Juke's Towers of Hell Flawed: Catastrophic Towers [Ring 9 Part 2]

[@ninjaandocean]

Can we just appreciate that he called Cata a “white sticky mess”

[@LuteyBooty]

wtf

[@SycipsGD]

cu

[@LuteyBooty]

nonononononono

[@user-gh9sv3jt3z]

You need Jesus.

[@YourAveragePersonOnTheStreets]

*C O O M*

[@Fangkie]

logan: white sticky mess me: oh no

[@notshadyshad]

coom

[@whengaming9999]

LMAO

[@epic_obbyist4655]

@@notshadyshad LMAO

[@oanhnguyen3189]

oH nOoOooOo

[@thecorrurtion215]

Citatel ufo mums

[@jukecalla]

2:56 a bit of a correction here, i was the one who had the idea to put STONE in ring 4, however obren told me that it should be reserved for ring 5

[@SoI-]

Wait, you are the real juke!?

[@7cpm469]

@@SoI- she is the real juke check her channel

[@U_veee]

hi Juke!

[@ibnuhalim3399]

Hi juke

[@abood210.]

aaaaa juke

[@friendlyfart4625]

theres nothing wrong with 2 catas in ring 9, this game isnt supposed to be free. Good vid nonetheless

[@Logan_ISL]

Nope I agree, it’s just some people don’t think that the space it takes up could be something that they could beat.

[@BurningDryIce]

@@Logan_ISL honestly, that's a really big problem with modern towers imo they're just too forgiving nowadays, with 203948494 safety nets, i mean yes not all modern towers are forgiving, we got coq even though it's a citadel and potentially toq for ring 9, but ktoh was supposed to be a rage game, and jtoh should be too

[@Shtiefan]

@@BurningDryIce i personally don't think so... Think about ToUS, or even worse, ToIII with 0 safety nets... Safety nets are pretty good for harder towers, because it gets annoying to do everything all over again, plus, it's still a rage game, you don't know how much i raged at ToTL and ToDDD But if you really want to not make the tower "free" after the safety net, then make more outside sections in a tower

[@worktakestheW]

@@Shtiefan these two towers (ToUS and ToIII) actually have a safety net, both on f6

[@Shtiefan]

@@worktakestheW i know, i wanted to say that these towers would be worse in my opinion without safety nets

[@jjtoof69420]

8:20. When that one guy beat that one hard tower and saw the GGs, he thought the entire fommunity was congratulating HIM.

[@ClassicStylishCone]

ToNBA is really hard one btw.😅

[@jacksondoesjtoh4690]

I noticed that, when compared to their counterparts, the last ring/zone in each world has a higher number of potential towers compared to say, the first ring/zone. To me, this is meant as a means of giving said final ring/zone a sense of spectacle to it. The fact that its a more expansive ring/zone (especially with sc's) compared to its counterparts, the ring gives a sense of intimidation, which, as the final area in a world, is quite proper. It really almost coins ring 9 and zone 10 themselves as the "finale ring/zone" of their worlds.

[@emir.069]

Logan: Talks About Catastrophic Towers Me: Enjoys The ToIII Gameplay

[@worktakestheW]

Relatable

[@superluigidummy]

same

[@iplayz4195]

Same XD

[@hexibud]

Purist towers are only hated on if they have bad gameplay or don’t put effort in it really, purist is fine if they use it in a good way. Also a reminder tower of thinning layers is a purist tower

[@MacheteFreddy77]

in my opinion Ring 9 should have 14 towers divided this way: 7 SCs and 7 Non-SCs. Have 3 or 2 Intense, 4 or 5 Remorseless, 1 or 2 Insane, 2 Extreme, 2 Terrifying, and 1 or 2 Catastrophic. IMO that is a good way to balance the difficulties in Ring 9.

[@rejubila4239]

It has to have 2 catas since tocr and tocp:r are one of the best towers ever

[@jhamerethedino]

@@rejubila4239 and thats your opinion

[@tristantheoofer2]

yeh seems liek a good idea to me.

[@huji-rf8hn]

@Pz did you not listen? stone wont be added

[@fireserpent9854]

@Pz STONE was deconfirmed as a request by the creator, so it's not getting in.

[@indwzz9441]

1:29 "this white sticky mess" me: AYO?

[@theembodimentofuselesscont3221]

He was referring to milk

[@artificialsweetner]

"BUT SIR MILK ISNT STICKY.."

[@indwzz9441]

@@artificialsweetner “NO MAN.... MILK ISNT THE WORD WE’RE LOOKING FOR....”

[@name215]

coom

[@andrewmonleonstudios]

Glue

[@fireserpent9854]

8:20 Technically correct, but it wouldn't hurt to mention someone beat unnerfed ToAAA fully legit beforehand, which would've likely been the ring 8 cata if the part limit wasn't an issue (even though ToGF used unions to cheat the limit anyway).

[@aNubbr]

I like how in the live chat the person Panda asked when he will talk about Green Bean’s win and it immediately happens. I just wanted to see live chat reaction to that mention lmao

[@deadbarkalt5840]

“This tower would be beaten by Myfart fully legitimately on OCTOBER 18” holy hell that’s my birthday

[@indwzz9441]

dude thats my birthday too!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@indwzz9441]

@@AlexH.81 say that to logan

[@Raynardbc]

My birthday Oct 19 :/

[@indwzz9441]

@@Raynardbc ooh

[@nolifer3844]

@@AlexH.81 Bro, how do you mix up the towers so badly? Myfart8101 beat TOGF LEGIT NOT TOER DUMMY and crystal beat TOER LEGIT NOT TOGF. Logan is talking about TOGF NOT TOER YOU GET NOW??

[@the_________]

“white sticky mess” *monster inc theme intensifies*

[@IcebBlueQ]

Citadel hurling unhealthy madness

[@IcebBlueQ]

C H U M

[@titan1464]

These are some of the best and most informative JToH videos I’ve watched, also GG on TT

[@superluigidummy]

d9vf has some good vids too

[@conorforreal9697]

he forgot the part where jastreet cheesed togf on release, which is how he got found out

[@Zerixilous]

if the range is between 12-14 towers, 12 towers ideally the best thing would be to confirm 2 towers for each difficulty in any case i do want to see both tocp:r and tocr coexist in game, it does more good than confirming only one would do because if only one of them got in there would be a group of manchildren creating an uproar over the one that didnt get in. plus having two polar opposite cata towers (one is relatively short and basically purist and one is very long and uses lots of really unique cos) would be pretty cool in my opinion lol

[@worktakestheW]

couldn’t have said it better, I agree 100%

[@orangeboiii.]

"white sticky mess" hol up

[@itszay6988]

Oh yes- *gets transfurred* AAAAAAAA

[@BaconPixx]

Coom tower

[@hau8856]

seme-

[@BILLYTHEOBBIEST]

LOL

[@robinisaiah1088]

@FurretWalc lol

[@orangeboiii.]

WTF I GOT AN 1 HOUR AD THAT TAKES 1 MIN TO SKIP IT BRUH

[@Logan_ISL]

What. The. Hell.

[@worktakestheW]

tf

[@shaded076]

wtf lol

[@whengaming9999]

“This white sticky mess” Me 7 years ago in kindergarten eating marshmallows:

[@Noobykid9999]

7 years ago? It goes from kindergarten to 1st grade so at 1st grade I was 6 years ago. Then go to 6th grade it was 1 year ago. That means yippee in 7th grade and your age is either 13 or 12 because I’m 10 and I’m in 4th grade

[@whengaming9999]

@@Noobykid9999 yes I am 12

[@formerly_xeni]

@@whengaming9999 same lol

[@Lucas_RedMicrowave]

@Fruit Team CUP!

[@anza2]

seeing how most people like ring 9 now, it’s interesting to see what the community thought it would be

[@sawyermerkle8835]

2:03 why did they put getting gnomed at difficult what

[@Pizarido]

1:09 11* 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓💀💀💀💀💀☠️☠️☠️☠️🧟‍♂️ (I love commenting 3 years late)

[@skraut6009]

Re watching this months later, lets just look at how there are now 3 catas in ring 9 lol

[@TurtlesWithFire]

what music is it when kaan first beated togf

[@errorobbies8907]

me whos looking at the ToIII gameplay 👁👄👁

[@IcebBlueQ]

Me

[@errorobbies8907]

@@IcebBlueQ :o

[@floppyboi01]

...

[@errorobbies8907]

@@floppyboi01 i mean, its interesting the gameplay

[@qusisooeu_4]

yez

[@crimsonicc]

8:46 that bass tho jeez

[@sushi7910]

"the tower would be beaten legitimately by my fart" why would you complete it and make this man say that lol

[@nolifer3844]

Because he made the username 5 years ago and does not have B O B U X to change the username.

[@nolifer3844]

@tsunami of the tsunami At that point, Roblox would probably be dead.

[@owikoh]

@@nolifer3844 see you in 4 years

[@nolifer3844]

@@owikoh probably not because i would either have quit JToH, died or got hacked.

[@owikoh]

@@nolifer3844 no I'm going to wait for 4 years and come back to this video to tell you if something happens and about you dying has a really low chance of being true

[@josephrichichi2877]

“White sticky mess” I really hope you didn’t just base cata off of a 3 letter word that starts with the letter c

[@sneake_r]

OH NO

[@LuteyBooty]

SHUT UP

[@netyaroze577]

man bazooka juice

[@LuteyBooty]

@@netyaroze577 DONT YOU DARE TELL ME

[@bigbluepikachu]

oh my god

[@hydraxic]

what video editor do you use? just wanna know, it looks really good.

[@protxgen8159]

In the video he says there are 9 ToER victors, and by the time I saw this we have multiple completions on a high horrific ToTRP (I even saw somebody beat it yesterday)

[@icensalt]

"I think both you and I know how bad the JTOH community is." 11:17 Tripping LOTS of fucking mines here, pal. Good video. Keep it up. Edit: Goddamn I feel old.

[@tomcatultimate]

why do people think the jtoh community is bad? its just a community that aims to create a game. i mean the game itself is kinda flawed, but idk why people have a negative vision for the jtoh community also im really sorry if i get things wrong here, i hardly come into the discord nor talk in it so i do not intend to hate on people trying to explain

[@ninjaandocean]

@@tomcatultimate since like 99% of content is made by the players, every time a dev makes or implements something everyone throws a hissy fit and screams like babies for a nerf rebalance or just to bully the creator Also there’s like a ton of underage kids who play jtoh so you know how that goes

[@imnotporki]

@@tomcatultimate because if anything happens the community will turn into crybabies

[@tomcatultimate]

@@imnotporki and why doesn't it apply to other communities? why does it only have to be *jtoh* with the crybabies

[@imnotporki]

@@tomcatultimate it does happen to other communities too

[@ciclon5682]

ToAAA was actually low catasthrophic when it was released (and when it was reviewed) but it got nerfed (and voted) down to high extreme. this marks just how difficulty it is to have a CAT difficulty tower since the boundaries betweeen extreme and CAT are way too blurry. with the only thing standing between them is the ammount of bullshit moments it can have. and also the opposite the barreir between CAT and joke tower are also very slim making the catasthropic tower scene a very niche standard due to the sheer challenge it poses building one. ToAAA was going headfirst into being CAT (wich was its intention to be the hardest tower ever on jtoh) going trough countless versions and revisions in an almost 2 year development time and still with all that effort it got voted out of CAT and had to be nerfed to fit the modern standards of world 2.

[@chinthestupedyay8778]

I thought CAT standed for climb a truss difficulty lmao

[@ribghost]

If space is a problem with having 2 cata towers, why not just make more space? I really have no idea if this is even allowed but this just seems obvious to think of.

[@immortalkeiji4451]

Why not think of lag

[@ribghost]

@@immortalkeiji4451 if you can get to ring 9, you can already assume your PC is good enough to handle something with 500x less graphics than like adopt me.

[@dizzy_jump]

1:06 11* easy 1 medium 2 hard 3 difficult 4 challenging 5 intense 6 remorseless 7 insane 8 extreme 9 terrifying 9 catastrophic 11

[@Ca1vin_]

in his previous video he said the CoCHS acronym in this video he said catastrophic is a "white sticky mess" idk if its intended or not but all these funny references kinda remind me of vince offer's commercials

[@tweeantelope7833]

8:17 Salveritie: about to beat ToNBA Kaan2005: beats ToGF Salveritie: ._.

[@subscribetobongowalrus]

When he said “White sticky mess” Me: WHY LOGAN BROH

[@anub6768]

7:24 I like how he says “spike”. Xd.

[@JJT-2237]

This is what I think should happen for ring 9, this is my opinion: I think that both ToCR and ToCPR should be in ring 9. I think this, because there is a part of the community that enjoys purist towers or doesn't mind them, and the other part of the community that likes client-sided objects. I do know that this IS a ring, therefore there are probably going to be 12-14 towers and half of them would be sc. This would mean that there would be 5-6 spots for sc towers that are easier than catastrophic. This would also mean that there would be 5-6 spots for Intense or Remorseless towers. (I think that Challenging should not be considered in this ring, since it's going to be the hardest ring out of all of them). One last thing, I know that a lot of players don't have enough skill to beat a catastrophic tower, but if you have to beat at least 60 towers, it would increase the chances of them having a chance at a cata tower. And for the obelisk, I think that there should be 2 safety nets and it would be high remorseless. Having the obelisk be low sc would cause controversy in my opinion.

[@hownray2115]

legends says hes still doing toiii to this day also i hope the account i put on poll is not my account for school

[@otp2962]

shit.

[@blakeisepic4470]

I think having intense as a starting difficulty is fine because when someone makes it to Ring 9, most likely that person has beaten a few intense towers and are likely enough to take down the intense towers of ring 9, although I do understand why you think challenging would be better because it would mean more towers would be beatable for people who maybe have only one or two intense towers.

[@hatemastertenn1048]

People who have unlocked ring 9 have at least has beaten 5+ intense towers or more/harder

[@RoinbinRobin]

2 insane 2 extreme 2 terryfing 2 cata only terryfing and cata have hidden rooms

[@owikoh]

what

[@sangeetadhaniaignoremyjtar2346]

Imagine if every sc is hidden (that's probably what's going to happen tbh)

[@thelolguy5446]

yes there arent any skips in togf anymore right

[@fx2_284]

dude i love this series so far please continue it lol

[@xinlidai1642]

great commentary but how many times did your voice crack

[@sefilifieday]

“This white sticky mess.” Is it white slime?

[@fuggycolor]

Logan out of context

[@jetnyan2348]

tower of champions road is already in game (sorta) in toif winroom if you walk back after beating it you will see a tocr easter egg

[@GoesByJ]

I don't really know why people don't like crazy hard towers. I'm new to this whole thing, and in most games I play, difficult levels and maps are praised. I'm not sure though, it's kinda cool.

[@maxxx6970]

I personally am looking for ToCP:R to go in bc I find it a lot more fun, also, everyone loves fren so if ToCP:R does go in people won’t be as mad as you’d think. Also, Ring 7 is a lot more popular than you’d think, it’s a whole lot of people’s favorite ring, and it’s definitely one of my favorite.

[@TaxesAreForNerds]

honestly both should go in

[@YocoSapph]

Both got in

[@tristantheoofer2]

since its teh final ring.... 7-8 sc's and 6-7 non-sc's. also teh obelisk should be insane difficulty with teh safety nets

[@jasonjagger7749]

14:21 there's also tower of watermelon i think its going to be in the game

[@imnotporki]

Was it nerfed? Because if not its gonna be high-borderline cata

[@shaded076]

@@imnotporki im pretty sure wasabi buffed it back to high cata lol

[@imnotporki]

@@shaded076 yes

[@Gang_Green5551]

This series is super cool, hope to see more

[@robinisaiah1088]

AGREED

[@mylesjt]

AGREED

[@worktakestheW]

AGREED

[@owikoh]

AG

[@mylesjt]

AG

[@teleglow1686]

“This white sticky mess has a lot of history” **W H A T**

[@leeyatnam]

What is a gbj

[@donviloria4584]

8:34 Ademiere was right below the timer lol

[@socialstudiesprojecyt297]

Who is watching this after ring 9 is released

[@icosahedrondodecahedraldual]

1:07 wait wait wait wait 12 DIFFICULTIES? Hold on, something’s wrong. Easy (1), Medium (2), Hard (3), Difficult (4), Challenging (5), Intense(6), Remorseless (7), Insane (8), Extreme (9), Terrifying (10), and Catastrophic (11). Where’s the 12th? I mean, if you count the Pit of Misery, there is a 12th difficulty. But there would be 13 if you add Horrific (12) and Unreal (13) so you would still be wrong.

[@FloridaManEvolved]

Thanos. Which as far as I'm aware, is banned.

[@elizabethbrown3646]

18:56 i agree with the subtitles

[@coolcaleb171]

we need horrifics soon

[@NotAU]

if totrp gets ingame when you beat it will you rebeat totrp

[@petterlarsson7257]

"White sticky mess" *o h n o .*

[@nobodyreadshandles]

"as ToAM was nerfed to terri" *after the ring 9 polls end ToAM becomes cata again* also, i know this was made WAY before ring 9 released

[@Burst644]

Nice in depth explanation

[@kitkatdaboss333]

15:19 “Floor 5 is completely furry”- Captions

[@bananman4672]

CoU is in the background 3:23

[@Null_079]

"to bond together in a civilized manner" hope you dream about it soon

[@happypoopylol8845]

Very amazing video, greatly describes the Cata difficulty but a bit outdated tho. (For the ppl who play FE2 go down) (ok so, if you look at the leaderboard you can see creeperreaper487, this is where i realise.. The creator of Overdrive play JToH now?!, theres definitely a source that says where creeperreaper went after he left FE2, but DANG, i wasnt expecting to find him in a 3 year old video on RING 8)

[@Oggy7894]

the more scs in game the more i can progress, i think a lot of scs are good but i wish ring 9s were spread out evenyly insted of being mostly catas and insanes

[@zek3193]

every time i accidently click on one of your videos my ears regret existing

[@nolifer3844]

Okay, this IS a ring NOT a zone. But, Ring 8 has 12 Towers and 1 Citadel so if it becomes Intense to Cata then both towers can get in with 2 towers per difficulty. Or, make one long Citadel for Challenging so 12 Tower and 1 Citadel just like Ring 8.

[@AbyssalStriike]

1 year into the future. Both cata nominees got into ring 9...

[@stupid5814]

13:13 sorry it was funny idk if it was a voice crack but LoL

[@Alex-kq5to]

Fun fact when todie released there was no vm barrier

[@ixhobi]

8:19 why they going crazy for a hard tower?

[@robinisaiah1088]

11:10 I was in that video lol

[@Phelena]

About two thirds should be soul crushing, I don't see a problem with having 2 intense and 2 remorseless towers. My skill level would only let me beat 2-3 of the towers in the world where I decide but I wouldn't care because it's the final ring. My DC: Intense Intense Remorseless Remorseless Insane Insane Extreme Extreme Terrifying Terrifying Catastrophic Catastrophic Low Insane Obelisk with one major safety net (and outside protection for about 3 floors) If there was just one cata I would never vote for ToCR because it just feels like a bad tower to me even though I generally like purist towers. There are more ways to make cata gameplay than truss spam.

[@Swarps]

Ring 9 will not have an obelisk.

[@Phelena]

@@Swarps 'My DC' The obelisk could be in TFS.

[@hampter562]

What about the “final stretch” ring .-.

[@TheBrokenVirus]

I’m a pretty good obbiest, but I can’t even do ToK because I’m not good at long length obbies lol

[@LaughGreatly]

Same lol

[@nolifer3844]

What's your hardest tower you've done?

[@TheBrokenVirus]

@@nolifer3844 I just completed Tower of Cold Hands, I bet with my skill level I could possibly beat ToTL

[@nolifer3844]

@@TheBrokenVirus ah yes, beating ToTL before any intense towers hmm yes, i beat ToTL before ToAST

[@TheBrokenVirus]

@@nolifer3844 I never said I beat ToTL

[@RY-d3R]

Friendly fart who is the closest to 100%: blablabla eieieeieiia

[@teckerr0r]

actually thegamerexeerr0r already beat the game a while ago

[@Logan_ISL]

@@teckerr0r nope. No one has beaten r8tr, meaning no one could have 100%’d the game.

[@arandomyoutubeuser8204]

What I think the Difficulty Chart should be: 1 Catastrophic 1 Terrifying 1 or 2 Extremes (most likely 1) 1 or 2 Insanes (most likely 2) Total: 5 SCs 3 Remorseless 3 Intense 2 Challenging (if considered) Total towers: 13. I think the Citadel should be possibly the hardest one in all of JToH (above Peril) or equal to Peril so at least the hardest Great Inferno Citadel.

[@arandomyoutubeuser8204]

To be more specific, Mid-High Catastrophic (Not harder than unnerfed Elongated, just below) Mid Terrifying High and Low Mid Extreme Low and High Insane (These seem okay as they equal out each other with other SCs imo like you can do the terrifying before or after Impossible Movement.)

[@arandomyoutubeuser8204]

For non-SCs, I'd say a High, Mid and Low Remorseless and it would be High and 2 mid Intenses but two High Challengings to make it more like the Original Ring 9 DC.

[@thelifeofibo]

and above CoQ since CoQ is harder than CoP and they are both in the game

[@gamerhurley]

ah yes, cows moment.

[@Movedchanelssss]

0:01 “juke’s towers of ell”

[@atanasijear9059]

he called catastrophic white sticky mess :flushed:

[@Fr_Fr102]

Kaan is the no boost man

[@BTN09-j5k]

I fell like there should be only 2 cata scs, not only ring 9 should not be so hard for people who suffer on hard towers still in ring 1 and it is not fair.

[@wyattstuntman8362]

1:07 there are 12 difficulties?

[@shaded076]

yes Easy Medium Hard Difficult Challenging Intense Remorseless (Every difficulty after this is SC.) Insane Extreme Terrifying Catastrophic These next 3 difficulties are removed: Horrific Unreal nil

[@wyattstuntman8362]

@@shaded076 that's 11 and 14 plus the removed difficulties

[@nightcoremarcus]

bro have you forgot about aekiyra beating ToER unnerfed not in-game T_T

[@fireserpent9854]

Not even close to unnerfed. It was a bit more difficult than the current in-game version, but nowhere near the unnerfed difficulty.

[@luksjutuber3558]

Nil is too hard to even describe with words, believe me.

[@Mike-739]

Toohard

[@hatemastertenn1048]

Alright here is my opinion. 14 Towers (13 Towers and 1 Citadel) Beginner Towers: Intense Intense Remorseless Intermediate Towers: Remorseless Insane Advanced Towers: Insane Extreme Extreme Psychologically Unsafe Towers: Terrifying Terrifying Main SCs: Terrifying Catastrophic Catastrophic Citadel: Remorseless

[@ben54545]

I think too hard. Good idea though!

[@worktakestheW]

@@ben54545 yeah pretty hard, but if you have r9 it should be good

[@justsomerandommortal2159]

When kaan beat ToGF i was stuck in the basement of CoLS lol

[@notaidan4451]

1) Gamma’s message on TFS wasn’t a concrete fact. I was there during numerous discussions about TFS. It was more-so a possibility (though a somewhat high one. And the point about the difficulty definitely wasn’t concrete fact.) 2) It has been stated numerous times that Ring 9 will most likely be around 75% SC. 3) I don’t think 2 catastrophic towers is a bad idea. It is, the final ring, and the greatest challenge of W1. It is more challenge for the experienced players. Yes, that is a small percentage, but that group is certainly there. The less skilled population already have a ton of content (over 90 non-SC towers in W1), I don’t think adding more content for the more skilled playerbase will do any harm. 4) Honestly, I don’t think your point about ToCR being more popular than ToCP is accurate. ToCR only seems more popular because it has been around for much longer. Overall, I wouldn’t be surprised if a decent majority of the community prefers ToCP, for numerous reasons.

[@worktakestheW]

I agree with these statements

[@nolifer3844]

Point A: I pretty sure at least 50% of the community have already unlocked Ring 9. Point B: adding more and more content can be harmful is because of too many towers like me right now, should i try to beat ToDC and be done with Ring 2? Do i try to beat Forgotten Ridge? Should i try to beat ToIII? Point C: ToCP:R is the one that the commnity has their eyes on the most and Purism being hated as it is seen as a lame way to not use COs or the Kit, This was said in the video. And the reason is because of ToTL being one of the worst SC towers and ToHH having no other colo(u)rs other then black and white.

[@Jerry2805_]

Nice 1000 subs logan

[@cuberman5948]

What's the colour palate of ToGF!?

[@qusisooeu_4]

Purple shade 1-4 floors 5 cyan floor 6 yellow floor and red shade 7-10 floor

[@dipstikkc]

why did I think this was KonekoKitten because of his voice bruh

[@koiii_3245]

😂

[@SoNiels]

Great, awesome video Logan!

[@BaconPixx]

Maybe 2 cata would be good for the last ring before tfs

[@cyantechnician7823]

So ToCN was Intense now it’s remorseless?

[@Rimeks442]

i think there should be 7-8 SC's and 7-8 non sc's

[@agentd901]

Juke's Towers of Hell Flawed: Juke's Towers of Hell

[@vneptunian]

“White sticky mess”

[@zadfoe]

dont do this

[@agoodusername6665]

*c9m*

[@nayte46]

Personally, I think both ToCR and ToCPR should be added, but one of the should be nerfed to mid cata, (thats not gonna be likely) But as in personal preference, both are amazing towers, with ToCR making purist towers not boring and bland, and ToCPR (revamp) pushing the limits of wacky jumps and non-purism

[@sangeetadhaniaignoremyjtar2346]

Tocp got nerfed to a mid cata so gg pro

[@shaded076]

@@sangeetadhaniaignoremyjtar2346 high cata again now lul

[@gamerhurley]

@@shaded076 peak cata cry - jtoh devs