Looking for clarity? Topping D90 DAC review.

[@MrPkimura]

The way you tell stories of real life experiences/uses and then tie it back to the product being reviewed really helps form a picture of value. Also, your comment about using the DAC in different budget setups and the value it brings to high end systems was also helpful.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, I figure there are so many reviews out there so I rather make a video sharing real life experience. Yeah, not many people talk about using the DAC in different level systems. Thanks for the comment Paul.

[@uribar-ner5055]

I own this dac about 2 months now and it is really amazing.

[@PremKumar-vt1hq]

@@ThomasAndStereo can we connect this DAC directly to XTZ edge a2-300 poweramp?? I meant, can we connect it as preamp+dac?

[@brucelavender]

@@PremKumar-vt1hq I would like to know the same thing. Thank you for asking.

[@jungtarcph]

@@PremKumar-vt1hq yes, using the internal volume control

[@arcforceworld]

when you connected the preamp, it brought the sound to life! That pre is one killer piece!

[@uribar-ner5055]

I own this DAC for 2 months now. It is really amazing.

[@drewabe1410]

Hey Thomas, Drew from Hawaii. I have since added the D90 MQA DAC to my system. I can agree at least in my setup it has been a game changer. My Cambridge CD/DAC combo was blown away. I have since shelved my player in favor of Tidal music with Audirvana. The player is now just a transport if I want to play a disk with the D90 doing all the conversion. 800 dollars giant killer!

[@DSupremeLounge]

Thanks. I own the D90 and have it paired with PrimaLuna pre and monoblocks and it’s so transparent and instruments and vocals are conveyed well. I’m a happy camper and also got mine from Apos. Got to my house in a few days too,

[@hxhky]

Hey Thomas, great review as always. Please consider doing a comparison video of D90/M400/Ares II/etc, as they are similarly priced and makes perfect sense to compare. You know, these comparison videos get a LOT of interest (along with 'best XXX of 2020' type lol). That's also why Sean with Zero Fidelity has a dedicated section in his reviews to compare similar products. Also, please consider reviewing the RME ADI-2 DAC FS. Thanks!

[@wongkanyin]

Bought it and paired with my Cambridge streamer. The details and the soundstage is superb. Thanks Thomas!

[@TorToroPorco]

A very useful review. One of the best things an audiophile can do is to try to listen to a variety of components and systems to get an idea of the different sound signatures that one can expect to find. My own experience having gone through the process of trying to squeeze the maximum performance from my DAC and system is that in terms of detail extraction it’s the micro details and tonality that gets me closest to that sense of ultimate satisfaction that I’m seeking. Without those characteristics I don’t experience the same degree of emotional enjoyment and the music becomes less involving and too clinical. But as Thomas points out it is rather incredible that we’re at the stage where we can reach such a high degree of fidelity at such a relatively low cost.

[@MultiKas2010]

I thought of Topping D90 last year after saw it in Amazon. But after many reviewers, I turned to buy Denafrip Ares II and listened for 3 months, Satisfied. I guess Thomas likes the D90 a bit over (by his verbal expression) Ares II is the D90 gives stronger base and better over all tonal balance while the Ares II is unique for its airy transparency and textured mid. They are about the same price range, but fit different listening pleasure. Thanks Thomas.

[@barryd9059]

Thanks again Thomas. I gave the D90 a try and paired it with the Willsenton R8. I was looking for budget giant killers and the description is on point. Comparing different DAC’s and it’s like how you described, sushi and fried rice. I have no complaints. Keep up the good work. You are like a stereo sommelier, haha.

[@MangoZen]

Thank you for the review Thomas. I've had the D90 in my system for over a month and generally agree with your observations, specially the separation of instruments in the soundstage. My system's overall sound signature is warmer (tubes and ribbon speakers) and the D90 offers a perfect balance between detail and warm musicality. Love the sushi vs fried rice comparison...

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Great to hear! I did find the D90 slightly warmer compared to the other DACs I had in for review. It is more to my taste actually as I prefer a slightly warmer presentation.

[@Lovelacewatkins139]

Hi , would this dac fit in with my icon audio 20pp tube amp and klipsh rp600m speakers, I wouldn't want it to be to bright , but I do like the detail and vocal in my system , I am no audio file just searching for a good dac and this will fit my budget , thanks

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Given there are a lot of reviews on it already, I did not deep dive into the sound. Instead, I wanted to just chat about why you should consider it. Non-affiliated link: apos.audio/collections/dac-digital-to-analog-converter/products/topping-d90-dac Update Sept 24, 2020. I received an email from Apos - see below. We have just launched the Apos Ensembles, which are product bundles that also come with considerable savings and it would be great if you can do a launch post for us. These bundles were brought together based on experience, customer feedback, and influencer feedback to form a superior listening experience just like a group of musicians playing in harmony together. :) For more information Here is the link on the Apos Ensembles: apos.audio/collections/apos-ensemble and here is the blog post explaining more: apos.audio/blogs/news/apos-ensembles-now-available-on-apos-audio. We're hoping you can add it to the existing D90 video or promote it somehow. These will do really well as these are discounted. 2) We have just launched the Topping A50s Headphone Amplifier (apos.audio/products/topping-a50s-headphone-amplifier) and xDuoo Link 2 (apos.audio/products/xduoo-link-2-dac-headphone-amp). For more information Here is the link on the Topping A50s blog news: apos.audio/blogs/news/topping-a50s-amp-now-available-on-apos-audio

[@HarshKumar-ts9mu]

@Thomas & Stereo How does Topping D90 compares to Denefrips Ares II ?

[@paznewis107]

@@HarshKumar-ts9mu he told you not to ask...

[@xx6sic6xx1]

@Thomas & Stereo have you heard the RME adi2 dac?

[@HarshKumar-ts9mu]

@@paznewis107 when did he told me?

[@paznewis107]

@@HarshKumar-ts9mu 14.00

[@dougieroberts7045]

Really enjoy the videos, nice to see somebody reviewing affordable hifi. I watch other reviewers and they tend to review equipment that is directed at established audio enthusiasts, the more mature listeners. I like that affordable equipment being reviewed will encourage a whole new younger enthusiast to take sound quality seriously, keep up the good work.

[@kylejohnson1945]

Well put with the analogy of separation with how it works with food and sound. I’m torn tho, I like my food chicken fried rice and detail and separation in my music. Keep up the great work Thomas. With all the great a/v boutiques going away these days people need insight and direction in good sound that make sense!

[@Fmandan77]

What I liked about this video wasn't any thing specific to the D90, but the rationality of DAC cost vs the rest of one's listening system. I just recently purchased my first external DAC, a Topping E30. It's a budget DAC with great reviews. I expect it to perform better than any DAC in any CD/DVD player (or other source) in my price range. The rest of my system probably "deserves" or can handle a better DAC, possibly something like the D90 (or even better) to match the balanced inputs on my preamp etc. But at this point as a beginning DAC user, I'm satisfied knowing that the DAC I've decided to start with should be an improvement over what my current digital sources were feeding my preamp.

[@billgates307]

Thanks Thomas for this. Don’t want to be the wise guy but maybe you should have mention that the preamp of this dac is a little so so. But wen you use this dac in pure dacmode its all rainbows and butterflies 😊👌 Greetings from the Netherlands ✌️

[@Olaya_kawaii1922]

Thanks my friend. You must be quite a courageous guy to talk so clearly about differeneces in between very expensive gear and those little giant killers.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, I am ok with getting criticize for it. Mr Kanta did end up selling his high-end DAC for it.

[@Olaya_kawaii1922]

@@ThomasAndStereo I have a Sabaj just for my computer and have more than 130 tested. I have some reviews but only in french www.omycamisaudio.com/dac-testes I am more in the R2R side and I am very happy since last years with this new techno "ladder". You should test the Audio Gd R8. Perhaps de best one I tested and I tested a lot over 7'000€ and more. I am intrigued by the Gustard A-22. I like a lot all the AKM stuff but the did a big error with the 44 series. They come with DSD but lost all the magic of the 43 series in PCM. Seems that this AK4499 is really something to try. Hail from Switzerland !

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@Olaya_kawaii1922 Wow, Switzerland! You wrote those articles?

[@Olaya_kawaii1922]

@@ThomasAndStereo Yes. It took me quite a long time more than 5 years. Very interesting "lost" of time, jajaja

[@remi2206]

Didnt watch the video yet but funny enough i was searching on the web for Dac manufacturers the other day and came across this brand,thanks in advance for the review👌

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Ah, definitely a brand that is worth considering.

[@MangoZen]

One thing I forgot to mention in my comments, I really like the Bluetooth functionality! I can stream Spotify and just discover new music effortlessly. I also think the BT sounds very good!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for sharing!

[@voltaireesteban7600]

The LDAC bluetooth sounds good enough for background music and non critical listening music whenever I'm working and have my phone in my desk playing Tidal, though found the bass more a bit "flabby" compared to wired connection..again not much that I can still enjoy the high res music.

[@divertiti]

Thomas you mentioned that the Topping is maybe 85% of the $4k DAC, but that's the thing about audio math, it's not linear. The last 15% of performance could make for 200% difference in satisfaction and enjoyment. The last 5% in imaging could mean the difference between suspending disbelief or not, the last 5% in musicality could mean the difference between having to turn off the system after awhile or able to listen for hours.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yup, I agree.In the high end world, a 2% increase is a lot. You see, I use 85% so people don't find I am exaggerating things and it is easier to understand. In my conversation with Mr Kanta, he gave it a higher number than 85% ,so that is why he is ok with the change. Also there are some sacrifices he has to live with the change, I will mention some in the upcoming Burson review.

[@rockfella27]

+ 80% speaker "business" is marketing BS .. one more factor we must understand all the time :)

[@afetarslani7426]

Would have been realy cool if you reviewed the Topping A90 amp also:p

[@OrganNLou]

Thomas, I appreciate what you do!

[@DBSTH0R]

For D90 owners: in order to get the best sound quality I recommend turning off BT entirely, and switching from PRE to DAC only mode . Changing these options is done by turning the unit off via power switch at the back, and then on again while holding the forward power button at the same time. This opens a set of options you can navigate via the two volume buttons at the front. YW :) Also, for whatever reason I prefer the filter no.2 - sounds slightly less clinical and more natural to my ears. Agreed on the point of not hearing a difference with a lower end systems. For this reason I sold my headphones which cost half the price of D90. The difference was more than obvious.

[@gw61]

Thanks for the sound demos. It helped me decide on the smsl m400.

[@StrangerInParadise58]

Did you choose the M400 over the D90? Thanks!

[@gw61]

@@StrangerInParadise58 I ended up buying the musician Pegasus. After having it in my system for a bit I sold my mytek Brooklyn dac+. I’m sticking with the Pegasus. But if I wanted a chip dac I would get the loxjie d50. Tharbamar did a good comparison on KZbin. And maybe the RME ADI 2.

[@Slant88]

This is a great example of your angle and voice in your reviews, which is you unique, insightful, informative and fun. So, how does it compare...

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Lol and thanks

[@zoranbabic249]

Would be nice to test Topping D90mqa vs Gustard A22, Gustard A22 has 2 akm 4499 chips, better power supply etc, i had both at home and in my system Gustard A22 is the winner, it is more open and transparent in higher register, middle and lower register is really close. I understand that many people use Topping D90 with for example focal speakers to calm down high register because they tend to have hot tweeters, but in full balanced system as mine, Gustard A22 was simple better. Only thing that Topping excelled was little faster transients but overall Gustard A22 is simple better, at list in my system and friends system also. My setup is Gustard A22 >lavricables silver interconnect > Roksan k3 integrated amp > Marohei Vortex V2 speaker cables > Falcon Acoustics RAM studio 20. Music is played via foobar (USB) configured as bit perfect (asio driver etc) and using remote controller for foobar on android mobile phone. For balansed systems Gustard A22 is winner, for overly harsh systems Topping D90 would be the winner. Also Roksan K3 integrated amp can work as preamp and as power amp, i also tried those two dacs as preamps and Roksan was working as power amp, but they simple can't match Roksan's preamp section, sound was thinner and a bit harsher what i don't like.

[@LuxAudio389]

Hi Thomas, You do really good work trying to get the best performance out of the pieces you have been reviewing, are good at finding the right people they fit, and explaining why with your friends' systems, and expierences. I have been following your channel closely since you started it because you are one of 2 KZbin reviewers that I know take the time to AB test things with the same/consistent music in audio clips. OCD Hi-Fi guy is the second one. Yes, there are different tastes in sound and performance which makes online shopping a nightmare or guessing game. That being said, your reviewed DACs are all pretty even and you have shown how they excel in certain areas. Like you said, these are definitely good times to get the sound one is after and not break the bank within perspective, but it's certainly not easy. However, you have brought the dealer experience to people's homes. Nothing against brick and mortar. I buy most of my stuff from my dealer Albert owner of Precision Audio Video in Chicago who does AB testing in the same room with whatever you want that he has or you can carry in from your system by appointment. Like you he knows synergy, understand current value, resale potential down the road, and accommodates his customer's tastes and helps them find what they are looking for in hopefully their budget. My favorite video thus far is the Orchard BOSC video where you REALLY spent some time studying the amp and finding what works with it. I have gone back and forth listening to your videos on DACs and was able to find the sound I liked and make a decision I can enjoy for a long while based on what you discovered and put together. It stands out to me that on that video you really understood the complexity in the technical requirements of the Orchard BOSC amp and its potential with the right equipment. I think it's one of your best videos because you actually gave your viewers options for a killer system, explained why, provided the sound samples with the same song clip in that and all your past reviews, and shared which tubes you used. This along with your stories is what helps me trust your conclusions. That video and my recent prior visit to my dealer made me realize that my home theater pre amp/ processor was not helping bring my Sopras to their full potential. You gave me a dilemma between the BOSC amps or my dealer's Bel Canto 600Ms. But you sold me on the importance of a good 2 ch preamp and the magic of the Burmester 897 which I lucked out by finding and just purchased from a seller in Germany. I also ordered the Musical Paradise MPD1MK3 with the tubes you used. Last you provided another great alternative to a preamp with the option of going with a very economical, but damn good Schitt Freya with tubes you selected and have kindly shared. I was only able to really only make a decision by convientley using my resolving Shure SE846 IEM's with my Dragonfly on my S10 since KZbin is not set up for critical listening on full blown Hi-Fi rigs. I'll update you once I get everything else ordered and incorporated. Thanks for really doing good work and also for not reccomending something that is not returnable or stood by. Your video and disclosure with Orchard's BOSC return policy really cemented that you are not going to review and reccomend something that may not work out in your viewer's systems no matter how good it is. Thanks again

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Wow, thanks for letting me know. Yeah, I try to recommend gear that you are able to return. The MP, make sure you change to some decent 6922 tubes when you get it. The one that came with it has low gain. To be fair, I never really try the stock tube and gave it time to break in. The BOSC amp, be VERY careful how you plug it, never unplug anything when it is on. Also, another youtuber who is about to post his review of the BOSC amp told me he loves it BUT it really depends on which speaker. Some speaker it did not do too well so that is why it is very important for me that there is a return policy.

[@LuxAudio389]

@@ThomasAndStereo Will do, thanks for the advice👍

[@blejzerosamigos6115]

Great video Thomas as always thanks a lot, I have d90, got it back in March and really liked it 👍👍

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Nice 👍

[@stijnvanderlooy5311]

Congratulations on this nice video. Liked that you spend time on the relativity of the term giant killer. My first video here and i will come back

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Welcome to my channel.

[@mementomori4760]

Loving the sushi vs fried rice analogy 👌

[@angelgrant1609]

Another great review, I just ordered mine . Thank you

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@joshualee3511]

I would love to hear what you think about the RME ADI-2 DAC fs.

[@RexNathanChan]

Thank you for new videos! Great production quality too 👍👍😀😀

[@netnakul]

Designs based on AK4499 chip doesn't seem to disappoint.

[@uhugvjkbkjh]

Exactly, altho Soncoz do get alot from sabre chips. waiting for Topping E50 with AKM

[@jbence6128]

The schiit gungnir would be the best Dac to compare the Topping D90 to. They both utilize a higher end Ak delta sigma chip. The Bifrost only comes in Multi-bit now, though I would be very interested in your findings on how the sound differs. I would love to see a comparison of the Topping E30 and the Schiit Modi Multibit, then comparing to higher price dacs.These are two true entry level DACs but have received great reviews. I feel that you are one of the most objective reviewers on KZbin and would do a great job with this comparison. Thanks Thomas for all your hard work and quality content you create. ✌🏻

[@eetu2532]

The Multibit is for listeners who prefer a warm, 'analog' type of sound. The E30 is transparent, doesn't sound like anything. Both get good reviews but from two different perspectives, hope this helps.

[@paznewis107]

Good video 👍. You and Mr Beekhausen are becoming the philosophy department of KZbin hi-fi. 😺🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🐙

[@michaellok9918]

Hi Thomas, me and my brother really enjoy your review. We like the idea of involving your buddies especially Mr Kanta to get his comments at times. Can I suggest you do consider reviewing Matrix Audio X Sabre Pro as part of your DAC comparison. Not much reviews on Matrix so far. It would be nice to know how it fare against the higher end DACs like Gustard X26 & Denafrips Pontus ??

[@ThomasAndStereo]

That DAC is $2k! Looks amazing. I might some day but right now I have a few more DACs to review and I am pausing my DACs review after going thru what I have.

[@hoboman1206]

Thomas I'm so excited. i FINALLY ordered the marantz pm8006. I got my triangle titus ez. and was looking for a dac. I was going to go with schiit cuz i always have been using their stuff. but now I have this to look foward to. can't wait

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Congrats! I have the PM 5003 ( I think or 5002) and I really like it. Now , I have never heard the Titus EZ and hopefully it is a good match.

[@hoboman1206]

Thomas & Stereo tbh im curious to see if theres going to be a difference between the d90 and my schiit modi. since my system isnt super high end

[@N0va]

Loving your videos! You got a new sub! keep up the informative great vids!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Welcome aboard!

[@DDD-jk5sh]

00:15:03 - D90 to AMP 00:16:03 -D90 to LS25 Preamp Listening via my vintage Theta DSPro DAC (a Mike Moffat gem), Topping A90 (sister headphone amp the D90) and HifIman Arya - I can easily hear the clarity changes from the direct to amp and via the preamp. I would say that the preamp is limiting the total resolution rather significantly. Was the D90 in full "DAC mode" when using it with the LS25?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I think so.

[@shimofo1]

Do it! Test the Bifrost 2!!!

[@Claymore64]

I've found the D90 can be greatly improved by using a grounding box, adding the Uptone ISO Regen ( ISO on ) and giving it some ( in my case ) cheap isolation footers. Also a good power cable is advisable. I also power the D90 from a decent copper wired two way mains block. A really significant boost in SQ was achieved with these additions.

[@MichaelCollins-me]

Thanks for the review! Still undecided between this and SMSL M400. I think I'm leaning towards M400.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Either one will be a good choice.

[@MichaelCollins-me]

@@ThomasAndStereo Thanks!

[@voltaireesteban7600]

Michael.. you would know from your preference. Thomas' analogy was simply relatable whether you prefer taste of Mr.Vintage(M400) or Mr.Kanta(D90). Cheers!

[@dailyfrenchie9047]

Love that you're drawing attention to these products. Would love to see you review some NOS DAC's and compare. Something like SW1X, Border Patrol, Audio Mirror, MHDT, etc.

[@MrMftech]

Excellent review: 12m 12s you nail it...btw good editing and sound...

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Glad you liked it!

[@eddiechan5013]

Really love your review, I like how you review a unit with Mr. vintage and Mr. Kanta. Will you consider reviewing Holo Audio Spring 2 ? Its a very popular R2R unit.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, I don't think so as I will stop reviewing DACs for a while.

[@scslite5206]

Hi Thomas, Thanks for this review and I actually almost got the D90 but have opted for the Bifrost 2 instead. Although I'm enjoying the Bifrost 2 right now it would be great if you review it against the D90, Ares II, that you already have and hear your opinion. All are in the same price level and would be great as I haven't seen anyone comparing even the Ares II to the Bifrost 2 which are probably the closest as far as R2R configurations go.

[@onshim2456]

SC Slite Currawong actually compares the two and he prefers the bifrost 2

[@anthonyhopkin]

Hi Thomas - thanks for another excellent discussion. So good that I had to watch it twice ;¬) over. So useful. The only addition that I could suggest would be for you to describe what more you get in your reference Exasound DAC compared to the character of each of these 'entry level' models. I think that we all enjoy hearing more about your taste. Greetings and very best wishes.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, it is the way my DAC rounds of the edges that makes it sound more analog. I have people over who are really into vinyl and when they listen to my DAC, they don't hear a hint of 'digital'. The only downside to my DAC is the soundstage is not big.

[@anthonyhopkin]

@@ThomasAndStereo It sounds as if your DAC gives less ;¬) (harshness as well as width/depth). Interesting that you prefer smoothness to soundstage in the trade-off. I have been looking at the Newer model E32 II DAC for when I eventually have to move away from an integrated (Devialet) DAC/Pre/Power integrated device. Thanks Thomas for your reply - much appreciated - and your excellent reviews. Keep up the great video conversation. We seem to have similar aims : Smoothness with clarity, 3D soundstage, expressive detailed powerful bass, etc. Doesn't seem like too much to ask for. It seems that each of these goals are so very much closer to our grasp now than e.g. 10 years ago. And at less than telephone number prices. Greetings to you and yours.

[@RedSinter]

That ending Music put a big smile on my face.

[@RedSinter]

And regardless of hearing it over my phone...the speakers playing that toe tapper...disappeared... While your selection didn't offer low bass extension I have little doubt it wouldn't if called upon. lol...This is a yes or no answer to a question I'm going to pose. Do you think it is possible to achieve, by way of small passive or active speakers for under a grand a close approximation to that level of detail and clarity with a Tad ore warmth? Or let me clarify that slightly speakers with the clarity and slightly warm presence I got from hearing yours? Oh, lol... I need to qualify "Small Speakers" WxHxD, 20.32 Cm, x 38.1Cm, x38.1Cm. That's the constraint. And as you pointed out its unfair to purchase for 30 days if you really have no true desire to keep the speaker. And I hate running back and forth to Fed X, don't you?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It is possible to achieve the same sound characteristic but not the same level.

[@RedSinter]

@@ThomasAndStereo lol, Of that Thomas I have absolutely no doubt. As recently l sat and listened to a selection of pieces l liked and while loving what I was enjoying it would not constitute a great environment nor optimal musically it was what it was, but it was also an examination of what I don't particularly want from or how the music presented. Still l did enjoy the contrast by the musicians and the differing recording styles that was eye opening. And yet again, Thank You for being the every man's... Thinking Man's Audiophile.

[@thomaswipf7986]

If you think short delay, sharp rolloff sounds wonky(delayed) and artifical, you are correct. Try the Burson Composer 3X. Also, the output stage is much better. I'm not asking for more like the D90 paired with Yamaha A-S2100 & Lsim707. The preamp in A-S2100 is plenty good for a sub $1500 DAC. Mcintosh C49 & MC152 will probably get more out of Lsim707s. :D Thanks to Sean @ Capitol Home Theater in Va for the recommendations and great deals!

[@Rayradityaa]

is it audible if i change my musical fidelity v90 dac to this one? especially for sound quality

[@csszabi8779]

Test about SMSL VMV D1 DAC? I bought a factory packaged Focal Electra 1038 BE (miracle) speakers. (These are running-in period). I currently have a Topping D50 DAC. There is a synergy between Topping - Focal, but I think these speakers deserve a better DAC. For example, a Topping D90 or an SMSL VMV D1...

[@raulernesto2488]

I'm gonna get it... just saw it in the used market for a great price! Thnx Thomas :)

[@asifkhan434]

Sushi and fried rice. Brilliant analogy 🤣. Was worried after your M400 review as I own a D90. Mr. Kanta = Detail/clarity/separation. He's the man. I like him. Wish you could have given more details on Ares 2 vs D90. Thanks for the great review though.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Great to hear!

[@johnsoriano3812]

Great insight on the D90.

[@robk5745]

Sushi vs fried rice, honestly the best analogy ever Thomas 😂. Love it. Clarity, separation and 3D are exactly my same impressions. No secret that I love focal too 👍

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Cool!😁 Have to give credit to Mr. Kanta, he came up with that.

[@jackryder6732]

Hi There to All. I want to shout out to Thomas for his humbleness, quick to respond and being honest. That is why I subscribe his channel and promote to others to do. He takes time and effort to help his viewers. My recent experience with Zero fedility blew me off. He responded to my enquiry after a month. When I asked why so late in response as I am trying to build my system and educating myself. His response was un professional, rude and un real. So I have pulled my subscription from his channel. Forget about apologizing he argued. Ha ha. Infront of camera most have a big smile. You will be surprise the other way arround. Just a thought of the day...

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks Jack and I appreciate the shout out. I do want to say I do understand Sean. We get so many emails and sometimes I don't answer because I forget. I might check my email at 1 am at night and decide to answer the next day but forget. When you get a few emails everyday and some of these emails take a lot of time to answer, it really adds up so I hope people can understand me if Idon't answer or answer late.

[@jackryder6732]

@@ThomasAndStereo I totally understand, I respect that. Its the way he responded and how unprofessional he was. Big smile when recording, totally different when no camera rolling. Thank you.

[@dudemastermaster8944]

Jack Ryder give this guy a break. He doesn’t own you anything. Are you “friendly” and “professional” every day every time? Mad respect for not giving respect.

[@jackryder6732]

@@dudemastermaster8944 everyone has their opinion. The least a human can do is accept if they are wrong in anyway. As they teach in school do the right thing. Arrogance and pride takes a person no better place. When they want view's they are smiling, be extra nice and when we correct them or pinpoint something we didn't like. They act like a monkey...

[@dudemastermaster8944]

Jack Ryder sounds reasonable. Enjoy the music dude and keep on rocking in the real world

[@jungtarcph]

Sound is so clear in the video...

[@csszabi8779]

I think a warmer-sounding DAC fits a Focal speakers. I have a Focal Chorus 716S speaker with a Rotel RA-985BX (2x100W, damping factor: 400) amplifier. I've bought a Topping D50 2 years ago. The system has become much more audible than with the previous DAC (E-mu 1212m). If I manage to buy a Focal 1038Be, then I will invest in a Topping D90.

[@Dilyaev]

Cables, jumpers, interconnects, usb cables, hdmi cables, coax, toslink, sample rate of my windows 10, asio4all, softwares can all alter the sound to my liking.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yup, exactly, knowledge in system matching is really important.

[@RyuMasterEX]

Operating system, processes priority, pc hardware, power cables, hard drive type and location for software and music files, Software settings change it further

[@junior-OG]

@@RyuMasterEX lol

[@bobe3250]

I love reviews on DAC's. Over the last year they really have taught me what they do and what to be listening for. I have a lot of different systems and want to move the DAC around to various systems. I am on the lookout for a budget transport system for op amp revolving (Changing them out). Some cases out there need more clearance for the larger op amps (Burson Vintage/Classic) and I would like to hear if anyone knows if there is a budget DAC that can do that.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

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[@bobe3250]

@@ThomasAndStereo thank you! I watched that review. It's my top pick. Was hoping to find one that you didn't have to turn it upside down or it stick out of the case. I'm going to end up getting it though. I like everything else about what was described.

[@realworldwork4053]

Hello Sir your communication is outstanding is awesome. The way you speak is lovely. I bought DX3 Pro and liked it. But I am a beginner in this world and very very new . Please tell me in simple terms how I can connect the input devices to this Dac and how can I connect a headphone or speaker and listen to the music. Thank you much

[@joeythedime1838]

Hi Thomas - great review as always. I was wondering your thoughts about a DAC for my T+A PA3000HV integrated amp. I was using the DAC in my T+A MP3000HV, which is a Double-Differential-Quadruple-Converter with 4 D/A-converters per channel, TI/Burr-Brown 32-Bit Sigma Delta design. This DAC is slight warm and do very much enjoy the sound signature. But being about 8 years old it does lack some decoding capabilities plus not needing a reference CD player anymore - I can recoup some rack space. Are there a few DAC's that you might recommend I start auditioning?

[@chuhermann3991]

Hi Thomas! Great review! I am currently driving my Focal 1028 with Mc MA7000 (250W). Considering a DAC for my streamer. Appreciate your view whether SMSL M400 or Topping D90 better suits my system. Mainly Jazz....No Rock...Cheers!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Both are great. If you want smoother, smsl m400 with RCA out, sharper D90

[@precisioncolors1920]

What some of your followers will need to understand is that the chip itself whether it is an AKM or ESS Sabre has a small contribution to the ending result of how the product sounds. Implementation of a design or the circuitry around the chip itself is a major contributor to the sound. Of the circuits surrounding the DAC chip, the most significant is the power supply. Typically a less performing power supply or not technically superior results in a more warm wooly sound. Technically superior power supplies with superb low noise and high bandwidth results more often in a more transparent open and dynamic sound where the listener can actually turn down the volume and still have the same satisfaction. I auditioned the D90 for a couple weeks to discover what so many are saying is a superb DAC and it is good. However I found that the midrange warmth was severely lacking. The bass extension is there but it does not have the weight and coherency that better DACs had. Marrying the D90 with a tube front end will mask the midrange weakness. If your speakers don't have the extension then the weight and coherency will not be noticed. For the price it is a fine achievement but it is not an end game DAC as so many reviewers have said. However in looking at the design of the D90, certainly another company will come along with superior circuits shortly that will allow the AKM4499 to come out the shell. Companies like Topping etc. build DACs to a price point and the result is a balance of performance and cost using the most effective chips that are low cost. What needs to be improved is simply something that costs more. The power supplies. So what displaces the D90 in my system, an older 9028PRO with better power supplies that was 2 years into modifications. However the typical viewer will not be capable of that. The potential of the AKM4499 is there but still not fully harnessed as yet by mass market manufacturers. Wait a few more months and a smaller mfr will come out with something much better.....with a much higher price tag. Much better power supplies end up costing a significant amount. Always remember it is not the chip but the implementation that is very important.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I understand where you are coming from regarding the midrange warmth but I don't think it is a bad thing. The reason I say this is because I have met enough audiophiles to know that some people actually look for that. I do agree that the power supply plays an important role and the DAC chip itself is not as important as people think. Thanks Thomas Tan

[@miguelangelibarra8768]

Hi Thomas. Should I use a pre amp (Like the Pre90 or other) between the D90 and a Willsenton R8 amplifier? Do you think it will sound better than only connecting the D90 in DAC Mode directly to the Willsenton R8? Please advise. Congratulations and thank you for your great channel.

[@CoreProject05]

Hi Thomas. I have a yamaha rx-a2080, klipsch rp-280f-s. I pretty much like the sound through tidal audirvana-upnp. I purchased a gustard X16 to try it out, to me it sounded detailed and instruments well separated but pretty much 2D compared to the yamaha (this surprised me a bit), and I definitely missed the weight in mid range. What would you suggest if I want to use MQA a) don't use MQA and just stick to level 1 unfold and upnp with all of its limitations, because I won't notice anything due to yamaha's poor measurements on ADC b) m400 c) topping d90

[@ohnonate]

Thanks Thomas for the reviews. Any idea wich DAC would go well with the Navis ARB51 Active speakers ? Topping D90 or the SMSL 400? Help please thank you.

[@DDD-jk5sh]

00:15:03 - Topping D90 direct to Lumin amp 00:16:03 - Topping D90 via Audio Research LS25 preamp

[@grubaskarpeta]

Amazing how much better it sounds with the pre-amp

[@ltlai9465]

Finally, get to know the difference of AK4499 in these two different brand (SMSL M400 and Topping D90), cheers. Will you consider to do another video on AK4499 (M400/D90) against the ESS9038Pro (D1) - just want to know their difference is fare enough? Or perhaps one step further - another video on these giant killer DAC pair with some same category pre-amp such as the Gustard P26 or something similar? Can't wait...

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I might do the Gustard X26 but debating as I have done too many DAC videos. Or do a very short one.

[@thomaswipf7986]

I've gravitated to running this DAC @ -18db which is because it lacks voice any lower, distorts any higher paired w/ Yamaha A-S2100. I'm replacing w/ Burson Composer 3X Performance or Gustard X22. I need more signal before harshness. Listening on Lsim707 w/ Type 4 AQ. About to step up w/ rocket 44 & Mackenzie XLR :D

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

Dang i learned something important thanks Thomas ! You was so right about comparing audio !

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for dropping by!

[@annelouisemendoza394]

Very nice and straight forward review.

[@dfknyc78]

Thomas, ask Apos to send you the Musetec MH-DA004 for review. I've read on some forums that the Musetec is not only a giant killer but can kill multiple giants at the same time. I want to get it, but I can only trust your review!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Looks amazing, I am trying to avoid reviewing DACs now. I do have the AUNE S8 in for review.

[@benoitdugas745]

Hi Thomas great job as usual. Would you say it would be a good fit on my old Integrated mcintosh with whaferdale speakers that has soft dôme tweeters (round off on the high end)?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It would make sense if you need some help with giving it a bit more sharpness. I still have one more video coming and with that you can decide.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

I listen to lots of different music styles, from metal to jazz to Aurora (a genre on her own;). Got a new bluenode 2i with qobus. Curious if this would be a proper match. Currently the mid and high do very well but low is a bit inconsistent. Had to replace my poweramp unexpected. Is an Arcam p240 now. The pre is an older marantz av8003. Most likely the issue is there. I love this hobby lol

[@datdudeinred]

Thomas it will be really cool to see d90 vs x26 but if possible can you get gustard a22 & compare that to x26 (best AKM4499 vs es9038pro comparison possible & you'll be only one to do it) or you can make a 3 way comparison between 3 best giant killer Dac's (also you can add lks digital dac in the mix if you ask Apos.. 😂)

[@toddhupp]

Would be interested in a comparison of the AK based dacs( eg D90) vs Saber ( eg Mdac+.) and maybe a ladder dac.

[@tshnob]

Enjoy ur detail n interesting review. 👍👍👍💯

[@carmenstafinski8268]

Thomas I have a macintosh ma252 and the speakers are elac f6.2 with a elac sub 3010 and an audio lab 6000cdt transport. Which dac would you pair my systems with. I listen to a lot of acoustic music ie jazz, folk etc.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Depends what you are looking for, if you want max sharpness, then D90 and Gustard. Least is SMSL M400. Burson is in between. If you want neutral vocal, then Burson and SMSL. Ultimately, anyone one of them is good, just depends what you want.

[@37506]

Thomas, for my cayin 55s tube amp , which DAC would I buy? an smsl 400 or a Topping D90, I have a PSB synchrony 1b speakers. please advice and why? thank you in advance.

[@dajikbatarang1]

Seems like the m400 is more up my alley. My system is sharp as is.

[@cruzzeaudiochanel2581]

You need to try Musician Pegasus R2R DAC...you will have a very good surprise 😎

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I should!

[@RP-mm9ie]

Please review a warm non fatiguing dac,thanks.

[@wojciechczupta]

Thomas, do you have any experience with Schiit Ygdrasil and Denafrips Terminator? I use Ygdrasil and thinking would there be any substantial improvement with Terminator or something else which doesn't break the bank

[@ezhani00]

Tomas. Could you review the Gustard D22, I want to hear your opinion about D90 VS Gustard D22.

[@mardak2871]

Where can we buy Topping D90 in Toronto? Superb review Thank you?

[@klaymoon1]

Have you tried HQPlayer to upsample everything to DSD512? For humble ears, it's utterly good!! You need a decent performance PC, but I recommend it to anyone with Topping D90. Also, I strongly recommend using D90 as DAC mode, not preamp mode. For my shitty ears, it sounded better that way.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

No I have not, will try one day.

[@klaymoon1]

@@ThomasAndStereo I hope you like it! At least try the DAC mode (no volume control).

[@wim1983]

For the price paid, I think they can make the DAC more analog outlook and operate...build quality and design concept need to revise.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Mr Kanta prefers the look of the SMSL M400.

[@IsaacChew]

Wow. Now your B rolls are so nice.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, appreciate it.

[@alexiheaka6128]

Thomas thank you for your posting; you have been very informative. I’m curious to know how you would compare the Topping vs Denafrips Terminator please.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I never heard the Terminator so I would not know, sorry.

[@alexiheaka6128]

Thomas & Stereo thank you for the response. Its called Denafrips Terminator. I don’t know why I thought you reviewed the DAC.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Sorry I meant I never heard the DAC before.

[@hermansusanto9959]

I hv an Old KRELL CD Player , will the sound improve by combine with such DAC . Seeing the technology keeping improved with time

[@Old_Sailor85]

I like the reviews, but I hardly consider $700-$800 for a DAC as "entry level".

[@mylign]

It’s all relative and so you are certainly not wrong!

[@slyiutsan7163]

In chinese company there is a saying, equipment under $10000 just generating a "sound" (not music). D90 obviously position under entry level.

[@Old_Sailor85]

@@slyiutsan7163 Really? $10k? Using that logic an acceptable system would start at $50,000. That would be a very small market.

[@slyiutsan7163]

@@Old_Sailor85 of course, just a joke, meaning the hifi devices' price are out of reason

[@prathibha1230]

Hi Thomas, I'm grappling between D90 & Aries II, which one better is of-course subjective, & , I like warmer presentation overall but I don't have means to listen & compare in my area, so I'd like your input on this comparison. thanks in advance, I have Totem Model 1 Sig. speakers and Schiitt Saga & Bel canto S300.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I prefer the D90 but that is just my subjective opinion and it happens to work better in my system. Take a look at my SMSL M400 and Burson composer DAC video too. The thing is with these DAC, you have the option to return if you don't like.

[@brycejeannotte7699]

Thomas, have you had the opportunity to compare the Topping D90 to the newer D90SE? I just wondered what affect the change to the ESS ES9028PRO has had on this product.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yes search for my topping Pre90 video

[@lonestar1664]

are you going to review SMSL SU9? it is half the price of M400 quite eager to know the comparison with D90 amd M400. Thanks

[@geraldgreene5563]

Hi Thomas, I have a bluesound node 2i..I’m thinking about buying a Denafrips Aries II dac as right now I’m using the bluesound’s internal dac.. which sounds very good.. Is it worth the upgrade to Denafrips or even the chord qutetest. Thanks

[@ThomasAndStereo]

If you are using airplay, wait for my Matrix Mini Pro review.

[@geraldgreene5563]

@@ThomasAndStereo I never use airplay...I use tidal and amazon HD built into the bluesound software

[@Luca84v]

That’s a really good question Gerald. I have the first version of Bluesound node streamer, would i benefits in pairing with the Topping D90?!

[@brucelavender]

@ Thomas & Stereo would this DAC be a good choice paired with the Buchardt S400? If not do you have a different recommendation?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Either that one or the Matrix Mini i Pro 3. However, watch my Matrix Element I video because I made the arguement all these DACs have the same 'characteristic'. S400 can be a bit shouty and I personally would like a bit more warmth with it,. Perhaps the SMSL m400.

[@brucelavender]

@@ThomasAndStereo I was thinking of using the DAC with the XTZ Sound Edge A2-300 Stereo Amplifier. Would you recommend me using a separate preamp or is the preamp capabilities in the SMSL m400 sufficient?

[@congmac1667]

Hi Thomas. Big fan of your videos. Tell me how does this Dac compare to bluesound node 2i’s dac. Is it a huge improvement??

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It is but your system needs to be really good to hear the difference.

[@0177MrGreen]

So which streaming DAC have you listened to that impressed you the most? Topping is nice, but it is not a streamer (can not play from USB-stick at least), and adding a good source would cost some extra to it as well. Mytek Brooklin Bridge looks nice, Lumin (T2 at least), and then there is Cambridge Edge NQ - quite pricey. And then there is the whole bunch of names that I never heard before. Would you give a hint, suggestions on which directions to look at? Thanks Thomas.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It is all a question of price. I will be getting a Matrix streamer for review soon. That one however cannot use a usb stick, they do have one that can use USB stick. If the one I am getting is good enough, then perhaps I will look into the one that accept usb stick.