TENET (2020) ILLUSTRATED TIMELINE & EXPLANATION

[@clarissanavarro2762]

On first viewing it "seems" less complex although VERY confusing. After you Know what is actually happening, and who all the players actuslly are... ( if you know, then you know )... it becomes less complicated to understand, but even MORE beautiful. Definitely a film that rewards repeated viewing.

[@tykjenffs]

Just like Inception begins with a Dream within a Dream, Tenet begins with a Temporal Pincer ^ And the movie's timeline is just a snapshot of the past. We the audience are merely observing it. Its not really the present. The present is obviously the future, from where Neil has come from :)

[@cristianpereyra6912]

​@@brontosa5351to my knowledge, she was going forward the whole time. The mask is there for her use within the blue room, which has inverted air

[@fineilldoit]

​@@cristianpereyra6912That is correct. That is why you need to suit up before leaving the blue room.

[@a.demifemiflapo5795]

​@@tykjenffsHow is it that I had no trouble understanding Inception? The plot is one thing, it's the entire concept of "entropy" and "inverted" that throws a person off. Like a car driving backwards next to your forward driving car lmaoo I still followed the plot though

[@J_McPhearsom]

I think it’s one of few movies ever made so specifically for repeat viewings. Like, the “you need to experience/feel it” dialogue from the scientist is a direct instruction from Nolan to audience on how to get through their first viewing/experience. Only now realizing now how he never intended the movie to be understandable by a single viewing - and how that’s one reason why he was so pissed HBO wanted to release it exclusively on streaming (he was banking on repeat viewings, like with Inception, but more) The more I think about it, and have seen it, the more conceptually groundbreaking I think this movie is. From perspective of an engineer, also with degrees in math, who’s had years of study devoted to entropy itself (Thermodynamics), complex time-domain systems/functions/physics (Control of Systems & Vibrations) and now focused on multivariate time-series data analysis - I feel like this movie touches on some of the most mind-bending aspects of science & math, and how limited we are at understanding them, but all the true measurements of actions, reactions, transfer of forces, cause/effect seem to behave in their own time domain, relativistically shifted, super fast, compared to how our own human minds perceive time, and thus cause and effect. There is a level of detail and granularity you get to in a specific field, science, math, or idea, when things “realign” or “echo” and realize the small-picture spirals back around to the big-picture in an infinite or Fibonacci like loop.

[@chris51911]

This is by far the best explanation of Tenet I have found. Great job!!

[@LondonCityGirl]

Ah amazing! Glad you liked the video 😁

[@saddreams3449]

DAMN, I just understood that Niel sacrificed himself for the protagonist and that he knew him all along! Thanks for explaining, you're so smart!

[@J_McPhearsom]

I think it’s one of few movies ever made so specifically for repeat viewings. Like, the “you need to experience/feel it” dialogue from the scientist is a direct instruction from Nolan to audience on how to get through their first viewing/experience. Only now realizing now how he never intended the movie to be understandable by a single viewing - and how that’s one reason why he was so pissed HBO wanted to release it exclusively on streaming (he was banking on repeat viewings, like with Inception, but more) The more I think about it, and have seen it, the more conceptually groundbreaking I think this movie is. From perspective of an engineer, also with degrees in math, who’s had years of study devoted to entropy itself (Thermodynamics), complex time-domain systems/functions/physics (Control of Systems & Vibrations) and now focused on multivariate time-series data analysis - I feel like this movie touches on some of the most mind-bending aspects of science & math, and how limited we are at understanding them, but all the true measurements of actions, reactions, transfer of forces, cause/effect seem to behave in their own time domain, relativistically shifted, super fast, compared to how our own human minds perceive time, and thus cause and effect. There is a level of detail and granularity you get to in a specific field, science, math, or idea, when things “realign” or “echo” and realize the small-picture spirals back around to the big-picture in an infinite or Fibonacci like loop.

[@julienossola]

Reminds me of Evangelion, in some kind of way.

[@StruffyTheClown]

SHE IS BAAACK 😭

[@LondonCityGirl]

Yes I am!! 😁

[@dastoryteller8472]

Was gonna say the same thing ☺️😁...

[@ithugauniverse2941]

😭

[@TheROC13]

This is someone in the future after this video was published, coming back to this video to tell you I'm going to see Tenet in the near future for a second time and this video was the ONE video that helped me to understand what I saw a couple years ago and will see again 🤣 thank you!

[@Sallylunn22]

This was the exact video I was waiting for since August 2020. Tenet reviewed by London City Girl.. Finally, thank you.. thank you ⭐🌟✨ Cant wait to watch the further videos

[@LondonCityGirl]

Thanks for the support! And I hope you like the video! 😁😁

[@Sallylunn22]

@@LondonCityGirl ofcourse and.. as always the voice too ☺️

[@curtiscovino]

This is the best explanation ive come across

[@Sophiliatea]

Great explanation as always! More people need to see this

[@dastoryteller8472]

I'm glad I finally subscribed to your channel..I love your videos.. there's no background music which sometimes can be distracting and you narrate in such a way that it immerses we the viewer..keep it up 👍...

[@LondonCityGirl]

I’m with you - I really don’t like background music in videos, too distracting for me! 🤪

[@oozeman23]

Best & most comprehensible explanation of Tenet on KZbin ! Well done ! 🤓👍

[@JRTJunk]

So happy to see this. I take every opportunity to suggest your channel whenever these movies come up in discussion.

[@LondonCityGirl]

Thank you for the support! That’s such a great comment to read! 😁

[@sergemd84]

Me encantan tus reseñas, me encanta tu trabajo, lo que hiciste con la pelicula "Primer" fue increible . Y ahora con "Tenet", eres la mejor!

[@LondonCityGirl]

Ah amazing and thank you for your kind words! 😁

[@paulcooper1046]

This is the best TENET explanation video I've seen. Cheers, LondonCityGirl!...☀

[@LondonCityGirl]

Ah that’s AMAZING to read! Thank you! 😁😁

[@renegonzalez6058]

u are so the best... ur content is some of my favourite things in the internet, as i'm such a fan of the things u break down, and no one does it like u do... ur seriously the best gurl!

[@happyface455]

I remember your primer breakdown. That friggin film baffled me til you explained it. Im watching your breakdown of tenet on my tv now. Thank you very much lol 😂

[@LondonCityGirl]

Thank you for watching and I hope you find the video helpful! 😁

[@azred256]

Finally some GOOD KZbin content!

[@ShooterQ]

Glad to see you still active, been with you since Primer.

[@LondonCityGirl]

Wow, that’s a long time! And yes, very much still active - just have to balance a lot between personal, work and KZbin life 😁

[@MlleVB]

Okay I finally found the one The one video i need to understand TENET

[@iceman8425]

Glad that you're back!!!

[@fazjab]

Was waiting for more videos.

[@LondonCityGirl]

For the rest of the year I’ll be publishing 1 long form video and 3 shorts a month 😁

[@fazjab]

@@LondonCityGirl wow looking forward to them👍

[@elaztic]

BEST EXPLANATION!

[@WakandaSykes]

Your understanding of storytelling is fascinating. You should write a screenplay of your own!

[@LondonCityGirl]

Ah that’s such a nice comment, thank you and I’m glad you liked the video! 😁

[@ajlomax603]

Yay. Good to see you back. Love your videos ♥️

[@LondonCityGirl]

Thank you! 😁

[@sichard.rimmons]

This is excellent, great work!

[@stevekasan3105]

Bravo you nailed it perfectly.

[@kireeti1120]

Waited real long for this explanation ❤️ Thanks for doing it 💆

[@jukaa1012]

Hell yeah, forgot about your awsome channel and this amazing movie, can't wait to watch it when I get home

[@LondonCityGirl]

Fantastic 😁 I hope you enjoy it!

[@al5068]

OMG what would we do without your explanations!! 😱

[@EnglishDreadnought]

At LAST. A commentator who actually considers and analyses specific pieces of the movie and the relationships between them, instead of just making vague blanket statements. Why are you so much smarter than other youtubers?

[@asifsiddique7900]

I was waiting for this video for a very long time, thanks for the great explanation. Can you please make the explanation video on Synchronicity movie or Westworld TV series.

[@LondonCityGirl]

Thanks for the suggestions and I’m actually going to ask my subscribers what they’ll like to see on the channel when it comes to film / TV reviews via a community post. I’d prefer film suggestions because as a one woman band the production length is already quite long on my videos 😁 Please feel free to leave any other suggestions you may have!

[@carlosjr.aguilar2648]

This is perfectly not confusing.

[@hamedmanoochehri5136]

I Haven't seen the movie. I'm just here to support the channel. I shall watch Tenet and come back.

[@LondonCityGirl]

Ah thanks Hamed! That’s such a nice comment and I hope you enjoy the film - it’s a good one! 😁

[@aidancunningham2052]

At @9.20 the reason they invert is to stabilise the radiation caused by being shot with an inverted bullet, which takes approx 5 days. At @12.34, the bullet doesn't leave the gun, hit Neil and then go back into the gun. From Volkovs perspective he shoots a bullet and the Neil comes back to life, from inverted Neil's perspective, the bullet will have formed moments before in the Neil's head and when Volkov pulls the trigger it will be 'sucked' out of Neil's head and back into the gun, killing Neil. This is mentioned in the movie elsewhere about the 'winds of entropy'.

[@GoharioFTW]

ohh I was confused as to why Kat needed to hide and could suddenly go back to living normally. If you think about it, after getting shot, she basicaly just keeps going back in time till vietnam, which is where she turns into her free self

[@jeffreylebowski7459]

Tenet 2 was amazing. I can’t wait until it gets made!

[@jethompsn]

Been with you ever since Primer and Donnie Darko and loved you ever since! I know you probably are very busy, but as a recommendation/request for your next video: could you do the movie Flashback (2020)? It stars Dylan O’Brien, with vibes of Donnie Darko and such that I think definitely need explaining. Anyways, great video as always and I look forward to whatever you put out next!

[@LondonCityGirl]

Thanks so much for the support, it’s much appreciated 😊 Brilliant, thanks for the suggestion, I’ve noted it down and will be doing a community post soon asking for requests. As I am only able to produce a small number of videos per year it would be good to ensure I’m creating what subscribers want to see! 😁

[@DavidOakesMusic]

@@LondonCityGirl When I watched the Darko video the opening shot is the trampoline. It wasn't mentioned but physicists often use a trampoline to explain spacetime and a weight on it like a black hole will distort and stretch spacetime like a heavy object on a trampoline. Donnie is jumping on a trampoline therefore acting as the heavy weight on spacetime... of course this is just my thinking out loud ofc. :) x

[@adp023]

Thanks for this video! I've seen the film 3 times and thought I finally had a good hold on the plot. But, seeing two Sators go back into each turnstile simultaneously when the calvary arrives and neither of them come out at the other ends blew my mind. I didn't realize that during my viewings! They disappeared and went back into the past? Now I'm really confused. Also, after seeing this video, I realized a character's death (Sator & Neil) may NOT be their final death because there is most likely other versions of them moving forwards and backwards in time?

[@-RimuruTempest]

for your first question.. from third person perspective he goes to past thats why it looks like he disappeared and when inverted TP goes back to past we can see sator. for your second question.. sator and neil is died in past and they will contine this loop.

[@-RimuruTempest]

@@brontosa5351 I agree. Me too has a lot of confusion in the beginning. But once you understand the concept of inversion you can enjoy the film. I am really fascinated by Nolan film making. Such an intriguing concept. Still I don't understand the car chase scene though

[@GodMcQueen]

*Thank you, so much!*

[@ayemous]

u have a soothing voice 👍

[@rorrt]

Well explained.. I think even after a first viewing I got a grasp on the big jumps in time and inverting and stuff.. But because Nolan puts such emphasis on exposition dumps, those scenes when the audio mix with the background sound and dialogue sound goes out of balance, man alive was frustrating.. I got when Pattison was casing the airport with the music taking over was deliberate.. But scenes like the one they're sailing.. I didn't miss anything at all, but it didn't feel like that in the cinema..

[@DavidOakesMusic]

Almost as if you need to ....go back and watch it again a few times! I'm not being cynical either. The theme of TENET is life must be lived forwards but understood in hindsight. That's why there are multiple scenes which make more sense the second time they happen in the film.

[@rorrt]

@@DavidOakesMusic That wouldn't have helped.. The only thing that would have helped, was subtitles at home.. I know it's the new fangled way voices and stuff is balanced. It's just annoying at times.

[@johnromero1537]

Great video

[@AI-mg3hy]

This is helping me understand things a bit better, thank you. One thing I'm still confused about is how an inverted Sator was able to go back to Vietnam on holiday and breath like everyone else. Am I confusing myself here or missing something?

[@LondonCityGirl]

At that point, on the boat, he and Kat have both reverted back and are moving in the forward timeline again 😁

[@StruffyTheClown]

Basically, he inverted back in time until (for example) 1 day before the holidays, then hoped into a timestil to revert back into normal time so he could spend a "normal" holiday :)

[@worsel555]

Been bugging me since I saw this movie and I have not seen anyone address this (maybe in the next video?): at 2:56 with the inverted bullet flying back into the gun that inverted Neil had shot, you can see that the Protagonist had been injured on his left shoulder and then healed by the bullet. Watching closely up until the Protagonist goes for the last bomb and sees the inverted bullet hole, he does not have a wound on his left shoulder. Maybe a continuity error, maybe something that got cut or was forgot about as I am sure the editors probably went out of their minds cutting the film together.

[@LondonCityGirl]

Interesting! I’m going to have to rewatch that scene again! 😁

[@jackbedient]

It’s not there because the whole idea of inversion doesn’t make since at all. The inverted bullet has to injure first before it can heal. Meaning that the inverted bullet has to move Forward first to be implanted into the window. So the object (bullet) just sits in the window waiting to move Backward? Was it incorporated into the glass upon the window’s manufacture? Was it shot there by an inverted Sator who knew this scuffle was coming? If so how did he shoot it into the window when inverted objects only move backward. It’s silly, really. Nevertheless, a great flick to ponder over…

[@DavidOakesMusic]

I don't think NEIL is inverted at the Opera Siege. But just his ammunition / and / or gun since - when the bullet flies into his gun - he runs away FORWARDS. I don't think it's a mistake as they used pre-vis for every scene to make sure everything added up - even if in their minds they were 100% sure they were right...

[@The86Ripper]

All hail our movie explaining savor 👑

[@julienossola]

Loved your videos, they are mindblowing. I still dont get the versions of the characters... Neil 3? Whatttttt. I also doesnt understand some things. Why they needed to explode the building in 2 timelines?

[@RoundheadRecords]

Would you clarify for me - - - loved your first video on Tenet. Have you make the others that goes through the end of the movie? I have treated this movie as a mind puzzle. I got some parts after watching a couple of times but nothing like your 1st video - I would really like to capture all your videos start to finish, starting where you left off with video 1 where it was revealed that Neil who really was - which is a wow moment. What I learned from you and I really had no idea and it was cooking my noodle is that there are versions of each person who goes through the turnstile. Keeps me up now trying to understand how they came back as one and merged with Neil, Kat and others. Please update me on here if you do not mind. In my spare time I love putting this huge puzzle in place which is hard. I thank you and subscribed. Very interested in knowing a couple of things - your ending on video to the end and to understand more how three people - let's say Neil keep it together having different journeys - and yet coming back. Last your thoughts on how Neil knows they will meet again - surely there will be a movie 2. Ohh please - thanks so much - please post so I can find it. I am trying now to figure out how on here I can find your answer on here - I imagine under subscription ----- loved this - - - really did - - -

[@slovakthrowback3738]

> Keeps me up now trying to understand how they came back as one and merged with Neil, Kat and others People never merge, it's that they simply change state of forwards/backwards entropy. For example, the moview follows the Protagonist's point of view, we see it from his perspective and he changes entropy several times, but he never merges. If we were to keep following him, we would see him grow older, recruiting Niel, and setting up the whole Tenet operation. We can do the same with any character that changes entropy, but the movie unfortunately does not give us all the answers as to how everything is set up.

[@peterburrows1702]

Having loved your explanation video on Primer, I have to ask. Which of the two time travel storylines do you prefer? Whilst doing the research for these videos, did either of them reveal previously unknown storylines to you? And finally, can you think of any other time travel movies you would like to make videos about? from the past, present or future! ;) Keep up the excellent videos!

[@LondonCityGirl]

Ooh that’s a great question. Primer was definitely harder to unravel and took me 8 watches, Tenet was slightly easier because once you understand the 3 main set pieces the rest sort of falls into place. I loved both films for different reasons 😁 I’m currently having a brainstorm to think about what other films I’d like to analyse and review so if there’s anything you’d like to see then please do share 😁

[@peterburrows1702]

@@LondonCityGirl off the top of my head I'd say Looper and 12 monkeys could be interesting films to analyse in a video. And although not a film, the novel Hyperion by Dan Simmons has fantastic concepts (although not time travel) that would be fascinating video content if you're at all familiar with the book(s). Ditto Cixin Liu's Three body problem books, from a physics/space travel point of view. p.s. Primer is IMO the definitive time travel film

[@BlooSilva67]

​@@LondonCityGirl memento should be on the list

[@LondonCityGirl]

@@BlooSilva67 OK, I’ll add it to the list as I’ve been toying with the idea of doing a video on Memento for a while 😁

[@LondonCityGirl]

@@peterburrows1702 thank you, appreciate you taking the time to send all these suggestions my way 😁

[@AlchemicalForge91]

You're here!!

[@sauravneogi7024]

Explain the clockwork orange too

[@worsel555]

Psychopath gets arrested and to get am early release he agrees to take part in a medical experiment that conditions him to react with revulsion and physical pain when exposed to any form of violence, just as Pavalov did with dogs and feeding them but causing them to salivate when a bell was rung. Beethoven was playing and it became an accidental trigger just like the bell. He gets released, gets confronted by his old crew and then tries to kill himself to escape the intentional trigger by one of his victims. Surviving the attempt the scientists realize they are super screwed and he gets set up with a cushy job to stay quiet, but the scientists didn't realize that he was now "cured" and violence or the music didn't trigger him anymore. There ya go.

[@sascha148]

12:35 the bullet is not getting reverted after it hits the "dead soldier". There is no such possibility in tenet. Rather volkovs gun was allready an inverted one which led him to "unshoot" the dead soldier. The question is: why held Volkov an inverted gun in his hand? Well, because the movie's plot has to exist.

[@GG-zv9ku]

best review

[@paulcooper1046]

What's the status of the three videos referenced at the end of this video?

[@LondonCityGirl]

Two are already published and there is a Tenet playlist linked in the description with them all grouped in one place. The third and final explanation video will be published next week.

[@paulcooper1046]

@@LondonCityGirl Merci, LondonCityGirl! Cheers...☀

[@GriFFonRec4]

You can 100% change the future in this world, but it's not necessarily easy. You have to fight against the "inverted" present to change the future which is why people tend to avoid themselves while inverting, hence the fight scene at the air port. Niel is a pro at inversion theory which is why he's able to easy affect the future. To open a door in normal time you have to close it in inverted time, which is why he times it perfectly while inverted (also why he isn't doing anything to help them during that short wait). I think Niel's position in the story is as an anchor for the protagonist to change the future, like he's the true hidden hero changing things while the protagonist is as good as Sator when it comes to following the timeline (He thinks he's doing something but in the end they are the same, puppets to the future). The protagonist is just a front, not the actual leader of Tenet. Just like 007 isn't the leader of MI6, instead it's M (think back to Priya's introduction). Remember where Nolan got his inspiration from and what kind of movie this is supposed to be. Also, I'm not too sure Niel is Max. He'd have to invert for like a decade at least. Time travel isn't like other movies where you go back in time in a matter of seconds. If you want to travel 10 years in the past, you have to spend 10 years doing it and you age 10 years. That said, they definitely have a relationship after the mission so Niel the whole movie is 100% from a future past the end of the movie, I'm just not too sure it's Max. At the end of the day each "mission" is heavily obscured with the purpose of hiding it from the future on both sides. That's the whole point of the movie. It's like super spies where if you don't lie well enough a future bad guy with all the information will win without you even knowing. We see a few missions happen and a few confrontations between the factions and how elaborate all the scheming can get (from 1 side), now you have to remember the other side is also constantly doing the same thing and you see why the war is never ending.

[@katjak4290]

So how will P1 join P2? Or are they supposed to co-exist forever?

[@dastoryteller8472]

Please can you do a video on The Neon Demon starring Elle Fanning..I find it very interesting on so many levels..first it talks about the loss of innocence and what befalls an individual after losing that innocence.. Secondly it also talks about the lengths people will go to for fame..money and power...

[@PadreDePato]

Multiple neils at the battle, makes mote sense now 👍🏼

[@Mortizul]

Thanks!

[@uhrtmyfillins951]

OK I’m gonna need to watch this a few more times but let me ask you what is this more complicated than primer ?

[@russellwarren9595]

what would happen if you went through the red side of the turnstyle twice?

[@joer1402]

Brilliant!

[@marcux83]

nooo. I'm not ready yet. need to watch first 😥

[@LondonCityGirl]

Haha yep, definitely watch it first and come back to this to unravel the puzzle! 😁

[@marcux83]

will do 😇

[@badazga4507]

How do we find out that prya is a member of tenet? I always wondered why she helps him dispote beeing an arms dealer

[@tamararocks7016]

I'm a lay person when it comes to science, so please forgive me in advance :), but I have a speculation that I'd love feedback on. I see that most people believe that Max and Neil are the same person but I haven't seen a really convincing explanation (though I may have missed it) about how they can be vastly different ages at the same "time". Since Neil is basically a person who is passionate about having faith (like Morpheus in the Matrix) perhaps he entered some type of Null Entropy container (I think they had something like this in Dune) that was then reversed and put on a 15-20 year timer so the whole container (which aligns with the shipping container concept) moves back in time but he himself doesn't (maybe he's given a needle to sleep that aligns with the needle he gave Kat and the Inception type of needles). This way he can wake up in the past and still be the same older age while Max is a boy.

[@westmcgee9320]

I don’t think the protagonist saw himself in the Saab. I know the visual suggests that he’s looking directly at himself but later moments in the film do not supper this idea. Remember, he was shocked when the 9th piece of the algorithm jumped out of the back of the vehicle. It doesn’t make 100% sense either way but the overall perspective of his actions makes it clear that he had no idea he was getting into a car with the algorithm already in it.

[@MfishProductions]

Let’s go!! 🔁🚢🖼️🛩️🚒

[@LondonCityGirl]

Best use of emojis I’ve ever seen in a comment 👏👏👏

[@mrfudge2861]

It’s crazy how I understood that

[@yeastboyuk]

one of the smartest films in recent history

[@Lamont865]

Amazing film

[@UATU.]

This is a wonderful explanation, but I think I still need educational puppets to get a basic grasp.

[@frenchcoupon3391]

Primer (a 99% perfect time travel movie and a an absolute masterpiece) serves a direct inspiration for Nolan. I’me pretty sure about it. Tenet is a visual masterpiece. And a quasi narrative masterpiece. Quasi, because Nolan never instills the inverting mechanics with enough mystery, wow factor and detailed or suggested lore. Also, the mechanics have no twist or expansion- just another canvas. Not like in the Prestige, where he did a marvelous job in those departments. Only the scene with the first turnstile and the highway scene have this amazing qualities. Other than that, the Wachowski sisters, Spielberg, Scott (Tony and Ridley) and Cameron did it better in their movies.

[@purnakumbhar3951]

Did you watch CW's The Flash? It has multiple time travels and timelines. It would be great if you make a video essay on that

[@davidjesusmunizlanderos8422]

Cant wait TENET 2

[@brianegendorf2023]

The thing that doesn't make sense to me is the actual movement backward through inverted time. I mean, if you want to go one year into the past, don't you have to literally live an inverted year to get there? You'd still be aging. You would be 29 by time you got back to your target year. And is there a way to get back to your original time faster? Cause otherwise, you are stuck in the past, and now have to live in a new timeline..part of which will overlap with your original time line. I mean, imagine doing this over a ten or twenty year period?

[@mikeyygriffin]

I think anyone using this time-inversion thing would have to have a specific goal and exit strategy in place before hand, otherwise they won't just die from being unable to breath

[@LondonCityGirl]

It’s a commitment for sure!

[@Celatra]

from what i understand, inverting de-ages you.

[@sascha148]

3:25 that statement is wrong. The whole idea of the movie is that everything happens as it supposed to happen "what's happened, happened". There is no way to behave differently by getting some information. Everything will happen exactly as it happened.

[@keremgursoy866]

Nice

[@LondonCityGirl]

Thanks 😁

[@BlooSilva67]

Is she back or is she forward from coming back? 🤯

[@Bootmahoy88]

Beware of night time fishing with the wiggle-men.

[@windowbreezes]

Did Katherine get shot twice in the Turnstile? 1- by Oxygen Mask Sator 2-Red side Sator If so then her screams is so much painful

[@superkowz]

Here's the clip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGKximyQpLCbiM0 I'm still not sure on this one, but I think she is only shot once with an inverted round.

[@Iggystar71]

My IQ level isn’t high enough for me to understand this movie. I’ve tried. I give up. It’s not you, it’s me.

[@craigharris41]

This isn't hard. Simply put...what the Audience is seeing already happened 2 weeks prior. The most important part is the dinner that he had with Sir Micheal.

[@Celatra]

yep and the movie ends where it began and vice versa.

[@danbeaudet6718]

My head hurts.

[@ReadyAimFire_]

Now make inverted version of this movie 😆

[@travissaxon5184]

I wish Denzel was in this

[@Funnysterste]

Imagine you were about to have a boxing match against an inverted boxer. If you were the winner by KO, your opponent would be laying unconscious on the canvas when you enter the ring and before you landed a single blow. Why would you step up to him in order to give him the hit that, in his point of view, knocked him out? Why would you be forced by some laws of nature to step up to him and punch him the moment the "stands up" (reverse falls over)? From your point of view the "final blow" would heal your opponent as does every subsequent blow. Each time you hit him, his face would be less bloody and less swollen until to the point when he is totally fit and fresh and knocks you out.

[@LondonCityGirl]

Very descriptive, you really painted that scenario out well 😁

[@Funnysterste]

​@@LondonCityGirl So it was accurate? But that would mean that cause and effect would be all messed up. You would not be able to plan ahead. Lets imagine a gun fight instead. If you were the victor, your opponent would be already dead when you enter the scene. He would have a bullet hole between his eyes but you have not fired a single shot yet. The magazine of your gun is still full. But you have to shoot that corpse in order to make it happen. But why would you want to do that? You would have to aim exactly between the eyes of a dead man. For what? Shooting at him would reverse the shot and revive him. But how is that even possible if your bullet wasn't turned? It would just put another hole into a dead body. Or am I confusing things? In the movie, all the fights between a turned and a normal person had no real consequences. Nobody was killed or even hurt. The fights were just meaningless brawls without an outcome until one of the fighters managed to escape.

[@Funnysterste]

@@obscuretenet But what if neither I nor my gun and bullets are inverted - only the opponent and his equipment is inverted? Me entering the room, he is dead on the ground because I had shot him. But I had not. Why would my bullet leave his body and enter my gun? Why would I even want to shoot at a dead body?

[@Celatra]

the point is that no matter what, the scenes from both sides will play out exactly in the same way every time. the movie assumes determinism. so it's not a question of "why would you do that" because there is no why, it simply will happen.@@Funnysterste

[@Funnysterste]

@@Celatra But the "why would you do that?" ist what determines their actions.

[@Raze9110]

ive finally understood that im fucking stupid, still can't manage to get my head around the turnstile thingy ;___;

[@LondonCityGirl]

😂 I'm sure you're not stupid and it takes a while to get your head round how the turnstile works!

[@gooseduarte2758]

When the inverted protagonist gets in the Saab, why doesn’t he grab the algorithm? He put it there, he should know it is in the Saab. That has always bothered me, it’s the biggest plot hole

[@Celatra]

because that would mess up the timeline.

[@perfectionbox]

A person traveling backwards in time wouldn't see anything because photons would be traveling backwards from his eyes to their light sources, but I'll forgive it for the sake of an otherwise cool movie

[@Nerdzombiedisco]

I'm pretty clever. But this movie makes my brain shut down from the demands it puts on my linear mind.

[@_tony_1084]

That’s a extremely confusing film you have to watch several times to get the idea of this

[@davidkargol5364]

I like movies.

[@Dancingontgesun1942]

F this 🤷🏽‍♂️. I figured out the Matrix in 5 minutes, this poop show is ridiculous lol , great explanation, sub'd

[@7Svmurai]

My brain isn't braining

[@Street.Hermit]

right!? Some janitor at the opera house long before the assault: “Blyat! Does anyone see all these bullet holes?!?”

[@RBweb24]

I still don't know what's going on in the movie...

[@asifsial04]

Our man intentionally ignored 🇵🇰 indie music, in fact called Bohemia an Indian artist.

[@bb6640]

Oh. Ok.

[@BananaJoe12345]

Great Explanation but I still don't really get it. Even Primal didn't give me that much of a problem 😅

[@LondonCityGirl]

It’s hard to get it all on one watch, especially if you’ve not watched the film recently. It’s a puzzle of a film for sure!

[@Shooketh__]

Max cannot be Neil because The Protagonist met adult Neil in Mumbai. If Neil was reversed there, why does he not have a mask on? Plus Max is alive the day Neil dies?

[@curtiscovino]

In chronological order of the Protagonist, Protagonist 1 meets Neil in Mumbai for his perceived first time. Neil and P1 are both moving forward in time however because Neil has inverted previously from the future where he already knows P3, this meeting occurs in different times of both their lives as they perceive it. After the events of Stalsk-12, We can assume Protagonist 3 somewhere in the future forms a relationship with Max (neil), creates Tenet and recruits Max who is a grown up Neil to go back in time, save Protagonist 1 at the Kiev Siege which sets the plot of the movie. Because the future humans have created an algorithm that can manipulate time and space, they create a paradox that wouldn’t typically exist in normal space-time so you need to think of the movie as events occurring simultaneously back and forth in a 4D space-time

[@moecoop420]

Primer has nothing on this

[@sanitizerwilson1599]

thanks can you please how the Sator killed himself reset the world!!! these parts how reset the Earth?

[@bluepieouo]

I’m in 🫡