London Underground Trains on British Railways Lines-1959, 1972, C & D Stocks with BR Class 37+47

[@JJthrashing]

Amazing how small the central line tube trains are in comparison with the 37 next to it , great footage of shunting old stock 👍

[@michaelcampin1464]

Dont i know it at over 6ft 2 it was a real pain unless you could get a seat thats why i used District to Aldgate East then Metropolitan to Great Portland Street. Avoided Oxford Street due to too many Japanese tourists small trains.

[@boltar2003]

Surprisingly heavy for their size however.

[@JBFlytography]

I’ve got photographs of 67 stock on The Forth Bridge from when they went to Rosyth for their refurb in the 90s. Strange sight.

[@geocachingwomble]

You mean they shunted them all the way up to Scotland to refurbish them on the mainline that's incredible

[@trevorchapman6568]

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[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, it must have look a minature train compared to the Forth Bridge!.....

[@captainboing]

as-strange-a-sight is red stock sandwiched between battery locomotives at Kings Cross, emerging from the suburban lines under the hotel and passing the KX refueling point before disappearing into gasworks tunnel. I have 2 photos - a google should turn them up

[@philsam123]

Was this footage around 2005 the D stock refurbishment was around that time I remember The Tube ITV show having a segment on it.

[@newage3]

Fantastic video, brought all the good times flooding back, to start off we had 2 turns on a Sunday morning 03:00 and 04:30 from Didcot to West Ruislip and return, then started working services mid week day time, the guy shouting to the train crew was called Richard and was known to all the Didcot crews he was a bloody nice guy, he used to give us copies of his photos, the trains ran as a class 7 or class 8 with a bucket load of speed restrictions through stations. Happy days.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Thanks for the memories.... In the mid/late 90s i worked the A60s in similar fashion. The TOPS list went on forever! 15mph though all station platforms (A60s are wider than a 37!), 5mph though a couple though.....

[@youtubeaccount734]

I love C stock so much

[@AlfaRomeo128]

I always imagine what would be the most surprising places to see tube stock actually running on service and imaging if tube stock replace all the rolling stock across the whole network and even take over freight trains

[@Busenthusiast43]

Amazing Video the bakerloo line’s last 1959 stock was taken away for scrap and the refurbished 1972 stock had a trip from didcot parkway to Harrow & Wealdstone where they put the train in service on the bakerloo line and plenty of more 72 stocks will come and 59 stocks are withdrawn

[@Busenthusiast43]

But I never seen a refurbished 72 stock in 1999 but cool and funny

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

@@Busenthusiast43 The 72 seen leaving Didcot was filmed in 1992, and the stock had just been refurbished..... so they were certainly in service in 1999....

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

The refurb stock was taken to West Ruislip Underground depot via the connection with BR at West Ruislip. From there they went via the link to the Met, along the Jubilee to Baker Street and onto the Bakerloo Line there..... The last 59 ran on the Bakerloo in May 1989 and was then transferred to the Northern. When they started going for scrap, some were hauled away by train until it was discovered their tyres were too worn. After that they were taken away by road......

[@willhovell9019]

From the days when Metro Cammell Alstrom used to make Underground stock in Britain . Disgrace that TFL have ordered new Piccadilly stock from Siemens Austria , with screwdriver assembly of half of them at Goole

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

In the last 30 years all our manufactoring has been contracted out to overseas..... Clayton is the last British train manufaturer. All other plants here are foreign owned......

[@theimperialist2686]

Great railway video again Soi Buakhao.

[@michaelcampin1464]

You could keep the doors on i believe 1978 District Line stock closed in winter if you held your foot tightly against the door and no one could get in but it kept the carriage warm.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

You could do that to any tube car door if you wanted to.... At terminal stations, on the D Stock, the guard (and later Operator) could close 3 out of the 4 doors on each car to keep the warmth in.....

[@trevormillar1576]

I once saw a Waterloo & City train going east on the District Line @ Bromley, presumably going to the scrapyard..

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

It wouldn't be going for scrap that way. They were craned out at Waterloo and put on lorries and taken away. LT did take at least one car (possibly more), maybe it was that one you saw, heading to Upminster Depot, possibly for an open day?.....

[@EM-yk1dw]

Great footage Soi especially if the 1959 at Harrow and Wealdstone with the old signalling and double sidings. It is a shame that the 1959s never made it to Watford Junction, they had Watford LMR on the blinds.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, it was on the bottom of the blinds, as it was on the 72 stock when they returned from the Northern.

[@david-stewart]

Really excellent footage 👍😊

[@captainboing]

as a kid I remember the "engineers sidings" at West Ruislip doubled up with old red tube stock awaiting whatever came next. Never saw any go though. Those sidings were inthe days when WR had four tracks, two goods sidings where the car park is and a bay platform(!) and were next to the golf course - now gone under the HS2 works there.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

That was the link line from BR to the Underground.... the old red stock, both 1938 tube stock, and CO/CP stock were taken away for scrap that way.....

[@keef71]

great catch @4:40 at North Acton with the 37 + stock going up what remained of the NNML

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, that was a real bonus, pity though a 62 stormed in quite so soon!

[@OlafProt]

Wow have you given this the 4K treatments? Looks great quality at the beginning 4:10 oooh wow clag to the max. Looks like there’s something on fire 😂🎉 5:05 6:22 lovely to hear the sound of these old things!!

[@michaelcampin1464]

I remember being an anorak at Kings Cross way back in 1974 and seeing a battery loco come out of the suburban platforms on the left hand side near Top Shed and dissappear into the lines heading towards Moorgate and Farringdon after transiting the East Coast mainline. M

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

If it came out of Gasworks Tunnel it would have gone past York Road platforms and to Farringdon. There was a connection there to the Circle Line, the battery locos would then haul the stock to Neasden Depot. The reverse would happen to get them back to Drayton Park although they came out of the tunnels on platform 16......

[@michaelcampin1464]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus yes you are probably right. It was a surpise but i saw all 22 (23 with DP1) Deltics. M

[@alantraish3368]

I was lucky enough to get a couple of black snd white pictures of this movement in 1975.

[@TheCyberSalvager]

Back in 2019 I watched some new stock passing through Bicester North, I think they were on their way to Acton. They had a pair of class 20s and match wagons made from converted tankers at both ends.

[@EM-yk1dw]

S stock deliveries, the S7s went to Ruislip and the S8 direct to Neasden as the were too long for the headshunt at Ruislip depot.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, i drove BR trains into & out of West Ruislip, i was amazed at how short that headshunt was........

[@dodgydruid]

Up until recently, there was a 4 car Northern Line set off the main Salisbury-Yeovil Jnc line just before Gillingham, had heard they had been moved.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

IIt could have been used for some sort of emergency services training?.... Ex railway stock is used in this way at times.....

[@22pcirish]

Nice memories of when I was the riding inspector from Toton to Horbury with the old stuff and back to Toton. Also Horbury back to Toton thence to Banbury with the refurbs for the Piccadilly line.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

I did work some Underground moves in the mid/late 90s, A60s going to & from refurb. Mostly just me and a Trainman, don't recall any Inspectors riding with us. Took 37s right into Neasden LUL depot, very hairy on some of those tight curves laid out for Bo-Bo bgies rather than the Co-Co 37s!

[@marksinthehouse1968]

Superb reminds me when you mix HO and OO ,trying to see if it’s a mk 1 1972 unit or a mk2 ,looks great now the 72s on the bakerloo are in need of replacement or a good re paint

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

The train at Didcot was a MkII for the Bakerloo.....

[@marksinthehouse1968]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus many thanks for that ,all the best

[@walthamwalker]

Fantastic

[@mikethecabbie8476]

Anybody else notice the 37 at the start had split headcode box at one end, but not at other?

[@RailwayDan]

I think there were a couple of them running around in the 80's. I remember seeing one at St Blazey shed in 1988.

[@E34Jimmy]

different end were probably for different uses

[@E34Jimmy]

say the split headcode box was for passenger use

[@victorious436]

I would of been the result of accident damage and the subsequent repair done with either headcode boxes removed as in the refurbished 37s or sometimes being rebuilt with a center headcode box one end only.

[@RailwayDan]

@@victorious436Weren't there a couple of peaks with the same set up ? Also due to crash damage.

[@johnyoungieyoung123]

Some serious clag out of the 47 at Didcot.

[@petersmith4455]

lack of maintenace on the power unit !

[@andrewwilson6240]

Sometimes they are as smoky today. I recently saw a 66 pulling away from being checked at a signal at Leamington spa station. I thought it was on fire!

[@cidertom5140]

@@petersmith4455 usually grade of fuel poor engine timing,turbo lag,blocked injectors or blocked air filters are usually suspects on diesels.

[@dodgydruid]

My late father when at Wimbledon A box always called the LT stock "silly trains" but they were paid a little stipend from LT for handling LT stock there so he claimed.

[@tuckwatsellers]

And yet the A stock was the widest in the country.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

That's very true..... i used to haul them to & from Neasden over the Chiltern line (going for refurb) and they were around 6 inces wide than a 37 diesel on both sides! No wonder they could seat 5 a side on them, an S Stock is no substitute......

[@vincitveritas3872]

What's second man on 47 shouting?

[@walthamwalker]

I'm a womble

[@JJthrashing]

I also noticed that driver didn’t seem happy about someone filming maybe they were on the track…

[@johnbuoy1401]

3:22 seems to be going on still?

[@Andrewjg_89]

I have been on the C-Stock, A-Stock and D-Stock. Before they were replaced by the S7 Stocks tube stocks for the Circle, Hammersmith and City and District Lines. And the S8 Stocks for the Metropolitan Line.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

I found it funny to see the D Stock withdrawn, i remember them new! And the flared bodyside R & CO/CP stocks the D's replaced..... happy days!

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

It varies from 1992 up to around the 2005/06 period.....

[@dennisyoung4631]

That first locomotive sounds like it has an engine you can *feel.* (Much like Amtrak’s P42s.)

[@jazzygeofferz]

Those old diesels used to have a nice bit of grunt to them. You get a good thrash out of a 37.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, 37s could indeed shake the platforms.... i have known them set off car alarms in station car parks!.....

[@dennisyoung4631]

I've never been close to a "37." I *have* been close to an Amtrak P42, while boarding the Coast Starlight headed south to Los Angeles from Portland. I felt as much as heard its engine.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

the P42s only know quiet when they were idling at stations, the second the engines were ready to move they roar to life!

[@Planefan1000]

Why is there a van coupled behind the old Tube cars?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Partly for brake force (Underground stock has reduced braking capacity without electrical power) and because of the differential in coupling height between tube stock and main line BR stock. The vans had different couples at each end....

[@articeddie5494]

Are most tube trains delivered by road now ?

[@petersmith4455]

no !

[@andrewwilson6240]

We see them regularly in Derby taking them to and from litchurch lane works, normally composed as Class20:class20:buffer wagon:tube train:buffer wagon:class20:class20. The buffer wagons are oil tank vehicles for assistance with braking.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

The 2009 stock for the Victoria Line was but normally it arrives via West Ruislip Depot where there is a connection to the Main Line.

[@rhodrage]

What's the reason for the tube stock being sandwiched between two freight vans?

[@TheAlien1974]

Brake force

[@johnbradshaw7525]

Is is also to do with the tube stock having different couplings to those on the Class 37 & 47 locos?

[@johnpowell5433]

Often referred to as Match Wagons. As John Bradshaw says, they have in this instance a standard coupling at one end and a much lower tube coupling at the other.

[@johnbradshaw7525]

@@johnpowell5433 I've seen redundant oil tankers & old coaching stock used as barrier wagons when new rolling stock is being moved around the rail network.

[@oludotunjohnshowemimo434]

No third and 4th electric rails, hence why the diesel is pulling it.

[@petersmith4455]

hi, great video, and good memories of working for London Transport.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Thank you.....

[@oludotunjohnshowemimo434]

The refurbished 1972 stock train being hauled, was it a MKI or MKII?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

MkII Bakerloo stock.....

[@oforid2227]

it's funny looking at the 1972 stock then compared to now being the oldest remaining underground trains in service and very run down 😂

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Funny how history repeats itself, back in the early 1980s the Bakerloo was the same, the oldest stock and a run down line.....

[@oforid2227]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus wow 😂 it's a never ending cycle

[@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp]

Cool stuff

[@TrainsAndBusesAroundNELondon25]

The railway next to North Acton is now disused i think

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, the link to the east at Old Oak Common West Junction is now blocked off permanently. The line from Greenford East Junction is just a long siding now.....

[@MrZlodeus]

The driver of the Class 47 is obviously not happy about having his train photographed, judging by his angry shouts at the trainspotters at Didcot Parkway. BTW, is "Blue Circle Cement" actually the *name* of 47210? If it is, it's crazy. I thought locos are supposed to be named after famous people or places.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

It was the Trainman calling out the window, not the driver (drivers sit in the left hand seat) and to a staff member not the enthusiasts. And yes, BCC is the loco name. Being a freight sector loco, they gained names after the companies BR hauled traffic for.

[@LuisBodnari]

What year is this?

[@dieseldave3879]

4:08 Steam engine disguised as a Class 47, cough, cough! 👍

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, think that one was a long time out of works.....

[@TransporterTony]

Lovely

[@vincitveritas3872]

Claaaaggg!

[@anthonycastallano9075]

It's sad to see this....takes ya back to better days"....

[@bretwaldablahblahblah3578]

are you named after a street in Pattaya?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes! I wanted a quirky name, and as i've had some good times along the 'Cow i though that would do.... better than using Soi 6 i think.....

[@bretwaldablahblahblah3578]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus eee hee and good stuff, pattaya is a fun destination.

[@sussextrainspotter328]

Cool video

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Thank you.....

[@k.z.p.e1210]

Sad they gonna scrap the trains, I like them

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Well, the 59 was for scrap but the ones at Didcot & North Acton were on their way back from refurbishment and are still running on the Bakerloo Line today......

[@johneisen6341]

Time capsule 👌😀

[@danbus180]

How sexy did that engine sound pulling away

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

If you mean 37 065, then yes, that driver is a thrash monster! He does appear in other uploads of mine like here kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHaZpXmNp9B_mdE

[@MrStark-up6fi]

No one’s gonna talk about the fact you can share your videos with the internet back in the 90s like this video proves?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

When i filmed this i did so because it was what i wanted to film for myself. I never imagined they could be seen by people worldwide who would also enjoy them....... how technology marches on!

[@MrStark-up6fi]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus pretty amazing

[@S1lverArr0w]

Year of the video??

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

This is a compilation video. The Didcot & North Acton are 1992 & 1994, the 59 Stock was 1987, West Ruislip was 1999 while Gunnersbury & Wimbledon was 2006.....

[@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I was on the Central Line in 94 as a guard/motorman. That could have been me working that train at North Acton!! Slim chance though so highly unlikely

[@stevem.1853]

Lt doesn't seem as interested in preserving old rolling stock as they used to. I hope they save single unit of 1972 or 1973 stock. Maybe attitudes have changed since they became tfl.....?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Attitudes have changed but not for the better...... Funding will be a big issue for decades to come (you can't shut the country down for a yaer and not expect consequences) and preserving rolling stock won't even figure in their plans......

[@stevem.1853]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus as I suspected. In NYC, some cars were preserved by private groups, even though they remained on transit authority property. I don't know if that happens any more. In these tough economic times, even a heritage railway might not have enough funds to preserve a set...👎

[@jamesgrey6217]

Back in the good old days before are once grate country went to the dogs.

[@downs9724]

Vary grate times day were two bad we kart stop time.

[@Trainspotter4002]

Great video new sub

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Thank you.... As well as plenty more vintage vids to upload, there is a large back catalogue to peruse.....

[@Trainspotter4002]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus cool

[@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of]

IV ALWAYS THOUGH A FITTING USE FOR OLD TUBE CARS SHOULD TO BE USED A BUS SHELTERS

[@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH

[@harryelliott4310]

Tube Stock

[@cidertom5140]

We also see a peeved train driver.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

I think that was the Trainman, the driver sits in the left hand seat.....

[@j.a.sfunker6895]

I didn't think they were the same gauge😯

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, the London Underground is standard gauge of 4ft 8 1/2 inches. It's how Undeground trains run over BR lines to Richmond, Wimbledon and Harrow & Wealdsone, plus Chiltern trains over the Met Line to Amersham.....

[@LuisBodnari]

I think 1990s

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Mostly 1990s and very early 2000s....

[@cannadineboxill-harris2983]

I wanted to know why don’t they dig a tunnel and do an extension for the main line Train so they extend the unused abandoned underground stations. Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock and remix and make them all together and also redesign them overhead line and also make them into 5 cars per unit and also having 2 Disabled Toilets on those 5 cars per unit A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXC, Gardner 6LXB And Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 7-Speed Voith Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into a 11 car per unit so it could have less doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers. A Stock Trains and also having 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it more bigger and extend it to bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Train tunnel into an High Speed train. The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Train line to make it 8 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. then put the modernised 11 car per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbish 11 cars per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 37 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project that is OK for London Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden Easily. Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly line and also build a brand-new underground train stations so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street and also make another brand new tunnel train stations in Chingford and could they extend the DLR. All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, 106, will be replaced by all of the Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel five carriages to disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extend doing roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains. Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the extended 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and they can order Every 17 Octagon and Hexagon shape LNER diagram and unique small no.11 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 117MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 117MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 16 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!, oh can you make all of those Coal Boxes’s 16 Tonnes for all of the 117 MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!! so Please make sure that the Builders can do as they are Told!! And Please do something about these very important Professional ideas Please Prime Minister of England, Prime Minister of Sweden, Prime Minister of Germany, Prime Minister of Italy, Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😅😅😀😀😀😀😀😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😉😅😉😅😅😀😅😀😀😅😉😅😀😅😅😉😅😀😀👏👏👏👏😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😅😅😀😀😀😀😀😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😉😅😉😅😅😀😅😀😀😅😉😅😀😅😅😉😅😀😀👏👏👏👏😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😅😅😀😀😀😀😀😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😉😅😉😅😅😀😅😀😀😅😉😅😀😅😅😉😅😀😀👏👏👏😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😅😅😀😀😀😀😀😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😉😅😉😅😅😀😅😀😀😅😉😅😀😅😅😉😅😀😀👏👏👏👏😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😅😅😀😀😀😀😀😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😉😅😉😅😅😀😅😀😀😅😉😅😀😅😅😉😅😀😀👏👏👏👏

[@West_Coast_Mainline]

Lol

[@marvincarlsen2701]

What junk.