Alabama Crimson Tide's unique loss to Oklahoma: What went wrong + recruiting impact

[@michaelhapgood782]

SOONER here. I was at the game, even during the warm ups Bama seemed to be sleep walking. I got the same vibe watching the Vandy game. They got the talent. just no heart.

[@propoint6259]

@@michaelhapgood782 Thank you for the insights. Your team was fired up and ready to play ball.

[@briangreen256]

Us Bama fans have been saying that all year! As far as Oklahoma goes,they played their hearts out and it showed👍

[@wisdomwins5094]

Oklahoma has the same talent level as Alabama. Always has. Stop with the Bullsh!t.

[@ronwilliams329]

This was very noticeable to me. Glad you saw as well. This is a coaching and team leadership issue that has to be fixed now. The Barn will run it down our throats if the defense is not ready!

[@1pardoner]

@@wisdomwins5094not true at all

[@scottjackson163]

Jimmy’s proclivity for finding the good in a disaster is precious and strained. I’m sure dinner on the Titanic was exquisite.

[@roadknight5173]

I was thinking the same thing. It sounded like a woman leaving you, and you trying to convince yourself it's her loss.

[@youknowme1701]

Exactly 😂😂

[@utahcanyon1000]

LOL

[@JamesCarter-be9cn]

But the band played on until the titanic finally sunk.

[@1pardoner]

@@scottjackson163 lol

[@jackiewhite1093]

The 3-3-5 defense is gonna have a hard time stopping auburns running game

[@briangreen256]

It won't stop their run offense.

[@popeyedave8253]

Bama doesn't run a 3-3-5, they run a 4-2-5 Swarm. 50% of teams if not more run a 4-2-5. Georgia runs a 4-2-5 run fits. It's not the scheme

[@nikaltesla9400]

Auburn gets at least 220 rushing yards on our defense

[@jackiewhite1093]

@@popeyedave8253 3-3-5 or 4-2-5 bama hasn’t stopped a decent running team yet

[@toddtipton2857]

@@popeyedave8253we ran a ton of 3 man front Saturday and it didn’t work

[@mlipari92]

I knew it was gonna be a long night when the first play, Bama calls is a called run for the quarterback and he got nothing. Why would you call a quarterback run on the first play. Playcalling was atrocious.

[@grgstvn]

Same

[@robbyboyd7262]

And then two plays later Williams dropped an easy first down. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong.

[@JeffHorne-n5d]

@@mlipari92 Just poor coaching!

[@sectruth1457]

Hey Luke and Jimmy. Fan from Huntsville here, and I think you guys were right on last night. I agree with most everything you said. I want to add... and I know/ understand that our coaches are a big problem, but Jalen needs to be benched. He IS NOT a passing qb and has regressed over his time at Bama. His back ups are better passers, but the whole offense doesn't want to play for them. The state of Alabama football is extremely disheartening right now. Anyway, thanks for the great podcasts to listen to.

[@williamwade8206]

What you saw in that game is a masterclass on how to prepare, execute, and play call. Venables is still one of the best at defense and defensive playcalling. He had a game plan that perfectly set up Bama's OC and dictated what Bama's OC called. The whole 1st half, OU kept 7-8 guys in the box to stop the QB run. What did Bama do, kept running the QB run up the middle into a stacked box without enough blockers. That 1st half set up Bama for the 2nd half. You would think that sonce bama got stuffed the whole 1st half they would start throwing the ball to the sidelines and OU set them up. For the first tiem all game, OU only have 5 guys in the box a dropped the other 6 to defend the pass. Once OU got up, knowing Bama would have to pass to catch up, OU unleashed blitzers and defended the pass knowing Bama would completely go away from the run. Masterclass in defense. OU defense dictated everything about the Bama Offense. Bama's Defense was worse. No commitment to stop the run what so ever. Which looking back, Bama has had issues with stopping the run which makes sense becuase of the 4-2-5. Only 6 guys in the box gets you beat with a QB power run or option. The thing that hurts is how Bama's DC never adjusted the defense to stop the run. Horrible coaching and not putting Players in the best position to make a stop.

[@BAMAISBACK394]

Our coaches need to understand the following facts: 1. A four man front with 3 linebackers playing 7 yards off the line of scrimmage is not going to stop the run of an opposing team who has good running backs and a QB that can run. 2. The offensive coordinator must realize that when he sees opponents defense play either a 4-4-3 or a 5-4-2 where 8 or 9 are in the box playing up daring you to pass keying on the run then please call plays and pass routes behind the linebackers. If you recall this is how we went down field early in game and scored points. OUs head coach is NOTORIOUS for playing an aggressive type of defense pressing the line of scrimmage. We needed more slants and post routes behind the linebackers and that would have caused OU to get out of their press defense and then the run game will open up. Tennessee played the same way. Look what GA did to TN when they started throwing behind the Linebackers. They broke away from TN and won the game handily. BAMA coaches must wake up and scout the opposition much better and not be so predictable.

[@chriswhited]

3 ints and the bama qb got jack while trying to run the ball.

[@thomasorzack5795]

Why are you playing deep safeties against a team who has lost top 5 receivers to injury-SMART

[@banjax80]

Only works when you have a QB that can make that throw consistently. If only they had one that could, oh wait... They do. His name is Ty Simpson. But Milroe would revolt if benched because he wants that nil money and that honey.

[@mysteriousoklahoma777]

@@thomasorzack5795..bc one of them OU receivers runs a 4.2, the other one. 4.3…4.4.

[@Markingramforheisman]

@@banjax80do you think he doesn’t get payed if he’s benched? Lmao

[@OspreyFlyer]

OU alumn plus Sooners fan for 55+ years. Wanted to hear the Alabama side. I really like you guys. Subscribed to hear future shows. 👍

[@ITMacPro]

Luke is rooted in reality. Jimmy is an enabler.

[@younggrimey7237]

This is the one

[@CapstoneTider]

It's like Mike Dubose is back as HC.

[@TalkingBallWithJawan]

Gotta admit auburn smells blood in the water

[@BillyWalker-n4g]

Shut Millroe down and you beat Alabama. It’s that simple.

[@cynthia-nn7xt]

Your right

[@hughobrien4139]

You’re right.

[@Bosanovadude1]

From running..of course cause he’s not a competent qb

[@robertjaynes9668]

I'm done with this year's bunch. Need to show a lot these guys the door

[@tonybell7]

How spoiled are Bama fans? 😂

[@darrellbaker2895]

I’d feel more confident if DeBoer took over the play calling

[@ronwilliams329]

Sheridan has been as inconsistent as anything on the Bama team! Bench him and his staff in the booth because they're blowing it badly.

[@toddtipton2857]

Doesn’t matter with Milroe

[@wokemanishboi5003]

DeBoer got exposed last night. Much of what he was able to get away with as a coach in the PAC-12, he couldn't in the SEC. He's unable to get his teams prepared for the grind of this conference. He's not able to motivate or be as attentioned to details as he needs to be to win consistently. You BAMA folks are starting to realize that.

[@spencermays1943]

Coaches are always the scapegoat😂 they not on the field, sometimes the players just don’t execute the game plan

[@Tony_Calvert]

None of that has been proven yet. First bama coach to win 8 games in year 1.

[@NathanielPettus-vh9ek]

I love you guys! As soon as you talked about the mango skit, and having to do the live read after…,,, I died☠️🤣☠️

[@ThinkTankIllustration]

How are you gonna say Alabama should’ve won that Vanderbilt game when Vanderbilt dominated the game from beginning to end and never lost the lead. You can’t claim to we should’ve won when you never even held the lead in the game not once.

[@PatBrooks-u6w]

Vandy is the Rodney Dangerfield of college football.

[@foodiesaustin]

Hey TT this is a Bama pod. Discussing Bama mistakes. Go to Locked On Vandy if you need Vandy cuddles.

[@ThinkTankIllustration]

@@PatBrooks-u6w but yet punched Alabama in the mouth.

[@briangreen256]

I wasnt even mad with what we saw Saturday night. I expected it with the way Bama has been playing.

[@Matthew0819]

Great podcast! Thank y’all for being great!!!

[@scotthyde-t9w]

A 50+ year Sooner Here ! Oddly I’ve also been a Sabin/ Alabama fan because of the 47 year Relationship between Stoops and Sabin Good friends and much respect !! Having said that Alabama had 2 TD called back one because the WR stepped out and the second because of the bad call although they also called hands to the face by a WR vs the DB along the sideline which would also cancel the TD but not lose the down ?? What happened to Alabama was they were a one trick pony with the QB run plus my Sooners are much better than than our record shows because of injuries !! Our Top 6 wideouts, top 2 Tackles, RB 1 with massive injuries across the O line !! We have never seen anything like it !!! OU can stop the QB run because of our front 7 who have stayed healthy! The QB made two stupid passes that were picked off Which is the difference in the game !!! The disrespect Alabama’s coaches had/Have for OU defense to stop the QB run cost them big time as well !! What people need to understand OU beat Alabama with true and RS freshmen !! Our RB was on the scout team until 3 weeks ago, our QB is a freshman, The first pick a true freshmen, the second pick was a guy who has only started several games !!! Only our QB was a game one starter ?? I really want to see Alabama finish strong this year But they need to change that QB run game by adding something else so that when they stop it Alabama can keep defences guessing !!

[@cynthia-nn7xt]

We have so many good players,it's ashame.

[@cynthia-nn7xt]

Everyone wants and prepares to beat Alabama

[@charlessteadman2518]

Thank you for mentioning that hack, Goodman. I refuse to read his articles, because he's nothing but a troll.

[@jm12green31]

Like it or not he's exactly right

[@Blaqk_8298]

If you do the research this was NOT an upset win for the SOONERS, Oklahoma is 3-0 against Bama in the regular season except for the loss in 2018 in the national championship game, OKLAHOMA is actually good but they have had major injuries this year.

[@brianpfeiff7720]

Deboer has to much some tough decisions. Make tough choices on players and what's best for the teams future. And his job!!

[@tonybell7]

You guys are so spoiled you’d fire Bear Bryant.

[@redeyejedi4400]

I cant even remember the last time we only scored 3pts. Just flat out embarrassing

[@tomneff7030]

Last time was 2004.

[@Bosanovadude1]

These coaches are in over their heads…not getting the players locked in and ready to play is unacceptable against a 5-5 team. I give Oklahoma credit but come on …lose that badly …Alabama self imploded

[@tomneff7030]

@Bosanovadude1 Maybe so. But I noticed that Oklahoma's athletes were every bit as good as Bama's.That coach...who used to be Clemson's DC...out coached DeBoar.

[@tonybell7]

You’re just flat out spoiled.

[@tomneff7030]

@tonybell7 The spoiled part you can blame on Nick Saban. Before he arrived they weren't spoiled at all.I remember. They hadn't won a natty since around 92 with Gene Stallings...and they just plain sucked. They were 6-7...the year before the GOAT showed up.

[@MerlinsWand]

Milroe is pretty bad. If they’re coaching staff were smart they would’ve benched him after the pick 6.

[@cynthia-nn7xt]

No he is not

[@MerlinsWand]

@ yes he is, and he was in that game too*

[@bowhuntercsc]

Well here’s the thing with the oc. If you see they have elite pass rushers on outside then help the tackles out with a TE then a reach block with tackle and release TE.

[@mark_a_vigil]

Bama fans are very good and considerate. But please don't go saying well Milroe played bad thatscwhy Bama lost. It was Oklahoma that made Milroe play bad. It started on the 1st play with Stutsman meeting him in the hole standing him up and pushing him back. Alabama didn't play bad, Oklahoma made them play bad. Just give Oklahoma credit for playing well.

[@banjax80]

They exposed what we already knew. Stop his run and he can't move the offense down the field.

[@bobbydyne]

Alabama had open guys in the first half since OU was selling out on the run but there was about 5 dropped passes. Milroe is weak mentally and threw in the towel after that. OU defense took advantage and pinned their ears back

[@cynthia-nn7xt]

@@bobbydyne did you play college football.under the unbelievable pressure of the SEC and playing for Bama where every team we play gets up to play us.Im.just curious.

[@bobbydyne]

@ Please, any sympathy goes out when you’re making 7 figures. There are QBs in the same conference (with less experience and money) playing better than he is

[@Julio-zl7yk]

We have another Jalen hurts. If he can't run the ball we have no offense cuz he can't read past coverage or throw a pass. Maybe we need one of those you know so-called game manager quarterbacks. One of those who could run a little but was able to read past coverage and throw the pass before the receiver even got there and accurate. You know those four game manger quarterbacks who all won national championships for Alabama. You know McEnroe, AJ McCarron who won two Jay Coker and Mac Jones.. The so-called dual threat quarterbacks out of high school can't throw.

[@ddddd9665]

What is “past coverage”? I assumed you meant “pass coverage”, but then you doubled down and said it twice. 🤤

[@dedratrs]

This is the kind of loss that makes you sit back and re-evaluate your entire life. It's really over isn't it. The 16 year run we had, expecting to win a national championship every year. This isn't gonna get any better next year. If Simpson was good enough to beat out Milroe, he would already be on the field. There isn't a championship QB on this roster. So what, we're going to start a true freshman next year? Ty holds it down for a year and we go 9-3 or 8-4? We get a plug the hole transfer? None of the options feel good. We're also going to lose our best 3 players on defense in Campbell, Malachi, and Jackson. I haven't really seen much from the other players on defense other than Hubbard and Brown, and Brown gets beat more often than he makes good plays. It just feels so over right now. I feel like I need to fully reset my expectations for our football program.

[@kennethmccormick9106]

Ty is far superior passer than JM.

[@FreeCrashFlow]

“Reevaluate your entire life? Man, Roll Tide, but get some hobbies or shit.

[@jarredgage]

Yeah. Welcome to Mortality. Coach King is gone

[@chriscannon5371]

Too many drops from the receivers and too many QB runs that were unsuccessful in the first half. The two picks, one which resulted in a pick six, buried Bama. Also, Milroe should have been benched after purposely avoiding to tackle the guy that made the interception.

[@netterstyl]

What went wrong is that Bama thinks opposing defensive coaches are actually that dumb. I.e., bundle Milroe up and prevent him from using his legs - done. Because he can't hit the broad side of a barn when attempting to connect with downfield receivers, as he stands around studying the landscape for an eternity. And of course things are compounded even further by an offensive line repulsed by the idea of blocking.

[@williamstaggs8741]

As an older fan, Ive seen Oklahoma play in the 70's and I know they had a dynasty before that with Bud Wilkinson. Notre Dame was very good for a while. USC was good for a while. Etc. Dynasties come and go. Alabama has been a picture of consistency and excellence for about 20 years. Younger fans think that it will go on forever and it's just not true. Alabama is not a bad team but compared to some of their more recent teams, no. Now, with NIL and superconferences, I do not see too many "dynasties" in the future for anyone. Everyone's expectations are going to have to change. A 10-2 season in the SEC is probably going to mean that you are the conference champ and everyone else will have 3 or more losses.

[@cynthia-nn7xt]

Thank you .....your right. Oklahoma is always good.There are teams in our conference that are damn good.We are not the only 3 loss team.Are they hounding Ole Miss .....look how many SEC teams start out strong and fade,maybe come back or dont .......it's dog eat dog .Schedules,who you play when and then injuries.....etc.

[@BAMAISBACK394]

I’m not that optimistic in beating AU this weekend. Our coaches have not shown the ability to make the necessary adjustments playing against a good run D and a good running O. They have to press more on D and pass more across the middle to loosen up a press D. The only way we beat AU is by not turning ball over at all.

[@BAMAISBACK394]

No it’s the coaching staff not calling a good game. They played right into the hands of OUs Defensive type of press the line of scrimmage game period. Our coaches have to put our players in a position to be successful and that did not happen. Trust me AU will play a press defense to take away our run game. Please pass ball behind the linebackers until they stop playing a defensive press game and then run. You have to keep D honest otherwise the offense will get shut down. You cannot be one dimensional period.

[@Funsho97]

Hey shout out to Lake Martin. My grandparents bought property at Shady Point back in the early 60s, we still have the places. Roll Tide!!! "Grand tapestry of suckiness" needs to be on a T-shirt. Need to focus now on taking all our frustrations out on Awlbarn!!! Roll Damn Tide!!!

[@jm12green31]

Now it's full of Rich assholes

[@lil_unholy7862]

so we aren't going to talk about the 2 TD that got turned over from BS calls from ref's that made no sense that could have turned the game around? i get it bama didn't show up most the game but it's hard to beat ref's and a team

[@joshuaepps4698]

What 😂 Ryan williams was clearly out on the first td and the second one was just a bad call but that wasn't gonna change the fact that oklahoma was shutting milroe down all game.

[@WMGamingE.]

Anytime a bama fan talks about referees and officials we think of the boy who cried wolf. No one ever wants to hear a bama fan talk about officiating and giving the last decade of officiating going bama's way in every game

[@spencerrattler955]

From the beginning, OU dominated Bama. If we are talking about flukes, OU fumbled at the 25-yard line, missed a field goal, and fumbled the ball near the end zone.

[@tokenrl2220]

@@spencerrattler955woah calm down now. Remember only bad things happened to Bama

[@servantotmhg9568]

And we’re also not going to talk about the missed FG, the dropped TD and the 3 scoring chances inside the red zone that Oklahoma missed…deal.

[@rickaochoa364]

So if there’s no spark on offense like yesterday, what do you want Deboer to change jimmy? The o line, the wrs? You want him to go out and play for them? It all starts with the qb and he look scared and shocked not composed at all and checked out. But jimmy wants Deboer to make a change but don’t change the guy that it all starts with. That’s some good thinking

[@YouseeatortoiseLeon]

My worry right now is keeping our QB and RB room stocked. God forbid Milroe comes back next year snd thinks he can low-five his way the starting role. THIS IS ALABAMA. Jacksonville state..

[@LockedLoadedandGoated]

Worst thing for us is milroe coming back

[@garynouban6453]

Milroe isn't coming back. But Simpson had 2+ shots to beat him out and never has. If he comes back he'll be the starter unless either Mack or Russell beats him out. But he'll go to the draft and someone will fall in love with his ceiling/personality and draft him high.

[@LockedLoadedandGoated]

@ Milroe was kept the starter by Saban because of seniority and athleticism. DeBoer kept him there because he can be dynamic. He is too inconsistent now. Ty can read a defense and be a game manager and do better than that bum.

[@garynouban6453]

@ everyone says this. Ty hasn't shown anything in his time as QB to indicate he's any good. He hasn't thrown a single TD at the collegiate level. Even that wow okay vs Mercer was a prayer duck he launched in the air and would have been picked by P4 competition. Milroe isn't perfect but he's the best we've got. Ty ain't it. I'd be stunned if he ever starts a game for us considering Mack and Russell were handpicked by DeBoer.

[@adamlamparello8701]

All of the QBs will leave if Milroe comes back

[@nicholaslake5937]

A game is never "decided' by one play. It may be won or lost technically on one play, but there are always several plays that you could play the "if this would've happened" game. Alabama vs Vandy; that game was decided when Alabama couldn't move the ball consistently while not being able to stop Vanderbilt at several key points.....the fact that it has come to the point where a fan says that Alabama needed "just one play" to maybe scrape by Vandy is an idea worth thinking twice about as well.

[@DocScheffler]

At what point does our Offensive Coordinator realize that the same plays over and over again don't work. It's been the same thing in all three of our losses. You can't win with what you want to do without considering what the defense will allow you to do. Offensive coordinator needs to be replaced.

[@Howboutit-k5d]

DeBoer is too soft to succeed in the SEC. Bama doesn't play with ferocious physicality - no one is afraid to play Bama. And the lack of in-game adjustments vs Oklahoma was a disaster. Both coordinators should be coaching in the WAC or some junior college.

[@BAMAISBACK394]

Luke remembers the 2000 year when BAMA lost to Southern Miss 21-0. That same year we lost to AUBURN 9-0. That team only won 3 games that year. Yes that was one of the worst seasons ever for BAMA. Not a good year at all. We did be VANDERBILT that year though.......🤗

[@hughobrien4139]

I have questions about the coaching staff. It’s psychological. Nick Saban’s psychological discipline is unmatched as records indicate. I believe it is very tough for any coach to match this dynamic. I also believe it can have dire consequences on overall team morale. Alabama lost focus on the here and now and it showed in this game. I started watching CFB in 1997 while living in Alabama. Roll Tide! I also moved to Oklahoma in 1999. Boomer Sooner. I’ve closely followed both teams. This should not have happened. Not even close. The only reason I can see is a team that has lost focus and that head coach is going to have to find it. I believe the level of players Alabama has require this detailed maintenance. Every nuance of coaching is scrutinized by players. It’s a two way street. Coaches want a certain level of performance and players want a certain level of psychological discipline administered in very defined terms. I don’t know how this is fixed.

[@UFBear15]

I was also at that Bama vs Southern Miss game in 2000.. That was a very awkward night

[@AnthonyFixico-c1z]

A unique loss to Oklahoma? Oh please!! OKLAHOMA OWNS the elephants!!! Overall record 4-2-1 OKLAHOMA!!

[@shawnmagouyrk1805]

If I were a recruit I would be extremely excited to come to Bama. There’s almost no position where a true freshman couldn’t start next season. #cometobama

[@jasonsaban3883]

This game reminds me of the 1990 Bama team that beat Tennessee & Auburn then laid an egg in the Fiesta Bowl, just didn’t show up.

[@BAMAISBACK394]

Wooooow! Jimmy, I think you're showing signs of Grief after our loss to OU. Recall the five stages of grief are: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance; meaning it's the initial reaction to a loss, where a person refuses to accept the reality of the situation. I am a BAMA fan but also a realist. I do not see how anyone can say we will beat AUBURN after that performance against OU and the fact that the coaching staff did not scout OU correctly or TN or Vandy. Uhmmmmmm. You may want to skip anger, bargaining, and depression and just straight into acceptance that we are not that good and AU could beat us badly in T-Town. Man I hope I am dead wrong but I doubt it.

[@masonbooth2363]

my last comment..notice how well we play with an off week to prepare..UGA..off week..LSU..off week..I believe the problem is that our coaches are not use to preparing week in and week out for tough physical opponents. The coaches do not understand the grind week to week..give them 2 weeks to get ready and we r lights out…give them 5 days..no chance, at least against a quality opponent..it seems that the coaches are not putting the time in. A lot of Saban’s assistants used to talk about the long hours and the constant grind of the season…u never hear that from this coaching staff..one last thought..we have to figure out a way to keep our best 6-7 guys..#2 leaves, and our RBs leave. we have to keep #2 but there is no way that happens. he cannot create value in our current system..he will be able to at Florida, UGA and possibly Oregon..but not here. our lack of QB play with Milroe coming back will be the last straw..we have to encourage Milroe to leave. we have to cut the NIL money off and force him to the NFL or another team..

[@guineveregruntle6746]

Brutal game for Alabama

[@briangreen256]

Change a few things like qb? I completely agree Jimmy😂😂😂

[@Jesse-x8u]

NO DISCIPLINE WHATSOEVER, ALL ON THE COACHING STAFF BEING TO SOFT ON THE PLAYERS. SHOULD HAVE STAYED AT WASHINGTON.

[@propoint6259]

It's a mystery. Do we have proper leadership within the players as far as Team Captains. That means alot. Maybe I'm reaching. I'm perplexed like every Bama fan.

[@YouseeatortoiseLeon]

Offensive coordinator is all wrong. Clearly he comes from where he can’t game plan for the use of multiple attacks. He is wasting talented running backs. Ghere are plenty of trams that would be happy rushing 250+ with the occasional pap. Milroe has peaked. In fact he peaked last September.its over for him he is not pro qb material.

[@propoint6259]

@@YouseeatortoiseLeon Great Points.

[@RagsdaleCreek]

Deboer not winning consistently with the coaches He has surrounded himself with. Coaches simply can't motivate the team or prepare the team to play. Worse prepared team i have seen at Alabama even in Shula days.

[@RagsdaleCreek]

Coaches can not keep team focused. We need coaches that adapt to game situations and has some kind imagination u not winning with high school style plays over. Coaches are at best group 5. Deboer need better coaches around him. Both coordinators and line coaches. They are terrible

[@Counting3s]

What went wrong? Simple. OU came in with a game plan and executed it perfectly. Alabama had no adjustments to it

[@garynouban6453]

Auburn is plenty capable of doing what Vandy and OU did to us with their run attack. Our run defense is PUTRID. If offense doesnt show up, we will lose to Auburn. And DeBoer's seat will be scorching going into 2025.

[@gregleathers]

Give the OU defence credit guys, Danny Stutsman set the tone of the game by trucking Milrose on his first run of the game!

[@suric4828]

This is a bad team with no leadership and no consistency. It doesn’t take a genius to see this.

[@rickysmith133]

Has anybody heard what SABAN said about the loss?

[@tonynelson2259]

What was said??

[@tonynelson2259]

What was said

[@Howboutit-k5d]

Reality sucks ... bama alum here. DeBoer is over his head in SEC. Both coordinators are over their heads. You can be certain this will only get worse - not better. DeBoer & staff not ready for the big leagues. Not even close.

[@BAMAMADEMG]

Most inconsistent Alabama team I’ve ever seen ,

[@tomneff7030]

You must be very young.

[@BAMAMADEMG]

@ lol im 25 I haven’t seen those other teams in the past

[@tomneff7030]

@@BAMAMADEMG Then it makes sense . I'm old ...I know.Never forget you had the pleasure of seeing your team coached by the greatest coach in the history of the sport. Sorry...he is not replaceable.

[@BAMAMADEMG]

@@tomneff7030 definitely not they need to pay coach saban whatever he wants we need him back ASAP😂

[@tonybell7]

Then you’ve not watched all that long.

[@jondukes7025]

That southern miss game in 2000 was the first Alabama game I attended. Absolutely the low point in my fandom.

[@terryhightower7311]

IT SETS THE PACE FOR REST OF GAME THAT CLL COULD HAVE PUT LIFE IN A TEAM THAT NEEDED A GOOD PLAY

[@LarryMay-p8w]

A bad official call was a momentum killer for Bama! Instead of a spark for the tide!

[@drwinstonOboogi]

don't you have to have momentum first before it can be killed?

[@briangreen256]

The phantom illegal touching flag stopped momentum. Nobody knows how the team would have responded. Definitely didnt mean Bama could have won the game or even made a run but we wont know.

[@WhitneyGadison1]

I’m very curious to know bama fans if yall can answer this, why don’t yall use yalls running backs?? They were 5 stars in high school right? Why are yall using milroe for the run game? It’s very obvious and it got him hurt. Let him throw.

[@jm12green31]

Also our problem deals with competitive nature and heart so you don't just fix that overnight. That's the biggest thing I'm worried about

[@BrandonLayMusic]

Hate watcher here from Tennessee…zero sympathy for the tide but dad gummit I like you fellas good work 🍊

[@chrisc1011]

Ask Coach Saban what went wrong I’ll bet he has some definite answers for you.

[@wknight5595]

3 Bama OC's ran nothing but the same vanilla offence for one reason. Milroe isn't capable of doing anything else.💯 If Milroe was not named the starter and/or benched he would've never shut his mouth and destroy the team. This was the biggest problem DeBoer inherited. I'm not anti-DeBoer until he has a real QB and his own guys to work with.👍

[@garynouban6453]

If we had something better, one of those OCs would've replaced him. I have no idea why so many fans think these coaches were fine playing the worst guy.

[@wknight5595]

@@garynouban6453 It's called politics. Milroe won the locker room when he took all the WR's and team leaders to the Florida summer camp and schmoozed them into his corner... Why do you think it took Saban till the Iron-bowl to replace Kool-Aid at punt returner, he did nothing but make a mess at PR every game but he was part of the team leadership.... You're naïve, you have no idea how the world really works.

[@chriskral4552]

I have yet to hear anyone address, what to me, is a problem. Why should any team get into a playoff with 2 losses to unranked teams?

[@RobloxFan-si7yd]

Saban was coaching and we struggled with the Citadel 😂

[@louielouie5120]

Fire OC and DC!!!! Start over with a whole new staff!

[@tonybell7]

You guys would fire Bear Bryant. Saban is gone forever. Better get used to it.

[@louielouie5120]

@ your team is still shit so I’m guess you are use to it🤡

[@wisdomwins5094]

Oklahoma and Alabama are extremely similar programs and fan bases. Both Top 3 All-time programs.

[@arcyhicks8335]

I don't mind putting the blame somewhat on "not showing up", but let's give OU credit. The Sooners were a hungry team, and they played like a hungry team.

[@jflurr4296]

Where was Kendrick Law???

[@Howboutit-k5d]

He's an excellent talent. Wasted all year due to stupid coaching.

[@garynouban6453]

He's just not good. Great athlete but never made it as WR. Should've been a defensive player.

[@tomneff7030]

​@@garynouban6453That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.He will be drafted as a wide receiver. Yes..he will play on Sundays. His coaching in the NFL will be far superior to what he's getting at Bama.

[@blakemcclellan5748]

FYI I have NEVER hate watched another teams podcast after a win.

[@genxsports8486]

People forget that Alabama is the the SEC team Coach Venables is most familiar with.

[@treystarkey4345]

Y’all have forgotten how close Alabama was to losing 6 games last year.

[@LusaOfi]

Lake Martin nailed it.

[@treystarkey4345]

Most recruits and players know from history what happens after a coaching change at Alabama

[@jm12green31]

Hey guys can we slow down on anointing this team as anything better than good? They are wildly inconsistent certainly not great and when you lose three times in that fashion against these types of opponents, eventually we have to call it like we see it. Don't forget South Carolina and UGA could have easily resulted in a couple of more Ls. The lack of preparation and intensity from this squad is unacceptable

[@ourichie]

The reason illegal touching was called, is there was no eligible player on the left side of the line. The rule states there must be seven players on the line with an eligible player on both sides. There was no eligible player on the left side of the line when the penalty was called. Correct penalty, bad explanation by the officials

[@treystarkey4345]

If recruits leave it’s not NIL, it’s because of the direction of the Alabama program following the Oklahoma beat down.

[@Deb-s70]

Or because of our fan base.

[@treystarkey4345]

@ true

[@FreddyRuger-b6s]

I was 12 when Bama won the first SEC Championship in 92. I only love watching Bama lose now because so many ppl that never lived in Bama jumped on that Bandwagon in 2009. If your nearest college is Vandy, be a Vandy Fan. Im halfway between Ole Miss and MS State. I chose Ole Miss, a lot chose State. Fair game. But someone born and raised in columbus MS being an LSU fan or a guy born and raised in Plantersville MS being a Bama fan just boggles my mind

[@tonynelson2259]

That's what you clowns think, just like you Georgia fans just jumped on the bandwagon in "21 that's why I enjoy watching Georgia lose hope they don't win another championship again

[@ddddd9665]

You seem to be implying that people just live in the same town for their entire life. I’m sorry if that has been your experience. I’m an Alabama alumni but I I only lived there for a few years. Am I allowed to be a fan? Or do I have to follow Texas AM because they’re the closest to where I lived most of my life?

[@ramonamiley3202]

Man you should see all the Bama flags on game day in San Francisco!

[@deathgrinderb3284]

those teams with nothing to lose r the most dangerous. that one call is not why u lost. complain about the refs when its a one score game.

[@BamaPete4Live]

With as many teams Bama has faced running the option, why can't they defend it better?

[@ThaTrueShowtime]

@@BamaPete4Live alignment and no designated responsibility. Coaching is horrible when it come to defending the option. You gotta force the QB to hand it off every single time. Meaning the edge container have to stay home

[@DarthBilldough]

Sooner fan here and every stinking time OU goes into the 3 man front I cringe because the other team will gash us and I saw OU do the same to Bama last night. Those LB'ers have to be on point and physical to make the 3 man front go. Safety sized LB'ers wont cut it no mater what team is on the field if a team is dedicated to running power. Lets be real, huge, athletic, effective NG's are in short supply and I would not even consider a 3 man front without one.

[@ENT931]

Hey Jimmy, you’re a cool guy

[@johnnydangerously7186]

All do respect but there is nothing Bama could’ve done to stop that Sooner Schooner from rolling on Saturday night. You would have to be there to experience the hunger not only the football team had but the 85k fans in attendance! This was a huge release of frustration rolling down hill and it was unfortunate Bama was in the way! This season has been embarrassing for Sooners to endure and all their frustration came to a head on Saturday.

[@scottmac007]

This team cannot handle success thats the Bipolarness you spoke of! And yes change a couple of changeable things like they should have benched Milroe brought in Simpson to see if he could get a spark! We needed someone that can throw the football. Saban did it in the natty and won it!

[@roberthuxen3461]

I am guessing that the NIL and transfer portal has changed everything in ncaa football. Get used to losing. Everyone will lose games that historically they have always won.

[@FreddyRuger-b6s]

Only thing DeBoer sees when he closes his eyes is that Horse Pic his 5 star LB sent to his daughter(she prolly saw it b4 irl, lbh)

[@Todd_B639]

Wommack and that 3 man D front. 205 yards on the ground by halftime. RIDICULOUS!!

[@ThaTrueShowtime]

@@Todd_B639 it’s really 4-2-5; the defensive end which he call Wolf is a stand up defensive end who can play outside backer containment which is currently being played by #4 Russaw

[@ThaTrueShowtime]

Most defenses run 4-2-5 now because of the heavy passing attack. It’s his scheme to contain zone read; QB option that he needs to fix. From what I’ve seen on film study the way we are aligned makes it so easy for the zone read to be effective against us. There was nobody to contain the edge. If Arnold really wanted to he could’ve pulled it everytime and went for 250+ himself

[@Todd_B639]

@ThaTrueShowtime but that just it. He ran mostly 3-3-5, not 4-2-5. You'll never stop the run with 3 D-linemen, especially in the sec

[@ThaTrueShowtime]

@@Todd_B639 I get it but alignment of the defense makes it look like a 3-3-5; Lawson and Jihaad are our true linebackers. The alignment alone wasn’t gonna stop the read option. There was no clear person responsible for the QB on the edge. I’ve seen times where Russaw was lined up inside the 7 technique. If Arnold wanted to he could’ve pulled it every play

[@Todd_B639]

@ThaTrueShowtime And they hit straight up the middle mostly. 205 yards on the ground by halftime. Three games they've gave that look and we lost. Got gashed on the ground for 214 yards, 166 yards, respectively, and 205 this week. And played keep away.

[@russelleads2145]

Unique loss? Maybe, but I do hope it becomes COMMON!!

[@pnwadventurer802]

The SEC is weak this year. The championship is going through Oregon or Ohio St

[@CM-kg2hq]

Just saying what everyone knows is coming. HAYNES IS GONE. Would you stick around for that? What did he get, 3-4 carries?

[@garynouban6453]

Good, he sucks. He's had one good run against good competition all year and has done f all otherwise. I don't think it's a surprise Richard Young stole a bunch of his snaps last night.

[@rolltideandriseup5751]

nope....I'd be gone and Richard Young as well

[@ddddd9665]

I’d like to thank all the haters for stopping by. It’s a testament to our greatness. I’ve never even thought to visit an opposing team’s boards or watch their autopsy videos. That’s a little brother move.

[@ronniemoore2756]

Adaptability, we have none as a coaching staff, players have no confidence in the game plan, not to mention the game was isshhh 😢, taking the good with the bad maybe this gets our program heading in a positive direction 😢

[@johncastleberryjr]

People kill me just because we are not in the play offs the dynasty’s over . We got a team scrambled to be put together a coaching staff that’s all new , an offense of coordinator hasn’t called plays before and think we should be undefeated or something. I said before the season started we would lose 3 to 4 games and miss the playoffs