(Longplay #18) (PC) Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? (Part 2 of 2)

[@adamhollister3434]

This game was a huge part of my childhood. It's sad to see this series has kind of been forgotten over the years. I actually like the Netflix series but it it's just not the same. Fantastic videos!

[@Icicle_158]

Thanks. I'm just doing my part to ensure this game series is archived for future viewers. After mulling about the Netflix series, I personally found it to be well made, albeit targeted to a younger demographic. Of course, the parts where Carmen did her magic were the highlight of the show. That being said, I laughed out loud when Carmen, following years of criminal training, stated that stealing was a bad thing to do after a single conversation with an archaeologist. It's like if Breaking Bad had an episode where Walter White abandons the meth business and comes to the realization that "Drugs are bad." The problem isn't that the answer was unethical; any person in the real world knows the consequences of criminal behavior. Rather, the problem is that it slams the door on a potentially more interesting story. Consider a series where Carmen jumps ship from ACME, builds a global criminal enterprise, snuffs out any rival crime conglomerate that gets in her way, and forges alliances with some of the world's elite thieves. In my opinion, that would be a series far more empowering, compelling, and worthy of the queen of crime. Making Carmen Sandiego just another animated vigilante obfuscates her legacy as the edutainment world's most legendary bandit.

[@umbrellashotgunman]

@@Icicle_158 Funnily enough, the first cartoon already established the groundwork for a criminal Carmen that you could still kind of root for; someone who enjoys the thievery, but has a strong sense of honor, no intent to cause any lasting harm, and the tendency to intentionally leave behind clues just to make things more challenging for herself.

[@bcampbell4880]

I never knew how this ended as a kid. thanks for sharing :)

[@Icicle_158]

No problem.

[@DPmp9]

I never new that there was an end game after 22 years!!!! Thank you man

[@Icicle_158]

No problem.

[@strawberrysoulforever8336]

Wow. You're not kidding about being a perfectionist in this game. I've seen people playing on here who enter the wrong warrant or just run out of time, but not here.

[@Icicle_158]

What can I say? When I do a walkthrough, I want to do it as properly as possible. Besides, failure in this online video scene is equivalent to filler content. Thank you. Personally, I consider myself scarred from binging on TIHYDP (This Is How You Don't Play) videos and the Let's Play section of TV Tropes' "So Bad, It's Horrible" page back when I was in high school. In case you don't know what I'm talking about, Fredrik Knudsen has a fascinating documentary on an notorious let's player known as DSP, also known as Phil Burnell. Amicably put, he is the poster child for how not to operate a gaming channel. From Phil's obnoxious commentary to his dubious gameplay footage, he directly influenced me to adhere to a strenuous code of walkthrough production. But, I am editorializing. Still, I'm glad that there were channels like World of Longplays, WatchMeBeibeh, and Reiji when I started out on this site. After all, I found them to be the primary influences to my style. Of course, I am still a nobody in this scene, but they at least show a way as to how a gaming channel should operate: with surgical gameplay and thoughtful creator input - whether in the form of a comical or informative commentary in the video or its description. I hope I didn't ramble on too much. I just had to explain why I am so hyper-focused on the quality of my videos. Of course there will be certain walkthroughs that I may not be as proficient in, but I try to adhere to the notion that video editing is a gamer creator's secret weapon in their videographic arsenal. EDIT: I noticed that when I was talking about DSP it was evident that the creative choices which inhibit the quality of his work had a direct effect in teaching me how to conduct my online endeavors. Furthermore, I also realized that I should have expanded upon what the acronym "TIHYDP" means. I have justly corrected these mistakes on my part.

[@strawberrysoulforever8336]

@@Icicle_158 I like to watch Let's Plays with commentaries, but I hate it when the commentaries are just talking about random things that have nothing to do with the game or if they talk over exposition, which is why sometimes I actually prefer ones without commentary. There's a couple of guys who did "Jumpstart 3rd Grade" and I got so annoyed with their blabbing over something that had nothing to do with the game that I couldn't get through ten minutes of it. Some players purposely show what happens when you get something wrong in order to show as much of the game as possible, but yeah, here, it's almost the same as when you win a case, just with different music, booing and the Chief telling you off for running out of time, having the wrong warrant, or arresting the wrong person. Or telling you off for letting Carmen get away since you have to recapture some of her crooks. Someone else on here had that happen to her twice during Where In The USA.

[@Icicle_158]

Good point. Though I personally find it to clash with my channel's tone, I will admit that, when executed properly, commentary can provide a complementary effect toward the end result of a video's quality. Such examples of creators I am familiar with which which corroborate this include heavy hitters such as GrayStillPlays and Pitchingace88. Though they all run the gamut in terms of the nature of their performance styles, they generally share a common theme: their commentaries usually have insight on the games they play or have enough kineticism to turn their gameplay into satisfying humor. In other words, what they say in their videos is still grounded in the games they are playing. In contrast, simply babbling over critical parts of the game's plot comes across as significantly irritating for opposite reasons. It only muzzles what the viewer can get from the game and inundates them with banter that only serves to annoy, not entertain. I will also concede that failure during gameplay will occasionally dredge components of a game that would otherwise be overlooked by someone working toward a run that is as perfect as possible. Nevertheless, the purposeful recording of these sections is still different from recording bloopers because they are still a part of the video's target product, not errors which muddle the final video. Still, I also prefer walkthroughs that have as minimal commentary as possible, as so I could get the full experience from the game. However, I will make concessions toward a walkthrough with commentary if the accompanying banter is either charismatic or professorial enough to merit my attention in the first place.

[@strawberrysoulforever8336]

@@Icicle_158 If I was to note something where they actually made fun of the game and it made the video entertaining, ravensdive was talking to someone else over "The Logical Journey Of The Zoombinis". Neither of them talked over the narrator, and then they did a very accurate imitation of the narrator's overacting with "What's THIS? My SHOELACE is untied! I better TIE it up!" Okay, so that doesn't really further the game. Someone (I forget their name) did Where In Time Is Carmen Sandiego. It wasn't a funny commentary, but it was very informative and thorough. There were a few bloopers, eg: when he mixed up one-way pipes and had sewer water coming into the Roman baths, but it was in general a very nicely done commentary. Some people do longplays and then upload failure content or bonus content in other videos. Have you thought about doing that? One of the Where In Time Is Carmen Sandiego bonus clips that I found on here involves you going to ACME in the last case before you've gone through all the other time periods you can visit (the last one is the Renaissance) and the fourth or fifth time you do this, the Chief is eating doughnuts, which she moves away from you, saying "No doughnuts til' you catch Carmen!"

[@Icicle_158]

I personally will not upload any of my failed recordings as bonus features with my longplays, as I often purge my flash drive of them as I record (to ensure they do not clog valuable space for successful attempts). Still, I am glad that I am at least warming up to the notion of commentary videos. Although I will not implement them in my own work in the near future, I can at least now highlight instances when it is done properly and efficiently.

[@BJDJMusic]

The following countries stolen not added on this walkthrough are: Austria - the baton leading the Vienna Boys Choir Denmark - Hans Christian Andersen's pen (or is it his writing desk?) Hungary - the recipe for goulash New Zealand - ? Nigeria - ? Pakistan - K2 Singapore - the statue of Sir Thomas Stanford Raffles For those of you who have been fans of this game, please comment below on what the stolen items were from Nigeria and New Zealand.

[@Icicle_158]

IIRC, Nigeria lost the Niger River Delta and New Zealand had all of its kiwi birds stolen.

[@BJDJMusic]

Thank you, Icicle158

[@Blokewood3]

2:42:35 "Waldo's World Travel Shop?" Oh my gosh. We finally have proof that Waldo and Carmen are working together!

[@Blokewood3]

@Brandon Taylor It's a mystery, but for years we've all been asking "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego," and we've also been asking "Where's Waldo?" Coincidence? I think not!

[@borinightmare]

Waldo's working with V.I.L.E.!! I betcha he's in cahoots with Carmen.

[@Yoshikarter1]

The irony of Carmen's plan is that she left ACME because she felt catching criminals wasn't challenging enough. To steal ACME HQ would have meant stealing would no longer be a challenge that she initially wanted in the first place.

[@justinbrookes76]

9:02 - He could have painted the Sistine Chapel’s ceiling without scaffolding. That might have been why he decided to steal it.

[@incrediblefunk7220]

I used to really enjoy this game and Where In The USA, and on some level I still do appreciate them. I just can't actually bring myself to PLAY them anymore because there was a glitch in the game during one playthrough that scared me off of it. To this day, the memory of it is traumatic but I've not seen or heard anyone else ever reporting to have experienced similar glitches.

[@shirondreemurr3239]

2:48:45 😳🙄 that never gets old...

[@shirondreemurr3239]

2:49:36 oh pls stop...😅

[@ariccua6101]

Odd stuff on the flights: Peru to Singapore should be across the Pacific. Sydney to London is still in the works, I think.

[@alphahunterd]

lols those pom poms, and then she just throws them nonchalantly

[@ladypinkie_]

XD

[@MandrakeHorse]

Lynne Thigpen was truly legendary

[@seizerevenge]

Ladies and gentlemen, we got her.

[@davidaubin3902]

2:48:45 The Chief YAAAAYYYY!

[@worldlandmarks236]

Please do a video about countries informations of the game I really want to see them!

[@Icicle_158]

I actually contemplated adding the country information files along with the walkthroughs for WITWICS and WITUSAICS. Let's just say you gave me a reason to boot up these games one more time, as part of a set of bonus videos to display a facet of them I have not shown already.

[@worldlandmarks236]

@@Icicle_158 Well thanks so much! I will subscribe and wait the video!

[@Icicle_158]

Thank you. I hope to get them online by the weekend at the latest, hopefully earlier. When they are uploading, this thread will be the first to know.

[@Icicle_158]

The video is now being uploaded and it will be live in a few hours.

[@worldlandmarks236]

@@Icicle_158 Thank you for it!!!

[@Terestrasz]

2:47:22 Yeah... that's obviously NOT Carmen

[@Blokewood3]

I just noticed a funny coincidence. In the show "Where on Earth is Carmen Sandiego" it was said that the only time Carmen was caught was in Morocco, by Lee Jordan. In this video, you catch Carmen in Morocco. Lee, is that you? :)

[@cielfrommegamanzero]

2:47:22 HELP THE CARMENS HAVE MADE ME SPAT MY WATER-

[@ChronoZ516]

anyone know where i can play this game online. Ive been searching and searching. all i keep coming up with is the other versions of Carmen Sandiego. Please shoot me a link plz

[@xc1747]

I am noticing that the witnesses have a lot of repeated dialogue in this particular game.

[@Icicle_158]

You are right. Considering the vast yet ultimately finite intel on locations and suspects, it's unsurprising that repetition has been so strongly utilized.

[@Yoshikarter1]

That's to be expected from a 90's educational PC game. If this game were to be PROPERLY remade today, the content would be far more extensive.

[@IcemenMike45]

Is tbisvgame available for purchase anywhere for current computers?

[@StFidjnr]

33:49 Carmen's crime spree hits home

[@thomasgray127]

So if you dont catch Carmen both times is there a scene??

[@alphahunterd]

that data base with the names. is that how many times you've played the game?

[@Icicle_158]

Yes. I have used many pseudonyms in order to play this game multiple times. Besides, it would be strange if a single name dominated the Hall of Fame screen.

[@ladypinkie_]

@@Icicle_158 Omg that’s cool

[@TheRomanTimesNews]

7:48 ❤❤❤ hell yeah betxh ( we ride or die 7:58 yasss queee. Let’s goooooo 😮😅 8:12 uhmm hell nah ( get me my gun license 🪪 😅🎉

[@relgof8871]

Where can you get a version of this game that would work for Windows 10

[@MandrakeHorse]

The fan-made VILEBox collection has all the Carmen Sandiego games and is configured to work with modern PCs (including Windows 10)

[@RpGfreak901]

Have you watched the new Carmen Sandiego cartoon series?

[@Icicle_158]

I've seen the trailer and the series looks pretty decent. However, as much as I enjoy finding and discovering new interpretations of a character, I think that Carmen the mercurial mercenary is more interesting than a sort of Robin Hood-esque robber. Think about it. Her history with ACME, calculating intelligence, and ability to build V.I.L.E. into the series' most domineering band of bandits could make for an interesting character study in how a genius can shift alliances on her own accord. After all, the thrill of the chase is only intensified if you are quarry, not the hunter. And the fact that she basically rocketed V.I.L.E. to the top of the criminal food chain is proof positive that anyone with the drive and desire can make it to the big time. Still, the series looks impeccable. I might give it a watch over the weekend. Even the plot synopsis on Wikipedia makes it seem like a compelling crime adventure. The fact that the writers seemingly turned V.I.LE. into something akin to SPECTRE from the James Bond series merits a watch.

[@RpGfreak901]

Yeah, she's not a full villain in the series, but she's not a hero either, since ACME is still after her.

[@Icicle_158]

I agree. The fact that the Netflix series humanizes Carmen by depicting her as a criminal with a moral compass definitely makes her far more sympathetic than the wholehearted criminal mastermind from the video games. However, from what I could tell from game series, Carmen's heists were often domineering but done in a way so over the top that you'd have to feel impressed by the entire venture. Although they can be diabolical at times, I felt that the majority of her crimes were not done maliciously due in part to the overall tone of her v-mails to you. During these experiences, Carmen comes across not as a criminal mastermind out to create havoc, but as someone who treats it as a massive game of cat and mouse. Someone who uses her pawns and herself as a test to see if she can circumvent the actions of her prior employer. Call me nostalgic, but Carmen to me will always be viewed as the sort of person who doesn't care that her actions irk the authorities. Rather, she's someone who enjoys doing things on her own accord, despite the consequences. I guess that's why I view her more of a decorated antihero than a misunderstood ally to the police.

[@RpGfreak901]

I agree that she's doing what she's doing not because she's evil but because she's challenging anyone to try and catch her if they can. She wants to find out if there's anyone as smart as she is. Well, by the end of the game, yes there is. It's you, the player.

[@Icicle_158]

Good point. And that cycle likely repeats itself infinitely. In both "Where in the World..." and "Where in the USA..." the player certainly reigns triumphant as they capture Carmen and her stooges. However, when they retire and another detective takes up the reins, guess which crimson criminal is revving up for her next crime spree? Nothing will hold Carmen Sandiego down, even if ACME's army of investigators do their best to keep her at bay. This can also be seen in Word Detective and Math Detective, as Carmen basically gets away scot free, albeit with her latest invention smoldering once the player intervenes. No matter which game is scrutinized, Carmen almost always finds a way to slip through the authorities' fingers, whether by a jailbreak off screen or when a new player gets on her tail. This is what I mean when I say Carmen is mercurial. She's witty, sly, and scheming, yet also erudite enough to view any newcomer as a worthy rival. Instead of resigning to her fate, whether if her plans fail or she is thrown in prison, Carmen always finds a way to stay one step ahead of ACME.

[@StFidjnr]

2:48:45 YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

[@justfuckingfeel9696]

If I wanted to buy this online, because there are so many versions. Which one would this one be specifically?

[@Icicle_158]

This is the 1998 enhanced version. The CD case for which has Carmen being chased by Rock Solid, a burly man in a light green shirt and red suspenders, near Big Ben. It appears that this is the only version of the game that I know of that runs like the copy I used for my walkthrough. You can find copies of this edition for sale on sites like eBay.

[@Icicle_158]

Bullseye! That's a match with the copy of the game I have, so I'm very confident that you found the game you wanted.

[@Scottwilkie18]

The Crooks on the run let’s justice be done

[@MrBruinsfan77]

6’?!?!

[@rafinovich9290]

How many thieves are there in the game?

[@Icicle_158]

40, including Carmen herself.

[@rafinovich9290]

@@Icicle_158 thanks

[@harryk8696]

49:21 kay serrah serrah, whatever will be will be... in jail. lmao

[@bryttafitzgibbons6901]

Carmen Sandiego's in jail!

[@andrewcolinwilson1]

2:49:05, Yeah and now lets see what Carmen Sandiego has to say about it.

[@LucasFernandezNimes]