LOL - How Did LEAGUE PLAY Go This Week? :) 8 BALL APA League Match. SL7 vs SL 7

Josh Powell vs Paul Hurt
Played @ Side Pocket in Lapeer, MI
APA Thumb Area - Southeast Michigan
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[@mattevans1643]

He did have a shot on the 8 be it a risky one. If there is one thing i have learned about corner pockets, it's that you can easily make any ball in the opposite corner pocket. When you're trying to so it though, that's much harder.

[@chitownxring1444]

Josh, to me it really doesn't matter who wins when I watch your matches as long as you are commentating on where on the cue you are going to hit the ball and why.. Please more of that.. Keep the vids coming. -=Efrain=-

[@Amateur_Pool]

Thanks, bro! I appreciate that.

[@dingledangledingdong2693]

1st game, instead of trying a 'Hail Mary' shot on the 10 in the side, you should have clipped the 14 easy tapping the 6 out of the way of the side pocket. Then your opponent would have no shot being blocked by his own balls. Easy safety. Plus both your stripes are now makeable.

[@ERDG516]

Great shot at 48:15, probably didn’t notice to feel more positive about your game. Was that a 7 or 5 o’clock hit? A real player with integrity show his/her wins and losses.

[@Amateur_Pool]

Thank you! It looks like it was a straight stun shot, but i can't remember. This match was a while ago

[@prestup324]

In recent videos you talked a lot about needing to get back into practicing and that it was affecting your game not doing so. Could you maybe do a longer form video of just what your practice routine/session looks like. It doesnt really need commentary or anything, but just really curious what you do to practice personally.

[@Amateur_Pool]

Maybe I'll go live for a practice session. Problem is, those are boring videos, lol. Thanks for watching!

[@prestup324]

@@Amateur_Pool live is a good option! Since it can be watched after the fact I agree pretty boring though but it’s good to see sometimes.

[@Amateur_Pool]

@prestup324 I'm sure I'll do some live's in the future

[@davelariviere]

Okay, not trying to be mean here but you might want to adjust your shooting. Yes the pros put their chin on the cue but as we age we change. Bending that much tightens things up. Rise up about 6 inches above your cue and you won't be so tight. Your stroke will smooth out. Some adjusting of your aim may be required. Not saying you're old! Just more seasoned then you were! Lol

[@Amateur_Pool]

Appreciate the tip but, my tightness comes from a muscle disorder that i have (myotonia congenita), not from getting too far down in my shot, or getting old.

[@anon2414]

You can tell it was a double hit from the cueball movement.. it should have been a stop shot but the cue ball rolled forward because it was a double hit..

[@Amateur_Pool]

🤜🤛

[@cj-ef1rp]

Game 5 was not a double hit either. He’s striking down/punching it which “I think” is causing it to pop up. Also, per the WPA rule book, an unintentional miscue (you might argue he’s miscuing) is not a foul. You should be able to hear a double hit depending upon the noise level.

[@Amateur_Pool]

The first one may not have been but, I'm fairly certain the second one was. But, you are right about the miscue.. apa doesnt consider a miscue a foul

[@cj-ef1rp]

No doubt about the mental anguish side when playing someone who you don’t enjoy playing. Makes every shot more difficult and every fluke they get unbearable. Delighted you toasted that hump…

[@Amateur_Pool]

Lol... thanks!

[@JerryLee..]

Great commentary and honesty. It helps people like me quite a bit. Keep growing the game and the channel!

[@Amateur_Pool]

Thanks, Jerry Lee

[@procrastinator6902]

25:55 I slowed this one down to re-watch it and he actually committed a scoop jump foul here

[@Amateur_Pool]

Is close, for sure. However, in the apa, there's no foul for a scoop jump, unless it's on purpose. I don't think he meant to

[@user-zw9jy8if9y]

Hey Buddy How long have you been shooting with APA? How long were you a five and then a six before making it to a seven.? I'm currently a five in 8ball and one session under my belt in nine ball where i just made six. Again I love your content.

[@Amateur_Pool]

Thanks, man.. i appreciate the kind words. I don't remember how long i was a 5, then a 6.

[@patrickthompson7786]

Enjoy watching the matches.I was a 5 in the CPA in Canada 14:00

[@Amateur_Pool]

Awesome! Thanks for watching!

[@clintd1704]

Slowed down the video on Paul’s 9 ball shot. Looks like he miscued and when the cue ball was coming back down it hit his tip. So yes, double hit. Tough to call in APA though. You talked about elevating your game. Do you play Masters?

[@Amateur_Pool]

Not yet. The area i play in doesn't have a masters division yet

[@patrickthompson7786]

I wish i had taken it more seriously myself

[@rodneyestes5410]

🎶🎤Now everybody...Have you heard...If you're in the game... Then Stroke's the word...🎶

[@Amateur_Pool]

Lol

[@mikestuckey]

alright so in game 4 of the match when you were concerned with the double hit from paul, did you place that seven ball back in a more favorable position? and is that legal? timestamp is 26:30

[@Amateur_Pool]

Watching it back, it does look like i put it in a different location. If you watch it again, i put it where Paul pointed to. I didn't see exactly where it was before, when i moved it back. Yes, it's legal. Apa says the opponent must move it back to where they thought it was. Since i didn't see exactly where it was, i moved it back, based on his recommendation

[@mikestuckey]

gotcha. wasn’t calling you out or anything just wondered if that was something people did. balls being moved inadvertently happens so much ya know. btw, love the content/channel. trying to start my channel as well. there’s a need for more vids like ours about pool!

[@Amateur_Pool]

@@mikestuckey nice work! Love the vlog style videos.. I'll keep an eye on your channel. I want to do some more vlog style stuff also. If you are ever by me (Michigan) we could record something

[@mikestuckey]

@@Amateur_Pool i’ll be up that way soon. let’s do it! will keep you posted!

[@Amateur_Pool]

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[@gmalonesr]

Definitely a double hit and that may be what caused him to move the 7 ball. I hate to say it was intentional since I don't know the man. So I will chalk it up to the jerking motion from getting the cue stick out of the way. The 7 was not placed back in the same spot because he pointed to the wrong spot.

[@Amateur_Pool]

Thanks for taking a second look

[@paultrumphour3808]

Safe on the 10, game 1.

[@TornadoCop]

hey Josh, thanks for all the great videos! I’m sure you’ve been asked this before, but what’s the purpose of that blue square you use on the break?

[@Amateur_Pool]

That's a break cloth. It helps keep the felt from wearing out so fast. Thanks for watching!

[@raymerrill5129]

I’ve been watching your videos since I found your channel and have enjoyed them, it’s refreshing to see in this episode that everyone struggles sometimes lol! That’s been me this whole session, keep up the great videos my man

[@Amateur_Pool]

Thanks Ray! I try to post all the videos that i record (unless the video quality is bad for some reason (blurry, too shaky, etc). I've got a ton of losses on here too. I think we can learn more from when we struggle. I appreciate the comment and support! Thanks!

[@michaelmcdonald6794]

@@Amateur_Pool Well I learned a lot this last Sunday then. LOL I lost to a 6 in a hill hill match. I blew it on the last ball going to the 8. Messed up the shape and just missed the cross side bank. Bounced off the *itty. I declared I hate *itties and my LO said BS... I agree she is right. I love them. Just not in pool.

[@Amateur_Pool]

@@michaelmcdonald6794 lol.. I've been there. That's rough

[@paultrumphour3808]

Good job

[@Amateur_Pool]

Thanks, Paul

[@carnivalt1449]

The cue ball can also jump if you elevate the stick and hit it with top spin. This will cause the cue ball to jump when it hits an object ball or a rail

[@Amateur_Pool]

True!

[@carnivalt1449]

@Amateur_Pool and after looking back, it doesn't look like a double hit on either shot. They more times than not when double hit tend to have a far more follow spin on the cue

[@Amateur_Pool]

@@carnivalt1449 we'll agree to disagree, lol 😆

[@carnivalt1449]

@Amateur_Pool for sure! Not trying to disrespect my brother! You're a good shot an I enjoy the videos man keep em up

[@Amateur_Pool]

@carnivalt1449 no disrespect taken bro... i was emotionally vested in the match so, i chose to see it as a foul, lol. I know it really could have gone either way 😁

[@michaelmcdonald6794]

I’m Irish and Puerto Rican. What I can say is when you try to speak Spanish Latin people appreciate it a lot. It is a romantic language. They will go out of their way for you. Cook some good Latin foods and show you the old country on vacation where we tend to have family still living there. Show you the sites.

[@Amateur_Pool]

I love the language and wish i were fluent

[@danp6101]

Hey Josh. the first hit was a good hit. the second hit wasn't a double hit. it jumped because he went really low so it was real close to scoop hit.

[@Amateur_Pool]

Thanks for taking a closer look!

[@jamesstaton9013]

I had a major arugement two years ago about one of these double hits. Many players don't know that those are bad hits and why. Even most captains. Best to get someone who knows to watch. Don't leave it up to the shooter.

[@Amateur_Pool]

I agree... sometimes, you don't expect it from a higher level player though so, it's harder to call a spotter in

[@jdude9002]

Lil chris also commentates too hes a sl 7 apa on his channel.

[@Amateur_Pool]

I've seen him do recaps... didn't know he commentated.. I've chatted with Chris a few times.. he's a good dude

[@nickg9021]

@@Amateur_Pool Yeah , Lil Chris not only comments but also analyzes run out patterns and involves viewers in laying out their preferred runout pattern as well. There's a lot to learn from doing this exercise since it teaches us , the hopeful upcomers , a new way of looking at the table before starting to pot balls. He can be , as another commenter above mentioned, a little pedantic and less fun to watch than you,Josh , but everybody has their own way of doing things and both can have value.

[@Amateur_Pool]

@nickg9021 absolutely.. I've watched a lot of his tutorial and, practice drill videos.. I've learned a lot from him

[@LopingCSF]

Enjoyed the match, Josh. It's nice to see someone who plays so far beyond my level struggle (no offense). Helps to feel less bad about my own struggles.

[@Amateur_Pool]

Everyone struggles.. just part of the game. Thanks for watching!

[@joachimfuchs7061]

Lil Timmy has short arms. So he has a long bridge 😂

[@Amateur_Pool]

Lmaooooo

[@nickg9021]

We want to SEE little Timmy online some day . @@Amateur_Pool

[@danp6101]

Hey Josh. if you go play in Derby City tournament or any for that matter. Play the percentage of the shot you're shooting. This can change for every match that you play. a Pro told me this when I was just starting to play in the Pro tournaments and it helped me a lot.

[@Amateur_Pool]

Great tip.. thanks

[@briandavis2783]

Really enjoy your videos, just found these last week and think i have watched all of them, its nice to know i am not the only 7 that miss shots we are really not supposed to. Kicking myself at least once or twice every league night. LOL!

[@Amateur_Pool]

We all do! That's the beauty of being an amateur! Thanks for watching, BD.. i got more contact coming soon. Posting an APA suspension update on the next day or 2

[@nickbeat5141]

You sometimes miss the easier touchy shots. It's like your 50% focused on making it and 50% focused on position.

[@Amateur_Pool]

And, 50% focused on a ham sandwich or something, lol

[@DebbieDavidson-d1c]

Paul won that lag .. his ball is clearly closer to the rail 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@Amateur_Pool]

He actually didn't.. we measured it

[@wesguitarra91]

Your vids are awesome man, thanks for posting these

[@Amateur_Pool]

Thanks for watching them! I appreciate it

[@nightstalkerzthermalhoghun848]

Why did u move solid ball off rail on the possible double hit. U moved in line with cue ball and side pocket it was not hit in shot he made what am I missing lol ?

[@Amateur_Pool]

What timestamp?

[@LopingCSF]

Opponent accidentally moved the 7 ball with his hand/cue when shooting the 9 ball. In APA this is not a foul, but the non-shooting player has to placed the moved ball back to it's original position (as best he can). If an accidentally moved ball hits the cue ball, however, that's a ball in hand foul.

[@Amateur_Pool]

@LopingCSF ahh, thanks. I want sure what part he was referring to..

[@JamesWells513]

Great job on commentary Josh! That match was a struggle for sure but you struggled through it and came out on top! 👍👍

[@Amateur_Pool]

Ya, it was a rough one! Thanks

[@moviesclassics1970]

Josh...No double kiss on ur shot u commented on...he popped the cue in the air so it didnt double kiss

[@Amateur_Pool]

Ahhh

[@user-do1fq8oy9c]

So fucking painful. I feel like I have lost a skill level or two having watched that!

[@Amateur_Pool]

I know, right!

[@xdecemberguy1]

What if you make a solid and stripe on break?

[@Amateur_Pool]

It would still be open if you make one of each

[@dingledangledingdong2693]

Game 3. Paul playing an easy combo on the stripes. Smashes the balls, missed the shot, knocked the balls everywhere. Lucky he didn't scratch or drop the 8. Foolish...

[@anon2414]

Dude u r funny lol... Paul's double vision when he was cleaning his glasses... it's from drinking it's not from your glasses Paul 😂😂😂... I'm also one of those people that say I play better buzzed

[@Amateur_Pool]

Lol... i think there's kind of a sweet spot with drinking but, I'll explain more in my video.. it'll be out soon

[@nightstalkerzthermalhoghun848]

I gots a question that happed last night on apa 8 ball practice game. I brake and make one of each and next shot one and a stripe is by side pocket. I shoot one for corner pocket and cue ball is stalled by the stripe but makes the stripe before the one gets to corner pocket. I say its still open he said i shot at one and thats my ball i called bullshit another guy said still open but he was not getting off the one who is rt. Lol.

[@nickg9021]

If you were playing APA then YOU were correct . If the table is open ,ANY shot that pockets at least one ball from each group results in the table remaining open. Which ball the shooter intended to make does not enter into it. Which ball you strike first doesn't matter either , nor does which ball drops first . Only after a shot where only balls from ONE group are pocketed . THEN it is decided . Tell them to read the APA rules manual .

[@Amateur_Pool]

Nice is correct. If you pocket one of each, on an open table, it's still open (according to apa rules)

[@Amateur_Pool]

💯

[@gman5051]

First ! Hey Josh on those close lags , use your cue stick ,off the end rail rubber to the back of both balls to determine whose closest . Thanks for the video!

[@Amateur_Pool]

Editing - i did actually use the stick for this one.. probably edited out

[@xtbum3339]

Your opponent for going for cross corner with his last stripe in the 2nd game.

[@TwoEagleStar]

Struggle bus match but you made it through and got the win! We all have those days Josh where we're just not feeling it and continue to push thru. i think these are some of the best matches to learn from in the end bud. Continued success!!

[@Amateur_Pool]

Thank you sir!

[@ClutchCarson]

double hit, for sure, cue ball changed directions off his tip

[@Amateur_Pool]

That's what i thought too

[@user-zw9jy8if9y]

PS Are you going to Derby City?

[@Amateur_Pool]

Didn't get signed up fast enough. 9 ball was already full

[@raelynnclinard]

I'm 1000% the same with having to shoot if i can sense a pool table nearby lol - love the content sir, keep it up! Just wish we were closer so we could run some racks sometime.

[@Amateur_Pool]

Is an addiction, lol

[@raelynnclinard]

@@Amateur_Pooljust got to the point where he doublehit/hopped the cue ball.. i agree, 7's that cant rack honestly or call fouls on themselves shouldnt be playing... I hate that the APA changed the rule on double hit fouls too... only can be called if there is a ref watching and they call it. such BS....

[@garyrathbone4586]

You're right. That was ttw

[@Amateur_Pool]

Yup! Lol

[@gman5051]

Derby city would be a great , who knows Josh ..be confident and get that money !

[@Amateur_Pool]

Oh, I'll definitely give it all i got!

[@chesterwhitworth1168]

for a Klondike bar

[@Amateur_Pool]

Bingo! LOL

[@toddclement4891]

I had an opponent tilt the 8-ball rack so far on me that it was a half of a ball off of straight. I asked for it to be straight and they said I had no right to a perfect rack as long as the first ball is on the spot that was all the rules required. They refused to re-rack and further stated that I was a 6 and they would do whatever they could to beat me.

[@Amateur_Pool]

That sucks! They should have fixed the rack

[@patrickkinsey6568]

I play BCA and it is in the kitchen if on the break.

[@Amateur_Pool]

I may be wrong about it. It's been years since I played BCA. Thanks for the correction!

[@chrisknowles64]

Hey Josh, if you want to try a different league, ACS plays by WPA rules ... I was just about to ask you about him being the trash talker 😂

[@Amateur_Pool]

Thanks

[@tiarnaigh]

Keep posting sir. Enjoying the matches & commentary. Watching your own mistakes and the ‘bad’ matches can be a real learning experience. And above all, keep up the good humour. :-)

[@Amateur_Pool]

For sure! I'll keep posting.. thanks for the support

[@nancyfail160]

YOU KNOW I just started watching your channell. YOU KNOW I thought I would subsribe. YOU KNOW I found it to be very informative. YOU KNOW I am probaly hooked now. Hope you have a great day YOU KNOW. 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@Amateur_Pool]

Lol... sorry about that Nancy.. however, i also appreciate it, ya know! 😆 🤣 😂

[@Amateur_Pool]

Also, wait until you see the short that i just posted (how pool balls are made)... you may unsubscribe, lol 😆 😜

[@randymallett]

Another good one bro, keep it up. RE: posting your losses (and when u play bad)... HA... I'm about to post the worst match I've ever played. It was terrible and I know the commenters are gonna have a field day with it. But oh well... lol. Like you said, can't just post my wins.

[@Amateur_Pool]

True.. if you only post the wins, it's a fake pool channel... that's the way i see it

[@mikeriosrivera9548]

I love your Videos so much and your sense of humor! Please never stop

[@Amateur_Pool]

I have no plans to stop.. i appreciate the kind words!

[@timscott178]

love that you show all matches good and bad - keep it going man great to watch

[@Amateur_Pool]

Thanks, Tim!

[@timscott178]

@@Amateur_Pool and stop with the little timmy :comments hahahah

[@Amateur_Pool]

@@timscott178 lmaooooo... i knew i would eventually get someone named Tim to comment, lol

[@timscott178]

@@Amateur_Pool hahah it makes me laugh every time i hear it - i can't escape that or the southpark Timmeh

[@Amateur_Pool]

@@timscott178 lmaooooo

[@EAGLEYEVidz]

@Amateur_Pool about the drinking and playing pool, I find myself shooting better maybe after drinking about two to three drinks.. Do the video, I wanna see your take on that.. 👍

[@Amateur_Pool]

I did it... editing it now.. hopefully have it posted Sunday or Monday

[@pastorbarnett3049]

That was some pretty lame pool. I liked your commentary. Good job. I’ve played like this plenty of times.

[@Amateur_Pool]

Ya... they can't all be good matches, lol

[@artmaster4645]

well, yes, he makes a ball but moves the seven by accident, but still a loss of turn.......

[@losoj30]

Looked like a double hit to me

[@Amateur_Pool]

Me 2

[@HaveAnother775]

lol...bro your such a maniac on the table...absolute monster! Funny as hell when you miss to see your reaction

[@Amateur_Pool]

lol... it's hard not to get emotional when i'm playing! I love this game!

[@gman5051]

What’s the rule Josh ? When someone makes a foul , does the shooter call it , or the opponent? I mean this can be a tough call . Who’s right Who’s wrong ?

[@Amateur_Pool]

If no spotter was called, it always goes to the shooter. Opponent can ask but, if shooter doesn't own it then there is no foul

[@nightstalkerzthermalhoghun848]

Time stamp 26.04

[@Amateur_Pool]

Ya, he accidently hit it with his stick. I moved it back, per the rules in apa

[@JorgeTorres-tx3rq]

No importa. U were close.

[@Amateur_Pool]

Siii.. gracias, hermano!

[@toddrobertson1398]

lol how do 2 people both hit a lag so bad they are 2 diamonds from the rail and dead even 😂 you couldn’t do that again if you tried

[@Amateur_Pool]

Hold my beer and watch this... lol.. i could hit it that bad again, lol

[@wvwIceMan13wvw]

I was thinking of trying to record some of my matches just for fun.

[@wvwIceMan13wvw]

I know what you mean about posting losses. Im a 7 and I lost to a 4 2-0 in 3 innings, because broke dry and missed the first rack and missed twice the second rack and he was shooting at everything. It happens, I can’t be mad because I beat a 7 the same way back when I was a 4, he is a good 7 and he just didn’t think I could run 4 balls. Problem is we only have 4 7s and a handful of 6s in the division, and some are on the same team so it’s not like I get to play one or the other every week, sometimes it’s one of the other or I just play a low rank and it gets boring.

[@AAAskeet]

Yeah it sucks and a 3 or 4 that are at the high side of their sl is a tough match for us 7s if you don’t have your A game that night

[@wvwIceMan13wvw]

@@AAAskeet that or now you play the same 6s you were playing even that now you have to spot a game. Then you have the super 7s that would be way higher if the SL went more than 7/9.

[@Amateur_Pool]

💯

[@Amateur_Pool]

Especially in 9 ball

[@micktee]

Your fundamentals still need some work

[@Amateur_Pool]

My whole game needs work.. that's why i made this, amateur pool! Appreciate you watching

[@micktee]

One thing that will help your lineup. After you chalk up step back a couple steps. Then step into the line of the shot. Watch the pro's that is what they do

[@trickyshot2002]

I can help you take your game to the next level.

[@Amateur_Pool]

Would love that.. where are you located?

[@trickyshot2002]

@@Amateur_Pool I am in Virginia but we can do it virtually.

[@trickyshot2002]

@@Amateur_Pool I sent you a friend's request on Facebook.

[@Amateur_Pool]

@@trickyshot2002 dm me on FB.. we can figure something out i bet

[@cj-ef1rp]

Importante

[@Amateur_Pool]

Gracis, hermano! 😁

[@cj-ef1rp]

You can also say, “no es importa”, you know? 🤓

[@Amateur_Pool]

@@cj-ef1rp si, yo se! Lol 😆

[@nickg9021]

@@cj-ef1rp LOL at "y' know"

[@jasondavis6942]

Do u work

[@Amateur_Pool]

Worked in mortgages for the last 13yrs... just took an early buyout option 2 months ago so, not working, currently

[@jasondavis6942]

@@Amateur_Pool I hear ya nice

[@cj-ef1rp]

No double hit

[@Amateur_Pool]

It was close..