LONG-TERM REVIEW - Orbea Rise Super-light Electric Mountain Bike

[@vitalmtb]

Video Contents 0:00 - Intro :58 - Orbea Rise Models and Pricing 2:34 - Shimano EP8 RS Motor 3:09 - Tire Upgrade 3:40 - Tester 1 Impressions, Amanda Wentz 6:03 - Tester 2 Impressions, Brad Howell 8:33 - Climbing Performance 9:55 - Shimano e Tube app Tuning the Rise 11:24 - Rise Compared to Kenevo or Levo SL 13:22 - Rise Strengths 14:26 - Rise Weaknesses 17:49 - Riding with Motor Turned Off

[@ceriway380]

I'm interested in the Rise but worried about the size,,I am 5'9" so the medium should fit ?? , I have ridden the large but the stand over is high and cranks a little long , how good a fit was it for you.

[@torsteinberteig8951]

What size did Amanda ride and what's her height/inseam?

[@TWARDOWSKY.]

How to crack the 85Nm?

[@oliverbourne9599]

This is the type of comprehensive quality review of a bike that us riders want. Extremely informative all the way through. Awesome !

[@resetbikes2265]

Yip this is top stuff

[@th_js]

Great review. Just a suggestion, but could you include metric measurements as well, so us non-Americans can understand what you are talking about?

[@bwcdesign]

Great review... so much so I bought a 2022 without riding one. Every granular aspect covered in this review I've found to be true. I did go with the H15, for two reasons. 1. price point & 2. Suspension. I did switch rubber to a 2.6 dhf WT 3c exo and 2.5 Agressor WT exo. Our backyard in Truckee is alot like the Reno peavine test area in this vid, with a plethora of volcanic rocks. This tire combo set up tubless works amazing. I'm coming off a Hightower which I love, until now... this chassis is spot on for aggressive trail riding. I could not be happier. Quick background on me. age 61 been on mtbs since 1981, I'm an average climber and above average descender. The Rise offers a uphill flow opportunity without being constantly in the Red. Life is too short to be on sub par recreational equipment! Anyone thinking about a Rise... I'd say go for it! Well done again and thank you!

[@TheCtrudo]

This is the most helpful review of this bike I’ve seen. Really well done. Thank you!

[@resetbikes2265]

I agree

[@crislee4057]

Perfect, this is THE best & most thorough review of the RISE out there, YAH! One might add: the H-Series is Aluminum, weights a tiny tad more BUT comes even with a bigger battery, the display as a standard and at an even less price! Basically even more astonishing...!

[@drewbarton3364]

I've watched a lot of bike reviews, both standard and e-bike at this point, and I have to say this is the most comprehensive and clear review I've ever seen. Very well done guys

[@azonicds]

Stop exiting me!! Lol Placed an order the other day for an M20 with dpx2 and a 36. It's expensive yes, but after a problem with my heart this will be perfect for me to get out in the woods exploring again, so well worth it for me. Awesome review, thanks!

[@SWFlowseeker]

You will love it. Congrats

[@azonicds]

@@SWFlowseeker Sounds promising, but the waiting time seems crazy as of now.

[@KurtRWalker]

I LOOOOOVE mine.

[@robmccall5017]

Expect the Best! And compared to Specialized its not expensive!

[@jap7856]

Key phrase was power-to-weight ratio, the Orbea Rise is prefect example of what manufacture can product. In the future manufacture will allow customers to order how much Nm power and battery size, which will allow a customer to customize the weight of the eMTB. Some riders want a 40lbs eMTB and others will want 50lbs eMTB. My eMTB is 54lbs and I have no issues with the weight, I am just getting more of a upper body work out:)

[@jap7856]

Norco takes the 1st step, by allowing a customer to pick what size battery they will want to use on the new VLT eMTB line:)

[@matth8924]

In 10-20 years ebikes are going to be insane. Imagine an ebike that weighs only a few pounds more than it's analog counterpart, and batteries that last 5x longer than they currently do.

[@adrianhrusca4067]

Chances are that in 10-20 yrs I'll be insane...and to old to use an ebike😆

[@Plasmo20]

@@bfranco1519 I was trying to do the same. Then along came the Orbea Rise....... Im in my 60s and all the guys n gals in the ride group cut over to EMTBs, it was hard chasing back on every time and feeling crap about holding back the bunch. Now, I/we have fun racing up the hills again like in our 40s.

[@claytonprice7833]

Awesome Longterm Review... I sell the Orbea Rise in NZ and have been riding my M10 for a few months now. The Levo SL was my go too bike until now. Elevation and giving it a nudge determines the battery range on this beast, from 30km to 65km in trail mode (43nm).

[@downhillgroovy]

I heard another KZbinr say that the Boost mode feels like a Trail mode of a full size EP8 which is perfect because thats the mode im usually in!

[@wgnwheels333]

Awesome review am in my early 60s and yep pedaling up hills doesn't get any easier I don't mind putting in the effort and keeping fit but sometimes it's a bit to hard.I hope that this is the start of a new type of ebike.just not interested in a full on model . waiting to see how other brands respond .And yes I want one

[@mamalovesthebeach437]

I'm 66. I have a 500w, EMTB with a throttle. I'm looking for a lighter, more nimble bike with better geometry and a truer mountain bike experience. This bike is AMAZING!! I tried an extra-large frame and it still felt great. Trying a medium in two days...the price tag is the only thing that makes me hesitate...

[@RickyG225]

@@mamalovesthebeach437 Perhaps buy the entry level aluminum model to save a few bucks @ $5299.00 US. Good riding!

[@RickyG225]

I am in my early 60s riding a Haibike eMTB with the Yamaha PW-X. Looking for a super lightweight with more nm of torque than the 60nm this one has. Also waiting to see others compete with this model as well. Just have to be patient. Cheers mate!

[@ianfurqueron5850]

E-Bikes keep getting better every year. At this rate, there will be a bike with similar traits for a few grade less in a couple of years - which might be about when I'll be ready to buy one. Maybe.

[@HannyDart]

same!

[@th_js]

@@HannyDart Good name

[@paulmaag6958]

I have 700 mikes on my Rise M10. This is the best bike I have ever had (this is my 19th over 38 years of MTB). What a bike! The frame is amazing. It rides so nimble. I sold my 2020 50 lb. carbon full fat e-bike for this bike. This is so much better. This review is spot on accuracy!

[@mamalovesthebeach437]

So good to hear from experience, thanks! I'm a VERY green newbie to MTB...I have an EMTB but looking to get a second for a better real trail experience. I'm a bit embarrassed to even consider such an amazing bike when I have so little skill...

[@dft1]

what bike did you have?

[@InfectAion]

Its a Penis Enis 600 Pro

[@mamalovesthebeach437]

I have a 500w Pedigo Ridge Rider EMTB. My husband has a Sondors EMTB and a Scott Genius EMTB. I'm 66 and have just begun riding this summer. l was looking for a second (backup) bike and found the Orbea Rise. I tested an extra-large frame (I'm 5'5") and the geometry is SO much better than my husband's (he's 6'2") Scott extra-large! We had the bike shop ship the only medium frame from one of their other shops to our local shop for me to try...I'll take it for a spin on Thursday. My husband is ready to buy it for me today but I just can't get past the $11,000 + $1,000 tax price tag, UGG!! I'm a true-blue beginner and LOVING the trails but not sure how technical I'm going to get starting out at my age. Once you've ridden this bike it's very difficult to go back to the heavy beasts out there...my bike is about 55 lbs...I weigh 117...It's nearly half my weight! DO NOT TEST THIS BIKE unless you plan to be disappointed with every other bike you test after...thanks for a great review!

[@jessdyba]

Have had my M20 for about 3 weeks now....amazing bike. Hitting Tarbell trail (WA) in about an hour....

[@drewbarton3364]

...because you're cheating ;)

[@jessdyba]

@@drewbarton3364 ....and your point is?

[@drewbarton3364]

@@jessdyba uhhh...you're cheating?

[@drewbarton3364]

@@jessdyba haha, thought you were saying the ride was taking you an hour to complete, but maybe you were saying you are going to do the ride in about an hour, lol

[@SWFlowseeker]

It’s a fantastic do it all bike!! Coming from a Levo SL expert. The Moto clunks are the only flaw in my opinion. I bought mine with the display…need that I think. Very accurate review of the Rise

[@pedroalmeida7456]

hi, considering this bike. this you bought the 34 140mm or 36 150mm?

[@SWFlowseeker]

@@pedroalmeida7456 36….150

[@pedroalmeida7456]

@@SWFlowseeker thanks!

[@brianwilliams2907]

I run a Garmin 830 on all my bikes and with this you can get any info you want about the battery status, range, mode, etc.

[@bighapprm]

After this review... I bought the Rise M20. Thank you and great information 👍

[@lokmtb8503]

Save Ferris!!!!! Love that band and love the long term review.

[@2004RS4]

Man… you guys pretty much have me sold. I don’t go for crazy technical descents, so don’t need a heavy duty rig, or the weight it comes with. I just need a little help managing the climbs, which sounds like that’s what this bike is all about. I mean if this gets me out on the trail more often, instead of me avoiding riding because I’m dreading climbs, distance or keeping up with my fitter friends… why not?

[@Phonophobia]

Been riding a MY20 Levo SL (nothing stock except the carbon wheels) for a year now and people hate me for it after they've ridden it. It's the perfect symbiosis imo, can't imagine how it feels with +25Nm... Really curious to ride the Rise ever since it was announced. Same with the Forestal

[@66spacemonkey66]

Great review, and has helped me (at the age of 57) wade through the very thick custard of e-bike choice out there. I’m currently riding a Dartmoor Hornet which is a superb, fun ride…..unless going up steep hills 😬

[@twoweeledsoto6072]

What an excellent review! Could not be better.

[@wsl5585]

Thanks for the feedback on the moto trails and trying it without assist. Where I live moto trails are different from mtb trails. It has been one of my unanswered questions if you can get back on a e-bike if the assist stopped.

[@superawesomefuntimego]

If I was in the market for a E-Bike, the Rise is the only one out there that interests me as the weight, build and power is in the sweet spot. Too bad they are illegal on almost all my local trails, so it will be a while before I consider one.

[@vitalmtb]

yeah, trail access is a tough one in a lot of places. we end up riding off-road moto trails for the most fun! not sure if you have trails like that in your area.

[@nsro3837]

Luckily the trail snobs won't recognize this as an ebike.. The anti ebike laws shouldn't apply to bikes like this.. It is pure prejudice

[@stellvia21]

where do you live ? oO

[@superawesomefuntimego]

@@stellvia21 Live in Washington State

[@alphakilo7005]

@@superawesomefuntimego I live here too, and ride a full power E bike anywhere I want…don’t let the haters keep you from enjoying your life.

[@and2244rew]

Hoping more brands copy this as a concept.

[@justwannachillwithya]

No MUSIC! Loved this video.

[@carlbeese2059]

you should definitly try it as a mullet with a coil shock and 160mm front and rear !

[@darrisnelson5223]

Even your 66 year old MTB mom can pick it up…and she did, and she does, and she’s having a blast!🤣🚴‍♀️

[@kelvynbettridge]

Loving these RISE reports its so tempting since Specialized tinkered with Gen 3 Geometry

[@Plasmo20]

SOooo glad I just nabbed a 2022 M20 lightly used for 1/2 price. Fox 36 150 up front, 4 piston brakes. Gonna move my 2.5 ASSAGAI off my Trek Fuel 9.8 onto the Rise and thats about it. Didnt realise just how good the reviews were. I didnt want an eMTB because they seem heavy and really like cheating, the Rise salves my ego in that it can be ridden with the power off and still climbs quite well, so I dont have a range Anxiety ether. Will have to get m head into the tuning setup on the E-Tube software though as the previous owner had all the settings really really low. cheers

[@5123rick]

We do alot of trail riding and I've always been a non ebike guy . Now the kids are coming out for rides and I'm either waiting for them or trying to pull them up the climbs I'm thinking this bike is the answer!!

[@Petr388]

I ordered my custom Orbea Rise M-LTD with the best it can offer - FOX 36, stiffer wheels, Minion DHF/DHR II and custom gold/black paint. Cannot wait to see it!But dunno how long will it take, ordered it back in May, hope it comes this year, but not sure...

[@robmccall5017]

Why didnt You go for the M20 then? With the Components You changed the LTD is exactly the same weight as the M20, we measured the LTD at16.8 kilos to 17.8 in my M20! The one kilo is the Fork and the Shock plus the smaller Breakdiscs. All other Components are equal.

[@Petr388]

@@robmccall5017 well but i have carbon saddle :D I did not compared all the alternatives, I just saw te highest spec option and went for it....i guess it does not matter after all....

[@robmccall5017]

@@Petr388 agreed!

[@rudik5496]

Great test and vid! (Bonus points for the noise effects of motor clack and surge motor noise! ;-) )

[@reyv4242]

Excellent review. Best review for Orbea Rise specially comparing with Specialized electric levo. Having thoughts of getting one, been a long time if I should get an electric bike but always having 2nd thoughts because most of them are heavy and the lightest one cost close to $10k like the Specialized. Comes along the Orbea Rise . . . it is a game changer.

[@RickyG225]

Agreed: A lot of bang for your buck with the Orbea aluminum entry level model

[@GedandMichele]

Got an M20 on order for September. Glad I've got my Cube to make the wait just a little more bearable till then.Great balanced review

[@Gufolicious]

I have the M-Ltd in raw carbon and i ride every fucking day since i got it. I cant stop i wont stop :D If you got the money boys this is everything you can imagine!!

[@Ferrara666]

I am not comment so often but this review I feel I need to do it. Great great review. I saw lot of hard work. You shown all pros and cons. It was nice spending time and I found a tons of information which I cannot find on any others reviews. I decided I will go for h10 for sure and my Kellys gate 90 hardtail will be for bike packing and orbea for fun and commute ;) and tbh I don’t care if someone wil look at me like a wierdo crossing the flat town on full e-bike 🤡 Thanks for your job. I will add to subscribe your channel. Kudos to you and your team !❤

[@edarnold99017]

Best bike review ever!!!!!

[@fatdaddiesride2868]

For the local Boise crew, would love to know which trails these are. Seems like not too many emtb approved options in local trail system.

[@BertineFamily]

Excellent review format!

[@norbertschmied8976]

Can you share the settings you landed on in the customized Profile 2? I've been playing with mine and am curious how close I am to yours.

[@robmccall5017]

Same here! 🙏

[@motooilermotooiler9597]

Well this just a little bit lighter than 1st gen focus Jam2 tipping the scales at 21kgs. With proper software tweaking this older bike is a gem at less than 1/2 price. Not taking anything from Orbea. Great review. Thanks.

[@InfectAion]

Hows your jam2 going? 😂💀

[@motooilermotooiler9597]

@@InfectAion until I had it it was great. Only niggle was the smallish battery. The fatso tires were great on descents but the bike was a slug at flats and general kilometre eating. Sold it the beginning of this year and bought Orbea H15 - could not be happier, maybe the empty pockets hurt a bit :) :)

[@ejkourie5817]

Thanks Dude , sweet review , definitely gonna get one , 1st ebike , thanks again 👍

[@-ewen]

I bought an Orbea Rise M10 with the Vault hub. After 8mths and limited rides I was getting a loud pinging noise from the rear hub. On inspection I found that the teeth on the Vault hub were rounded along with the pawls. Clearly the hub is not fit for purpose on an ebike and I do not understand why Orbea are fitting standard mtb components on ebikes!!! The loads incurred on an ebike rear hub are massive compared to that of a conventional bike. So at considerable expense (£450) I have changed out my rear hub to DT Swiss who actually make ebike compatible hubs.

[@bogdangrigorbranding]

The only thing is...weight (body weight) is a total killer when it comes to battery life so I would say the range test against the specialized bikes is not super conclusive but still quite impressive numbers from the Rise.

[@RadioReprised]

My every day bike weighs 40lbs with tools and water! (Polygon D-7) So even with no assist it would be like normal?! Awesome!

[@MTBrVK]

great review! on point plus plain spoken

[@meho1010]

I don't get why reviewers still quote range in miles instead of elevation gain.

[@victor-emmanuel7485]

Oh boy the prices of these bikes are crazy 😅 I naïvely thought transfering from enduro motorcycles (ktm300exc) to emtb would be a lot cheaper… but they are even more expensive!

[@brettchambers1554]

Thanks for the vid man. Any tips on where to get a replacement EP8 RS motor or battery for the '23 H10?

[@pizzagorgonzola4699]

i wish Orbea builds a few extra factories so that we don't have to wait 8 months

[@ggaattzz]

Great review! 👍👍

[@DaleBaldwin]

Is the Kenevo SL the right bike to be comparing this to? The tests I've seen the SL Kenevo doesn't get the same range as the SL Levo which is kinda expected considering it's a heavier Enduro focused bike with longer travel, this thing seams more comparable to a trail bike which I would expect to get better peddaling performance.

[@mikebeal1022]

I didn’t hear anything about elevation gain in your rides. That’s an important factor when your talking range for the bike.

[@balduroreyjolfsson7853]

Awesome video. Thank you :-)

[@07BLUESTI]

Does this bike emit EMF radiation? Also can you turn off Bluetooth on the bike to limit EMF exposure?

[@benwahhhh]

These bikes prices have so much risen that now it s better buying a forestal cyon or syrion which is lighter and have a really dedicated motor (1.7kg) still 60nm and 360w but with 150 or 170mm travel!

[@sgtkurry]

Just got my M10 but havent been able to ride because of weather.

[@darrenwilliams6827]

If I was to change my levo this is what I'm going for

[@cyork2]

save Ferris - nice review, thank you

[@scottbriggs884]

How is that seat tube length? I’m about the same size 5’9” and a 31” inseam. I want the 170 length dropper that you can spec on the site. Will that be too long?

[@ANTheWhizkid]

The review was super interesting to watch. But I guess I will never become an ebike guy.

[@esasias8588]

Is there a preferred way to either message you directly about questions or concerns about this bike? I have been a rider for a few years now and i've been wanting to get into ebike. But I am dumb when it comes to these and was wondering if you could help me out with questions, concerns or if you know of a good bike to fit my needs, as I have physical issues and etc.. one of the specialized bikes you were comparing to I was looking at in the shops and they weren't very informative about it. But, I was looking at the 8k version not 13k. Because my budget is pretty bleak haha. And I think you said this is a 29er, I ride 27.5 is it an option to go 27.5? Or is it better to go 29er and how much different in feel would it be to go from 27.5 to 29? If it helps i'm on a rocky mountain thunderbolt I think i'm 140 front 130 rear it's a trail/enduro and I want to get an equivalent ebike to what mine is or upgrade. My biggest concern is how much power I can get to help with climbing (my weakness) so I'd like more than less.. but I don't understand the finer details of battery and output. But, I would get the range extender for sure maybe not at first. But, i'm also afraid of losing my nimbleness I currently have.. but if there's a better way to discuss all my questions as this is just a few things please let me know

[@vitalmtb]

hit the review on our website and leave a comment. we can help you there - www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/E-Bikes,111/Orbea/Rise-M-Team,31916#product-reviews/4062

[@InfiniteVibration]

Someone make a high pivot gearbox emtb. Where the high sprocket is connected to a gearbox. Thanks

[@david029014]

You never mentioned the horrible way to adjust motor power, the buttons are on a cable, not on the handle bar.

[@dasanoneia4730]

great review if i had it i would have it

[@MisterPikol]

Would this do as a commuter bike ?

[@DanTheMan_75]

Is my Rail for sale? 🤔

[@felicetanka]

I like Orbea.

[@rezenclowd3]

Now I want the Kenevo SL, a more enduro/DH bike, but with more torque and a touch lighter! I personally would not buy a small travel 150mm E-Bike.

[@alstar300]

Kenevo SL does not have more torque nor is it lighter than the Rise in this video. I ride with a few, and they are nice bikes, but not nearly the all arounder the Rise is, not even close

[@rezenclowd3]

@@alstar300 correct, my request to specialized is to have more torque but still small battery like rise. Have the ksl as well here. Tough to be honest I have the SL de-tunedin the app

[@Kstaples42]

Is a Small Orbea too big for me if I was only 160cm, any suggestions on what size dropper post please as well?

[@Kstaples42]

Oh and great review, thanks!

[@trkoo]

They need to install the different tires. That's propobably why

[@tomaszmichewicz7867]

This battery will last the whole day on the trial ??

[@59trevski]

Awesome review 🤟

[@86309]

What category is the bike, 4 or 3?

[@ocdmods4992]

150mm dropper on that bike?

[@Leowavekid]

why limit the motor to 60NM when its capable of 85 in the same body!

[@IDoBlues]

Great review. I LOVE my Rise. I'm on the side of appreciating the stealth e-look too. I forget I'm even on an eBike on the descents. If you get one, and it has an e*Thirteen carbon crank, make sure to add some red (not blue) Loctite to the spindle screw or your crank might fall off (mine did along with many others). Here's my review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6TIqH2sqMl-gZo

[@faraz2498]

Yep, mine fell off the last time I rode, could of been a disaster but luckily it wasn't

[@resetbikes2265]

Watched this a few times now - will power is needed not to press buy.

[@silverpantsblue.1780]

you talk about that additional battery as if it doesn't add 10lbs to this orbea.

[@andrewgreenwood8727]

Can you put a 150 zeb on the Rise ?👌

[@Vanadium]

How about the Rothwild R.X375 almost same weight?

[@robmccall5017]

Its appr 3 Kilos heavier and the Battery dont last as long, you always have to carry a full size spare Battery to keep up to the Rise!

[@Vanadium]

@@robmccall5017 huh? Where do you get those information? The R.E 375 is their Enduro and this one weights 18,1 kg for M. 375WH that is 15WH more then the orbea has. Both have the same Shimano motor so the Rotwild should run longer. The R.X. 375 weight is for this year 1,2kg more heavy to the 2020 R.E.375 model.

[@robmccall5017]

@@Vanadium The Rotwild is 19.5 Kilos with eqal Components and the Range is shorter due to the full Power Motor! To get the same Range You will have to carry a 2. full size Battery Pack.

[@Vanadium]

@@robmccall5017 85nm profile is max setting with that range you are referring to. It makes no sense to say the range is shorter if you use the same 60mm profile on both bikes. I also have found reviews who used the same test track and sorry to inform you but the Rise did die a few km sooner at max setting. It was competing again against the r.e and r.x 375 both had their 85nm cranked on. So they get further with more torque. Where did you find the range of the orbea rise? Don't tell me you look at the manufacture page..

[@TroyCollier]

These core mountain bike guys still worrying about weight on ebikes. The heavier the better... Better jumping, more grip, more stable.

[@LuisManuelHdez]

Love this thing and well, that just means it's only a matter of time. . Very short amount of time before my wallet feels the pain.🤣

[@chadrathbone]

Mopeds have come a long way.

[@fzr1000981]

Have to stay with reliable Bosch motor (Wild FS) - the minor weight difference isn't worth it

[@rjanvassbotn3522]

My Orbea with ordinary EP8 motor @

[@Sep45]

You lost me after 10 thousand dollars

[@robmccall5017]

Specialized Levo SL with similar Components is much more expensive and less power.

[@DickVanPaiton]

It starts at about 5k ;-)

[@craigbushell3331]

Dear Santa

[@SpecializedRabbit]

Save Ferris!

[@86309]

Save Farris

[@stibra101]

Affordable? LOL :) Chinese carbon frame for that money?

[@user-uw3fi2zg4t]

unfortunately this is the situation right now specially with the high demand, i am sure prices will go down in a year or two

[@sg1ds919]

I'll stick with my $500 mountain bike.

[@mojitomaker]

SAVE FERRIS

[@ricklyngen276]

save farris

[@SuperCaryG]

Your dad can pick this up? Ya of course. I can pick you up. I’m a dad. Lots of dads can pick that up. Doofus comment. Unless you meant boomer. Then I get it.

[@robmccall5017]

Some Dads Dads could pick it up and they are probably 90yrs old hehe.

[@da12641]

$11,000, I just can't understand that.

[@moosicman101]

save ferris