Logan's Run (Welcome To The Basement)

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Run, Runner! Run over to the ol' leather couch, that is, to check out the Sci-fi classic Logan's Run, our second entry in Sci-fi July. It is the only way to find sanctuary.
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Welcome To The Basement" is a show about watching, discussing and having fun with movies. Matt choses the movie and Craig doesn't know what it is until the cameras start rolling, so none of the discussion or riffing is planned ahead of time.
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[@rkgaustin9043]

My favorite part of 'West Side Story' is when Tony runs through Spanish Harlem yelling "MARIA!" and only one girl comes to the window.

[@greysonvan2637]

i dont mean to be so off topic but does any of you know a way to get back into an Instagram account?? I was dumb forgot the password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me

[@nashthaddeus1321]

@Greyson Van instablaster ;)

[@SupesMe]

The DVD Commentary with Micheal York is amazing. He knows SO much about the production & what went on behind the scenes. One of the best commentaries of all time. And of course it's in Yorks voice :)

[@DNDZOLLER]

This was my very first science-fiction movie I watched in 1976 when I was 10 years old. It basically made me a science-fiction fan even before Star Wars in 1977.

[@JackFlanders]

I remember seeing this at the movie theater and I've always enjoyed it. When Farrah Fawcett came on the screen there was a noticeable murmur in the audience as most did not know that she was in it.

[@monsterlair]

Welcome to the Spacement, surely.

[@thefatman69dude]

I have a huge soft spot in my heart for this movie for being something I watched with my grandma often before she passed away. Wether it's bad or not I will always love this film.

[@patrick2140]

You guys should watch Narc with Ray Liotta, its an amazing cop thriller which has some really gut punching twists and turns.

[@SleepFan771]

What a Kafka reference, Matt! Logan's Run seems VERY derived from Huxley's _Brave New World._ 11:24 & 11:40 - That ice cave of frozen people looks so cool and cinematic actually for a movie filled with a lot of cheese.

[@truthseeker7341]

Thanks for picking this one guys. One of my favorite movies as a kid. I even bought a Rocket tubes toy kit that had a little car that shot through it after this came out, like the movie. That was for for about an hour. I think the movie holds up well, other than the mixed special effects of course. Some good, some bad. I don't remember much about the TV series. Michael York and Jenny Agutter made this better than it might have been. Plankton, fish from the sea.

[@number1human]

"Cats...what else would they be called...CATS!" First time I saw this movie I has to pause it for like ten minutes because I couldn't stop laughing.

[@endorbr]

They had a Hell of a walk from Washington DC all the way to Fort Worth, Texas to get back into the city via that fountain.

[@Gappasaurus]

Box was always my favorite character in this film, just gotta love a robot played by Roscoe Lee Browne 😁

[@adamjg4]

Fish, plankton, sea greens and protein from the sea!

[@sarabarehug4526]

That lady computer's voice did something to my brain when I heard it. Made me feel all squishy.

[@Joaquim.Oliveira]

Have you guys seen "City of God " ? It might well be the best Brazilian movie ever made , even though Brazil doesn't have any tradition in making great movies , this one is really good and shows really well the obstacles and soul of the people living in Rio de Janeiro at the time , a beautiful city but so raw and violent at times hat you might as well be at a warzone .

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

3:19. Oh! New cover art for the DVD or "Blue-Ray". Nice. Mine has the movie poster on it.

[@mattburkey8393]

Huzzah, Craig got his haircut.

[@mikecronis]

Huh-zzzzzah!!!

[@mightypingas2108]

I hope you guys really enjoy making these videos, because I enjoy watching them. Life can be very difficult. Keep it up!

[@ndgv2]

also, as a bald man, I just have to say, Craig has the most incredible head of hair I've ever seen.

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

10:20. In some versions, "Holly Thirteen", does not get crushed by the big door. I guess it depends on how each local station edited the movie for content. But I mean, that I think there is one where she simply gets shot directly. Another, where she escapes too. 😒

[@MrEPIC0CITY]

Have you seen Blood on the Moon, 1948? A Robert Mitchum film often considered one of the very few Western Noirs.

[@StoredMars]

I was named after Logan's Run.

[@agentorangecb1]

Is your family name Run?

[@jaronimo1976]

@@agentorangecb1 you beat me to it! :-P

[@chriss.9398]

So it is essentially a retelling of the allegory of the cave? I remember seeing it when I was a kid but I really didnt remember much about it.

[@SleepFan771]

I didn't even think about it. Great call, very similar concept.

[@hadassah179]

This movie was meant to be the director's clap back to 2001 Space Odyssey. He hated it SO much that he made Logan's Run. Keeping Space Odyssey in mind during the watch I had to think even though there's parts of the Odyssey scenery that are considered higher quality than what you get in Logan's Run I prefer the character developments in Logan. In Space Odyssey you remain the outsider of the whole thing watching this bizarre plot unfold. It's a give and take on both. Plot wise, Logan's run was more fun when they reach the frozen place and onward.

[@samvimes9510]

I saw this movie for the first time a few months ago and absolutely loved it. The fact that Jenny Agutter is in it certainly helps, though.

[@onjofilms]

Curious to find what happened to Mary 2 (the dirty face little girl) turns out she has over 33 film/acting credits. Last being in Airplane here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXa5hYR-nqaEiKM But after 1990 she evidently grew tired of acting and when to a university, and was never heard from again.

[@dcanmore]

FUN FACT: in the novel you lived until 21 not 30 as in the movie. I always felt that Michael Anderson, the director (still around at 96), never really understood science fiction. After Logan's Run he directed The Martian Chronicles for TV (Rock Hudson) and that was equally clunky in its storytelling. His previous successful movies from the 1950/60s were told in a more documentary matter-of-fact style which didn't work too well for his science fiction projects.

[@straker454]

To be fair though, they were worried about trying to cast all the actors as 21 or younger for this film as they were worried they wouldn't find enough quality actors at the time. Not a bad compromise I feel, though the adaptation of this story is...not quite up to speed really. The comic book adaptation from a few years ago is really rather good though.

[@dcanmore]

yes I assumed that to the case. They have to go with actors that would put bums on cinema seats.

[@RobertWF42]

Interesting - I had always assumed the age limit was related to hippies and beatniks not "trusting anyone over 30" or perhaps the age when you start taking on more adult responsibilities.

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

"Nomad", was a deep space probe, not a mere planet orbiting satellite.

[@endorbr]

Surprised you guys have never seen Logan's Run. I've loved this movie since I was kid.

[@smigelfitz]

Loving the contrast in this video

[@SkepticalKat]

Really liked that Kafka reference!

[@tomflorio3639]

Randolph Roberts, the second Chuck Cunningham on "Happy Days", has a small part in this film

[@TroubleToby3040]

I'll say this for you; You didn't start out with the deeply misleading, "Fun Fact". 😂🤣😂

[@theloniousswope2814]

wait, I'm confused, is this the sequel or prequel to Logan?

[@jaronimo1976]

This is Logan 5 :-P

[@DaDestroyer1986]

Hot damn, I seriously just watched this movie for the first time today! What a nice coincidence.

[@jhagen22]

Another great episode guys! I had the honor of seeing The Great Dictator in college during the film festival. And it was hosted by Chaplin's daughter and grand daughter. Was able to pick their brain's during an after party because my wife worked at the festival and got to know them. Ton's of great stories including how many times he did that famous speech.

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

"West Side Story", has, Natalie Wood, in it. Dad and I both loved her. That's our primary incentive to view that movie.

[@aestevalis0]

I've only seen WSS once, but you're right, Matt. The camera choreography _was_ fuckin' tight.

[@JaredOnYT]

Hey guys! Curious whether or not you've watched The Turbo Kid, a little post-apocalyptic Canadian film starring WTTB Hall of Famer Michael Ironside AND Matt's beloved Munro Chambers, aka the kid with the dumb face in Beethoven's Christmas Adventure. Give it a look if you haven't, it's very quirky.

[@KiddsockTV]

They were already in Sanctuary since the Earth seemed to be decimated.

[@happygilmore4026]

great choice! seen this one numerous times and can quote the whole thing. absolutely love this movie.

[@Dannyboi115]

Great Watch & Talk Matt & Craig.

[@FantasiaMagia]

Is that Alan Parson's "I Robot" in the background? Excellent choice.

[@captainnutella67]

My guess is that Craig will go back to the old scifi list and choose Quatermas and the pit.

[@WskOsc]

We can only hope.

[@nintendolunchbox]

Greg's mentions mst3k and silent running was inspiration. Ok. I am more confused.

[@blamesocietyfilms]

??

[@NoyziNeighborz]

Putting some Respek on your Hip Hop knowledge... #ULTRAMAGNETIC

[@mattwales2734]

I had my high school prom at Dallas Market Hall, which was used in this movie.

[@Chipwhitley274]

SEEN IT: The 2005 Pride & Prejudice? Whenever I realize that characters in a film are explaining to other characters, things that aren't common knowledge to many viewers... but that *_are_* common knowledge to those in the film... it takes me right out of the film. For example. In the 2005 Pride & Prejudice, there is a scene where Elizabeth is having a discussion with her friend, Charlotte, about the dreaded cousin that is coming to visit... the cousin who is to inherit their estate when their father passes away. Elizabeth says, ""He may turn us out of the house as soon as he pleases." Charlotte asks, "But why?!" Elizabeth responds, "Because the estate passes directly to him and not to us because we're females." Every adult of that time period understand that, and does not require an explanation, because it is common knowledge. Charlotte being baffled by the idea was not fitting for a person who lived during that time period... it didn't ring true. Despite a couple of those moments, I thought the film was, otherwise, fantastic. What are _your_ thoughts?

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

7:48. Not knowing if you will talk about it or not, I thought that I would inform you two about something. (Ahem.) In the movie and in the "CBS" series, 30 was the deadline age. That means that at 15, you were Middle Age! But guess what! In the novels that inspired the movie, the final age is 20! So 10 is Middle Age! Just like "Mary 2", is in the scene, if I recall right. That scene reminded me of one of the big differences between the source material and the movie. Another is, in the novels it was the whole planet, not just one city. The newer movie, "The Island", with Shawnee Smith, has scenes in it, that seem to be taken from the novel. The sitcom, "Mork & Mindy", it reused the, City of Domes, as the planetary capital for, Planet Ork, but with a red sky.

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

21:02. Guys, thanks! I've looking for a reaction video about this movie. You were the first one that I found. So I shall subscribe!

[@Xsuprio]

10:05 XD Look at the dude in red getting his butt set on fire!

[@pvtjhon]

Another fantastic episode.

[@nicholasliacone]

looking good Craig! thanks for the content guys.

[@tarransanders21]

9:26 wow that belly shot from Craig is making me swoon.

[@theratmaid]

Love this movie, even if it is badly dated

[@nointro]

You should watch Primer if you haven't seen it. It's not the most exciting film but it makes for a lot of interesting discussion.

[@TAEpley]

They Seened It. Check Out episode 30 "Aandhi" A.K.A. Bollywood.

[@jeweljardine8163]

nointro ss

[@nicksynet]

I saw this movie as a kid and always wondered what it was called thanks for jogging my memory :)

[@MrEPIC0CITY]

Okay here's my list of suggestions (some of which are quite rare, available format included): Blood on the Moon (VHS only) Rope of Sand (Amazon / Olive DVD & Blu Ray) Naked Alibi (LoC on Archive.org) Such A Gorgeous Girl Like Me, Truffaut (DVD/VHS?, Non US-Regions)

[@MasterTy]

Oh this is the move with the red blinking lights on the hands

[@JakeKaufmanFilms]

My favorite KZbin show. I would love to see you guys do an episode on Rollerball or Seconds. Both are under appreciated 60s/70s scifi flicks.

[@RocknRoll3837]

this movie really reminds me of the book anthem by ayn rand

[@DanteKami1]

Have either of you seen The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari? It's a really spooky silent film, and Ceasare looks exactly like Craig!

[@CaptChrispy]

Watching this again, I like the heaviness, the gravitas; so much to think about, so many other movies to compare it to. Not only the treatment but does this reality fit into any other movie's reality? is this happening in Washington while Omega man is fighting zombies in NY? You can see BOX's lips because he's not all robot, he's more like Robocop.

[@CaptChrispy]

Old man is gonna get buried alright; buried in p*ssy! They're going to bury him with a smile on his face but it's going be hard to get the coffin closed! Do you suppose Logan 5 and Francis 7 do a web show from that couch?

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

"Gun Point", not a fun place to rendezvous! 😅

[@Tony-1971]

Love sci-fi, and Logan's Run is my favorite sci-fi movie.

[@GoatHeadWalletProdt]

Sci fi movies to watch next episode. Metropolis (but they have seen it), Minority Report, Soylent Green, Omega man, moon ( but they have seen it), Repo man, Repo the genetic Opera, Mad Max, Things to come(last years sci fi July) and there will be other sci fi movies to come.

[@misskris0125]

Assuming you've already seen all the classics like Metropolis and Plan 9... Queen of outer space with Zsa Zsa !

[@fremenchips]

Have either of you guys seen "Gimme Shelter" the concert film to the 1969 Altamont Concert, it makes an interesting contrast to Woodstock.

[@TAEpley]

They Seened It. Check Out Episode 16 The Decline of Western Civilization II: The Metal Years.

[@holyspirit3639]

There is a little blue dot on Craig's face in beginning

[@katawatenshu]

I never realized how much Equilibrium was like Logan's Run until this review

[@1simo93521]

Equilibrium is similar to Fahrenheit 451.

[@zenitramnaes]

+Simo Also similar to Repomen in some aspects.

[@heshwuan]

'The Island' too.

[@ranshinjin]

You guys should watch "Mom and Dad Save the World" if you haven't already seen it. It's an interesting sci-fi comedy.

[@ThePerdyNerdy]

I thought this movie was very poignant. In a world where we throw away broken things, and cut programs that take care of the elderly it feels like the idea for this movie isn't too unrealistic.

[@liddydec]

Sunshine! Great sci-fi movie!

[@UmamaGoblin]

an old man surrounded by non-shallow women. It's a dream come true

[@ebeaver15]

"It's like that episode of Star Trek" When is the collab with Redlettermedia going to happen?

[@TroubleToby3040]

When Matt goes back in time and makes his younger self never do Chad Vader, which Mike HATES with a passion. Although, I'm not sure Welcome to the Basement would have ever happened without the success of Chad Vader. As RLM may never have happened without Plinkett's Phantom review. They both got their start making fun of Star Wars.

[@QuorkEx]

Welcome to the future, where everything is perfect. There's only one catch. No fuses. Ralph Nader must have been spinning in his grave when the city blew up.

[@AK-zi5kv]

This is a great episode, I forgot why I enjoyed Logan's Run so much the first time, thanks for reminding me! I would suggest doubling down and doing the animated sci fi film Paprika. It's a mind trip for sure, but it in part inspired Inception and I believe it to be a much, much better film; you should check it out!

[@Survivor2002]

Mad props for the prominent display of APP's "I, ROBOT" in the background...

[@ryangettig274]

Screened the fi film&tv series @Christmas,Jenny Agutter&Heather Menzies both bodacious babes!!RUNNERRRR!!!:)

[@zomgitsphil1]

For next week film I'd be really chuffed if Craig picked Pandorum. If not add it to seen it!

[@SirGeeeO]

fun fact: West Side Story is Michael Bay's favorite movie. If you pay attention you might notice that he often attempts to imitate West Side Story's camera work

[@CaptChrispy]

Oh Jenny Agutter (American Werewolf in London) . Now we know why you haven't seen it in its entirety.

[@CaptChrispy]

Rung Sloan

[@CaptChrispy]

it would help to be a runner by not having a red wardrobe. is this what is happening in Star Trek?

[@QuorkEx]

Billy Zane? Poor Micheal deserves better than that.

[@JagerMonster720]

there's a blue spec near craig's face during the beginning and end. Also i hate that it bothers me this much.

[@76devl69]

Would love to watch you two review Jeff Lieberman's Blue Sunshine and Satan's Little Helper in Oct

[@Llama212ify]

Apparently I saw this (rated on IMDB), but I have no recollection of it. Interesting.

[@makeghandi]

Soylent Green was my first thought

[@calvinjluther]

Man, Box really puts C-3PO's costume in perspective.

[@trifontrifonov4297]

Craig should pick Stalker. Then you can have try not to fall asleep competition....just kidding Stalker is an awesome movie, even if a bit slow.

[@wacabell]

Sorry, but I loved this as a kid. I was actually obsessed with it.

[@charleswisconsin9196]

who said you had to be sorry?

[@wacabell]

@@charleswisconsin9196 this movie gets a lot of undeserved hate

[@sdough1015]

you should watch "Paprika"

[@ellishotomani1462]

Hey! I caught the reference to Kafka's "The Penal Colony"!

[@TheLastAngryGeek]

13:25 Standing in the background like that Ustinov kind of looked like Dr. Zaius. Maybe this IS a Planet of the Apes sequel?

[@commanderkruge]

By pressing down the special key it plays a little melody.

[@ndgv2]

another great episode. thanks guys.

[@tobyjamison6801]

Box wasn't a robot. He was made half machine after an accident.

[@magnus800]

They took liberties with the source material. Still a good film.

[@nickmccabe2327]

Another obvious similarity between this movie and Star Trek: both take place in the 23rd century. Also, a sequel to this movie would be interesting. A society that has a sudden population increase because people live beyond 30 and how it must cope with the challenges would be intriguing.

[@NiceFoilHat]

A good choice for a sci fi movie between M and S is Moon. Sam Rowell is an amazing actor and the soundtrack by Clint Mansell truly supports the movie. This is one of those films I could watch again and again.

[@TAEpley]

They Seened It. Check out episode 10: "Lost Highway".

[@NiceFoilHat]

+T.A. Epley Thanks for the reminder. I usually check the episode guide on the site but just jumped at recommending Moon. So, I wonder have the guys seen Mr. Nobody an interesting film featuring a nonlinear storyline and Jared Leto in the leading role. At the very least it would be a good way to hear the guys thoughts on the new Suicide Squad movie and the Justice League teaser that just came out.

[@TAEpley]

"Moon" is really a great choice, as well as a popular suggestion. I loved that movie. Little known fact: the director is the son of Starman: Ziggy Stardust. So sci-fi was sort of an inside job for him. I don't think they've mentioned Mr. Nobody in any of their segments.

[@NiceFoilHat]

+T.A. Epley Interesting, I didn't know that about the director. Also, I have to ask are you the T. A. Epley that sends Matt records in the unboxing videos? If so I have to say you've got some really good taste in music and an eclectic style. :)

[@TAEpley]

Yep, if you've got any LP suggestions, I'll put them in the grab-bag. Meaning the hat I pull ideas out of. No guarantees :)

[@1simo93521]

I do hope they watch Moon I love that film.

[@TAEpley]

If you want to know what they thought of "Moon", check out the "Lost Highway" episode. :)

[@jiujitsu77]

Hey guys! My name is Andy, and I am a new subscriber, but long time viewer. I just want to say that your channel is a breath of fresh air compared to the countless movie critic channels here on KZbin. That's not to say that the others are no good. In fact I personally like almost anyone who takes the time to review any film , To either sing its praises, or warned me of its mediocrity. I love the fact that you guys include some what of an element of surprise by having one of you, or both of you, that see the movie before hand. It makes the reviews a bit more natural, and it really shows your talent for riffing the film off the cusp. You guys crack me up.

[@jiujitsu77]

I also admire you reviewing arthouse and foreign films, rather than sticking to the dreaded "IMDb bottom 50" like so many other critics do. I get it. It's easy to riff. But there is only so many times I can see how bad the Giant Claw sucked. Anyways..great job. You guys (and the camera lady) make an awesome team, and make it so I want to continue to follow your channel. Kudos to you, and pardon my grammatical errors and poor sentence structure, for I am using my microphone, and autocorrect is a bastard

[@jiujitsu77]

Ok ok ok one last thing I swear. Review another Bollywood film if you can. Sholay would be right up your alley. An Indian Spaghetti Western, if you will. Top notch fun. Over and out!