[1616] Unity’s “Anti-Pick” Disc Lock… Picked.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Act now if you want to take advantage of the best prices of the year at CovertInstruments.com … including deals on products that we have never put on sale before! We only run two big sales a year, so after we shut this one down on December 2, you will not see prices this good again until July 4!

[@LockPickingTeen]

Please, ship to more places

[@mhughes1160]

Dad always said that “ locks keep honest people honest.” Lock picking and a lawyer 🤔 Yelp dad was right . LoL 😂 Happy Thanksgiving. 👍

[@idkidk4334]

Looks like you need the covert companion tape extension for locks like this😂

[@pinpetos]

Are your tools made in the US?

[@zscske]

​@@edewaal97 it was the same for me, i used the notify me when its on stock and next day i get lucky... For a minute because they don't ship to Hungary 😅

[@sonic2000gr]

He took more time to explain about the shutter than actually picking 'the high precision anti pick cylinder'

[@jeffy210]

I always thought "high precision" just meant easier to pick since it was more definitive. Try it with a lock that's gummed up from seeing the elements for years and it too tight against what it's holding

[@tatatatartine2588]

as usual 😅

[@davidp2888]

"Usually I would try to rake something like this." That tells me all I need to know about this lock.

[@Oufman92i]

The company will be like "It was for sure a fluke"

[@its_clean]

"A fluke is one of the most common fish in the sea. So if you go fishing for a fluke, chances are you just might catch one."

[@absolutmauser]

Nah they know what they are selling

[@Colaman112]

@@absolutmauser Nah, must be a fluke, he couldn't do it twice.

[@JohnCothren-l4c]

​@@Colaman112can't never could, he didn't do it a second time.

[@ImKinoNichtSabbeln]

More like: "Ha! We defeated the wave rake!"

[@michaelpolakowski7301]

Implied tip: cut a thin piece of electrical tape and stick it to the side of the Covert Companion to upgrade it to a CC+.

[@Squirl513]

This.

[@DevashishGulati]

That would be an extra 50 dollars, please.

[@miaudottk9080]

what if you just bend that slide out of the way?

[@RickshawMunky]

The real art here is creating a three minute video around a 3 second attack.

[@pffyespff]

I was hoping that there will be a 2. attack in the end by raking, but no.

[@nothingsurprisesmeanymore]

Well it was a two minute fifty six second advert so the real art is conning people into not knowing they are just watching an advert 😅 and he's good at that.😂

[@amandaklapp1171]

With no carrot.

[@SlimStarCraft]

no real art is creating a three minute video around A product he sells

[@Islacrusez]

My man, LPL could talk about a phone book for an hour and we’d tune in to listen.

[@RaynosFAA777]

You might be able to wedge a carrot between the shutter and lock body to help keep it open🥕

[@YuriyNasretdinov]

The anti-carrot shutter prevents that particular trick from happening

[@joshuadalton6063]

@@YuriyNasretdinov Also the rabbit guarding the soviet locks

[@david-polak]

“And all I have is my everyday carry covert companion.” … “And thousands of hours picking locks”

[@everseeker]

he could pick a lock with a thumbnail and a sledge hammer...

[@andersjjensen]

If it is any consolation to you, I'm an amateur picker who no longer picks even every week, and I'm about as fast as LPL on these 5 pinners with no security pins. You simply can't do it much faster than that. Where his skill shines is in high security locks but he rarely features those.

[@EmeraldHill-vo1cs]

@@andersjjensen Out of curiosity does that include wafer? I'm a noob.

[@andersjjensen]

@@EmeraldHill-vo1cs I don't have experience with wafer locks personally, but by reputation they are quite easy to pick.

[@mascan7905]

"3 minutes, not that bad." *Spends half the video hawking the Covert Companion*

[@objective_psychology]

The actual picking took about 10 seconds lmao

[@cipherthevcuber]

Half the time talking about the lock you mean. Another third, explaining what tools to use, how and promoting said tool

[@Dr_Wrong]

So what? I already bought one. Muhahahaha

[@urgetodrive]

and the other half talking about the spring loaded shutter... lol.

[@LadyDeirdre]

I just timed it: start to finish, the actual picking took twenty seconds.

[@MoePoe777]

The LPL has such a calm and soothing narration as he deftly defeats lock technology. Always happy to se a new video.

[@justsayen2024]

I know like a pilot😐 Ahh you might feel a little turbulence... ahhh 😲😟😩😫✈🛩

[@xitaris5981]

That's why his April Fools videos are so hilarious. Ridiculous content delivered in a professional deadpan

[@gregk.7272]

I se what you did there.

[@scorch33]

When I saw the time on this video I thought: Oh, this might present a bit of a challenge. Now I see that this 3:09 video was 3 minutes of dialogue and 9 seconds of picking.

[@andrewharrison8436]

My takeaway is that to increase video run time bad lock companies should release locks during the sale season and include some feature for LPL to talk about.

[@tmg7476]

Is there a 'good' lock company?

[@someoneelse4811]

​​@@tmg7476Bowley is the best in terms of pick resistance, but you're not going to find their design on a cheap padlock.

[@mmburgess11]

For the Holidays, LPL should come out with some toys for the kiddos...."Baby's first lock pick" featuring a real MasterLock (with a plastic wave rake) and of course, the much sought after picture book, "101 uses for a carrot" for the parents.

[@gatherer818]

After "eat them", "pick locks with them", and "snowman nose", I'm REALLY worried about the other uses.

[@tanostrelok2323]

@@gatherer818 What about feeding pets with them?

[@CaTastrophy427]

@@tanostrelok2323 falls under eating Unless you're feeding them to your wife's beaver. That's a special case.

[@airo30]

The "pick" in anti-pick is maybe a synonym for select or choose, and therefor it means to choose another lock in the shop.

[@ahvavee]

You can pick your friends and you can pick a lock but you can also pick your friends lock.

[@metalzonemt-2]

All I've ever picked is my nose.

[@ahvavee]

@ me too! But you can’t pick your friends nose.

[@jdotoz]

But only with permission

[@barrysimmons5489]

​@@metalzonemt-2not yer friend's nose? 🫣

[@vadnegru]

Wait... That's illegal 😮

[@daburgerbandit1598]

"For a small keyway like this, the short hook is almost certainly the way to go." I'd love to see a video on what tool to choose when; When should I use a quad rake or a quint rake? Short or medium hooks? Any of the funky profiles in the Reaper set? My friend got locked out, and I was struggling with his door with a short hook for a while. Switched to a medium hook just to try something different and it came open quickly.

[@EmeraldHill-vo1cs]

And my intro set only had a triple rake?

[@KevinJCoburn]

Is there an upcoming tape dispenser expansion to the Covert Companion?

[@-Jethro-]

A well prepared picker could keep one or two small pieces of tape stuck to the sides of the Covert Companion.

[@mmburgess11]

That and an optional carrot function would be nice.

[@JosiahBradley]

Sticky stuff questions are probably best for McNally

[@olsmokey]

And this sticky tape dispensor is one that Bosnian Bill and I made.

[@marckoolwijk2913]

The only way he would get caught picking locks that he shouldn't is when he can't resist the habit to identify with "This is the lock picking lawyer" at midnight in front of a home.

[@tcpratt1660]

Actually, what would get LPL caught is his habit of picking the lock twice, to show it wasn't a fluke...

[@vincentcloud]

You forget the time he picked a hand reader in a government facility. I thought he was going teach us how disabled guards with the covert companion

[@marckoolwijk2913]

@@tcpratt1660 true that.

[@NivisTigridis]

Security is LAYERS, LPL just explained that for locks! Now apply that to everything that you need to secure and you can be amaze how much a little change can cause the highest security bump.

[@tanostrelok2323]

I too shall complain over the lack of carrots on this video 🥕🥕🥕

[@liliya_aseeva]

I suppose that he actually tries to master opening those soviet locks from that previous video by carrot, and when he fully masters this art, he would release a video. He only learned about this style of attack recently, so he needs to practice it a bit to produce more clear video.

[@methox85]

@@liliya_aseeva please elaborate, you peeked my curiosity 0_0

[@pickleeater3102]

​@methox85 a little bit ago, he picked a Soviet Era lock, and said it could probably be picked with a carrot. Ever since then, every comment section has been clamoring for the 'carrot pick'.

[@UnknownUser-fe5zu]

At this point I don’t think we are going to get it ☹️

[@jpendowski7503]

Nice explanation. Missed the second ‘fluke’ pick. However your demonstration of your tool made it worth the watch.

[@dylanknight4752]

I got my Black Friday purchase today. Shipping was quick! The stuff is quality man. As a car guy who has an obsession with quality tools and quality products, just feeling your tools and the learn to pick lock is quality. The price is definitely totally fair

[@GarthGoldberg]

At storage units, thieves just break the hinges on the doors.

[@Winston-lf7sb]

a battery powered metal grinder is always very fast

[@Hadar1991]

I, while eating a carrot, am very disappointed that this video those not feature any carrots. :(

[@weswheel4834]

And "Covert Carrot" would be a great brand name LPL! Althought tbf, maybe the carrot was so covert that we didn't notice it.

[@gedd6750]

LPL is all talk around carrots 🥕 and locks 🔒

[@exeggcutertimur6091]

Give us the carrot lockpick!! (maybe it doesnt actually work?)

[@duncanluciak5516]

​@@exeggcutertimur6091I hope he's working on it.

[@Smona]

"unpickable" locks are about as unpickable as the titanic was unsinkable

[@jamesslick4790]

ANY lock with a keyway (keyhole) is pickable and ALL ships are sinkable.

[@christopherreed4723]

It's easy to make a lock un-pickable. Unfortunately, soldering or welding the cylinder shut and/or in place also makes it un-openable. And doesn't proof it against attacks on structural weak points like the drain holes on American Lock products.

[@handpaper6871]

If you use low temperature solder, and the lock can withstand a bit of blowtorch action, that would definitely work.​@@christopherreed4723

[@forrestegan]

Just watched your SAINTCON keynote from 3 years ago…really enjoyed it, thanks for the info and entertainment.

[@garrymcgaw4745]

You never cease to amaze me with your picking skills. Cheers from Australia 🦘🦘👍.

[@Chr.U.Cas1622]

Dear LPL. 👍👌👏 Oh WOW, simply fantastic again and as always. I absolutely love the chosen Emoji on the title photo. Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing. Best regards, luck and health in particular.

[@brendantaylor6879]

"Everday carry Covert Companion"... Walking around town with a lock pick set every day. As one does

[@j.robertsergertson4513]

Lol,he just walks around randomly picking locks

[@T4Slipped]

Can’t leave home without it!

[@f308gtb1977]

I bought a Lishi from Covert last week and when it came in I picked the deadbolt on my front door a few times, that thing is COOL. 10/10, would recommend. Teaching my son to use it too. Thanks LPL!

[@dustinhamilton3175]

I would love to see the lock picking lawyer at the pearly gates of heaven. "Nothing on one, two, three is binding, nice click out of four and we are in".

[@jrharbortproductions]

I came across a nearly identical lock that was branded "Defense²". It had a very hefty weight that made it feel like it was secure. But the core offered nothing in the way of security and fell just as quickly as this one did.

[@mchenrynick]

The audio: I noticed that he's using some sort of auto-voluming recording equipment. Whenever he clicks or snaps the lock, the audio gets very quiet briefly. This reminds me how our cassette recorder was back in the 80s.

[@person86422]

Maybe that's instructions telling you not to pick it. It's sort of like a "gun free zone" sign. obviously, everyone follows those rules.

[@volvo09]

Yeah just put a sign next to the lock saying no lock picking or lock tampering allowed. Everyone will stay away from your lock.

[@kiloftd]

generally when guns are restricted from an area people do not bring them in, yes. especially if there is security in place to prevent that. but tell us more about how laws don't work. you want criminals to be able to bring guns anywhere and have no punishment?

[@Rockethead293]

@@kiloftd That is not what they are saying. They are COMPARING, not MOCKING, "No Weapon" signs.

[@adre2194]

​@@kiloftdreading comprehension

[@GolumTR]

@@kiloftdThe meme against gun free zones always fails to mention that the signs are at, like, elementary schools. There’s no valid reason to bring a gun to an elementary school. Of course there are laws about what you can bring to the one place that has one adult supervisor per thirty children. I’d go so far to say they are … “triggered”

[@nyc2awp]

When he mentioned the rake, it was game over for me. However, he picked it single pin. Nice. Classy.

[@David_Crayford]

Get the feeling Masterlock could double the time it takes to open them just by fitting a spring-loaded cover.

[@benjaminkaufman3914]

One of the only forms of ad I enjoy watching!

[@jeremyhanna3852]

On those type of shutter see if u can find a pull tab from a soda can and press it tight to the lock body next to the shutter force the shutter over it and it will usually stay open

[@Hey_Its_That_Guy]

Took longer to get the tools out than it did to pick the lock... 😮🤣

[@tbw357]

You can also hold the cover open with your pointer finger to open up the keyway. Easy rake.

[@abortedlord]

Watching you zip through these locks is always satisfying. I'm trying to catch up. So far I've gotten three "in the wild" ( all legal of course, requests by owners who lost keys. )

[@BlueAsterismSolstice]

Note to self. If I ever make a lock, shutters add +2 pick resistance.

[@andersjjensen]

Shutter: +2 Stupid hard return spring on the core: +10 Adding spool pins: +15 Adding serrated pins: +25 Going to 6 pins: +100 Going from 6 pins to 7: +250 Manufacturing the whole thing with incredibly tight tolerances: +1000

[@BlueAsterismSolstice]

@@andersjjensen how does steel or harder than average springs for the pins, or a drill protection tally?

[@andersjjensen]

@@BlueAsterismSolstice Pin springs of varying strength can throw of a novice picker, so probably also +5, and it certainly helps against bump keys and snap guns. The rest is against destructive attacks (obviously) so they don't really get a level up in this listing :P

[@keithrichards1507]

Gonna have to order a new one. Mine was stolen out of my truck about a month ago thankfully I had not upgraded it yet and it was just the basic package.

[@user-tv1td5ow4b]

I dont think theres another level of chill. He IS the chill guy.

[@Pfisiar22]

thing is that a low security option like this is adequate for storage units on a site guarded by gates that require a code and that have security cameras. The lock on the unit is not the primary security option. What's galling is the advertising making false claims.

[@JerryB507]

20 seconds from applying tension to lock opened. This lock is impressive, Master Lock impressive.

[@KnightRanger38]

There has been at least one videos showing a lock that would have opened by applying the tension.

[@FormulaZR]

Happy Thanksgiving, LPL

[@mittfh]

Manufacturer: "anti-pick" LPL: "Translation: only a token effort at any kind of security whatsoever... And we're in!"

[@jasonedwards4981]

I didn't spring for the Covert Companion but I did just buy my first lock picking set, the Genesis to learn with!

[@treeguyable]

Been about a year since any lpl vids popped up in my vids.Forgot all about them. Xmas day, he just popped into my head, looked up this vid. Amazing how insignificant we all are to each other.

[@craigw1911]

Now all LPL needs to do is introduce the "Carrot Companion" and an add-on, with bonus tape dispenser for shutter-equipped locks. 🥕

[@AJIngram]

Great video as always you should pick it like it is being used 😂😂😂

[@hiimemily]

It's "anti-pick" in the same way that a typical door is "anti-intruder".

[@vadnegru]

Deters 9/10 people

[@syjwg]

Goddammit! I've spent more time with my key trying to get this type of locks opened. 😮

[@robertwestrom6878]

You make it look effortless

[@aaronatstate]

1:01 Curious what kind of normal day is for LPL and that he'd be coming across locks like this?

[@BrorAppelsin]

I don't know, but I'd like it to be like his April 1st videos!

[@PlutoTheSynth]

1:04 why would a set of lockpicking instruments be an everyday carry? especially one that thiccc

[@SurferKiller]

When there's the laughing and pointing emoji in the thumbnail, you know the video is going to be good

[@Stonka1]

I've been convinced for years he puts a subtle wobbly sound effect on the word 'lawyer' in the intro

[@Free-Bodge79]

Brilliant 👌 our mans a genius 🙏👊👍

[@Hiccupsinator]

You know it's a good video when LockPickingLawyer puts a 😂 emoji on the thumbnail

[@valkrieknights]

I've always thought that having something to occupy one of the pickers hands would make things a good amount more secure. My idea has always been a shutter that you can only open by squeezing the sides in some way that doesn't allow a picker to apply tension

[@mapgeek6]

In a reflection of what just about everything has become these days, it's not what something *IS* , it's what you *CALL* it. People will believe anything these days. That's why these manufacturers don't bother making things right. It's much easier to just call it something and rake in the sales.

[@reverse_engineered]

It's especially prevalent when you have no way to prove otherwise. A locksmith or enthusiast can play with a lock and tell you how good it really is, but how would the average person know about the lock they buy and take home? If you never had a break in, does that mean it's good? If someone smashed it open with a hammer, does that mean it's bad? The vast majority of people have no way of knowing if it's actually working well. For those kinds of products, you'd usually have a body of experts who would offer reviews and advice, but aside from some activists on social media, meaningful reviews are almost nonexistent. Compare that to how many people review computer hardware, TVs, and vacuum cleaners. It also doesn't help that, like many other products, lock manufacturers just keep cycling through product numbers. Was last year's model 1768 bad? Well this is a model 1790 that looks the same. Is it better? Worse? The same with a different label? Just keep changing model numbers faster than the reviews come out and there will never be a review ready for the product that the buyer sees on the shelf.

[@jadefalcon001]

"Single pin picking" with 30 seconds left is a BAD sign for the lock.

[@jeffschroeder4805]

I don't suppose that lock manufacturers have ever offered to pay you to help them design or improve their locks? They seem to believe that it is the promises on the packaging that sell their locks rather than the security they offer.

[@lukes2219]

Usually you can wedge is pic between the door and the body to keep it out of the way

[@sytuma]

Spring tension on the cylinder is the most frustrating thing for me. Like a file cabinet lock, ir a badly installed deadbold that is binding up the bolt. Spent more time than i would ever imagine on a silly 5 pin file cabinet lock. Once i was able to apply pressure to lock while picking it went much smoother

[@AM23.]

Who else remembers when LPL used to do longer videos 😭

[@meJaso]

He used to take them apart and showed us how they work. 😢

[@thenerktwins]

Imagine if they weren't all just ads for his company now, they'd be 39 seconds long

[@lukemeck]

You must not watch regularly cause he has done both in the last month 🤦

[@reverse_engineered]

I remember when it was about locks and not about his company's products.

[@kylek6922]

Unity huh. More like: Uknow we just copy MasterLock. 🤣

[@madethisjusttoreplytoyou4916]

I’ve figured out how to make a more pick-resistant lock, and it involves a shuttered keyway that has to be held open to reveal a second shuttered keyway. You need two keys and healthy wrists but it should make standard attacks nearly impossible. Depending on keyway positioning and spring tension for the initial lock, anyway. Lots of KZbin engineers have been trying to redesign the wheel to challenge you these days but I don’t think anyone’s thought of “just make the lock unlock a lock fivehead”

[@LJMpictures]

A long time ago you had a puzzle lock you hadn't defeated, I think it was Australian??? would love to see it done

[@GuitarsRockForever]

I remember that too. It was an Australian lock (special crafted/modified for competition). I remember LPL said he picked it open but not on camera. And when on camera, somehow he couldn't pick it.

[@clownapocalypse8240]

every video is so entertaining

[@edi9892]

Could you please make a video on the most annoying cheap features that make lock picking tedious? Unusual keys, strength required for turning...

[@simonspacek3670]

Strength is one of the best. When the lock gets slightly rusty and you struggle to open it even with the right key, it is hard for picking :D

[@reverse_engineered]

My most difficult lock is my cheapest. The pins and the cylinder have such rough finishes that everything is binding constantly. It's as if every pin is a serrated pin. It can even be difficult to turn the actual key sometimes! Of course, being such a cheap lock, you can also just use a hook to reach through the core and pull on the bar to the shackle, so really no reason to pick it.

[@tmango78]

Just picked up a Companion as well as a few Lishis! I just wish it had a turning tool built in without having to buy another item.

[@melk100]

Considering the prices of locks in this day and age, it's more lucrative to pick other peoples locks.

[@Ovetupp]

I would be so confused if someone took the lock of my bike and left the bike.

[@airo30]

Picking seems way faster than making a spare key, in case you loose your key...

[@efnissien]

I agree with your summary about anything that slows someone up being a good thing. I tell clients 'There's no such thing as impermeable security. If legit people can get in, then illegit can too.' Even seemingly insignificant details, like keeping the outside of the building lit up like a christmas tree and strategically placed 'bastard trees' can slow down n'er do wells.

[@reverse_engineered]

From experience, I agree. If it's a targeted attack, then people will take the effort to get through whatever, but if it's just a random theft, the most important thing is to be more of a pain than your neighbours. There's no point smashing car windows if some people leave their doors unlocked. You'll stop and think twice if you see a laptop or other expensive electronics out in plain sight. You're way more likely to check out a car or a shed that's dimly lit than one where you are brightly lit in an open area for everyone to see.

[@Torby4096]

I picked a lock for the boss today. "Rats, I don't have the key."

[@StalfoHunter]

What about the lock from the channel Works by Design?

[@britishtechguru]

I can imagine the LPL in ancient times, offering to pick chastity belt locks :p

[@kiralan8578]

"Call the royal locksmith!"

[@DesktopPanda96]

​This is ye Lock Picking Lawyer, and what I have for you today is an offering from Everlast, designed to secure the greatest treasure in all the land...

[@fUtube1212]

Nicely done.

[@demonovationable]

I would like to see LPL build a little set where he can put the lock on a door or latch and have to pick the lock in the position it would be in in real life use. Like, how fast could he pick if he couldn't just hold the lock upside down to tension the way he wants? Would be a good comparison of "optimal VS. realistic" pick times.

[@maxdon2001]

Great video!

[@Marinealver]

I might have to pick up another one after mine got stolen from my car when all the windows got smashed while I was at work.

[@bluewave7120]

Love the shutter

[@fgsfds89]

Dunno if shutter on this lock was intended to prevent picking, but at least it messes pretty good with LPL's camera (or sowtware) automatic sound volume adjustment.

[@xpndblhero5170]

I have one of these on my shed and it's hard enough to open w/ the key so I know it's pretty secure.... 😂

[@christophermccutcheon2143]

The shield makes me think the ultimate lock might just be those same kind of pins, but a little face shield that only the key can push through. So the key opens the face and goes through that into the lock. That way you can't both hold the shield open _and_ fit your pick behind it. Essentially whatever you use to hold the shield open would block the entry of the pick

[@femain1788]

This man saw the fusion sword from advant children and said this is how I will design my picking tool set

[@PenAirPilot]

If these pick guards become more common, one could cut some thing strips of tape and place them on the side of your CC, kind of like how campers and hikers will wrap their nalgene bottles with a few wraps of duct tape. Always have some.... doesnt take up much space......

[@simonashtear2739]

That was a good pick. Well done! You made it look super easy. But the way you were holding it made it look easier than probably would have been. If you had encountered a lock like that, attached to something, could you have actually held it in that same position? Is there a, I don't know, a posture guide, for different locks and how to pick them from common positions where you'll find them? A door lock, you could just kneel. A padlock, you can usually pull up and look at. But you were holding that disc lock upside-down. What angle would you be holding yourself if that was on a garage door or storage locker?

[@Viernes13punto5]

I took a sip of my coffee looked back and I had missed it

[@delimiter2886]

I would've liked to see a 2nd go with tape and rake

[@jamesrankin9833]

Good stuff!

[@bjmgeek]

It would be interesting to see you picking locks like this in situ.

[@krabeznazwy2990]

So if there was a key with round middle part, this shutter had a small cut that would match round middle of key, but not allow head of key to pass, user would have to have key inside and shutter closed to open lock, that would provide quite a security in itself? Shutter when hitting middle of key would have it's pin align as well, so shutter would have to be in position of key, if it was full closed or open or broken off it would no longer allow to open lock.

[@jmkqfnvyl87]

“Lets pretend picking locks I come across in my day to day is a completely normal thing-yes I am a lawyer”😅

[@MI_44177]

bro casually mentions a black Friday sale after destroying a lock brand's anti pick reputation

[@highkicker11]

yeah and then you check the website and 99% of stuff is not in stock.

[@Ben-says-you-are-AWESOME]

No carrots were harmed during the making of this video. Will LPL ever demonstrate what tricks he can do with a carrot?!

[@simonmeadows7961]

Wait until the 1st of April next year...

[@bikeny]

@@simonmeadows7961 GMTA.

[@TheQuark6789]

Protip for everyone: Make a tiny roll of gaffer’s tape for your everyday carry. It’s very useful in general.

[@1a1u0g9t4s2u]

The only question I have is how much time will it take to pick when the lock is located in a real world situation? I believe the large job site tool box will offer a better challenge for the LPL. Still enjoy the feedback the LPL shares to challenge the manufacturers to make a better product. Thanks for sharing.