Longsword, Gladius, Dagger, Spear Tested on Riveted Mail

The mail is a reproduction of armor found at Vendel and Valsgärde (6th to mid 7th century), although made of steel instead of iron. Ironically nowadays iron materials are relatively expensive, compared to steel.
This is where the maker of this test piece got the rings: www.capapie.co.uk/index.php?ro...
The weapons used in this test:
1.) Langes Messer by Nielo Swords
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2.) Roman gladius (mid 1990s model) from Raven Armoury
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3.) Type XVIIIb longsword by Lockwood (dedicated thrusting blade)
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4.) Spear point by Baltimore Knife & Sword (BKS)
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5.) Rondel dagger with triangular spike blade
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[@tristansittler3615]

oh finally, some riveted mail. im so tired of people testing on budded mail and stating that it suck.

[@autismisuncontrollable4925]

Especially when people use stainless steel or iron rings, its painful to watch.

[@Gloin79]

+Autism is Uncontrollable stainless steel is not weak, also I've never seen historical mail made of steel always iron...

[@robinthrush9672]

butted* Didn't see any flowers.

[@ExUSSailor]

Stainless is exceedingly brittle. Which is why it's never used for decent armor, or, blades.

[@voshsahaal6103]

Stainless has one simple issue, it's brittle. Hard, yes, but it cracks where as high carbon steel won't. Even hardened high carbon skipping the tempering is tougher than stainless in that regard.

[@realityvanguard2052]

half swording a guy who doesn't die would be awkward...

[@ABlindSniper115]

* Gets stabbed. * ... "Hey, how 'ya doin'?"

[@autismisuncontrollable4925]

Thats why you always have a back-up pommel

[@Beardshire]

I don't really think that's a tactic unless you injury the opponent, I mean it doesn't seem like a good idea to just all the sudden half sword out of nowhere.

[@Mtonazzi]

Pure circunstancial speculation: in a dire situation, if my sword gets stuck on my opponent, even it the actual wound is 2 or 1cm deep only, wouldn't ig make him awkward to have it there? In the time he my try to counter attack or even remove the stuck sword one could go to ringen and/or use a backup weapon like a dagged.

[@aurourus6894]

Drop the weapon and run away, then pull out a pommel and throw it.

[@quepacho64]

1:41 that's one majestic beard motion

[@LordVader1094]

I didn't even notice that. Lol

[@uninterruptedrhythm4104]

+sofullofpiss slurp them instead

[@jasperj4974]

bonobo go to your trashhole

[@tannerrhoades6913]

Infiramos!

[@5THR33S]

what amazes me is that these are premeditated attacks with plenty of time to prepare and aim and the mail still did pretty damn well. in the heat of battle where split seconds make a difference i wouldn't mind a layer of that

[@kevinoneal9779]

Is this secretly a second response video to Game Theory?

[@SwordTune]

Yes.

[@danilooliveira6580]

I don't really its necessary to go though to incapacitate someone with a stab like that, there is no doubt it would hurt like hell, maybe even more than the impact from a cut since the point of contact is so small. people seem to think that plate was used to protect against cuts, but if you think about it, you can't cut through mail and ganbersom anyway, so the plate will be there to protect against thrusts and arrows, and in my opinion, a just as important characteristics is that it can spread the energy from impacts though the plate, so you would feel nothing from a impact.

[@autismisuncontrollable4925]

It would hurt, BUT during a battle, when your pumped full of adrenaline, you would barely feel it. (except for the spear, that would hurt A LOT)

[@OutOfNamesToChoose]

Autism is Uncontrollable Maybe you could get winded much harder with mail? I suppose when winded, a person is almost as good as dead.

[@aurourus6894]

Mail and plate armor are both surprisingly light.

[@eucherenkov]

A hard enough thrust, such as the one with the gladius, to the liver would be likely fatal, even without actually going through the mail; the sheer force behind it would likely be enough to cause internal bleeding. But of course, that assumes wearing *only* mail, without any padding such as a gambeson, which never happened. So, riveted mail + a proper gambeson would likely render you immune to most kinds of swords, assuming of course you only get hit in protected areas.

[@JETWTF]

Plate was not created because of cuts and thrusts but because of blunt force weapons. Mail and a gambeson isn't going to do much against a Warhammer, you need something solid covering the gambeson. Plate stops the hammer and the gambeson absorbs the kinetic energy without plate the hammer is stopped by your body and your body absorbs the kinetic energy giving you a really bad day. Plate without gambeson and the body absorbs the kinetic energy and you get some blunt force trauma.

[@dantehernandez7940]

Damn skallagrim is looking fit now

[@TheMadMedek]

Just goes to show that the Vikings were not under dressed for battle. Mail can take a lot of damage. I'd wear mail against a samurai any day, considering the katana is meant for slashing attacks.

[@Direwoof]

Yeah Katana just like an arming sword is mostly a backup weapon. The only swords I think were the main primary weapons were Nodachi and Great swords. And you don't wanna get clobbered by them unless your wearing a great bascinet.

[@Giagantus]

Most vikings didn't have maille armour though.

[@MaycroftCholmsky]

@@Giagantus they did, just not many of them.

[@merlball8520]

@@Direwoof Japanese "spears" were often just katana like blades on poles. They didn't wear much in the way of armor and most of their primary weapons were designed without much thought to armor.

[@dr.sleaseball441]

unless they use yaris (not the car)

[@Sophistry0001]

Even if that doesn't go through, I feel like the force would destroy your sternum or ribs. Like it would just shatter bones and cause big time internal damage.

[@TheRealOtakuEdits]

Matt T Better than getting your organs stabbed through and being guaranteed to bleed out if your opponent doesn't just end you then and there.

[@Sophistry0001]

OtakuEdits yea no doubt. I was just kinda surprised I guess at how much force can still be delivered even if it's not a puncture.

[@sststr]

At an absolute minimum, it would knock the wind out of you, maybe stagger you backwards a step or two, even knock you down. That is to say, it would leave you wide open for a follow up attack. So still bad news no matter what.

[@tiaopiak]

Before antibiotic was introduce, an open wound is almost a death sentence in the battlefield. So as skallagrim shown that even though you can still get injured by impact, you reduced the danger of severe open wound.

[@ultimateclassic4092]

I'd imagine every one of those hits would likely cause a combination of injuries, ranging from bones breaking, internal hemorrhaging, organs punctured, or even all of the above simultaneously given the right thrust at the right spot.

[@ThaPinkGuy]

Each one of those hits looks like it could easily break a rib, may be able to keep fighting but you're gonna take a long time to recover.

[@test-tf8wt]

Yes, but by moving your body side- or backwards you can negate a fair bit of the impact force. Plus Skall thrusted with all his force without having to wonder, what happens afterards. In real combat an opportunity to thrust like shown in the video was probably rare. Most likely you wouldn't commit as much into most of your thrusts, as you would just be too open, if your thrust was not lethal.

[@Skallagrim]

Committing to an attack does not necessarily expose you, if done right. Proper body mechanics rather than overswinging and stumbling about like they do in movies and video games. :)

[@test-tf8wt]

I was not talking about overswinging, but the fact alone that your weapon might be stuck in the maille a bit is already enough to give your opponent an advantage in a fight. So yes, if done properly, a thrust will not completely expose you but still hinder your ability to return to a defensive stance/guard immiediately and therefore expose you for a maybe half a second? or even less, but it still might be enough to give your foe an advantage in the fight.

[@Skallagrim]

test Well, in a real fight you would also yank the sword out as hard as you can without having to worry about wrecking the stand or tearing the strings that hold the piece of mail in place. :)

[@davidmelton3704]

From this and other armor tests I've watched, it seems as if armor all around is extremely effective against most or all contemporary weapons. How did casualties get inflicted in ancient and medieval times then? How were the battles decided if severe or fatal injuries were rare? And what allowed the historical battles with high casualty counts given that armor was so good? I'm shocked at how effective armor is given that I know a lot of people died in battle.

[@youremakingprogress144]

Whoever made this mail did a really good job.

[@mikefule330]

A very interesting test. Remember, though, that only an inch or so of penetration by a steel is actually a worse injury than most of us will ever suffer in life. That sword or spear thrust to the chest would crack a rib, and to the abdomen would double a man over, winded. A hit that is bad enough to incapacitate the enemy and give you "a free shot" has done its job.

[@user-tx6or7kh4w]

Rings are seems too big in this piece of a chainmail.

[@danielrye5667]

When watching these tests, I often think about how difficult it is to know for sure, since we are using modern quality iron, which is (relatively) pure. At the time period, I imagine that the actual quality of steel could have varied greatly, meaning some armors would not be quite as strong as others, even when made in the same shape and form. It could be interresting to make actual replicas with a similar quality iron, that they would actually have used for making armor, and then do thrust tests, and see how big a difference the quality of iron actually does.

[@farmerboy916]

The primary issue being that making period iron is already labor and time intensive enough without having to make little tiny wire out of it by hand. Even if we did, the accuracy and skill of who did could be called into question

[@farmerboy916]

Not to mention the sheet variability of quality etc back then

[@OutOfNamesToChoose]

Daniel Rye That's an interesting point, though you'd have to consider making the weapons out of the same quality of iron or steel.

[@Zamsky39]

Weapons were also made out of worse quality steel and iron, so maybe modern armour vs modern weapons performs relatively similar to historical armour vs historical weapons?

[@Skallagrim]

Don't forget, the swords we use for these tests nowadays are also of higher quality, not just the armor.

[@CountSpartula]

*On the Gladius* "Well it snuck in through the rings..." Well, thats the point isn't it?

[@AlexaValentino-lb5df]

Yes, with the scutum it made for a deadly combo and would outweigh the benefits of having a sharper longer sword which compromises tight formations.

[@leftistadvocate9718]

you've lost a bit of weight skallagrim good job. i always enjoy you videos as they are openminded and honest

[@Skallagrim]

Thanks!

[@Ygdrasil18]

Here you can see really good how the later period swords are made more for penetrating instead of the earlier ones which are focused more on cutting rather than stabbing. Great video. Keep it on!

[@Gloin79]

The spear would probably penetrate deeper if it had a narrower point, but then the wound would also be narrow and cause a lot less bleeding and injury. I'd like to see a timeline of spearheads and see if the heads become narrower and narrower as mail becomes more prevelant

[@tharrock337]

good point, but the ammount o bleeding should be nearly irrelevant to a skilled user, there are a lot of vital organs in the Torso area, the question would be how quick does it kill rather than is it lethal I'd guess. Anyways I'd love to see that timeline as well.

[@Gloin79]

the broad heads of earlier swords and spears suggest otherwise, if you hit for example the stomach yes it's lethal but he'd stil be able to fight.

[@Gloin79]

+Feminism Must Die indeed nice, a bit later than I was looking for, you can kind of see an opposite evolution here when mail was becoming less prevalent due to gunpowder

[@mageyeah7763]

Poleaxes were specifically anti armor weapons, and they had extremely narrow points...

[@Gloin79]

that is correct

[@mikeandrewp]

With regards to someone in a mail hauberk being run through a spear, I imagine this would be possible if the spear was used from horseback. A half ton of destrier plus an armored knight moving at 30mph+ would probably pierce clean through any armor you could comfortably wear, except maybe some late medieval plate.

[@THEDEEDSMAN]

to be fair, someone in mail would have had a shield to absorb the blow

[@Vlad_Tepes_III]

@@THEDEEDSMAN *redirect

[@IrishHandGren8]

Looking fit man, congrats on your hard work and recovery!!!

[@superbrutu]

Will you do some tests about murder-strokes? I think it would be really cool to watch.

[@jasfoy773]

He already did some against a tire, not ballistic gel or armour but it is the closest thing.

[@superbrutu]

But those were somewhat superficial tests, I meant testing on real armor.

[@ABlindSniper115]

Yes, I'd really love to see this!

[@Eric-sy1xu]

superbrutu Armour is prohibitively expensive

[@autismisuncontrollable4925]

It doesn't have to be armour, just buy a 2mm sheet of hardened/tempered steel.

[@spykezspykez7001]

a "little penetration" could mean maybe just a little bit of the blade got through, but how much of the mail would have gone with it into the wound as well? So, how deep would it REALLY have gone? Food for thought.

[@The1Helleri]

He really gave it just the tip and only for a second... :)

[@TheCapitalVice]

This and the silicone video is amazing. Keep up the good work Skall

[@beachmaster3486]

Nice video, Skallagrim. Been looking for someone properly testing mail for a while.

[@Mtonazzi]

Skall, I found this most educational. But as for the weight on the frame, I'd leave it as it is. Why? The fact that some of your momentum is transferred to it in such way may (I think) dissipate the impact pretty much like how an actual opponent would try to deflect or dodge your attack. In conclusion: I think the results on a stand like this may give a better representation than hitting a target on a firm and solidly placed stand.

[@sffc95]

Not necessarely, I get your point but you have to consider that the stand doesn't represnt the weight of a person, nor the distribution of said weight. If the center of mass is lower, then it's much harder to tumble it. A more interesting experience would be using the prosthethics he got (at least just the chest), and build a makeshift dummy with legs and average weight, so that he could test how much a stab or a shove would actually be able to make someone who is intentionally lowering the cnter of gravity fall

[@Mtonazzi]

Yes, it's far from perfect and you're right right right. But as it is, I think it's better already that the typical targets on a tree, log, or wall that are so common.

[@sffc95]

Indeed, you're absolutely right. I was simply suggesting a better alternative if we /really/ want to be picky =)

[@katrinegadegaard1241]

Question: would it make sense to use something like a crash test dummy if you wanted real proportions and weight? Although I guess maybe they would be a bit too pricey :o

[@sffc95]

True, hence why I said makeshift. It's not very important to have sensors on the Heads, Shoulders Knees and toes... knees and toes. However, with some wood, pen and paper and some weights it could be possible to replicate a human's distribution of weight, and also use the prostethics as visual cues. Thus effectively simulating how a real blow would be (as long as the dummie is in a fighting stance)

[@PJDAltamirus0425]

Also, look up Eric Schmid, the mail he makes is historically accurate to the tea and known to be extremely robust.

[@jasondoe2596]

Philip Dyer ...the former Google CEO has such hobbies?!! (yes, yes, the spelling is a tiny bit different ;)

[@Drakwdeanrer]

>2017 >Doesnt know that Google CEO's are brought from the past with a time machine hidden beneath Google's office in Washington. >Lol git gut nub.

[@smith1008]

was looking forward to this video!and was not dissapointed

[@crusaderzero3984]

Dude, I love your historical topics especially pre-modern age period. There are lot of people had video testing butted & riveted mail, gambeson & plate on youtube, while I hope you can test something new stuff such as coat of plate, brigandine & jack of plate (sewing type of brigandine). From some resources I read, it said that later brigandine is even capable to stop specific type of firearm.

[@captaincokecan]

That's a nice stabby steelstick

[@NaqrSeranvis]

Well, I can imagine those records of mail wearers having their armor penetrated entirely were of soldiers who were struck when on the ground or against another solid, unmovable object.

[@davidmelton3704]

Thanks for the comments. An added piece of detail to explain my question. I'd assumed that as armor advanced swords became less useful against a fully armored knight (not speaking of much less armored troops.). But what surprised me is a lot of the tests I've seen on KZbin of maces, pollaxes, warhammers, and other weapons is that they also seemed to not deliver substantial damage past the armor - especially for plate armor and helmets. So for example you hit the guy with the mace, and between his armor and the leather or fabric under it, the enemy isn't really hurt. Or so it seems from the tests I've seen. Similarly, spike type attachments you might find on a war hammer or similar weapon don't get through the armor and fabric to a meaningful, combat useful degree. This even though I'd always heard those weapons were developed because armor had made swords useless. Of course, tests are hard to make identical to real world conditions.

[@raccoonking7566]

Wow Skall. You seem to have lost quite a bit of weight! Congrats man, keep it up!

[@cahirdocherty9026]

Do you ever watch the programme forged in fire?

[@farmerboy916]

Ugh, that piece of shit. Time limits, weird ideas about what makes things effective or useful etc. It's the deadliest warrior of weapons/ weapon making

[@TheMiseriaCantare]

What about bow or crossbow?

[@TheMan-je5xq]

Ragnarr Selvik that's what I wanna see too

[@lordblack998]

Or perhaps a Pilum (Roman Spear)

[@FrenchLightningJohn]

they won't be able to penetrate, a gambeson alone was able to stop a arrow fire from a warbow, so if you add mail there's no way an arrow will penetrate then

[@TheMan-je5xq]

blackgrayden I know that but we need proof cause some people are serious chain mail haters out there lol

[@TheMan-je5xq]

Robin Ødegård I saw that test too but one thing that bothered me is that it was silver soddered shut so we need 100% riveted mail to be absolutely sure

[@73fuma]

I see you're getting rid of the belly. Nice work Skall, keep doing what you do.

[@dra90nslay3r4]

the accounts of different failures of mail such as being slashed wide open are possible because we have a better understanding of steel now days and can make it stronger

[@CountingStars333]

3:48 for expression

[@THEFurfoot]

chainmail the best thing you can wear to a gay bar

[@Skallagrim]

You have some experience with that, huh? :) Not judging, whatever floats your boat...

[@Mr_Maiq_The_Liar]

Tombstone Jack considering that it's only weakness is getting stabbed with a dagger, I don't know about that

[@THEFurfoot]

dont knock it till ya try it no better feeling than blacking out and seeing your pants still on after you've tried some strange baby aspirin from some guy speaking German best parent teacher conference ever

[@ulfrtheblind9262]

Maiq The Liar VII Maiq is done talking.

[@terrihunter3152]

Id choose plate. Less chance of penetration

[@datdabdoe1417]

Finally someone properly tests proper mail thank god

[@haydenggallen]

The slow-mo always makes him look badass

[@User9r682]

This would be why maces, flails and pommel throwing were a thing. Flexible armour is great against bladed weapons but can't really deal with blunt force very well.

[@Tananjoh]

I don't think the mail is entirely historical accurate in it's construction, the holes for the rivets looks like they have been drilled or stamped out and not pushed open like on historical mail so the metal around the rivet is raised: s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/44/63/c2/4463c2a9b560f91090df9da4f39c6b41.jpg Still interesting test to see

[@THEDEEDSMAN]

would this have influenced the results of the test?

[@thejackinati2759]

It would likely make the links slightly harder to break at the rivet. Who knows, but I think that even the tiniest variables can affect such a test.

[@Tananjoh]

Yes, it probably would, along with other variables such as wire thickness and diameter of the rings (which varied a bit in period). Here's a test with more historical accurate mail, though not quite 100% accurate there is some discussion later in the thread about that. www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?83020-Riveted-Maille-and-Padded-Jack-Tests-(very-photo-intensive) Unfortunately the photos are gone.

[@thejackinati2759]

Hah, I remember seeing that thread back before the pictures were lost. At the time of viewing, only a few were lost. At least the writing is there telling about the results.

[@Tananjoh]

The Jackinati275 Yeah, quite nice tests. Though I should point out that the test against the jack has a problem. The guy who did it has said that the European swords had edge they came delivered with, which were not that good.

[@antoniomele4830]

I'm quite impressed. I didn't know that mail was so good

[@gummi6185]

Wow skall you have lost so mutch weight! Great job man, keep it up. im proud of you :D

[@MrEvanfriend]

Armor is good, but the only way to ensure your survival on a battlefield is to not be there at all. Combat carries inherent risk.

[@breaden4381]

Evan Friend Unless you have a pommel

[@MrEvanfriend]

Braden Vande Plasse Those jokes are played out and were never great to begin with

[@Gekkibi]

Indeed, we should end the meme rightly.

[@guiv5412]

Evan Friend Yes. Thank you. Enough with the pommel jokes.

[@SmerchBM]

Nah, just be a main character and wear the impractical spiky armour.

[@NumberedBySeven]

Glad to see more spear stuff!

[@matthewm7590]

Hey skall, I was wondering what a good price range for stage combat swords would be. Right now I am looking for either medieval arming swords or hand and a half swords on KoA. thank you!

[@ggf_thecoolhatguy8950]

Hi Skall, I was curious, have you seen the new Mainz pattern gladius being offered by Condor? And if so, do you have any early impressions based on the description or pictures they have put out? Based on my experience with Condor I would expect it to be a good entry level gladius (for use in test cutting etc), but I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.

[@Rasgonras]

I think that those depictions of mail failing so spectacularily simply were depictions of the extraordinary, because that is what interests people even nowadays. People probably knew that ordinarily, armor wouldn't fail.

[@Psiberzerker]

I'm amazed at how stiff that estoc (Or point oriented longsword if you prefer) was.

[@leemcgann6470]

How well does butted armor stand up to slashing say around the wrists?

[@irodwen]

weren't some mail shirts double padded in the chest area? would that offer more substantial protection from thrusts?

[@elpapoide4313]

So, how were this late medieval longswords used, i recently bought a really old replica of one of this and i'm curious of how mucho do i need to sharpen it.

[@voshsahaal6103]

Did you think about doing a lighter "placing stab" with the rondel to get the tip some purchase before hammering it in with the pommel?

[@BufusTurbo92]

I am planning to buy a set of riveted mail. I have seen there's flat rings, round rings and mixed rings. What type would you reccomend?

[@thomas_lale]

Your really looking trim Skall. Well done.

[@TheHobberGames]

When mail completely blocks a thrust attack (or attacks in general) does the wearer still feel mild to intense pain because the force exerted on the body?

[@S1eeperServ1ce]

Would you be able to conduct an additional test with modern knives likely to be encountered on the street? Could you also demonstrate the effectiveness versus heavy slashing blows from machetes?

[@anthonydevito1298]

Skall you're looking real fit and healthy, good on you!

[@Skallagrim]

Thanks.

[@alfiewaters9284]

Does anyone know if you can import replica lotr swords, anduril, to the UK. Does customs deny it or not.

[@VelveteenVermilion]

Still looks like it would hurt quite a bit like bullets and soft body armor also what is the cloth armor called padded gambeson?

[@LeohTheArcher]

Damn Skall, you're looking fit man. Keep It up!

[@syyskuu]

Skall, do you have any videos about what mailed/armored combat might actually look like on a battlefield? Would there be a lot of repeatedly trying to manage to do some lethal/disabling damage and repeatedly failing due to protective equipment, not perfect techique and weaponry, and parrying (and thus an enormous drain of stamina with each dude you avoid being killed by)?

[@vumpx2818]

hey skall,i saw you did a energy sword vid recently and i wanted to know what you think of energy weaponry from warhammer 40k? an energy sword in 40k is basically a regular sword,with blade hilt guard and everything, but in the handle it has a force field generator that creates a forcefield along the edge,wich allows the sword to cut almost everything with almost no effort

[@jayhardy1683]

Someone please answer At 0:44 in the slow mo the sword "bends" kinda like its "flimsy". I put those in " s because im not sure if that's how swords are supposed to be (dont see many people with one straped to their hip). So are swords supposed to be like that? If so why?

[@Skallagrim]

Yes, tempered steel is supposed to flex and spring back to its original shape. If it didn't then it would either permanently bend or break.

[@fimbul_]

Hello Skall, can you give some information about the wire thickness and the inner diameter of the rings?

[@giancarloscrimenti1505]

Hey Skall. I'm interested in getting into HEMA but I was wondering if I could learn techniques with something like a machete instead of making a purchase as large as say, an Albion sword. Thanks!

[@muskyelondragon]

Really nice test

[@havoc3742]

question, would you have more success with say, a pike than with the spear? I'm no expert, but I've seen a few pikes with narrower heads, and with longer purchase... I dunno

[@pavelsvacha]

May i ask? In For Honor, the Knight uses the guard of his sword to kill, is that some sort of fighting style, and how does it work?

[@ArthurEKing8472]

wow! What an amazing revelation! Armour actually protected people! I thought they just wore it 'cause it looked cool! lol. But seriously for a second, loved the video, and an awesome demonstration!

[@nate5249]

I know this is a stupid question but what would classify as sword as a sword breaker such as a long sword probably mispronounced that but something that would have so much mass behind it could break a weaker blade

[@tarille1043]

On the historical depictions/accounts is it possible that low grade or poorly maintained equipment combined with constant damage (Such as some of the strikes you've shown that dealt damage to the mail) could eventually lead to some of these things occurring? Even if infrequently?

[@jklm011]

Skall as i've seen the rondel dagger lately it feels weird the way you are using it because of the position of the target compared to the grip you are using (ice pick(?)). Have you thought about making a platform that would allow you to strike downward with daggers, so as if you were stabbing someone's neck or shoulders (which maybe makes sense for the referenced grip). Or am I not considering something?

[@silmarilasmr6801]

These videos are strangely therapeutic

[@Alopex1]

Dear Skall, Seeing as you're working the spear, I have a humble request: Could you perhaps do some tests on one-handed spear usage? Maybe both overarm and underarm, and with and without shield? And with and without a buttspike (if you have something like that available)? That would be absolutely awesome, I'd really appreciate that, and I'm sure many other viewers would, too! Keep up the good work!

[@asmcint]

So I have a question. Would you see mail like this more frequently sewn onto a leather jacket or a gambeson, or just standalone as a hauberk? Would it even be a good idea to sew mail onto something like that?

[@HoundXXII]

Skal, you talked about making some cheap ballistics gel in you're previous video. You should make some in a large rectangle, throw some gambeson on it, then mail and do some similar tests to show the proven effectiveness of it.

[@johno1544]

I love when Skall does a better test then shows on the History channel and BBC. I've seen them use costume mail and everything they tried went through it. I mean people used mail for over a thousand years for a reason

[@smegchef]

What kind of damage (if any) do the blades take?

[@leoscheibelhut940]

I think that the movement that your setup allowed is a better analogy to thrusting at a man than most tests that are better secured. In actual combat, an armed man would often be pushed back before the mail gave way to the thrusting blade, saving the man.

[@whforsythfilm]

Holy shit, you've lost so much weight! Well done man!

[@Skallagrim]

Thanks.

[@0Fingolfin0]

great test!

[@ron948]

Where mail hauberk or any mail armour worn outside of gambeson or inside gambeson?

[@frostsoul4199]

Did any of those thrusts penetrate the gambeson as well?

[@kargaist]

How is the Lange Messer doing so far? I havent found many reviews of Nielo Swords, most of them where a few years old and it seems that back then it was basicly luck if you got a good blade or a poor one.

[@siestatime4638]

It seems to me that the impact from even the "failed" strikes could have a significant effect.

[@jefferylutz6963]

Skall, could you please test the same stuff with thrown spears/javelins like you did on the padding. I know many people who insist that throw spears would have less penetration than a thrust. Great video keep up the historical accuracy testing :)

[@xxlCortez]

Considering thrust is a weak point of hauberk, it was fairly decent protection against them.

[@Benzy670]

I know this is an old video, but that spear looked weaker in slow-mo than I’d like. The wood was flexing as was the connection at the spear tip. Would that actually be more realistic or more preferable than the rigid spears that I’m imagining as ideal?

[@Nerthym]

It would be very interesting to see how it protect bearer against arrows as well, especially with different arrowheads.

[@S.ASmith]

I wonder how Solid Ring/welded maille/chain mail would hold up. I'm a welder myself, but I'm too busy, nor do I have the material suitable for making solid rings!

[@travisbenard518]

I can see a particularly beasty blade with a strong (almost superhuman) swinging it cutting mail but that seem extreme. They used it because it did it's job.

[@nightdemon78]

Excellent testing video. Thank you, Skall! One suggestion...end it rightly next time.

[@sol2544]

Master Hammer I want an actual test of pommel vs some kind of armor. attached to weapon or not. just for shit and giggles

[@bazookaace]

Master Hammer dead meme

[@Arrowtomahknee]

Hey Skall, what is your favourite curved sword that you owned are have tested?

[@larw0lf701]

Right on, shows good penetration. Is that a solid surface behind the bit of padding and chain mail? …bc a thicker and more weighted target makes me think there’d be more penetration .

[@Joy1Sensei]

Hey Skallagrim! Another great vid!

[@blockyorbits2376]

Hey Skall, what's your outro music?

[@leonidasthanatos1182]

hey skallagrim, keep up the interesting content.

[@Pibydd]

You mention at the end historical accounts of spears completely running through someone in chainmail - but those could easily be a different case, instead of a simple spear thrust it could be a braced spear against a charging opponent running himself through by shear momentum.