years ago become reality, keep pushing. The reason people are successful is persistence, push through hard times and failure and you will win. Even though Logan is a piece of crap he kept pushing through the hard times… ps even though most people hate him he still kills it because he keeps pushing Do the same Mark, I’ve always liked you more than George and Logan. You’re clearly more well rounded than the two, they both have strengths but I think your personality is hilarious, you are socially intelligent, and you are highly intelligent. I enjoy your videos and would love to see you more. Been a fan since day one!

[@mommycontent]

Sobriety is awesome

[@LivinLargePodcast]

hope you guys enjoyed the Two-Men Show vibes!! gonna be posting interviews on Monday's and more of these podcasts on Thursdays!!

[@tejassurve7975]

why the same thumbnail as George's... what's the idea behind that?😅...(not hating just curious) Love your stuff.😊

[@michael-4k4000]

love 2 men together, 3 men together is even better.....

[@enns5366]

Just to let you know as a woman and someone who has been clean for many years. That woman was the A**Hope not you. It is not cool to push you to do something your trying not to do. And regardless of that aspect you gave her a heads up many hours ahead she just chose to ignore you and your feelings. Period! Run don't walk from that person

[@AlohaAlina]

It’s so refreshing to see 1. how self-aware you are 2. how you take accountability 3. how empathetic you are to others points of views

[@adarshsawaiyan]

You and George should make a podcast talk about each other how you two have grown ... you both are good guys ...it's bad to see two good guys to not be friends anymore .... i hope you to connect again ❤

[@onedaysocial]

Mark, good episode… and for the O.G. subs, I think we all appreciated hearing your side. It would be AMAZING to get George in an episode, and Logan in another. Maybe the BBF ship has sailed, but it would be nice to see you guys talk on camera.

[@juanandresbayardo6399]

I resinate a lot with you Mark, covid also messed me a lot big time, I relied a lot in other people rather than rely on me to seek my own happiness. But also, I think that we as men, need to be more connected to our feelings so we understand the why do we feel some type of way sometimes, if you cry, feel anger, disgust or any emotion, it does not make you more or less of a man, It´s just how humans are wired bro, and i think that being a man is jump on this process of acknowledging our feelings, feeling them, and move forward. Sending you lot of love Mark, keep it up, you are doing great!

[@LivinLargePodcast]

Yep!! I’m definitely in touch with my emotions moreso now than ever, but playing victim for too long will get you no where. Gotta wake up one day and say enough is enough and change your ways.

[@juanandresbayardo6399]

@@LivinLargePodcast absolutely, no one is responsible of your own happiness, only yourself

[@karamnarch]

The fact that this guy never gives up inspire me.

[@LivinLargePodcast]

IM NOT FUCKIN LEAVIN!!

[@silberstudio]

Same here !

[@Lindsaylee_xo]

You’re NOT the ass hole. You explained exactly why you didn’t go out. You’re working on yourself & didn’t want to go out - that’s fine. She shouldn’t have pushed it at all. & good job! Sobriety/working on yourself is hard. But you got this! 💗

[@Maceobrown355]

Just subscribed I might live under a rock but never heard of yall and this shit had me hooked. Good job man gonna be playing your podcast while I’m at work or deiving

[@josefel-amin474]

Mark should consider streaming so that his OG fans can start seeing more of him

[@LivinLargePodcast]

Have thought about streaming COD… might get cancelled tho for saying some dumb shit 😂😂

[@KalvinPatel]

not on Kick, you good on there if you fire up lmao@@LivinLargePodcast

[@josefel-amin474]

🤣

[@topspot4834]

@@LivinLargePodcastI get it, and I get you're kinda joking, but to be serious for a moment, I can't imagine living your life worrying about cancellation. I think that's the biggest concern for any creator, and it can't be healthy for their mental health. I look at a guy like Charles Barkley though, who literally can't be cancelled. He's 100% honest though, and at the end of the day, people respect him for his opinions cause they know he's real. You might not like what he says, and the initial reaction might turn some people off, but whether you like it or not, you know it's the truth, and if he's saying it, that means a bunch of people are thinking it. You'll never be able to please everyone, but as long as you're genuine, honest and transparent, you'll never be cancelled.

[@jacobdavis6484]

This new guy seems very genuine. I think he’s a great addition to the pod.

[@laurenzdeganos9875]

I’m glad l watched this chillin in bed. Iggy is such a good co-host. I totally related to you Mark with what happened with George. I was so excited with an old friend who oddly enough was my neighbor. We connected like brothers. I would be so down for chilling but after like 5 times throughout the years I would get shunned and then gaslighted and I decided i’m not respecting his space while at the same time i’m not get appreciated for my efforts. I learned that people come and go. They are here for a reason, a season, or a lifetime. I’m glad to have those in my lifetime and those for the reason and season. I’m glad to see you as Mark again. I can feel the genuine energy!

[@isabellachishi]

My God I must have been living under a rock. I didn't know about this fallout. I'm glad that you're doing well now. I wish you good luck and success. Remembering you in my prayers.

[@ezelldaniels6064]

Keep up the good work brotha ❤ Loving your growth my guy. Stay strong! 🙏🏼

[@richinISLAM22]

Man I feeling marks feelings it’s like his speaking for me with everything his going through We all suffering and just need that friend to pick up us and say it’s not to late cheer up

[@gabskings9663]

Hi Mark! I been your follower ever since the beginning of your career. I love your videos

[@jessiekelley404]

Aww I loved just listening to you talk! Your channel was one of my favorites! So glad you’re back!

[@sardave]

Time heals… Both you and George are in a new place in life. I hope he invites you on his show and you bury the past. Logan though hasn’t grown up and may never…

[@angelaquino6755]

Yo, I’ve been a subscriber for the longest, and I notice how you all (Logan, George and you Mark) always talk about each other but you don’t mention Johannes at all, he was a part of “the boys” too wasn’t he? Was it that he wasn’t as close as you guys, or did something happen there? Might be a nice thing to talk about in the next one

[@jad3636]

I still haven’t found out? wtf happened

[@mommaberti8124]

I think it's great that you stood up for yourself. Maybe she will see this and understand how important it was for you not to go and will call and apologize. You weren't the a$$hole, she was.

[@iamtonycote]

Used to listen to your old podcast, glad you started podcasting again! Always enjoyed your content bro!!

[@LivinLargePodcast]

thanks man! we gonna get it popping again! appreciate the comment to boost that engagement!! haha

[@austindrake69]

Very cool to see Mark is doing great and is now doing a podcast! Had always thought Mark was a really cool person and always had great content.

[@CryptoBenjiii]

Dam it’s been a while dogg , I’m glad this video popped up in my algorithm. Subscribed fasho 😁

[@iggysnipez]

Gotta watch Extraction 1 and 2 bro!!! Soooo awesome to get all your content, awesome job. Keep it up!!!

[@Orionbae]

I remember seeing Mark when I was a kid on Logan’s vlogs. There were multiple times where I felt bad for Mark since I felt Logan would purposely belittle him.

[@RealLifeWithMichelleRob]

Mark. Ive been watching you since the start. This just felt off. Maybe its because you put george and logan in the thumbnail and title. Be YOU without bringing in the big names.

[@Mikekire3831]

God damn that text tho from Logan 😬😬😬😬

[@LivinLargePodcast]

That shit hurt man. But I’m thankful for it, because it gave me fire to prove him wrong. Without that text, I would have never made the adjustments needed to better my life and push forward. Blessing in disguise & very grateful for the opportunity he gave me 🙏🏼

[@top10shorts21]

just a suggestion , you can add sections

[@LivinLargePodcast]

Will do that now!

[@ruqaiahkamal7574]

Hello Mark, To be honest it’s been a while since I’ve seen your content. And I agree with you needing a rebrand one thing I would say is show us you cinematic content do more of that. That’s where you shine. You are in a path of self discovery and one thing is to feel good while doing your work. I want to see you in the field of film making to be honest you got skills show them. I don’t remember if you did anything like that before but just an observation of before COVID content. And you don’t rely on friends in your video it has to be you.

[@Nabil_Betrouni]

I just want to say that all the positive comments in this video about Mark are inspiring.

[@ZachAsaD]

All bot and NPC comments, all the other comments are clearly deleted

[@msmariapaula23]

That was a nice message you sent her Mark! Also, people need to start respecting boundaries. A no is a no, period. NTA 👏👏

[@hellonwheels379]

Good to see you, Mark. I might be your oldest follower. Since the Vine St. days at almost 60 years old. #Melmay5

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Logan burns bridges faster than a arsonists

[@itsjaviertobar]

You should call people or have people email you and ask you guy’s questions or anything they need help with. Just an Idea 🔥 great episode btw!

[@LivinLargePodcast]

Great idea! Used to do this with voice memos back in the day

[@tanmaysalunke3775]

Ref: 1:01:13 I think you can reduce the intake slowly, day by day, week by week. Hope it works out!

[@allangamez94]

this guest is a yes man, holy cow

[@Jackal]

2 years before you became Logan's camera op I asked him to do YT while we were both Freshman and he said it wasn't profitable at that time for him.

[@Jack82330]

Do you blame him ? , look at your channel

[@Kenanhower]

And? He's allowed to say no

[@Jdjdjdndkekjdjdj]

Mark I support you I’m subscribed but you are becoming Logan, you want to be the best version of yourself.. Logan taught you this yet you continue speaking on his name, keep your head down and push your own self worth. You’re more than worthy for yourself you got this brother, much love

[@miralabualjadail4206]

The Girl is 10000 percent in the wrong! He dodged a massive toxic bullet. Good for him for standing his ground staying healthy looking after himself and not caving and be manipulated like many others have 👏👏👏👏👏

[@jayohanian]

27:37 HIS EYE ROLL GOT ME 💀😂

[@piMpuLse-]

Love the Pod mayne !!!

[@davidlakhter]

great podcast!

[@StacyNeuhaus-m6v]

Dose anyone else just love his voice

[@adamrothenberg6506]

Being alone is not scary it just shows you always needs someone to hold your hand

[@senbonzakurakageyoshi6031]

Mark is one of the most respectful men I’ve ever heard and have seen in this lifetime. I wish he will write a book I definitely would buy it, because of the wisdom, honesty, and integrity in everything he does in A public’s point of view such a rare thing to see especially in todays culture. Keep going man.

[@ismailahmed8232]

Love the podcast mark.been a OG fan of the bois r back in town.😂❤❤

[@notralph2734]

We are all with u and love u mark !

[@Mallymich]

As a person who has been a member of the Dohnation 😅since the beginning as well as a fan of Logan, George, that whole crew, it’s so disheartening to hear what happened so many years ago. I have gathered Logan is cut throat, you’re either in or out. I’m glad things with George have patched over and I hope that relationship continues to heal and grow. I feel like other women and men may disagree, that’s fine, personally I appreciate a person who is in touch with their emotions. It’s such a turn off for me to hear you call yourself a “bitch” and that you “got soft”. Understanding you need to check yourself and stand up for yourself is different than allowing yourself to be in touch with your emotions and allowing your partner see it. Just my thoughts.

[@weteam17]

Watching from since the sunset though 😂

[@Sainsahoo]

I started watching you from that very bahamas vlog and havnt missed a single one, still want you to just travel bro every one, even you will need and enjoy travelling the whole world alone no worries. Just awsome vlogs and sunsets!

[@Alex.C.747-8]

As a 39 year old woman, I am going to say you are not the Arsehole. She is. She had plenty of notice, she isn’t a good friend in supporting you and your sobriety. As you get older your friends circle gets so much smaller. Because you start to not give a 💩 about what others think, you value yourself more and what you think.

[@Bowlos0428]

I like how you were calling yourself out and admitting you did something wrong or potentially did and not just saying you don’t know why all this is happening blah blah blah, But the other guy bro. Felt like he was there to reassure you , you did nothing wrong , you need friends that tell you straight out and see where you could of done better even if you had something to do with , but get rid of these hype men .

[@jmanndabeast]

I recommend listening to Darren Hardy, he's good to listen to as well for motivation. Also, I think that as much as your last relationship had you being more about emotions and feelings, it has you learning what it often can be like to effectively communicate issues and feelings with your partner. It's one thing when it is constant where you're not at your normal self, but if there's a fine balance, as you are growing a relationship with someone, it becomes important to be able to express your feelings and have a sessions of vulnerability when necessary. It's all part of our personal growth to be able to express our feelings, handle conflict resolution and to be able to create a strong foundation based on similar values among other things. Most important you end up becoming an expert in effective communication with the balance of vulnerability when you have needs as well and are feeling too. Keep crushing it g!!

[@YOUmommaHAX]

Hey Mark those are rookie numbers 😅 3 months without talking to your best friend? Me and one of my best friends of over 10 years had a falling out that he caused and I didn't talk to him for over two years! We only started talking again because one of our mutual friends died in a tragic construction work accident and he was the first one to break the news to me and we hashed it out. Even though he was in the wrong he never reached out to me to apologize during those two years. It took the death of our beloved friend for him to talk to me again.

[@bobtrillion2096]

To be honestly, I don't think you were in the wrong in anyway way for changing your mind and not wanting to go out anymore, but I think leaving her on read is what aggravated her. Like kinda what Iggy said, it was an ego bruise, but because she probably overthought it, and leaving her on read gave her a chance to fill in the blanks of what she thought you really meant when not giving her a response. Like if you responded again she wouldn't have a reason to be mad, just annoyed cus the night she planned out didn't go as expected, but she'd have less of a reason to hold it against you (the type of guy that you are that she cultivated in her head for 7hrs). Also, this is me just saying what I think, it's not gonna be 100% accurate or anything because I don't know actually know you or her, so feel free to ignore if I'm way off lol. But ye, continue doing you, man, you sound like you're in a good spot which is great to hear! Also, great podcast^^

[@LivinLargePodcast]

Yea I agree

[@AMRYCOP]

I miss “DAT SUNSET” vibes

[@leahkopp449]

People who date after a break up,they can’t stand the thought of being alone and facing the truth of what they are. They can’t deal with the shit that happened they have to find a person to fill the void of themselves. The loyal ones stay single til they can be okay with themselves

[@riteshsingh435]

Just saw this randomly. Have to follow again. Drop some COD clips on your main channel, I remember you were really good once.

[@LivinLargePodcast]

I’m still nice with it!! I wanna start streaming haha

[@riteshsingh435]

@@LivinLargePodcast Just do it. Much love

[@onthewall425]

Hey Mark, the amount of ZYN you're taking daily, estimated to equal 2 -3 full packets of cigarettes (20 packs) worth of Nicotine per day. Glad to see you're back. Take care.

[@LivinLargePodcast]

shut the freak up........................ there's no way. omg. I need to stop. that's gross.

[@miralabualjadail4206]

Props on Mark for acknowledging that he was the dick in the George situation and his friend should have recognized that instantly. I used to have a friend who showed up to my house unannounced and that shitt was beyoooond annoying and sometimes unacceptable. George is actually too nice to even apologize

[@Ban00]

Mark you're a nice guy but nothing wrong with that except nice guys finish last. I'm glad you recognized this pattern and now standing your ground. Rooting for you. Cheers

[@LivinLargePodcast]

I know man, setting boundaries now and not taking any shit. I’ve lost so much, I got nothing else to lose now!! WE FIGHT!

[@razekbarrimo7782]

Why don’t you just ask George and Logan on the podcast and just confront each other…

[@LivinLargePodcast]

Relationship has run its course

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

That sounds like a step backward rather than forward

[@amerhst1201]

@@LivinLargePodcast George is a good dude, you are too. There might be something there.

[@razekbarrimo7782]

@@amerhst1201 I agree, and two episodes before Mark mentioned the problem and he said he didn’t want to go into details and talk about it and now he does. So it’s clearly still bothering him…

[@sophiadaly4712]

I loved this podcast: Note to editor or to the guys, maybe mitigate for mouth noises and grunts. It’s not pleasant for people with misophonia

[@thenobosslife7098]

5min in to this pod. I get your reasoning for canceling going out with that girl….but why didn’t you at least suggest another activity where y’all could’ve hung out? I feel like it wouldn’t have been as bad to her if you tried to give other options to hang out instead of just saying no…after you had said yes in the 1st place.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Covid also killed my happiness. Luckily I was already a gamer, I have too much health issues to be an alcoholic, I slowed down on games and became more productive I started doing podcast, uploading on youtube(my vids sucked but i was happy) applied to nursing school and started the medical assistant program and slowly year by year i just became more depressed at least I'm now in the nursing program

[@apindakut]

To be fair when you have friends who mock you for your faith, I would cut them off too. George is doing so much better right now and you can see he’s genuinely happy from all the fake friends and toxic masculinity people compete off of. You should just go on Georges podcast and air out the issues

[@Crystalxclear1]

Mark just shows how little he has grown. I haven’t watched his channel in years because i was sick of the switch up, the fake vlog voice and the obsessive content of whichever girl he happens to have brainwashed at the time with his immature ego. As always (like Kylie said) all he did was film his relationship and you can see how fake it all is. I’ll never forget when Kylie said that she had moved on way before the break up because she knew it was over but mark didn’t because he was too busy filming it. He still doesn’t know how to do his own thing since he hangs off of Logan and George. We all know for a fact that he’s PRAYING that George responds to this podcast to help put Mark on some map. I wish him well but i think he needs to go home and centre himself. This life isn’t for him. He seriously has not grown one bit

[@LivinLargePodcast]

Appreciate your perspective & im willing to take the heat. But, you don’t have the slightest clue of what goes on behind the scenes.

[@adamrothenberg6506]

When you get to a point of friendship and age that you have your own life people don’t want to hang out they want their relationship

[@thedanwriter1]

These LA people throw around the word “best friend” loosely. This is why they say people are fake in LA/hollywood

[@gi4dtv230]

The asshole thing, was because you're the one paying for the drinks.

[@dakotahwells1741]

I use to be a fan of mark but he keeps getting in cycles of losing friendships and relationships and I think he needs a lot of inner growth to do

[@IDH1198]

Anyone know what happened with Adelia?

[@LivinLargePodcast]

Shittttt maybe I’ll explain in next pod hahahah

[@Hadrian77]

@@LivinLargePodcastwe need this!

[@kienynramsay4820]

Love to hear what happened. Keep up the good work mate

[@ryanpuff]

25:30 idk I disagree, Ive watched them all and became very interested from the beginning of your cinematic style videos actually inspired me to learn more about video and then found peter McKinnon among others you paved the way. You do a great job at storytelling, Like the music video for does your mama know. Even just showing the community your friends. "Scripted" or not it still gave a sense of closeness and friendship that people want. It was cool seeing you make videos with your partners but that's not what I feel like people want or expect. They are just an extra or character that helps dialogue. I'm sure there's a a solid group of people that goes back and watch your old videos just because it was this guy that was making videos he enjoyed. But also at the same time crazy cause it was daily😆

[@RitchieRosson]

Why couldn't you offer to go for dinner instead or see a movie or go to the bar and just have a soft drink.

[@Cat45078]

For real. He just blew off the girl and used the alcohol as an excuse to justify blowing her off

[@TheDailyDose404]

Some people are only in our lives for a short time to teach us lessons we need to learn and that’s ok.

[@Alex_Justified]

12:52 same thing happened to me. I cried to my gf one time cause I was in a deep emotional state, literally 5 days later a break up. There is a strange concept to this. The way I look at it is biologically women think your weak, but the problem is, women are listening to their lizard brain. God cares when you cry. So in females terms, it makes you weak but in God/life terms it shows vulnerability and strength.

[@Hadrian77]

most dudes don't understand this. that's why you should never pay attention to what women say but what they do

[@danielaanderson-fernandez806]

​@Hadrian77 it's a societal norm in a patriarchal society. If your woman thinks you're weak for being emotional, she's got her own trauma to deal with.

[@RemingtonTerritory]

Someone’s hoping to get George on the podcast

[@jacknicholson5776]

why dont you both do a pod cast with each other and make a part one and two between each channel

[@carsonpedersen9890]

I feel like reaching out to George and just asking to hangout and just talk I think y’all could be good friends man, George has a ton of positive energy, it won’t hurt you to reach out!

[@725niko]

You can choose to partake in hanging out without drinking. You can also choose to not go and cancel the entire scenario all together. Wise man here chose the latter

[@Jboxing1]

It’s crazy how mark drifted with Logan and George. I remember the days when they was still homies. Now Mike is Logan main friend which is crazy cuz I remember the days when nobody gave a fuck about Mike until IMPAULSIVE started.

[@Mike-hh9vl]

Tough love for tough situations

[@awesomeadamfrom2099]

Awesome podcast mark drop a like

[@砂川朝恭-l2d]

Wow, is he back…?!!❤

[@xygenzy]

This guy has an ego too big for his worth…puts himself on a pedastal….acts like the world revolves around him, like he deserves respect just for being him…like he wonders why his own face doesn’t get decent views when he’s just an average looking guy w a long neck and a boring personality…a dork dressed in designer lol…seems like he’s playing the part of being confident, positive and motivated….but to me he gives off the energy who is just jealous of everyone around him who is doing better. Doesn’t really seem like he brings a lot to the relationships in his life other than self righteous, self serving , self victimizing bullshit….taking accountability now changes none of that….being aware you are like that doesn’t mean you’re not still like that. Humble yourself, maybe drop the hype man too . Just seems like he’s justifying all your bullshit until you call yourself out and then he changes tune if he senses you’re not vibin w his first thought. Weird

[@adamrothenberg6506]

Self control is cool being sober nice but have an right mind drinking don’t hurt you moderation is key

[@Crazycajun985]

Because La is a crappy place for that! No true people! Good place for content but sucks for relationships

[@LivinLargePodcast]

Big facts! Definitely gonna get out of here when my lease is up hahaha

[@jeffstone2148]

If anything, logan is really good at burning bridges 😂😂😂

[@_adamrodrigo_]

Mark! Please make more golf content

[@juditadido8411]

great podcast, just remembered what my mom once said to me when I was complaining a lot :) she said if you feel that everyone around you are idiots probably its you that idiot :D

[@meko5764]

In more positive way to think about why you get more views when you in a relationship. Cause we all wanna see you happy of course. TBH we can see the difference btw you and your bestie. For me, that’s why I still watch your channel and not them.

[@megdevries5616]

and also again talking crap about Logan after all he did for you man just stop

[@robervin9107]

Stay close to Brendan north and David shaban and everything will be incredible. They will help you.

[@Spiritoproduction]

hey bro i have always been for you but keep ur head up and seek God he will work on ur heart and change u from the inside out :)

[@notthatseriouslol1048]

Look maybe Logan did you wrong but the fact that you keep tagging him and bringing him up to stay relevant… cringe

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Congrats to your Ex on becoming a mother. I find it weird that someone asked you that tbh

[@suddentricks3080]

Mark, Logan and George NEEEDS to get back together and stop bitching to eachother, especially Logan with his huge EGO....

[@losblancos3962]

feels like i've lost just as much love and respect for logan as i use to have for him over the years after finding out what a shitty friend/person he is.

[@samemon8143]

George on his recent podcast with Mike Geoge: Maybe we (logan and him) never meant to be friends Mike answered politely but he has George never would have successful podcast if he wasn't part of Impaulsive. Without George Logan would have been same just one less controversy (George & Logan beef) on his book. He got boast and hype bcz of their fallen out. for me it's same as Zayn leaving 1D and got career boast. I been following George for since 2018 through Logan. He tried bunch of different things. Daily vlogging, singing, comedy also he tried podcasting with another Logan Paul early day hoomie Mark Dohner. Non of em worked. He shifted content styles every few months. But since impaulsive his vlogs got decent views. Also so keep note his title and thumbnails filed with Logan's face name. After Bobby Lee controversy he received lot of backlash and also Logan was pissed he made his mistake when he attack George for his religious belief. And George received public support and people all over internet was pissed at Logan for crypto zoo controversy. George took the bait and started his own podcast. I saw celcius at his podcast and immediately knew his at war and he ain't coming back since Logan prime freak. His first few eps were hit and miss. But since Andrew Tate ep his podcast skyrocketed and i felt genuinely happy. Also he didn't wanna talk about Impaulsive issue (maybe bcz of NDA) also felt matured and GOOD Personality. But him suddenly attacking Logan felt to me hypocrite. Internet hate Logan Paul and i get it why but attacking him illogically feels awful to me. Cause every Logan negative news create buzz and George exposing him is talk of the town. But Logan's response gave with proofs didn't receive much buzz bcz KZbinrs know Logan paul positive news has no buzz and him being a villain gets em money (views). Also logan missed out some points like Bobby lee assaulting George i think it's Bobby Lee's job to response such allegations or explain himself. So at last all i'm saying whatever George today is has bit of Logan Paul's contribution. He could have buried that but he now have to make his podcast relevant and these topics are spicy. he's same as Logan now cause he could have avoided all these controversies just edit those clips out but he knew George walking out or him attacking George for his religious beliefs would get him views and George also mentioned it before and now his same as him.

[@aforwit9638]

you're one of the veeeeerry few who get it. george is being such a snake rn. say whatever you want about logan - he's always been a good friend. george used the cryptozoo controversy (which he clarified later was not logan's fault) to build a positive rep for himself. so many people have been manipulating the narrative to fit theirs since cryptozoo. i really hope logan gives a full breakdown of it after the lawsuit is over. i still believe logan was innocent in that.