Logitech PRO Wheel Pt.2 Hands on Review & Should you buy one?

1 Week in review of the Logitech Pro racing wheel and pedals. Is this for you? and should you buy it?
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[@RJ-cq8dd]

I have this wheel too and it feels perfect. Really all the sensations that you expect from racing in a real car. I hope it becomes a success so Logi will keep supporting it with new wheels and a shifter. I can't stand the people complaining about the price. This kind of quality comes with a pricetag, deal with it.

[@cjclarkson3767]

Hey man, Just thought I'd drop you a comment of encouragement! I'm watching from the United States, and I really like the style and feel of your videos. Super helpful content, breakdowns, and recommendations. It seems you're well on your way to creating a solid youtube channel for yourself! Keep up the amazing work.

[@meesamods]

Thanks for the kind words CJ I appreciate the feed back. Mitch

[@pbsml]

Really well done- had watched a few videos on this wheel/pedal setup and yours were the final ones before pulling the trigger on ordering it. Now waiting a week before delivery :) You hit on all areas that most reviews neglect, which were the difference makers for me. Keep up the videos- you're crushing it. Cheers from Florida :)

[@meesamods]

Thanks so much for the kind words Sean I appreciate the feedback and I’m glad you got something out it. I hope you and your family had a great Christmas Mitch

[@timreeves6901]

W u finding it? Just pulled the trigger on one myself

[@pbsml]

@@timreeves6901 I was worried I wouldn't like it as much as I was hoping, but it's incredible. Such a huge step up from the G29 I was using. So so glad I got it. Took a bit to get used to the brakes more than anything else, but was definitely worth it! Enjoy yours when you get it. Anxious to hear your thoughts. (also, the accuracy in the steering is an enormous upgrade!)

[@lukemcculloch9730]

Good video mate, got the other week and love it, I was also pleasantly surprised that the vibrations throughout the rig are like a butt kicker feels very immersive. Keep up the good vids mate 😊

[@meesamods]

Thanks for the kind words mate. I appreciate the feedback Mitch

[@GeniusPC]

great review, great convo with the audience.

[@meesamods]

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it Mitch

[@stalkerbuts4193]

I just got mine and found your review very accurate awesome job mate

[@meesamods]

Thanks mate. They are So good how are you finding it so far?

[@bigt43]

Grateful for your review of this newer Logitech offering. I have had a G29 for a long time, but had no where I could set it up that was close enough to driving position so for ages I'd barely sampled what it felt like to use, anyways I got myself the NLR GT lite just over a month ago and have since been enjoying the G29 a lot, but I'm a die hard petrol head, and driving on the streets can't fulfill my petrol head needs lol and since I'm looking to fulfill those needs with as much realism as I can afford, although it's great to finally use my g29 with a seat built for it, I'm finding that deadzone on it breaks the immersion (excuse my rambling 🤭) I'm seriously going to have to figure out how to afford a direct drive wheel ASAP since learning about the difference, I've looked at fanatec and thrustmasters in the past but that was before I'd even really used my g29 properly, and I'm kinda brand loyal and now Logitech has this offering, so if you do any more content on this direct drive Logitech wheel, Im sure I'll be watching them to see whether it's the one I'll be buying as soon as I can afford DD. PS, I'm glad you mentioned that the forces from the wheel do kick via the gaming rig, as I suspected it would when I was watching a previous review, but they were using it bolted to a surface not connected to their chair so they didn't get that perk, but I'm sure I'll appreciate that hidden feature lol. I'm also on PlayStation btw and love GT7, other than that I play dirt 2.0, project cars 1 nd 2, (if you haven't tried project cars I'd recommend trying to purchase copies of them (I hear project cars 3 went more arcade so never bought that) but check them 1 and or 2 out they have IMO better ffb detail than GT7, although not all cars are equal on them, but some are fantastic.

[@meesamods]

Hey Big T, I’m glad you got something out of the video there will be plenty of content coming on this wheel. Including a compatability test and settings across a heap of different titles and I will be trying project cars for sure as there has been a few people recommend now. Being on console you will have the same problem I did. There are not a lot of choices for dd wheels at this stage only the fanatec line up and the Logitech. Both are good options with the fanatec dd wheel and base combo being slightly cheaper than the Logitech one but is also less powerful. I’m saying that 8nm is still going to feel a million times more strong than the g29. I am by no means an expert on racing wheels but I am happy to answer any questions you may come up with in the future. Just a side note if/ when you start looking you will be constantly reminded that there are cheaper options But 99% of them are only for pc. As I said earlier us console people don’t have a lot of options at this stage. Hope you had a good Xmas mate Mitch

[@001sander2]

Thanks for the excellent detail, I’m weighing between this and the Fanatec DD ✌🏽

[@meesamods]

I don’t think you will be disappointed regardless of what way you decide to go. They are both great options. Mitch

[@davidhack1974]

I also like that you do not feel the need to Backround noise/music to your video as some reviewers feel compelled to do. well; done mate.

[@aivatron1]

not sure why no ones mentioned youre review with the amazing driving in the background, GG

[@meesamods]

Thanks for the kind words Aivatron Mitch

[@davidhack1974]

I like this video, you do not rush you delivery like some do (some really gabble) i am very tempted to go for this wheel/pedal set, the pedals especially because i have large feet.

[@meesamods]

Hey David, Thanks for the feed back. I’m glad you liked the video. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions about the wheel I am more than happy to try and answer them for you. Mitch

[@TigerWoodsOffical]

Never watched your stuff before but great review, earned yourself a new follower and maybe just sold a wheel.

[@meesamods]

Thanks for the kind words Jalen. I appreciate it. I hope you have a great Christmas and a happy new year. Mitch

Greetings from 🇫🇮 and thanks for the informative video

[@meesamods]

G’day Mate. You are most welcome. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions river if there’s anything you want me to try with this wheel. Hope you are well. Mitch

[@toohard2beat]

Great job on the vid. Appreciate it.

[@meesamods]

Hey TheRealLennan, Thanks for the kind words mate Mitch

[@rodmorgan7041]

I got the G Pro wheel and Pedals just after they came out and I think they are great. I stepped up from the G29 and the difference is amazing. Tried to get a Fanatec, (only because of the name), but nothing else was available here in Australia at that time. And I can tell you I certainly don't regret buying this kit. I have it clamped to my very solid computer desk and it never even moves. Mine is set at 9nm which I use for F1 2022 and thats ideal for me, and like you say there is room to go more. But maybe if they had waited a little longer, they could have given 2 wheel options, because I would have gone for a Formula style wheel. And after spending over 2k on this kit I will be waiting a little while to update the wheel, if it comes. But don't get me wrong, this wheel is fantastic and I don't regret spending that money at all. Your options saying if people should buy it or not are spot on and said in a good way. Thanks for the great review. 👍

[@meesamods]

G’day Rod, Thanks for the kind words mate I appreciate the feed back and I am glad you love you wheel as much as I do. Take it easy Mitch

[@vadimyakus]

All the DD wheels are good and this is all about a preference of style, ergonomics and design now. Especially the pedals.

[@Sir.YeetusIII]

great video man!

[@meesamods]

Thanks mate I appreciate the feedback. Hope you have a great Xmas and new year. Mitch

[@Sir.YeetusIII]

@@meesamods likewise!

[@johnvillafane448]

Thanks!!!! Your video was helpful

[@meesamods]

G’day John , No problems I’m glad you got something out of it. Mitch

[@demechelsegamecat6518]

Great review 👊 Did you try to use the analog shifters as handbrake? Or can you only use them as a clutch?

[@meesamods]

Thanks for the kind words 😊 I haven’t tried that but it’s a good idea. I’ll have a look when I get home

[@Blackbird_Rally]

Hey bro, really enjoyed this vid- but would you mind doing a part 2.5 where you do a bit of a deeper dive into using it for rallying? Cheers from the UK bud

[@meesamods]

Hey blackbird rally, I sure can. What kind of deep dive are you looking for? Mitch

[@Blackbird_Rally]

@@meesamods mate, just how it feels, is it compatible with various rally titles, were there any dramas setting it up etc. It's a bit out of my budget at present but from your video it's something I'm very much keeping an eye on... Maybe I could sell the wife? 😂

[@meesamods]

Hahaha fair enough. Are you on console or pc?

[@Blackbird_Rally]

@@meesamods ps4 mate

[@meesamods]

Easy I will throw something together for rallying

[@killerweed8260]

Hi mate try rf2 on pc it has Bathurst I think you might like that track also great work 👍

[@meesamods]

I do love some Bathurst racing haha thanks for the tip I will add it to the list Mitch

[@nzmike7497]

Great video - watched it twice back to back :-). I'm in Australia as well (Bathurst is my favourite track of all time, it rocks in GT7!) and was planning to get the new Fanatac DD Pro combo but the more of reviews I watch on the G Pro the more I think I might buy one - at least you can get them in Australia though I may wait for a few months for special offers to start appearing at places like JB Hifi. Coming from a Thrustmaster T300RS GT which I like but is just very poorly support in GT7 and other games where the FFB is almost non-existent.

[@meesamods]

Thanks for the kind words mate. Both wheels are a good choice. Me personally I think the g pro wheel feels better than the dd but it has its cons as well at the moment like the lack of peripherals and customisation. It should be coming but like all things Logitech we won’t know it’s coming haha. If you do the Logitech way I am curious to know what’s your opinion on the true force is. Some love it some hate it haha If you have any questions or anything you want to know about I’m always happy to help out

[@supercededman]

I have both. Believe me, you will not regret buying the G Pro over the DD Pro. Both are good, but the Logi is superior.

[@jed2055]

@@supercededman Thanks for the product purchase reinforcement. Think about it. Logitech aren't stupid. Fanatec are bleeding so now is the time to release a wheel and other peripherals which I am 100% certain Logi will do and in the next 4 months. ie October, 2024 ready for the Christmas frenzy. I reckon this year will be big retail-wise after us fully exiting the Covid era.

[@gage5650]

After weighing the pros & cons between the Logitech Pro and the Fanatec GT DD. I decided that while he trueforce of Logitech while compelling that Fanatec had the better overall platform for the money and ordered the 8NM GT DD base, CSL Elite Wheel and v3 Pedals. The deciding factors were many YT sim reviewers reviewers were turning down the Logitech Pro force from 11Nm to around 8Nm anyways and were also turning trueforce down or totally off. Also the reviewers overwhelmingly said the V3 pedals were much better design and build quality than the Logitech pedals at that price point. Plus Fanatec already has a wide range of wheels and also sell a high quality shifter and handbrake peripherals. If Logitech Pro had also introduced other comparable peripherals, it'd have been a tougher decision.

[@meesamods]

Hey Gage O, All very valid points and you will not be disappointed with the fanatec. It good timing as well as last I saw the fanatec stuff was in stock again. At least it was in Australia. You will have to let me know what your thoughts are when you get the fanatec stuff. Hopefully I will catch you on track some time Mitch

[@bud1042]

you can set your lower paddle's to brake in the wheel settings and set that as handbrake, give a little more feel, but I want a hand brake

[@meesamods]

Yeah I tried running it like that for a bit but it just isn’t the same and it isn’t usable for drifting so easily

[@richardneville6304]

@meesamods in AC on PC, try turning the minimum force setting down to zero and also check with various cars (some mods can have unusual FFB behaviours in stronger wheels) - that should address the oscillation you were getting.

[@meesamods]

G'day Richard Thanks for the tips I will try it again tomorrow and see how it goes. Mitch

[@kbaeve]

I had the G923 for...... 7 days 😂 now i ordered these. Im so looking forward too it. Thanks for this great breakdown!

[@meesamods]

G’day Kenneth, You are most welcome 😊 Wow that is a quick turn around between wheels haha. You won’t be disappointed with the bigger wheel. Can I ask what turned away from your current wheel so quickly? Take it easy Mitch

[@kbaeve]

@@meesamods yo! Sure! Well, I have one friend in my discord that recommend me 923 for starters. I was a bit unsure, as I never had wheels, but as I finally got a PS5 and GT7, and figure I actually really really enjoy the game (haven't done since GT3,4 and 5), I gave it a shot. It opened another dimension for sure, and after a week I just seem to want more and more racing game so I just f it, let's go for it. I was torn between Fanatec GT DD and Thrustmaster TGTII for a while as I thought this one seemed a bit expensive. However, I live once - I went with it. You and several other reviewers certainly didn't make the choice more difficult either (well maybe except the fact the pedals is not quite as good as fanatec) 😂👍

[@meesamods]

Haha fair enough

[@jed2055]

Samo! But my "new" well looked after but used G923 stopped working! I think i broke it with a bad USB cable. Only took me 2 days. I cried and asked the CFO and she said yes, go buy the G Pro. It took me 3 minutes to get it done in case she changed her mind. Whew!

[@Krayziedad]

U can easily plug in a handbrake from thrustmaster and a shifter right? Nice video

[@meesamods]

Honestly I am not sure. I would like to think something that simple would work and it may on pc but console is usually more complicated

[@jimski5358]

You could try and bind the clutch pedal as a hand brake for ps5

[@Jpilgrim30]

From someone who’s played the upgrade game going down the rabbit hole over the years I say spend the money right off of the bat and if you don’t want to stick with it then sell it for little loss and move on. Chances are you will be upgrading anyways if you go with a g29 or something plus the direct drive wheel may make the experience so much more enjoyable that it makes the difference as to whether you stick with sim racing or not.

[@meesamods]

Very good point I think if you have the money there to throw around then definately. But for a lot of people that kind of money is a big expense which if it is a risky purchase may turn people away. I see points for both side and both are completely valid

[@murrijuana2842]

@@meesamods a poor man pays twice.

[@Substance2020]

Exactly. Start with a quality wheel and build around it in future. No point having a mediocre wheel surrounded by better additions.

[@MasterCamus]

Hey mate, do you get an issue with GT7 where when you first start the game the wheel feels stiff. You then change any config in the wheel and go back to what it was and the actual wheel settings kick it in?

[@meesamods]

Hey Camus I can’t say I have had that one. The only bug I have had is where it starts vibrating outside of a race. The closest I have had to that is on pc games the wheel is super still on the first play and I have to dial it back

[@carlgray6764]

hi not sure if you have rFactor 2 because with the G Pro wheel the feel/feedback is pretty immense! i ran a G29 for many years ... and nearly bought the fanatec equivalent ... but when i saw the logitech wheel for me personally it ticked all the right boxes . its just a simplified setup/user experience .

[@meesamods]

G’day Carl, I haven’t played rf 2 yet but you are not the first one to suggest it. It is on my ever growing list of games to try. Is there much to do in terms of set up for it? Mitch

[@carlgray6764]

@@meesamods as with all pc games one setting can make or break the experience but with rf2 i think the trueforce setting doesn't provide vibration ... but more heft to the wheel feel ... and racing down the nords its pretty intense / and rewarding all at the same time !

[@ShebanFPV]

Great and detailed review! I have watch part 1 also 👍🏻 well done mate 👌🏻 i’ve been looking to buy a steering set for ages now, still unsure 🤷🏻‍♂️ With your experience, which one would you buy, new Logitech or Fantec or something else? Thanks!

[@meesamods]

Hey Sheban, That’s a good and hard question and sorry about the long reply there are a lot of aspects to this and there is more than one answer. This answer is based on my experience which is aimed at console gaming so I don’t really know a lot about the pc specific wheels eg moza and the likes If it was purely about the wheel the fanatec ecosystem gives you more options to expand peripherals and wheelbases are all compatible to with all of their other stuff so you could start at a dd but then change to the podium without having to replace pedals and peripherals etc the Logitech sits in the middle in terms of power so it might not need to be upgraded depending on personal preference. I think either wheel would be a good choice. It honestly depends on what you are after and your budget and how big of a set up you would want to run. The other big factor is what you can actually get your hands on eg fanatec was impossible to get when I was looking might have changed now. Additionally if you are looking at playing on console as well it cuts your options right down. If I was starting from scratch and had no sim racing experience and everything was instock I would probably look at the thrustmaster tgt2 or Logitech g923 or something around there and use the money you save to buy a rig/ stand. You can always upgrade the wheel and pedals at a later date. If you have the extra cash I would work my up from there and probably look into the fanatec dd with 8nm boost. Regardless of what wheel you get you will have a good time Breaking it down financially if you ran an entry level seat like the NLR GT extreme it will cost you about $650 AUD then add the cost of the wheel/pedals will add anywhere from $400-$4000. It definately is not a cheap hobby to get into. Hopefully this helps and doesn’t make it more complicated for you Mitch

[@ShebanFPV]

@@meesamods Hi, Mitch! A Massive Thank you for the huge and comprehensive reply with all the explanations. I'm a motorsport man myself, albeit semi-professional. Participated in many circuit racing, time attack, rallyX events on a proper vehicle with a safety cage etc. I know how expensive any sport is )))) I just wanted to buy something decent, that wont go out of date tomorrow, to be able to have joy and feel the wheel (response, feelings) as realistic as in a real car, plus the kids are growing up and my wife is a poor driver 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♂️ I reckon a simulator is a much cheaper option than a new decommissioned car for 70+k 😅 also I have a couple proper bucket seats and helmets, for the full immersion 😂

[@meesamods]

That is very true real cars are expensive haha I have lost count of how much I blew on mine haha. In you situation I would definitely look at the direct drive wheels and skip the cheaper ones it sounds like you would get the most benefit out of that. Much better feeling and a lot more detail than the belt/ gear driven wheels.

[@meesamods]

Yeah the bucket seat adds a lot to it that was the first thing I changed on my wheels stand and have never looked back

[@ShebanFPV]

@@meesamods yeah, gaming (toy) wheels are garbage, they have nothing in common with real wheel and driving, except the shape 😅 i’ve been crushing nearly at every corner 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JeancarloRibas]

Hello friend, In Gran Turismo 7, practically on all steering wheels the vibration of the curbs does not exist. Due to trueforce does that feeling exist in this new Logitech? Congratulations on the video.

[@meesamods]

G’day Jeancarlo, The true force does add a few extra details in. I have been able to feel the curbs in GT. It is a bit of a balancing act as the true force also gives you engine vibration which can be a little over powering at times hence I turned it down a bit. The extra torque this wheel has also helps to make up for it. I will do some extra testing and let you know Mitch

[@kpudgar]

With this wheel you can surely feel the curbs! My previous wheel was the T-GT II which too had some additional transducer feedback effects but you couldn’t feel the rumble strips. With the Pro wheel you have to have controller vibration turned on and then you can regulate how much of the Trueforce effects come throgh. Having the vibration on 20% you can feel the full spectrum of additional car and road details and I used to run it up to 55% for maximum driving and feel immersion. Anything above 55% was way too overwhelming and too vibrational-uncomfortable and distracting. Talkin’ ‘bout GT7 here only.

[@buddy5088]

Can you try dirt rally 2? Thanks in advance mate!!

[@meesamods]

Hey Buddy will do Mitch

[@cat-yi9cg]

Hey if u have any wheel mods for the g29 that u want to sell or whatever let me know. Ty and great video

[@meesamods]

Hey I don’t really have anything to sell from the old rig but you can find boss kits to 3d print online and you can install any wheel you like. The down side is the wheel is not powerful enough to run it properly without maxing everything out so do this at your own risk. I have also seen a few replacement wheels on Amazon that look remotely f1 like. As for the hand brake mod you can modify any old cheap hand brake to do it just gotta install a button and some wires but you will need to completely disassemble your wheel to solder the wires onto the terminals of one of the other buttons. It can be rather fiddley - again do at your own risk as it is a bit in depth

[@Powerpoint4]

Got one myself and I love mine and fully understand the buttkicker comment. Have you got the same issue that you get mild vibration through the steering wheel after a couple of hours racing when in menus etc? I end up turn it off and putting it back on to stop the vibration

[@meesamods]

Hey mate can’t say I have had that issue yet. What game are you on or is it on multiple games? Mitch

[@Powerpoint4]

@@meesamods it is in Gran Turismo 7, But I've heard people having same on ACC on pc too. Hopefully a firmware issue that will be resolved

[@meesamods]

I will keen an eye out for it thanks for the heads up

[@meesamods]

Hey mate can confirm I get this as well after a few hours of playing. It doesn’t affect the way it drives. I will be interested to see if they patch it in the next few firmware updates

[@supercededman]

The buttkicker comment is spot on. I have a NLR foldable rig, too, and love the way the wheelbase gives vibrations to me!

[@dionmcmurrick7997]

For some reason I can’t copy paste the recommend Logitech settings for every game ! Just set acc at 1080 angle it’s totally diff amazing anyway hope you find the recommended ? I’m on a fan page on fb that had a link

[@meesamods]

Thanks for the info Dion I will give that a crack tonight

[@richnick1911]

I have the G29 and just upgraded to the pro. Waiting for delivery.

[@meesamods]

Hey Rich Nick That’s so good. You will have to let me know what you think of it when you get it all set up and racing Mitch

[@f1luukvandijk]

I would love to see with f1 23 game when it comes out 😅

[@meesamods]

I’ll definately give it a go haha

[@rickarmedwithamind4464]

Ordered my wheel and pedals Friday havent received any shipping info yet so fingers crossed it doesn't get cancelled, how long from order did it take you to receive your wheel, also I will be playing on xbox series x.

[@meesamods]

G’day Rick. Mine took about 2 weeks to turn up from order. Finger crossed everything goes well. Mitch

[@buddy5088]

Same. I ordered mine Friday. I spoke with Logitech Support prior to ordering. They assured me the wheel and pedals were in stock and I should receive them relatively quick. One thing I should mention, the pedals were discounted when I purchased the set. Plus, I used a promo code which gave me another 50.00 off. Good luck mate.

[@dionmcmurrick7997]

@@buddy5088 ordered mine from gamesmen in Sydney I live in Victoria sent it Monday here Wednesday arvo amazing

[@Dave062YT]

Damn ..Aussies have to wait ages for delivery.I was pissed off mine tooj 5 day [NL to UK]but I did pay £10 extra for 2-3 day delivery

[@teggsy2165]

Mine took 4 days from the Netherlands to the UK but had mine over 2 weeks or more now.

[@skynick77]

Hello @meesamods, how is it going with your G Pro after a few months now? I have to decide between this one (bundle with pedals) and GT DD pro Fanatec as I’m PS5 😢 Sorry if you’ve already covered a long term review, just discovered you and watched a couple of videos of yours. Thanks

[@meesamods]

Hey Skynick, welcome and I hope you are doing well. I still love mine and have zero regrets about buying it. It hasn’t skipped a beat. Having driven both the dd and mine Logitech one I personally prefer the feel of the Logitech. The only thing that lets us down is the customisation extra wheels shifter etc. it wasn’t a show stopper for me but for some it is. Both are good wheels and feel incredible in comparison to the entry level wheels like the g920 wheels and the likes Feel free to reach out if you have any questions I am more than happy to share the info and experiences with the wheel. Have a good one Mitch

[@skynick77]

Thanks Mitch for your kind reply. I started simracing with TGT2 and Tlcm pedals, and want to give a try to a Direct Drive one. Unfortunately for PS5 there are just those two options, I found so many different experiences with Fanatec, confusing me a lot. Logitech Pro seems to be a bit more reliable. I will wait until the next Black Friday and see what discount both will offer, considering also the new QR2 in fanatec seems to be a problem solvers. Very difficult choice indeed. I’m happy you’re satisfied about your Logitech Pro, I like the Trueforce add on, would add some extra feeling in ACC where I usually play.

[@davidshekhter5284]

Im receiving mine tomorrow. Can you share the settings for GT7 for the wheel, the in game settings, trueforce percentage, and pedal setup (I understand it comes with stiffners etc.)??? I know its alot but would be greatly appreciated and Logitech users would have a resource for a comprehensive setup.

[@technogov2]

The biggest difference for me is true force. I'd like more wheel options, but I prefer function over form. I do wish the wheel was a bit thicker and padded but it's solid and quality is very good. Logitech people on reddit have hinted at 4 new peripherals debuting in 2024. A strong rig is a must.

[@davidshekhter5284]

Update. Had the Logitech wheel and pedals for about a month set up to the omega prime lite aluminum rig. It's amazing, simply put. I use gloves but can easily drive without them and the true force feels great and there's plenty of power in the wheel. I'm set to 8.2 nm with a total of 11 available. Not sure I'll ever go that high as I'm really happy with the current setting.

[@NicOz42]

BeamNG is definitely the fun one I want more sim racers to get into

[@meesamods]

It is crazy fun that one always good for a laugh

[@spammed5636]

you seem like a good ass guy! great review

[@meesamods]

Thanks mate I appreciate the kind words. Mitch

[@kingofkings89pl]

This is the best wheel on market. It have vibrations & pro features. Top of the top :) Imagine that with PS VR 2 with Gran Turismo 7 on PS5 ;)

[@meesamods]

I am super keen for psvr2 racing. Hopefully the motion sickness isn’t as bad as the last vr gt haha

[@kingofkings89pl]

@@meesamods they say it's free of that. BTW I don't it settings that got me out of this feeling on OG OS VR. But on standard settings it was nightmare. BTW let's hope "American Nightmare" will win big one at WrestleMania!!!! :D

[@GT7_LogitechG]

Thank you for this video! I just got my wheel but it was not calibrated straight. It was off by 3-4 degrees. Did restart, calibrate, updated firmware but it didn't fix. Since Logitech doesn't do exchange I had to return it and rebuy a new one. Hope I get a good copy. Did you have this problem or is your wheel alighted straight?

[@meesamods]

Oh that sucks gt7 . I didn’t have that issue with mine, you are the first one I have heard of having that issue

[@meesamods]

Does it sit crooked? When you look at it on the ghub software can you straighten it and it sits on zero?

[@GT7_LogitechG]

@@meesamods when I looked at it on G hub and set the wheel where it sits perfectly straight it was 3-4 degrees off. In the game for the car to drive straight I have to tilt the wheel to the right. If it's like 1 degree it may be negligible and I may have just kept that wheel but I could not accept 3 degrees for a $1000 wheel. My new one is getting here on Tuesday!

[@GT7_LogitechG]

I also looked up this problem it seems like there are others who are experiencing the same issue. So your wheel is perfectly straight then?

[@meesamods]

@@GT7_LogitechG unlucky mate. Indeed it is straight

[@EdCapone]

Where do u dial down the true force in GT7?

[@meesamods]

It is not something you can change in the game it is in the onboard wheel settings. Going from memory it’s the TF audio setting or something along those lines. When I get home from work I will double check

[@jordy700]

I have this wheel since a month for the PS5. But it doesn't calibrate in the middle, it's slighte of to the left, like 1,5%. What about yours?

[@meesamods]

Hey Jordy, I can’t say mine has had that issue and it calibrates in the middle but, you are not the first person I have heard of having this issue. I’m not sure if they found a fix for it and I know some of the took it back for replacement. It might be worth checking the forums to see if there is a fix. Mitch

[@marklamb72]

It is my understanding that the G hub software for PC will allow you to recalibrate the wheel center point. I’m not sure if this carries over back to PlayStation but anyway…

[@diesottodrives]

Cool channel. Thank you! Greetings from Ukraine :)

[@meesamods]

Hey Diesotto drives, I’m glad you like it and thanks for the kind words. Mitch

[@kason9194]

What happens for example in GT7 if I set the max torque to 5/10 and on the wheel I set it to say 5 nm? Does this mean the effective max torque would be 2.5 nm?

[@meesamods]

Essentially yes

[@meesamods]

I usually run the wheel at max and use the ingame settings to adjust it. It is less fidely imo

[@Davids6994]

Better xbox or ps version on pc?

[@meesamods]

I think they are identical on pc would just depend on if you intend on playing on a console at anypoint

[@aliasangelalias]

Does this PRO wheel work with DIRT Rally 2.0, Automoblista 2, CarX Drift Racing Online, and Wreckfest? Thank you for your help kind sir.

[@meesamods]

Hey aliasangelalias, It does work on dirt rally 2.0 I tested that one a few weeks ago. The others I haven’t tried yet. I do have carx already installed and ready to go so I will report back on that one and the others. Mitch

[@aliasangelalias]

@@meesamods Wow nice, thank you! Can't wait for your answer before I invest into this massive beast of a price tag.

[@meesamods]

Yeah it is a fairly hefty price tag don’t get me wrong. But it is pretty good for what you get and if the g29 was compatible this wheel will work aswell as it has compatability modes

[@aliasangelalias]

@@meesamods 2 months ago I purchased the TH's T248 along with TH8A shifter and Ebake. After seeing many people talking about direct drive base, I'm thinking of returning my T248 and opt with a direct drive system. There are so many different brands out there competing at this price range or less. Not sure which one I would go for. Logitech Pro Wheel, Fanatic DD Pro 8NM, Moza R9, T818 by TM... just to name a few.

[@meesamods]

Yeah direct drive is the way to go if it is an option. However it is not the only option it depends on how happy you are with what you have. If you do look at the dd path thing to note the Logitech hasn’t got any peripherals ebrake, shifter alternate wheels etc probably not so much an issue if you race purely on pc but it is on console. Not sure where you are from but I’m in Australia and fanatec stuff has been impossible to get for about 9 months now.

[@Smoozable]

is it gear driven or belt driven ??

[@meesamods]

Hey Legendofwartotal, It is direct drive so no belts or gears in this one Mitch

[@teggsy2165]

Had my bundle for around 2 weeks very happy with itbut have to say i can not stand the Trueforce on at all it makes the most awful noise over the game sounds if you play on lower volume,i play Dirt Rally 2 and the original Assetto Corsa i wish the steering wheel had backlit buttons though and the matalic blue wheel centre band as it has the blue around the little joy stick and and dials seems daft to make the centre marker dark like the wheel it no longer catches the eye the same,otherwise it's a very premium bundle for the price i paid £1212.48p oh i only have PC no consoles.

[@meesamods]

Hey Teggsy I know what you mean about the true force. I turned mine right down to about 10-20% in the wheel settings and it didn’t lose too much feeling but reduced the overpowering feeling of the true force and cut the noise down as well. How are you finding dirt rally 2? that is the next game on my list to test

[@teggsy2165]

@@meesamods Game supports the wheel ignore Logitech's advise on their site to run it in G923 mode the game supports Trueforce too or so it's settings suggest i still turn it off not worth the horrible noise and whine it makes above 10%,you have to play around with every car in the game as they all behave differently as there's so many events as you already know if you own or have looked at it the Pro Wheel is so smooth and the pedals are descent too nice bundle i still have no regrets with mine yet the fact you can ajust alot on the wheel itself is great if you pause the game for a few seconds on a straight stretch or road or track.

[@dannymallants5464]

try to test eurotruck simulator or american truck simulator with the logtech pro wheel if you can greetings

[@meesamods]

Hey Danny. I will add it to the list. Thanks for the recommendation. Mitch

[@dionmcmurrick7997]

Hey great review agree with what you said I got my new G pro wheel pedals Wednesday absolutely love it just blows me away !! I race Acc at 6.5 -7 torque prob could go fraction higher gt7 not much higher I feel it right through my sim also it’s like butt kicker turned on like you said !! Can’t believe the quality in the build just absolutely beautiful.. how’s that leather smell haha !! Glad I bought it been playing ACC GT7 F1 22 WRC generations and dirt 5 !! Doing races on ACC just makes you fully sweat with the force feedback .. got brakes set at 25 now had them at 35 -40 but I’m learning more everyday will take a while to fully set up all presets 1-5 as I want them love how you can change on wheel with great oled little screen Thanks again

[@dionmcmurrick7997]

And I also love how you can charge pulse headset by plugging in on wheel base not on ps5 that’s so handy !!! Also love the cover it comes with keeps dust off

[@meesamods]

Thanks dion I am so glad you love you wheel as much as I do and I’m glad I’m not the only one who love the leather smell hahaha. I never even thoutght to change stuff direct from the base haha good point to remember

[@meesamods]

Hey Danny can confirm it does work on euro truck simulator just fine. You will have to map the buttons and the pedals. But after that it works fine

[@mrgauth]

Would actually play racing games if I could justify one of these wheels. Nice.

[@meesamods]

It is super addictive when you go down that path haha

[@Substance2020]

@@meesamods No joke. Got the belt driven t-GT2 last year, have the DD G-Pro ordered, bought the HF8 haptic seat pad couple of weeks ago. Now contemplating full racing rig with the option of transducers and motion kit in the years to come...it's nuts.

[@meesamods]

Hey Substance2020 it’s addictive as hey haha definitely a black hole for money if you want it to be haha

[@wardope]

aight i agree you cant compare a belt driven Wheel to a Direct Drive wheel. but you can also not compare fanatac to logitech. fanatec is lightyears ahead of Logitech. both in terms to build quality, usability, accessories, community!

[@meesamods]

Hey wardope, Good discussion points 😊 I don’t think the build quality is that different as both wheels feel pretty good the Logitech has more plastic on the outside but is metal where it counts. The only part that I agree that fanatec has at this stage is the peripherals and the price but I wouldn’t say it is a massive difference there either. The other issue with fanatec was availability. Well at least it was when I was looking around. It was unattainable for about 12 months with zero info from the company with when to expect more so I gave up waiting. Combine that with no other direct drive wheels that are console friendly. That all might have changed now as I haven’t looked for some time now. As for the community side I have only had positive interactions with other users so I have nothing negative to add on that front.

[@jed2055]

Absolute rubbish. I see a red flag here and with other later comments. We're seem to be at that part of the comments where company shills enter and try to cast doubt on the reviewed product. Viewers beware.

[@soldier72]

295 down Conrod Straight. Is that all? 😉

[@meesamods]

Hahaha yeah was on a cruise while chatting away haha

[@mangs9940]

What I would like to know is what arcade racers will work with this wheel. Obviously the ones on the official list. But what about older games like grid 2, dirt 2/3 , NFS series. There is an g923 compatibility mode. Does this mean it will work with all games that worked on g923?

[@meesamods]

I think it should work if you put it in compatibility mode. The only thing that may cause issues would be the load cell brake perhaps.

[@mangs9940]

@@meesamods that might also be ok, if plugged through the wheelbase rather than directly in the PC

[@meesamods]

Yeah true that

[@mangs9940]

@@meesamods from support - In the vast majority of cases, if a title supports the Logitech G29, G920, or G923, then the PRO Wheel will also work - which is good!

[@meesamods]

Perfect. Good to know

[@bricktop2090]

i would only upgrade my wheel if it could improve my lap times"👍

[@meesamods]

Hey Brick top, Yeah I found the new wheel won’t necessarily make you faster but it gives you more information that allows you to push harder especially going from belt/ gear driven to dd. So I did get quicker but after a heap of practice. It’s more of a feeling thing it just feels better. Mitch

[@bricktop2090]

@@meesamods Thanks for the info👍 i have the G923, and its ok but in the uk its £1000 for this new DD wheel" i just wish it was a little cheaper over here.

[@meesamods]

@@bricktop2090 yeah it is pretty pricey over here in Aus as well but if it is something you use a lot it is worth it. I just came from the g920 and they are still a good wheel as long as you never try anything above it then it will feel like you are missing out

[@ianbiles7540]

Does it work with Xbox x

[@meesamods]

It does if you buy the Xbox specific one. There is ps and pc compatible wheel and an Xbox and pc compatible wheel

[@izhangt3787]

Come on... Simucube sport for that price and heusinkveld pedals!!

[@meesamods]

Sim cube is a good option if you purely race on pc. If you race on console as well there are not many options for a direct drive wheel. However, in terms of price at least in Australia (it may be different overseas) the sim cube wheel base alone costs the same amount as the entire Logitech package.

[@izhangt3787]

@@meesamods why u need console? Pc is the best for simracing

[@meesamods]

hey izhangt, I agree that pc has more to offer as the top sim racing games are on it, wheel compatibility and from the modability aspect but I race more on console as all of the people I race with play on console. Mitch

[@jed2055]

I am looking forward to the McLaren wheel, shifter and handbrake that should be coming out this October (2024). Meanwhile I hope you discovered that you can use the clutch as the handbrake . . footbrake? 😁 FYI guys, now AU$1784 for the bundle as of June, 2024. For a cheap Dd wheel look at the Cammus at AU$599 for the bundle as of June, 2024. I subscribed Mitch because I enjoyed your first G Pro vid and your a fellow Aussie. More power to us. Yo! Oh, one more thing. Yep, set Trueforce to 20-30 is what people are saying so you are spot on there mate.

[@KnowerofThings]

why cant i get this in canada??

[@meesamods]

Good question. Are they not selling it over there or is it out of stock?

[@KnowerofThings]

@@meesamods oh never mind that i just check logitech site, they do sell them in Canada. i just cant find it anywhere else . thanks.

[@lenstanleymrb]

Can I add a fantec shifter to this. I ordered the wheel and peddles but I want the shifter

[@meesamods]

Hmm good question. I will do some digging and see if I can find any answers

[@timothygould106]

No way it's a different company plus the actual logitech shifter isn't even compatible yet supposedly it will be in an update down the road

[@meesamods]

I did read somewhere they were making an adapter to run the old Logitech stuff. Not that you would though it would bring the whole feeling down a bit. Hopefully they release a pro line of peripherals soon

[@talon1706]

I'm using a Thrustmaster TH8A shifter with the G Pro. It registers as a separate controller through usb. Fanatec's might work similarly.

[@bn6244]

@@talon1706 are you using it on PC? or Ps5?

[@bratamic1]

*IMPORTANT WARNING*: Logitech ( DO NOT ) carry spares or have service centres. I have had to throw the gpro wheel and pedals into the bin for the sake of a $2 part that they DONT sell. They DO NOT carry any spares whatsoever and even the smallest issue will result in the unit being bricked. Stick to an alternate brand that do have spares.

[@jed2055]

*IMPORTANT WARNING* Fanatec will only repair defective units in Europe (for us Aussies). Therefore your faulty Fanatec will have to travel half way around the world for a repair and take WEEKS to come back. Logitech can replace my faulty one (if that should happen) with a brand newy every time afaic. Suits me bratmic1. But this "$2 part" has me scratching my head. Why throw anything in the bin when you can sell it online? I suspect your story is made up.

[@bratamic1]

@@jed2055 Anyone in doubt should simply contact logitech or view their website warranty and spares list to make an educated discission. I loved mine too before falling victim.

[@bratamic1]

​@@jed2055 Anyone in doubt should simply contact logitech or view their website warranty and spares list to make an educated discission. I loved mine too before falling victim. FYI Australia is the only country to have a different warranty because your country prevents companies conducting business in this manner.

[@bratamic1]

​@@jed2055 Anyone in doubt should simply contact logitech or view their website warranty and spares list to make an educated discission. I loved mine too before falling victim. FYI Australia is the only country to have a different warranty because your country prevents companies conducting business in this manner.

[@bratamic1]

@@jed2055 Anyone in doubt should simply contact logitech or view their website warranty and spares list to make an educated discission. I loved mine too before falling victim. FYI Australia is the only country to have a different warranty because your country prevents companies conducting business in this manner.

[@rchatte100]

The fanatec dd pro is about half the price, prob better option.

[@meesamods]

G’day Rooz, I don’t know about half the price but it is a few hundred dollars cheaper for the fanatec set once you factor in pedals and the 8nm boost kit was roughly $1700-$1800 last time I checked. The problem is they are not attainable in Australia and have been for about 9 months now. Even emailing them directly they couldn’t give me an indication of a re stock

[@talon1706]

Add import fees, taxes and delivery charges. It adds up. Most of the reasons I bought the G pro.

[@jed2055]

Oh? Please link me to that site mate. I want one for AU$892. Cause the Logi bundle is AU$1784 right now. Now that's the 12nm one too right?

[@bud1042]

don't buy a cheap hand brake off ali express, got a $50 USB unit, I have all ready tried it ,plugged it to PS5 and also the wheel itself, it does power up, but my PS5 will not recognize it. if someone gets one to work lets us know

[@meesamods]

Yeah good advice. I had a feeling that might be the case. Thanks for the comment bud. Mitch

[@jed2055]

You simply CANNOT add any extra 3rd party equipment to a Playstation console. #1] Playstation will only accept ONE usb input and that's your wheel kit. #2] Only devices connected directly to your wheel base will be seen by your Playstation. It follows that if you cannot add your 3rd party device to your actual wheel connection ports then it won't work on your Playstation. 3] If you have a spare usb port on your PC gaming rig you can always add another usb racing device; handbrake, shifter, button box, led screen etc. It's that simple.

[@eidodk]

WAY too expensive for what it provides... Fanatec provides ALOT more value and upgradeability for the same price.

[@meesamods]

Hey Eidodk, I agree it is expensive but I don’t think it is much more expensive that the fanatec GT DD once you add the upgrades 8nm boost + load cell pedal. It was about $200 more at the time I got mine. In saying that you are are also getting a more powerful force feedback option. 8 nm vs 11nm. The other option would be the podium f1 pack but that is about $400 more and then you need to buy another wheel on top of that if you intend on drifting or rallying or racing anything that isn’t f1 and the wheels are not exactly cheap either. I agree with the upgradeability bit for now as fanatec has had plenty of development time and does have a lot of different wheels and peripherals you can buy. I am curious to see what Logitech comes up with in the future. Mitch

[@vikingwar-beargaming8843]

@@meesamods I think a lot more people find value in good expandability, Logitech wheels have essentially looked the same since I can remember, so I think many will choose not to go with Logitech, because it's highly unlikely they'll do different rims...where Fanatec and others give a great deal of freedom with upgrade routes. For example on my DD Pro, when I'm racing ACC, I can use my MacLaren rim, if I switch to trucking, I can use my big wooden rim and the button module, if I switch to Nascar, the option is there.. And so on with almost all classes of vehicle. The ecosystem is part of the value of a Fanatec purchase, Logitech doesn't currently, and most likely won't expand, so it's a big buy knowing you're stuck with one rim for potentially the entirety of the bases lifespan. It's a good base, but a big price point to have to swallow such limitation compared to competitors.

[@vikingwar-beargaming8843]

They are also very late to the DD party, many established companies have been making nothing but DD bases for a long time. Without some impressive peripherals and upgrade paths, they'll find it hard to compete I think with the people who already have a solid customer base. They're budget oriented model won't work at DD prices, so that's also a large portion of Logitechs customers lost who would usually spend 250 on their latest wheelbases.. Probably won't be looking at the new DD.

[@meesamods]

I agree with pretty much everything you said. It is a risk at this stage with regard to peripherals and upgrades I think they will go down that path with the inclusion of the quick release but it depends on how long it takes for them to develop it. I feel like they probably could have delayed the release until they had developed some stuff to go with it. They probably would have sold a heap of extra stuff at the same time. I guess we shall wait and see what come from it in the future. Hopefully we don’t get left hanging

[@vikingwar-beargaming8843]

@@meesamods Heyy! Thank you for replying, that's awesome! And yeah I really hope they open up some options for peripherals and upgrades too, I've been a fan of Logitech for a long time, as when I was on a tighter budget, I could still get a pretty cool racing setup, and it didn't kill my bank too much. And just having the 1 option for 250, was fine. But you're right, if they had bundle options with choices of some different rims, they'd do really well because at the moment, Fanatec don't seem to have bundles in, Logitech should have capitalized on that after a slightly extended release window. But here's to hopefully a positive future for sim racing across the board! And honestly I hope Logitech can get into the DD market on a similar scale to others... Competition breeds innovation, and innovation is always welcomed! If we don't speak again before, I hope you and your family have a great Xmas and New Year! All the love from me and my good lady. =)

[@Paradyski]

rF2

[@meesamods]

Hey Paradyski It is on the list. Mitch

[@chrisdettanascar9264]

As long as there is no DEADZONE IAM happy

[@meesamods]

Yeah I am stoked with mine and haven’t noticed a dead zone. if there is a dead one it is tiny to the point of not noticeable

[@chrisdettanascar9264]

@@meesamods I have a t300rs right now , on GT7 just to much of a dead zone, cars feel to floppy if you know what I mean,, it's the desdzone iam feeling iam sure, so iam thinking about your wheel next, but boy it's pricey Wow ! Canada 🇨🇦 here thanks you, 🍻

[@meesamods]

I know exactly what you you mean. I cam from a g923 and it had a massive dead spot in the middle where the car could bounce between to outside edges of the dead zone so it was impossible to drive straight. Especially in things like the go cart and f1 car etc. direct drive is the way to go to get rid of it. Given your playing gt7 means your on console so you will have similar restrictions in terms of options. Logitech pro or the fanatec dd wheels. Both are good options with the fanatec being mildly cheaper. Only a couple hundred different here in Aus not sure about over there. Additional consideration for you is there are currently no peripherals for the Logitech wheel and I assume they will be comi ng in the near future but there is not info at this stage. Which ever way you go you won’t be disappointed

[@chrisdettanascar9264]

@@meesamods thx for your input

[@jed2055]

@@meesamods Mitch, I appreciate your replies to the many commenters here. I read them all. I don't expect or need one myself but doing my own research here in 2024 I don't get the "fanatec slightly cheaper" feeling. In fact the fanatec is slightly dearer and the wait time now in 2024 is quite scary. Also apples to apples isn't possible as the 8nm fanatec model is an upgrade from a 5nm you pay for. Isn't that true? Rhetorical question there. Then there's the question of warranty issues. Here in Oz as you know, we are at the end of the food chain. If by chance you need to access warranty for a fanatec then good luck with that. I don't mean the poor service which is a factor, I'm simply referring to the distance and cost. Who pays for the shipping? How long will it take? I think that last one is a, how long is a piece of string question. If as another poster said here, Logi won't fix stuff they just replace the whole wheel/base then wahoo buddy! I'm up for that and I'll get that new wheel soon after I send the crook one back to Logi. True? I'm only using logic here, not actual incidences. Then there's the recent problems at the top of fanatec but before that it was the l-o-n-g wait times for purchased kit. I read some people ended up cancelling their orders but then had to sweat on getting a refund. Bit scary eh. But the price was my main factor. You would want the QR2 wheel setup. You would want the table clamp . . just in case. You would want the 8nm upgrade . . who wouldn't? Then there's these other wheels begging you to buy them when really one wheel is all I (you?) need. Right now as you read this the Logitech G Pro wheel, base and pedals bundle less than AU$1800 delivered with racing gloves thrown in. I foresee the price dropping a bit more pre Christmas too especially since the Cammus C5 and C115 have entered the contest. Sorry for the long comment. Some things can't go through to the keeper.

[@mclarenformula5042]

Too expensive considering it's competition

[@meesamods]

It is a lil pricey but if you are looking at console friendly options there is not a lot to choose from

[@mclarenformula5042]

@@meesamods good point and there about the same in spec but cost under 1k , they should of been similar their 1st dd , buy a car and drive on a real track at 1300odd , just think it only does 1 thing and your at over 2k if you include console and a basic cockpit 17-1800 if no cockpit and use on a desk , they could of kept this *little lower power* and made a better one more expensive in the future , greedy considering it ain't a breeze on the top shelf sims

[@lancehunziker5725]

Buyer Beware: If you plan on buying anything from Logitech’s website be prepared to be frustrated, angered, enraged and potentially ripped off. I ordered the wheel and the racing adapter, both showed in stock and ready to ship on the site. After Logitech accepted my payment I get a note saying that shipping is delayed and that they have no estimate of when it may ship or be delivered. Just cancel right? Good luck, no living, breathing human works at Logitech support, impossible to cancel. Here I sit with no wheel, no adapter and an 1100.00 dollar hole in my wallet. I doubt that I will see that money again. Going to let my state AG deal with this and I am going back to FPS

[@meesamods]

G’day Lance, I have read a few stories of people having issues with the customer support and I must admit the amount of communication when I purchased mine was very minimal. It just turned up one day. Hopefully Logitech pick up their game in that sense. Mitch

[@lancehunziker5725]

@@meesamods Good Day Mitch, 4 hours of my day wasted trying to get a hold of them, with no success. Great part about it though when I contacted Fanatec, they could not have been more helpful. So all is well in the end. Maybe I will see you on the race track someday. Cheers, Lance

[@jed2055]

Maybe in mid 2024 the world has changed . . . but I doubt it. I ordered the wheel and it arrived in less than a week. I bought the pedals separately, stupidly missing out on the bundle offer, but I got no notification after 8 days (I'm in no hurry) but I called Logi's support line just yesty reporting said issue and this morning I got two emails; one from support telling me my ticket has been updated and the issue has been resolved and a second email was the notification that the item has shipped. What $hits me Lance is when people jump onto these review sites & make stupid fits-all comments. Are you actually even real? I mean, what do you mean by, you couldn't contact support? It's a phone number ffs? How hard it it for you to make a call? Are you an idiot? And Mitch, please don't fall for these bull$hit commenters. If you can't feel it, touch it or smell it, take it with a grain of salt. Don't be gullible or your comments section will be full of lies and misleading comments from people with their own agendas. And that's all I have to say about that.

[@justpoppinthings]

Logicrap was never worth it

[@meesamods]

Hey Mate, I am assuming that you have owned one and didn't like it or had issues with it? Can you share the details of why you don't think it was worth it? I love mine and it was definitely worth it to me. Did it cost me a touch more - yes about $200 more but the main reason I went this way is because it was available and is console friendly. Which is more than I could say for the 18months I waited for Fanatec to have any stock (may have been a different story outside of Aus). Now there are cheaper options but most are PC specific Which leaves us with Fanatec or Logitech as they are the only 2 DD wheels available for console. Mitch

[@SimChaserRoseRacer]

I got mine a couple months ago and I absolutely love it and would buy it again 100% people say $1000 is too expensive but when you consider a good quality belt driven can cost easily $500 - $650. And it is 10x better than any other wheel I've had in the 10 years and 8plus wheels I've had. Including the fanatech CSL, thrustmaster t248 and t300, g27, g29, g923, and fanatech DD pro with the boost to 8 NM and a few more. And hands down this wheel is by far the best!!! If you are complaining about the price and how it's made from plastic it just means you're too broke to get one so you are throwing shade because I'm seeing a lot of negative reactions about the wheel from people who have never even used it. They are comparing it to the g923 saying they are the same, and that makes those people so completely stupid!

[@meesamods]

G’day ROSE, Thanks for the comment. I agree they are a great wheel and the only valid complaint at the moment from a comparison stand point is a lack of peripherals and upgrades. But given how new this is it was expected so as long as logitech develop decent stuff for it in the future it shouldn’t be a problem. But we shall see I guess. Mitch

[@jed2055]

I believe there is a lot of jealousy out there SimChaser and yeah, people make up all sorts of excuses (that are not reasons) not to buy one. It prolly makes them feel better about not being able to pay for one. My G Pro oozes quality right down to the oled screen on the base and being able to adjust stuff for the PS5 right there in front of the tv. Brilliant and now all the makers in this market that don't have this feature, will have to add one. Also I see more plastic bases in my crystal ball now that Logi have shown the way it can be done. I'm lovin' it.