Xperia 5 IV vs Zenfone 9 - Sony vs GCam - Asus strikes back!?

[@iLik3mu5ic]

I think the GCam Mod on the Zenfone 9 is an amazing improvement in terms of colour reproduction and fixing the awful oversharpening of the native camera app (especially noticeable at 6:10). I'm really interested in the Zenfone 9 because of the small form factor but I also value the camera very highly. The GCam Mod might be the one thing "sealing the deal" for me.

[@mortinocano169]

I'm amazed by the professionalism in these videos. Keep up the good work! :)

[@soy_titooo]

Thanks a lot. I was tempted to ask for this but I didn't wanted to be too demanding, so good to see that you thought it would be useful to make this video 😊

[@Bowie.]

Thx for covering the 5 iv. I'll be getting one. Cameras on both look capable (as with most phones today). The 5 just seems better suited toward my work.

[@gazzabazzazza]

I've been watching your zenfone 9 reviews with great interest. Really useful for those considering the Asus phone. I've now subscribed because your content is pretty good. I'm desperate to replace my Samsung S8 and thought the zenfone 9 would be the answer. Unfortunately its shortcomings (camera issues, lack of telephoto, reportedly slow software improvements, limited software upgrades and overheating) have really put me off. Are my concerns fair? I think i heard or read that in RAW mode the Zen 9 produces excellent images, which proves it's just software which is letting it down. However, i just can't be doing with shooting in RAW and then having to convert everything. Is it possible for you to compare the zenfone 9 with an s22 (I believe it has a true optical 3x lens)?

[@d.v.o.8870]

Great! Now I know for sure I go for the Xperia 5 IV. Improvements are still possible with software/Android and firmware updates on both phones though. I am curious if the Mcpro24fps video app bring also improvements with choosing the insane 500Mbps quality in 4K 60fps without overheating.. Thanks for all the good work!

[@mr_stoosh]

Thanks for your efforts very impressive how Sony has held up compares to the Zenfone 9 with the Gcam mod. Am glad to hear that there are no overheating issues with the 5 IV which is a relief.

[@gesundheitshase7249]

Wow, with this comparison I'd say the devices are pretty equal in camera aspects. Probably also in speed and battery life. @Techreview Podcast, which one do you favour?

[@lltechview]

So hard. I cannot decide.

[@gesundheitshase7249]

@@lltechview let's just say, the reason we buy compact phones is the handling. Xperia has side sense, shutter button and the fingerprint sensor placed exactly in the middle, Zenfone has the smart key and more flat edges. It will be Mercedes S-class vs BMW 7 series here - preference. Maybe you can say a view words about one hand operation and handling in your next update, would appreciate it.

[@anecro]

@@gesundheitshase7249 Chipping in to mention that the 5 IV also has a telephoto camera which is crazy useful on a phone in my opinion, but it's also hella more expensive as a device and the range of the telephoto isn't insane like with a 5 III but it probably produces better quality images.

[@穗稻夏舞-y7e]

雖然已經在台灣預購sony5新機 也很感謝分享跟對比 各有優點和缺點，很棒的影片謝謝🤗

[@ron2037]

Great comparison, one question; have you come across any decent gcam ports for the xperia 5 IV, or is it not compatible with Gcam like the zenfone is? Am deciding between the two and would love to have the same kind of processing with the xperia's hardware

[@lltechview]

So far GCam on the 5 IV is a no go.

[@bloodytoad2010]

Sony is smart to want you to use their software (photo pro, video pro, cinema pro) even for xperia 1 series they do not allow you to install it. But you use their auto mode for photo pro the quality out beat G cam. Taiwanese website has a post about it with photos to prove and I'm loving it ~ 🥰

[@xtremeforcebestgaming4775]

The best gcam is parrot gcam. The katest ver 1.5 is most stable mod

[@travelwithsameer316]

Waiting For Sony Xperia 5 iV vs IPhone 14 Pro max Camera Comparison.... Hope You Will Do It...

[@Max791-z7l]

I'm into 5'9 inch or below display monster smartphones 😭😭😭😭😭😭but no perfect yet anyone know some?

[@robertg921]

Thanks for your all suggestion. I am checking GCAM in my Zenfone. I would like to ask you in which way we can updating this App? Because it isn’t in PlayStore. I have to do more tests, but in my phone GCam doesn't work always in perfect way and sometimes Asus Cam give me better results. Especially in night photos (GCam photo takes 2 times more time and result is a little bit worse) and sometimes with video (on GCam I have light flickering which is not visible in AsusCam). But still I’ll be test both App 😊

[@lltechview]

For updates you have to really manually check if the author of this specific gcam version did update it

[@sorooshsamadi3456]

Thanks for your comparison. Please make a gcam vs stock comparison on edge 30 ultra

[@lltechview]

Don't have the Edge 30 Ultra here sadly

[@LEIFanevret]

I thought about getting the zen9 but Beeing a sony guy and just seen this comparison for the most part Sony wins! Allthough the macro cam and better compact on the zen is better and of course! You get what you pay! But still Sony could sell more phones if the pricing and repair costs were lower

[@yeejay6396]

Okay now this is going to be one heck of a comparison.

[@SebastianBohn]

Would be great to share the Gcam settings. I am using the mentioned mod on Zen9 but it occasionally crashes after taking a shot, and it doesn't remember aspect ratio settings. Reliability is key for quick shots.

[@lltechview]

Did not change anything and did not notice those issues

[@Kizarat]

Would have been interesting to see how the cameras on the Zenfone 9 perform in manual/pro mode.

[@lltechview]

Same overprocessed photos sadly. I hope they update it

[@callmeigris]

Gcam version?

[@mrda2611]

The telephoto gives the Xperia an unfair advantage, but I'm happy with my choice anyway. Prefer the more compact Asus, and the GCam at least lets it trade blows with Sony's processing. How's the temperature and battery life on the Xperia?

[@lltechview]

temperature is lower on the Zenfone 9. Throttling is on par but the Zenfone 9 is definitely faster (in benchmarks). Interestingly enough the Sony can hold a constant framerate in games and temperature where the Asus jumps a bit around. Battery life the Sony wins because of its larger battery life. I will do a more detailed comparison that will come out pretty soon talking about the major differences and which one is the winner overall.

[@mical2912]

i have a $ 1 MILLION question 😅 is Sony's 8 gen 1 snap chip manufactured by samsung or tsmc? because I was reading about a version made by tsmc for Sony .. can you check with some program?

[@lltechview]

Afaik 8 Gen1 is only done by Samsung.

[@mical2912]

@@lltechview ok thank you

[@wjj669]

Thank you for your thorough support of Zenfone 9. I bought one based in your tests. Which websites or blogs to do you recommend I follow so that I will be notified if a superior GCam mod is created in the future?

[@lltechview]

There is this telegram channel that I can recommend: t.me/ZenFone9Chat

[@wjj669]

@@lltechview thanks again!

[@barbarosaa87]

I'm looking into an upgrade from my Xperia 5 II to something... Maybe not precisely newer, but with less issue. From the beginning its fingerprint scanner is mostly a miss (something like 30/70 hit'n'miss) and it overall lacks a bit o polish. I really miss modern LG phones -_- And now, after dragging the 12 OS update, it seems Sony will just abandon this phone. So it seems they will keep the same attitude in the future as they had in the past (anyone 'mebers X Compact? :D) I like the Photo Pro app. I've been updating it via 'external' installations as Sony doesn't give a toss about porting those to older phones. But my usage is occasional. I like to snap some city lines at very early or very late doggo-walks where the light becomes interesting. So it seems that for better pictures I would have to go for a worse phone, Xperia. But how worse is that? Really? Or maybe, is Zen a better daily driver? And no. No Szajsung. And no Chinese brand. Just, no. ;)

[@barbarosaa87]

Oh! And another idea (milking the content :P) could be to compare both using something like Open Camera. It would be interesting to watch how those sensors work in something external to the usual algorithms.

[@lltechview]

I have to see if I find time for this

[@AkshayDhargave]

Xperia 5 IV vs 1 IV comparison would be good, if you can?

[@lltechview]

Its on my todo

[@JoeGillian0]

Hi, I did not see a review of Xperia 1 IV Vs Xperia 5 IV...especially for the telephoto if that makes sense.

[@lltechview]

Yeah on the todo. Need just a bit of time to do it.

[@JoeGillian0]

@@lltechview no problem...:-) Take your time, I was just curious but I think I prefer the bigger screen and the 256 SSD storage anyway

[@Squary94]

It's a shame that you don't do portrait shots. It would be interesting to see how both cameras fare when people are photographed. On a side note, since you have the xperia 5 iv. Does it have the setting to only unlock the phone via fingerprint once you actually push the power button? I remember on my 5 iii that it did not have such a option causing accidental unlocks all the time.

[@lltechview]

Its lacking that still

[@syhfhfjdn3373]

@@lltechview this is incorrect. It has this settings options, i think under security options

[@Squary94]

@@syhfhfjdn3373 well, which one is it now?

[@lltechview]

@@syhfhfjdn3373 You are right. I did not see it there before but it is there on the 5 IV where it is missing on the 1 IV

[@collinshelton1]

Hi, coming from a Note 20 Ultra. I've been considering the Xperia 5 IV due to it's compactness. How would you compare the cameras of the N20U vs the Xperia 5 IV?

[@lltechview]

5 IV is good but weaker in zoom. In general the Xperia is way more natural in its colour reproduction and only light on processing. The Note 20 Ultra I think has more aggressive processing.

[@collinshelton1]

@@lltechview Thank You!

[@az9az9az9]

Does HedgeCam 2 work on them? Is it possible to take exposure bracketing in DNG at full resolution?

[@lltechview]

I tried it briefly on the Zenfone 9 and it works also with exposure bracketing and dng raws

[@carlosrey1331]

In the night time garage scenario with the Asus, it was 3sec or 7 sec or just the regular night shot? Just curious because I notice that using 7secs with this kind of pics makes the difference.

[@lltechview]

7 seconds

[@alexlovin]

nice video ..so .... 5 iii vs 5 iv or Zf9 ? what would you recommend for someone coming from XZcompact era ? i mean overall felling and value for money ? or maybe skip the flagships and get a 10iv for battery and daily use

[@lltechview]

Value for money for sure the Zenfone 9. Also as it is a bit more compact regarding the height.

[@nugetta]

How fast is focus in low light? Now I have Galaxy A53 and it is tragicaly slow...

[@lltechview]

Its ok

[@u2be2000]

Interesting that the colors are better on Zenfone using GCam. Skin tone doesn´t appear so yellowish like on Sony.

[@lltechview]

Sony is in general more yellow and warm

[@alessandrorusso6041]

Please can you give me the exact gcam versionethat you use on Zenfone 9?

[@lltechview]

See: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKbTnHiCgq-WoZY

[@dujankees]

any chance you could try gcam on 12s Ultra and make comparison with stock cam? Great video btw thanks again!

[@lltechview]

I tried various different versions that crash or have subpar quality. So I did not pursue that further

[@vincenzoscerbo1530]

when a full review on Sony Xperia 5 iv

[@lltechview]

Soon

[@d.v.o.8870]

The Sony Xperia 1 IV + Sony Grip GP-VPT2BT brings in a "Camera Endurance Mode" that I didn't know about. This is the solution for longer video recordings. So the phone can go overdrive mode without burning your hands I guess. ;) Now I hope this feature will also be on the Sony Xperia 5 IV.

[@lltechview]

Sounds like marketing bla bla

[@d.v.o.8870]

@@lltechview I found this on the Reddit SonyXperia sub. I know you post there your KZbin videos too. This is a legit feature on the 1 IV look at the the homepage specification page its written their: (copy past) "With Bluetooth shooting grip GP-VPT2BT and the Endurance mode, you can stream for a longer time.40 [1] Video recording [2] Live streaming [3] Followers" So you don't believe this?

[@lltechview]

@@d.v.o.8870 I don't know how. The grip is only connected via Bluetooth to the device isn't it?

[@d.v.o.8870]

@@lltechview I cannot post an image link here. But this text is what you see on the activation page when connected to the grip: This device may limit certain functions as a precaution when under intensive use. If you turn on Camera endurance mode, an icon will be displayed to indicate that the app will maintain high performance. When this icon is displayed, you can use the app for a longer period of time. Camera endurance mode is only available when using Photography Pro with a remote control connected via Bluetooth. Closing Photography Pro will disable this function.

[@josephaquino3095]

@@lltechview The phone will still get warm with endurance mode. Ideally, warmer with such. It will just push a bit further. Without it, and as it assumes you are handling the phone, it will limit the temperature so that it will still be comfortable on hand. So, with the feature on, it will not be comfortable on hand, that is why it needs a camera pod, like the VPT2BT.

[@vincenzoscerbo1530]

great video, how to install G-cam on Zenfone 9?

[@lltechview]

Download the apk and install. See the other video I did on that topic.

[@johnprice482]

Please compare the zenfone 9 to the s22. Battle of the compact android phones!

[@lltechview]

I have no S22 here. Please donate so I can get one to do it.

[@kiddcisco]

Personally I would take the Zenfone 9 as the S22 battery is not that great nor the processor. The 9 is the better device but edge in camera would be S22. I like the Asus OS more than Samsung

[@mactian9493]

Can you please tell me how to enable the stabilization in the ultrawide video recording? Coz it seems the stabilization only work on the main cam with the default setting

[@lltechview]

Works for me on both without issues. Which device software and so on?

[@mactian9493]

@@lltechview my zenfone 9 is on the latest firmware 32.2050.2050.34 and i just download the gcam from the link you provided in other videos.. everything works well except no video stabilization on ultrawide and selfie camera.. only works on main cam sadly..

[@lltechview]

@@mactian9493 Make sure to set Stream Config for Front and Wide Cam to EiSv3 for Video

[@mactian9493]

@@lltechview yes it's finally works.. thank you so much sir..

[@Alexander-vg9vh]

Ich würde gern noch mehr vergleiche mit dem Sony Xperia 5 iv sehen

[@lltechview]

Klar kommt noch

[@Ionut.Manuel]

Bro where are you from?I like your accent sounds germanish xd

[@lltechview]

Yeah I am from Germany

[@interestinginterviews3150]

Where can you get Gcam?

[@lltechview]

Telegram channel of Zenfone 9 for the Zenfone 9

[@interestinginterviews3150]

@@lltechview I'm confused. I thought Gcam was an app?

[@lltechview]

@@interestinginterviews3150 Yeah it is. The newest version is shared via this channel.

[@chanmia2256]

Sony 5iv vs 14pro

[@uaeelectronics]

Sony is overpriced and has a history for Fingerprint issues along with poor battery life. Not sure if they fixed these issues with the Xperia 5IV and 1IV.

[@AlexA-ts8sq]

Dynamic Range, was, and still is the weak spot of Xperia cameras ☹. And i`m sure 100% that the fuchure X1 Mark 5, and Pro I, will show the same

[@lltechview]

I am not so sure about that. Dynamic Range is actually quite good. The thing is they don't overdo it and let shadows be shadows instead of brightening them up so much that you hardly can see its a shadow.

[@AlexA-ts8sq]

​@@lltechview on Sony shots, shadows are too dark, and highlist are a lot of overexposed. It`s old sony cameras problems, like magenta tones on shots.

[@lltechview]

@@AlexA-ts8sq I don't see highlights overexposed though all the time with photos if you turn on HDR on the Sony. If you sometimes see a white sky without blue it is mostly the video mode and that can be fixed with using a gimbal and wide range mode or HDR video recording.

[@vuongphamvan7578]

Zenfone 9 is Good

[@tjiangfebryan3207]

Link gcam asus ?

[@lltechview]

See my previous video about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKbTnHiCgq-WoZY

[@BertoJA876]

Can you do GCam on the 5 iv??

[@lltechview]

All the gcams I tried crashed

[@BertoJA876]

@@lltechview Dam.. I pre-order this phone and just in case I don't like the native camera quick shots in basic mode I wanted a backup option. Please, if you find a working APK please share 👍🏾

[@anecro]

@@lltechview I'm pretty sure there's no Gcam version that works 100% on any Xperia device, which is a huge shame and the reason why I'm not crazy about Xperias anymore. If you can, instead of trying out different random versions, try using versions that worked on past Xperias (II and III series) even partially and go into their settings to change the phone model from "Auto" to "Sony". I don't know whether or not you've been doing this all this time but in theory it might help. Also as far as I know there's a Gcam Telegram chat that might be able to help and provide information that's much needed for people interested in Xperias. I haven't found a definitive, certain answer as to if and to what extent Gcam works on Xperias, specifically IIs, IIIs and IVs and it would be HUGE if someone finally explored that combo.

[@bloodytoad2010]

G cam quality lose out to Sony own camera software already. Its proven on a Taiwanese website e-price. The person just used basic mode and and trashed G cam. So Sony is smart enough not to let users install G cam but utilize their underrated photo pro application.

[@anecro]

@@bloodytoad2010 I don't see how Sony actively limiting their users is positive even if you think Gcam produces worse results. More people would consider Xperias if they had a more computationally-heavy option. What about its great night mode? What about Gcam's noise reducing algorithms and its dedicated astrophotography mode, among other functions? What about the ability to touch and change every aspect of its computational outputs? I'm using a Realme 8 which, granted, has pretty crap hardware and software, but still Gcam has saved it a lot of times. And there's some objective reasons as to why you may want to use Gcam on Xperias, for example what about the pixelation that's visible from their native app? Zoom in on any photo from any Xperia model and you'll notice some pretty ugly pixelation here and there that Gcam simply doesn't produce. On top of this, however ugly it might be, what if you want insane dynamic range to get all the details out of a shot instead of realistic, 3 dimensional shots produced by Xperias? Until Sony develops an identical app to Gcam ports Xperias remain crippled, even partially, and this is coming from a huge Xperia fan trying to get his hands on a 5 III. I don't get why they insist in limiting 3rd party apps so much, no one should appreciate that.

[@shaunigothictv1003]

He is a lovely boy

[@residentCJ]

Price and SoC is Flagship, Camera not so much. The reason why nobody buys small Phones, is that they put mediocre Cams in it. And than Apple argues the funniest thing : Nobodys buying the mini, so we discontinue it 🤣🤣 Panasonic CM1 had smaller Formfactor on the front and lays better in Hand than these two, but has 1" Sensor. Low Resolution on Xperia and blown Highlights/low Dynamic Range on Zenfone. I like everything but the small Sensor and low Res. on Xperia.

[@prohanrooswelt9097]

Does 5 mark 4 has heating issue

[@MeizykTM]

12:00 🤔

[@uaeelectronics]

Warning: If the Fingerprint goes bad, Sony won't fix it free of cost. If you're buying the phone from Amazon, then good luck getting it repaired under warranty.

[@lltechview]

Please stop posting this under every Sony video I made. If you have a problem with Sony's warranty clear it up with them or go to court

[@lovemademan]

Xperia 5 K.O. that lame Asus not to mention it also has compatibility with Gcam. Cheers!

[@mrda2611]

I'd say they trade blows, and GCam doesn't work on the Xperia.

[@lovemademan]

@@mrda2611 you say BS, spit your crap somewhere else!

[@johncaban4310]

Try Gcam on the Sony!!!!!!!!

[@lltechview]

Does not work