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Locking Pin Hydraulic Cylinder

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@SYNYSTRDIABLO
@SYNYSTRDIABLO 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I spent all day trying to figure mine out. A little constructive criticism...I wish you would have shown exactly how you got the ring in and out instead of a long view of the back of your shoulder.
@rpeek
@rpeek 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, you're welcome. Thank you for the feedback.
@knunne1
@knunne1 12 жыл бұрын
If your careful after removing the ring you can use a little compressed air to let the piston push out the gland nut. You need to be careful as I have seen others send the piston flying to the ground due to the air pressure. If you an support the entire extended cylinder on the bench and then bump air into it and the gland usually pops out uneventfully. The gland has a seal ring between the outer tube and the gland to prevent oil bleeding by it.
@GarnettM
@GarnettM 12 жыл бұрын
The one I worked on bud just lift the wire end and turn the end with a Pipe wrench the wire will turn with the end do one revolution , Just reverse when installing .
@knunne1
@knunne1 12 жыл бұрын
The seal ring causes the gland to resist coming out and is the reason for the need to use air method.
@rpeek
@rpeek 11 жыл бұрын
I had the guy at the hydraulic shop show me how to get it out. It's a learning process for sure.
@aserta
@aserta 4 жыл бұрын
The reason the wire wasn't moving with the cap is because it was undersized. You don't even have to pry the edge up, you just turn the cap, with a screwdriver under, and it will self extract. If, it's properly sized.
@rpeek
@rpeek 4 жыл бұрын
I see.
@lt4324
@lt4324 3 жыл бұрын
the reason it did not turn with the cap is because the retaining wire was broken or has "straightened out" slipping out of the hole it was meant to stay in the cap, has nothing to do with size! I work on these constantly and as a matter of fact working on one tomorrow for a customer. This is uncommon but still easily removed if you know how or in the repair industry.
@joshua_TheLeader
@joshua_TheLeader 2 жыл бұрын
@@lt4324 have you ever seen them leak from the lock pin if so what causes that ?
@wisdomspitter7688
@wisdomspitter7688 Жыл бұрын
God damn foreign trash.
@AP-xq3jm
@AP-xq3jm Ай бұрын
You should post a video on how this pin is removed. ​@@lt4324
@knunne1
@knunne1 12 жыл бұрын
I have seen these before on some lift trucks. I typically lift up the end slightly and either use a strap or chain wrench, (careful not to nick the piston tape it with masking tape put a rag around the tape and tape the rag) on the gland nut at the top. When you get the gland nut rotating it has enough friction on the ring to walk it out of the notch.Someone told me to use a roll pin punch on the holes on the gland nut like a lever to rotate, but I always wind up using the strap or chain wrench.
@michaelstorm8578
@michaelstorm8578 4 жыл бұрын
It worked. Thanks for the advice.
@knunne1
@knunne1 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelstorm8578 I am glad it worked for you too! I can't take credit for the method, it was shown to me 45 years ago by older mechanic name Tony Grapnik when I was a young tech. Tony used to tell me not to lay on the concrete use a piece of cardboard or I would get arthritis, he was right about that too! Tony always had a better way to accomplish something that otherwise was a pain in the butt.
@rpeek
@rpeek 12 жыл бұрын
On this one the pin had come out of the dowell hole, so it took a bit more struggling to pull it out. Should get a new one with the seal kit.
@dcain32810
@dcain32810 5 жыл бұрын
If you can see how deep the hole is, and as long as you're careful don't be afraid to drill a new hole and use a pin punch to bend the pin back down
@mikediamond1522
@mikediamond1522 3 жыл бұрын
Use a spanner wrench / turn the gland end in the perceived direction and the retainer ring comes out!
@rpeek
@rpeek 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@RiverRatRod
@RiverRatRod 12 жыл бұрын
Looks like you sure enjoy making these videos, lol. I get a kick outta the sound effects during fast fwd:-)
@jamesroughanjr4598
@jamesroughanjr4598 7 жыл бұрын
Iron woodpeckers
@rpeek
@rpeek 11 жыл бұрын
Once you figure out how to get 'em in and out they ain't too bad. Just don't twist that lid and bend the pin so it don't fit in the hole anymore, like I did.
@troytreeguy
@troytreeguy 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peek! Never know what subject matter you will pop up in! Be Well
@rpeek
@rpeek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Troy...
@thisoldguy64
@thisoldguy64 12 жыл бұрын
think you what to remove the other end of that ring!! that end locks the ring in, it could be seating in the grove about over an 1/8 inch! it will be a lot easyer to remove the ring. all you need is a sharp pin to lift out of the groove. than turn the end cap and walk it out. good luck.
@dcain32810
@dcain32810 5 жыл бұрын
It's called a marion ring, can be very difficult to remove. There are several ways to do so. Only reason for it is ease of manufacturing. Easier to cut a groove than a bunch of threads. Quicker and cheaper too
@rpeek
@rpeek 5 жыл бұрын
Not much fun on my end. haha.
@GarnettM
@GarnettM 12 жыл бұрын
The way I was shown is just lift the loop or hook on the end to guide it out the hole and turn the seal guard clockwise to remove it and counter CW to put it back .
@saullopez714
@saullopez714 5 жыл бұрын
That's how I always done it
@VintageJunker
@VintageJunker 11 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get the lock wire removed? It didn't show in the video that you actually got ahold of the wire and removed it. I have the same set up and it doesn't look good. It looks like that gland nut spins freely until you get the wire removed? Thanks for the video
@timmee3543
@timmee3543 7 жыл бұрын
Dawson Needham I did
@saullopez714
@saullopez714 5 жыл бұрын
You pull the wire up and then u spin the head of the rod
@SnakeRiverFishing
@SnakeRiverFishing 8 жыл бұрын
My cylinder and locking ring groove look just like that and the end cap just pushes in it is not threaded, you must get under the end of the clip I used a larger jewelers screwdriver narrower than the clip, then use the proper tool or pipe wrench and unscrew direction the cap this pushed the clip right out of mine
@rpeek
@rpeek 8 жыл бұрын
+SnakeRiverFishing We did get this one apart and it was a two man job, let me tell ya. Thanks for the comment!
@SnakeRiverFishing
@SnakeRiverFishing 8 жыл бұрын
+rpeek I could have used an extra hand, I got all new seal pack in town today and it's working beautifully now thanks again for posting was your video along with a comment below about my style cylinder got me started right and it went real smooth all said, have a great year : )
@rpeek
@rpeek 8 жыл бұрын
+SnakeRiverFishing Awesome. Good luck with your endeavors!
@عواطفمنكلالطوائف
@عواطفمنكلالطوائف 8 жыл бұрын
SnakeRiverFishing زفف
@Nudnik1
@Nudnik1 5 жыл бұрын
fun when salt rusts them in. I had to put one in a lathe and mill gland head off.
@rpeek
@rpeek 5 жыл бұрын
Oh the Joy!
@timmee3543
@timmee3543 7 жыл бұрын
I would like to know who makes this cylinder? I can't find anything on my cylinder no part numbers or anything. O and if u lift up on the flat side of the ring and turn it, it comes right out....
@rpeek
@rpeek 7 жыл бұрын
It's a Rotary 6k lb lift cylinder. I don't think Rotary is in business anymore. I eventually found a new old stock one and bought it. Still got the old one but it leaks by on the inside due to rust inside the cylinder. It's pretty hard to get that pin out . Out have to lift one end and turn the cylinder to get it in and out. I hope I never have to do another one.
@rpeek
@rpeek 7 жыл бұрын
If you search my vids using the word "rotary" you'll find a bunch of videos on this cylinder. I think the numbers are in the comments on one of the videos..
@Alex-nr4fz
@Alex-nr4fz 9 ай бұрын
Excuse my laughter, you are trying so hard to remove the wrong end of the Marrion ring. That end is bent 90deg and simply locates in a hole to drive the wire while turning the cap. If you go to the other end of the wire (just a few degrees away) you will be able to gently lift the regular end with a small screwdriver while rotating the cap and watch the ring miraculously self extract. Thank you, your welcome 😅
@rpeek
@rpeek 9 ай бұрын
Where were you when I needed you?
@cmarbormaster
@cmarbormaster 3 ай бұрын
Alex, are you saying that one end of the Marion ring is bent 90° to catch the hole and drive the pin around the cylinder? Hope that makes sense. Thank you!
@patriciareynolds2729
@patriciareynolds2729 Жыл бұрын
ED, neighbor took his out on Volvo backhoe boom transport lock. gonna try put it back. allen bolt frozeup so doing this in place, looks like pain in ass. besides that someone buggered the O ring groove. sounds like hook the 90 end then roll the ring into the groove??????
@rpeek
@rpeek Жыл бұрын
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@יעקובאינורס
@יעקובאינורס 7 жыл бұрын
Ford tractors had this bad idea. Once corroded fagettaboutit getting it apart. I cut end off with band saw rewelded new back on.
@57fitter
@57fitter 12 жыл бұрын
Love that hi speed rat a tat. Best one is Wes Pandy weldin hooks on his loader bucket. Hilarious!
@rpeek
@rpeek 12 жыл бұрын
That works if the pin isn't stripped out.
@andrewdrevdahl2329
@andrewdrevdahl2329 3 жыл бұрын
You tap the holes as the sleeve turns the spring rolls out
@rpeek
@rpeek 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@liljoeii6091
@liljoeii6091 10 ай бұрын
I never knew that thank you for sharing and thank you for the video
@rpeek
@rpeek 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@snafujag100
@snafujag100 12 жыл бұрын
I have been a millwright 40 years and I have never seen that design!!
@patriciareynolds2729
@patriciareynolds2729 Жыл бұрын
ED, did not see a clip come out! u got it yet? 10 years gone, if u broke the 90 end off looks like u are screwed!
@rpeek
@rpeek Жыл бұрын
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@steverushmore833
@steverushmore833 7 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know where to get a new locking ring for this exact set up?
@rpeek
@rpeek 7 жыл бұрын
You need one?
@steverushmore833
@steverushmore833 7 жыл бұрын
Yes sir I do,seems I'm having a hard time finding one.
@rpeek
@rpeek 7 жыл бұрын
Where do ya live?
@cbmech2563
@cbmech2563 6 жыл бұрын
The hydraulic supply house in town (o - rings and seals) has them . (Fresno ca.)
@hydraulicshop69
@hydraulicshop69 6 жыл бұрын
Coat hanger
@mikesecondo2254
@mikesecondo2254 4 жыл бұрын
This was painful to watch!!..these are pretty simple to do.I am a forklift tech so that's why I say pretty simple to take apart.trick is using a pick at end of spring wire. Lift end then rotate gland nut which will walk spring wire out,
@rpeek
@rpeek 4 жыл бұрын
No doubt it's simple to do if you know how. We did not.
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 11 жыл бұрын
My ford 445 tractors lifting rams are the same shity setup, not looking forward to rebuilding them.
@rpeek
@rpeek 12 жыл бұрын
I'd be happy if I never saw another one too.. haha
@celtic1522
@celtic1522 5 жыл бұрын
If you bend or break the sticking up end tag it is a bitch to remove the lock wire. In theory if you get hold of the tag and pull it as you turn the seal block in the reverse direction to that, that the lockwire was installed you shall roll it out of the hole in the cylinder wall. Works about 1 out of 3 times it seems to me. If it rusts up in there sometimes your options are limited. Mainly used on North American stuff, Mexican and South American labor must be cheap! It is a really stupid system.
@rpeek
@rpeek 5 жыл бұрын
Agree...
@rpeek
@rpeek 12 жыл бұрын
Yea, that's it. Real pain in the neck if'n ya ax me.
@ramseyst42
@ramseyst42 12 жыл бұрын
never beat on it with a hammer........
@rpeek
@rpeek 12 жыл бұрын
Too late..
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 12 жыл бұрын
Now thats a shitty design!! Why didnt they screw it in, then apply a grub screw to stop rotation.
@qaysalshwaiyat905
@qaysalshwaiyat905 3 жыл бұрын
What i did was drill that spot and pried up and yanked that sucker out Its verry soft and pliable
@rpeek
@rpeek 3 жыл бұрын
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@MrComaToes
@MrComaToes 12 жыл бұрын
I really dislike that design
@hoggwild3706
@hoggwild3706 5 жыл бұрын
This video was a complete waste of my time. I didn’t learn anything from it.
@rpeek
@rpeek 5 жыл бұрын
Well bless your little heart. Do you need a safe space and a blankie till you feel better?
@jelenajovanovic2443
@jelenajovanovic2443 5 жыл бұрын
Поправка хидраулика урсуз365
@billsmith7673
@billsmith7673 4 жыл бұрын
@@rpeek HaHaHaHa. Laughin my ass off! That was damn good!
@rpeek
@rpeek 4 жыл бұрын
@@billsmith7673 Thank you Bill..
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