Loki | Fire God or Mischief Maker?

[@TheStoryCrow]

What do you think folks! Loki. Fire god or no? If you want to support my work as a mythologist and storyteller then head over to ye old patreon patreon.com/TheStoryCrow?

[@davidmorse9894]

Ancestral to the Germanic people, the Scythians had a long history of breeding horses and hounds. Since Loki is said to have given birth to Odin's horse, and is referred to as the Wolf's Mother, he & the Jotun generally (several Aesir having Jotun parents) seem to represent aspects of that ancestral culture (he's even depicted [0:30] in a Scythian hat).

[@Hadrada.]

How do we know that Loki makes nets? Thanks

[@hgriff14]

yes he is a fire god, the god of fire insults. 😂 thanks for this one, lokis tales are always classics. and i have heard someone that is a norse pagan describe loki as a “spark” as in the catalyst for a change of states of being and that mistranslation is where he thought the fire god myth comes from. this is coming from a position of seeing loki as the god of sudden changes aka chaos that the people of the viking age and earlier saw as a nuisance rather than a god. and that “land spirit of asgard” makes so much sense and ive never heard it before. thanks again for another great video.

[@TheStoryCrow]

I like it! ⚡️ 🔥 ✨

[@shadoweagle7629]

From what I have come to understand is Loki is the agent of change. Odin always drinks with Loki because when you drink we change right. Sometimes not for the better. Loki being at the smith is a clear expression of “change”.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Very well stated. Tricksters often bring about necessary change. Some resist change.

[@stigc.minkstuen]

In the Norwegian language - in some dialects even today - "Låge" or "Låke" means flames :) To me, Loki is a god representative of us as human beings - lying, cheating, full of good ideas and intentions and how to help - that goes wrong, and falls to the earth ... The god of crazy ideas that afflicts his surroundings as well :D

[@TheStoryCrow]

Classic trickster. A mirror to humanity 😉

[@SahuMaculu]

I like your view of Loki, I'm wondering, would lough have that same meaning, it means a 'body of water', if you remove the 'o' it spells Lugh, another trickster god. If you go out at night, look towards Sagittarius, you'll see a Coudron of Fire, behind Sagittarius is the center of our galaxy, to the right is Scorpio, between the two is Ophiuchus, whose 7 main stars outline a Cave, pyramidal on top. The first week of December, you find the Sun sitting between Ophiuchus and Scorpio, the star Antares, the Heart of the Scorpion, Rasalhague is the star at the top of Ophiuchus, it is the same distance between Antares and Rasalhague as it is between Rasalhague and Vega, our old Pole Star, known as the She Goat star. December 5th is an ancient Roman festival held for Fanus, also day associated with the Bad Santa. If you play the words "Wise Quotes, She Raise Dead" in reverse, you hear it echo "Antares, Scorpio", the words "Say There Is A Guest" will echo "Sagittarius". Up above them is the Eagle Aquila, is astrology, Sagittarius is the hips and thighs, behind Sagittarius is a Black Hole, I recall a story of Odin as an eagle, who let a little Mead of Poetry, out his backside, hahaha, the ancient world called this 'The Golden Gate of the Gods". On the day of the Winter Solstice, you find the Sun next to a little bloody red spot called Spiculum, meaning Spear, known as the Lagoon Nebula, a body of water, that Sun must cross, on the day it stops moving on the southeastern horizon for 3 days. If you play Spiculum in reverse, you hear it echo "Mother Cups", did you know that you can outline a Teapot with the stars of Sagittarius, but anyway, Lugal means Great Man, and Loki would be Man of Earth, 'gal' is Sumerian for Great, but it also means Cup, a large fancy cup made of precious metals. Opposite of Ophiuchus is Orion, holding a Club like Thor holding his Hammer, the Sumerians knew him as Gilgamesh, Sagittarius was Enkidu, Orion is fighting the Bull of Heaven, Taurus, Enkidu is fighting Humbaba, Scorpio and Ophiuchus, he is now a mountain and a cave opening to the underworld. All ancient mythology is plucked from the stars, I think they are trying to tell us of a cycle of chaos that comes around, people get wiser, lying and cheating takes over, all for good intentions, it draws out the best in the end, the best of the best is need to start anew. The Stone Age fell to the Broze Age, and that one to the Iron Age, just a cycle of starting all over, what happens to us, we're at the top of the tree, the Technology Age, soon to fall back to the Stone Age. The names of our planets played in reverse, echo back a story of a Ritual, the constellations of the zodiac, they speak of a birth. My comment is for you and Story Crow, my new favorite content creator on KZbin. P.S. sorry for the long comment

[@MrBlazingup420]

@@SahuMaculu Who are you, I talk like You.

[@SahuMaculu]

@@MrBlazingup420 I am you dummy, just don't tell KZbin, ha ha ha, they'll take away all our fun. soon there will be 7 of us, screw YT deleting my comments. He's talking about the Trickster, I know dummy, that why I'm here too.

[@MrBlazingup420]

@@SahuMaculu Hey You, was that Loki who did that, that Trickster, 43 minutes after you comment, they said head to high ground, a tsunami was coming, a 7.3 earthquake hit near by, 40.3 degrees N Lat, by 124.7 degrees W Lon. 40+3=43, I live at 43 degrees N Lat, 124 W Lon, the earthquake hit 106 miles away, 43 minutes after is 11:17, 3 ones and a 7,and 7.3 was the earthquake, stop fooling around with the Trickster, I blame You, I didn't say it, You did Dummy.

[@rachdoesmagic]

Perhaps you've known this already, but every time you talk about Loki from a less "traditional" perspective and tell his stories your eyes sparkle in a way that is very Lokian. I am really looking forward to a deep dive on him from you (and, so is he by the way). The two sides, the hearth and the wildfire, both are Loki. Sustenance and destruction. Holding the paradigm of being both, being complex, chaotically layered and seeing different truths being valid at once: very Lokian.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Fully agree with you there

[@netwitchtatjana4661]

Loki. The only intellectual amongst the Aesir.

[@thebordoshow]

interesting video. one note, Prometheus was not sent to Tartarus like other Titans, he was bound on mount Khazbek which was once an active volcano, now dormant for thousands of years. Many local fire stealing heroes are said to be bound there, but not Amirani who everyone associates with Prometheus, yet being diametrically different heroes, Amirani never even steals fire. one interesting note is that we in Georgia have a very similar fairy tale to Ash Lad, I even made a christmas video re-telling. the figure, Natsarqeqia or Ash digger or ash-raker who is a similar trickster figure who swindles ogres from their castle. Strange finding such similar characters in such far away cultures. My Wild theory on Loki is that it was an older figure, Indo-European local spirit, "adopted" into Asir family of gods because he was useful, but still kept as an outsider.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Totally with you on your Loki interpretation, it’s one I’ve heard before. Thanks for the note on Prometheus, I just assumed it was Tartarus 😅 Had never heard of the Georgian ash lad - love how the tales seed - thanks for that too my friend 🙏 Great comment 🍻✨👍

[@dot23X]

Can we have a link to your telling of that story?

[@Michelle-e4z]

Appreciated as always.. So interesting, entertaining…

[@FreeYourMind-e9h]

Loved the crow in the intro. It invoked magician vibes. "Don't want your cat to piss on your rug" tee hee. Didn't know you could petition for that. Thanks for the dive on Loki.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Totally Loki thing to do 🤣 🐈‍⬛

[@ryanziegler1410]

If you think about it, fire is a morally ambivalent thing. Both useful and dangerous, so I guess in an animistic culture, it might be a spirit that you want to pacify if you're going to be using an element that can be dangerous like that.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Well stated

[@EliRedman]

I think of Loki as a Mercurial being. In astrology Mercury is the ruler of both Gemini and Virgo, an air sign and an earth sign. So, sewing his mouth shut prevents him from speaking and one might consider that as air and sound combined. Mercury being both messenger and trickster energy. Just an idea. Also, try to grasp Mercury the element.

[@NadyaTytian]

I have always thought of Loki as a shapeshifter, some type of nature spirit, maybe jinn, maybe reptilian? Definitely not a God, even if he probably would have liked that. But he is so well liked because of his hybrid/ human nature. He likens himself as God of chaos, as that is where real transformation happens, through chaos true creativity happens. And the symbol of transformations just happens to be FIRE. Some people still worship him, when certain needs arise. Some people recognise him as a spirit of change. 🔥

[@juliaogara8794]

Prometheus, other narrative I’ve listened to says it was his liver and not his heart. As we know, our liver can grow back. Something I’ve always found fascinating and might be a part of our biological abilities that should be investigated. However, certain facts do not make money for the ‘medical’ giants. Thank you for another great listen😍😀

[@TheStoryCrow]

I think it is his liver actually, well spotted 🙏

[@morganwoolf2188]

I'm definitely biased for Loki being a fire entity, but your video gave me some interpretations of my own I thought were fun. Loki biting the smith like a fly made me think of embers jumping out of the fire and stinging the smith's hand. I don't know how big the snaptun stone is but it sounds like it protects from embers. His parents, Striker and Leafy, made me think of flint and tinder (used to make a domestic fire). We think of giants as big but they usually, more importantly, primal and unpredictable. Flint and tinder are primal tools that can make fire, if it gets out of hand it becomes chaotic. I'm probably fishing for evidence in my favor, but I thought they might be fun to share.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Yeah, good observations . Thanks for sharing!

[@Hadrada.]

I’ve heard this before what you have mentioned 👍🏼

[@Oceanandstone]

Thank you for all of your amazing videos. Thank you for the education into folklore and history. Love your channel and would love to see you on a story telling tour one day ❤Scotland 😊

[@TheStoryCrow]

Thanks for the kind words. I’m hoping to find a slot at the Edinburgh storytelling festival this October 🤞🤞🤞

[@bovineballpit]

I love the idea of him being the land spirit of Asgard, it would make sense as to why they never properly kill or get rid of him.

[@Bjorn_Algiz]

Interesting analysis and overview ❤ love the videos you produce.

[@tishainess9339]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@DooDoo-f4v]

Given how close his name is to the likes of Licht, Luke, and Logan it makes sense

[@_.stargazer._]

6:11 Perkunas is the baltic god, the slavic one (similar but not the same) was Perun ;) who was actually more of a thunder/sky/aether god than fire. The fire god in slavic mythology is Svarog, whos name comes from svar/żar meaning embers (fun fact it comes from earlier word sur meaning glowing) he's also the god of blacksmithing

[@TheStoryCrow]

Ah yes, quite right, thanks for clarifying 🙏 ⛈️

[@AnneAndersonFoxiepaws]

Yes funnily enough I was thinking of Blacsmithing while Crow was talking, like Haephistus.

[@richardkeep1974]

The more I listened to this, the more I thought about him being a land spirit ( intuition maybe? ) Loki is a fascinating character and the video is very thought provoking. By the way I love the crow ❤

[@TheStoryCrow]

Interesting… makes sense doesn’t it? 🙏

[@jotunfolk4357]

Loki is one of the fire family....Loki is also keeping his mouth shut by simply smiling as to keep the universe from being destroyed.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Love that

[@silvafox8371]

Very interesting and does make a lot of sense -

[@joandrummond524]

Thank you once again for your hard work love listening to you telling all these interesting stories x

[@TheStoryCrow]

Pleasure, thanks as always for watching and sharing thoughts 🙏✨

[@MohammadMedhi]

Brilliant again. Thanks 👌

[@dot23X]

Hilariously just when you say at 15:30 “Surtr, he’s of course a…” an ad for Dr Paris chipped in with “chiropractor”! Loki, clearly taking the p!$$ there ;)

[@TheStoryCrow]

I love that. ‘Trickster confounds the internet” such a Loki move 😂

[@AnneAndersonFoxiepaws]

Etymology or entemology lol! Seriously though, the question of Loki's existence is what I'm really interested in, I mean back then, not after the Eddas.

[@TheStoryCrow]

😂

[@FireMoon42]

Excellent and so neatly encapsulated. I'd love to see you and Janina Ramirez discussing Scandi mythology together.

[@Derpitz96]

Hey man, do you have a Morrigan deity tracker planned?

[@TheStoryCrow]

I do now 😉🙏

[@Derpitz96]

​@@TheStoryCrow Incredible thank you so much. I'm so happy I stumbled onto this channel a few days ago. I've been binging, I really enjoy the content and I'm happy to be here.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Ahhh, pleased to hear that friend. Welcome 🙏☺️

[@QueenYavanna]

@@TheStoryCrowyes please!! 🤩 I think the similarities/connection her and her three-fold form have with the Hindu goddesses Parvati, Durga, and particularly Kali is extremely fascinating! It all circles back to the archetype of the fertile war maiden, and to me Shakti. ❤

[@deborahdarling1799]

Love your stories, just found you! Just a odd comment, love your tats as well!! Any story you care to tell? Thanks!

[@TheStoryCrow]

Thank you 🙏 Not much story to tell really. Just catching up with my well tattooed fiancée 😂 One is from a plate inside the gundestrupp cauldron, the other is from a la tene scabbard 👍

[@Emymagdalena]

If Loki is a fire god, I see a lot of connection to Lugh.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Yup. With you there.

[@NevisYsbryd]

I came across someone claiming the names are etymologically related under a different video, although idk enough about the subject to comment on the veracity of said claim.

[@dot23X]

Interestingly Lugh seems to have much more in common with Odin - and is related to Lugos the chief of the European Celtic pantheon - perhaps this might lend a clue to his origin. Wikipedia states the name may derive from PIE for black, break or to swear oath. If the Norse wanted to co-opt, mock or mess with the Celts in general, and seeing the irish and French having an Odin like figure in Lugos/Lugh, perhaps he was adopted and had his status diminished to show their disdain? Perhaps Celtic pagans cohabited with the Vikings in Denmark and Scandinavia and they liked the character of Lugh and adopted him at some point, but Odin worshippers later had him become more laughable?

[@NevisYsbryd]

On gods being 'gods of x,' it is wortj noting there is often a diagetic distinction. Eg, the Olympians are personalities; this is contrasted with the Titans, primal beings of various phenomenon or large physical structures (kind of like major _genius loci),_ and the Protogenoi (Primordials) who are their respective phenomenon, essences, or objects personified (eg Nyx is not the goddess of night, she literally _is_ Night). The Aesir are personalities foremost, with some of the more major entities of different groups (eg Surtr of the jotunns) being closer to Titans. There is some reason to suspect that Hermes and Pan are a bifurcation of a single earlier deity. While this is highly speculative, I have mused for a while that Pan maps onto the zodiacal sign of Capricorn pretty well (one aspect of it, anyways), and I have argued for years that Odin fits far better as a Saturnian figure than a Mercurial figure, leaning towards its Capricorn expression (Capricorn being the entry to the afterlife, exaltation of Mars, esoteric altered states of consciousness, navigating the structure of reality to achieve the seemingly impossible, fathers and judgement, meloncholy and doom, etc). I likewise argue Loki is better understood as Mercurial. Tangentially, the other domicile of Saturn is Aquarius, which maps right onto Prometheus. The _genius loci_ of the land Asgard is built on is an interesting proposition; the personality gods were often construed in their sign of exaltation, and Mercury's exaltation in Virgo (the mutable earth sign) is unique in being the only planet whose exaltation is in a sign it rules. I think it is likely more that Loki is something along the lines of change and crafty trickery of which fire is one form in much the same way Prometheus gave fire to humans while lacking any inherent connection to fire itself. Notably, Prometheus is likely _not_ a standard Indo-European diety and likely spread independently from the general PIE invasions. We also get fire given to humans from non-fire entities or non-divine entities in other cultures, such as a bird or spider in much of the Americas north of modern Mexico.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Good points thanks for the input. Especially re Hermes and Pan. May do a video on that soon. As for Woden, I’m with you to a point. I’d say the mercurial nature was earlier in time, and the more saturnalian came later - at a guess. Or he’s always been both… he certainly has many trickster elements that don’t square with other aspects of his all-father nature. Yes the Loki as Asgard’s genus loci is interesting isn’t it? But not that it detracts from other crafty interpretations, as you mention. The theme here, for me, is that you can’t really trap gods into being one thing or another imo, only track them though labyrinths of potentiality 😉 Great comment though. Thanks for sharing 🙏

[@LongfusedbombasticBarbarian]

He's probably a fire god in some very indirect ways he's considered in the same vein as utgaard Loki who was an enchanter and Illusionist in that story so I think of Loki as very much the norse god of adolescents and probably has more to do with heat hazes and flickering flames then blazes and torches if you get my meaning he has a kind of jinn energy despite being in another part of the world a positive aspect of him might have been something like the tooth fairy where childhood tokens were cast into the fireplace as offerings so that he would look after the children as I grew up in transitioned towards young adulthood

[@TheStoryCrow]

Yes, heat hazel and flickering flames I’ve heard from Scandinavian folk sayings - good points cheers 🙏

[@DesmondsDonders]

Interesting ideas probably closer to the mark than what is circulating on the web.

[@friedfish69]

Loki is a frost jötnar, so from Niflheim.. Niflheim is sometimes known as Niflhel. Loki's daughter is Hel. Tough to make a direct Muspelheim connection to Loki, and fire jötnar are from Muspelheim. Loki as a fire god is a tough sell. If the connection to Thor is lightening and wildfire, then your point about Loki representing domestic fire falls apart. Jörð was very likely a jötnar. Whether fire or frost, I don't know. What we do know is that in the creation story, Niflheim and Muspelheim came close enough together to melt the primordial ice, forming the enormous jötunn Ymir and Auðumbla the cow. If Jörð is a fire jötnar, then Thor is descended from fire. Fire and frost, Thor and Loki? They do, in the end, fight and die on opposing sides. And please don't get too casual with that "myths are dreams, so don't look for logic" rebuttal. Yeah, it's a good point, but it also means you can avoid falsifiability.

[@gibmattson1217]

Tyr is Ares/Mars. Odin is Hermes/Mercury. Thor is Zeus/Jupiter. Freya is Aphrodite/Venus. Loki is Cronus/Saturn. Probably.

[@TheStoryCrow]

I tend to avoid direct cross cultural associations where possible as it doesn’t always scan directly. If you want to Greco Roman it; Thor to Zeus is pretty clear. And Freya to Venus. So I’m with you thus far. It starts getting complicated with Tyr, more so with Woden (who has hermetic AND saturnalian qualities) and nigh on impossible with Loki (who also has hermetic and Promethean elements as well as… other stuff)

[@gibmattson1217]

@@TheStoryCrow No, it doesn't scan directly. Different people's interpret the same things (told via myth) in different ways in different parts of the world using different languages over different time periods. The Sun as one example , has been depicted in so many different ways the world over and mythical depictions are being reinvented as we type! Loki will probably be found in some form or another the world over. Saturday is probably Lokis day (not washing). Saturn's day. I mean why would u have moon day, Tues/Tyrs day, Wodens day, Thors day, Freya's day, Washing day??!! and then the Sun's day? All the best. Like your vids 😁

[@TheStoryCrow]

Haha, yeah good point 😅 thanks for watching my friend 🙏✨

[@livluna436]

I don't really see the link with Freya and Venus, because she is much more than a goddess of love. She is a fertility goddess yes, and blond. But she is also a goddess of death and of magic (Seidr) ✨️She is quite complex. She taught Odin about magic, and half of the those who die in battle go to her domain Folkvangr. I am a Freya fan if you can't tell ;)

[@ninamira8051]

Bedenke, das Thor auch der Rote (Rotschopf) genannt wird und mit dem Sinnbild Stier in Erscheinung tritt. Im Germanischen Himmel war Mars mit dem Stier interpretiert. Tyr, der alte Götter-Vater, in der Edda der Sohn Odins, wurde auch Zio, wie Ziu genannt = Zio-Pater = Jupiter, wie auch Zius oder Zios = Zeus, als dem Widder, da einst Widdergehörnt (widdergehörnte Schlange). Das Problem hier liegt das die meisten Interpreten sich an den Wochentagen orientieren, dabei in der Deutschen Sprache der Donnerstag = Donner dem Donar-Thor eigen ist. Man aber auf Jupiter-Zeus dem Gewittergott der Griechen und Römer verweist, was falsch ist. Dabei die Franzosen den Dienstag, altdeutsch Ziustag (Zischtig), MARDI dem Mars zuerkannt wird, was die Hauptfehlerquelle der Interpretation ist. Jupiter und Zeus, sind bei den Griechen und Römern in den Fischen (Tyr-Kreis = Tier-Kreis bezogen zu finden), was fraglich ist, da eigentlich der Widder korrekt wäre, Mars = Stier. Freya und Freyr = Venus, germanische Zwillinge, bei den Römern und Griechen der Merkur. Merkur = Loki, auch wenn Tacitus Odin nennt, bei den Germanen im Krebs, zusammen mit Mani, dem Mond. Die andere Himmelshälfte ist dann wieder Griechisch, Römisch, Germanisch identisch. Der Mars = Roter Planet = Rotschopf Donar-Thor, auch wenn es die Forschung nicht glaubt. Wotan als Merkur, ist bedingt richtig, das Sonne = Löwe, aber von Merkur als dem ersten Planeten umrundet = Krebs und Jungfrau. Ich weiss, dass diese Interpretation anstossend ist, aber vielleicht sollte man sich an der Symbolik orientieren. So etwa im Hl. Neuen Testament: Der Stier gehört dem Apostel LUKAS, dessen Name HAMMER bedeutet. Stier = Hammer. der Ugaritische Gott Baal, erscheint mit Blitz (Donner) und Stierhörnern, findet man im Internet auf Google, einfach ugaritscher Gott Baal eingeben, der mit Thor identisch ist.

[@yanina.korolko]

❤men made Loki into a Shapeshifter… That means that he is much-much older than Thor and other north gods.

[@OwlPowerCreations]

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[@inconspicuous-new--account]

Loki does exist. So now you know. You should maybe look into what some of the Catholic exorcists might say. They know a bit about him. Though obviously when it comes to Loki in person they might not have met him, they will certainly have met people who can channel him. Rather interestingly, if you watch the Kevin Smith movie Dogma, in which Matt Damon plays Loki, his companion played by Ben Affleck is called Bartleby. He uses the name Barry at one point in the movie. That is actually Loki's name this century. This stuff is all kind of weird, but you'd expect it to be, all things considered. He is intrinsically connected to Lucifer, but he is not Lucifer. Lucifer is the light bearer. That is basically a Thor identity. Odin doesn't quite have the oomph for it. Too mellow. If you want to bring the light, you need Thor's determination. You do have to be aware though, that Lucifer is the Morningstar, and not the trouble maker that he is always portrayed as. That's Satan's machinations, which give that impression. Thor might be aggravating, but what can you expect, when he has to deliver information about gods to a blind and deaf, ignorant species of determined secular atheists. There was that time when Loki had to sell him out to the Romans, so that he got crucified to raise awareness. That made an impact, but it still didn't really educate people. They are a work in progress.

[@Kernowmafia123]

It my 21 birthay just had bonfire got very stoned and drunk

[@FreeYourMind-e9h]

Happy Birthday. We call it drunkie high, especially nice for birthdays

[@TheStoryCrow]

That’s where Loki lives! 🍻 🔥 Hope you had a good un

[@KingoftheBlackSun]

He is a Trickster Solar God, equivalent of Vishnu. The Norse were as Indo-European as the Hindu and God is God - the stories of each are about the same energy based *real* beings. They are both extensions of the proto-Getae, primordial Wolf-like tribes of beings in ancient pre-Neolithic Romania and surrounding. Compare 'Building of the Asgard Walls' with the 'Churning the Milk of the Ocean'. They are the same cosmic event! In both, there is a contest where maleficent beings are involved on purpose, and in each one the maleficent beings end up cheating and trying to win everything falsely. In both, the Trickster pulls a Naruto style "sexy jutsu" and turns into a hot girl version, to distract the enemy to steal the prize back. In both of them, the goal is to build a protection for the Gods that will last for eternity - the potion for the Hindu, the walls for the Norse. Queen Hel is a femme presentation of Lord Shiva. Shiva is Ardhanarishvara - the King who is Half-Queen. Queen Hel is the same, half a dead skeleton man, and half a living Sorceress. To understand the Norse, seek to understand the Hindu. God is God, only the story changes.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Yes, good myth comparisons there. Love the links between different branches indo-European cosmology and mythology. I don’t conflate them any more, (I used to) now I look at them as distinct but connected. Like refractions through a crystal. I often feel that gods take offence when you deny them their distinct personalities. I wouldn’t want to piss Loki off 😂

[@KingoftheBlackSun]

@@TheStoryCrow Or Vishnu! 😂 "Distinct yet connected" is perfect - I think of it as emanations, and they're all worthy of love. God did not want 'one story' to describe themselves - they wanted exactly this, many stories of many characters yet all written with love - it's beautiful! Interesting point - I feel permission to be distinct is needed for humanity, as well. The 'we are all the same' jargon of pop culture nondualism has been damaging. We are not all the same, and there are experiential differences between the sexes related to chakra that people do not know about yet should discuss, as they matter. Yet people don't talk about it as the conversation was frozen with shaming. I'm able to openly discuss it as I am - pretty much the filly mare! Looking for my Unlucky Traveler... With 'reflections like a crystal' I wonder if you've explored Monadology, and the really cool Hieroglyphic Monad? It helps to unite the concepts. Keep up the good work :)

[@draconity]

More like god of sick burns

[@TheStoryCrow]

😆☝️

[@friedfish69]

Odin and Loki both have female characteristics. Odin messed with magic - female behavior in that time and place. Loki got knocked up.

[@kirstimeretearnesen1202]

Very interesting view on Loke. Sad all of our Nordic Mythologi, and pre-christian history is written by Christians. Snorre's Edda and sagas are coloured by this.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Yep, you gotta be careful with snorri, great source though he is…

[@friedfish69]

Lokki as the guy who brings on Ragnorok doesn't fit well with him being a small-bore god. If we take our most grounded knowledge, leaving out the "probably" sort of speculation, Loki is associated with ice, with harm, with deceit and with destruction. Hearth and home? That's not actually in the stories.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Yeah, so you might want to separate what you think you know of Norse mythology from the Eddas - particularly if it’s been filtered through the brain of Snorri - which is most of it - and the picture of actual Viking age (and earlier) religion, metaphysics and cosmology from the archeological record, and scraps of textual material that we know is from an earlier tradition. The picture is quite different. The Viking way - by Neil price is an excellent book that looks mainly at archeology of the period.

[@dianetheone4059]

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[@dukedijon-ks4qt]

hes both (if ya nasty)

[@tishainess9339]

Loki got graped by a horse 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tishainess9339]

I am commenting this at 1:32 into the video and hoping that this particular detail comes up as it is one of my favorites o😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheStoryCrow]

Details shmetails. Here’s the story you’re looking for 😆 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXzOg4KjhbyImJosi=V2dznm3TaM-DdzTX

[@tishainess9339]

@@TheStoryCrow by the way you are awesome and I love your videos thank you 🙏

[@TheStoryCrow]

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[@craytherlaygaming2852]

Hol up, I thought this was just a mistake OSP made a while back when discussing the eddas, if loki was a fire god how was he beaten by logi? At the most I recall Loki being closely connected to hearths or forges thanks to the story of how thor got hi hammer in which the dwarvs sew loki's mouth shut. Often stones depicting that would b placed at the bellows or something right? however I don't think thats enough to call him a firegod when a god of change fits much better for him. (edit) Okay damn, a lot of the things I was thinking were brought up, I did consider the controlled vs wild fire thing, and the idea of Loki being a wildfire that was domesticated by the gods as a force of necessary change is really fascinating.

[@TheStoryCrow]

Well, like I say in the video, logic shouldn’t necessarily apply to mythology - but possibly because logi is wild fire and Loki (in this context) is the domestic or hearth fire. But it’s a strange story, with three lokis. They may all be aspects of Loki.

[@craytherlaygaming2852]

@@TheStoryCrow Ye, I've been reacting as I watch and just reached that part, hence the diff edits to my post