Andrew O'Hagan: why Craig Wright's Satoshi Nakamoto proof failed

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London Review of Books (LRB)

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Күн бұрын

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@Saxgod
@Saxgod 11 ай бұрын
He’s never proven he wrote the white paper. If he did he could access the genesis btc wallet. He has TO THIS DAY never accessed the wallet. He is NOT Satoshi. He might have come in after but either way he didn’t create it. Also Vitalik and others have taken what Satoshi has done and made something better. Btc is old. But he still hasn’t proven he could get into the Genesis wallet. He’s a liar who’s trying to build a business claiming someone’s name who’s probably dead.
@matthewmorgan9269
@matthewmorgan9269 Ай бұрын
Ok, let's start looking for a dead cryptographer who Craig Wright knew. If Craig is lying so extensively, then he must be sure the real Satoshi is not going to reappear.
@NoName-cx3gk
@NoName-cx3gk 20 күн бұрын
​@@matthewmorgan9269Or he is sure that the real Satoshi never will go public like Nick
@plexasm3623
@plexasm3623 7 жыл бұрын
The real satoshi was a very paranoid individual. The last thing he wanted was media attention nor his name to be known.
@thelordsday311
@thelordsday311 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't you seen Craig Wright? He's paranoid as they come! He clearly has personality issues when dealing with people in the real world, so it shows that he's better off if he stays away from human contact. He has that geeky side of him, that makes it difficult to communicate with others, especially when no one believes him, even though he is Satoshi Nakamoto.
@frodobaggins7469
@frodobaggins7469 5 жыл бұрын
It fits craig perfectly
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 5 жыл бұрын
@@thelordsday311 He seems to do a lot of interviews, lectures and socializing so maybe you're "projecting" since you don't know the difference between being "anti-social" and being "paranoid" but are psychoanalyzing a stranger you clearly haven't "seen" much of.
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 5 жыл бұрын
Its hilarious how none of you Craig Wright "skeptics" with your supposed high IQs and giant "smartest person in the room" egos so utterly out of proportion to your narrow little minds don't "get" that as a PSEUDONYM - which according to you geniuses who still don't know the real "identity" of was ALWAYS known to BE A PSUEDONYM used by some supposed anti-social "hermit" - "Satoshi Nakamoto" NEVER EXISTED IN "REAL LIFE" AND THAT BY NEVER ONCE SAYING "I AM SATOSHI NAKAMOTO" - WHICH WOULD BE A LIE ANYBODY SMARTER THAN...YOU "GENIUSES" STILL CLAIMING THE SAME THING AND THAT "CRAIG WRIGHT ISN'T SATOSHI NAKAMOTO" WHICH IS OBVIOUS AS F#CK TO EVERYONE YOU'RE TRYING TO "CONVINCE" - CRAIG WRIGHT MADE YOUR OPINIONS AND CLAIMS AND BIAS AND OBSESSION WITH SOMETHING THAT ULTIMATELY "DOESN'T MATTER" NULL AND VOID SIMPLY BY SAYING EXACTLY WHAT THE ACTUAL HUMAN "CREATOR" OF BIITCOIN WOULD SAY INSTEAD OF "I AM SATOSHI NAKAMOTO" WHEN FINALLY "GOING PUBLIC", WHICH IS "I CREATED BITCOIN". NO SHIT CRAIG WRIGHT ISN'T SATOSHI NAKAMOTO. NOBODY "IS" BECAUSE NOBODY EVER "WAS". MARK TWAIN NEVER WROTE A SINGLE WORD, POOR RICHARD NEVER PUBLISHED A SINGLE ALMANAC AND SATOSHI NAKAMOTO NEVER CREATED BITCOIN BECAUSE NONE OF THEM EVER EXISTED ANYWHERE BUT "ON PAPER" AND IN PEOPLE'S IMAGINATIONS. BUT AT LEAST YOU'RE RIGHT BY ACCIDENT. AND YOU CAN THANK "NOT SATOSHI NAKAMOTO" CRAIG WRIGHT FOR BEING SMART ENOUGH TO ARRANGE FOR EVEN HIS BRAINDEAD "DENIERS" TO BE "RIGHT" AS THEY ARGUE WITH AND DENY SOMETHING HE NEVER SAID.
@simonjohnston9488
@simonjohnston9488 5 жыл бұрын
@@deeremeyer1749 Fair amount of fairly obvious, and extremely angry - projection going on here. You ok, hon? Life getting you down?
@MarkT
@MarkT 3 жыл бұрын
Whereabouts in this video is the ' why Craig Wright's Satoshi Nakamoto proof failed'?
@bobdobb9017
@bobdobb9017 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. Craig’s proof video came out after the Australian IRS was negotiating with him, and trying to squeeze him for more than he owed, so he was forced to, and naturally had stress due to it. But I also saw one of Craig’s talks after his proof and he has the same “stressful” attitude, it’s simply Wright’s demeanor. This ridiculous camera man is posing as a human behavior specialist, and does a very poor job. There is a lot of vapor reporting like this video.
@cincinnatijack3173
@cincinnatijack3173 6 жыл бұрын
Let me see if I can put this in a nutshell...what?
@Lewythefly
@Lewythefly 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of 'feelings' from this presenter. What about proof? I'd say the fact that Craig has been able to create BSV which from all reports absolutely smashes Ethereum is proof that he is insanely capable and probably smarter than he appears in interview
@TehTechExpert
@TehTechExpert 4 жыл бұрын
Some of the addresses he claimed to be his even signed messages saying he is a fraud lmfao.
@dionbridger5944
@dionbridger5944 3 жыл бұрын
@@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC So what, Satoshi Nakamoto was just handing out his own wallet keys to random people? Give me a break.
@dionbridger5944
@dionbridger5944 3 жыл бұрын
@@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC Yeah not buying it. Keeping your private cryptography keys secure is not that hard.
@sharpvidtube
@sharpvidtube 3 жыл бұрын
@@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC The real SN would never be that sloppy, so this, as well as many other red flags, rules out Craig Wright for me. Just look how many times he blames other people, saying they hacked him. For a computer security expert, he has zero knowledge of computer security. Hope it all comes out in court soon.
@loveisraeljesusfirst2272
@loveisraeljesusfirst2272 3 жыл бұрын
@@sharpvidtube this comment didn't age well...who won the court case?
@bahmak2003
@bahmak2003 3 жыл бұрын
@@loveisraeljesusfirst2272 lol you really is an idiot!😂😂😂 Did the court case proved Craig is satoshi?😂😂
@TimJSwan
@TimJSwan 2 жыл бұрын
This always happens when people try to determine truth from asbergers people. They think the question, "Are you Satoshi?" is simple. If you created a separate identity which is not you, then technically you are not that identity, so of course you have to process the question to think about what is actually being asked. Yet, when I ask people why plurality voting works better than Condorcet voting, they don't know how to answer even though it is simple math. That's because people suck at simple things like math and they are great at paying attention to complex undependable information like 2,000 movements on someone's face when they are talking.
@nauxsi
@nauxsi 7 жыл бұрын
The whole point of bitcoin was that we no longer have to trust in Satoshi or hold him up as some figurehead. The network verifies trust between people. Yet people are obsessed by the person and missing the message.
@SuperNinjaBK1
@SuperNinjaBK1 6 жыл бұрын
@mikelujanable
@mikelujanable 6 жыл бұрын
The reason people want to know is the same reasons they ignore him. If he created bitcoin then we are lucky enough to find out whats next. An alive satoshi gets more done. I think people are afraid of things they don't understand.
@shivankbatra5643
@shivankbatra5643 6 жыл бұрын
He has got i million bitcoin!!!thats why
@dietcokeheadd
@dietcokeheadd 5 жыл бұрын
Because the secrecy and mystery surrounding Satoshi strengthens arguments from governments and regulators that associate Bitcoin and cryptocurrency with criminal and black market transactions
@エクススラーヴ
@エクススラーヴ 5 жыл бұрын
Yeh no. Satoshi 'wanted' you to think that he's not important. Problem with that is that anyone who has the power to move the market is a hidden hand of power.
@ShemBoothSpain
@ShemBoothSpain 4 жыл бұрын
Craig wright explained how bitcoin can be turing complete. no one got it,
@ryanshaw4250
@ryanshaw4250 3 жыл бұрын
among a bunch of other things which BSV can do that no other cryptos can do. proof is in the pudding
@moosesnWoop
@moosesnWoop 6 ай бұрын
that's a big one. They laughed at him too.
@benz500r
@benz500r 3 жыл бұрын
He is SN. He was put on the spot so he responded and as always in situations like that, some people didn't like it. The speaker makes huge assumptions and assumptions are a source of screw-ups.
@KidVolcano
@KidVolcano 7 ай бұрын
not "the" Satoshi Nakamoto, as courts (and soon criminal courts) have determined.
@sarahbak5606
@sarahbak5606 3 жыл бұрын
I have been trading for about 6 months now and just about every trade backfires and slaps me in my face. Nearly impossible for me to catch more than a few points . I try to do top down analysis but it doesn't work for me . I say to myself, clearly I'm in the 90% that lose money, so I open a demo account, do my analysis, then take the opposite of what I would normally take and get the same result. I'm starting to feel hopeless, any advice for a struggling trader?
@johnsonjordan5117
@johnsonjordan5117 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t give up. Trading takes time(months, even years) to master, even the pros learn everyday. Never the less, if you lose money no matter which side you take, maybe you need to look at how you are managing active trades rather than how you are entering them. My advice, find a mentor . And also, try incorporating the use of oscillators, Bollinger and pivot points into your strategy. And most importantly move to higher TFs(4h or 1D preferably), you'll thank me later> .
@andrewtroy509
@andrewtroy509 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnsonjordan5117 You're correct, I don't lose money every single trade, but my main problem is trying to let my runners run. Very rarely do I catch big moves . Instead they go a few pips in my direction, then go against me if when I try holding them. Also my entries could use a lot of improvement. A mentor would be amazing, but getting one is easier said than done. If it's not too much to ask, do you know any legit ones?
@sarahbak5606
@sarahbak5606 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnsonjordan5117 Can you recommended any broker/ mentor ?
@krollbrian1360
@krollbrian1360 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarahbak5606 Success depends on the actions or steps you take to achieve it. Show me a man without investment and I I’ll tell you how long it takes to go bankrupt. Investing creates a safe haven for the future. With the right investment choice that has at least a 2% minimum risk and with advice an expert, profits and interest are 100% guaranteed. That why I choose to build my portfolio with the Help of my broker Expert Mighty (Mightyprominers on Instagram).
@johnsonjordan5117
@johnsonjordan5117 3 жыл бұрын
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@simonjohnston9488
@simonjohnston9488 5 жыл бұрын
Wright's excuses at the Kleiman trial in Florida were amazing in their comically sad hilarity. Typical conman: thinks he's smarter than everyone else, so lacks the self-awareness to realize he's walked himself into a trap.
@Kavillon
@Kavillon 3 жыл бұрын
How did that trial go in the end?
@BBH101
@BBH101 3 жыл бұрын
Craig still owes 100 million, plus interest. And, no, it is not money given to himself. He is such a conman! Pretty good conman, given the people who have been taken. Right now, Craig is afraid of the upcoming COPA trial given his manic posting on slack.
@dinomytegv
@dinomytegv Жыл бұрын
Less than a month away and more and more evidence is supporting Craig m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooC7nmWugbyJgJo
@beachricki
@beachricki Жыл бұрын
I believe Craig is the creator of Bitcoin. There is much evidence already revealed and more coming to show who the master-mind really was and is behind the bitcoin project. Show me another individual that has one tenth the depth of knowledge, drive, conviction let alone the countless patents on blockchain. Even if he wasn't Satoshi, look at the specs, performance and future of BSV and ask yourself why would it matter?
@Gutek.1
@Gutek.1 Жыл бұрын
Wystarczy porównać BTC i BSV i wszystko jasne kto jest Satoshi i jeszcze jedno on to zrobił w krótszym czasie niż BTC
@josephcafariello365
@josephcafariello365 2 жыл бұрын
Something doesn't make sense about Craig Wright claiming to be Satoshi. We know that Satoshi went out of his way to keep himself anonymous. If Craig Wright really is Satoshi, why does he now all of a sudden want everyone to know who he is? It just doesn't make sense. Here's what I think the real story is. Craig was part of a team of people who called themselves "Satoshi Nakamoto". There is no Satoshi as an individual. It's the name of the group. One by one, all the members of this group die from various causes. The last one remaining from this group is Craig. Now that all the other people who have knowledge that Satoshi is the name of their group are dead, Craig is free to proclaim himself as Satoshi, without anyone from the original group around to challenge him.
@Treewalker11
@Treewalker11 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't seem that bothered about it really. He is mainly interested in BSV and scaling these days.
@LexlutherVII
@LexlutherVII Жыл бұрын
He did not create bitcoin nor is Satoshi, if Satoshi is a group then who was behind the Gmails and chat????
@BSVMaximus
@BSVMaximus Жыл бұрын
He was outed in 2024 by Wired magazine and from that moment the attack on his person started claiming he is Faketoshi. Since that outing he has been on aa crusade to proof that he is SN. the COPA v Wright trial which commences on 2/5/24 will proof that he is or isn't Satoshi. I firmly believe he is SN.
@rokfam
@rokfam 6 жыл бұрын
Satoshi is a smart person, someone with a sense of humor and vision - someone whose ideas naturally brought others with similar intellect, together. CW is the opposite of that, by his own admission, whenever he speaks, he insults and causes division. It would bea great surprise to discover he is the same person as SN
@mikedemike5393
@mikedemike5393 5 жыл бұрын
SATOSHI WAS MEASURED GUARDED RESPONSES...
@frodobaggins7469
@frodobaggins7469 5 жыл бұрын
Everybody got their own satoshi, my satoshi is a geeky ass programmer who name is greg and lives with his mother, the real satoshi cannot be a human nonononono.
@grandtheftbitcoin
@grandtheftbitcoin 3 жыл бұрын
but I think he's funny and really knowledgable...
@bcaominh
@bcaominh 3 жыл бұрын
People with aspergers can be really funny. Just not personable.
@mikebassett9195
@mikebassett9195 3 жыл бұрын
@@frodobaggins7469 it's 100% american gov, it's that simple.
@robertdewees9418
@robertdewees9418 2 жыл бұрын
3 different judges in 3 countries have now called Faketoshi a liar.
@Zuffenhouse
@Zuffenhouse 7 жыл бұрын
Andrew O’Hagan is a great narrator and storyteller. English language black belt.
@Michael-im4rs
@Michael-im4rs 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, too bad he doesn’t understand proof beyond reasonable doubt as Gavin did.
@エクススラーヴ
@エクススラーヴ 5 жыл бұрын
Shame he's a fantasist really. Turns out that it was his insistence on a media proof package wth PR that fucked Craig up so much. Dickhead.
@trashbat7331
@trashbat7331 4 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-im4rs Gavin was likely duped somehow. If Craig wanted to prove he was satoshi he could do it for everyone to see, but strangely enough he can't. Whenever Craig is asked to do something he just comes up with an elaborate story why he can't hence the whole tulip trust bs.
@rashadstevenson8192
@rashadstevenson8192 3 жыл бұрын
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@market-equity8495
@market-equity8495 11 ай бұрын
Andrew O'Hagan : "Earth is flat"
@ryanbutler4432
@ryanbutler4432 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't it possible that addressing questions about whether or not a person is Satoshi could be difficult to answer, even if they WERE satoshi?
@grantproctor7111
@grantproctor7111 5 жыл бұрын
Certainly. Craig has grown every year in relation to his ability to handle the camera.
@jolantasokalska4201
@jolantasokalska4201 11 ай бұрын
Genius is a Genius. Whatever name you use 😅😅❤❤
@cleozimar
@cleozimar 7 жыл бұрын
Compare how he expresses himself with the original white paper. He certainly did not write it. Could he have participated in its development? That also appears unlikely given that he doesn't share Satoshi's motivations and generosity.
@irudoramas
@irudoramas 7 жыл бұрын
He wants to bring bitcoin to all of mankind, unlike bcore developpers who want it to be a store of value only for the wealthy.
@Scalia-ig6qz
@Scalia-ig6qz 5 жыл бұрын
BSV is the king of all crypto by functionality? You've never seen the Ferrari of Cypto until you checked out BSV, until you understand that, and acknowledge that ....you really have nothing to say??
@RIPxBlackHawk
@RIPxBlackHawk 3 жыл бұрын
The level of over thinking this dude is displaying is Olympic
@Zaucey24
@Zaucey24 11 ай бұрын
10:18 Andrew O’Hagan “we are all Satoshi” - enough said
@SwishaMane420
@SwishaMane420 5 жыл бұрын
Like Vitalik said... "Signal theory"
@VanquishAudio
@VanquishAudio 5 жыл бұрын
SwishaMane420 vitalik is a little shit
@trashbat7331
@trashbat7331 4 жыл бұрын
@@VanquishAudio And Craig Wright is a big shit.
@crypastesomemore8348
@crypastesomemore8348 4 жыл бұрын
Vitalik is a moron- signal theory does not readily apply to complex human social interaction. That aside, Wright is a fraud and def not Satoshi.
@ryanshaw4250
@ryanshaw4250 3 жыл бұрын
vitalik has been just around the corner from progress since 2017.. BSV works.. even without the proofs, why are we even debating Vitalik.. he is a loser who calls craig a fraud then blows another year of deadlines meanwhile BSV can handle 50,000 transactions per second on chain. proof is in the pudding.
@SwishaMane420
@SwishaMane420 3 жыл бұрын
@@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC I pity a fool.
@Mikewee777
@Mikewee777 2 жыл бұрын
A British person could be a total idiot but that accent would convince me that they knew what they were talking about. Hollywood has us brainwashed .
@nicholascarver1
@nicholascarver1 5 жыл бұрын
The dewd just spoke out of both sides of his mouth. 4:08 Typical journalism.
@simonjohnston9488
@simonjohnston9488 5 жыл бұрын
You apparently don't know what journalism is. Or that journalists are allowed to have opinions. Did you read his work, or does engaging with actual journalism too hard for you? But sure, if someone says something you don't like, obviously they're a part of the MSM Illuminati.
@rafejennings6667
@rafejennings6667 7 жыл бұрын
If I was Satoshi, and the world found out who I was, it would be an incredibly smart move to pretend to be a con artist / fraudster
@Barney-ii1no
@Barney-ii1no 7 жыл бұрын
what if he was pretending to pretend he was Satoshi Nakamoto, lets not pretend to know
@taylorj6177
@taylorj6177 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best places to hide is in plain site.
@alexocasio-gomez5267
@alexocasio-gomez5267 6 жыл бұрын
So you will invest in any obvious scammer because the real one would have pretended to be a scammer?
@blackswan8651
@blackswan8651 6 жыл бұрын
How would the world find out? Oh yeah.. Be Craig and tell them.. Satoshi is sitting on a shit tone of btc.. Craig is not.. Hence his own fork.. Same with judas.. They both quite clearly where removed from a project for egotistical and sociopathic reason.. And I also bet they have both never meet satoshi.. when working on the project.
@blackswan8651
@blackswan8651 6 жыл бұрын
@@taylorj6177 Yeah... Tell that to the Elephants and Rhinos.
@polkhigh4touchdowns
@polkhigh4touchdowns 3 жыл бұрын
There´s not even a close 2nd when it comes to knowledge of this space, law, cryptography and most importantly economics and math. Not 1 person in BTC or ETH who comes close. It´s great how much Craig being SN hurts so many of you. You deserve it for cancelling your hero when he turned out to be not what you hoped for. Your problem not his.
@saaah707
@saaah707 3 жыл бұрын
Not even a close second? That's a little bit dramatic.
@412pgh2
@412pgh2 3 жыл бұрын
half the shit he says is wrong and you just have no idea enough to point it out.
@flashkraft
@flashkraft 4 жыл бұрын
Craig Wright: Yeah I invented that Bitcoin thing with the wallets and codes and coins and stuff. You know...or how ever it works.
@WizardOGF
@WizardOGF 4 жыл бұрын
@@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC is correct. This is the guy.
@samuelbarrett1082
@samuelbarrett1082 3 жыл бұрын
Whether you believe CW is SN or not, it's obvious you've never seen the multitudes of interviews that exist here on KZbin. He's at the very least a genius with an extremely in depth knowledge of how cryptocurrency works and is developed. The only person I've heard speak with as much knowledge about crypto is Charles hodgkinson, who founded Carano. Not even Viltalik
@KevinR820
@KevinR820 7 жыл бұрын
The guy speaking in this video literally says straight up that Craig proved it to him privately. But that he failed to carry it out publicly. End of debate.
@alexgarnock8814
@alexgarnock8814 7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Rands your right he did say that. Plus Gavin vouched for him
@VanquishAudio
@VanquishAudio 7 жыл бұрын
I did catch that.. this interview is going over my head.. is this guy saying Craig is satoshi or not?
@mungojelly
@mungojelly 7 жыл бұрын
that's what it means to be satoshi is to refuse to be satoshi, he could have signed the whitepaper craig wright in the first place, it's a gift to us for us to take responsibility for
@tandysolomon8285
@tandysolomon8285 6 жыл бұрын
The answer to that question is more clear if you read O'Hagan's essay, which is almost book-length and absolutely riveting, but I would say Satoshi was a construct created by Wright along with two other people, both of whom are now dead.
@Cryptoversity
@Cryptoversity 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Kleiman is the most likely single person who is Satoshi; he fits the bill from a personality perspective (not selfish or narcissistic; honest, smart, selfless and benevolent)........and the 3,000,000 wallet has never been touched......and Craig sure as shit doesn't have access to them.
@TheSpiritOfTheTimes
@TheSpiritOfTheTimes 8 жыл бұрын
Is O'Hagan's story worth reading if I don't really care who Satoshi really is?
@lulub.9635
@lulub.9635 8 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Andrew O'Hagan is always worth reading.
@lulub.9635
@lulub.9635 8 жыл бұрын
And you will educate yourself.
@Capricosm
@Capricosm 7 жыл бұрын
Craig has reluctance to admit he is Satoshi because by doing so he will have a massive capital gains tax debt to the Australian Tax Office due him selling his Satoshi bitcoins.
@trashbat7331
@trashbat7331 4 жыл бұрын
Craig is doing all he can to try convince people and prove he's satoshi, but are you saying Craig is trying to commit tax fraud? You only have to pay taxes once you sell the coins but this isn't what he's worried about. He won't ever sell these coins because he doesn't have access to them.
@brutusmaximus5380
@brutusmaximus5380 11 ай бұрын
Here's what most of your normies and maybe Craig Wright don't understand about the legal definition of "Person". A person can be more than one individual. With that in mind, the courts may treat the name Satoshi Nakamoto as an express trust where Craig Wright is the Grantor and the Developers the trustees. In an express trust, there isn't a written contract. The contract is implied. The trustees have legal ownership of the name while Craig Wright may claim Grantor/Beneficiary privileges in a court of competent jurisdiction. What Craig Wright needs to do is find his keys. That's his proof.
@Gimli1732
@Gimli1732 9 ай бұрын
The identity satoshi nakamoto was created so that Craig could distance himself from BTC in case it failed. It could still fail. It is to protect himself legally
@NixonRexzile-xz4sq
@NixonRexzile-xz4sq 7 жыл бұрын
DON'T BE STUPID!!! If he can't give you 1 of millionth of a penny worth from the first blockchain then he is obviously not satoshi nakamoto. Show it public and well believe you!
@alexocasio-gomez5267
@alexocasio-gomez5267 6 жыл бұрын
@Hrvoje Batrnek There is no evidence that he has any of those things.
@ginrummy3996
@ginrummy3996 3 жыл бұрын
This is more so closely related to a mythomania phenomenon.
@dsm5d723
@dsm5d723 5 жыл бұрын
Ted Nelson's explanation of Satoshi is more convincing. As a free thinking innovator, Ted understands the Revolutionary Mind. Sadly, the revolution is caught up in its own value, and so cannot compute a structure for de-individuated value. Imagine an algorithm for human valuation; there is no possible way for its writer NOT to pre-suppose their own value in the outcome. This is Cryptocurrency: only those with enough unenlightened faith in the religion shall prosper by its spread. Now that the Government in the US is putting tax markers on the "unregulated, decentralized" economy of math, we'll see how the Libertarian Digital Phenotype evolves. Suspicion: this is how bad faith actors in our society are monetizing bad behavior and weaponizing it politically, with no trace. Look for a repetition of the patterns of ISIS social media marketing, and then Anti-Vax. Renee DiResta did not consider a dark profit motive for spreading behavior and disinformation strategically. Imagine trying to track campaign finance through crypto.
@ChiefEngineeringOfficer
@ChiefEngineeringOfficer 6 жыл бұрын
I dont understand so did he prove it or not?
@Carbonkraft
@Carbonkraft 5 жыл бұрын
yes
@rynorider245
@rynorider245 5 жыл бұрын
Carbonkraft umm no wtf! That shit show with Gavin has been debunked
@simonjohnston9488
@simonjohnston9488 5 жыл бұрын
Very much no he did not. He proved that he worked on it with others - something nobody has disputed. His recent excuses in court are hilarious.
@dinosgura
@dinosgura 5 жыл бұрын
@@simonjohnston9488 Have you been there....??
@above7833
@above7833 3 жыл бұрын
Craig Wright is a fraud...
@totomkdgroup
@totomkdgroup 5 жыл бұрын
I can understand if CSW is SN and behaved this way. I can Imagine the pressure he had after his home was raided, Silk Road, and all the sneaky people in bitcoin, banksters etc.. Satoshi himself saying if you don't get it or believe it, he doesn't have time to explain it. That could also means, Satoshi doesn't care, OR he thinks himself, as not important in bitcoin, as a System. Now Satoshi already gone, and tbh I never seen anyone has such a deep knowledge of bitcoin more than CSW. The so called bitcoin experts, many of them are only entertainer, know nothing about bitcoin. And it's a smart move by CSW to patenting most of bitcoin technology that most people don't understand yet. Now CSW and his company nChain, can comfortably growth the original bitcoin without interference from stupid and greedy people's of OG`s bitcoin. Expect to see big development in BitcoinSV in 2020. Now it doesn't really matter, if CSW is Satoshi Nakamoto or not, but I'd say 🙏 Thank you to Satoshi Nakamoto for creating bitcoin.
@Enrique-et4rr
@Enrique-et4rr 5 жыл бұрын
Toto Pratikto I agree 100%
@sebalutz
@sebalutz 7 жыл бұрын
Andrew O'Hagan obviously wants promote his article. He is right on one thing: It does not matter if CW is Satoshi or not
@bitscomplicated637
@bitscomplicated637 5 жыл бұрын
Craig is Satoshi Nakamoto. He was the prime architect of Bitcoin. Dave Kleiman and David Rees collaborated with him to help bring his idea to life. Outside of that - Both Hal Finney and Ray Dillinger also helped contribute.
@rynorider245
@rynorider245 5 жыл бұрын
Bits Complicated Wrong
@Dstreet1121
@Dstreet1121 5 жыл бұрын
Ryno Rider - Loser
@Scalia-ig6qz
@Scalia-ig6qz 5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY...TWO WERE IN WHEELCHAIRS DYING....SOMEONE DID THE LEG WORK AT THAT TIME! CRAIG WAS THE FIRST MINER AS WELL....HIS TAX RECORDS PROVE THAT.
@simonjohnston9488
@simonjohnston9488 5 жыл бұрын
@@Scalia-ig6qz Coding is clearly only for people who can walk.
@sharpvidtube
@sharpvidtube 5 жыл бұрын
@@Scalia-ig6qz The tax records he talks about haven't been verified. As all the other "evidence" he's produced has fallen apart, why would anyone take his word for it? A judge recently in a Florida court didn't. His evidence was torn to shreds. Why didn't his tax records come up there? The real Satoshi could sign something with the genesis block but he wants to stay anonymous, even though it doesn't take a lot of research to see who he/they most likely are.
@superkmo
@superkmo 6 жыл бұрын
Very well articulated point of view
@antoniobertone7589
@antoniobertone7589 5 жыл бұрын
What?
@chrisadams27
@chrisadams27 2 жыл бұрын
if you don't care, why are you telling people - everything was great until you opened your mouth
@ryanbutler4432
@ryanbutler4432 6 жыл бұрын
An even better question is: Might mathematical proof be undesirable in some cases, and another kind of proof, be adequate in some cases, especially if you want a DEGREE of anonymity?
@farqueueman
@farqueueman Жыл бұрын
lol
@cncrim1
@cncrim1 4 жыл бұрын
Why is it so hard to prove, all you need is send any amount out money from Geniese block to another wallet, Bam done. Move on.
@Quantum_Cola
@Quantum_Cola 10 ай бұрын
@@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC and yet he listed it on exchanges for people to speculate on the BSV price lol
@photogol
@photogol 7 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t understand your point. I feel like your proofs that CW is not Satoshi Nakamoto are weaker than the proofs that CW showed to the BBC.
@TenHanger
@TenHanger 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty pompous and/or ignorant to spend 9 months with Satoshi Nakamoto and come away saying things like "and maybe Craig Wright will get some credit for BitCoin too". It really just shows how awful of a reporter this guy is. His ability to write stories is excellent, but his research is sub-basement level, so he should stick to writing fiction. When he looks back on this, it will be a source of embarrassment for his work, and he will feel shame. Dr. Craig Wright solved the Byzantine General's problem in a way no one even investigated-- using economics and incentives. Everyone else tried to tackle it with code or cryptography. He had "help" in the way a construction foreman doesn't actually hammer every nail when building a skyscraper, but BitCoin is entirely his unique design. Of course it borrows from previous (mostly failed) ideas, but Craig cites some of them in his white paper, and in other places he gives inspirational credit (see BitCoin Doco interview in which he credits a 2005 Triple Entry Accounting paper). His story has been interpreted differently, and accentuated differently, but the story has been the same. He designed and was the fountainhead for Bitcoin, and allowed others to work on it with him. To this very day he still has to push back against those that try to change his invention. Sad. Sad as this reporter's research skills.
@NakedCryptoTrading
@NakedCryptoTrading 11 ай бұрын
Truly he is The Satoshi! He never wanted to be dragged before cameras, but wanted to get involved again because they changed bitcoin to make sure it could be controlled.
@davidcue1
@davidcue1 7 жыл бұрын
Is this a " I am Spartacus" charade? . Maybe there'll be many more
@mikedemike5393
@mikedemike5393 5 жыл бұрын
what people find disconcerting with this man is that he is a honest man who when asked the question are you the one he has trouble assuming the other fours contribution....and it expresses itself...
@sharpvidtube
@sharpvidtube 5 жыл бұрын
You obviously haven't watched some of the videos where Craig claims he did all of it, with a little help from a man that can't tell us if he's lying. He was recently found out in a Florida court, going to be interesting to see how that ends.
@brutusmaximus5380
@brutusmaximus5380 11 ай бұрын
Here's what most of your normies and maybe Craig Wright don't understand about the legal definition of "Person". A person can be more than one individual. With that in mind, the courts may treat the name Satoshi Nakamoto as an express trust where Craig Wright is the Grantor and the Developers the trustees. In an express trust, there isn't a written contract. The contract is implied. The trustees have legal ownership of the name while Craig Wright may claim Grantor/Beneficiary privileges in a court of competent jurisdiction. What Craig Wright needs to do is find his keys.
@nikyabodigital
@nikyabodigital 3 жыл бұрын
Satoshi is a genius and you know a genius when you see one, they do not wear coats and look perfectly groomed (not to stereotype).. they like to be simple
@zigbaligb
@zigbaligb 3 жыл бұрын
What utter bullshit. Your own definition of what you consider a genius to look like is a stereotype in and of itself.
@strangethingshappen
@strangethingshappen Жыл бұрын
Craig Wright always talks this way - ask yourself why BSV is transaction speed outpaces BTC, ETH and all others... ask yourself why BTC is now using BSV tech and ideas... this journalist does not really understand. Shame.
@SMX815
@SMX815 5 жыл бұрын
The individual who invented bitcoin is a legend & they would have wanted to be a enigmatic from conception through to its delivery. The real inventor would never want to reveal themselves in any way shape or form!
@thelordsday311
@thelordsday311 5 жыл бұрын
News sites in Australia actually ran News Articles that claimed Craig Wright was Satoshi Nakamoto, because they were tipped when some anonymous groups online tracked everything "Satoshi Nakamoto" did online. This was well before Craig Wright came out and claimed he was Satoshi Nakamoto. Don't argue with me, I saw it in Australia myself, everyone knew that "Satoshi Nakamoto" was an Australian long before this "Craig Wright" creature came about.
@frodobaggins7469
@frodobaggins7469 5 жыл бұрын
Guess what he did, craig is satoshi, deal with it.
@MK-University
@MK-University 6 жыл бұрын
Soooo would love to hear someone’s point of view on why they think this is really Satoshi. Anyone?
@frodobaggins7469
@frodobaggins7469 5 жыл бұрын
He said that bitcoin was turing complete when nobody else knew it was turing complete.
@trashbat7331
@trashbat7331 4 жыл бұрын
​@TheRidels Craig probably 'leaked' those emails himself, which are all likely fraudulent. He's a master manipulator I'll give him that.
@andrewparker1622
@andrewparker1622 4 жыл бұрын
Barely Socialable did a whole series and at the end pointed to Adam Back
@MindeyI
@MindeyI 3 жыл бұрын
Take-home message: a fact does not have to be on blockchain to be considered important.
@project10bball
@project10bball 6 жыл бұрын
4:04 andrew o'hagan claims that wright showed him privately that he had access to the satoshi encryption keys!!!
@okomfo3857
@okomfo3857 5 жыл бұрын
He was bamboozled. He's no expert and Craig is known for faking keys that anyone with some knowledge can see through the scam.
@RawLu.
@RawLu. 2 жыл бұрын
Adam Back.
@go5582
@go5582 Жыл бұрын
Hi handsome, great video and observation of Dr. Craig Write body language. Thanks
@above7833
@above7833 3 жыл бұрын
He’s a fraud... plain and simple... if Craig looks like a fraud and acts like a fraud, he’s a fraud...
@Al-vw8qt
@Al-vw8qt 3 жыл бұрын
He isn't yr normal narcissist conman. CW is extremely knowledgeable, doesn't take shortcuts, and doesn't say stuff to please people.. quite the polar opposite of a conman who is always willing to please. Very strange and odd guy
@ryanshaw4250
@ryanshaw4250 3 жыл бұрын
i will also add that frauds rarely have the best working tech, vast patents, knows what is next(on chain everything and big blocks), and is fastest, cheapest, secure and auditable.. meanwhile some believe that the "real" bitcoin is low capacity, promoted and marketed by big media/finance, requires financial intermediaries that resemble banks with bank like fees, is NOT immutable on lightning network, does have reversibility, doesn't have on chain data, and is touted as digital gold scarcity as its only major merit.. good talk, see ya in 5 years.
@above7833
@above7833 Жыл бұрын
@@Al-vw8qt very strange and odd fraud !
@Michael-im4rs
@Michael-im4rs 6 жыл бұрын
But he literally signed the satoshis key in front of you and Gavin on a brand new laptop out of the box?
@486dx6
@486dx6 5 жыл бұрын
Do you still hold that opinion?
@johnc5258
@johnc5258 3 жыл бұрын
3:05 does that mean you went in with a biased outcome? Still waiting for the debunking to happen (which I didn't think would take more than 3mins, so far all of it being based on personal interpretation of body language) - hoping for more plausibility to come. *I'm not certain about anything in this mad cryptosphere even though I bought a lot of altcoins, lol
@johnc5258
@johnc5258 3 жыл бұрын
4:08 I don't know... If he didn't have the keys to the satoshi account then people would that's proof that he isn't satoshi. But he shows he has the keys, and people say it's not valid evidence? This video is going on for 4mins, and I'm more sceptical of the sceptics. Seems like the skeptics have more to lose, which I can totally understand. Will carry on watching though
@johnc5258
@johnc5258 3 жыл бұрын
7:00 bro, what are you trying to say? That it's impossible to claim an identity associated with a technology that's meant to hide identities? Long waffle and so far unimpressed with the video's claim of failed proof, when it seems more like a video on "can we really be certain of anything?"
@johnc5258
@johnc5258 3 жыл бұрын
9:30 okay. So this is a nothing video. Bit more of a glamour piece for the journalist
@DobarDabar
@DobarDabar 4 жыл бұрын
Would you rather be rich or hated by society?
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@jolantasokalska4201 11 ай бұрын
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@brisvegas859
@brisvegas859 6 жыл бұрын
Craig Wright is the creator of Bitcoin
@Neavris
@Neavris 8 жыл бұрын
Didn't like this. Too much speculation. That guy seems poorly informed. Bazaar psychology doesn't match well with technological advances.
@tommymikalsen9875
@tommymikalsen9875 4 жыл бұрын
Proof package failed because he lied.
@LexlutherVII
@LexlutherVII Жыл бұрын
lol, exactly 😂
@SATOSHI.-Nakamoto
@SATOSHI.-Nakamoto 2 жыл бұрын
It's very easy to show people who I'm... Obviously this guy is not me.... But if you think I don't have backup or I don't backup my data you got another thing coming.
@johnyj7908
@johnyj7908 7 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked by the fact that average people's IQ is only able to not understand the simple fact that "do not want to sign" != "not able to sign"
@aarontimberlake9195
@aarontimberlake9195 7 жыл бұрын
"The fact that God doesn't show himself doesn't prove he doesn't exist!!" Here we go again. You BCash bagholders are pathetic.
@cheyno237
@cheyno237 7 жыл бұрын
BCash is a SCAM
@ciy19akro7
@ciy19akro7 7 жыл бұрын
It's "do not want to sign", it's actually "gave fake signature" (not to mention the also faked backdated pgp key) which is why it's fraudulent.
@Rysin3
@Rysin3 7 жыл бұрын
Those above - Read the book ffs. It's a great read.
@jhigginbottom
@jhigginbottom 6 жыл бұрын
Bcore segwit tokens seem to be losing all of their value.
@TheUnspokenTarot
@TheUnspokenTarot 7 жыл бұрын
CSW is Satoshi and he shouldn’t be forced to prove anything. There is enough evidence of his involvement in the creation of bitcoin. He is now doing it again with BitcoinCash. BitcoinCash is enough proof Craig is Satoshi.
@uria702
@uria702 6 жыл бұрын
You mean the doctored documents he provided as proof? Or do you mean the fake signature?
@hectordelarocha10
@hectordelarocha10 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Szabo IS Satoshi
@alexocasio-gomez5267
@alexocasio-gomez5267 6 жыл бұрын
What's the point of cryptography if the cryptographers don't use it and instead insist that you believe in them like Jesus? We already have a Jesus.
@alexocasio-gomez5267
@alexocasio-gomez5267 6 жыл бұрын
@@mikelujanable Nobody has the proof. All the proofs he ever offered have been shown to be fake.
@alexocasio-gomez5267
@alexocasio-gomez5267 6 жыл бұрын
@@mikelujanable Yes it does. The creator of bitcoin was a cryptographer and he designed an easy way to prove beyond a doubt that he is Satoshi. Craig can't do that so we have to trust in the testimonies of his believers like how Jesus convinced people he rose from the dead.
@bobdobb9017
@bobdobb9017 10 ай бұрын
This video is junk. It is Craig Wright.
@MDaDonLegacy
@MDaDonLegacy 2 жыл бұрын
Most people that don't want to be famous or known publicly won't keep admitting to such 😂
@xXx-lfg
@xXx-lfg 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly didn't think it would take off the way it did. Now that many have created their own firms and coins and aren't in jail, Satoshi feels left out. Why he's so aggressive about it. I believe it's him, only because he says things nobody in the crypto space ever has. So if he isn't Satoshi, he sure is a visionary and has the qualifications and foresight to improve upon the crypto space.
@justinkonkle1981
@justinkonkle1981 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but Craig Wright is a flake. If he wanted to prove so desperately that he was in fact Satoshi Nakamoto! He would doing it by moving all of the original Bitcoin holdings from 1 wallet to another. Until I see this happen, he is full of it!
@sevensea2440
@sevensea2440 5 жыл бұрын
Story of crypto: A brief summary of crypto in the making. In 2008 2 guys arguing in youtube about world bank and financial crisis. One guy secretly reading their serious conversation. This guy has no youtube account and cant comment at the moment. So he created an account. Satoshi came from a famous game in early 2000. Naka came from a flash of light while his looking up. Moto came from a famous cellphone brand advertisement, "hello Moto". Satoshi said to these 2 guys, "why not create a peer to peer transaction. no need for authority of the banks." Then one of those 2 guys ask what kind of transaction. Satoshi reply in the comment. "like Q and R codes you see when you buy stuff at the store. Bar code that is. Satoshi is not a science genius but a youtube commentator who like to comment about the facts stated. Then it trigger something in these 2 guys. The true pioneer of crypto are those 2 guys, but satoshi is just a commentator. Satoshi just comment because he suffered depression in 2008 when U.S.A declared financial crisis. So satoshi didn't get to finish a degree. Satoshi move from one province to another just to work for 8 months. 3 years passed satoshi noticed bitcoin in the T.V and he said: i will buy it cause i know it has a potential. but sad to think now satoshi did not have any bitcoin. satoshi just finish 2 vocational course. And satoshi want to finish another vocational course but financial problem arises. Blockchain can be used to start a car, or even facial recognition. So if you like this story feel to press the like button below. Thanks.
@lynnehainesful
@lynnehainesful 2 жыл бұрын
It's a fictitious name ....so how can he be satoshi?
@richlounder2465
@richlounder2465 6 ай бұрын
What does Craig gain by faking to be satoshi?? More tv interviews that he hates and what else?
@TerresaOxentenko
@TerresaOxentenko 2 жыл бұрын
He has convinced me he is Satoshi Nakamoto
@grxygxds
@grxygxds 2 жыл бұрын
hahah youre so dumb
@iancassie9840
@iancassie9840 6 жыл бұрын
MAYBE hes covering for other people, i dont really care but i do care what he does in the future. why dont you do an in depth report on JAMIE DIMON AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS??
@Cryptoversity
@Cryptoversity 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Kleiman is the most likely single person who is Satoshi; he fits the bill from a personality perspective (not selfish or narcissistic; honest, smart, selfless and benevolent)........and the 3,000,000 wallet has never been touched......and Craig sure as shit doesn't have access to them.
@Al-vw8qt
@Al-vw8qt 3 жыл бұрын
Craig is not a normal guy so standard body language behaviour analysis don't really apply.
@PauloConstantino167
@PauloConstantino167 3 жыл бұрын
He is Shitoshi Nakamoron
@Purzify
@Purzify 2 жыл бұрын
the founder(s) of bitcoin will never be revealed.
@JJ_FLA
@JJ_FLA Жыл бұрын
This hasn't aged well. These fools have small minds that will never comprehend the high intelligence of CW.
@ougawougajr.4983
@ougawougajr.4983 3 жыл бұрын
Craig actually never claimed that. So what da hack are you talking about?
@justinlugo1661
@justinlugo1661 11 ай бұрын
The real Satoshi would show his wallet
@cyuiyuwyguiyui
@cyuiyuwyguiyui 5 жыл бұрын
Satoshi Nakamoto is not ONE person.Its many..
@athalaparlambang50
@athalaparlambang50 4 жыл бұрын
To say that he is a part of Satoshi Nakamoto, it means he doesn’t want to take credits to himself, he also gives credits to those who also helped him. Great person!
@graceturnstables
@graceturnstables 5 жыл бұрын
Mr O'Hagan is nice to watch in 2019.
@CharlieCave03
@CharlieCave03 2 жыл бұрын
Bunch of BS leading to self promotion- So many words without substance. 100% fiction storytelling
@anjin33
@anjin33 5 жыл бұрын
CSW HATES btc. He's not satoshi.
@WizardOGF
@WizardOGF 4 жыл бұрын
CSW hates BTC because it doesn't follow the design in the whitepaper. He is Satoshi, and this video will age hilariously.
@BestMentalism
@BestMentalism 5 жыл бұрын
Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto and all will be proven eventually
@Snide01
@Snide01 5 жыл бұрын
lol fuk off
@longpong6665
@longpong6665 5 жыл бұрын
I agree...Craig Wright is Satoshi!
@daehy
@daehy 4 жыл бұрын
he is real satoshi.
@2handsomeforlaw
@2handsomeforlaw 7 жыл бұрын
I believe that he is the spokesperson and the face of the group that is Satoshi Nakamoto.
@pithikoulis
@pithikoulis 5 жыл бұрын
If that is true, he could still verify it..
@dinosgura
@dinosgura 5 жыл бұрын
@@pithikoulis why??? He's not dumb... why should he ruins his life, because kids and core segwit hodler doesn't believe at him? Pride is A very poisonous thing, he's Aware of that.
@jabircp
@jabircp 5 жыл бұрын
If he is satoshi, transfer his 1m btc to his own wallet
@astrologizer
@astrologizer 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody has satisfactorily put this guy away regarding his claims. I wish someone would. If he is the creator I want out. Im afraid the story is not over yet tho. Bitcoin will crash if this guy is found to be the creator in London courts.
@bricehutchison
@bricehutchison 2 жыл бұрын
I think your probably partly right If it’s proven that Craig is right then what will become of BTC?
@freestaileriz
@freestaileriz 4 жыл бұрын
that Craig is a diluted lunatic. that's all he is
@avarmauk
@avarmauk 4 жыл бұрын
Deluded. Not diluted
@freestaileriz
@freestaileriz 4 жыл бұрын
@@avarmauk oh yes. Thanks.
@chrissoper442
@chrissoper442 5 жыл бұрын
ALL of us need to stop pretending and stop threatening to sue and argue with each other just be you! Don't let them turn you against each other! Focus on your integrity and ethic bashing and fighting is not working out is it? Hmmm well you don't think that the drama effects the dream? Forgive and don't forget, how are we going to be a global economy? Hmmm well? Or are we not mature enough to be so lucky to be the ones to teach by example! Don't forget that the world is watching 👀all of us! What we do and how we solve problems please don't forget about that! I'm not a financial advisor nor have I ever claimed to be one! I hold nothing but love and respect for all of you and I hope that I have not offended anyone. Believe in you! Believe in what you want about who satoshi is and forgive those who are not who they claim. Because in the future nothing but the dream Will live for ever. You have the option to be the master of your money 💰or you can be the servant of your money 💰. Any choice you make is the right choice because it's your life to live. We have one thing holding us back from total adoption.let's forgive and move on😤😬👫👬👭 I believe we can!
@chrisiden1
@chrisiden1 6 жыл бұрын
people in the know feel its Nick Szabo who is the 'real satoshi'
@frodobaggins7469
@frodobaggins7469 5 жыл бұрын
Nick Szabo didn't know that bitcoin was turing complete, craig wright had to tell him it was turing complete. Nick Szabo doesn't know shit about bitcoin, he isn't satoshi.
@LukeMayernik
@LukeMayernik 5 жыл бұрын
chrisiden However, Nick Szabo isn’t Satoshi.
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