Loki: The Antidote For Bad Doctor Who

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It's official; Loki is the antidote for the mediocrity and disappointment of modern Doctor Who. The show has not only breathed new life into the character of Loki, given him exciting new friends in the forms of Mobius and himself... several times over... But positioned him as the perfect person to take on all timey-wimey related queries in the MCU. In this Marvel video analysis I look at Sylvie and Loki's episode 3 journey and it's multi-doctor overtones, the significance of Gallifrey and Asgard's destruction, the usage of Richard E Grant in both franchises, the comparisons in budget and cinematography, how Sylvie's storyline is a better version of the Timeless Child arc (The Timeless Children) and much more!
BBC's Doctor Who could stand to learn a thing or two from Marvel's latest Disney Plus effort, but in the meantime, this is the holdover fans have been waiting for.
Loki Episode 5 was a banger. I would have had a lot of extra material for this video. Maybe I'll do a follow up!
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Introduction
4:20 - A Tumblr Dream
18:52 - Sylvie
26:11 - Better Concepts
35:26 - Better Budget
38:05 - Hopefully a better use of Richard E Grant
Loki directed by Kate Herron. Written by Micheal Waldron. Doctor Who. BBC. Chris Chibnall.
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@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Here's my thoughts on the final episode, the Kang reveal and what might come next! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmPMk4ajq9-li5Y
@jagknight3730
@jagknight3730 2 жыл бұрын
Can u do a video on superman and Lois when it ends. It's a really really good show
@Maulbert
@Maulbert 2 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about the Timeless Child is that it's not a terrible idea. The fact that they made the Doctor the Timeless Child is what was truly terrible. Seriously, if the Doctor had to come to terms with the idea thar his/her powers were stolen from someone else, that could've been amazing.
@FULANODETAL
@FULANODETAL 2 жыл бұрын
The final episode was like the architect scene of Matrix reloaded..but with 40 minutes of Boring filling..and talking with a Guy with brain damage
@leejohnstone894
@leejohnstone894 2 жыл бұрын
Tom Huddleston would make a great Doctor or Master
@socialistwhore2132
@socialistwhore2132 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5K2h2B_ftSsd8k
@ondravele9201
@ondravele9201 2 жыл бұрын
,,Thor is now one of the most well rounded characters..." hehe nice...
@jjstarrprod
@jjstarrprod 2 жыл бұрын
That was a full fat comment
@ellugerdelacruz2555
@ellugerdelacruz2555 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjstarrprod "Full Fat" indeed.
@TF2Fan101
@TF2Fan101 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you didn't see the set photos from Love and Thunder?
@SomeGuy-mt4hq
@SomeGuy-mt4hq 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha fat man is fat...
@SomeGuy-mt4hq
@SomeGuy-mt4hq 2 жыл бұрын
@Snehil Shrey why are you here?
@Cuddleshock
@Cuddleshock 2 жыл бұрын
"We may lose, sometimes painfully... but we don't die."
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
- The Doctor - Loki .... if I hadn't seen the episode it could have been either of them!
@Cuddleshock
@Cuddleshock 2 жыл бұрын
@@FullFatVideos Especially since the Doctor has met themselves a LOT!
@Im_Evie_Now
@Im_Evie_Now 2 жыл бұрын
Nice pfp.
@Cuddleshock
@Cuddleshock 2 жыл бұрын
@@Im_Evie_Now Thanks; I drew it myself.
@User24x
@User24x 2 жыл бұрын
Tell that to main mcu Loki lol
@tylerquebedeaux3492
@tylerquebedeaux3492 2 жыл бұрын
Spoiler Alert: Richard E Grant kills it in this Wednesday’s episode
@OTH595
@OTH595 2 жыл бұрын
Classic loki was a fucking gem right up to the last second of the episode
@tonystark-bl1vu
@tonystark-bl1vu 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@dantefromdevilmaycry9857
@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 2 жыл бұрын
@@OTH595 He was literally Peak Loki, like I wouldn't doubt it if he faked even his death... he literally fooled Thanos and made a life of his own on another Planet
@OTH595
@OTH595 2 жыл бұрын
@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 honestly man I think your right he just oozed cool, and the T.V.A couldn't just let him mind his own business, really hope he comes back again at some point
@EternalDensity
@EternalDensity 2 жыл бұрын
It was his glorious purpose!
@Northspade
@Northspade 2 жыл бұрын
Spoilers: It was a better use of Richard E. Grant.
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@jumpingjoy20
@jumpingjoy20 2 жыл бұрын
He was used for GLORIOUS PURPOSE
@thelasttimelord7550
@thelasttimelord7550 2 жыл бұрын
Can we also appreciate the music within the Loki series? I haven't heard something this good since Murray Gold was composing the soundtracks for Who
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
thats also true! its been really great!
@dubbingsync
@dubbingsync 2 жыл бұрын
There was a scene in today’s episode (5) that was amazing!
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
@@dubbingsync oh man, ep 5 was great!!!!
@JD-jz5gu
@JD-jz5gu 2 жыл бұрын
@@FullFatVideos the music is my favorite part of the show tbh. Probably my favorite score from teh entire mcu
@carolinemcgovern4488
@carolinemcgovern4488 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Natalie Holt is one of my favourite composers now! (Also her backstory is just amazing too)
@ToxinWolffe
@ToxinWolffe 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I remember from Doctor Who's Pompeii episode is that the Italians didn't have a word for Volcano, so it makes complete sense that people would think Loki is just spouting out random bullshit.
@JuLiane
@JuLiane 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, same with me 😁
@ThePa1riot
@ThePa1riot 2 жыл бұрын
Before two seconds later, "oh so thaaaat's what that madman was talking about! Speaking of which, AHHHHHHH!"
@piccoloatburgerking
@piccoloatburgerking 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePa1riot That one dude there: "This is it, this is my moment of death. Better lay down in this little crevice and rub one out, one last time as the fire liquid of death comes for me. I will come first i promise."
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 2 жыл бұрын
Its 79AD Run for your life!
@TehIdiotOne
@TehIdiotOne 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of that, there is a channel called Polymathy that reviews Latin in media, and the Latin Loki is actually saying reflects that fact. What Loki actually said, was something along the lines of "That mountain of yours that has suffered fires for centuries, is about to spill the fires all over you". kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmmXiXqcmq-decU
@jaykatara5467
@jaykatara5467 2 жыл бұрын
"Use him (Richard E Grant) and use him well, marvel" Marvel: "about that"
@cola98765
@cola98765 2 жыл бұрын
Glorious Purpose!!!!
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 2 жыл бұрын
They definitely did.
@Tb0n33999
@Tb0n33999 2 жыл бұрын
I feel Mr Grant stole every scene he was in on Loki.
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
damn straight; what an episode!
@alancarda5198
@alancarda5198 2 жыл бұрын
...only to have it stolen from him by the Loki-gator. :)
@TheLeftie600
@TheLeftie600 2 жыл бұрын
@@alancarda5198 Loki Gator - Time Detective 🤔
@buddyolly7008
@buddyolly7008 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t the only one thinking Loki was what doctor who should be!
@lexruptor
@lexruptor 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes you were
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
apparently not!
@TayoEXE
@TayoEXE 2 жыл бұрын
@@lexruptor The fact that this video exists is evidence that your statement doesn't make sense...
@chronical
@chronical 2 жыл бұрын
Me and you bud, this is Christopher , David and Rose era kind of doctor who
@patrickchoque7720
@patrickchoque7720 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he’s even British 😂
@lsskakarotdeadpool4561
@lsskakarotdeadpool4561 2 жыл бұрын
“Seven Eleven” “Nine Ele…..” had me laugh out loud
@icecreamchief5417
@icecreamchief5417 2 жыл бұрын
I winced when he corrected himself in a funny way
@matthartley2471
@matthartley2471 2 жыл бұрын
Richard E Grant was the best part of episode 5. His story, the feats he pulls, the end of the episode are pure perfection. It's a shame he likely won't be in episode 6 or anything going forward, but here's to hoping because he was amazing.
@theperson8539
@theperson8539 2 жыл бұрын
Funny when you consider he was the doctor in that animated thing before the show was properly revived.
@Askryllix
@Askryllix 2 жыл бұрын
@@theperson8539 glad to know i wasn't the only one thinking of that
@stuartwatson7524
@stuartwatson7524 2 жыл бұрын
Richard had like 5 minutes and was instantly iconic, bloody fantastic
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so fucking happy about Richard E Grant's role!
@erikahuber6617
@erikahuber6617 2 жыл бұрын
I’m losing my mind over I Am The Doctor playing over Loki clips PURE SEROTONIN
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
That was probably my favourite time editing this
@marionbaggins
@marionbaggins 2 жыл бұрын
That Editing Made my Fangirl Side Reach Infinity on the scale from 1-100!!!
@akodaah13-e32
@akodaah13-e32 2 жыл бұрын
eargasm
@nutmas7185
@nutmas7185 2 жыл бұрын
I know right? It fit so well.
@CamGold
@CamGold 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@jamiemccreath3959
@jamiemccreath3959 2 жыл бұрын
"Richard E Grant is wasted in Doctor Who" *screams in shalka*
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Come on
@Dray1
@Dray1 2 жыл бұрын
Funny to think that Jacobi was the Master in that
@linkofvev
@linkofvev 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically the best he has been in Doctor Who was that Children in Need special, also written by Moffat.
@Dray1
@Dray1 2 жыл бұрын
@@linkofvev Doctor Simeon was a pretty good performance
@nathanielmorgan9108
@nathanielmorgan9108 2 жыл бұрын
C'mon, his best performance in Doctor Who is in The Curse of Fatal Death.
@m1lkt04st
@m1lkt04st 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why I fell in love with Loki so quickly, never realized that it he was so like the doctor
@sigmamale6128
@sigmamale6128 2 жыл бұрын
hes not
@mai4645
@mai4645 2 жыл бұрын
@@sigmamale6128 definitely not but never thought about the show reminding me of doctor wio
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 8 ай бұрын
I’d would have liked a 2-4 more episodes of Loki-Like most of the Marvel shows, even the good ones, it felt a little rushed. My main issue from a character POV was I felt like this Loki’s redemption arc was far too rushed. In the series, we briefly watch Loki watch a video of the OG Loki’s life & death. This is supposed to be the pivotal moment that makes Variant Loki realize how badly Loki Prime had fucked up. I’m down with that but I felt like Variant Loki’s personal evolution would have hit a lot harder if it hadn’t mostly been an exposition dump. It wasn’t the worst thing ever but if they’d really played their cards right this could have been something HUGE. Loki does redeem himself in Marvel’s main timeline, of course. It’s powerful & it’s tragic. Loki Prime ultimately dies a hero. Variant Loki’s gotten a second chance to actually LIVE as a hero. I just would have liked to see him come to that realization more organically, with a little less tell & a lot more show.
@calilycan3213
@calilycan3213 2 жыл бұрын
Loki also has incredible music which helps adds to scenes and build suspense "No-one ever bad is ever truly bad, and no-one good is ever truly good" is actually just a doctor who line I refuse to believe otherwise
@captainstage2009
@captainstage2009 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Mobius turned out to be a profesional Jedskier in his actual life LOL
@bbittercoffee
@bbittercoffee 2 жыл бұрын
I will accept nothing less! My man Mobius DESERVES it.
@shubhangvatsa5375
@shubhangvatsa5375 2 жыл бұрын
And we get a scene with him on a jetski saying "wow" .... Chef's kiss
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 2 жыл бұрын
Comes out a TVA Door way while doing a barrel roll straight into a Dr Strange portal to Tahiti, You can thank me later 🤣 Even funnier! Deadite on a Jet ski or Ash and Multiverse of Madness is complete!
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 2 жыл бұрын
Or jet skiing down the back of a variant Godzilla!
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 2 жыл бұрын
Its a Magical place.
@ClaireWritesSometimes
@ClaireWritesSometimes 2 жыл бұрын
How have I, a huge Neil Gaiman fan, not yet drawn the "this feels like Gaiman" connection when it comes to this show? So, petition for Gaiman to write on the second season if it happens...?
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
A Gaiman episode would be cool, but I'm happy for Micheal Waldron to continue doing them!
@redbomb3576
@redbomb3576 2 жыл бұрын
@@FullFatVideos Disney sends they’re regards
@mr.dr0bot731
@mr.dr0bot731 2 жыл бұрын
You can't make someone work on something.
@tellmesomething2412
@tellmesomething2412 2 жыл бұрын
Second season is already been confirmed.
@redbomb3576
@redbomb3576 2 жыл бұрын
@@tellmesomething2412 Hold your Horse there Pal! Producer Nate Moore said that it *likely* to have a second season. Nobody else that works with marvel said anything else.
@DayZeroGaming
@DayZeroGaming 2 жыл бұрын
"Thats where I grew up. The ends of a 1000 worlds..." That line alone made the series.
@davididiart5934
@davididiart5934 2 жыл бұрын
_"... Good Doctor Who"_ _shows Tennant Doctor_ Yes. You get a like for that.
@branthall1787
@branthall1787 2 жыл бұрын
Tennant era Doctor Who was easily the worst written and worst peformed. I've never encountered a single person educated on the topic of film and television who even likes that era, let alone thinks its the best.
@WoodsAreBeautiful
@WoodsAreBeautiful 2 жыл бұрын
@@branthall1787 ok tour definitely a troll
@branthall1787
@branthall1787 2 жыл бұрын
@@djdoc06 So google search backs up my point that I am yet to meet someone who actually understands the medium of television as well as thinks Tennant was a good doctor? Pray tell; what did tennant do besides overact and chew the scenery? He was the most formulaic Doctor imaginable. Every episode and series was the same. Guns, guns, damsel in distress, tennant shouting angrily for no reason, stupid word like "allons y", more guns...
@branthall1787
@branthall1787 2 жыл бұрын
@@WoodsAreBeautiful You're* You can't even spell and yet you think you're the one in the right?
@branthall1787
@branthall1787 2 жыл бұрын
@@djdoc06 I've literally just stated why he's the worst you imbecile. Extremely over formulaic ham actor who did nothing but chew the scenery. Literally every episode of his run is proof of that.
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 2 жыл бұрын
I respect that rather than keep talking about the version of the show you don't like, you just been talking about other episodes of Dr Who you like instead or providing a new insight like this comparison with Loki. I don't like the new era of the show either and don't have much confidence in the show going forward. But I'm also *really* sick of hearing about why it's bad cause it's all that anyone seems to want to talk about and they seem to keep hitting the same talking points over and over.
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad! More positive Who videos to come for sure!
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 2 жыл бұрын
@@FullFatVideos Thank you! Looking forward to it!
@adamfreddo5703
@adamfreddo5703 2 жыл бұрын
@@FullFatVideos classic Who by any chance? Your use of trial of a time Lord clips got me excited.
@gazda69
@gazda69 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I understand the reasons why some people aren't fans of Series 11 and 12, but it's really getting old hearing the same tired arguments and discussions over and over again (same can be said for the discussion around Star Wars Episodes VII - IX). The whole thing is losing its meaning.
@prjndigo
@prjndigo 2 жыл бұрын
I think the worst of Whitaker's series is that they forced her to bleach her hair. How the fuck do you regenerate with dark roots and bleached hair?
@LiveHedgehog
@LiveHedgehog 2 жыл бұрын
Sophia Di Martino is a pretty good actress, I'm glad she's getting more recognition in Loki. I didn't even realise she was Emma in Friday Night Dinner!
@rileymartin2202
@rileymartin2202 2 жыл бұрын
She also was in holby city for a bit so she’s definitely gone for a big hollywood break
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 8 ай бұрын
Sylvia’s still a little flat as a character but she does a low with what she’s given. I’m not even blaming the showrunners roo much for this. At some point in the last decade or so Disney execs fully embraced the Mary Sue. It almost feels like Marvel & Disney writers aren’t even allowed to give major female characters much any defining characteristics beyond being The Strong Woman. Some of their writers have rebelled (Hawkeye wrote some solid female characters) as have some of the actresses themselves. I started off hating Sylvia but Sophia finally won me over. 🙂
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, but EPISODE FIVE. I think this video would have doubled in length.
@brian72999
@brian72999 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! So excited and sad at the same time for the finale next week! I doubt there will be a season 2.
@znuh
@znuh 2 жыл бұрын
@@brian72999 season 2 is already confirmed by Feige.
@tylerquebedeaux3492
@tylerquebedeaux3492 2 жыл бұрын
Was awesome. Richard E Grants scene….. alligator Loki is my favorite Loki
@marnilicious3353
@marnilicious3353 2 жыл бұрын
A better use of Richard E. Grant indeed, that whole scene was awesome! I wish we coulda got more of him, but honestly this feels like a wandavision doctor strange cameo situation where while cool as it may have been, it woulda taken away a little from the main story being about Sylvie, Loki, Mobius, & (although we haven't seen perhaps as much of her) Ravonna.
@nooneleftbehide
@nooneleftbehide 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to make an video about episode 5 and 6
@sophiemason8444
@sophiemason8444 2 жыл бұрын
"Only Loki is best suited to saving people by showing them joy, mischief and reality" Don't know why, but that line made me smile. Loki's come a long way
@joshuaglaszek51
@joshuaglaszek51 2 жыл бұрын
maybe the real loki was the friends we made along the way
@avanishdutta2658
@avanishdutta2658 2 жыл бұрын
He is a shapeshifter, so..............
@Viceprezbacon
@Viceprezbacon 2 жыл бұрын
It almost feels like Doctor Who has gotten lazy. There haven't been many Sci-Fi shows that compete with it on a bigger scale. Loki is the first one to step up on a huge scale and it just shows the problems with the current direction of the show.
@mavsworld1733
@mavsworld1733 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I have a lot of friends who like the newest Doctor Who, and it seems to match their attitude on Brexit perfectly. They thought that the referendum was lost because most people in the country are stupid and need to be lectured at with the message the EU is great, over and over again. I'm not sure if that's what they really think, it's just the impression I get from talking to them. When talking to them about how I don't like the new Doctor Who slamming messages in your face like you're a child they repeat their idea about people being too stupid to understand otherwise. I get the impression that this is what a lot of the current writers if doctor who think too, as they are the same sort of people.
@bigcnmmerb0873
@bigcnmmerb0873 2 жыл бұрын
honestly loki is pretty much worse, it doesnt follow anything from whats happened in endgame, i mean the arrested loki for escaping and when loki points out he only escaped cause tony and steve time travelled, but APPERENTLY them time travelling was supposed to happen, which means that steve and tony going back to world war 2 to retrieve the teseract was also supposed to happen, but guess wat the only reason y tony and steve had to go to that time was because, Loki took the teseract and whooshed off, meaning Loki escaping was supposed to happen. Also the TVA destroyed the timeline that they found Loki in, WHICH IS STILL THE SAME TIMELINE THE ENTIRE AVENGERS TEAM WERE TAKING THE INFINITY STONES FROM, meaning since the TVA destroyed that entire, timeline, there was no timeline for steve to return the stones too, because it was deleted, and we already know thats not true because in endgame steve is still within the timeline and has lived through it meaning he fixed time, but according to Loki series, the TVA destroyed it meaning no timeline for steve to go to meaning steve would be creating a different timeline where there are now 2 of each infinity stones, since the stones were never taken from those timelines, tell me how does this make Loki a good show its just as dogshit as Doctor Who has become.
@goji253
@goji253 2 жыл бұрын
@Eythyn Thomas Kutty You are pathethic if one logical flaw makes the entire show dogshit. News Flash, so would every other Time Travel plot be, they always have a flaw. Hell, the flaw originates in Endgame, not Loki. Based on the pre-established laws of that movie Steve shouldn't even have been able to bring back the stones as they were not changing the past. Hence travelling to a changed past would be an impossibility. Lastly, are you seriously complaining about the TVA's claim that Endgame was supposed to happen as it did? When they have been lying through their teeth for 5 episodes now? Come on! The show even establishes how small things don't disturb the sacred timeline so long as they don't affect the big picture. The whole apocalypse thing and the existence of multiple Loki's is literally based on that concept. So if the TVA wants the Avengers to get the stones and undo the snap, then I doubt insignificant fluctuations like where they got it from matters. The show isn't dogshit for any of the reasons you implied, you just lack the basic comprehension skills to follow it even when it literally spells it out for you.
@themoose4216
@themoose4216 2 жыл бұрын
@@mavsworld1733 .... how did you manage to make doctor who about Brexit
@anerdwithaswitch9686
@anerdwithaswitch9686 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigcnmmerb0873 When the TVA pruned the Loki timeline from Endgame, they pruned _specifically_ the timeline branch caused by Loki's escape, as all branches caused by the stones being taken were reconnected by Steve returning the stones. Likewise, there was no branch to prune from Steve taking the Tesseract and Pym particles from SHIELD, since, like the rest of the stones, they were replaced mere moments after they were taken. I do find it likely, however, that the TVA pruned the branch caused by 2014 Thanos's jaunt over to 2023, but again, the stones wouldn't be affected, as they were already replaced.
@Merembor
@Merembor 2 жыл бұрын
"Use him, and use him well, Marvel." And they did. Holy cows, they did.
@sigmamale6128
@sigmamale6128 2 жыл бұрын
loki was shit, loki was a side character in his own show basically pusing the mostly female cast ahead and making the main loki look like an utter idiot and weak. they fucked up.
@kobiiscoolerthanyou7877
@kobiiscoolerthanyou7877 2 жыл бұрын
@@sigmamale6128 k
@pogzz
@pogzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@sigmamale6128 k
@RENO_K
@RENO_K 2 жыл бұрын
@@sigmamale6128 k
@nathaliepetrova2029
@nathaliepetrova2029 2 жыл бұрын
@@sigmamale6128 к
@jwec9867
@jwec9867 2 жыл бұрын
The idea of Sylvie (Female Loki) growing up on a 1,000 ending worlds reminds me of the master looking into the time vortex in season 3 when he was a boy and having that drive him insane.
@tonystark106422
@tonystark106422 2 жыл бұрын
This is legitimately fascinating...
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Nana-yt5is
@Nana-yt5is 2 жыл бұрын
I just feel sad about doctor who tbh, I used to be obsessed, I STILL remember many of the episode plots AND titles from Eccleston, tenant and smiths eras, there's literally no other series that has episodes this memorable to me. I might just watch capaldi's run down the line but it's sad seeing how it's declined since it's golden era.
@hclfgaming3743
@hclfgaming3743 2 жыл бұрын
Capaldi is the best doctor, watch it and you wont regret it
@dairoyx4754
@dairoyx4754 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely recommend Capaldi's run. I think it just kept getting better as it went on but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Man was born to be the Doctor
@Piccadally
@Piccadally 2 жыл бұрын
The Capaldi era was fantastic, I had trouble getting into it at first, especially after still "mourning" Smith's departure, but as it went on I came to really love it. Capaldi brought a brilliant side to the Doctor and I was really sad and teary-eyed when he regenerated/left.
@dylanburton4955
@dylanburton4955 2 жыл бұрын
Capaldis run was a great one and for me was the last time the show was great
@MinuteLeech2
@MinuteLeech2 2 жыл бұрын
I really like Capaldi's run. It also feels like a good conclusion to modern Who if you want to ignore what's next
@Carabas72
@Carabas72 2 жыл бұрын
It is, of course, a lot easier to be fresh and original when you're doing episode 4 of a show as opposed to episode 147. And that's without even considering the massive budget differences. Apart from that, the main difference between Loki and Who is that Loki is allowed to be properly serialised instead of having to wrap up a complete storyline in every episode.
@extremetoast5723
@extremetoast5723 2 жыл бұрын
But new doctors generally end up being personality resets. Capaldi returned to the more angry side of Eccleston for example, asking the question of whether he’s a good person, there’s room for stories to be told developing the doctor as a person.
@extremetoast5723
@extremetoast5723 2 жыл бұрын
@@HudsonMedia people act like you can’t have serialised TV and also a season long arc
@teraxe
@teraxe 2 жыл бұрын
That is actually something I was just talking to my friends about. It is one of the tricks that Marvel uses to keep it feeling fresh. Yes they made 20+ movies, but most of them all have different characters, even Ironman 2 introduced Black Widow and promoted Rhodes to War Machine, only a small handful don't swap up the characters. They also can draw from a myriad of genres. Most of these MCU series will not even get a season 2, and it is doubtful any will get a season 3, they will just keep making new shows with new stories and new characters, and it will go a long way to keeping it from feeling stale.
@Carabas72
@Carabas72 2 жыл бұрын
@@extremetoast5723 It is very hard to do serialised tv and not have a season-long arc. As for episodic tv with a season-long arc; it's no something Doctor Who has seriously tried. Mentioning the words Bad Wolf in every episode isn't an arc.
@extremetoast5723
@extremetoast5723 2 жыл бұрын
@@Carabas72 for seasons arc in doctor who I’m thinking more along the lines of the 4 season silence arc that Moffat did, which admittedly he seemed to lose interest in towards the end, hence the rushed ending. And no, it’s not hard to do serialised TV with no season arc, just look at most network comedies, even Doctor Who could still work without it.
@sidewire8777
@sidewire8777 2 жыл бұрын
Loki is like a mix between Doctor Who and Lucifer on Netflix, especially with Loki’s more villainous side, and the religious sub text of the show, of Loki being more of a Satan figure and his fall from grace
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
indeed i can see some lucifer parallels
@TheFunnyGuy9000
@TheFunnyGuy9000 2 жыл бұрын
He's got the humorous side like Discord from MLP
@sigmamale6128
@sigmamale6128 2 жыл бұрын
lucifer is utter garbage, honestly one of the stupidest and worst acted shows ive ever seen, something to rival the stupidity of the flash tv series.
@DoinItforNewCommTech
@DoinItforNewCommTech 2 жыл бұрын
@@sigmamale6128 Lucifer suffers from being a police procedural (always formulaic) and not really understanding the mythology they were adapting (you introduce God's wife and you don't even LOOK at Canaanite polytheism? For shame, Fox) but Tom Ellis is very, very good. The whole main cast is, actually. Maze, Linda, Ella, Dan and Trixie are all great (okay, Amenadiel is pretty wooden, D. B. Woodside has zero range, and frankly Chloe isn't very good either, but the rest are great)
@ApprenticeMors
@ApprenticeMors 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFunnyGuy9000 Lmao, Yes!
@ryanratchford2530
@ryanratchford2530 2 жыл бұрын
I love how perfectly Mobius is able to slap Loki down. Every quip and statement Mobius is able to come up with a patronising & disabling comeback that perfectly humbles & challanges Loki in a way that's necessary to strip back his facade & force Loki to come to terms with his truth & start his journey of self-actualisation & (sort of) heroric repemption. And this is furthered by his time spent with Sylvie & his raising opposition towards the TVA
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
He’s a brilliant counterweight to Loki. Who would have thought after all these years Loki’s match would be Owen Wilson!
@muanims
@muanims 2 жыл бұрын
@@FullFatVideos "Wow!"
@josephgriffiths9151
@josephgriffiths9151 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Whoever had the idea to cast Owen Wilson needs a raise!
@DalekCaanOfSkaro
@DalekCaanOfSkaro 2 жыл бұрын
I understand Loki has a massive budget considering it is a Disney show, but the writing is just incredible. You don't need piles of money to have a good imagination or writing, and Loki has managed to truly use the writing well and take time to think out this truly incredible plot. It has unique and special ideas thrown in and make it feel so incredible. It is imagination and wild dreams applied to a TV screen, in which Doctor Who has failed at recently. I'm all for apocalyptic future earths, but embracing it as a incredible spectical in a semi futuristic Supermarket is just inspired. The world's climate has changed, but keeping it subtle allows for further enjohment of what is happening, unlike a certain episode called "Orphan 55"
@TheJadedJames
@TheJadedJames 2 жыл бұрын
Doctor Who could totally make episodes of this quality on their lower budget it. Loki hasn’t even done anything that conceptually ambitious. It isn’t like there is an Endgame scale battle. Most of it takes place in the TVA HQ and other kind of mundane locations. The only alien planet we go to is really a big rock quarry
@joe94c
@joe94c 2 жыл бұрын
I see people complaining a out the writing and I really don't get why
@adc1222
@adc1222 2 жыл бұрын
@@joe94c one thing is that Loki's power level seems very inconsistent if the people he is fighting against are just normal humans, and the show hasn't done the best job of showing how that's not the case. Like the TVA agents all appear human but who knows what kind of cybernetic or genetic improvements they've had done on them, and they obviously have incredibly advanced technology. The humans that were possessed by Sylvie that Loki fought seemed like they had greatly enhanced strength, likely as a side effect of the enchantment, as no normal human can throw someone Loki's size around that easy, especially with Loki's Asgardian strength. And the train guards were likely Xandarian or Kree, and not normal humans, so who knows what their strength level was. That seems to be the main issue with the writing that I've seen people complain about
@joe94c
@joe94c 2 жыл бұрын
@@adc1222 even I've had a problem with the power levels. Everything else has been grear
@joe94c
@joe94c 2 жыл бұрын
@@SPDRM what? Are you one of those complaining about a shape shifters gender?
@Squicx
@Squicx 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, Asguard looks way more beautiful than Gallifrey. If Asguard constantly had a beautiful orange sunset, you’d have your perfect gallifrey
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree!
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 2 жыл бұрын
No, the Citadel in the bubble is more Who.
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 2 жыл бұрын
Starlight Citadel, Marvel UK
@ClaireWritesSometimes
@ClaireWritesSometimes 2 жыл бұрын
Can I also say that the scene where Loki's sexuality was confirmed was done with so much more grace than any of Moffat's cheeky weird stabs towards hints that were winks with any of his characters
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 жыл бұрын
Characters he made straight again or killed off anyway
@ClaireWritesSometimes
@ClaireWritesSometimes 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 If a character is even hinted to be bi, putting them in a relationship with someone of a different gender is not 'making them straight', unless the character says something stupid about their attraction to the same gender being 'a phase'. Moffat's wink wink nudge nudge might be annoying non-committal but please don't contribute to Bi erasure by decrying a bi character /person's attraction to another gender as 'turning straight'.
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClaireWritesSometimes Imagine defending straightwashing as bi rep. I also said he kills them off a lot, did this in Sherlock too
@ClaireWritesSometimes
@ClaireWritesSometimes 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 I'm not saying it's good bi rep but a bi person doesn't magically stop being bi when they date someone of a different gender. I don't like Moffat's non committal nonsense either but he at least implied Clara and the Doctor were bi or pan and that's how I headcanon them until a better writer confirms out outright. Danny Pink and River Song don't change that. Nor does Sylvie make Loki less Bi.
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClaireWritesSometimes I heard he made lesbian characters straight, I wasn't talking about Clara and The Doctor. It's only accidental bi rep, though Jack Harkness ain't a good portrayal either.
@ignarmackadingdongjr.6345
@ignarmackadingdongjr.6345 2 жыл бұрын
"Silvie is like 9 and Elev- Matt Smiths doctor."
@philippebernard4577
@philippebernard4577 2 жыл бұрын
😶😲😶 ???
@evertonporter7887
@evertonporter7887 Жыл бұрын
Silvie behaves like a mature Clara in Loki.
@SandersCat_yo
@SandersCat_yo 2 жыл бұрын
"tell me this doesn't sound like the Doctor" oh my god, it DOES
@benjones8098
@benjones8098 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope Mobius gets his jetski. He sounds so happy when talking about it. GIVE THE MAN A JETSKI!
@WandG_Fan
@WandG_Fan 2 жыл бұрын
All I can say between Loki and Doctor Who is: Loki is The Master
@katem.1330
@katem.1330 2 жыл бұрын
+
@dylanlewis5113
@dylanlewis5113 2 жыл бұрын
I used to laugh at the idea that Hiddleston should play The Doctor. Yeah, I liked him as Loki, but I didn't think he could pull off playing a character like The Doctor. Then the Loki series comes and and he plays Doctor Loki. Heck, I thought Sylvie's actress played a better female Doctor than Jodie Whittaker.
@shn7085
@shn7085 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I want New Loki to team up with the Guardians. I think their personalities contrast with his in all the right ways, and you could have a lot of fun with that, but also show new sides of them.
@wolfe1511
@wolfe1511 2 жыл бұрын
Yesh this would be amazing
@sebastiankroneder2774
@sebastiankroneder2774 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I still hope for a happy ending where this Loki and Sylvie (now as a couple) meet Thor and the Guardians. I know. Doubtful. But I would absolutely go out of the sattle. :D
@balrog0444
@balrog0444 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiankroneder2774 Sylvie X Loki is cute at first, but when you stop and think about it, the fact that they're biologically siblings makes it really weird.
@sebastiankroneder2774
@sebastiankroneder2774 2 жыл бұрын
@@balrog0444 How are they siblings. 😂 They are from different realities. They are just the person in the same spot of their reality. I mean I won't argue that it isn't kinda weird when you think longer about it, cause I mean, even Marvel says it (Mobius' dialogue in episode 4), but they are both so different characterwise that I don't give the slightest... you know what about that. :D I just like the idea of two persons who were alone all their lives and were outcasts, Loki a little bit more subliminal than Sylvie of course but outcast nonetheless, find each other and form a connection that makes them feel that someone actually loves them. And the way it's written and acted too. So yeah. I adore it and I ship it. End of story. :'D
@oPHILOSORAPTORo
@oPHILOSORAPTORo 2 жыл бұрын
@balrog0444 Thor: Go fuck yourself Loki: Okay
@Squicx
@Squicx 2 жыл бұрын
Loki is doing what Doctor who can’t. Sylvie is actually what I hoped the 13th to be. A touch of 10, with a hint of 12 and Missy. That PROVES the regeneration 12 had into 13 had some effect on the interaction with Missy. The regeneration 13 is a reflection of the past like 12s “who framed me this face” arc. The 13th Doctor is cowardly and the Timeless Child is pointless. They shouldn’t have ruined their chances on retconning the Doctors past while having the biggest risk (a female doctor) still going on. There’s nothing wrong with a female Doctor at all, but if you’re willing to alienate your audience with forcing them to accept this current storyline of retcon and disappointment, you’re asking for a ratings drop. You’re supposed to draw in and comfort old audiences.
@MrHodoAstartes
@MrHodoAstartes 2 жыл бұрын
Sylvie is proof-of-concept that there is no reason a female Doctor shouldn't work. And that she can be insecure and vulnerable at times without lacking in badass is basically a triumph of TV writing on the way to normalizing women as main characters. Having two Loki-variants inching towards a relationship, hungry for affection yet afraid of the betrayal they know to be their own failing was a master stroke. That pain and hesitation, because trusting each other means having to believe they themselves can be and do better for each other, that was just making the most meaningful possible scene out of the absurd sci-fi concept you're working with. Same with the loop of Sif kneeing Loki in the crotch. The shift from trying to avoid pain to sincere apology to genuine recognition of his immate flaws was as effective as it was conceptually funny and the ultimate torture for Loki. Seeing him genuinely grow, and then whince at all the other Lokis backstabbing for harebrained plans, being needlessly arrogant and ignorant, that is development sticking for good. Is it a luxury to get a fine-tuned script for exactly the number of episodes you want? Absolutely. Is the budget huge? Yes. But this would have been good if they had cheaper sets and some extraneous episodes, just because they had writers who knew what's up and there was no forced mystery that confused half the team as to who their characters even are.
@ariesroc
@ariesroc 2 жыл бұрын
"There’s nothing wrong with a female Doctor at all" With a good writer with good intentions it should work but in hindsight I'd say that there weren't good intentions and certainly not good writing. They've gone out of their way to make a female Doctor look bad and moronic.
@The0thDoctor
@The0thDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
@@ariesroc yeah, the female Doctor was done more for political points I thought - the show definitely didn't need it
@philippebernard4577
@philippebernard4577 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true. You nailed it. The one (huge) point you miss is that the regeneration from 12 to 13 is a failure because the writing team is new and very very bad. Chibnall "killed" Missy real quick, with all the other Moffat's creations. And Doctor Who also with the same shot... The BBC does probably has his prints too on the scene of the crime...
@Squicx
@Squicx 2 жыл бұрын
@@philippebernard4577 true!!
@redharvest298
@redharvest298 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully a better use of Richard E Grant..... "Glorious purpose"
@Person-uv2is
@Person-uv2is 2 жыл бұрын
Was it just me who thought good doctor who was the antidote for bad doctor who?
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
show me some receipts for good doctor who in the last four years though?
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 2 жыл бұрын
@@FullFatVideos Demons of the Punjab, Spyfall Part 1... some parts of Can You Hear Me? (shakes box) Nope, that's about it
@gilded_lady
@gilded_lady 2 жыл бұрын
Good Dr. Who doesn't exist right now, but if you need something for now Loki is a good fix.
@Person-uv2is
@Person-uv2is 2 жыл бұрын
I mean I think you are all forgetting about the brilliant work Big Finish had been doing.
@rickkmarks3488
@rickkmarks3488 2 жыл бұрын
@@gilded_lady Don't forget the 60s lost episodes animations BBC is releasing recently, those are some great content
@jakethet3206
@jakethet3206 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I’m only 1/4 thru the video, but I just wanted to say that I just love this!
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks T-dog!
@frankfreeman1553
@frankfreeman1553 2 жыл бұрын
Me: Oh no I watched the last two seasons of Doctor Who and I don't feel so good. Doctor: Take one season of Loki and call me in the morning.
@khaitranngoc4176
@khaitranngoc4176 2 жыл бұрын
You are the Doctor?
@frankfreeman1553
@frankfreeman1553 2 жыл бұрын
@@khaitranngoc4176 Doctor: Doctor...Doctor Who?
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 2 жыл бұрын
Original Size Deaths Head; "You are under arrest again , Yes, What ever you are? , You are not the Doctor any of you ,Yes!
@melodysoundy7627
@melodysoundy7627 2 жыл бұрын
39:43 Loki Episode 5 Spoilers Richard E Grant Richard E Grant stole the show this episode but I wish they had used more of him. To be written so incredibly to only be killed off in such a powerful way is frustrating. However I do think Richard E Grant was used alot better in Loki then in Doctor Who.
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was fantastic honestly, couldn’t be happier
@melodysoundy7627
@melodysoundy7627 2 жыл бұрын
@@FullFatVideos Yeah he was used brilliantly and perfect for the role of Classic Loki.
@msannioba5760
@msannioba5760 2 жыл бұрын
i appreciate how detailed u make these videos they must take forever to make, and i think everyone has given up on doctor who for the time being.
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
i try and turn them around as quickly as possible!
@TheDelinear
@TheDelinear 2 жыл бұрын
I was there the previous two times everyone gave up on the Doctor. Fortunately it tends not to stick :)
@ayamira8589
@ayamira8589 2 жыл бұрын
If Who had been canned every time someone said that "everyone has given up on it" or that "it's ruined" we wouldn't even have gotten a second season back in the days. xD Like Barry Hood said, fortunately this does not tend to stick. And I for one am still here for the ride and happy with it. ;)
@philippebernard4577
@philippebernard4577 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDelinear : I hope you're right, but we're in the XXIth century and things (and medias) are changing so fast !... And not in a good direction, in my opinion...
@ClaireWritesSometimes
@ClaireWritesSometimes 2 жыл бұрын
"There was a goblin. Or a trickster, or a warrior..."
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
"soaked in the blood of a million civilisations"
@ClaireWritesSometimes
@ClaireWritesSometimes 2 жыл бұрын
@@FullFatVideos I joked on twitter that Loki.was basically revisiting Doctor Who's best episodes (Fires of Pompeii, Utopia, there's some tonal comparisons to be made to Midnight and visual similarities to Silence in the Library) and wondered hakf jokingly if The Pandorica Opens, my favourite episode, would be next!
@philippebernard4577
@philippebernard4577 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClaireWritesSometimes Well, I just can't picture where did you see all those "similarities" ?!?...
@mikaylaeager7942
@mikaylaeager7942 2 жыл бұрын
It also feels like Natalie Ann Holt’s score was heavily inspired by Murray Gold. Gods I miss Gold’s run on Doctor Who!!
@TheJadedJames
@TheJadedJames 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so hyped whenever those opening and closing credits themes hit. They are freaking epic
@TheDanielk4
@TheDanielk4 2 жыл бұрын
Never watched Doctor Who. But i gotta say, Marvel gets props for actually making me care about a character i personally never liked in the past. Good on them
@InTenZeGamingHD
@InTenZeGamingHD 2 жыл бұрын
Highly recommend it if you like Loki. Watch from the 2005 series, it stays good until the 11th dies but has some great episodes after.
@JuLiane
@JuLiane 2 жыл бұрын
@@InTenZeGamingHD The 12th doctor's story is incredible too. His development from an indifferent ass who didn't even bother to remember who his friends were (when he confused Clara and Strax) to the end of S10 that made me cry like no other episode of Doctor Who before - he deserves so much more love. Peter Capaldi didn't just play the doctor, he was him.
@dasik84
@dasik84 2 жыл бұрын
@@JuLiane I had no problem with Capaldi as Doctor, but I couldn't stand how they ruined Clara. In Smith's era, she was the best companion Doctor has ever had. She was perfect. Then Smith changed into Capaldi and she completely changed her personality to bitching and neurotic. I simply had to stop watching because of what they did to her.
@andrewf1145
@andrewf1145 2 жыл бұрын
"Nine and Eleve-... Matt Smith's Doctor!" Had me dying.
@elbruces
@elbruces 2 жыл бұрын
One of the strongest parallels I saw was a relatively small but specific one: the notion of a weapon that appears to disintegrate its victims, but which we learn later was actually teleporting them to a prison of some sort. And I completely agree with them having a responsibility to do it right and shut up all the sexist naysayers. I felt the same way about the Ghostbusters reboot.
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@axllaw427
@axllaw427 Жыл бұрын
The last two episodes with the 9th Doctor
@GhostRydr1172
@GhostRydr1172 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Richard B. Grant was used splendidly this time around. Glorious purpose indeed.
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
glorious purpose!!!
@lyingbastard
@lyingbastard 2 жыл бұрын
"Better use of Richard E Grant" - holy shit did they nail that.
@pastlife960
@pastlife960 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. Loki is what I need right now. God I’m loving all of these Marvel shows.
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Loki was not what I was expecting but I was so happy it came out!
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on episode 5 and Black Widow: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5fVhWp-dpKglZY
@jwec9867
@jwec9867 2 жыл бұрын
The idea of Sylvie (Female Loki) growing up on a 1,000 ending worlds reminds me of the master looking into the time vortex in season 3 when he was a boy and having that drive him insane.
@aisnota5192
@aisnota5192 2 жыл бұрын
Prepare your ass for Efap.
@jwec9867
@jwec9867 2 жыл бұрын
@@aisnota5192 what is Efap?
@aisnota5192
@aisnota5192 2 жыл бұрын
@@jwec9867 A podcast that looks at bad video essays and THIS one has been selected. Being chosen by Efap is exposure, but it's a negative exposure. You're only choice is to either ignore it and hope the negative feedback dies down, or do what Downard Thrust did and commit some self reflection.
@jwec9867
@jwec9867 2 жыл бұрын
@@aisnota5192 Right? They should change the name of that podcast.
@Padverus
@Padverus 2 жыл бұрын
12:15 I think one explanation for Thor’s sudden change in personality was due to the amount of time he had spent on Earth, by the time Ragnarok takes place, he would of first came to earth almost 6 years ago. I’d imagine his time spent on earth changed him and made him lighten up a little bit. Obviously the real world explanation is the first two Thor movies just didn’t do as good as other MCU movies and as an audience member it’s sort of hard to relate or connect with a character who sounds like he’s in a Shakespeare play so Marvel knew they had to switch something up with the Thor movies.
@AcbTyson
@AcbTyson 2 жыл бұрын
After being an obsessed Doctor Who fan since my first memory, I gave up on Whittaker halfway through Kerblam and haven't returned. So yes, Loki is certainly fulfilling a need. The detail is intense.
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 2 жыл бұрын
Original Size Deaths Head; "You are under arrest again , Yes, What ever you are? , You are not the Doctor any of you ,Yes!
@falcon6489
@falcon6489 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw lady loki I immediatly thought, "oh are they gonna make this loki superior to our loki" or "are they gonna make sylvie overshadow our loki?" But I am so glad that they both build off of eachother and both have thier weaknesses.
@dragonskunkstudio7582
@dragonskunkstudio7582 2 жыл бұрын
"Star Trek Discovery" "Picard" "Star Wars 7, 8, 9" "Post Capaldi Dr Who" I've taken the decision to step away from it. You get good sci-fi where you can find it. Recently I enjoyed "Resident Alien" that was fun. Produced by Robert Duncan McNeill (Tom Paris)
@TheSonicShoe
@TheSonicShoe 2 жыл бұрын
were discovery and picard really as bad as the star wars sequels? I only watched a little of discovery, and aside from """"spock"""" being horrrrrrribly miscast, I didn't really see anything wrong with that series. does it jump the shark later on?
@dragonskunkstudio7582
@dragonskunkstudio7582 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSonicShoe It's fine for anyone to enjoy as long as you don't care about, story structure, logic, the spirit of the series, that there are so many unlikable characters, the wokeness, the Mary Sues, I can go on but it's depressing.
@EZEMEAT2000
@EZEMEAT2000 2 жыл бұрын
Try The Expanse, its very good, but less scifi than marvel or doctor who universe (hope that made sense)
@IceTemple13
@IceTemple13 2 жыл бұрын
​@@TheSonicShoe Star Trek has, the whole time, had a very loyal fanbase who continue to follow all the books that maintain lore consistency. the new shows come it and just SHIT all over it. Picard essentially "kills the puppy" but killing a certain character from previous series in such a brutal manner and Star Trek discovery just shits all over the continuity by being a prequel with more advanced tech. The new Trek movies (while defs more action oriented) still at least FELT like star trek, the aesthetic was updated but it didn't feel wrong, just better looking.
@koalabarbs9955
@koalabarbs9955 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSonicShoe In my opinion, Discovery keeps getting better every season! The latest was especially good.
@Jansenbaker
@Jansenbaker 2 жыл бұрын
"Storm, the Beast, the Valyard." looking at Boastful, gator, and Classic Lokis.😆🤣 Perfect!
@Pacmanfan-po9rn
@Pacmanfan-po9rn 2 жыл бұрын
I just want good Doctor Who again, series 10 was a good step then they fucked it all upm
@TheJadedJames
@TheJadedJames 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Series 10. It is crazy to think it has been 4 years since I legitimately enjoyed Doctor Who
@Pacmanfan-po9rn
@Pacmanfan-po9rn 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheJadedJames I wasn't a fan of Matt Smith nor did I enjoy Clara, so series 10 was a fantastic change of pace. If only the momentum from it remained in the 11th series instead of feeling flat.
@kryten1016
@kryten1016 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pacmanfan-po9rn i agree with you about season 10, but boy did i love matt smith tho
@daedalus6433
@daedalus6433 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pacmanfan-po9rn Eh, 12th only getting one good series was a shame.
@TaterProduction
@TaterProduction 2 жыл бұрын
​@@daedalus6433 whaaat series 8 and 9 were awesome, Clara got WAY better after series 7, Capaldi was of course the best, and there were some absolutely epic storylines that are some of my favorites of all time, heaven sent, listen, mummy, under the lake/before the flood, and I love almost every other episode lol, sure some are better than others but they were still really solid series. but series 10 was really good and consistent, and it changed up the formula and added some fresh elements that worked really well. and that finale, wow. now im depressed thinking about how awfully this show has been handled.
@AGBULLIT
@AGBULLIT 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy Dr. Who and Loki. I am glad that I am not the only one to see the similarities. While every regeneration is not a fan favorite there is always the next Doctor to look forward to. Hopefully Loki will push Dr. Who to be better. The best episodes are those that previous Doctors interact with the present Doctor. So let us look forward to Dr. Who’s 60 anniversary. 60 years of storytelling, there are bound to be ups and downs. In the meantime I enjoy traveling with the Doctor and Loki.
@cloudsombrero
@cloudsombrero 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it probably wont sadly Historically the anniversary specials have been hot messes
@MercuryKnight5
@MercuryKnight5 2 жыл бұрын
That's what Loki does; push people to be their best selves. ;)
@steventhomas2856
@steventhomas2856 2 жыл бұрын
@@MercuryKnight5 The Man Who Makes People Better? ... Well, compared to him, anyways.
@iwillheadlockyournan731
@iwillheadlockyournan731 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking this!!!!! Sylvie would have been an immense doctor
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@taylorbrown7586
@taylorbrown7586 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as we met her, I turned to my sister and said, "This. This is what I wanted 13 to be like."
@iwillheadlockyournan731
@iwillheadlockyournan731 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorbrown7586 Exactly, mate. I’m glad that Loki is as good as it is, but it is painful to see someone else hit the Doctor Who vibe out of the park as the quality of Doctor Who itself seemingly deteriorates year by year.
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 2 жыл бұрын
This is why the Doctor should have stayed with Marvel UK to begin with then none of these variant Doctors would be running around the timelines! Marvel UK Woz Ere.
@jeromelancashire3278
@jeromelancashire3278 2 жыл бұрын
18:50 I would compare to Sylvie more to River Song, A mysterious female with a strong connection to our hero, kidnapped at a young age, shown to be able to compare/outwit our hero, make Sylvie more flirtatious and you have River Song.
@Morphed626
@Morphed626 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely feel what you’re saying on how DW has changed. I still watch it, hoping that it improves but the ret con is a bit of a joke and takes away from the character of the doctor. It’s also kind of sad seeing a show that was so beloved, become one that is meh or ok. Great thought experiment/vid essay on a positive note. I was getting strong doctor/master vibes from Toms performance
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
I was in that place with S12 but I honestly just feel like a mug continuing on after the finale. I appreciate wanting to stick with it, I think its just time for me!
@Morphed626
@Morphed626 2 жыл бұрын
LOL there is a bit of me that feels like the studio is taking the mick and bleeding my loyalty. I’m still deciding if I’ll do S13 but honestly I think I’ll just love the re runs and take capaldis run (my personal fave) as the finale
@daemianmatthews2062
@daemianmatthews2062 2 жыл бұрын
The only way Doctor Who will improve is to fire Chris Chibnall
@ayamira8589
@ayamira8589 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask why you think the Timeless Child is a joke, or a retcon? You do realise that it was The Lonely Assassin that retconned The Morbius Doctors, which were definitely meant to be pre-Hartnell incarnations (as per Hinchcliffe himself)? So Chibnall is actually re-canonising the Morbius Doctors, as well as finally making use of what was mentioned of Cartmell's masterplan during McCoy's run. It solves way more plot-holes than it creates, and even the ones it creates can be explained much easier than some other things in the show. Sometimes I feel like many don't know the show's history well enough, and thus think it's a retcon when really it is not. Which is another reason why Who and Loki can't be compared. Who has a 50+ years legacy to work with, whereas the MCU and especially Loki are just taking hints from the comics but are otherwise free to do their own stuff with only a limited amount of plot points to consider (in Loki's case).
@Morphed626
@Morphed626 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayamira8589 during the 7th doctor era, they toyed with the idea of making the doctor into a powerful and mysterious being who was part of the triumvirate. Thank god they didn’t. The doctor as the timeless child for me takes away more than it gives. Do I think it’s impossible to make this story work? No. Do I think chibnall is the guy for it? Also no. Now that gallifrey has been found maybe they feel the doctor needs another mystery but I feel they miss the point. Also would like to add that it’s not fair to assume that others aren’t invested in the classic series as yourself.
@prabeshgurung1067
@prabeshgurung1067 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus, you actually hit the jackpot with the comparison. I was wondering what felt familiar. Loki's mannerism and how just wacky the show gets with gripping story and charismatic characters.
@CuriosityRocks
@CuriosityRocks 2 жыл бұрын
Loki has made me think that maybe Marvel and Disney should buy Doctor Who from the BBC. Better budget, better marketing, better merchandising.
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
I want it in the hands of someone who cares, but thats probably not disney imo
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Who apparently would be a pain to aquire rights for. They don't own the Daleks for instance, so whoever bought the show would have to deal with Terry Nation estate
@Budbrothers420
@Budbrothers420 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-vf5gk sure that would just be pocket money for Disney 🤣
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 2 жыл бұрын
@@Budbrothers420 Very true but then they'd have to deal with Terry Nation's ghost. He's still mad about Remembrance of the Daleks
@Budbrothers420
@Budbrothers420 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-vf5gk haha fair enough hate myself for saying this but Disney would have the potential of making the show good again
@nathantremblay4529
@nathantremblay4529 2 жыл бұрын
“Hopefully a better use of Richard E. Grant” everyone thank this man for manifesting that top tier character for us.
@golden_gloo
@golden_gloo 2 жыл бұрын
After Tom Hiddleston's done you could even have a regeneration counterpart by picking up on an alternate reality version of Loki to steer the show in a new unique direction that could just go on for ever and not get old.
@ThePa1riot
@ThePa1riot 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised at how much I've been enjoying this show. I was never quite as enamored with Loki as everyone else seemed to be but now that you've run through the comparisons so thoroughly, I can understand why I like the show as much as I do. It reminded me so much of when I met the Doctor way back when he was number 9.
@gryfon_gamez8184
@gryfon_gamez8184 2 жыл бұрын
'Loki' is just Tom Hiddelston's audition to be the next doctor
@EternalDensity
@EternalDensity 2 жыл бұрын
Or is it two such auditions?
@gryfon_gamez8184
@gryfon_gamez8184 2 жыл бұрын
@@EternalDensity maybe
@edgy22
@edgy22 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at the current state of doctor who is honestly just depressing, it makes you realize it will probably never be redeemed to it’s former glory.
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 2 жыл бұрын
Original Size Deaths Head; "You are under arrest again , Yes, What ever you are? , You are not the Doctor any of you ,Yes!
@DeepThought42
@DeepThought42 2 жыл бұрын
@Edgy Cheer up, that's what everyone thought in the late 80s, and when they stopped making Who we thought we were right. Then we reached 2005.
@binayakthakur5122
@binayakthakur5122 2 жыл бұрын
if loki is able to meet his mother , it would literally make me cry
@quasarkwell4823
@quasarkwell4823 2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned his "blue box", but there was literally a scene with the receptionist guy saying "I know you, you're that criminal with the blue box!"
@nadiahapsari3359
@nadiahapsari3359 6 ай бұрын
When?
@kimshinshiro
@kimshinshiro 2 жыл бұрын
I'm watching the newest Efap video where u are and I gotta respect the way u came into the discussion. You were open to ideas and listened what the other were saying. (Unlike other guest) and even tho u might have different opinions to them, u were still understanding and kind. Hope to see you in Efap some other time, man! :)
@NiohArcadia
@NiohArcadia 2 жыл бұрын
Same I hope he goes the Jay route from becoming a occasional guest to a member. Much respects to Matt for being open minded and cordial
@abdullahx4908
@abdullahx4908 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Loki’s redemption is genuine and earnest, drawing on his internal desires for love and companionship. He wanted to feel loved and be acknowledged by his family but he realised he was, he saw how his actions affected the people that he loved. He realised he was loved, but his actions made him lose that. His actions brought suffering to everyone. And he discovered that his life ended as a joke, dead. He saw that there was no use for trickster Loki, because trickster Loki only brought pain to everyone else and him
@kurtchristel4035
@kurtchristel4035 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not enjoying the chibnall era of doctor who at all, but they definitely have the best looking special effects to date. Too bad they couldn't spend more money on writing a good script.
@philippebernard4577
@philippebernard4577 2 жыл бұрын
To write a good script, you don't need a lot of money; you need someone who knows how to write and who is passioned by his job, his characters... DW always had been known for his cheap special effects and good ideas. For sure, they've put more money in the 'making'; but the scripts are so weak and comon !... They should have stay with the same recipe, instead wanting to copy the US series : That was an absurd move, for sure !
@santesia6222
@santesia6222 2 жыл бұрын
Richard E Grant's Loki was AMAZING.
@daph.leppard
@daph.leppard 2 жыл бұрын
Hiddleston HAS to be cast as the Doctor at some point in our lifetime, right? It just HAS to happen. I don't care if I have to wait 20 years for it. I am all for an old Tom playing the Doctor !
@shieldgenerator7
@shieldgenerator7 2 жыл бұрын
i never realized how many similarities loki has to the doctor. it really makes me appreciate the show more
@katherinealvarez9216
@katherinealvarez9216 2 жыл бұрын
7:04 yup, Loki was like the one good thing in that movie (I dislike Dark World). They wasted Christopher Eccelston.
@DareBear2099
@DareBear2099 2 жыл бұрын
Literally told one of my friends this two days ago, that Loki is doing the best Doctor Who in a decade
@yvngarmz5984
@yvngarmz5984 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, all these mashup edits are incredible. A very interesting comparison. Never really thought about it as I stopped watching DW after being disappointed by the start of Capaldi's run(I'd just stay relatively updated through your videos). But the Loki show felt really fun and familiar, and you made me realise why. Loki truly is Marvels time-lord! I've really been enjoying the whovian flare in this series. Great video!!!!!!!
@mrmaestro3043
@mrmaestro3043 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the music used in this video please? Around 2:50 is what I’m looking for really. Thanks
@0326jlc
@0326jlc 2 жыл бұрын
Well Cant wait till Kang concurs the universe with his army of jet skis
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 2 жыл бұрын
Groovy.
@roryevans4295
@roryevans4295 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve cut some of this together brilliantly btw 👍
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Rory the Roman?! Thank you!
@roryevans4295
@roryevans4295 2 жыл бұрын
@@FullFatVideos yeah I’m off to die now because I’m called Rory it’s what we do (don’t worry I’ll be back I wouldn’t mind being made out of plastic) 😂
@RETROTITANPLAYS
@RETROTITANPLAYS 2 жыл бұрын
To talk about the intro, yes... Doctor Who is now bad, but it has everything to do with the writers. The actress is honestly pretty good, it's just a shame she didn't have a good team to support her.
@edgarnello9165
@edgarnello9165 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly. Shes doing the best with what shes been given
@RETROTITANPLAYS
@RETROTITANPLAYS 2 жыл бұрын
@@edgarnello9165 Amen to that.
@NoahBrown69
@NoahBrown69 2 жыл бұрын
Im so glad somebody else is talking about this none of my friends watch Who so when we were watching Loki and I was like "this is just like Doctor Who" they were like "wtf are u talking about"
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
none of my friends who watch loki watch who, i was in the same boat lol
@asmrrichard5914
@asmrrichard5914 2 жыл бұрын
I have never watched doctor who, but man you really sold me on the fact that loki is like doctor who
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
if you liked Loki, you'll love it!
@rakor8914
@rakor8914 2 жыл бұрын
You´re on EFAP. Congratulation, you´ve made it. Now you´re famous.
@ericjiang8948
@ericjiang8948 2 жыл бұрын
Pfft, those guys don't even believe half the garbage they spew for views
@sparkypack
@sparkypack 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that objectivity is denied by so many people, hence why EFAP exists.
@HeroesFeastoes
@HeroesFeastoes 2 жыл бұрын
This - THIS - is why I love this channel. This video feels tailor-made to my obsessions and I'm clearly not the only one who feels this way. Thank you for making it. And if you have the energy for a part 2 (possibly fueled by Alligator Loki alone?), I wouldn't be mad at that.
@theladyprincess
@theladyprincess 2 жыл бұрын
i'm not from the UK or the US but internationally speaking i could say doctor who peaked during eleven's era (2011-2014 were the days, i was literally part of the superwholock bunch) and honestly all i can think of is how sylvie in the loki show is definitely what jodie as thirteen should have been had we not had chibs as dw's current show runner lmao
@ElazarYershovFilms
@ElazarYershovFilms 2 жыл бұрын
The modern dr who COMICS are amazing. It’s the writing and the acting that ruins modern who
@philippebernard4577
@philippebernard4577 2 жыл бұрын
... Since 2018...
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 2 жыл бұрын
Since Marvel UK lost the rights, But a Captain Britain movie can fix this, Original Size Deaths Head; "You are under arrest again , Yes, What ever you are? , You are not the Doctor any of you ,Yes!
@Adrian-zd4cs
@Adrian-zd4cs 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate your videos. The love and dedication you give to these stories is amazing. 💞
@FullFatVideos
@FullFatVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that really means a lot
@corradocorradi-dellacqua7462
@corradocorradi-dellacqua7462 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice analysis. Indeed, the TVA would have made an excelled villain for the Doctor. Furthermore, I really see the Tom Hiddleston's Loki character at the Tardis' helm. However, I don't see the same for Sophia Di Martino's take on the character, which is more consistent with that of the (classical) scorned person in search of a payback. Up to now, the best female incarnation of the time wonderer is that offered by Jo Martin.
@toddknaperek8225
@toddknaperek8225 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of snickered in episode 5 where Renslayer said she had a spaceship which could get them to the end of the timeline. I was half expecting to see a red phone booth parked in a TVA hanger.
@Hanmacx
@Hanmacx 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about DC and "legends of tomorrow" xD
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