Long Range Shooting with Black Powder {CVA Optima and Wolf} 340 yards

[@bubbacrabb]

Just my tip for guys shooting smoke poles. I keep a skoal can with patches soaked in windex to run between shots. The windex has ammonia and cleans well and dries fast between shots. I'm no pro but works for me.

[@2wheeleddemon999]

Did you write that on other video's?

[@bubbacrabb]

@@2wheeleddemon999 ya. I've been using windex soaked patches for a long time. Just think it's a good idea and wanted to share.

[@2wheeleddemon999]

@@bubbacrabb I'm going to have to try it. I'm new to muzzel loader and been trying to get the hang of everything. Bought my first one a few weeks ago and just got it sighted in at 100yds.

[@bubbacrabb]

@@2wheeleddemon999 it's good for between shots at the range and even when you're done. I always clean with ballistol when I get home. It's really good for muzzle loaders. It's a clp good for all guns. Always clean your muzzle loader after. They corrode quickly.

[@2wheeleddemon999]

@@bubbacrabb I was cleaning after 3 shots at first then after each one when I was dialing in on the bullseye. I used a dry patch then bore solvent followed by more dry.

[@randypritt2490]

people don't realize how accurate these in lines are when I go deer hunting people look at me and say where's your rifle I say I love my optima one shot one kill

[@mpdjr77]

“You owe it to the game to be accurate.” Awesome attitude. Much respect. Thanks for your fine video. Blessings, Grace and Peace 😊

[@kennethwarren4581]

You got to love this guy, he breaks everything down for you. Good video rob. I always revert back to this video right before black powder season!!!!!!!!

[@IceAngler]

As someone who is trying to get into muzzleloading I very much appreciate this content. Thanks friend.

[@adogmoore1247]

How many times u can shot b4 reloading it

[@dylankorpi137]

@@adogmoore1247 once. were you testing him or was this a question

[@PhilandAlex]

Great Shot Robert! I know this vid is a few years old, but it is still very relevant.

[@joshuabehnke6287]

this is the only channel where I actually get really excited to see what video gets posted and it doesn't matter what it is, its getting watched

[@bradddavis1790]

I have an Optima v2 and I've used Hornady, powerbelt and many different bullets and I have nothing against hornaday love their bullets use them in many different guns but I found that Barnes TMZ 290 grain with 150 grains of black powder are extremely accurate in my gun I've shot 200 yards with a Nikon 4x12 BDC reticle and it was deadly accurate and easily 2-inch groups two were touching,at 100 yards I have put 2 in the same hole several times.

[@bradddavis1790]

By the way that was some great shooting nothing wrong with that me personally didn't have that kind of accuracy with hornaday

[@Botsman7]

I love the way you transformed your presentations to be 'youtube friendly' !!! Way to go, don't give up, life is awesome and your channel must go on!

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[@harrycombs2724]

You are off the scale, insane crazy and that's what I love about your videos. Keepum coming!

[@MTTRON]

340 yards with a muzzle loader! WOW! LOL BTW I vote for some Ballistic Jelly shooting!!! God Bless You Brother! Awesome Video as usual!

[@NorrisdaBahia]

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[@ottomurumi1245]

Video at 15.41 minutes, just added the final humour required to complete a wonderful video and made my day..😀 I love what you do Rob.. Keep up the good work.. Lots of love and best wishes to you and your family for bringing happiness to millions of us, through your work.. Thank you sincerely..

[@deermeatfordinner]

otto murumi thank you so much!

[@ottomurumi1245]

deermeatfordinner, I thought, I would just leave you a message of my appreciation but your response was overwhelming.. A loud message goes out to everyone of how grounded you are, as a human being.. Keep up the good work again.. Your work makes my day complete.. Cheers.. 👍👍👍

[@adamhirerc78]

I've got an older model optima with tool style breech ,& long barrel been loving it for years now

[@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194]

Wow, over 300 yards. I'm impressed, very impressed.

[@marineimaging]

I have been on the line for the CVA Wolf for the past few months. YOU just convinced me to go for it.

[@2wheeleddemon999]

Bought mine from gander outdoors for $182 and just sighted it in yesterday. I love this rifle

[@broncossoccer]

Love this video. I have the same CVA optima with the flutter Bergara barrel. Absolutely love this gun. My longest kill is whitetail doe at 243 yards. I don’t have the Burris scope you have but I did my home work on the range and my shot was right on the money. Keep up the great work. I watch deer meat for dinner nearly everyday. I’m always amazed at how much we have in common.

[@billwheeler4343]

That was insane!! I was as stoked as you were at 300 yards. Now I know my muzzleloader is capable. I’d say 150-200 is my max where I hunt

[@mattgarner9767]

Just for reference for anyone that’s new to shooting and especially longer ranges. Never ever ever try to sight a rifle in on a super clean bore. Always foul the bore first then work your groupings and loads. Then clean if you want but you will need to foul it again before hunting. Most of my hunting rifles haven’t had the bores touched in here. My comp guns don’t get the bore cleaned until there’s enough fouling for groups to start opening. Then I’ll clean it and re foul before anything.

[@NEIL812]

You left out the 4th reason. It is a DMFD video, and your fans are here for it. Love your channel!

[@paulgerke5292]

One thing is for sure, I like his enthusiasm.

[@RicoLfoodguru59]

I like just watching your video so whatever you put up I will always enjoy watching your good videos 500 Bright Stars up

[@267stinger]

I enjoyed the video, made me extend the range on my ML rifles. I use 150 gr 777 powder out of my CVA Optima and get 2148 F/S with the same Hornady Monoflex bullet you are using. 2" hi at 100yd, 5" lo at 200yd. BH209 gets 2036 with max load with the Optima. My CVA Wolf w/ 150 Gr 777 powder is getting 2083 F/S and 6" lo at 200yds. Both with Remington ML 209 primers.

[@grubalaboocreosote4774]

Are you using ff or fff powder? I’ve found I can send a 350 gr projectile at 2500 fps with fff.

[@jhunter213]

Non of the above Rob, I just can't wait for you to post!!!! Thank you!!!!

[@deermeatfordinner]

John Hunter love y'all!!! Your comments are my motivation!

[@pimpdaddygar]

Thats some dam good shootin ..... i wouldnt mid seeing some ballistic gel tests

[@alanspring8462]

A lot of hunters that have no experience with muzzleloaders discount the power they have. I have a friend that has a 1858 Remington replica Buffalo with a 18-inch barrel, mind you they used to call them bison revolvers. And he is taking deer at 200 yards with this pistol.

[@christyler7391]

a guy in hartford NY named Dave Hicks shot a 20 inch target with 1896 muzzleloader at 800 and 1000 yards with open sights in 2003 at the world historical rifle long range championship. He looks like a true country hillbilly. The NRA paid his $50000 costs for trip

[@puremichiganprospecting8603]

Awesome man! Love your videos! I just bought my first muzzle loader today! I bought a CVA Wolf 209. I can’t wait to sight it in!

[@boomerrangerron]

Robert, thank you for this most interesting and informative shooting tips for obtaining black powder accuracy! I use pellets either Triple 7 or Pyrodex and I have a life time supply so I’ve yet to try they Buffalo 209 I’ve heard it burns cleaner too. I have an old custom Thompson Center with a Green Mountain barrel. It’s as accurate as any rifle I own including my Wheaterby’s! My problem is that it’s a bear to clean and takes 90 minutes to complete the job right so I usually only shoot it during muzzleloader season. I need to get one of these CVA Optimar. Keep up the great work. Love your channel!

[@HerbalistMax]

Very impressive, Robert! I didn't know Black Powder rigs were capable of that kind of accuracy at those ranges. Now I do... thanks!

[@dlobur123]

They shoot ml competitions with standard 120gr. Loads to 1000 yds

[@wildsideoutdoors5725]

his videos are the best part of my day!! Keep it up dude may God bless you

[@TheGrandSlayer]

I stopped by for the 4th reason: to support Robert Arrington & family because I love them 😛 don’t really care a lot about guns but I figure I can stop by and watch the video for y’all!

[@TheBurtle005]

Thanks to this video I just ordered my first muzzleloader. I went with the cva wolf. Once I get some practice in I’ll order the accura v2

[@garyhart9250]

I really enjoyed this good choice of topic .

[@laneanderson8162]

What a great video, informative, nearly perfect editing, and to the point with some extra entertainment thrown in. Thank you sir, I just bought an optima and can't wait to get to the range.

[@rbakken2999]

That is INSANE!!! Wow. Amazing to say the least. On the nuts at 300!!! I about crapped....

[@williamgames9125]

I got just as pumped as you did when you hit the 340 yard shot

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Outstanding. Really appreciate the attitude & atmosphere of the content. Well done. Enjoyed the range time also.

[@alexclawson4096]

You have to think about the minimum velocity for expansion to take place on those bullets. At that distance the bullet is going to be moving a lot slower. Find out how fast you're pushing those at the muzzle and the techs over at Hornady will tell you the maximum ethical shot you can make. I made charts for all of my cartridges.

[@ianb9703]

Mate...I am not a shooter, not even a hunter, but gee that was a very informative video. I just watch the channel because I love what you do and how you do it, keep up the great work champion..

[@nickcavanaugh9586]

you sold me a wolf today because of this video

[@kirksmith8393]

I couldn’t hit a barn door from 20 metres. You both have a great skill Kirk gloucester England

[@me__and__luna]

Hi i Look your Video in Germany The Time here now is 22:15. i love your Videos 👍🏼🤩🎣

[@afcamvet]

Or 4: us fans of yours have been following you for years

[@DMX-PAT]

If you ever find yourself looking at a CVA Apex at a gunshop, buy it!! It's the same as the MR/PR except it has an all stainless steel receiver and no nitride coating, plus the barrels are interchangeable with other Apex barrels chambered in centerfire calibers.

[@joakesTV]

That was fun. You're the best, Rob.

[@michaelpiscopo3199]

Awesome video. Here in New England it's rare to go out more than 100 yds with the smokepoles, and a lot of folks are leaving the multiround shotguns at home for the precision a rifle delivers. Due to almost complete clearcut of our favorite hunting grounds, we find ourselves looking at deer from 200, 250 yards and leary to try thhose shots with our guns sited in at 100 yds. So, our winter project was to visit a neighboring club with a 300 yd range (100 yds is the max most everywhere here) to "experiment" with going out further. This video is inspiring and answered a lot of questions in that regard. Thankyou!

[@williamhearst2362]

Just bought a CVA Wolf 50 for $120! Nice gun! Thanks Mr/ D M D!

[@harrisonmccullough1183]

I killed a cow elk at 329 yards with my Optima. 150 grain pyrodex and 250 grain Hornady SST. I couldn't get any closer with out spooking the heard. She went straight down. I was amazed at what you were doing with 86 grains and a 250 grain sabo. I remember when you shot at a dirt bank.

[@deermeatfordinner]

Harrison McCullough 329 yard shot is amazing with any load!!! I believe 86 grains of blackhorn is pretty close to 150 grains of pyrodex. I measure by weight, not volume. By volume is about 115 grains.

[@WilliamHowardAlloway]

All his videos are great, I think I'm your biggest fan I watch his videos at least 7-8 times when they first come out and some day I'll be first to view crossed fingers but I've cooked alot of meals from his videos too Thanks Bill Alloway

[@rodneyhanbaum697]

I'm a brand new subscriber, Definitely not new to shootin or muzzleloader, that being said, I just switched to BH209 last year and I really like it! I have not tried nothing that long range, but that was excellent!! Great job! Thank you! Really APPRECIATE YOU!

[@garyc8208]

Ok Rob...now I want a Muzzle Loader like that one! Never would have believed it would shot that well. Good Job!

[@billylee2312]

Thanks for getting excited!!

[@saisaizaw]

You have really good shooting brother

[@scorpion5700]

I’ve harvested more deer with the wolf than any other rifle.

[@Stating_the_obvious69]

I like watching your videos because you get just excited as I would if I did that and it just feels real makes me want to go out and try but I've never done anything like that before so it's hard finding a way into that type of community

[@robertofranco5648]

I love your videos! Thanks

[@woodynorris3544]

Great vid, i really like how enthusiastic he is!

[@michiganman4801]

Hey no more ice tee. Your a savage lol. Good shooting. I'm considering a wolf.

[@3Bluetick]

Great video by someone who knows what he is talking about.

[@chriswooten7]

It is wonderful to know your weapon. I have an FX Impact in .25 caliber (high end precharged air rifle) that I can hit a 16x20 inch gong with consistently, even in pretty high wind. It is tuned to shoot Nielson 29.5 grain swaged hollowpoints at 935 FPS. They have a ballistic coefficiency of about .089.

[@chriswooten7]

Sorry, lol.....I'm an idiot. The range is 320 yards

[@danielcollins9850]

I've been looking at a new Optima to replace my old CVA, I've been racking my brain wondering if that was the new muzzleloader I wanted and now I'm completely at ease. Those look like awesome shooting guns. Thanks for the video I don't put a lot stock in most videos I watch but I'm very impressed with how both your guns shoot. Stay safe and God Bless.

[@kevinroberson1985]

I have a CVA optima and have had it since they came out and I have made some amazing shots with it and I only use triple 7 powder in pellets and in grain form and with the loose powder I took a volume powder charge measure and weighed the powder and now I use a powder scale and weigh every load the same weight and put it in powder tubes and it makes a world of difference way better accuracy and always stay with the same 209 primers because mixing them up will shoot different and your bullets will hit in different spots by using all kinds of brand's of primers so stay with one type of primers like triple 7. 209 primers or CCI primers or what ever you like the best but primers of different brands of manufacture are hotter and some not as hot and that's got a lot to do with bullet impacts they will mess with your accuracy I found that out just target shooting I had three different brands of primers and my bullets hit in three different areas on the target so I said I better stay with one type of 209 primers. And the same with my sabots and bullets also and powder charge

[@factdesignbr]

Ballistic gell! I got into actually shooting and not only collecting muzzle loader cos of you! There are some amazing brands in europe!!! They started it all anywayd haha God bless Rob!

[@rodolfocarra5841]

The eliminator is a difference maker. I would love to own one of those. It takes the second guessing out of the equation.

[@danielcurtis1434]

FYI both blackhorn 209 and triple 7 are 70 grains by weight to 100 per volume. So a bit less dense. It seems from observation people limit themselves with blackhorn to 80 grains by weight 110 grains by volume. However triple 7 gets increases up to 150 grains by volume or about 105 grains by weight. So for triple 7 105 grains for blackhorn it’s 80. You can use more without safety issues but you get little if any velocity, more recoil and accuracy suffers.

[@chrissmith-le9lx]

Such a lucky guy to be able to do the things you do love your content rob 👍🏻

[@billymcdaniel4855]

That's absolutely an insane shot, wow. Love all the video's.

[@shaneglover99]

My man always delivers the best videos. Awesome job bro

[@jeraldprice234]

Awesome video and awesome shot just picked up a optima can't wait to stretch it out

[@drewlosch]

ABSOLUTELY, F'ING AMAZING Video!

[@nakedbeachrider8798]

Its not the dirty barrel causing more bullet drop. Its the breech plug getting fouled and blocking some fire from the primer cap causing slower burn rate. To truly test accuracy you have to clean the breech plug after 1 or 2 shots. Just poke it with your cleaning wire. Also CVA has special breech plugs for the powder vs pellets and they work best. Love the muzzleloader vids Rob.

[@MrKokemachine]

I notice you have the original breech plug. I have a CVA Wolf too. I was told that you needed a special Black Horn 209 breech plug to run that powder so I purchased one. The powder is awesome. It doesn't look like you had any trouble with ignition with the original plug, though. Great vid.

[@bryanbrowning2226]

Another great video. Never thought about getting a muzzle load rifle before but after watching this video, you have inspired me to get one. Thanks.

[@nariman351]

its a sad truth that lonely men achieve great things and in this case rob keeps uploading videos for us everyday while his wife and kids are away , not even mad .

[@exploreoutdoors3978]

Nariman H hahahaha 👌

[@marap0p]

john doe absolutely true... My kid and wife drives me crazy if I spend 24/7 with them... It's not like I don't love my family but I need my own time once in awhile... Keep rocking rob. And good day to you all

[@Henry-ys7tw]

AND IF U WASH HIS VIDEOS HES MOSTLY WHIT HIS FAMILY COOKING BBQ DEER FISH OTHER MEATS AND U DIDN'T SEE THE CAMERA GUY HES NOT ALONE AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT EITHER LOL

[@joshuaforbus5853]

All of the above. Nice and thank you

[@danielcurtis1434]

Get an optima V2 pistol!!! It’s a perfect addition to your collection. It seems to have the performance of a .454 cassul with 100 grains and heavy pills. It’s been used on cake buffalo. It’s the black powder .500 magnum!!!

[@rush2124u2]

It's good to know the limits of your gun. Good one

[@mrbtraveler6750]

Hey guys, the Greek father Gus (Michael Constantine) in "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" has been using Windex for many years and cleaned just about everything, see comment-bubbacrabb-below, LOL!!! Great video though, in explaining, to especially people who are thinking about getting into M.L. the safety, the use of this kind of firearm/accessories & the rifle like accuracy.Cameraman working with you did a great job in assisting your presentation, steady and well composed!

[@John5209]

Folks, the Brits shot on a 1 000 yard range near London, about where the famous tennis tournament stadium, is now. ( the name escapes me at the moment. ) The .50 BP Gibbs rifle was quite a popular rifle, shot from the Creedmore position! The Gentry and Military types used to travel out from London and other towns in their horse carriges to watch the shooting matches. My .44 cal replica "Civil War" Colt is quiet potent at 50m on a steel plate. I have taken small antelope like Reedbuck and Duiker with it, much to the surprise of other hunters. Also took a Black Backed Jackal at about 42m . Load was 40gr FFFG powder and a 125gr lead ball. Family farm in the Orange Free State in South Africa.

[@johnmagnusson9289]

Well presented and I enjoy the banter.

[@alanspring8462]

I'm going to buy a Connecticut valley wolf this afternoon. Love your great attitude and the excitement you Express. Just subscribed 💙

[@russellehrgood9835]

Great video, very explanatory! Perked my interest in muzzleloaders.

[@qtievicky]

Such a great video Rob! Loved seeing how excited you are about those 300+ yards. I would love to see you make a video with Matt from Demolitionranch

[@JIBREAL1967]

Awesome!!! Absolutely awesome.

[@oddmunddale806]

I did not know shit about muzzleloaders last summer. Watch this video and buy what you are using the Optima, blackhorn 209, Fiocchi primers (they are a little bigger) and Hornady 250 grs. Went to the range and shot 2" group at 200 yards. I went out hunting for 2 days on public land in Delaware. One 9 pointers first day 160 yards neck shot and an 8 pointer next day neck shot 70 yards. Give the deers to hunters for hungry. Sold everything and moved back to Europe. Thanks!

[@strokedmule3838]

Awesome video! I’m a big fan of the CVA stuff and this just shows they make a quality firearms! This is a great reminder that you have to shoot clean and dirty to know your rifle. Some prefer a dirty barrel while others prefer a clean barrel. Same two rifles often times will shoot different. Great video and yes by all means shoot some ballistic gel and pop some melons at those distances!

[@77mickman]

Or 4, this is one of my fav channels and my views=your money and I think you deserve every bit of it man. You're a great American man and men should strive to be you lol

[@niggayounasty6638]

Enjoy life to the fullest Thanks Robert!

[@ditchdigger93]

That cleaning procedure may very well work with that Blackhorn powder, which I can't find or can justify the price of it even if I could, and some say it is non-corrosive, or at least less corrosive than other black powder replacements, but it sure won't work with Pyrodex or even Tripple 7. I've cleaned very well, with solvents made for the job and in just a few days you can run a patch through the bore and get light rust. Even though I also use Wonder Lube after I get it as clean as possible. Even with many trips through the bore with a phosphor bronze brush you can never really get all of the fouling out of the rifling. What I tell anyone that asks is check that bore about once a month and retreat it as needed. Probably the one biggest cause of the death of a good muzzleloader is less than adequate cleaning. I don't pretend to be the expert in the field, but I've got three of them. All inlines from CVA and none are immune to rust. Nothing breaks my heart more than finding a nice muzzleloader in a pawn shop somewhere with the barrel nearly grown shut with rust and old white fouling. Most if not all of the time the action is junk too and the breach plug is no longer removable. If I can ever find one with a good workable action, I'd like to bore the barrel out on one and make me a small-bore shotgun out of it.

[@prostreetcamaro]

BH is well worth the price to me. WAY less corrosive and doesn't really absorb moisture. Been using it since day one. Can shoot over and over again no problem.

[@patrickian8843]

Great video. That 240xtp looks lethal, especially at 150 yards.

[@jerrylittle8922]

CVA would be proud of you! 👍

[@rutt1975]

awesome video Rob

[@turkeymanmcgee8231]

Hornady in my CVA wolf. Accurate as hell with 3 triple 7 powder pellets. Great video! Makes me wanna try mine out to 200.

[@biggameslayer3782]

turkeymanmcgee 82 with using 3 pellets should hit 200 no problems, specially with a lighter bullet like 200 grains

[@samuelquintana8442]

Your videos are awesome !!

[@paultrimble9390]

Hell yes. That’s some good shooting. And them few fast follow up shots might have some little high for that. But one should always put in the work and do several tries there self. Because only u know ur own limits and experience. Thanks for ur time and $ to make these video’s for us. Stay safe and keep the lead on target 🎯. From ur ole hillbilly buddy.

[@ChangLee-y5t]

Shot muzzle loader over 300 many times, its a .50 cal slug moving supersonic they are capable of 600 yards all day😊

[@applejack120]

Thank you for the lesson and the entertainment.

[@jordankim6722]

Deermeatfordinner are going to do throw back Thursday

[@adanavalos3454]

Never thought about using two different targets at once for sighting in. I usually shoot close up and then reposition the target further and further away. Good info, thanks!

[@OneShotWunder]

Great shoot robert. My name is mike and am from ohio but move to nebraska 9 years ago. I am 28 and have nerver hunted before. I have been wanting to for a couple of years now so this year i decided to get my hunter ed license and i just passed it last week. So hope i can hunt muzzleloader season and get my first deer. Love the vids keep up the good work.

[@hblegal8309]

First and foremost great video!! I understand the drop from a dirty barrel as it makes sense. Your first shot at 300 yards was dead nuts on and again, great job. When you shot at 322 yards for the second it was 4.5" low and dropped even more on the third shot as the barrel got dirtier. Shots 2 and 3 were at 322 yards and you can see the drop. I would not conclude that it was about a 7" inch drop for a dirty barrel exclusively from shots 1 & 3. The other factor to consider is the target was moved from 300 yards to 322 yards for shots 2 & 3. Shots 2 & 3 were both shot at the same range and you make a great point. To what degree the 22 yards added to the drop from shot 1 to 2, I would have no idea as it was a clean barrel to a dirty barrel and a dirtier barrel for the third shot. Once again, a great video with good information that I appreciated from you. Thanks!

[@saltymenfishing1275]

Hey thanks for making this video I'm a new hunter from new Jersey and we can't hunt with rifles only shotgun and muzzle loader I only thought the can shoot 100 yards tops can't wait to buy a cva now

[@deermeatfordinner]

Billy Kapsis these loads are spot on! Have fun!!!

[@walterostrander9085]

Oh Heck Yeah Brotherman! I save up my scratch ticket winnings to buy my weapons, I am close to getting the CVA Wolf. Your vids charge me up! Thank You!