[192] IFAM Huno 80 Shutter Lock v. Chinese Copy: Pick, Gut, & Compare

[@awgmax]

LPL from the past sure sounds alot more sleepy.

[@walmartdog1142]

Glad I'm not the only one that noticed that ! !

[@NeenJaxd]

I actually watched it in x1.25 speed and it sounded better for me lol

[@eabeeson]

@@NeenJaxd This comment should be pinned

[@Asdayasman]

Sierra I want to snuggle sleepy LPL.

[@john-paulsilke893]

I guess it’s back when he was a Lockpicking Paralegal and couldn’t afford surgery for his deviated septum. 😊

[@EdgyShooter]

Only mildly terrifying how a lock he considers good, still takes him less than 30 seconds to pick :')

[@Arleon46]

That was in the past... Hopefully standards are higher now :)

[@UnDeaDCyBorg]

You're right, he's probably even better now.

[@maxshepherd1803]

Man like man picks any lock tho seen

[@shocko77]

Well he is a lawyer in that sort of thing

[@zankisfine3816]

He is to powerful

[@tylersmallman]

LPL: as for the Huno, I'm not gonna waste your time. Me watching lock picking videos at 3am: I appreciate that

[@miramuller7676]

3:29

[@steele_heart77]

Bruh, it's 3:30 for me

[@Osama.Saab.90]

What is the name of the equipment with which the lock was opened?

[@MrDeutschGerman]

Anyone else here from Video 1174 and struck by the difference in presentation? I mean he does exactly the same, but he sounds like he hasn't had his coffee🤔

[@tommypetraglia4688]

Try it at 1.25 speed. It's as if he edited at a slower speed. At 1 and a quarter he sounds normally

[@zico6892]

came here from 842

[@IAMDARTHVADERBITCH]

He sounds like he has a fever.

[@dhawthorne1634]

Use that knockoff in a shipyard for a few months and it'll get much harder to open; even with the key.

[@willm9181]

Can you explain why, sorry don't get the joke lol I'm guessing you're talking about rust?

[@DiverWithTheBends]

Will M no shit Sherlock

[@willm9181]

@@DiverWithTheBends only seeing this now, thanks asshole

[@DiverWithTheBends]

Will M it was a joke, a reference to pop culture. I’m sorry if a reference offended you in any way.

[@DozIT]

William Adams hmm a joke that makes you look like an arrogant asshole...

[@drawmeanelephant69420]

My dad shared an old machinist's saying "A machinist who doesn't deburr his work doesn't wipe his ass either"

[@57thorns]

Maybe if they wipe their ass with their products, they might start to deburr their work?

[@HitLeftistsWithHammers]

This absolutely applies in this case

[@Potti314]

Great surprise with the shim that enables the locks to be taken apart - very cool :-) The comparison was very interesting, I highly appreciate your effort in making these video - they are one of the best out there - thank you :-)

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks so much -- it means more coming from you, since your channel is one of my favorites. As for the shim trick, file it away, because it works on many other shutter locks!

[@dlevi67]

Since the IFAM is Spanish, I believe it's meant to be called "H-uno", or H-1. (I got this wrong; IFAM is a Spanish manufacturer, not Italian; however the lock is still meant to be called H-uno! Thanks to Antonio Oliva for the correction, and thanks to KZbin for not notifying me at all of any of the replies until Comic Strider's)

[@eliasbouhout1]

Yeah, you can see on the lock that H (acca) and the uno are separate,so it's H-1

[@antoineolivier1287]

IFAM is a Spanish maker. Initial h is always silent in Spanish.

[@sohamsengupta6470]

@@antoineolivier1287 That makes sense cause uno was Spanish the last time I checked

[@krakir3242]

@@sohamsengupta6470 uno is also Italian :)

[@sohamsengupta6470]

@@krakir3242 Wait what? What's the rest of the numbers in Italian?

[@BenjWarrant]

Every time I watch one of this guy's videos I am freshly startled at how easy locks can be rendered pointless.

[@Jukka85]

You sound like you just got out of bed. :D Lots more energy in newer vids. Love your stuff man.

[@Movie2Documentary]

Do you sell your energymeter? What brand is it?

[@NPCSN]

Movie2Documentary It’s the “edgy-smart-ass-9000” Amazon prime qualified and everything. Just use the discount code “sarcasm” for 10% off. 😂

[@MyAltdraco]

I love how you take the time to make a longer rod to fix the bad lock. You just can't help yourself to try to make it better!

[@Steel-Pinnings]

Well, never fails me to learn something that I didn't know before when I watch your videos. Lol I figured this one had the same thing that the master had so I was thinking just another variation of it. But I must say thank you for sharing your disassembly of these locks I have one I have always wanted to re-pin and now I can. Thanks again

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks... the disassembly trick is really useful because it works on quite a few shutter locks. Good luck with your repining!

[@ThisIsAVeryBadIdea]

Mmm, cast iron to lubricate your drill with graphite as you break in.

[@shanghaichase7784]

Your videos are the best! I laugh when I see some of the locks you have reviewed in stores. Thanks for the consistent high quality.

[@SniperSly]

the fact that he had to make a better part so the lock wouldn't fall apart says a lot about the quality

[@tonyholt90]

wow that was unbelievable piece of crap. pins close to, or below shear line, unbelievable. and did notice the quality as soon as you removed the plug.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Yes, this lock was "special" ... in a short bus sort of way.

[@DoctorX17]

@@lockpickinglawyer oof, and I thought that spring was the only thing you were gonna wreck on this lock... Savage

[@bertblankenstein3738]

Why?! Why are the driver pins so tiny? To save weight?

[@stefanfrankel8157]

@@bertblankenstein3738 Same reason, I suspect, that Chinese shoes are smaller than standard. Saves material and thus money.

[@Dalrae]

"we're going to rake this guy open" Doesn't sound good.

[@jrondyer1049]

A wonderful example of Chinese reverse engineering, done by someone who didn't understand or care about the details.

[@nurzhan3269]

Yeah, but who cares since both of them are almost equally easy to open while Italian is x10 expensive

[@patrykapiezo1650]

Quite the opposite. They looked at already existing design and made it even easier for LPL to lockpick, which is a win for us all.

[@loktom4068]

It's the buyer. The bottom line is $.

[@brunesi]

Oh, they understand and care very much, buy they also are very precise about cost/profit ratio. They could provide you one with kriptonite level security, if you are willing to buy 100.000 units and for the price point they tell you to. They just are reckless traders.

[@Andrea-wr5wd]

@@nurzhan3269 the chinese one could be opened by any amateur,the italian one requires someone good at picking this guy can open almost any lock within seconds,lasting 30 secs in the hands of someone that good it's a good result in my opinion

[@danielroglich3309]

Thanks for the review brother. Looking forward to the next 800 videos till I'm caught up ! Great job picking as well!

[@scorchedearth1451]

A lock saying "Top Security" is like a car that looks like a Ferrari, that has stickers saying "Extremely Fast" on the doors. The lock is probably not that secure, and the car not that fast.

[@roysammons2445]

Isn't that what they call a Skeleton Core? I believe to make the lock as cheap as possible and can cause difficulty when gutting if you don't use a shim.

[@xaiano794]

8:10 - am I understanding this right - that 3 of those pins are actually useless, because with the key out they aren't actually resisting turning of the lock at all?

[@yozenfrogurt09]

Yep! The only thing locking those chambers is the spring 😬

[@olivialambert4124]

Pretty much. There's a small chance the pins are in the way but theres also the very real chance the lock can be forced and the springs mangled. If picking in the wild one can expect a prepared picker to try and force the lock every so often to bend the springs. If the lock wasn't raked so incredibly quickly anyway. All in all a completely half assed design from someone who doesn't understand lock security more than your average youtube viewer.

[@Django45]

I am here from the future video 842. Hi! Wow, he even fixed the knock-off core so it holds together. What a legend! That wire over pins to hold together...no words!

[@JamieCurrant]

What I got from this is the Huno's main line of defence is the possibility of being so charming that the lockpicker might decide to leave it

[@JessHull]

The Huno is such a cool looking look. I really fancy shutter style locks. When you pulled out that amazon special dimple rake it made me chuckle because I have that exact same set of picks with those odd greenish turquoise colored handles. It was the first kit I purchased when I first started picking lo those several months ago.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

I'm a huge fan of the Huno (and, more generally, shutter locks), but wish so badly that I could slip in a tougher core. I understand that there are a limited number of people who can open it in a reasonable amount of time... but annoys me that this lock is accessible to anyone who is will to put in the practice time. CEN 5? LOL. As for the picks, those huge sets of Chinese picks are good for one thing -- experimenting with lots of different profiles for very little money. Many of the picks will make no sense, until you happen across some oddball Chinese lock for which it is perfect. This is a great example of that. That dimple rake is workless for 99% of the dimple locks out there, but it opens this one in under 10 seconds every time.

[@pickbeard2690]

Thanks for sharing the disassembly I. Have never seen one taken apart before.👍👍😎🍻😘

[@lockpickinglawyer]

No problem. I figured this out a while ago, and have since found that it works on quite a few shutter locks.

[@squilliam.919]

3:33 Turn On Subtitles “It Really Can’t Be Raped” oof

[@fur_avery]

Wait so what he was saying actually

[@georgiykireev9678]

@@fur_avery raked.

[@ElTovarish]

@@georgiykireev9678 Oh.

[@СергейПетров-ь7ч9щ]

I do like your videos) I can watch them at double speed and understand everything)))))))))))

[@tommypetraglia4688]

Yea. I'm here from 1174 and it's like this was edited at a slower speed.

[@kotzpenner]

tbh the original looked kinda easy to pick for an experienced lockpick. Are there any good locks?

[@japascho]

Very few 😂 but just try it your self it's far from easy for normal people

[@tabbybull4096]

the thing is most people use brute force not picking so look for a more beefy lock. although if you put a beefy lock on your wooden door or near a window, youre just going to lose the door or window.

[@ivan_pozdeev_u]

There were a few security pins there that would be a roadblock for a less skilled picker.

[@AaronHahnStudios]

LOL, when Anything brags "High Quality" or "Top Securiity" it isn't!! Like batteries that Brag "Heavy Duty" - they're going to fail you.

[@experimentalarmy4495]

After watching your video, picking a lock is look like a piece of cake....... gr8 stuff

[@horatioyen256]

got to say numbering your videos is super helpful

[@KelikakuCoutin]

Came here from video [1174] Two Pound Lock Picked in Two Seconds (Santiao Shutter Lock). Thanks for the great content. Keep up the good work. בס״ד

[@donnierobertson3088]

Great job and video like always

[@reekymirror6764]

I can imagine that every time there is a break - in near his home area, that the police will make a journey straight to his house before considering any other suspects

[@NPCSN]

“Alright man, you know the drill”

[@sh4dy832]

Alright, we're finished here, they found out the lock had been broken up with brute force. Have a nice day, sir.

[@reekymirror6764]

@@sh4dy832 who’s this aimed towards

[@warmike]

well, his website states that he works with the police on security, so he will probably be employed as an expert

[@metocvideo]

As of 080819, these locks, as lots of similar ones with wired Chinese brand names are still on sale in Amazon, but not on the “Amazon Basics” list. The biggest selling point of all of them is the weight, so as always, “Caveat Emptor” which means “ let the buyer beware”.

[@lyszaod89]

Did you make that tension wrench yourself, it looks substantial!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

It cam in a HUK dimple kit. The picks were crap and never got used, but this has become one of my favorite dimple tension tools.

[@lostandfound1004]

Nice vid, quality vs. junk lock. Another thumbs up from me!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thank you.

[@sdbszz706]

How is one junk over the other when they’re both relatively easy to open. Who ever would have these tools could most likely do it as fast as this guy. It’s basically junk lock vs slightly more valuable junk lock

[@realityjunky]

Yay!!! The comparison!! Thank you!

[@JONSLOCKPICKING]

Nice one. I wasn't bothered about the picking side. More how to take them apart. Cool trick with the shim. Thanks..

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks -- I figured that trick out when I first got the Huno. It works on a fair number of other shutter locks.

[@ben_jammin242]

Are the driver pins the way they "are" from being die molded? Seems like the easiest way to get that rounded tip and the hollow core for the spring...

[@GuyXVIII]

"just so you see it wasn't an accident..." everyone: FLUKE!

[@stmarkus112]

*Comparison video* "I'm not going to open this lock because I like it" Ok thanks mister

[@Kirisame312]

It does hurt the credibility of this video in my view. I had no doubts that the Chinese lock was of inferior quality before watching. After he repeatedly refused to attempt attacks against the Italian lock, it created doubts... I'd be won over if LPL: 1. Demonstrated the difficulty of raking the Italian lock 2. Showed us the pins inside the Italian lock I'm just gonna avoid both in the meantime. Seems like the only way to get a quality lock is to buy a sturdy one and then custom-pin the core.

[@JaakkoF]

Considering the core is cast, it is not at all strange shape. It comes from the die casting requirements of having a part that is mostly just one thickness or at least avoiding thick cross sections, as they tend to cool last and will pull the surrounding, already solidified material inward, thus creating voids, cracks, porosity and malformed parts. The other very good reason is cooling time - less metal, less time to cool and get it out of the mold, thus speeding production considerably. And with less metal the part doesn't cost as much. Should this method be used in a place like this? Almost without a doubt no, but it is an interesting way of making the part and in some other cases makes sense to cast almost net shape and only machine what is needed (like the Abloy PL3020 padlock body, cast brass but the inside is machined). Thanks for the interesting video!

[@teslacoiler]

Still a pretty good quality for the price (These locks cost around 5 euros in Italy) :-D

[@almightypatty4943]

The thick ring-shaped shackle guards, what do they do? I'm confused as they are different widths, and do not cover the entire bolt.

[@ZeronXL]

After watching maybe 350-400 LPL videos, I've desided that if I need any kind of lock I'm going to make it myself, including features from all locks that made LPL pick them for more than 1 minute, I think that it will be trully unpickable lock. Except for LPL and Bill probably :-D

[@5PctJuice]

My algorithm has a weird sense of humor. Sends me from a calm-voiced guy eating MREs at a POV shot to a calm-voiced guy picking locks at a POV shot.

[@Slugbunny]

Interesting spring self-destruct mechanism!

[@GuillermoSTD]

I never understood why so many people get cheap products like this thinking they're saving a lot of money, when in truth the majority of the time they're getting crap. Sure, there are also some quality things designed and made in China, but normally when you buy something that costs less than half of what a quality product should cost, it's because there's not even a little bit of care put into it.

[@thefinder8087]

I wonder what locks LPL uses on his home doors?

[@christophersheffield9574]

Kwikset basic bitch he modified for a dollar so that a lock picker that doesn’t know any better will brick the lock trying to open it.

[@ChristianW1975]

You sound like a dentist, when you open the Huno 😁 Great video !

[@Kinosaurus]

Hallmark of a Chines lock "Top security".

[@RangieNZ]

Similar to "HEAVY DUTY" cast into tools...

[@一个说话大声的中国人]

You get what you pay. Smart winners buy American made. Stupid losers buy Chinese made.

[@NPCSN]

So THATS how the virus got out. Somebody stabbing away at a “high security” lock with a muddy stick. 😂😂

[@Osama.Saab.90]

Please answer my question, I want to open and close the lock without its original key in another key

[@justingauche6475]

I'd lock up my power wheel with it. Love that thing.

[@wl357]

Who makes the z bar tension wrench and the dimple rake?

[@japascho]

Just Google. There was an interview wer he listet all his go to tools

[@icemancuber236]

I’m here from the futur video 1174 to be exact :)

[@brilum1111]

Hey I'am new at this and wanted to ask. That tool you used to rake chinese lock, how it is called and did you bought it or made it yourself?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

The rake is from a cheap set of Klom picks... made in China, of course. They are not great picks, but the large sets give you a wide variety of profiles with which to experiment.

[@kid5rowck]

Is there anything you cant lockpick???

[@Pyxis10]

An active maglock?

[@Straightfromthehorsesmouth]

Elephants 🙂

[@Osama.Saab.90]

What is the name of the equipment you use to open the lock? Please answer

[@rothgo4825]

As far as I know, the original IFAM lock that LockPickingLawyer is comparing with, it´s not Italian but Spanish. Here below you have the IFAM company address written in Basque Language. @t Etxagibel Notari Jauna Kalea, 4, 20500 Arrasate, Gipuzkoa (Spain)

[@dbaider9467]

He's John Malkovich. I'm certain.

[@royparsons5757]

I was waiting for this comment 👍

[@NPCSN]

Damn it. Now every time I hear his voice i see John Malkovich. 😂

[@daewooparts]

I kept all the Huno locks when my friend closed his korean supermarket a decade ago & just left cheapo locks 🔒 on the gates

[@828enigma6]

I have a FJM that came with a Connex I bought. Looks better that the Chinese copy, thought mine appears better made. Any comments?

[@mechathanos5444]

Where did you get that dimple rake at

[@philbertshevitz3113]

So are there ANY good locks out there? If so, which are the good ones?

[@brianhignett8954]

Hi Harry, This business of too shorter drivers has become a pet hate with me. The girls/guys on the assembly lines, I'm sure, don't understand the ramifications of this problem. The key works O.K., move on to the next one! Picking shows up the problem, and so will the wrong key that is close. We are seeing this in key in knob locks from China. The drivers in one lock will be O.K. Next one the pin holes in the plug will be drilled slightly deeper - not by much - and with the key removed, one two or more drivers are level or below the shearline. Original key works fine. The lock you showed with the cupped drivers, makes you wonder do they make longer cupped drivers? I guess they should. Well explained and demonstrated. Regards, Brian.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

I'm right there with you on this one, but it shouldn't surprise us. Put in perspective, it's really one of the most minor security flaws in most Chinese locks (the one that gets me the most is parts marked "Hardened" that are not). It is, however, one of the most annoying to me as a picker!

[@johnrich6928]

I have a different version of the cheap one, less than £10 from Amazon with 10, TEN! keys, to try to dimple pick, discovered actually that I could pick it, and rake it with a wiper insert tensioner., still, first dimple to try, for the cost....worth it.

[@benlambert9249]

Can this lock be picked whilst on a container unit with a lock box cover.

[@Terranova339]

Doesnt brass melt better than cast iron ?

[@Johnyrocket70]

did you try bypass and shimming it open?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Yes. No go.

[@Johnyrocket70]

+LockPickingLawyer is there any video of a mul t lock interactive plus sidebar

[@lockpickinglawyer]

JB I don't think there is any such thing. Can you show me what lock you are talking about. I've never heard of an interactive (or interactive+) with a sidebar.

[@majorzbzzn]

Oh god, I hate those ribbed cores. I have several locks with stuck core after trying to disassemble them. Whats worse is that they make the ribs at the exact distance of the diameter of the pin so once it gets stuck in there nothing will pull it out :(

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Yup, that's happened to me also... VERY frustrating!

[@Baierunjin]

As a child I picked my bicycle lock with scissors. Lucky nobody has tried to steal it.

[@loktom4068]

Never mind the ease of picking part. If the cast iron cylinder one and the original one were both exposed to harsh weather for long period of time and you know which one is going to be hard to open by the owner.

[@mikemullenix6956]

I wonder if you can change cores with Italian one

[@ankitrathore9346]

Is there any lock you can't open?

[@n40798]

Are the cores and shackles interchangeable?

[@TheDantheman12121]

How do you know when it is a false set?

[@edvardantonsn6287]

Can you pick the sobo d shaped padlocks?

[@kipchickensout]

i found a simple padlock lying around but it's a no. 80/30 from BERAM and I can't find anything about that company online

[@gregs7519]

That cast iron core will be a rusty mess once it's on a container travelling across the salty oceans...

[@loktom4068]

Try picking it open after long exposure to the harsh weather. It will become one piece and stuck . Afterwards it's high security because everything will be all seized up. Good luck even with a key.

[@tommypetraglia4688]

Play back at 1.25x speed for normal LPL

[@youssefhatem4568]

Kid:mom I want an IFAM lock Mom:we have IFAM lock at home IFAM lock at home:

[@JonatasAdoM]

One says it is secure, the other just is.

[@loktom4068]

Believe or not. Once both exposed to harsh weather for long time. That cheap one will become high security. Why? Everything inside the cheap one would all seized up. Yes even with the keys can't unlock it.

[@majorzbzzn]

I could use some of those cup shaped pins. What is the diameter (in mm) of those?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Dear lord, what for? These things are super cheap. Can probably be crushed by torqueing the plug.

[@majorzbzzn]

Pick my Schlage, the answer is inside :)

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Boris Kozo Fair enough. Also, you need to think about how you tape keys onto the locks. I can't get them steady in the vice. I may have to take the keys off (but not unwrap) to get a steady hold on it!

[@majorzbzzn]

Err... I thought you were suppose to take them off before putting in the vice (Bosnian Bill usually does). Also, you may want to check that the keys work (see my email)...

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Oh, I assumed that was part of the key wrapping. I didn't want to break the tamper seal... with those markings.

[@Skyliner_369]

I'm half considering making a lock company that doesn't sell whole locks, but instead sells very, very pick/manipulation resistant lock cores. To consumers and maybe to companies.

[@NoctisMotus]

Very thorough. Thank you.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks.

[@Osama.Saab.90]

How are you, sir? If you try this method, the lock can be closed in the same way

[@fablan3308]

Where did you get your rake from

[@dfeuer]

Why wouldn't the Huno be designed to allow rekeying? That seems unfortunate.

[@arposkraft3616]

@8:45 ... this lockcore is mahined so badly that i had to improve it before picking it

[@johnofalltrades9581]

Couldn't that Chinese copy be repinned with quality pins and springs to make a halfway decent lock? for 1/20th the cost of the Huno?

[@neutronalchemist3241]

If used in the open, the cast iron core will rust anyway, and a good part of the cost of a quality lock is exactly the cost of the quality pins, spools, springs etc. and the time taken to install them into the core. Cheap products are cheap because they can be manufactured quickly.

[@DijonFromage]

AvE would describe the machining on that lock as "Looks like an apprentice went at 'er with a dull beaver."

[@عمادمصطفى-ذ3غ]

Where i can find this tools in algeria

[@GOLVEL]

Don't really care about the locks... just find it all extremely relaxing.

[@rebmcr]

Video [1174] bois reporting in:

[@brycecohoon]

11 MINUTES HOLY COW

[@Johnyrocket70]

which shackle hole is tighter

[@lockpickinglawyer]

I didn't check, but one was in desperate need of some deburring... it looked like it had already been drilled with a very dull tool. :-P

[@mitchd949]

This guy is my hero!

[@low-keyobserver8539]

I have not seen a dimple rake like that since this video.