Livestream review of Governing Body Update #6

[@jevonator_9479]

Thank you so much for breaking down the update, Lloyd! I was born and raised a witness and left at 28 just over a year ago. I was thrilled to find your channel about a week later!

[@LloydEvans]

Thanks I’m so glad you enjoyed the show!

[@mvwmark8955]

Watched 4 minutes 30 seconds of this before I got a phone call to head out. While getting ready to go out, I've been repeating "ParrraGuay", and my wife has just asked me kindly to "please stop that!"

[@paulcarroll7054]

@@mvwmark8955 🤣🤣🤣

[@ArtVentriss]

I will also add this comment to the changes occurring at the JW Ministry of Truth. The heyday of the JWs was actually from the 60-90's when many of their "prophecies" were ready to "be fulfilled"in a climactic manner. By this I mean, the "calling" of anointed class was basically said to have ended in 1935 so the elderly GB members were still of "that era" and expectations were high , the very critical and central prophecy of the 1914 generation was very much active and again expectations were high because the generation of 1914 ( which the GB - being guided by holy spirit- had been intensely in agreement as to its meaning and who it was etc). There was no internet then of course so the organisation strongly controlled the information going out and it was very difficult for the average JW ( if they wanted to) to weigh up whether what they were "learning" was accurate or not- of course the strict disciplinary code meant that it was social suicide for any JW to behave in any manner contrary to JW policy. The tool of "unity" was infact the threat of shunning via disfellowshipment and ironically up until 1948, shunning was considered and written by the leadership as being wholly unscriptural.. yet they reversed this view when it dawned on them the power it yielded in keeping the flock in check. And their were many other JW teachings which were essentially time based and the expectation was that things will happen imminently - the last part of the last part of the last days etc. However once the 2000's came, many of the long held "truths" and interpretations started to self dismantle, and much of the revealed "light" of the mid 90's was fast becoming a liability- false light - and the organisation could see the writing on the wall.

[@madamecurious]

We are getting close to 2025 now - 50 years since 1975 have passed, but JWs still believe Armageddon is near … 🙄

[@Mercipher21]

Hey Lloyd, I'm having a crisis of faith, I guess you could call it. I'm 3rd generation JW on both sides of my family and I was baptized when I was 12, in 1996. My dad was an Elder for many years, my mom was a reg. pioneer, all of my uncles were Elders, and 1 grandpa was an Elder and the other an MS. So I've definitely been in deep. I recently came across the ARC CSA case and was absolutely mind blown. That lead me to seeing an article that the GB registered with the UN as an NGO, which led me to your video about the NGO situation, so I watched it. Then I saw a video about the KH mortgage loan forgiveness and KH sales. I'm questioning my whole life 😔 Thank you for being so respectful and objective. I think you have done an excellent job with your videos.

[@victoriabeal3596]

I totally understand. Waking up to this understanding is devastating when you’ve been born into it. It took me 10 years to fully process.

[@Mercipher21]

@@victoriabeal3596 Thank you for your msg. I guess the most difficult thing for me is that I don't want to displease Jehovah, but then I question that he's ever been backing this org. I really question if Jehovah is doing anything with humans, except for watching, until/if he decides to end all of this.

[@noone3216]

I remember the UN thing well. I was recently out by that point, and I'd brought it up with my dad who was a MS at the time. ..3 guesses how that conversation went 🙄

[@Mercipher21]

@@noone3216 Yikes. My dad just passed away in June, but I always appreciated that he was so open and transparent with answering questions I've had, and transparent about how Elders are taught to handle things. He was a good man, I hope I actually do get to see him again.

[@noone3216]

@@Mercipher21 That genuinely sounds nice (the open transparent communication I mean). It's all I've wanted from my dad since I was 16. I've just turned 39 last week.

[@Sosimples650]

I’m so happy you’re here :) I’ve missed your rebuttals, they’re always very informative and well researched. Thankyou so much Lloyd for your previous work and future works 😊

[@Theother95]

The word preaching means recruiting

[@paulcarroll7054]

I really can’t stop laughing at the beard syndrome. It’s becoming a symbol of now being in the organisation. Like white shirts and black badges are synonymous with being a Mormon, having a beard is becoming synonymous with being in the Org. 😂😂😂

[@mlove.1376]

Comparing, guilt, shame and isolation are all ways to control. It was watching another Cult do their thing, that I was finally able to see the similarities of how the narcissists keep you there and helped me wake up more clearly, other than something was wrong.

[@donnyetta]

Thank you very much Lloyd - that was fun, live 😀

[@pattieavenmarg3263]

In a way, the GB has to cherry pick on the subject of Bible studies, what else can they say? They will never admit to stagnant or decreasing numbers of publishers. Even in 1976 the WTS blamed the publishers themselves for leaving in droves after Armageddon never happened as they predicted!

[@Mr.DC3.1914]

Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL

[@a_net5610]

Thanks Lloyd. I've now caught up on all your vids, starting on the live streams 👍

[@EmilySolem-Davis]

Enjoyed the live Lloyd. Sending support from Minnesota.

[@lisajane4330]

The whole beard thing is out of control! 😂

[@delphinawhiles6235]

a few nice ones but many scary n overgrown like my elder bro in law. I feel embarrassed looking at it.

[@ThatBlueSponge]

They look ridiculous! Wearing a beard is not for everyone! I mean it does not look good or grows well on anyone.

[@lisajane4330]

@@delphinawhiles6235 😂🤦‍♀️

[@josefhorndl3469]

"A global campaign to start Bible studies"! What? Where? In China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iran? Wow! Good Luck ;)

[@LoXena]

In Israel, how ironic 😅

[@derelbriarley6786]

How about the USA?

[@B.W-k8k]

@josefhorndl3469, Could you imagine what tyrannical regimes and theocracies like that could do if they turned JW doctrine into legal policy? Oh, that would be Hell on Earth. Let's hope no politician ever tries to co-opt JW doctrine and make it the precedent for the laws of the land. I kind of doubt the Governing Body would be against the idea in and of itself. They would just be upset that they wouldn't be the ones running such a government, unless these leaders appointed one of the Governing Body members to the role of national leader.

[@Ballykeith]

North Sentinel Island ... anyone?

[@ArtVentriss]

Firstly I must say something about this "beard" thing. As a JW myself of many many years, though faded now, I find the whole sad saga about the whys and wherefores of beards over the years and the not-so-subtle soft shunning it attracted for brothers who dared to sport anything beyond a 48 hr stubble, utterly, utterly hilarious ( but thanks to Jehovah of course for communicating this "new light" on personal grooming to the GB and Jesus as well presumably not to mention the others "up there" who no doubt are also sporting beards). The GB can now feel "at one" with their heavenly co-elders who, as one would have noticed in their literature, all have solid beards- maybe this was the real impetus for the intense private prayer sessions the GB would have had asking Jehovah to provide clarity as to "the beard"- and perhaps they suddenly felt out of place with the grooming standards of the heavenly realm and maybe after all these years they might have realised that their attitude to beards was misguided where "the light" was too dim to see clarity ( thanks to Rutherford whose public dislike of beards stemmed from his well known wish to curtail any influence from his predecessor in Russel)- though of course any brother previously who "insisted" on his right to have a beard was considered somewhat of a pariah ( I've seen it myself in action)- but now beards are all the rage. Well done GB for feeding the sheep at the proper time.

[@morningglory9288]

Those GB men don't suit their beards, I don't know why they bother growing them. I'm sure they grow them purely to make a statement.

[@lukecharles9622]

Funny thing is. The beard thing was never scriptural its simply a style preference based on what was seen as appropriate during the 60s and 70s. Clean shaven was considered neat and formal at that time so they enforced it strictly. It was always an incredibly outdated rule with an unreasonably harsh punishment considering this.

[@madamecurious]

It was a manmade rule. It shows that JWs are “followers of men”. They adore the GB members and give them their full, unquestioning obedience. Something the Bible condemns!!

[@morningglory9288]

@lukecharles9622 I wonder how many men got disfell'd/shunned for refusing to shave off their beards. Now that it's approved, I bet they're still been shunned.

[@lisajane4330]

@@madamecurious yes it's pretty scary really

[@annemariefrank]

Thank you, Lloyd! Spot on as usual! 🎯👏My first 2 impressions: yes, his pronounciation was impressive! And what's with the tie?? I'm getting "poisonous animal" vibes here 😂😂

[@paulcarroll7054]

I’ve been living in Tanzania 🇹🇿 for the past 3 years. There’s nothing exciting here about their preaching work..

[@madamecurious]

I’m wondering: are a lot of people becoming JWs there?

[@paulcarroll7054]

@@madamecurious . Not as far as I’m aware. I am aware, though, that they take no notice of the higher education counsel. To tell a Tanzanian not to pursue higher education is to tell them that they will be working hard daily for next to nothing. There’s no benefit system to ease their worries; you don’t work, you don’t eat. Higher education is the only way of poverty here…

[@madamecurious]

@@paulcarroll7054 , my hope is, that many JWs in Africa will also become aware that they are caught in a cult and need to leave!!!!

[@paulcarroll7054]

@ Not as far as I’m aware.

[@AnthonyMorrisReturns]

Great rebuttal Lloyd! I hate the way they speak so robotically slow. He spoke for 13 minutes when he could have done it in 5 minutes or less.

[@mlove.1376]

How else can they get their self righteous, glory seeking in. Got to show how frinkin cool he is with his new beard. Now over 50 years ago I understand why my mother complained about this very thing. If they are humble servants, then say it and be done. Why are these men (because the women are just baby making cattle and arent allowed) going overboard? What is their motive?

[@B.W-k8k]

@AnthonyMorrisReturns, Hi, Chaka. Yes, they always seem to do that, speaking slowly, and they always seem to talk down to the audiences as if they're a bunch of incompetent dummies, and why do the Witnesses allow themselves to be spoken to like that? If you were to talk to a person with a mental or learning disability that way, most would understandably find that offensive. But when it's a Governing Body member talking to potentially millions of Jehovah's Witnesses, they just put up with it. What kind of sense does that make?

[@AnthonyMorrisReturns]

@@B.W-k8k Yes, it's completely tragic. A short while before I left the religion we had this couple over for dinner. I suspected the husband was at the very least PIMQ but the wife was definitely PIMI. So we started talking about how slowly the GB members and helpers talk and I mentioned that I put them on x2 cause I find it unbearable. And they were like "Yeah, we also put them on x2. We are a young family with a child. Life is too fast paced to be listening to such slow speech". I wonder how many other PIMIs either don't watch these videos at all or put them on x2. There's actually been a movement in the JW religion in the last few years to get speakers to speak slowly. When I was a ministerial servant and then an elder a criticism I would get constantly for my talks was that I spoke too quickly. I would be told stuff like "You need to give your audience chance to absorb what you're saying!" And I would be like "This is stuff people have heard thousands of times before". As for the presenters on JW Broadcasting, it now appears to be official policy to speak super slowly. When you put their talks in an audio analyser you'll find that there are couple of seconds long pauses after each sentence. Even the men who would naturally speak quite rapidly like Stephen Lett and Mark Noumair have conformed to this style of speaking. I think this speaks to the arrogance of the Governing Body in thinking each and every one of their words should be listened to by their captive audience.

[@sparklecanada0112]

​@@mlove.1376Have you ever studied up on how Narcissistic Individuals behave? Non Stop Ramblings and Self Centered Focus, is all part of their conversations. It's never ever mutually beneficial or time conscious. It's always a Lecture and never a Mutually Engaged Discussion.

[@geoffreybunting9837]

At 2.04 Caged Beagle may be right about the 11,500 because he may have the new figures from the new service report for 23/24. The new service year starts 1 September, so he may have peeked at the new figures. I can't wait for it to come out. That's the first thing I'll check. Also, it's very much easier to be a publisher now with no hours required. By the way, Aged Speigal stands like Hannibal Lecter when first Clarice Starling sees him

[@madamecurious]

“Caged Beagle” lol 😂

[@atuaheneevans2408]

😂

[@ArtVentriss]

@@madamecurious 🤣😂🤣😂 for the same.

[@delphinawhiles6235]

Casually going for a walk j passed 3 sets of pairs door knocking close to ea other. What seemed like 2 sets of husband n wives middle aged n 2 young bearded men about 25ish chatting away to ea other withb a little girl about 7yrs old. I could have crossed the road to avoid them but i wanted to see if anyone would informally witness to me. They were meeting empty doors n here i was, a person they could preach to. Nope. Ea sis said hello to me n i said hello back. Thatcwas it. Husbsnds said nothingvto me. The younger men' didnt acknowledge mecat all as they left a empty door n saw me but were 2 engrossed in their conversation with ea other. Not even a hello. I think talking to strangers is so not normal to them n clearly none of them were people people, they just hope n know sat morn means a lot of empty doors.

[@sherylheidecker9025]

It’s good to see you. Enjoyed the video.

[@oliversacks3837]

Thanks for this Lloyd! Greetings from Virginia Beach

[@bobbielee9250]

Thanks Lloyd! I have heard the numbers are going down! Hopefully these people are opening up their eyes and realizing what a cult religion they are in. Keep up the great work !! ❤🙏🏼

[@mb-the-enby]

Stuff like this almost makes me want to break no-contact with my toxic JW mom just to ask about her take on this bizarro world that the WT is currently in. Unrecognizable from the organization when I was growing up in the 90s!

[@barrettleigh5118]

100% And my parents too. …they blindly adhere and obediently do as they’re told 🤮

[@EricaSarah-q3h]

I admire how smart you are Lloyd. Bravo!

[@SaffronHammer]

Good Things / Bad Things--a classic & still makes me laugh. HAHAHAHAHA!

[@EL-IZ-At-BETH-sarim]

I could foresee the cart witnessing disappearing...it's not quite the 'direct approach'...zero engaging...😂 So back to invasive preaching methods...😵‍💫😬

[@eileenjoycemomsen3568]

😂I loved the comparison of their silence on failed court cases to crickets and tumbleweed.😅

[@trading_card_universe]

I take these “real life experiences” with a grain of salt because I personally know they twist these stories to their own will. For example my ex wife and I started a study with a young couple. They even went to months of meetings. But they kept talking about how wealthy we were and many members at the KH were too. We thought that was odd, so we asked them if they really wanted to study the Bible or if they just were looking for free handouts. They immediately stopped their study and moved away. A few weeks later they were in the news for being involved in robbing houses and shop lifting and were in jail. But the crazy part is later that year at a circuit assembly, without us even knowing about it they told our experience about the study and how they were coming to meetings and making great progress. End of story. Ummm… did they forget about the crime spree? And jail? We looked at each other and laughed, but that was a turning point for me knowing honesty is not their best policy.

[@B.W-k8k]

@trading_card_universe, That's a messed-up story. That's one reason why going house to house evangelizing is so dangerous. You don't know what kind of person the other human being on the other side of the door could be.

[@vernonsalvatierra1124]

Well done Lloyd. I'm a former JW as well. I remember seeing you on the Scientology and the Aftermath show. You were in the episode about Jehovahs Witnesses. Have you seen the 7 videos that Mike Rinder put on his you tube? Thank you for reading this.

[@mteteris]

He gloats about the court victory - being forced a blood transfusion is a violation of your human rights in choice of medical care. I don't seem to recall human rights or 'informed choice' being mentioned when they coerced the jabs.

[@ArtVentriss]

Yes ....and very silent on the Norway decision.

[@B.W-k8k]

@mteteris, A vaccination being required over the spread of a communicable disease is not the same thing as refusing a blood transfusion. You're denying yourself a potentially life-saving blood transfusion is just going to kill you, in most cases, not anyone else.

[@olivesheridan1175]

I was thinking the same thing 🤔

[@simonkoster]

A slimmer Mark Sanderson: That is sooo spot on!

[@geoffreybunting9837]

At 15.25 All five family members from the same household were all of the same generation no matter their ages

[@latishabennett702]

😂😂😂 right

[@geoffreybunting9837]

From 42.46 This old line of reasoning always reminds me of the song by the Cure called Never Enough

[@rollo4722]

Anecdotally, I can say the witnesses are now much more reluctant to knock on doors. I had a couple come to my door recently. They neither knocked or rang the doorbell. I spotted them out the window just standing there and they were surprised when I came out and opened the door

[@BeeKind_1]

Good morning from Tasmania 🌻🐝

[@towerdom6191]

There is always more to do in Jah’s service🤑

[@noone3216]

16:52 hah! This was exactly my approach for a solid 18 months 😂 Ive also used such classics as: "Hi. Do you want these?" *holds out wt/awake* 😆

[@anniesavedbygrace]

A certain other exjw channel researched the transcript of the courts decision. Theres a LOT more information available online on this specific case that give a broader picture on what 'went wrong' in regards to the JW recieving the blood tranafusion.

[@EmilyZulu-k5g]

Hi from Croatia

[@madamecurious]

Hello to you from Florida 🌴💚

[@slimfadey2973]

At 7:50 the dude says that the ruling shows that people have the fundamental right to choose medical care. But witnesses don't have any right to choose they are told what to choose. Reminds me of how in the past the organization fought many groundbreaking court cases for freedom of speech and yet don't allow the same freedom within the congregation

[@barbwire531]

Hi from South Africa 😊

[@shiftyourmindset2]

hey fellow south african

[@bielefeldundmehr2461]

Recently there was a huge JW convention here in Germany (in my home town Bielefeld). Many JW members could be seen here in town for several weeks.

[@littleweightlifter6853]

43:58 " enough is never enough" that was my big argument with my mother when I was in my 20s, is that the Jehovah witness religion doesn't let us have a normal life

[@bobbiefritz2525]

How do I find those reports online regarding growth/decrease? Anyone know?

[@DavidTaylor-ki2ir]

Nope, it’s a secret!

[@Ballykeith]

Google "Service Year Report Jehovah's Witnesses". The latest report is for 2023.

[@bobbiefritz2525]

@@Ballykeith thank you!!

[@mkartmkart6335]

A podcast with someone from "outside" interviewing Tony Morris would be AWESOME... Maybe Jordan Peterson ? That would create a storm. But probably too dangerous to them both...

[@dianehinton4225]

Thank you for all the effort you put in.

[@LloydEvans]

Thank you for your amazing support of the channel Diane!

[@JamesRamundo]

They are hemorrhaging members! A friend told me it's great that they are expanding the local Kingdom Hall and it's proof that they are growing. He failed to say that it's only because 3 were closing and now this hall will host 4 different congregations of various ethnicities. Going doooooooown!

[@philipatkins405]

It's all a story fairytales and all fictional

[@keineahnung74]

❤

[@dperez578]

He needs counsel on his hand gestures. Way to many

[@joyceaitken3421]

Enjoyed the video

[@Darrinnewlife]

I see he is wearing the bling ring now

[@andymoon5752]

Damnit I miss ur daily videos

[@AndrewJackson-j5l]

Appreciate your lack of clickbait title.

[@B.W-k8k]

It's not advantageous for the Governing Body to release decline numbers in addition to growth numbers. There's little doubt that the Witness faith's numbers in African countries are growing. They tend to be more socially and morally conservative and tend to not have as much access to material needs or a good education. I don't see what's so exciting about an entire family of five converting to the Witness faith in that one testimonial. Religious conversion in families is not at all uncommon. Most people that convert to JWs and probably most other faiths, those people are probably more likely to join when they know someone else who is already a member, most likely a good friend or family member. It probably gives them a sense of security about making such a decision. That's not super surprising. The idea that Witnesses study the Bible in church more than any other denomination is a laugh. Reading from "THE WATCHTOWER" magazine on a Sunday morning isn't the same as reading from an actual Bible. True, most Christian denominations do utilize hymns, prayers and sermons during services, but then, don't the JWs do that too? Why is that shocking or hilarious, I mean, it is in Gage Fleegle Schpiegel's eyes for some odd reason. Most conservative denominations of Christianity claim that they "only use the Bible", but if they were being completely honest with themselves, none of them ever use "just only the Bible", not even JWs. I mean, the Bible's not exactly as thrilling of a read as a Stephen King novel, so most denominations wouldn't spend an entire worship service just reading passages from that book. I think that even many Christians know that the Bible would be a boring read if you read it like you would read a 19th century, 20th century or even a 21st century novel.

[@c.t8958]

He appears to be faking enthusiasm.

[@noone3216]

It does **seem** that way. But what the target audience won't notice is that.. he is.

[@kevink2593]

You have to be invited to go, and you don't get to choose which one you're going to (that's how my sister who's still in & her husband the elder were "assigned" to go to Poland). They didn't want just ANY JW going, even if you had the $ to do so. Vetting for loyalty, no doubt...

[@jasonhammar2558]

Speak to me Gage needs to be on a t shirt!

[@robotaholic]

I'm so happy for the growth of the 144,000 lol😂😅

[@0o0unimaginative0o0]

Not me being from Austria and have a step grandma who's name is Hannelore 😮 she is JW. She is the reason my parents got into it 35 years ago. She is a bit nuts.

[@SaffronHammer]

Gasp! The Bible directly contradicts itself? Say it isn’t true. A. Don’t ever test Yahweh. B. Test Yahweh and see he is real and will prove that and bless you.

[@TheNataryee]

on the issue of beards, if you cannot beat them, join them

[@bortiz11]

The blood issue is where I first had an indicia that my JW wife didn't really buy all the BS. She has been a Witness for almost 15 years,] and I have asked for a copy of her blood refusal documents for at least 10 years (so I don't get blamed by the family or authorities, since it would not be hard to jump to a conclusion that I would not mind her dying... you know the legal system and grieving family... ). She has refused to give me a copy, or contact info for the hospital liaison or even her elders. Then, recently, I quoted some JW propaganda back to her, and she asked me why was I insulting her. When I showed her the website contents, I could see the cognitive dissonance going round and round like Windows 95. Today, I sent her a medley of verses, a sadistic biblical poem of sorts, of many verses that explain that we, unbelievers, are... well, awful, hated by their god, and to be destroyed, to summarize. She has not spoken to me yet, and it's been a few hours. I've learned that many JWs have something critical from their theology they quietly disagree with.

[@Gsjehrwhjjrr]

Thanks ❤

[@littleweightlifter6853]

7:01 nineteen special conventions for 2025, but remember in 2020 brother Lett said that we're living in the last days of the last days of the last days of this system 😂😂😂

[@robotaholic]

The both ways thing was so funny

[@davidmay3042]

Can you imagine how JW broadcasting would have handled the sinking of the Titanic?” Yes Brothers and Sisters. Many passengers completed their journey to New York successfully. “ ( pause for applause) Never mind it was in another rescue ship and whilst so many others drowned

[@B.W-k8k]

@davidmay3042, There was a Middle Eastern (I think Syrian or Lebanese, but I may be wrong as to the exact ethnic identity) boy who survived the sinking of the RMS TITANIC who converted to the Jehovah's Witness faith later on in his life. I believe his story was featured in an issue of "THE WATCHTOWER" magazine, or maybe it was the "AWAKE!", I think it was written during the 1980s or 1970s. At the time of the ship's ill-fated maiden voyage, the boy was traveling with his older teenaged sister. They were either Eastern Orthodox Christians or Oriental Orthodox Christians (I believe they were of the latter). They were traveling in Third Class. His sister also survived the tragedy and later became either a Lutheran or a Presbyterian (I cannot remember which). I think they both legally changed their names. Most victims of the TITANIC disaster, according to historians, likely froze to death in the freezing waters of the North Atlantic rather than drowned after the liner disappeared beneath the waves for the final time. More than 1,500 passengers and crew members lost their lives in the tragedy. The little more than 700 survivors of the TITANIC were rescued by the RMS CARPATHIA within a few hours after the sinking, and upon being dropped off in New York City on April 18th, 1912, their arrival in the city was one of the most significant events to take place at the Chelsea Pier. I imagine that if you looked up older Bible Student literature from 1912, you might find a reference to the RMS TITANIC disaster. Many religious groups delivered sermons in the days and weeks after the sinking. Some saw it as a direct punishment from God. Some saw it as being due to man's foolish attempts at trying to master nature, the ostentatious luxury that the liner's wealthy First-Class passengers were showered with aboard the ship. The idea of building larger and faster passenger vessels, or made tirades over the potential dangers of scientific progress and increasing innovative technology etc. Whether there were any Bible Students among the victims or survivors of this famous maritime disaster seems to be unknown.

[@Elecyah]

I find that funny. "Direct approach." As opposed to....?? 🤔 The INdirect, the cagey, the deceptive approach. 😑 The approaches the WT normally endorses, like starting a conversation around general topics and then diverting it to the reason why you're REALLY talking to the person. *If* God or angels were directing or assisting in the preaching, *if* God was personally pulling in "right-hearted ones," *why* would they need anything else but the direct approach? 😑 Also: I hate that I missed the live stream!! 😭

[@mkartmkart6335]

JW will not survive more than 10-20 more years unless they do major changes. Still i believe the outchecking must be done wisely, and the part about offering bible studies are a smart move. There will be lesser and lesser "truely" interested students, and at the end JW will be a gang of "hairdressers cutting eachothers hair"...(preaching to eachother) Its painful to see that braches will be cut away from the tree, especially when you sit on that branch. But its maybe necessary, Change is still possible, and they have at least started with the beards

[@Jobson85]

"mistah, should i call you mistah?"

[@littleweightlifter6853]

7:23 poor lady now she's going to feel so sad 😢 because she gets to live, it's opposite day every day for jws 😂😂😂

[@geofflawler1962]

Loveyalivestream moreplease😢😢

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

Regards the blood issue: Did you notice how he was very careful to not say that she was following the Bible's/Jehovah's/the Governing Body's directives?

[@theresasheridan9621]

Thank you Lloyd! I would love to support you again... do you have my contact info?

[@LloydEvans]

Hi! No I don't think I do, but you can email me at [e-mail] - thank you so much!

[@Cryptidsmethodology]

Will the real slim Sanderson please stand up!

[@kerrydwyer1879]

Conventions are repetitive. Ive heard 2 decent talks that were spiritually accurate over 14 years. Says a lot hey

[@Rocket-Joger]

This makes no sense. Why focus on bible studys if this can not be reported anymore ? It´s like working for no money 🤷‍♂

[@noone3216]

Which, coincidentally, is what JWs can look forward to in the 'new system of things' 😂

[@ThatBlueSponge]

You are wrong! Bible studies are reported.

[@ArtVentriss]

@@ThatBlueSponge Correct. Studies are reportable but the hours (per se) are no longer reportable. Why did this massive change come about?? Basically headquarters are now NOT obliged to report a DECLINE in the preaching hours in the yearbooks. If the JWs continued to report the hours, then obviously the yearbooks would also need to show these hours- so by not having any numbers to report means.... sorry but we can no longer show the numbers - or more specifically, we cant show you show the declining numbers because it is contrary to the narrative of the past 100 yrs ( constant increase) . They will never say that of course because many JWs might start thinking "critically".

[@je10135]

Is he wearing a Gryffindor tie or am I losing my mind?

[@eileenjoycemomsen3568]

43:45 You shall not put the Lord thy God to the test...My thought too

[@pavelturek3629]

Even sisters have a beard nowadays

[@eileenjoycemomsen3568]

50:45 Their pockets are cherished, most likely.

[@serafin1352]

The beard thing really makes me sick. Over 30years and being reprimanded for having a damn 5’oclock shadow even! So glad the gb has decided… giving permission to everyone because we know they don’t follow men!!! 😑

[@ArtVentriss]

Praise the lord. Next it will be compulsory to have a beard - a complete U turn- why should Quakers and Jews have all the fun!!!!

[@thezenoflux8244]

bible course sounds like Scientology.

[@B.W-k8k]

@thezenoflux8244, Yeah, but unfortunately with Scientology, one has to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars over a period of years for those course materials. And the Church of Scientology lied for years about being "the world's fastest-growing religion". Bah! You're definitely not going to grow your faith when you're only appealing to the very wealthiest members of society. And every time one of Hubbard's writings get revised or something, members of the Church have to spend more money and then have to read the same book that they already read at some point earlier all over again simply because it has new material.

[@garryiglesias4074]

3:00 - Well, he said "Leon Fwanss", Instead of LYYYon, Frrrranceeee... So much for a "good pronunciation"...

[@B.W-k8k]

@garryiglesias4074, Well, I guess that's what happens when you have a schpiegler like Gage Fleegle trying to impress the audience with language pronunciations. Well, he probably would do better than Splane with his 'splaining.

[@JamesRamundo]

I love the way the gb will roll out ye olde Proverbs 4 18 new light nonsense almost every convention/annual meeting....what if they get this new light months before from Jehovah?? do they allow the members to keep teaching the soon to be old light until the convention or does Jehovah reveal the new light the night before?? It is presented in such a corporate model fashion like a company unveiling new software or a different product to keep the sheep pacified and excited(yeah good luck with excited).....Preposterous lol.

[@Cryptidsmethodology]

What a messed up cult

[@geofflawler1962]

Lookinggoodlloydloveyalivestreammate

[@Ballykeith]

Child baptism @ 2:27

[@kerrydwyer1879]

As we age our hands may get shaky,so grow a beard😅.Or ask someone to shave you if you dont want a beard(ha ha ha)

[@Cryptidsmethodology]

36:35 “tremendous growth” bros lying for sure 😂

[@Diana-kh9wf]

is Gage's beard on purpose? It's like two tone

[@littleweightlifter6853]

27:18 that lady is a liar, other religions study the bible by quoting from the bible itself, what the other religions don't do (most of them) is study another book to get know the bible

[@martinayre4908]

The bunker was much better 😊

[@LloydEvans]

I miss it too!

[@francesrichardson7723]

I'd listen to Lloyd broadcasting from "The toilet", if need be. So grateful he's continued his work, in spite of all challenges. Absolute legend! ✨

[@AndrewJackson-j5l]

Couldn’t make it 5 min. . Sorry man but your reaching

[@neverperching1554]

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