Lixada "Scout" Wood Gas stove VS Lixada "Tower" stove - REMATCH

[@arithia5874]

I purchased the tower stove after watching your reviews. I love it! I can throw just about anything in it and it starts right up. Great emergency stove as well. We live in Minnesota, we snowmobile. This will work great for a hot tea break and hot lunch on the trail. At 20 below F a hot anything in the inner core feels wondeful. Your videos are great, keep them coming! Be prepared!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I am glad you are enjoying the stove. It is one of my go-to stoves when I am not testing something else out. Thanks for commenting

[@boooooyaka]

the most anticipated rematch of 2019

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

LOL..if only. Thanks for commenting

[@Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival]

Very interesting results and thanks for sharing them with the rest of us. Thumbs up . . . of course. My thoughts for why using the pot stand cross bars with the tower stove was not to increase exhaust flow because as you pointed out, there is plenty of exhaust flow capabilities built in even without the extra cross bar pot stand. My reasoning for why using the cross bar pot stand with a larger diameter pot is so that the actual flames have access to the bottom of the pot. The flames are allowed to touch the pot bottom and flow along the bottom of the pot until they dissipate or go beyond the pot bottom. That is contrasted otherwise by the flames not having actual access to the bottom of the pot without the pot stand but rather be forced out the exhaust openings lower than the pot bottom. The pot will still be heated quite well but I believe that some performance may be lost. How much performance loss there may be, if any, is not known. But I cannot help but suspect that there will be some loss of thermal performance if not using the pot stand when using larger pots. When using smaller diameter cooking vessels that are smaller than the stove top opening, the point is mute.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Ahh, now I understand what you meant when you mentioned that last time. Hmm...I will give it some thought. Would be hard to measure performance but what you say makes sense. Thanks Lonnie

[@MegaWoodswalker]

I also got around 4-5 minutes with the "Scout stove" and the wider "tower stove". The only time I noticed what appeared to be wood gas and/or a secondary combustion was if the wood was below the jets however it must be happening (IMO) even if the wood is past the jets. I think it's a combo type stove with the majority being normal combustion however not all. On a side note people can be too uptight about the operation of wood gas stoves and timed testing. Most stoves can be burned more than just one way. I like to use a larger solo stove as a scout fire at times. Burns for hours because wood can be added. It will keep burning and very often nicely. Good rematch!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thank you my friend. I agree, gassification is a nice benefit if it occurs but it is not the only factor that makes a good stove. The "Tower" stove has a lot going for it and if it gassifies, bonus.

[@viewsandreviews180]

Thank you for posting this comparison again. My experience with them is similar to what you found the first time and usually I use found twigs. The deciding factor on which to use has often come to weight of the cooking kit. If I'm going for a short walk (day hike) it's a toss up and I take the one closest when I'm loading up. As an aside, I’ve also had the same experience with the pot support on the tower stove however there’s a difference in the one my tower stove come with and the one you have, mine has four pieces which was a pain to assemble and should always be put on before lighting the fire. Thus I made a two piece for my own safety and it can be added anytime.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Interesting you had similar results. I did notice that the larger version of the Tower stove had a four-piece pot stand. Maybe they sent you the wrong pot stand with your stove. Thanks for commenting

[@JoeBoutilier]

Mark! Because of your video, I just got the Lixada Tower from Amazon to use with wood pellets! Thank you for the idea!!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I find that a screen may be necessary to keep the pellets from dropping through. Let me know how it works out for you.

[@JoeBoutilier]

Mark Young I lucked out. The holes are small enough that the pellets don’t fall through. :-) quite happy as I didn’t know what I’d do for screen! Love to get out and use it. But -16°C today. A little chilly. Haha

[@vvogt4252]

Awesome Side by Side comparison Brother! I've been wanting to purchase one of these Stoves. You've convinced me that they are Great choices. Thanks for all the good work You've been doing in your videos. Have a Great Day!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Both stoves are good values. My hope was to provide a bit of information to help people decide which one they want. Thanks for commenting

[@odelloutdoors3424]

Great comparison. I personally liked the results from the Scout. The flame looked more manageable. Thanks for what you do.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

The Scout does appear to provide a more steady flame as opposed to the Tower. One factor I did not test was stacking the wood horizontally but what a pain it would have been to cut pieces that short. Thanks for commenting

[@scottmurphy4946]

you need more subs I managed to find this channel after too many hours surfing camping/prepper stuff

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you are enjoying my videos. More subs would be welcome. Thanks for commenting

[@tonyperone3242]

I bought the tower stove and imo it works well and will work even better once I get the hang of how to operate it. My method of fueling was too conservative and like you pointed out fill them up with fuel. Enjoyed and thanks.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I am liking my twoer stove as well. Especially considering the price. Thanks for commenting

[@Gokberk_Altug]

Thanx for the video. As a backpacker, Tower stove (btw good name for a stove:) easily wins for me because of its weight. Without extra cost, its only half weight of Scout stove.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you enjoyed the video. I find that I carry this stove more than most of other stoves because of its size and weight as well as performance. Thanks for commenting

[@Badger77722]

Nice job in comparing the two stoves! I really appreciate the effort you've gone through to eliminate as many variables as possible, so the designs of the stoves can be assessed on their own merits. I'll be sticking with my small Lixada folding stove for now, but it's nice to know that both of these will do the job, if in slightly different ways.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

The little Lixada is a great stove. May not have the output the bigger ones do but output is not everything. Thanks for commenting

[@string-bag]

Very nice comparison. Thanks Mark.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you liked the video. Thanks for commenting

[@JohnTarbox]

Another great video! I believe the takeaway is that one can't be a proper bushcrafter if one only has one stove. ;-)

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Bushcrafters are people too😅

[@seasonstudios]

Nice update Mark. It seems to me that the Scout stove (and all of its clones out there on the market) appear to be one of the very best all round stoves you could possess. The seem to burn so very well.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I do like the wood gas stove a lot but my personal favourite it the Firebox in titanium. It is the most versatile of all the stoves I own. Thanks for commenting

[@terryw.milburn8565]

Always enjoy these tests, Mark ! Well Performing Stoves they are Maxed Out Thanks Friend ! ATB T God Bless

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thank Terry

[@mike_outdoors4918]

An interesting revisit, thanks again Mark👍🙂

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for commenting

[@jacqueline7118]

Another great comparison Mark, always interesting and gets my brain to thinking! Thanks for sharing!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Anything that provokes thought is of value to me..especially as I age 😂. Thanks for commenting Jackie

[@robertgullickson8758]

Thank you for the comparison. Mass of metal means extra weight I suppose. But I would use either one. They perform well with hardwoods.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you found the video helpful. Yes, extra mass does mean extra weight. I guess the question is whether you are okay with the extra weight in exchange for the extra performance. Thanks for commenting

[@cencalgrizz]

The incomplete pyrolysis may be due to "vertical channeling", which occurs when fuel is loaded vertically in TLUD stoves. The gaps between the sticks allow excess primary air into the pyrolysis zone, which ignites some of the woodgas before it reaches the secondary inlets.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I totally agree. An issue of too much air flow. I would test laying the wood horizontally but I did not want to have to cut the pieces that short😅. Thanks for commenting

[@UrbanGrrl69]

I should maybe buy a windshield for my Lixada tower it does seem to increase burn time. Great review again thanks Mark.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Windshields help with all stoves in my opinion. Thanks for commenting

[@v73z17]

I just found out that the kelly kettle trecker will fit perfectly on top of the lixada scout stove if you remove the pot support. A strange setup I know, but if you, for some reason, have both then you boil water with pellets super fast and efficient.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yes, I have been planning a follow up to my Kelly Kettle Trekker video showing that very thing. Thanks for commenting

[@v73z17]

Great to hear that, looking forward!

[@patriciaribaric3409]

Using equal weight of fuel made this a fair experiment that proved beneficial in boil time. Isn't the cross bars mostly included for use with spirit burners, or is that extra height not necessary?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I agree it was a more fair test all around. As far as I can tell from my tests the cross stand does not help with anything other than very small diameter pots. Even when using alcohol. Thanks for commenting

[@georgerector9252]

I liked the original test. If the stove is going to be carried with a certain pot then that is what it should tested with.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

No argument from me. Of course, not everyone would have the same stove/pot combo. Thanks for commenting

[@connosaurus]

Good stuff Mark!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thank you kindly

[@AtomicBleach]

Just curious... Have you tried using only the bottom 2 pieces of the tower stove, with the crossbars *or maybe your homemade ruler cross stand) on top to give air? The idea kind of hit me while playing with my toaks small wood stove. Im waiting on the toaks crossbars to show up before I can test. I dont happen to have any steel rulers laying around that I can destroy.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yes, it may work. The included cross bars may be enough to provide sufficient airflow. I will give it a try. Thanks for commenting

[@jamesfishfish9099]

Mark I wonder if you took the Lixada Tower stove into the burner into it and Try it that away more less put the burner in the top half up side down

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Interesting idea. Thanks Jim

[@sirdee9607]

Great Video, my Friend I like Comparisons

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

As always, thanks for commenting

[@barriewatson]

A good comparison Mark, l have not had so much luck with my Lixada wood gas stove with pellets first it does gasifi and l can see this when burning but as soon as l try to put a pot on the stove gasification stops and it starts to smoke , l was thinking maybe it is the pellets l am using but l really don't know.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Barry, what type of pot stand does your Scout have? My feeling is the version with the three small folding stand-offs may not have sufficient exhaust room under a pot. This would cause the stove to smoke. Thanks for commenting

[@barriewatson]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft yes it is with the foldout stands can you suggest a remedy, Regards Barrie

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

@@barriewatson Maybe. Do you happen to have a Kelly Kettle Trekker Hobo Stove? Reason for asking is fits perfectly on top of my Lixada Scout stove. If not It may be worth looking at buying one from KK. My second suggestion would be a DIY cross bar made from a stainless steel ruler, similar to what I do for the Ikea hobo stoves. Let me know what you decide

[@barriewatson]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft thanks for your answer yes l have a Kelly Kettle and the hobo stove ,but it's the mittle size Kelly Kettle and this is too big. Regards Barrie

[@barriewatson]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft ok l have now ordered a Kelly Kettle hobo for the tracker hope it will work take a little to get here from Kelly Kettle l will let you know if it fits when it gets here. Regards Barrie

[@ChrisLowResDream]

big thanks

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Most welcome. Thanks for commenting

[@valpatterson69]

I like how u call tower 👌

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thanks

[@thomasnugent7602]

Very good, Thank you very much

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you liked the video. Thanks for commenting

[@NorthernMIPathfinder]

I like your videos and they are very informative!! HOWEVER, you do the same thing as everyone else when comparing and timing... You did not put BOTH of the pots on at the same time and you did not start the timer at the second you put them both on. Now yes, we are talking mere seconds & it is not an exact science!! But it is a solid 5 seconds before you start the clock and three seconds between putting the first pot on and the second. Just my OCD kicking in when people do "comparisons"

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Very observant and good point. Thanks for commenting

[@highlandtrekker]

Nice comparison Mark ! Is the GSI Kettle aluminium ?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thanks Wayne. This is the stainless steel GSI Kettleist. I do have an anodized aluminum one but it is not GSI.

[@rhettoracle9679]

Variable. Very Able!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thanks for commenting

[@ImACarbonCopy]

I have a scout style stove and it works well. I almost bought the tower stove, But went with scout style. because of the testing you have done. So thanks very much for that. I think the scout is more stable too I think the tower stove would be better for a companion fire This is a great test of the stoves. Another great video keep up the good work!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Great logic. I have no doubt your will be happy with the Scout style stove. Thanks for commenting

[@connosaurus]

Another attribute of the scout is that you can run it on wood pellets right out of the box. I'm still testing to find the best way to use them in the tower stove.

[@ImACarbonCopy]

@@connosaurus That sounds good I have 130lbs of pellets to use

[@patriceb26]

Bonjour So which one is the best ?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I carry the Tower stove more often than the wood gas stove mostly because of its smaller size and weight. Thanks for commenting

[@etoyocthebackwardscoyote3572]

I have placed my order for a tower stove. However, I was just wondering, what is the inside diameter when everything is packed down? What can nest inside the stove? I doubt it will, but can a Stanley adventure nest inside?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Hi, the inside of the smallest chamber measures 3 3/8" x 3 3/8". The Stanley won't go inside for sure. An alcohol stove like the Trangia will. Hope this helps

[@etoyocthebackwardscoyote3572]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanks for the info. I might just try getting something like this to nest inside then: bit.ly/2ZcIMnu

[@whizzkidd4]

I boughtva tower stove bec of ur review mark

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for commenting

[@safffff1000]

Nice test but in real life I don't want to prepare the wood like that on the trail. I would like to see a test with just broken twigs and such. Want to get it done easily

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Of course. I have videos using the stoves in the woods as they are intended to be. This was just a way of controlling variables. I certainly don't do this in the woods. Thanks for commenting

[@safffff1000]

Thank you

[@steveneugene339]

Ok, we have seen the testing ,can we now see the cooking .

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

You are absolutely right. I really need to start doing some cooking in the woods. Thank you for the prompt

[@steveneugene339]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Awesome ,looking forward to them.

[@benutzer_definiert]

please adopt me, I love stoves and want to leave my clountry ... please...

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Hope you like snow. 35cm has fallen so far today.

[@jamesfishfish9099]

Mark can you give me your email so I Can send you a small video

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

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