Amtrak's Pennsylvanian: When Business Class is WORSE than Coach!

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@vincent412l7
@vincent412l7 Жыл бұрын
Remember the (discontinued) Three Rivers (NY - Philadelphia - Pittsburgh - Chicago). It might be time to reinstate this train?
@cesarnyc
@cesarnyc Жыл бұрын
I entirely agree, and also with a better timetable between Pittsburgh and Chicago.
@wavesnbikes
@wavesnbikes Жыл бұрын
At least extend a day train from Pittsburgh to Cleveland. Or restore the Broadway Limited thru Canton and Fort Wayne: OG Route over the CF&E into Chicago... Maybe even a Washington-Detroit/Pontiac service via Cleveland and Toledo...
@aridianknight3576
@aridianknight3576 5 ай бұрын
@@vincent412l7 with the new HSR Corridor program it might be simpler than ever and just connect Pittsburgh to Cleveland or Columbus. We could even see a NY-> Scranton -> Akron -> Cleveland 🤷‍♂️
@MirzaAhmed89
@MirzaAhmed89 2 ай бұрын
No
@davidburrow5895
@davidburrow5895 Жыл бұрын
I've traveled in business class on the Pennsylvanian before, and I actually preferred it to coach because it was much quieter and less crowded than coach. It's really not worth paying a premium, though. Like you, I prefer the 2 - 1 configuration found in business class on Midwestern trains. I think Amtrak needs to be clearer with their branding and tell passengers exactly what they will get when purchasing different types of tickets.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
I don't remember if the business class coach was any less crowded than coach, as the coach I chose at the beginning of the video didn't have many people to begin with, but I think it was a fair bit quieter as the people who were in business class understood that it was supposed to be a quiet (or at the very least quieter) coach. I definitely agree that Amtrak needs to be more clear about what passengers get from Business class on long distance trains, because had I known what I would actually be paying for ahead of time, I'm not sure I would have chosen business class at all.
@christopherpearman3422
@christopherpearman3422 Жыл бұрын
@@LonestarTrips, I am glad you did choose “Business Class” because no-where-in-the-world would I have ever believed that any passenger-transportation would have less ‘leg-room’ in a “Business Class”-seat than a “Coach Class”-seat. 😺!
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
@@christopherpearman3422 Right?! Never would I have thought that business class could be worse than coach, but here we are.
@samtrak1204
@samtrak1204 Жыл бұрын
@@LonestarTrips I hope you write to Amtrak and explain what you said about Business Class on this KZbin channel. Someone will listen because you make a good point and no one can disagree with the facts.
@iangoldstein
@iangoldstein Жыл бұрын
I took business class on this train a few years ago and they were using the 2-1 brown leather seats. I had a one seater all the way from New York to Pittsburgh and it was really nice. It's no excuse, but I don't think the Amfleet I was intended to be business class on this route.
@Otterside3548
@Otterside3548 11 ай бұрын
There is a light rail in Pittsburgh. It runs from North Shore all the way to Castle, Shannon, Bethel Park, and library
@Tubes12AX7k
@Tubes12AX7k Жыл бұрын
I'm a frequent business traveler and I take business class when I can. What you're actually paying for is a quiet car, with electrical outlets, no screaming babies, and dedicated baggage space so you can get to your bags and get off the train quickly without much hassle. As soon as I sit down in the seat, I'm probably plugging in my phone or computer and answering emails, and then after that I'll probably get a glass of wine and then sleep. Maybe less likely to take a long ride like Harrisburg to Pittsburgh but definitely would do this from New York to Baltimore or Philadelphia to Boston.
@sandyyoung5876
@sandyyoung5876 7 ай бұрын
😂
@sandyyoung5876
@sandyyoung5876 7 ай бұрын
😊😊
@newenglandskier13
@newenglandskier13 Жыл бұрын
Harrisburg is my favorite Amtrak station that I’ve been to so far, and I’ve been to 30th Street Station & Moynihan Train Hall. There’s just something about its classic PRR vibe that’s like no other station I’ve visited.
@cathymarie8304
@cathymarie8304 Жыл бұрын
Harrisburg is a great station but parking is a real problem. There is a reasonably priced lot behind the station but is a bit of a walk. Middletown now has a nice station. It use to be free to park there, but is now $10/day to park which I think is pricey. Five dollars a day would be reasonable.
@newenglandskier13
@newenglandskier13 Жыл бұрын
@@cathymarie8304 Luckily I didn't need to worry about parking because I took the train there!
@missybarbour6885
@missybarbour6885 Жыл бұрын
@@newenglandskier13 Now that's the way to do it! haha
@97nelsn
@97nelsn Жыл бұрын
I took this train from Greenburg to Newark in 2021 after I helped a friend move to Western PA. I enjoyed the scenery and the horseshoe curve. Once the train got into Philly I thought to myself “How is it that Philly and Pittsburgh are in the same state yet look radically different from each other?”. I wanted to take this train again but going to Greenburg however my friend moved to Ann Arbor, MI before her lease expired so now I’ll be flying to DTW but I might take the Wolverine to Chicago when I visit Ann Arbor sometime this year.
@hollywood1340
@hollywood1340 Жыл бұрын
Stats for nerds is my favorite! Wish more channels did this.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you enjoy them! I never really know if it's a part of the video that people like, so it's always great to hear that its a welcome addition.
@Eric5ohhh
@Eric5ohhh 3 ай бұрын
@@LonestarTripsI like it as well
@mandalorianrailfan8458
@mandalorianrailfan8458 Жыл бұрын
I took the Pennsylvanian from Paioli to Altoona back in December. Not a good train for business travelers in terms of convenience and ability to work, but still worth it. Wish PennDot would pay for more trains, not to say they haven’t tried something, but if you’re on a schedule, driving is almost the only way to go.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Yeah the timing of the single daily train is pretty inconvenient, but I know they’re planning on adding a second round trip to the line, which should hopefully help.
@qjtvaddict
@qjtvaddict Жыл бұрын
Most people are on a schedule that is why Amtrak has such a small mode share. People want SPEED AND FREQUENCY they don’t care about feelings of nostalgia or beauty
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan Жыл бұрын
I certainly wonder what speeds the Pennsylvania Railroad ran their passenger trains at over the mainline. With Amtrak on the Norfolk Southern owned mainline, it only briefly topped out around 75 mph, while most of it cruised no faster than 60 mph. Add in station stops and how much of the cruising was not even that fast.
@TubaDaddy8
@TubaDaddy8 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you about the MLKJ East Busway. It works really well, but a sleeker, faster light rail line would be better suited. It would tie into the existing (though small) Pittsburgh subway system instead of driving around the cramped streets of downtown as the buses do.
@markh7306
@markh7306 Жыл бұрын
I am a frequent traveler between Philly and Pittsburgh, where I have family. I have taken coach and later switched to business Class, which is less crowded than coach. Several times, I have had the entire row to myself. I understand service to Pittsburgh is being increased. Maybe they will upgrade the seats. In general, I am very satisfied with Amtrak. Except for delays caused by NS freight trains, I have experienced on time performances both ways.
@GilmerJohn
@GilmerJohn Жыл бұрын
The service between Pittsburgh and Harrisburg is quite slow. Driving or taking a bus is potentially much faster even if the Pa Turnpike is often a mess. Perhaps Amtrak should acknowledge this fact and invest in a fleet of "super busses" and leave the rail service for freight and sightseeing.
@markh7306
@markh7306 Жыл бұрын
@@GilmerJohn You write busses are "potentially" better. That is not stating a fact. Also, I have driven the PA Turnpike many times between Philly and the burgh and have had no issues, except once when I left on the Sunday after Thanksgiving, where we sat at Somerset for 30 minutes due to volume. So, I altered my schedule to leave on Monday instead of Sunday. Busses = more pollution and congestion. People do not want more roads. I also understand Amtrak is planning to increase service to Pittsburgh.
@GilmerJohn
@GilmerJohn Жыл бұрын
Actually, a lot of people want more roads. Pointing to Pennsylvania, I wonder if some tunnels blasting through the mountains might be popular. They could decrease the route miles and the time.
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 2 ай бұрын
@@GilmerJohn Just one more lane bro!! And no, there are FAR more mountains than you think. One tunnel would be extremely expensive. It would reduce congestion for a time, but tunnels are not easily adaptable to the demand that they induce. If you're going to build a tunnel, build a rail tunnel. Rail is extremely capable of absorbing a rise in demand. Earlier this year, Amtrak increased the length of its Northeast Regional service. All you need to do to accommodate an extra 500 people is have a longer train on exsiting track, not needlesly destroy natural beauty of the landscape to add 5-10 years of capacity. Harrisburgh and pittsburgh are big cities that are growing. Gtfoh with your short term thinking. It's stupid.
@GilmerJohn
@GilmerJohn 2 ай бұрын
@@pootispiker2866 -- Automotive tunnels are quite useful. They often cost more than most bridges but they save a lot of hill climbing and even "crow flying" distance.
@vicsams4431
@vicsams4431 Жыл бұрын
I agree. My wife and I opted for Coach Class on the AMTRAK Maple Leaf (14 hours Toronto to New York) and on the AMTRAK Vermonter (12 hours from New York to St Albans) and we preferred it too, rather than Business Class. Where Business Class is situated in half the Café Car, Business Class was decidedly hotter as the Aircon had to compete with the cooking going on in the Café section. Also you can get interrupted sitting in Business Class as all the dining passengers file passed you. Personally, I also prefer the cloth seats in Coach over the slippery leather seats in Business. So all in all, much better in Coach, and it was half the price ! As your video shows, Coach is more than adequate. Regards from London, England.
@cathymarie8304
@cathymarie8304 Жыл бұрын
I usually take the business class if it’s less than $40 more. The reason is there are normally no children in business class and is much quieter than coach. Sometimes the coach cars are like a playground and the conductor seldom intervenes. Then I just go through all the cars to find the quietest one but if the train is full there may not be any seats.
@r62a_fan
@r62a_fan Жыл бұрын
I took this train today from Trenton to Harrisburg.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I hope you had a great journey.
@r62a_fan
@r62a_fan Жыл бұрын
@@LonestarTrips I did
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan Жыл бұрын
I just rode A42 yesterday from Pittsburgh to Trenton. I was in the last car in pull and got a view out the back. The Amfleet II seats are definitely a premium product. Simply huge amount of space between seats, and the legrest is especially premium. But I’m surprised the Amfleet I is considered business class while the II is considered coach, when the II’s have bigger pitch and the legrest. It’s definitely an action-packed and scenic ride. Must have passed about three dozen freight trains along the way. While I was 40 minutes late at Huntingdon, was only 9 minutes late in Trenton.
@PatrickLeFloch
@PatrickLeFloch Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ozgirl45
@ozgirl45 Жыл бұрын
Another great video! I have just found your channel and I’m playing catch-up. It was amazing to go around the Horseshoe Curve and see yourself at the same time! I’m a great fan of Virtual Railfan since the pandemic.
@mr.conductorfromsts4204
@mr.conductorfromsts4204 Жыл бұрын
I remember this station was used for the movie: Thomas and the Magic Railroad when they used the Strasburg 475 4-8-0 Steam Locomotive (Ex-Norfolk & Western) for the Rainbow Sun. Harrisburg Transportation Center was used for Big City Station.
@potblack6043
@potblack6043 Жыл бұрын
That toy trainset in Harrisburg isn't seasonal. It may have been at one point, but now they keep it there year round.
@linksrepublikaner
@linksrepublikaner Жыл бұрын
Bro, your channel is pretty underrated!
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Haha it's always nice to hear that the content is punching above its weight! I'm sure we'll get to be one of the larger channels someday, but until then, I'll keep putting out the best content I can!
@broyofroyo1207
@broyofroyo1207 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@septabus44
@septabus44 Жыл бұрын
Also depends on what equipment the Pennsylvanian have at some time they do have some amfleet 2 business classes
@rolandhandy9030
@rolandhandy9030 Жыл бұрын
I have taken business class on the Pennsylvanian a few times, however in the cafe/business car. I preferred business due to it being just 18 seats and if traveling alone having the single seat. Thanks for stating the difference between Amfleet 1 and 2.
@Angela-rc6ym
@Angela-rc6ym Жыл бұрын
You don't ride business class on the Pennsylvanian for the leg room. You ride business class to get some peace and quiet and not be reminded about the personal hygiene habits of the Amish.
@leonardroman6544
@leonardroman6544 Жыл бұрын
Try not to travel with Amish onboard on Thursday and Friday. The Amish only bath on Saturday.
@mybigfatpolishlife
@mybigfatpolishlife Жыл бұрын
Pennsylvania really dislike the amish
@MetsGiantsRangersfan
@MetsGiantsRangersfan Жыл бұрын
I'm planning to go to Pittsburgh to see the Mets play at PNC Park. This may have answered my question on business class. Leg rest looks clutch.
@PhantomThiefOfSports
@PhantomThiefOfSports Жыл бұрын
I ridden the Pennsylvanian before in 2021 and noticed the derailed cars and wondered how they were gonna remove them.
@Redhand1949
@Redhand1949 Жыл бұрын
I have taken this trip several times, either as part of a much longer train trip to/from points West or just between Newark, NJ, and Pittsburgh. It's pretty unexceptional so far as I'm concerned, with limited visibility in the narrow valleys and through Horseshoes Curve almost before you know it because much is obscured by trees. I agree that the Business class car, which I've taken, is quite underwhelming. I was a bit surprised that you didn't comment on the part of the route through Johnstown where the infamous flood took place. My one other comment is that the wait in Pittsburgh to make connections with the Capitol Limited can be extremely long, especially when it occurs in the middle of the night! Still, I am glad there is Amtrak service between Philly and Pittsburgh. It's important to keep the route open.
@cesarnyc
@cesarnyc Жыл бұрын
One advantage of riding these trains in the dead of winter is that you get better views with no leaves on the trees, specially when the tracks run parallel to streams or rivers.
@johnchambers8528
@johnchambers8528 Жыл бұрын
I rode the Pennsylvanian several years ago and did buy business class. During my journey I walked through the train and did notice several of the coaches were the longer distance type of coach seats. I thought it odd that the coach seats would be more nice than the business class. At the time I rode the premium for business class was not as high as you paid. But at the fare you paid I would agree that it would not be worth the additional fare for the service.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
The fare was certainly high for the quality of service. Had it been lower, like you mentioned, it probably would have been worth it, but for the 50% increase over standard coach, it was a total ripoff. Granted, the $53 I ended up paying was a little less than the actual ticket price, as there was some form of discount issued when I booked a multi-city journey with Harrisburg as a pitstop. Not sure why that was, but still, not worth the extra cash.
@wrobb3
@wrobb3 Жыл бұрын
Very timely video! We’re set to do the whole length of the Pennsylvanian NYC-PGH in 2 weeks and have been going back and forth on whether to bid for an upgrade or not. Seeing this tells me it’s probably not worth the extra $29 (lowest bid at the moment) unless we luck out and get an Amfleet II business coach. Any idea if it’s standard that they use Amfleet I for business on the Pennsylvania? Or did you just have bad luck on the day you travelled? Awesome channel by the way- keep up the great videos!
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
The Amfleet 2 never came in a business class configuration, just coach and Diner Lite, so it’ll always be an Amfleet 1 business coach. That is unless you luck out and somehow end up with a half diner half business Amfleet 1, which has the larger seats like I showed in the video. And thanks for the support, it’s greatly appreciated!
@robertadams6606
@robertadams6606 Жыл бұрын
The main tracks between Harrisburg & Altoona are only 2. After Altoona there are 3. At 1time there were 4, but for some reason Conrail( Freight operator at the time ) took out one of the tracks West of Altoona.
@motlevi
@motlevi Жыл бұрын
the old guy with his head face down on the table at 13:21 lol
@ScottRothsroth0616
@ScottRothsroth0616 Жыл бұрын
The changes mentioned at rough timestamp 13:31 look effect on or around August 20, 2022.
@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars
@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this Train information
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev Жыл бұрын
Few things illustrate better how the railroad builders had to adapt to the terrain than that map showing the route
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It’s amazing how back and forth some routes have to be to traverse what’s a seemingly short distance.
@garyweisel7084
@garyweisel7084 Жыл бұрын
I've traveled on the Pennsylvanian many times and find that Business is better than Coach overall. Whether it is worth the extra money is up to you. But even Business Class ends up being cheaper and less annoying than driving (for me at least)! And I like to support Amtrak. There are plans to have a second Pennsylvanian within the three years or so, using federal money to lay more track (which will benefit NS also). The return of Three Rivers service would be great but NS will probably complain, requiring more federal money.
@peytonharris616
@peytonharris616 Жыл бұрын
As a local to Lewistown, the river and some town pronunciations hurt 😅 but love the vid! Pennsylvanian has gotten me to and from college many times, thankfully without much incident :)
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
I tried my best to get the pronunciations closer to correct this time around, but looks like I was still a ways off 😂
@peytonharris616
@peytonharris616 Жыл бұрын
@@LonestarTrips Sus-kwuh-hannah, Kit-tanning, and Hun-ning-don, essentially, but the Pittsburgh student in me perked also at Mononga-hey-lah haha; loved seeing the trip and so many local shots! Went right by my house lol
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
@@peytonharris616 Haha thanks for the english lesson. I'll be sure to correct it if I'm ever back in the area. And I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@Robbi496
@Robbi496 Жыл бұрын
It seems like we are being a bit picky? I never can get a Business Class seat on the Midwest Hub, they always seems to be sold out??
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Business class on Midwest trains is operated with a significantly smaller cabin than on northeast trains. Midwest trains operate the Amfleet 1 Business/Diner cars, which have 5-6 rows of 2x1, so only a max of 18 business class passengers, while the full coach business class can hold more than double that.
@bitrexgm
@bitrexgm Жыл бұрын
@@LonestarTrips The "business class" on the Northeast Regional between Boston and NYC is a bit better now that there's assigned seating. Before that on crowded trains the car would often be entirely full by the time the train hit Rte 128 southbound from Boston, once a few business passengers spread out across two seats, and some coach passengers wander in and decide to sit in that car instead. And the staff did NOT care if you could find a seat or not. One time I used a BC upgrade on a ride from Boston to Providence and ended up just sitting at a "reserved for staff only" table across from one of the conductors in the cafe car the whole way, as there was nowhere else to sit..not really worth it lol. On that popular route it really does just seem like a way to sell pretty much the same seats at a significantly higher price once the others sell out, though assigned seating on an otherwise unreserved train makes it a little bit more palatable.
@jeremyzimmerman6968
@jeremyzimmerman6968 Жыл бұрын
That's weird when I traveled on the Pennsylvanian a year ago we had the business class combo with the diner car. I wonder if they had to make a substitution for your trip?
@timbacchus
@timbacchus Жыл бұрын
Loved the seats.
@jerseypup
@jerseypup Жыл бұрын
First time I rode the Pennsylvanian many years ago, I also booked business. Haven't done that since. Back then, It was only half of the coach cars that were the long distance Amfleet II. Now, they're all Amfleet II. So business isn't really worth it. Also, the 2-1 Business layout is generally only on state-supported services, the Pennsylvanian and Keystone excluded.
@stuartlee6622
@stuartlee6622 Жыл бұрын
Where is the Rockville Bridge, Lewistown????
@robertadams6606
@robertadams6606 Жыл бұрын
Also no mention of Gallitzin Tunnel.
@patrickfrazier5324
@patrickfrazier5324 Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to the Pennsylvanian 42 (NYC-bound) crew; they're great!
@sketchyAnalogies
@sketchyAnalogies Жыл бұрын
I've been shopping around on Amtrak for tickets, and there have been weird occasions of business costing less than coach for a multi train ticket. I'll try to report back if I find one or remember one.
@themainlinerailfan6748
@themainlinerailfan6748 Жыл бұрын
Cool Video im sure I’m gonna be 1 of many to comment
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed!
@joebob3719
@joebob3719 Жыл бұрын
I love the Pennsylvanian, frankly it’s the best way to go from Pgh to Philly, and probably NYC too if you don’t want to fly. The buses are a miserable ride, and make the Amfleet 1s seem like the peak of modern luxury.
@stevesteffen7001
@stevesteffen7001 Жыл бұрын
Thank ypu
@wallsknob
@wallsknob Жыл бұрын
The Monongahela River?
@ACooke108
@ACooke108 Жыл бұрын
You should have gone onto the Sugar Creek car.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Seeing as it is a private car, it is not open to the public.
@AlexCentury
@AlexCentury Жыл бұрын
I have a ticket in business on the Pennsylvanian in a few weeks lol
@johnburke1317
@johnburke1317 Жыл бұрын
Nice video
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@transitcaptain
@transitcaptain Жыл бұрын
0:16 correction: the Keystone Corridor refers to the entire line between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. what Harrisburg is the western terminus of is the Philadelphia to Harrisburg mainline
@Robbi496
@Robbi496 Жыл бұрын
So far as the bathroom being clean can mostly be blamed on careless passenger, just my opinion
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
You're definitely correct, but for business class, I was expecting cleaner.
@Robbi496
@Robbi496 Жыл бұрын
@@LonestarTrips Point well taken, in the old days just about every car had a n attendant who did what you spoke of wanting
@stuartlee6622
@stuartlee6622 2 ай бұрын
Minorities....
@chinasl45
@chinasl45 Жыл бұрын
That train hasnt worked in years and yes, I am from and live in Harrisburg City.
@JasonB808
@JasonB808 Жыл бұрын
The toilet on in the Amtrack in this video is not as dirty as most public bathrooms in US so I guess we have to be great full for that. 😅 But no Transportation toilets can compare to Wheel Chair Accessible Toilets on Japanese Shinkansen. It’s not only super clean, and modern, it is the largest toilet on anything with wheels or wings.
@DavidTaylor-v6o
@DavidTaylor-v6o Жыл бұрын
I like the horseshoe curve I have been around it in years Amtrak put the Broadway Limited in the history books I think it is a real shame I grew around Cape Cod I lived and worked in Chicago a few years Rode the Broadway limited back and forth
@carltonkeys6205
@carltonkeys6205 Жыл бұрын
It's still up sir
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
What is?
@carltonkeys6205
@carltonkeys6205 Жыл бұрын
The model train display
@chasespadavecchia6407
@chasespadavecchia6407 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like Amfleet IIs took inspiration from Amfleet I business class. I would be curious to see if there are any Amfleet II business class cars, or what they would've looked like. If you are riding from anywhere East of Harrisburg, coach is 100% better. Once you hit Harrisburg almost everybody gets off and you get lots of space. Meanwhile in business class, you're probably next to someone entire ride.
@apollosaturn5
@apollosaturn5 Жыл бұрын
Amfleet IIs are basically Amfleet I Businesss Class.
@carltonkeys6205
@carltonkeys6205 Жыл бұрын
I was told that the electrication went to Sunbury 🤔
@844SteamFan
@844SteamFan 3 ай бұрын
Nerd here, you forgot to mention that the baggage car is a Viewliner II Baggage car
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 Жыл бұрын
P42 locomotives have motors you can *feel.*
@broyofroyo1207
@broyofroyo1207 Жыл бұрын
Cool 😎
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😄
@broyofroyo1207
@broyofroyo1207 Жыл бұрын
Your welcome 🤗
@ryan225360
@ryan225360 29 күн бұрын
Empire corridor business class is 2-1, and super comfortable. Much better than Amfleet 1 coach.
@danielpoliti31
@danielpoliti31 Жыл бұрын
No mention of cost?
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Cost is in the description.
@danielpoliti31
@danielpoliti31 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, i did not see that. I have traveled alot by train....in Thailand, but never in the US.
@apollosaturn5
@apollosaturn5 Жыл бұрын
If you have Amfleet II coach cars, what's the point of having an Amfleet I business class car? Just "money grab", I guess.
@MirzaAhmed89
@MirzaAhmed89 Жыл бұрын
The only advantage to business class on Amtrak corridor trains is free drinks from the cafe.
@rominn2184
@rominn2184 10 ай бұрын
I will never ride in Amtrak business class again unless it's one of the older business-cafe cars that have the red seats, and the ONLY cars that have SINGLE seats on one side so you don't have to sit next to anyone. Otherwise, it is not worth it. That other half of the cafe is separated by a curtain and that business section is smaller and more intimate. THAT'S an actual business class, not a car that is really just glorified coach if even that. I too took the Pennsylvanian to Pittsburgh in "business class" and felt duped. But Amtrak doesn't tell you what kind of business class they are using - a full car (not business class) or a cafe-business car which is the only kind of legitimate business class that exists on Amtrak save for the Acela. But how were you unaware you'd booked business class? It costs more and it indicates it right on your reservation.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 10 ай бұрын
I totally agree with your sentiment. Business class is only really business class if it has the 2x1 leather seats. I was unaware I had business class because I totally forgot. This was segment 24 of 32 on an 8 day trip across the Northeast and Midwest to gather footage for the channel.
@jakestolar8457
@jakestolar8457 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, your video convinced me to downgrade my Business ticket and save some money.
@LiamWalsheliamskitchen
@LiamWalsheliamskitchen Жыл бұрын
It's the same for the Palmetto. Business is worse than coach.
@qjtvaddict
@qjtvaddict Жыл бұрын
Wow you don’t hold back
@scottsheehan1596
@scottsheehan1596 Жыл бұрын
where would we be if we didn't have something to complain about
@RealCrimsonPeach_TSFTWDTFTL
@RealCrimsonPeach_TSFTWDTFTL Жыл бұрын
You know, I was about to leave a comment asking about the Capitol Limited to Chicago right before you mentioned it. Anyways, cool video. I hope to ride the Pennsylvanian and see the Appalachian Mountains one day. I've only gone as far as Harrisburg.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Haha took the words right out of your mouth! I highly recommend taking the train out to Pittsburgh if you can, cause the views are just stunning. The footage in this video doesn't do it justice, despite my best attempt.
@Jimbodisfan
@Jimbodisfan Жыл бұрын
Good morning! My friend Dave and I took the Pennsylvanian from Philly to Pittsburgh on Thursday, June 30, 2010, to see the Phillies-Pirates series at PNC Park. The train left 30th Street Station in Philadelphia at 12:43 PM and arrived at Pittsburgh's relatively small Amtrak station at 1100 Liberty Ave at 8:05 PM. For us the highlight was going through the Allegheny Mountains just past Altoona, chugging through that famous curve. From the back of the train you can see the front. Altoona's minor-league baseball team is named the Curve. We returned July 5, 2010, on a trip equally as long.
@RealCrimsonPeach_TSFTWDTFTL
@RealCrimsonPeach_TSFTWDTFTL Жыл бұрын
@@Jimbodisfan That’s cool! I like baseball, too! I'm from New York, though, so I like the Mets.
@elliotthalsey2810
@elliotthalsey2810 Жыл бұрын
My father worked that train
@34jared
@34jared Жыл бұрын
Reason to take biz. class = quiet and no kids.
@martharetallick204
@martharetallick204 4 ай бұрын
Good enough for me!
@aleks1105
@aleks1105 Жыл бұрын
Why ya all American trains so dirty like dammm. I am from Germany and this gives me chills the amount of dirt I see
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 2 ай бұрын
Why is dirt a bad thing? You aren't eating off the carbody and the train doesn't run any differently. Maybe you Krauts would have time for fun things if you weren't spending your days making sure every piece of machinery that naturally gets dirty stays clean.
@MissRailfan
@MissRailfan Жыл бұрын
What day was this. I did amtrak round trip from Lewistown to Harrisburg n back with 42's leader. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX-TimOna92akJo That train layout is always christmas i think. Junk. You follow the Susquehanna, till Duncannon to follow the Juniata River. You didn't get the clip of crossing Rockville?!?! 2 track mainline only sidings make it 3. From Altoona to Conpit (seward) is 3 tracks). I used to live near Gallitzin/Hsc/Cresson.
@DavidTaylor-v6o
@DavidTaylor-v6o Жыл бұрын
I do my very best to go on a vacation I do not want to go broke doing it I bring my own food I not going to pay Amtrak high food prices All that I want the train to do is get me from point A to B
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 2 ай бұрын
What trains are you riding that food costs too much? Is $3 too much for you?
@qjtvaddict
@qjtvaddict Жыл бұрын
5 hours? : AINT NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 2 ай бұрын
Clearly people do.
@qjtvaddict
@qjtvaddict Ай бұрын
@@pootispiker2866wrong cause most people don’t use it that’s a fact
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 Ай бұрын
@@qjtvaddict What a Braindead comment. Do you struggle with simple tasks?
@StudioSA15
@StudioSA15 Жыл бұрын
Harrisbug!
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Harrisbug!
@StudioSA15
@StudioSA15 Жыл бұрын
@@LonestarTrips yess!, can u add me on discord
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
@@StudioSA15 What for?
@StudioSA15
@StudioSA15 Жыл бұрын
@@LonestarTrips sound clips when you go on trips + talk about train (:
@Aqua_108
@Aqua_108 Жыл бұрын
I am first on your video
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
Happy to have a loyal fan such as yourself!
@williamralph5442
@williamralph5442 Жыл бұрын
Business class is not worth a free coke. Thanks
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@entized5671
@entized5671 Жыл бұрын
try riding first class on ÖBB eurocity ☺️🤮
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps not.
@DeltaFish11
@DeltaFish11 Жыл бұрын
The year is 2042 and here lies NS train and horseshoe curve
@joshuafajardo5697
@joshuafajardo5697 Жыл бұрын
Pennsylvanian should only be having Amfleet 1️⃣, not 2️⃣
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 2 ай бұрын
Your keyboard has numbers on it
@joshuafajardo5697
@joshuafajardo5697 2 ай бұрын
@@pootispiker2866 emojis r cooler
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 2 ай бұрын
@@joshuafajardo5697 We express gay pride in many ways, I guess
@penguinsfan251
@penguinsfan251 Жыл бұрын
In Pennsylvania, we call the mountains the Alleghenies. Nobody calls them the Appalachians here. The reservoir is called Kit-TAN-ing. The Mon River's long name is Mo-nong-a-HAY-la. Yeah, it's an "e" but pronounced long A.
@centredoorplugsthornton4112
@centredoorplugsthornton4112 Жыл бұрын
Bluntly, Amfleet ll cars don't belong on trains like the Pennsylvanian.
@gatorjay7972
@gatorjay7972 Жыл бұрын
Amtrak has never really tried to improve the entire line from Pittsburg to Philly.
@samtrak1204
@samtrak1204 Жыл бұрын
Within the last 20 years there have been massive station and track improvements on the Keystone. These include returning the corridor to all-electric service with more and faster trains.
@gatorjay7972
@gatorjay7972 Жыл бұрын
@@samtrak1204 I realize over a 20 year span, money has been spent. and compared with 2000, there are improvements, but still not even close to getting the line, service and equipment to the level it should be . PA deserves better.
@potblack6043
@potblack6043 Жыл бұрын
@@gatorjay7972 And it's gonna get it. Back in June, it was announced that the line will be receiving $200 million in infrastructure and safety improvement, and service will be increased to two roundtrips daily.
@gatorjay7972
@gatorjay7972 Жыл бұрын
@@potblack6043 Thank you for the update. I am old and old school. I love passenger trains. I think that something is lost when we fly over everything to get somewhere. Plus it is so much fun if you make it so.
@gatorjay7972
@gatorjay7972 Жыл бұрын
@@samtrak1204 I agree the commuter line has been improved ...I am a fan of the longer runs and I believe that with good schedules, frequency and amenities, Pittsburg to Philly would be a good run .
@dant.6364
@dant.6364 Жыл бұрын
The Pittsburgh station is dark and dirty, has trees growing out of the canopy roof on the approach, and particle board as you enter the building. What a disgrace. Go read the horrible Google reviews.
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 2 ай бұрын
Who cares about the google reviews? Are you mental? I board and disembark just fine every time.
@aridianknight3576
@aridianknight3576 5 ай бұрын
Damn shoulda stopped for a primantis sandwich
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 5 ай бұрын
I did! Had a couple hours to kill between the Pennsylvanian and Capitol Limited, so I went out to grab dinner at Primanti's.
@aridianknight3576
@aridianknight3576 5 ай бұрын
@@LonestarTrips oh nice, what’d ya get and what’d ya think?
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 5 ай бұрын
@@aridianknight3576 It's been a couple years, so I don't remember exactly what I got, but I remember it being awesome.
@aridianknight3576
@aridianknight3576 5 ай бұрын
@@LonestarTrips fuck yeah, can’t go too wrong at primantis lol
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 5 ай бұрын
@@aridianknight3576 That you can't. I need to get back out to the area so I can go back.
@jbean9657
@jbean9657 Жыл бұрын
Do you know what homely means? 🤣 maybe you were using the British definition lol. In North America this means "unattractive" and "plain" but then you go on to describe it with words like beautiful and say it's on the national historic register. Lol
@carlsmith5545
@carlsmith5545 Жыл бұрын
America needs true highspeed bullet trains.
@IndigosClothing
@IndigosClothing Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure everyone knows that but it’s not that easy
@robertadams6606
@robertadams6606 Жыл бұрын
It will never happen in USA too many grade crossings, most of the track used by Amtrak is not their own trackage, is used to haul freight traffic too. The closest is on small section of NEC, & Brightline in Fla. Even in Virginia there is a St. running track.
@blakemorris2328
@blakemorris2328 Жыл бұрын
You really mispronounced Susquehanna
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
I am aware. I tried my best to find the correct pronunciation online, but I couldn't find a consistent answer, so I just picked one. Clearly I did not choose wisely.
@povertyspec9651
@povertyspec9651 Жыл бұрын
Amtrash
@kevinhoward9593
@kevinhoward9593 Жыл бұрын
i didn't know they built high level platforms at Harrisburg.g
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын
I think they've had them for a while now? I was under the assumption that they were always high level, but I guess not.
@kevinhoward9593
@kevinhoward9593 Жыл бұрын
@@LonestarTrips probably. its been a minute since i went through there.
@kevinhoward9593
@kevinhoward9593 Жыл бұрын
@@LonestarTrips the PA Government is working on adding a second daily trip for the train.
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