NYJAH HUSTONS SECRET TO KICKFLIPS

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Every skater learns how to kickflip early on but few master kickflips. In this video I break down Nyjah Hustons Secret to Kickflips so I can learn how to kickflip consistently like Nyjah Huston. If your struggling to kickflip consistently Nyjah Hustons secret to kickflips might help get your kickflips back on track and help you kickflip consistently. I hope this video helps you learn how to kickflip better Nyjah Hustons secret to kickflips definitely helped me learn how to kickflip better.

[@ezedjay]

Nice one Joe. I had a kickflip win tonight. Just setup my Sons new board and we went out for a roll around. Bumped into some of his friends from school and they were all "do a trick". I'm 47 and...it hurts to fall now. I looked at my Son and he said "do a kickflip". First try it flipped double and I didn't put feet on it. Second try it flipped once and I landed it. Now I'm king of the hill baby :D 47 and validated by 11 year olds. I don't care. I will take take it :) Winner winner Pizza for dinner tonight.

[@localjoe]

Haha this made me smile thanks for sharing!

[@tigeroce2771]

That’s sick aha

[@FloatyWeirdo]

100th like, thats the most wholesome thing

[@Ali-et9oz]

You're an actual legend

[@butterbruhh]

Them kids will remember that for the rest of their life, its like having an og skin in fortnite lol you're a legend.

[@madjc13]

38 years old right here and before that Nyjah Interview i was pretty much "Andrew reynolds" foot positioning. I would get 3 out of 10 tries on my kickflps. After this im 9 out of 10 skating twice a week, knee high flips. It worked for me. It is a great advice!!!

[@maxsanchez764]

dang thats crazy 19 here and im about to try this method too

[@toran8281]

i love your pfp

[@stormedwards356]

Same for me man! Not knee high yet but getting there lol! 👊👌

[@tonycruise]

works perfect for kickflip bs 5050 or kickflip fs board too , his method is not good for stairs or for high kickflips but it is good for very consistent kickflips

[@tonycruise]

@@stormedwards356 if you want to go higher put your right foot a tiny bit more ON the board and flick forward instead of to the right. pop your hardest every try, if you want to do consistent put your foot barely on the board and just do a normal pop with a fast flip and youll land it every time

[@Jamtron88]

We should take Nyjah's approach to most of our tricks. Precise, as little movement as possible, less room for error. Just makes sense tbh

[@JustinKrux]

its to be noted that there are other skateboarders that have insane board control and accuracy flipping into things that do not kickflip this way, Chris Cole and Luan Oliveira, to name a couple.

[@villiantwo]

@@JustinKrux was just going to say the same thing. luan has one of, if not the best kickflips and his foot is across the board.

[@thebayharborbutcher9115]

I don’t understand how nyjah gets so much height on his kick flips with his foot like this far out on the board

[@JOIHIINI]

Prior to this video I actually started trying kickflips like this, and the comfortability on your board is next level. I learned kickflips to fakie above the coping 9n my mini ramp the same day

[@jeffersonesteves4759]

😎👊

[@anthonycharles8920]

I'm 38 and just started skating again I started in 92-93.. and luckily I taught myself how to kick flip with my heel hanging off the board like nyjah back then and now I'm leaning again the same way I taught myself in the 90s... anyway I felt back then I had almost complete control over the board when doing kickflips.. and hopefully I will still maintain that control once again!! Peace..

[@localjoe]

You got it man!!

[@YuB]

yoooo didnt know anyone else kickflipped like that!! ive tried to un-learn mine from the foot hanging off way like 6x and can't do it, now i find out nyjah kickflips like this???!

[@yourfavposerrr]

Yo

[@kanekiuzumaki3485]

Wassup YuB😎

[@localjoe]

Whatever works for you! Thanks for the sub G! 🙏🏼❤️

[@easyyttv]

lul

[@SlainLamb]

I've had this foot positioning for a few months, and it's been bizarre to go from 1 out of 5 to 9 out of 10 if not 10 out of 10. You can see in the slow mo: his pop is significantly quicker than flick, popping from the inside pocket like a front pop shuv, his body is also perfectly parallel with the board.

[@thevernonposse]

I'm one of those guys that for years could never kick flip so I heel flipped everything I'm talking like 5 years just could never keep the board under my feet your video helped a ton just changed my footing

[@curlyguy9730]

I feel like I can relate my skills closer to thus guys than other skate tubers and that's why I just subed to him

[@localjoe]

Relatability is all I got haha

[@gustavobuquera]

The way i set my mind into kickflips, back when i skated, is that i always tried to make a circular motion with my front foot, and be sure it was higher than the back one, also i always did tricks with strength forcing that pop like Luan Oliveira. This way i was always very secure about flicking and landing it very consistenly, even if my foot was not in proper position.

[@ca_ja25]

Ohhhhhhh, Can't wait for this one

[@localjoe]

It’s pretty interesting hope you like iy

[@Jib_Lachance]

Dont forget Nyjah ride with his truck pretty tight ... so if you want keep your balance on your board with your front foot heel out of the board you probably need to tight your truck a bit. i think is a combo of those two

[@zibafu]

was just thinking that would be a factor

[@be3rryy]

true.

[@BrochMan6]

I personally like and feel like your foot should be on the board as much as it can be. The better I can cruise, carve, go fast, go over bumps, cracks, actually in the trick position the better because it sets me up to be able to do that trick whereever, whenever and in tern makes me consistent because I am more comfortable and not falling off my board the whole time.

[@deadheadcentral2514]

I kickflip in my ollie foot position just turned slightly. It works great for me really helps you kickflip over things

[@chongymeister14]

One thing you have to consider is that Nyjah is notorious for having really tight trucks, if you have loose trucks this can cause you to turn and lose balance. When i learnt klickflips it was the opposite the more I had my foot on the board and flicked confidently thats when I became consistent.

[@jacobrocco2447]

Your kick flips are getting so much better can really notice the pop and how high they come up!! Good shit brother keep it up ur gonna be insane pretty soon 👍

[@localjoe]

Thanks man out here working on em!

[@pikachewbacca3638]

What helped me is practicing Ollie’s it took me 8 hours to land my first kickflip I learnd it in the grass and that helped me

[@davidthenewtheologian7757]

I’ve always kept my toes at the bolts and just flicked forward. It feels so much better to catch the board that way

[@hendreljulio7120]

That crooked grind was buttery, glad to see your progress bro !!

[@localjoe]

Thanks man love me some crooks!

[@officialmelzz8430]

I have summer school I’m def watching this in class I have a decent kickflip but it can always be better

[@localjoe]

hell yeah haha

[@testteststeron]

Joe, Nyjah is notorious for the hard truck setup, that's why he can feel ok with his heel out of the board. Tight your trucks and try again - it must help a lot.

[@jimizxztheorginal]

Watched this, landed my first kickflip.... good looks!

[@localjoe]

Hell yeah!

[@cozytried]

i now do my kick flips like this. feels so much better and more consistent for me

[@sovietpigeon1346]

This hyped me up, but it's 8p.m, but as I soon get home, I'll try this

[@danielaaleinad5013]

I actually think trying another foot position will get you to upgrade your flips because you get other feels and when you return to your self-learned position you'll feel more confident in it

[@espinhela10]

Dude you are doing a great job showing youR ACT OF SKATE !! I hope we ll meet some FRIDAY!!

[@khojertw]

i got the kick down but i haven’t landed it yet

[@localjoe]

Just stay centered on the way up then the way down will take care of itself! You got it!

[@khojertw]

@@localjoe how do i jump up on the board. I have like a spring sound motion where I pop right before like really hard toe-dip then wait till it's up and flick my leg right(goofy) but the board flips and moves away

[@arcadeattic]

I have never missed a kickflip and every single one is a foot or higher,its all muscle memory but that was from age 13 to 32,now 41 and just starting to skate again i am too scared to do it🥺dont ever quit

[@henriquesousa6181]

Come backs are cruel man, I'm back after 4 yrs and I'm scared to land pop shuvits, need to take a time and get a new rythm

[@lasserisvik6616]

I have never missed a kf. Hahahahahah good one dude.

[@SkateSka]

@@lasserisvik6616 We would at least know who he is if that were true.

[@lasserisvik6616]

@@SkateSka true ;)

[@BendApparatus]

I'm just beginning to learn kickflips so take this with NO grains of salt... But the way Nyjah does them is the only way that I've been able to get the board to flip. No other foot placement has worked for me (by the way this is the 1st time I'm hearing that's how he kickflips) I don't put my foot so close to the bolts though, so it's something for me to add. Remember though if I'm not mistaken he rides his trucks pretty tight...so I'm sure that helps with stability. I also have a set up with tight trucks but I've been riding a set up with medium loose trucks recently.

[@jorgevelez1809]

Love you videos, can't wait to see this channel grow!

[@marcantoine7105]

Maybe try to lift up your front knee more waiting for the nose to be higher, because your front foot doesn't actually touch the nose going through it, your foot goes sideway and not straight. Doing this would make the upper of your shoe touching the nose, flicking is easier and it will make your board fliping higher and tweak. Been working on my kickflips copying Jake Hayes's for 2 months now and it made me improving a lot lately

[@localjoe]

Yeah that jake hayes trick tip is so good! Didn't realize I'm missing my nose I'll have to pay closer attention.

[@marcantoine7105]

@@localjoe Yeah i saw your video about him, it's a good one. About your front foot you don't really miss the nose it's more that it doesn't fully goes through it. I appreciate your videos because you share what it's like to learn skateboarding, to look for the smallest details that would make a difference... and it's not that common. I mean there are not so many people trying to really improve their kickflip once they have it. I am the same. And after 5 months of studies lol here is my understanding about kickflips : first find the space between your feet that works for you (because we don't jump the same way), second the longer your deck is the harder it is to flick through (especially if you don't have long legs, i went from a 32.1"/ 14.45"WB to 31.8/ 14"WB and it's a huge difference), once you have determined the position you're confortable with : the more your front foot is on the board the more it'll have to go sideway, the more it hangs out the straighter it'll have to go, the more it's near to the nose the easier it is and CONSISTENT, if you put it far away from the nose it will be way harder to get a consistent kickflip (because you have to "aim right from afar", it's less forgiving) BUT you can jump higher IF you don't drag all the way to the nose : you lift your knee up and put directly your foot in position to wait for the nose, AND you'll have to work very hard on your back foot to go higher because the board tweak high and strong... it's really really hard but it's really really beautifull... It's the king of the kickflips lol. In conclusion : as long as your front foot goes through the nose at the exact kickflip area WITH the upper of the shoe you'll get a good kickflip, no matter where your feet were. And the pop is not very important, you can put your back foot closer to the bolts if it helps you to be more confortable getting your front foot closer to the nose... It's a Science lol, keep up the good videos Joe !

[@hightfly9300]

@@marcantoine7105 Thanks for explaining all this stuff. I've only learnt heelflips consistently and after a year skating I would like to learn switch flips. I'm a pretty technical person, so I appreciate you deconstructing the motion.

[@SadMach1n3]

Flicking through is one of the best tips I’ve ever gotten with kickflips

[@marcantoine7105]

@@SadMach1n3 yeah, it was the same for me (thank you Jake Hayes)

[@PhryTheBreather]

Really good content man! Enjoying these videos🔥

[@localjoe]

Hell yeah I’m glad!

[@jeffli480]

Nyjah is able to put his foot so far off the board and maintain stability because he skates really tight trucks, so if your trucks turn, his technique wouldn't be all that beneficial. What really helped my kickflips improve was to think of the flick more three-dimensionally, where I think about the flick as sort of pushing the board into its spin. I hope that makes sense haha...I think a lot of times, people tend to look at it in a two-dimensional way, where the board is just this flat object and you're sliding your foot along a certain path and then off, and that for me tends to result in much lower kickflips where you land down onto it as it flops over, rather than the board flipping up into your feet.

[@Jaydawg01]

I feel you on this topic. Found out that I don't have them like before especially up/down something. Made some minor tweak and it was just flicking straight up extending your leg like doing a ninja kick which helped me a ton. Sick local park tho !

[@PHeMoX]

Yeah, but I do think there is a certainly subtlety to the timing that changes, because if you want to have the drag up the nose to lift the board up to kick flip onto something, you really do want to have your front foot more on the board. I doubt Nyjah gets all the air from just the pop itself. He must be doing some dragging of the nose, delay the final flick and then get it done.

[@localjoe]

Delaying the flick and then ninja flicking seems to be a theme of really good kickflippers like jake hayes for example

[@Frank7489]

I was surprised to hear Nyjah say this. I used to flip with my foot more off the board but then I saw lizard kings kick flip and he sets up like he’s gonna do an Ollie. So I’ve been trying to bring the front foot back in but now I see this and I’m thinking I should be bringing it back out 😂

[@localjoe]

Haha personally I think balance is more important because you can adapt to any foot position so whatever makes you feel the most stable and balanced is best

[@WhimzE]

Ooo random recommendation and my man is skating Ivins skatepark, lets go!

[@Talaskabomb]

I hear what you're saying about using the N.H. set up to get things working.

[@tigerbalm666]

Just do wut is comfy for you! Feel the the motion and board cuz everyone is different physically and talently...just cuz I do it gud...doesn't mean you can too!

[@GGMattt]

Kickflips for me are very hit and miss too :/ I've always had much better and far more consistent Heelflips but Fakie Kickflips are SUPER easy for me compared to regular stance ones

[@johnthree1611]

I've always kicked flipped his way, and it never worked well for me. I always wondered how people can Ollie, and then push their foot down to flip the board.

[@klla_km]

You don't push it down. You slide up and flick your toe forward. The board will flip

[@johnthree1611]

@@klla_km, actually there are people who can Ollie high, and then tap their toe down to do a perfect kick flip.

[@Sonix07pr]

I’m at the point where I can land with my front or back foot on the board, but when I try to piece it all together and actually land it my brain/body freezes and I don’t land with either feet.

[@localjoe]

Focus on keeping your front shoulder over the griptape to the top of your jump. If you jump up centered over the board you will come down over it as well. Just focus on keeping that front shoulder over the grip!

[@Sonix07pr]

Local Joe I hadn’t tried the shoulder thing yet. I’ll give it a go on my next session. Historically committing has been the bane of my skateboarding existence, but it’s getting easier. Hopefully my next comment on this channel is post-kickflip haha.

[@localjoe]

@@Sonix07pr You got it dude if you commit going up you can commit coming down! Trust yourself!

[@jacobrocco2447]

@@Sonix07pr shoulder thing helps so much keeping the board from doing a varial or not flipping right, to get used to committing try flipping the board half way and landing with both feet upside down. This helped me a lot getting used to having proper footwork cause once ur ready just flick it a little harder and u got it

[@Skankhunt-hl9zj]

Keep your shoulders straight parallel with the board and you will land on it more.

[@RollingRodent]

part of the reason for his flicks might comes from his light trucks and skinny wheels (thunder hollow light 147 / 300g). and you skate indy standard(376g) and wide wheels. I have tried both of the trucks. actually I have to place my foot like him to get the decent flick in thunder hollow, otherwise the board would be pushed away, even my ollies would become ollie north. when skating indys my foot place just like normal ollie. try a pair of really light trucks and you will flick like nyjah instantly🤙

[@XYLEAN594]

I did heelflips first strangely. Need to have my kick like Luan

[@eldewgzborracho7653]

I think he also kicks forward, while you were still trying to kick out.

[@localjoe]

I can see that for sure

[@gundamech146]

The choice of music is really good 👍 i like it What is the soundtrack name

[@hoodedcobra1531]

gotta make it where when you flick it levels out the board like you do on an ollie… more near the bolts less distance of dragging the foot off the the corner. more center of the board the slower it will flick. More off the far corner faster it will flip. when I started I used to place my foot almost middle and it would rocket. Then I went back and learned the proper way which for me felt like more of doing an Ollie and continue letting the front foot slide off the front of the nose. Then I got where I could actually feel it on the nose and flick my foot. it evened it out so much better and the back would automatically come up and hit the bottom of my back foot. but rolling was lot easier for me then standing still. now my kick flips are high and soaked up like my ollies

[@ricoparadiso]

nice! this helps a lot thx👍

[@ngeanett]

Remember Nyah also has rocks for bushings

[@s1acks282]

I’m so close to kick flips now!

[@localjoe]

Get it today!!

[@s1acks282]

Ill try but the board keeps flying behind me when it flips got any tips maybe? If not that’s fine

[@lolitsmatt29]

Kickflips make me sad lmaooo they so hard😭😂

[@localjoe]

I know they are a constant learning process

[@robertolopez2282]

Yeah bro so good from Costa Rica 🇨🇷

[@Loystefeller]

😱Ahhhh almost missed it!

[@localjoe]

Yo thanks so much for showing up to the premieres my man!

[@bsszzzz1779]

I messed my kickflips aswell..I Flick with too much Power and I hook kinda my frontfoot coz I wanted to learn to bring my front foot nice back on the bolds. I was landing them with the feet to close to each other.. now I messed the Flick coz I never land them straight more into the bs... I am going to try the efficiency of this.. hard to hold balance I guess with this foot Position.

[@localjoe]

As long as you get part of your foot into that zone between both sets of bolts it's pretty stable! Hope this helps fix them!

[@bsszzzz1779]

@@localjoe I will check it out..I keep working on them big time haha.. thanks

[@drea0903]

Nice videos . I will be subscribing

[@localjoe]

Thanks man! There’s a lot of videos just like this one so hopefully you enjoy them all!

[@drea0903]

@@localjoe I've been binge watching your channel. lol

[@localjoe]

@@drea0903 Hell yeah man glad you like it!

[@poulsentyler]

Damn that's a big change from like South Jordan to St George 😂 also if you built your box you skate. Putting that all weather deck material is genius 🤣

[@localjoe]

Yeah haha i've seen skate parks do it so I figured I'd build one for myself

[@poulsentyler]

@@localjoe basically be the same shit as like a butter bench.

[@camilotorres1278]

Buen video. Muy buenos trucos sacás bro

[@localjoe]

Gracias 🙏🏼

[@powerfuljones]

What you think about whole flick out of nose or concave. In the video you said nose. Both videos about nyjahs klickflips are fucking great dude

[@KevinWilliams-ug2bu]

Nice 5000 subscribers keep going man

[@localjoe]

Thanks Kevin!

[@Intrinsicskate2000]

Bro you got any tips on getting out of crooks, I can lock in em all day but getting out is giving me serious problems

[@localjoe]

The trick is to lean toward your back toe wheel and push the grind forward with your front heel.

[@Intrinsicskate2000]

@@localjoe so basically you want to nudge forward with your front heel whilst having your center of gravity over the back toe side? But still maintaining all your weight on your heel? I’ve never been so confused by how a ledge trick works hahah

[@lewismetcalf4545]

I'm weird with my kickflips, Cause I set up simular to nyjah, but instead of dangling my heel off the board, I over-exaggerate the angling of my front foot, so its kind of in the position that u use for pushing but scooted over to the heelside edge behind the bolts

[@MissMitchell325]

the thing is that I’ve landed a kickflip so many times but I still don’t have it mastered tbh if that makes sense

[@coyoterobshreds]

where is that skatepark? lets do a video together I love your content

[@localjoe]

Ivins Utah where you located?

[@Sk8boardG5]

I do mine the same way more or less (not like Nyjahs) but since I’m much older and much MUCH heavier now I kinda need to rely on a much faster and less effortless flick after popping. My switch flips r a completely different story. Switch flips kinda just “go” at a certain speed 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@jphjphjph]

Ay no way, that's Ivins park in Southern Utah right? I live north of you in SLC.

[@ace2044]

I'm addicted to your videos bro

[@svnbit8408]

Different kick with thunders tho, keep that in mind.

[@sup3rmahn583]

i find it easier to do a varial flip than a kickflip

[@imp2330]

Its because your not popping straight back varials are like popping a pop shuv it

[@sup3rmahn583]

@@imp2330 thats why

[@imp2330]

@@sup3rmahn583 yeah i learned varials before kickflips too so dont be discouraged!!

[@goodarnold3307]

Nyjahs kick flip set up is bad with loose trucks. not many pro skaters skate their trucks as tight as Nyjah, this is why its a very unique set up. love the vids by the way, your killing it.

[@TJl919]

That park is beautiful, which state is this?

[@trevorwiechman4404]

This park is in Ivins Utah. This park and the one in St. George are great! :)

[@collinforce1269]

That foot placement is exactly how he did it as a 12 yr old lol

[@mr.3638]

thank you very much)

[@localjoe]

You are welcome!

[@UNDERFLIPED]

gonna try that!

[@localjoe]

Hope it helps!

[@UNDERFLIPED]

@@localjoe I do to!

[@Nealatosis]

Oh shit, I knew it looked like Utah. Waddup from Salt Lake.

[@user-fg3vl5ye6o]

is that griptape mob? if yes how it feels and is it durable? i want to buy one.

[@localjoe]

Yes it is mob. Very durable and great grip!

[@jcsk8]

Just noticed I’ve in the exact same flipping feet position as Nyjah forever.

[@josuecarrizales]

Heelflips>kickflip 🥱

[@homiesapien2041]

Tbh I agree high leveled heelflips look better but kickflip leads to hard flips so

[@Loystefeller]

Hilarious, I kickflip with just my toes on the board and I've actually been trying to change it to get more of my foot on, more or less to be able to kickflip from closer to my Ollie position so it's not as much of an adjustment to set up for. But totally bass ackwards to what your working with lol ..maybe I'll just treat it with the same idea, I'll warm up with more of my foot on and then let the foot go to where it wants. Thanks again for these man!

[@localjoe]

haha thats funny I think its important that at least part of your foot is crossing the imaginary line from you top bolts to the bottom bolts. If you don't get in that zone a little your gonna swerve a lot. doesn't need to be a lot take nyjah for an example but it needs to get in there at least to some degree. Maybe that helps!

[@Loystefeller]

@@localjoe ya I may have the slightest bit over that line, I'll watch for that next time I'm out. Look forward to the next one brother!🤙🤘

[@alexmiller5146]

The key is flicking at the correct time. The stance is preference and will develop as you perfect the trick. For an Ollie the front foot slides up to level the board (obviously). The goal of a high Ollie is to level the board at the highest point after the pop. Kickflips are exactly the same. You want to slide the foot up to the pocket at the highest point of the pop. The flick is just an extension of the sliding motion off the corner of the nose just above the pocket. A good kickflip is all about getting a as much of an Ollie as possible winthin the trick.

[@32srt32]

he also rides an 8" deck when alot of other pros are riding at least an 8.25" up to 8.5" so their toe would be in the same position their is just more board on the sides so more of the foot is on it.

[@lukemartinez3601]

Thought he rode a 8.125?

[@sdm74]

Does this mention nyjah has his trucks so tight he tic-tacs everywhere??

[@DreadedFLOW]

i wanna skate with u G

[@localjoe]

Wya?

[@ibookboyuk]

I’m glad you got the flip up the ledge too. That was really good

[@sethwitten3660]

Hopefully it'll work

[@localjoe]

definitely helped!

[@gutsberserk1449]

Respect

[@32srt32]

nyjah is also skating park. which my flicks are different when im launching up and off of stuff compared to street skating!

[@slash_v2634]

U got a ollie vid?

[@skateat4824]

New sub, well done.

[@rottenapples14]

i feel like i cant roll straight if i place my front foot like nyjah does

[@natebahena8495]

naa we need the secret to nollie heels 👀

[@wowashlam]

nice one. thanks

[@CMG135]

What park is this? Is it in SoCal?

[@emiliocalise4699]

Much love

[@MrHalahalaho]

My kickflips could always use some work

[@localjoe]

haha same!

[@Crxckd1]

what size does nyjah skate?

[@localjoe]

8.125

[@jacobrocco2447]

How wide is your deck?!

[@localjoe]

Right now it's 8.25 but my last board was 8.3 and I loved it.

[@jacobrocco2447]

@@localjoe Ahh I see nice, I’m riding an 8.0 baker atm I like the fact it’s super light and easy to flick compared to my 8.5 krooked, I feel like 8.38 is a happy medium and the best size I’ve ever tried on my buddies board a while ago that’ll have to be my next size. 👍

[@PatinadorGuero]

you live in utah ;) st george skatepark

[@skaterbro9978]

From italy🙌❤

[@localjoe]

Shout out italia!

[@AriaZoner]

6:50 looking good bro

[@zncuentertainment712]

Is this Sk8 George?

[@iyayi8901]

I thought I was the only one

[@_notdutra]

ed sheeran pro skater

[@localjoe]

Haha hurtful but ok

[@greekgamer2818]

i found this video when i searched batb 12 😹😹

[@jeroenretsok]

Foot placement is only 5 percent i would say.. i can stand crossfoot and do a regular kickflip, place em like a heelflip and still do the exact same kickflip. Hell, i can do the same kickflips on combat boots, cowboyboota and barw feet.. the trick is in the ankle..

[@jeroenretsok]

Typing seems to be a lot harder it seems.. Cheers ;)