This “cheap” 72V E-Moto is faster than my Surron…

[@nierdrifter3276]

What most people are failing to realize... is that EVERY brand is made in china. All from the same factories. with the same parts. Some rich white guy in America orders 5000 of them in bulk and talks to the manufacturer to slap on their logos and change plastics a little bit. But EVERY electric dirt bike is basically the same thing. It's baffling to hear the comparisons like "OH THIS IS SURRONS BRAKES" like yeah ofcourse they are. They're every electric dirt bikes. Same with the "KKE" forks and what not. Its all literally the same thing.

[@SeeYouInTea.]

Why the American guy have to be white? It’s other races in America.

[@Danielxperez14]

mostly true, you have to upgrade everythingh on these bikes unfortunately, if you want to seriously ride it

[@logan-taylor]

i think most people are aware that these bikes are all made in china and share parts - but they are super different from one another in tons of way! what you described is private labeling, which does happen in this industry, but is very different than developing / engineering a new frame + drivetrain from the ground up!

[@4chanresearchdivision107]

Agree'd, however quality standards differ. You don't just pay for the rich white guy middle man, you do pay for them to tell the Chinese factories to make the bikes properly. Doesn't always work that way, but typically. Most ebikes are indeed made in China, but i still prefer buying the more expensive(and typically more reliable with issues more ironed out) than the super sketch brands.

[@azalldayson28]

They arent dirt bikes lmao!

[@metalofthedeath]

Cleaning the rotors with brake cleaner before riding it helps a butt load, they come with protectant in them and once that gets on the pads the brakes totally suck

[@HoonGoon]

Thank you for preventing my future loop out 😂

[@spencerjames1426]

@@metalofthedeath the tires definitely have some kind of oil on them. I assembled this thing in my kitchen and now my floors got an oily sheen on it

[@rickc2222]

@@spencerjames1426 silicone oil commonly used as a mold release from manufacturing....

[@spencerjames1426]

I just ordered my mantis x from rev rides yesterday.. the freight company texted me today and it will be getting delivered Tuesday afternoon.. I'm so stoked because it is exactly what I'm looking for. I wish the battery range was a little bit better but oh well. And I'm super stoked about them making it compatible with the app

[@notagoose9786]

did u get it?

[@spencerjames1426]

@@notagoose9786 sure did. It's bigger than I thought it was going to be. It's pretty fucking heavy when it's still in the wooden box too. Me and the freight driver weren't even able to lift it up two steps to put it on my porch. Had to put it in front of my porch and take it out of the wooden crate to bring inside. To be honest I was a little bit disappointed on the assembly instructions but I was eventually able to figure everything out. Will be test driving it today

[@logan-taylor]

hope the test ride goes well! I probably should have covered assembly in more detail in this video - lmk if you have any questions

[@spencerjames1426]

@@logan-taylor I haven't tested yet... I was watching a setup video to make sure I put everything together correctly and it was mentioned that the chain should have about 1 in of slack.. I checked my chain and there's almost zero slack.. I got a guy coming out tomorrow to adjust everything for me.. this thing has some serious fucking power.. I set it up in my kitchen and sat on it and gave it the slightest bit of throttle one could give and still almost looped it in my kitchen 😂. It's bigger than I thought it would be and it's kind of top-heavy but it does look badass

[@notagoose9786]

​@@spencerjames1426how is it? thinking of getting one!

[@Oddman1980]

I recently discovered these electric bikes. I spent my 20's falling off dirt bikes in the woods, and these things look so much easier to deal with than a good internal combustion dirt bike, and MUCH easier to deal with than my ancient two-stroke Husqvarna. Quieter too. And for $3k, there's no question.

[@EphraimBasri]

You should definitely compare this to the Talaria xXx and maybe the Roadrunner Pro

[@cameronramirez8447]

the only difference really is 3 miles and hour but the rawr gets awful range

[@AndyWong2551]

Awesome vids! I love how you highlighted both the pros and cons of the Rawrr Mantis X. It’s great to see more affordable options hitting the market. Andy

[@JustMoto_15]

Ofc all of this comes out the same year I get my surron

[@carpelunam]

have no fear battery technology is moving so fast this will also be outdated in two years or less

[@pnwlowlyfe3381]

Honestly bro I just bought a used talaria sting for more than this thing

[@maniacalmonster2293]

ACCELERATION ACCELERATION ACCELERATION There are some of us out here that care more about the acceleration and torque rather than the top speed or wheelies for instance. Nobody ever talks about the acceleration and torque. The 0 - 30 the 0 - 20. How fast does it do that? What is the torque of the bike and the rear wheel? And yes I know there are spec sheets but I would like to see it visually. It does make a difference. Damn I'm so tired of watching videos about everybody covering the same aspects. It's all the same..

[@lucasf4627]

It only has 28 nm it says thought it would be alot more then that 😂

[@Motomantiss]

I have one its really good better then a surron ive rode both, in sport i go 0-50 in about 6 seconds

[@Calthecool]

The loc-tight shows that they actually care and aren’t just trying to make a buck.

[@asian_raisin]

I thought I recognized the area. Golden Gardens was one of our favorite hangout spots in my younger years. I've not been down there since Summer time. Miss all the fun times we've had in that area.

[@E-RiderHub]

Bring on the XXX vs Mantis X drag race! Test rode a Mantis X today and fell in love. Almost fell off it but thinking about pulling the trigger on either this or the XXX

[@logan-taylor]

currently on the hunt for a stock XXX to test!

[@HoonGoon]

Thanks for the great video! I ordered one on Tuesday I’m loosing my mind waiting for it😂

[@logan-taylor]

you’re gonna have so much fun

[@spencerjames1426]

I just ordered my mantis x from RevRides yesterday. Got a text from the freight shipping company today saying that it will be here Tuesday afternoon. Apparently it's going to be a whole lot better once they make it compatible with their app

[@HoonGoon]

@@logan-taylor thanks bro I’ve been seeing you come up congrats on your success 😎

[@snj2245]

I was like "why does this street look familiar" then I saw you hit golden gardens. This video is happening in my hood, haha

[@logan-taylor]

haha that’s sick!!

[@snj2245]

@@logan-taylor do you think they’d let you take the Surron or eride on the light rail? I got an extra e-bike with pedals so I can hop the light rail with it to work.

[@asian_raisin]

lol. I've lived in Seattle for over 45 years so recognized all these areas. Golden Gardens area is still one of my favorites to visit on a nice sunny day.

[@Jamesisbetter]

Great video!!!You should try the talaria mx4 and Xxx there such great bikes!!!❤

[@jamesgeorge4874]

Those Hydrangeas are beautiful.

[@SVNN8012]

I would recommend you pick up some sort of stabilisation for your camera, so it does not shake as much like in around 0:15! good content!

[@beezloan1]

Drag race the XXX for sure. This thing will take it off the line

[@lamonthoward3379]

Yea man getting mine soon.. I can’t wait!!

[@logan-taylor]

congratulations!!

[@ConnorGMedia]

killing the content as always bro

[@logan-taylor]

right back at you king

[@beezysbeatz4924]

I feel like you should adjust app settings while your riding

[@MrJfred78]

Agree, fail on the name. Rawrr 😂 Great review, you mentioned it felt a little small, wondering how tall you are, if you said it I missed it. Thanks!

[@Sunspot-19]

Would be interesting to see a rideout with the various bikes in its class. Not to mention the antics that happen between a buncha riders playin bikes in dirt.

[@logan-taylor]

great idea

[@The4wakenedXchange]

I'm between this and a talaria triple x. I like the design of this imo.

[@spencerjames1426]

I had the same dilemma but I went with the Mantis X.. 72 volt system for that price is wild and they're working on making it compatible with their apps so you can tune the performance.. the only con is that the range isn't that great. It's only 30ah but the website says they're developing a new 35ah battery

[@The4wakenedXchange]

I spoke to them and they say they will sell models with the 35ah stock. That's around 2500AH, not bad.

[@spencerjames1426]

@@The4wakenedXchange I'll definitely be much happier if the one I ordered comes with a 35ah battery.

[@phat56pat]

Yesssssirrrrrrr great video my boiii

[@JustinPoIson]

I'm about to buy my son his first bike meaning, I'm going to need one too and this one seems to be the one I'm leaning towards for the price.

[@WestonRichards-f5y]

Wow wish I could afford but I can’t been trying g to find a used one or win a giveaway but keep of the good work fire

[@Calthecool]

It’s a short wheelbase but it probably has personality

[@wolffishbbx]

this video is what made me and my boy buy thisss and weeee love itttttt

[@logan-taylor]

have fun guys!

[@wolffishbbx]

@@logan-taylor ima be honest it’s scary to wheelie it with how bouncy the suspension is

[@dyliver]

Bro I’m brand new to your channel. And I just moved to Washington from Florida and I bought an ultra bee a few weeks ago. Gotta put me on to the Seattle scene. Appreciate you

[@logan-taylor]

welcome bro - come to saturday night ride, that’s an all electric ride has a lot of overlap with the surron guys in the area! 7:30pm saturdays starting at Mohai in seattle

[@dyliver]

@@logan-taylor thank you bro. I just plastics and get a riser bar tomorrow. We outside friend!

[@HIPHOPMENTOR]

bruh if you do jumps n willies ya know that battery is perfect balance point for everything ! What u a engineer 😂

[@Talaria-An]

love the video im stuck between this bike and the talaria xxx due to the frame design any takes on the choice?

[@dingle4030]

get the x

[@logan-taylor]

both are great bikes - this one is def better for dirt riding if you wanna do both, triple x is great for street

[@Bengy22]

Triple X only has upsides vs this bike. The only slight negative I can think of is this bike comes with an offroad wheelset. Triple X though is going to have a larger battery, way more aftermarket support, lighter weight, looks better, and the talaria will hold its value better if you sell to upgrade later on

[@LarryRichelli]

If you are a pavement princess go ahead and get the Rawrr. If you are going offroad much at all the the Talaria. Also the Talaria has great upgrade options

[@Talaria-An]

@@logan-taylor thanks also i love the cut😁

[@Dog_in_tree]

I'm 6ft tall. Is this too short for me to be comfortably commuting and cruising on? I'm not really looking to ride off road, but i might try it if I get a bike like this. I just want something fast and somewhat affordable. I also want to be able to get it up a flight of stairs because i live in a 2nd floor apartment and have nowhere else to store a bike. I really want to cruise down roads at 40mph because i drive a lot for work but I'd like to be able to take a bike instead for my local clients when the weather is nice.

[@logan-taylor]

you would fit just fine, it just might feel a little bit compact (not a bad thing for your uses). I’m 6’3” and it feels small but 100% rideable.

[@adrianquinn6340]

Would love to see a triple x vs mantis x video 💪🏽

[@Doc.62311]

Bro the track under the bridge looks so sick! where is it located would love to ride it.

[@logan-taylor]

near south lake union, it’s called the Collonade

[@Doc.62311]

@@logan-taylor cool i will check it out man

[@HoonGoon]

Hey bro was it easy to remove the stickers? Looks way better, probably the 1st thing I’m doing

[@logan-taylor]

yep super easy!

[@Wangan300]

Not sure what site this is 3k on. Costs the same as the eride pro ss everywhere i found it. 3k is the price of the mini version.

[@logan-taylor]

i have a link in the description

[@RodneyIodwyn]

Where could I purchase one of these bikes I’m all the way in Jamaica 0:04 0:04

[@Xyro____]

I’m thinking of getting one of these but I was just wondering what made it easier for you to wheelie?

[@MashiroMartinez]

The Casio A158 🔥🔥🔥

[@logan-taylor]

a man of culture

[@getboped_bot1294]

So my question is how long will the battery last riding close to full speed

[@LordHolley]

Get what you pay for. The new MX5 is another $1700, and it's ready for serious riding out of the box. I guess it really depends on what you're looking to do. This one looks good for low impact riding.

[@logan-taylor]

mx5 wasn’t out when i made this video but yes it looks like an amazing stock bike! I still prefer the eride platform but mx5 looks so killer.

[@LordHolley]

​@logan-taylor Yeah, I'm not sure if it's available even now, LOL. It looks like it's going to have the highest performance for TurnKey bikes. Regardless, great video.

[@anthonymoy4471]

Tonk builds mx5 cought fire 🔥 first ride out

[@Meexhy-e5o]

i heard that there is i speed limiter how fast does it go if u cut it?

[@logan-taylor]

i didn’t have to modify anything! If it goes over 50 that would be kinda cool…

[@glo_gm9257]

I recently bought the 2024 72v rawrr mantis and it’s super fun how did you get yours to pop wheelies and do you got any turn signal recommendations for it so I can make mine street legal north cal cops are a pain

[@perks6359]

How did you end up doing wheelies? after not being able to? I just got mine and it also doesn't seem to want to wheelie to easily?

[@twostaketwo7389]

6’3” 300 plus pound man looking for an e-bike suggestions

[@JayDaOnlyy]

Were you out today in Bellevue at around 7:30 pm? If you were I saw you ride past me on your eride pro. I got really hyped 😅. Or it could’ve been someone else. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@logan-taylor]

haha that was probably someone else!! but i'll be back in bellevue some time soon :)

[@LuhZoStizzy]

Bro you cooked your mantis x they said dont use the rawrr app yet because its known to make it not work (same for the mantis mini) but they are currently working on a fix

[@logan-taylor]

they told me the same thing but i just restored factory settings and it feels 100%. Excited for them to finish this app haha

[@jesseframe5134]

Yo, did you film this in the BlueRidge/ Golden Gardens area of NW Seattle? I’m in the Seattle area & id love to meet up & see these bikes in person. You ever meet in public spaces/ events, so people can get an up close look?

[@FewMoto]

Great video! Is that Seattle?

[@logan-taylor]

yessir!

[@ajahniepemberton1860]

are there any competitors to the ultra bee I am a bigger guy and need it to be around the same size as a full size dirt bike

[@djSpinege]

Thanks for being Honest. Subbed

[@blackout270]

Are these legal to ride on the road?

[@bobstrickland5484]

Nope

[@RadiantFreeEnergyResearch]

The day someone offers a minimum of a 100+ volt electric motorcycle that is priced significantly less than the stark varge(an amazing electric motorcycle), i will be irresistibly drawn to buying one. after experiencing the raw unleashed power of 150+ volt batteries in the Lynx Electric Unicycle, i cannot easily accept lower voltage systems. and euc is looking at 250 volt systems, to exponentially increase performance greater than already achieved. professional racers demand high voltage performance. even the energica electric motorcycle is extremely high voltage. and my favorite electric motorcycle for that price bracket, for example; compared to the much lower voltage zero electric motorcycles.

[@SoCalPyro679]

Question how do you change it to off road mode because on the website it only goes 20 on city?

[@Galactic_Apocalypse]

Where do you get the erid, surron, and the roar mantis

[@blinqe3592]

whats the difference between this and the rawrr mantis 72v?

[@markcozzie]

Why would it not wheelie??,many new owners will face this issue??

[@brandonclark-q6z]

Where are these places you’re riding at? I’m in Washington looking to come hit those up

[@fowlizm9065]

when will this thing go out to order? i can only see the mantis 72v version on their website, not the version that has X on the name

[@xaviermaclin2904]

I ordered mine on last Saturday it’ll be here Tuesday!

[@logan-taylor]

revrides has them in stock right now, idk about Rawrr’s site tho!

[@CarverCookie]

I want one so bad they look sweet

[@RodneyIodwyn]

Where could I purchase one of these bikes I’m all the way in Jamaica

[@chrishavens867]

Where do you find these for under 3K, Rawrr's website has them for $4500???

[@chrishavens867]

oh nvm, I see your link, thats wild that Rev Rides is selling them for so much less than Rawrr advertises, crazy deal!

[@gregorypatzelt6964]

I bought to surron one year ago before all these 72v options starting dropping. Bummer.

[@logan-taylor]

surrons are great bikes - don’t worry too much about the 72v hype haha

[@MotoAlias]

72v is just marketing when it comes to these bikes cuz they're still only as powerful as the 60v bikes the only 72v bike that's more powerful than the 60v bikes in the class is the e ride pro

[@dguapsadventures914]

is there a shop you know of that sells that bike or an e ride pro? i live down south by that area. and revrides is too far for travel.

[@EcoSpeeder]

Torque setting ?

[@jasongardner1910]

The State never tears down that your jump park?

[@logan-taylor]

nope! they helped build it!

[@dbirds21]

I built that place under the freeways. Dirt corps out of snoqualmie put many hours building that about 16 years ago. It's gone to shit.

[@logan-taylor]

@@dbirds21 we’re fixing it up bit by bit.

[@dbirds21]

@@logan-taylor thats awesome. That park is what started the freeride scene in seattle. It went from underground to main stream. Logan you ever ride exit 27 in snoqualmie. It used to be some big hits. 20 foort drops and massive gaps

[@logan-taylor]

@@dbirds21 i remember trying to ride it as a kid on my hard tail - super intimidating as a kid haha! And i've never even heard of that... gonna go check it out, thanks

[@dbirds21]

out of the box its one of the best. Its top speed is decent but its got grunt for real off road riding. ONly thing is the longevity of it.

[@MotoAlias]

The talaria sting has rear linkage this doesn't so this isn't better

[@dbirds21]

@@MotoAlias I disagree at this stage in the game. I will see after 1 year if it holds up to make final ruling. At the price point its every bit as good as a talaria. In fact I think it feels better for general bashing

[@MotoAlias]

@@dbirds21 the rawr mantis has been out for a while it was 60v got bad reviews no one liked it. So they made it 72v but still only 8kw no one liked it it barely sold. Now they have a cheap one thats only 6.5kw and their able to sell some bikes ciz it's cheap and 72v which is stupid cuz its still only 6.5kw. It doesn't compete it's just a cheap option for people who don't know shit about emotos to get in the game. I see it worked on you.

[@dbirds21]

I disagree. I rode one and I rode a talaria. The usable power for bashing is better on the mantis x. The mantis x feels better imho. It feels more connected to the ground and I like the power better. This bike at 3k is better. The talaria is good also but not for 1500 more. I just put my order in on the mantis x over the rest. THe suspension feels better than all of them.

[@MotoAlias]

@@dbirds21 you're an idiot. If your talking about a talaria that's 1500 more then your talking about the sting r amd its 8kw which is more powerful than the mantis x at only 6.5kw. The sting r is far superior in literally every way. You'd be more fair in comparing the mantis x to the talaria xxx almost same price and both 6.5kw so same power. Only difference is you can upgrade the talaria to be a monster and you can't woth the mantis x. You just bought tue cheapest 72v emoto dude it's not better than anything else in its class

[@Eldritch_Bean]

Is there a link where i can buy this

[@jamesireland9188]

My 15 year old son has wanted a ebike but I have been looking for a not crazy priced one. Been tough because he is 6ft 2 football player build has definitely earned it grades from freshman are amazing. Starting sophomore year on the 3rd really enjoyed the content have a good day and stay safe Jimmy from North Attleboro Mass.

[@logan-taylor]

i went to school in MA! This could be a good option for him, i think the talaria triple x is also a solid choice with smaller wheels.

[@Painsukii]

Please explain how 3k is super cheap,

[@logan-taylor]

this hobby is mad expensive 😔😔

[@Allentech11]

can u get an eride pro s next

[@travissedman6314]

Do thay deliver around the world

[@ericb.4358]

The trouble with "budget" e-bikes is their cheap-assed Chinese batteries that are DANGEROUS.

[@YoungTooShabby]

Everything is from China bro even your iPhone battery

[@smokolotapotamus]

What did you change to get it to wheelie

[@logan-taylor]

charged it up overnight and sent it haha - idk what changed but it’s all good now

[@NickMacDonald-b3m]

If you don't like the bike I can't afford one I love it to go places and finally have a way to get to a job back and forth

[@jared.29_]

when does it release?

[@logan-taylor]

it’s out!! i have the link in description i think

[@aurual6272]

Is the eride pro s worth it?

[@Lee-kb5kk]

I like the way you xplan all the good things you need to no I've just had my bick stolen from me in the storet at niet point

[@jaymartin5434]

What is the range

[@Moon_light_dark]

I just have a question if you don't want it can i it that my question

[@HIPHOPMENTOR]

Sad that the Rawr is the best for $3k ! i'll stick to that part!!! 👍

[@MotoAlias]

For that price the xxx is still better it's only 69v but still 6m5kw like this rawr 72v bike so no difference in power. The xxx you can upgrade everything tho you can't on the rawr

[@revenge680]

@@MotoAlias There's already groups dedicated specifically to this bike and upgrades for it.

[@MotoAlias]

@@revenge680 not a controller motor or battery which are the main things.

[@revenge680]

@@MotoAlias Yes, a controller. Emoto-X Racing already has one available. You can also make tweaks to the stock controller like adding more torque via tuning in the app. Mantis said they’re working on upgrades as well. Not to mention how popular the bike is getting, which is leading to more companies joining in on the fun. The battery is made by Samsung, and owners have already found replacements.

[@MotoAlias]

@@revenge680 the battery isn't made by Samsung just cuz it uses Samsung cells. And a controller doesn't do anything if your battery limits are already maxed out. No battery's are available for this bike and prob won't be anytime soon of ever. It's only popular because it's cheap and people think 72v is awesome not realizing it's no more powerful than the 60v surron or 60v talaria xxx. It's a gimmick

[@khoifesh642]

I’m planning on getting a talaria xxx or this bike for cheaper. Btw I’m from the same state I’m just from Everett

[@logan-taylor]

ayee local!!

[@anthonymoy4471]

The pegs look like copy of two brothers grom pegs

[@NWforager]

these things are getting SUper cheap .

[@Leo-x1o1t]

3000 is far from cheap for something that goes as fast as a 1200 Chinese dirt bike with the same acceleration

[@pengos1639]

3k is not cheap imo

[@NWforager]

​@@Leo-x1o1t anything better than 1 dollar per watt with decent quality is Objectively a good deal . Are you comparing this to a gas dirt bike ?

[@Leo-x1o1t]

@@NWforager yes, i have my ebox, and it has had more problems than my chinese pitter

[@rickc2222]

wont ship to canada.....

[@ShaneOMalle]

Does anyone make a 21" Ebike only see 17s and 19s. Best Big Boy bike.?? better choice 2.0 or x5?????? ones 150lbs others more llike 170

[@m117driven]

Hey man you still gonna make that discord server?

[@amped19996]

Make it yourself

[@aaron_p2]

Under 3000 including shipping?

[@KianFrederick]

Mine came out to about 3200

[@axelkarlsson432]

I hope he gets to review the new mx5

[@logan-taylor]

trying to convince one of my friends to buy one so i can review it lol

[@phoenixvoices9471]

pls review the Ventus One im beggingggg

[@ghxxtofxxcial]

Bro I’m a big Rawr fan they are so considerate with pricing if they sent me a bike I’d review it as my first vedio

[@dbirds21]

What happened with the wheelie problem on.day one. So was it a setup issue or finding the rhythm

[@logan-taylor]

my guess is that it hasn’t been charged to 100% yet, so was acting weird? But also probably just a rhythm thing more than anything else. wheelies now super well.

[@thatherton]

id rather just buy a talaria XXX for 3k instead of telling people i drive something called "Rawwrr" lmao

[@TimmyBarthomew]

Lmao that’s crazy

[@BlvckPapa]

How tall are you?

[@logan-taylor]

6’3”

[@kermitthefrog6363]

The website says $4499....not $3000...

[@nrgaquafreshyt]

Talaria xxx?

[@bisco5178]

I still have the talaria xxx over this cuz its way more lowkey and I wont have to deal with cops. That thing screams dirtbike/motorcycle.

[@noobie6115]

please test out MX5:)

[@logan-taylor]

would love to if i can get my hands on one!

[@unlucky2808]

You should upgrade a rad and do a review

[@coreywareii5480]

That bike ain't no chump 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅