I used to be a supervisor that did construction/maintenance work in steel mills around the US and Canada. I worked in most of them but most of my work was along the Ohio River from Portsmouth, Ohio, Weirton, Wheeling, Marietta, Stubenville to Pittsburgh but my home base was working at U.S. Steel in Birmingham, Alabama. We did many things in the mills but one thing we did do was to reline these torpedo ladles. In Birmingham, they had two sizes, 150 and 250 ton Pollock or Treadwell ladles. Almost all ladles were used inside plants because they were not usually road worthy to be on a Class I railroad and the requirements for being outside the plant were very tough and many could not pass the inspection. I remember Armco Steel in Hamilton, Ohio sent torpedo ladles via either CSX or Norfolk Southern to it's Middletown, Ohio plant and they did this everyday. Usually these ladles had a insulating brick back up lining, 8 inches with a 70% alumina hardbrick, super-duty brick that was 13 inches thick on the middle band where they poured the metal into the ladle from the blast furnace. Before casting into a ladle, the turn foreman on the casthouse floor would make sure the ladle was preheated to keep from thermo shocking the refractory brick. The foreman would also look to see if there was a pothole in the ladle to see that it was not too deep as not to burn through the brick lining. Sometimes torpedo ladles were used on opposite pouring spouts so that the iron stream did not always hit the same spot on every cast. Every day, each ladles went through the Ladle House for inspection to make sure all the mechanical parts were not broken, empty ladles still glowing hot were visually inspected by turning them down and in the up position, an infrared gun would be manually scanned to look for hot spots in which would indicate brick being thin. If there were hot spots, the ladle would be taken out of service for repair of the lining or brick replacement. Many times we would do hot gunning where we would gun refractory in a shotcrete gun and fill in the hot spot or impact spot. These hot repairs would sometimes last a few weeks and save money to the mill. Sometimes the ladles would be allowed to cool and rather than to rebrick, we would shotcrete a 70% alumina castable in the entire ladle and we would put about 22 tons of castable in a ladle lining. We could gun a ladle several times before rebricking. A gun repair would take one shift and one or two shits to cure and then the castable had to dry with no water after having a gas lance slowly driving the water out. If the water was not dried out completely, the water could turn to steam and explode like a bomb in which this is called Explosive Spalling. Rebricking was a last resort but lasted a long time but it took nearly a week of a crew of brickmasons to tear out the old brick, rebricking and drying and preheating the ladle before going back on the line. I think gondolas between torpedoes was only to redistribute weight going over weight restricted bridges and the average weight of a hopper car was around 100 tons but torpedos could be either 150 ton, 250 ton and some mills had 300 ton ladles. If any torpedo ladles were to be put on the road to another mill, they would have been scanned carefully for hot spots and all the mechanical parts were inspected before leaving the plant. Within the plant, only hot spots were the biggest concern. I saw one foreman get into a lot of trouble for not inspecting a ladle under the blast furnace because it was dark and sometimes if ladles were tight, they were not always preheated but this particular ladle had no brick in it because it was to be rebricked and when the furnace was cast, the stream of molten iron poured into the ladle and straight through the steel plate and onto the ground and railroad tracks. I remember the mill trying to pull the ladles out before they welded themselves to the track and they only got one out of three ladles out. The others had to cool down and dragged out and with a crane, they were lifted onto new trucks but they were still badly damaged. Sometimes ladles were lost on the track somewhere by the yardmaster and the ladle would sit somewhere and after 24 hours, the entire load would have solidified. It is a long process at the ladle house for a man to have a long lance burning out the solidified iron so the ladle could be sacrificed. This took many days. They would start with acetylene and oxygen and when it got hot enough, they would switch to straight oxygen. Eventually they could get an excavator with a pneumatic hammer to get the rest out so that the ladle could be eventually lined. One note is that intra mill locomotives used a short cat between the engine and the first torpedo ladle with no buffer cars after that. I shared about everything we did back then and I have not been involved with these integrated mills since 1995 and I still remember quite a bit. My information is first hand from me how it was done.
@CGT8675 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks.
@thomream18885 жыл бұрын
Mr. Allison, you really need to write a book! You might ask at a local High School if they have any journalism classes that might have someone that could help you. But you are a living treasure, much like our WWII vets, that have so much knowledge that really needs to be passed on. No one does that type of work any more... it would be a shame to lose that hard-earned education. Please consider this; as a favor to us older folks, and as a gift for the younger ones.
@PenskePC174 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for sharing
@digimaks4 жыл бұрын
Jeez.. a ladle with hot metal get lost somewhere at a switching yard and end up turning into solid block of iron!? Sounds like something unlikely to happen.... What a mess....
@jed-henrywitkowski64704 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping our mills going! By the way, out of curiosity, I'm going to look for pictures or videos of burn throughs and cars being welded to the track, as a result.
@grandlotus16 жыл бұрын
Magnificent! Over 36 years ago, I took a tour of (I believe) the now-defunct Edgar Thompson Works in Homestead, Pennsylvania. Back in the day, the plants that engaged in the various stages of steel production were in relatively close proximity. Torpedo cars like these were brought to the Edgar Thompson Works directly from the blast furnaces - multi-car trainloads of molten pig iron. The trains climbed inside the plant to a height of about three stories, then disgorged the molten iron contents of each torpedo car into a gigantic crane-operated ladle that waited below. The heat was palpable from 50 yards away. During this process, superheated vapors rose to the top of the enclosed structure, then rained down on me (and my fellow medical students) in a torrent of black snow - every flake of which was a perfect 2-D graphite hexagon, 0.2 mm on a side. I was amazed! The true story of American greatness includes "The Eastern" a least as much as "The Western." (Precisely why I love "The Gangs of New York.")
@pyroman60006 жыл бұрын
Edgar Thompson works is still open- it's the last remaining blast furnace still operating in PA! Homestead was closed, and so were all the others. There's nothing left of Homestead now, save for a row of stacks that once vented the soaking pits, the Hot Metal bridge over the river, and Carrie Furnace. (which you can tour as a museum!) Plenty of defunct mill buildings scattered around the area- it's depressing, knowing what used to be there.
@kiwitrainguy7 жыл бұрын
When I first I heard about drones and being able to use them for photography I knew they would be an indispensable tool, especially for photographing moving things like........trains! This is absolutely beautiful footage. Also thanks for the track layout at the start.
@armageddon19817 жыл бұрын
I work for NS that's the bh 14 (bh 28 at night) and it serves the arcelor mittal steel mills in Riverdale,il and east chicago,in respectively. They also serve the one in burns barbor,in but that's the 34g. Being close to those cars are danger enough and thankfully the switching is not all that hard,most of our time is waiting for signals seeing that we use csx and ihb tracks. But this was an awesome video,good work.
@thejonathanbrier7 жыл бұрын
they are spacers; the torpedos are so heavy that certain bridges and other infrastructure cant support too many of them in a given length, hence the spacers. Someone pls correct me if thats wrong
@Lightning_Mike6 жыл бұрын
I guess it also has to do with extra braking force
@laveturnerjones39543 жыл бұрын
@Drew Smith these are to my best estimation 15/200 tonne cars each. each car weighs approx the same as its contents so 300/400 tons each. lots of bridges cant handle these weights without spacer cars
@thomasmint17612 жыл бұрын
Actually those cars are filled with hot steaming human waste
@manly62667 жыл бұрын
I loved the video. The map/diagram near the beginning was very helpful. I like the geometry and symmetry of tracks and enjoyed viewing them from above on your video. I have liked and subscribed. Keep up the good work.
@Tolono7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. I always like to show the "lay of the land" so it's easier to tell what's happening. More great videos to come!
@Quadflash7 жыл бұрын
Drone coverage is awesome! Puts an unusual train into perspective.
@rodneymcgiveron7 жыл бұрын
beautiful work ...very cool from a U.S. rail nut fan living in Australia , The drone makes it look like a giant model railway actually which I'm also an enthusiast of . Building a room size BNSF/ATSF one myself.. The old loco , GP 38 maybe , sounded amazing as she worked hard to do the job..THANKS..
@brianbrewster65327 жыл бұрын
Man, I am truly missing out not having a drone cam like you! This was a very slick production. Keep up the good work, buddy. Who doesn't like watching trains passing through?
@johnsimms61842 жыл бұрын
People in a hurry at a crossing at grade.
@pauljason6327 жыл бұрын
Wow! that's some complex looking railroad tracks you have there,all those different railroad companies converging there like they do!,very interesting,thank you for the fly over.
@kiwitrainguy7 жыл бұрын
It look like a Clover-Leaf junction on the Inter-State.
@lk69126 жыл бұрын
kiwitrainguy same thing where I work in Canada, CN and CP railways are often crossing or right beside each other!
@matthewscott59777 жыл бұрын
You should really see that train at night. The top of those bottle train cars glow bright yellow/orange.
@jameslehnert50547 жыл бұрын
Okay Ferroequinology, you have your marching orders! One video of this train at night please!
@windt4lker746 жыл бұрын
Q: Why would they be carrying molten metal?
@g1sokool6695 жыл бұрын
The metal in the cars is pig iron. It needs to be further refined to make into steel.
@gregh99757 жыл бұрын
Now there's something you don't see every day ! Excellent.
@stimpy13207 жыл бұрын
when I used to deliver chemicals into the mills I got to see them load them at the blast furnace line at the old J-L/ LTV plant and Inland , Bethlehem burns harbor ( NOW A-M metals ) , they use them in plant as well at USS , you could feel the heat radiating off them when they brought them back empty and watching them get filled it s a sight to see . never got the chance to see them unload . I know in the plant they use remote controlled engines with sheilds all over them to keep the molten metal from damaging them
@clarence432326 жыл бұрын
Interesting rotation here between one car and the next.
@pneumatic007 жыл бұрын
Excellent drone footage!
@ralfschnippkoweit95967 жыл бұрын
Super Video. Niemals habe ich so eine Kreuzung gesehen ! Nice Video. I have never seen a crossing like this !
@farmerdave79657 жыл бұрын
Molten iron is pretty heavy stuff. I'm guessing the gondolas are there due to weight resrrictions on bridges. Bottle cars are used to haul molten Iron from the blast furnace to the steel making furnace.
@matthewscott59777 жыл бұрын
Farmer Dave the gons are used as buffer cars due to the extreme heat. After the conrail merger CSX and NS had an agreement where they would switch off running the train every few years. CSX ran the train from 1999 till I'm not sure.
@sumrandomschmuck7 жыл бұрын
Those bottles are 200 ton cars from the looks of the 8 axels per car. We use the same type of bottles at our mill in Detroit. I work at the USS Great Lakes Works. Currently I am on a bottle job that takes the Pig Iron from the furnaces to the BOP for processing. The outsides of the bottles are minimum 550 degrees f.
@robertszallavarysullivan95707 жыл бұрын
No, the gons are spacer cars needed to comply with FRA Hazmat train handling regulations.
@farmerdave79657 жыл бұрын
At the steel mill where I used to work the blast furnaces were a short distance from the QBOPs which are BOFs that are blown on top and bottom. Hot iron from the blast furnaces was poured directly into ladles on rail cars which were then transported a short distance to the desulfurization facility and then transported to the BOFs. No bottle cars were used.
@Phantom19634 жыл бұрын
Be very careful around these torpedo cars. For some reason Sasquatch are drawn to these cars and they are aggressively seeking food. You can see 2 male Sasquatches at 5:50 top center, about 150 yards apart...standing very still
@ldegmtrainspotter4 жыл бұрын
Great catch! Thumbs Up Greetings from Romania Andrew
@Lost-In-Blank4 жыл бұрын
Really well done. The map at the start and the drone footage really improve the video.
@matthewscott59777 жыл бұрын
There are actually no NS tracks at that interlocking. NS is currently running that train due to an agreement that was made as part of the CSX/NS split of Conrail.
@georgejones29096 жыл бұрын
The historic Pennsylvania RR Tower was torn down the summer of 2017. Dolton is due south of Chicago 142nd. thru 154th. Streets.
@Tom-Lahaye7 жыл бұрын
Well done, I like the intricate track layout being filmed from the sky. Sadly I can't see this type of trains in my area anymore, Arcelor Mittal closed the blast furnaces in Liege, Belgium now almost 10 years ago, but there bottle trains used the national network between furnaces and steel mills as well. Must have some old footage of these.
@bobernst88267 жыл бұрын
dieselmupke I
@markrobinson38307 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video from start to finish!!!! #lovethevideo
@zalmaflash7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. Great drone work.
@ronnylobello7 жыл бұрын
Nice. I've seen these trains and wondered what they carried. Now I know.
@omkr01227 жыл бұрын
This train is the most metal train ever. It deserves a background score of the Iron Maiden, Rammstein and Slayer.
@digimaks4 жыл бұрын
"Du hats mich" track would fit perfectly!@
@omkr01224 жыл бұрын
@@digimaks I love that song!
@jonwicker31424 жыл бұрын
I wish you had caught the train after being filled. In any case, I remember seeing that old looking building as well as this rail intersection when I would take the Amtrak to milwaukee from St. Louis.
@firemann574 жыл бұрын
You didn't pass through Dolton Jct when taking Amtrak between St. Louis and Milwaukee.
@billfusionenterprise7 жыл бұрын
one site I grew up with, Used to live out there back in 70's
@rogerb56157 жыл бұрын
Ferroeq: Why the alternating bottle cars and gondolas in this consist? I used to watch hot metal trains cross the Monongahela River in Pittsburgh, from J&L's blast furnaces on one shore to their open hearth shops on the south side. These consists were 100% bottle cars. They ran on a dedicated bridge called (surprise!) the Hot Metal Bridge. The mills went cold in the late 1970s or thereabouts. The bridge is now a combination auto / bicycle / pedestrian route.
@rogerb56157 жыл бұрын
Reading other comments, I see most people think the alternating car consist is to reduce weight concentration. This was not an issue on the Hot Metal Bridge as it was designed expressly for use by loaded bottle cars.
@paulnorton56707 жыл бұрын
VERY NICELY DONE
@philliplee9807 жыл бұрын
very cool. awesome catch.
@tm5020107 жыл бұрын
Wow! Never knew trains carried molten metal. What's the story here? What kind? What distance? Purpose, etc.? The drone was, frankly, awesome! A great way to capture train video footage!
@Tolono7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video. If you want to see more videos from our drone, I made another video of this same location with lots more drone footage of the trains that came by: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXOpiqt9l89kl6c Bottle cars are used in most steel mills to bring molten metal from one end of the building to the other. As far as I know, this is the only place in North America where you can see them on the mainline. The total distance is about 12-13 miles, from the (huge) ArcelorMittal steel mill on Lake Michigan (I have a few videos of it as well) to the smaller ArcelorMittal branch just a mile or so northwest of the junction in this video. The train in this video was starting up with empties from the smaller branch in Dolton and heading across the diamond over to East Chicago.
@scooots44347 жыл бұрын
The torpedo cars are used for hauling molten iron from blast furnaces to BOP furnaces to be made in to steel. They also could be hauling steel to a continuous caster.
@man_on_wheelz2 жыл бұрын
I was just commenting about this on another video about steel mills, did a search for it and I'll be damned... you're talking about the same trains I've seen with my own eyes... multiple times in Dolton/Riverdale. I'm partially involved in the big railroad project about to be underway at that CSX/UPRR/NS/IHB diamond right there. EDIT: I was recently on the mentioned job, that baseball diamond is gone now, all that land looks a bit different now, preparing for the new configuration.
@Tolono2 жыл бұрын
Good timing on your comment. I was passing through the area today (haven’t been to Dolton in about 5 years) and tried to turn at the bowling pin like I always used to do, but saw that someone had put up a no trespassing sign. You mention a large project; I’m curious what'll be happening with the area. Are they adding a connection in the northwest quadrant where the baseball fields were?
@man_on_wheelz2 жыл бұрын
@@Tolono Oh wow, this comment was good timing lol. Actually it’s one of the many CSX projects (I think around the US) aimed at increasing the flow of traffic and giving the ability to raise the track speed in some areas. Thinking back on the prints I reviewed and the meetings I’ve attended, I believe the existing connections will remain, however they are shifting that entire diamond inward a bit towards where the baseball field used to be to affectively straighten that track that runs NW-E just a bit, allowing trains to pass through a bit faster. My task is to make relocation plans for the MCI fiber optic lines to accommodate these shifts in track design. You were actually standing right in front of one of my markers that has already been removed since our line has since been moved quite a bit there. My crew might already be done now if I’m not mistaken. Haven’t checked in on that project in a while.
@vincentdaniels73152 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I'm from Dolton and used to play baseball over there and in Riverdale. My Uncle still works at the glass company. Nice video, thank you and I will subscribe.
@man_on_wheelz2 жыл бұрын
@@vincentdaniels7315 I've only fairly recently been through there a few times, like I said, for this railroad job. Was the (I'm guessing) bowling alley active in your childhood? The giant bowling pin really sticks out, but I don't recall seeing a bowling alley to accompany it.
@vincentdaniels73152 жыл бұрын
@@man_on_wheelz There was a bowling alley in that area and there was Dolton Bowl on Sibley (147th), I don’t think none exist in Dolton anymore.
@abhijitkhanvalkar47984 жыл бұрын
Wow ! Too good !!
@TheNorthwestWind7 жыл бұрын
Pretty nuts you can see the heat coming off the slag cars
@Injudiciously7 жыл бұрын
What a great drone! Rock steady, high res.. What is it?
@elsdp-45607 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU...for sharing.
@jjsgarage36344 жыл бұрын
Nice catch!
@kevinthompson58274 жыл бұрын
I've been watching and wondering how they empty them and what they're making with the material? Great videos with a drone.
@firemann574 жыл бұрын
The cars are empty in this video (eastbound). When loaded (westbound) they carry molten iron to be refined into steel. Cars are unloaded by the torpedo section rotating on trunnions mounted over the trucks at each end. Rotate the car and pour the metal out the hole.
@kevinthompson58274 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks I never thought that I would have gotten an answer because of the video being so old. So I'm betting that they glow at night to?
@firemann574 жыл бұрын
@@kevinthompson5827 In the old days you could see a glow - day or night - coming out the hole at the top. However, starting in the 1980s materials were invented (other than the brick liner) that can withstand the heat and so now the cars have a top on them over the hole and you don't see much of a glow.
@kevinthompson58274 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for helping me understand it and answering my questions.
7 жыл бұрын
bottle cars carry molten iron from the blast furnaces to the various steel making furnaces
@thinklikeido6 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of hot metal. The gondolas are loaded for braking because the bottle cars are disproportionately heavy and hav insufficient braking when loaded.
@ianclampin1037 жыл бұрын
Great video, I never knew they transported molten steel like this. How do they keep it molten during transit, and why do they separate each bottle with a flat car?
@whiteknightcat7 жыл бұрын
Molten steel is over 2500 degrees F, so it stays hot for quite a long time. The insides of the cars are lined with refractory material, a fancy term for multiple layers of firebrick. This helps retain the heat in the liquid while insulating the body of the car so it doesn't melt as well. Regardless, the cars get VERY hot. Personnel require insulated protective clothing working near them. The spacer gondolas help provide a greater safe working distance from the cars then if they were all coupled together. They also provide a place for a brakeman to ride since trying to hold on to an incredibly hot bottle car would be pretty much impossible for long even with protective gear. Also, solid or liquid, the amount of steel in a bottle car is VERY heavy, hence the multiple trucks. These ones are actually smaller ones, carrying maybe about 200 tons of molten steel each. There are much large cars that can haul over 300 tons. The spacer gondolas spread these heavy cars out to help prevent overloading bridges and similar structures that might otherwise fail with these cars all coupled together.
@ianclampin1037 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply and the information. That's really interesting, and something I had never come across before as I said. We don't have anything like that over here that I'm aware of. I never thought about the cars melting! From what you said about the heat I'm guessing you may be able to see a slight glow on a really dark night. And that's some serious weight more than twice a Loco's weight, no wonder they have to spread the weight. Thanks again.
@scotthayes59337 жыл бұрын
10 degrees! That's pretty dang cold!
@Heroduothecomedian7 жыл бұрын
why is there cars between each as I've heard them called football cars for? the ones near me don't ever have cars in between them
@scrappycat16476 жыл бұрын
I always thought that bottle cars were used just inside a steel mill. I never knew that they'd travel any distance. A bottle car is lined with thick fire brick, so I guess it'll stay molten for a long time. Long enough apparently !
@laveturnerjones39543 жыл бұрын
if pig iron temperatures are good (1470/1540°c) you can leave them up to 12 hours at our plant. just need to punch thru the crust at the top then pour em out. with the lids they have here id say you get up to 18/24 hours of time before trouble starts
@sammarachino54277 жыл бұрын
Come from Washington, pa. And mon valley. Which is Monessen Monongahela Belle Vernon, etc.. When I was a kid, they were still using the very old and cook ovens in Bentleyville.. What intrigues me about this train? Is that they separate each torpedo car? With a gondola. . I assume that it is a way to keep the heat buildup under control.
@robertszallavarysullivan95707 жыл бұрын
Heat has nothing to do with the gons as spacers.
@firemann574 жыл бұрын
Gondolas used as idler cars to spread out the weight.
@digimaks7 жыл бұрын
"COMING THRU COMING THRU, HOT SOUP HOT SOUP!"
@alfrednawrocki80614 жыл бұрын
Why is there a gondola between each bottle var?
@digimaks4 жыл бұрын
@@alfrednawrocki8061 I had same question.. My best guess is to reduce weight stress on track, overpass bridges and turnouts. Adding gondolas between them spreads the weight between hot metal cars.
@astrazenica77833 жыл бұрын
What is the benefit of transporting metal in molten state? Furnace availability? I didn't know this was even possible
@laveturnerjones39543 жыл бұрын
pretty much the only way to do it for pig iron from the blast furnace that is going to get usef in bof furnaces. it needs to be liquid to be used there. its also done with steel on pretty race occasion, for example when the steel mill suddenly has a caster go down they could empty their ladles into these cars and take them to another plant to use their casters
@johnsimms61842 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. What's the bowling pin about?
@Dr_Won_Hung_Lo6 жыл бұрын
How do they keep the steel in a molten state and not cool down?
@swayteca7 жыл бұрын
Do you have an idea why the combination of gondola bottle gondola bottle.... is used? Are the continents of the bottles waste products from the milling process? Very nice view from your drone.
@thomas909107 жыл бұрын
swayteca my only guess is that it stops there being a concentration of heat in one area, there is cool space in between increasing the safety
@miker20027 жыл бұрын
The bottle cars when loaded are incredibly heavy. The spacers make sure bridges don't collapse underneath the train.
@firemann574 жыл бұрын
Cars carry molten iron. Spacers to spread the weight.
@thomasanyonein39257 жыл бұрын
You should have 1M subs
@hovermotion7 жыл бұрын
very cool....I have the model wagons..
@Mastertech67 жыл бұрын
cool shot
@armeddutchman5 жыл бұрын
How often does something go horribly wrong?
@witz107 жыл бұрын
half way throught the video and still no drone footage what the heck man
@clayton41155 жыл бұрын
very nice!!!
@floodedcar1237 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Great train.
@paullanyi5167 жыл бұрын
Luved the video / drone footage. But the first 5 minutes could easily have been eliminated. Do you encounter any hassle getting that close to the junction area ?
@IowaGrandpaTrain7 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I like the use of ground camera and drone camera intermixed. Is that park a decent place to railfan?
@rickkilimun54306 жыл бұрын
This may have all ready been asked, but how does the metal stay molten if it has to be transferred a long distance?
@firemann574 жыл бұрын
It's only about a twelve mile trip. Takes a couple of hours. Hot metal stays molten inside those cars for longer than that.
@ron8277 жыл бұрын
Jan. and no snow?
@happyhome414 жыл бұрын
Why the arrangement of each bullet car separated by a gondola ?
@Lost-In-Blank4 жыл бұрын
Loaded torpedo cars are very heavy. So the separator gondola or flat cars are (1) to distribute the weight over a greater length when going over bridges, (2) to provide more wheels to do breaking, (3) the one after the locomotive is for crew safety.
@gunsaway12 жыл бұрын
He’s pulling the guts out of that 38
@BRYDN_NATHAN4 жыл бұрын
5:46 Nice #bird 👏👏👏 00:02:31
@redpilled35696 жыл бұрын
Are those cars that hold the Molten steel insulated? If you walk up to one are they hot on the outside?
@garysprandel18174 жыл бұрын
Lined with multiple layers of fire brick like used to line blast furnaces. They get hot,so hot if you see them moving at night there's a slight red glow to them.
@firemann574 жыл бұрын
They are so hot on the outside that if you are standing near the tracks, you will back off!
@kpdvw7 жыл бұрын
So how long can the liquid metal stay in the bottle cars before it needs to be emptied?
@kiwitrainguy7 жыл бұрын
If it's only 10 degrees F (or minus 12 Centigrade) they'd better be quick. But yeah, I'd like to know that too.
@firemann574 жыл бұрын
I think about 8 hours before they have to think about Plan B.
@laveturnerjones39543 жыл бұрын
if pig iron temperatures are good (1470/1540°c) you can leave them up to 12 hours at our plant. just need to punch thru the crust at the top then pour em out. with the lids they have here id say you get up to 18/24 hours of time before trouble starts
@eddieknox98747 жыл бұрын
whats the bowling pin for?
@PrinzII6 жыл бұрын
That bowling pin was where Dolton Lanes was located.
@philkarlin94934 жыл бұрын
What is train’s origin and destination?
@Gizmologist17 жыл бұрын
Why the empty cars between the bottle cars?
@kelvintorrence59944 жыл бұрын
They are not metal in those tank cars those cars keep them separate.
@kelvintorrence59944 жыл бұрын
There is,hot metal in those cars that s why the space between them.
@kleinerhalflife6 жыл бұрын
Is it dangerous?
@BillBlast73727 жыл бұрын
Why are the cars in between the bottle cars empty?? I guess they are called coal cars, but I'm not sure. Cool video, Thanks for sharing it.
@TINRFD7 жыл бұрын
hmm, maybe to distribute the weight better...those bottle cars must weigh a ton.
@ferky1237 жыл бұрын
To help distribute the weight on the track. The card are known as gondolas.
@marvinblankinchip25357 жыл бұрын
TINRFD .. Or several. lol
@muddyrebel27227 жыл бұрын
Weight restrictions on bridges and such they have the gondolas for spacers because the bottle cars are so heavy
@biguncle5546 жыл бұрын
Those are the cars for the hobos to ride on
@tibbers37557 жыл бұрын
I quote the engineer from tf2 : " *Heavy metal coming through!* "
@rosewhite---7 жыл бұрын
A UK steel cmpany tried this bottle car idea some years ago when British industry was being ruined by socialist government and th bottle cars were seen as a way of keeping two plants running. I don't know the economics of moving molten steel about but the UK operation was 60 mile distance between steel mill and rolling mill. www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?p=2494455
@kenshin8917 жыл бұрын
Yeah the distances in the US are nowhere near that for bottle cars. They're usually only used within the steel mill's internal network (i.e. the Cleveland Works Railway at the ArcellorMittal plant in Cleveland, OH). Over here in Cleveland, you never see CSX, NS or any other rail carriers outside the plant area hauling these
@pepedrat29827 жыл бұрын
Thatcher and the banks destroyed UK industry.
@bingola457 жыл бұрын
Thatcher sold it off to foreign interests, who then closed it. She had little choice; it was in an EU diktat.
@whiteknightcat7 жыл бұрын
Hah, you began videoing yourselves at 6:35!
@MrRubenrivera96497 жыл бұрын
in mill they r called piulater cars or submarine cars
@ralphaverill20014 жыл бұрын
Locomotive engine needs a re-build.
@JAMESMANHUNT97 жыл бұрын
lol the harbor belt crosses 47th street in lagrange
@donaldp92597 жыл бұрын
WOW! was that boring
@marshallallensmith7 жыл бұрын
EMD GP38-2
@agriculturemachinerychanne95743 жыл бұрын
Where is this place? England,USA, Ireland or Canada?
@jimihendrix991 Жыл бұрын
...yes
@kevinbraden94455 жыл бұрын
Or called Pugh ladles
@thatguyy75817 жыл бұрын
What’s the ID of it
@jcure7 жыл бұрын
I chassed this train part way cross town too!! with video
@adamwebb57067 жыл бұрын
What a great vid. I've never seen a carriage like that before. Why are they separated by the empty car?
@Tolono7 жыл бұрын
I'm not entirely sure why there are gondolas between them, but I've heard two theories: The first is to space out the cars so as to not exceed the weight limit of the track. You'll notice that the cars have two trucks at each end. This is because the steel they carry is very heavy. If the train has to cross a bridge, all that weight in one spot might damage the bridge, so the gondolas act as spacers to spread the weight more evenly across the bridge (or just normal track). The second theory is that since the molten metal is so hot, it might damage the track if the train was stopped for a long period of time. The gondolas space out the cars so the track doesn't get too hot. Again, I don't know if either of these are correct. But that's what I've heard.
@emma.j.nation7 жыл бұрын
I think it's more likely the weight concentration - if it was for the heat reasons, the track would still experience the same temperature, but in smaller areas, so if it was going to be damaged, it'd still happen, just more spread out. In my experience, the torpedo cars (as we call them in the UK) are very well lined/insulated so not a lot of heat escapes. What *does* cause damage is if the tipping gear fails and the torp rolls round and empties its contents by itself!
@georgejones29097 жыл бұрын
Spacer cars yes.
@firemann574 жыл бұрын
Spacers to spread weight.
@thomasmint17612 жыл бұрын
And yet despite this, Clemson continues to dominate Ohio St.
@phapnui7 жыл бұрын
Cut to the chase 5:40
@kiwitrainguy7 жыл бұрын
It's when the drone footage starts. Now I get it.
@briansokoloski776Ай бұрын
Excess Blue Smoke from Locomotive Must Need Engine Work
@kishascape2 жыл бұрын
Too much obstructed footage and useless B-roll that could be culled. Nice to see that they're using proper buffers though. I just watched the Mat Gun video of a ohio mill just coupling them straight.
@Amtrak902227 жыл бұрын
P5 ❤❤❤❤❤
@monsoonmangoes7 жыл бұрын
Which country is this ,
@ethanlamoureux53067 жыл бұрын
This is in the state of Illinois, USA.
@monsoonmangoes7 жыл бұрын
Ethan Lamoureux ..oh really.... My god I worked with a us company... TravelX ... will visit that wonderful land.... My dream... tell me most economical option to explore USA...
@ethanlamoureux53067 жыл бұрын
Not sure what’s the most economical option. But the fact is the US today is designed around cars, and if you want to travel and see the country, you almost have to drive, even though that can be difficult in a lot of places where the traffic is heavy. The good thing is that gasoline is cheap compared with most other countries, and most of the highways are free.
@BossSpringsteen697 жыл бұрын
way cool.
@kiwitrainguy7 жыл бұрын
But the metal is very hot !!!!!
@BossSpringsteen693 жыл бұрын
@@kiwitrainguy Ha ha.
@turdferguson78137 жыл бұрын
Allot of mills factories and plants are protected from videoing and posting pictures online by national security laws you best check and make sure it's ok for you to post this
@marvinblankinchip25357 жыл бұрын
Joshua Hardinger ... This doesn't appear to be any of the above.
@turdferguson78137 жыл бұрын
How did you check to be sure?
@ethanlamoureux53067 жыл бұрын
This is not a mill, factory or plant (nor manufactory, shop, works, or workshop, and it is none of those either.) Also I am not aware of any American law (regarding national security or otherwise) prohibiting photography of private property from a public place.
@artregeous6 жыл бұрын
such hard labor to produce all ppl still cant learn how to maintain And value their steel and metal products and respect steel industry ignorance is worst than rust
@retiredafce33737 жыл бұрын
NS locomotives are always in the worst condition. Every time I see them they are having issues.
@utubewatcher8067 жыл бұрын
That's local, switching-duty, so top-o-the-line is not used there. Most mainline locos I've seen running high-revenue freight are top-notch.
@ShainAndrews7 жыл бұрын
Certainly had a miss to it.
@rungcox48237 жыл бұрын
if you're talking about the smoke, it was 10º outside.
@kiwitrainguy7 жыл бұрын
lel lolololllololololol 1774 (and others) - 10 degrees F is minus12 degrees Centigrade.
@rosesmith6208 Жыл бұрын
Lava trains,
@williammielenz37524 жыл бұрын
Every one of these hot metal videos never shows the metal being loaded or unloaded! Click bait.
@Lost-In-Blank4 жыл бұрын
It is frustrating. There is one loading video that I came across though. For loading: Sadly what you see is the locomotive pushing the torpedo car into the side of the building containing the furnace and pulling it out. All the interesting stuff happens inside where you cannot see. I imagine unloading is something similar, happening inside a building.