BELIEVE IT OR NOT THIS IS A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT...

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LOOK MUM NO COMPUTER

LOOK MUM NO COMPUTER

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@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER 3 ай бұрын
IT NOW IS MODIFIED FOR MIDI kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3q1f5d9r9yeqsU
@KeritechElectronics
@KeritechElectronics 3 ай бұрын
The most stylish stylophone! :)
@KeritechElectronics
@KeritechElectronics 2 ай бұрын
@@5cyndi Fran-tastic! :)
@soillodge
@soillodge 2 ай бұрын
I noticed the way the frequency would change when you applied more pressure/connectivity to the alligator clips. Have you considered a CV sequencer to operate it? Cheers.
@king_ofgames3650
@king_ofgames3650 2 ай бұрын
Why don’t you use the organ PCBS to send 24v into the switch board
@ChrisTackettMusic
@ChrisTackettMusic 2 ай бұрын
Wire it in as a rank with Joan's organ! Use what you already have to be able to play it. You'll probably need to create some other bits to MIDI-fy it, but in the end you'd have what would amount to the first MIDI-ed Compton organ, and from there clever folk with organ sampling technology could sample and preserve these sounds and make them usable today.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 ай бұрын
That is ridiculous! I love those etched/routed tone discs.
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 3 ай бұрын
I trust your opinion, as you are familiar with the ridiculous.
@PhilR0gers
@PhilR0gers 3 ай бұрын
Ah! Love it when the worlds of my favourite KZbin channels collide!
@fburton8
@fburton8 3 ай бұрын
Yes! They're so... explicit!
@richardsavage2
@richardsavage2 2 ай бұрын
@@PhilR0gersexactly my thought!
@LordDragox412
@LordDragox412 2 ай бұрын
Some wizard out there is mighty confused why people are calling the magic circles "tone discs".
@Stadsjaap
@Stadsjaap 3 ай бұрын
"What instrument do you play...? "The 18V hammer drill." 😂
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER 3 ай бұрын
haha. the warmest sounding power tool brand
@martinunetic5567
@martinunetic5567 3 ай бұрын
@Stadsjaap your comment reminded me of Einsturzende Neubauten and playing the angle grinder 😁
@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ
@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ 3 ай бұрын
Percussion drill.
@TDOBrandano
@TDOBrandano 3 ай бұрын
Well, I have seen someone play an angle grinder for precussions on stage, and naturally there's Einstuerzende Neubauten that regularly play compressor turbines, haemostatic rubber bands, teacups, a shopping cart etc.
@LeonEvans_Guyver1
@LeonEvans_Guyver1 2 ай бұрын
Mr. Big from 1991 enters the chat...
@spacehitchhiker4264
@spacehitchhiker4264 3 ай бұрын
Looks like something you'd use to break the enigma cipher.
@dickseevens8099
@dickseevens8099 2 ай бұрын
That was my first thought! A Turing number cruncher...
@blancfilms
@blancfilms 2 ай бұрын
My first thought too. Looks like that machine that Turing built. Bomba or something I think it was called.
@ScruffyMisguidedAndBlue
@ScruffyMisguidedAndBlue 2 ай бұрын
Instead they used it to break out the Enigma Variations!
@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug
@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug 2 ай бұрын
@@blancfilmsYes! Btw. "Bomba" was the Polish machine that the British machine was developed from called "Bombe"
@NORMIES_GET_OUT
@NORMIES_GET_OUT 2 ай бұрын
Reporter: "Mr. Turing, now that the war is over, what do you think you will focus your efforts on next?" Alan Turing: "Well, I was thinking about building an instrument..."
@peter.stimpel
@peter.stimpel 3 ай бұрын
"The conclusion on this video isnt great" - Pardon, it is a great video about a great piece of technology. Thanks for bringing it online, Sam.
@stulora3172
@stulora3172 2 ай бұрын
absolutely. All of their videos are so damn inspiring!!
@Juttutin
@Juttutin 2 ай бұрын
It's like when you set out on the first day of a journey you've been planning for ages, and the sun is shining, the views are beautiful, and by the end of day one, you're well on your way.
@keyboardtek
@keyboardtek 2 ай бұрын
I was an electronic organ, digital piano, synth tech for 37 years. When I first got hired, my employer explained all the various tone generation designs the various manufacturers had come up with through the years. They were extremely varied and extremely clever. This is one I have never seen.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 2 ай бұрын
OK that's pretty scary. Probably a lot of avoiding patent infringement.
@matthewseymour8972
@matthewseymour8972 3 ай бұрын
The look of delight when successfully playing a tone generator with a drill...
@unixerius6632
@unixerius6632 3 ай бұрын
You marvelous nutter. I'm having a VERY rough day with loss and you manage to make me laugh, with your comments and expressions, at a time that it's sorely needed.
@docthorr
@docthorr 2 ай бұрын
Be gentle with yourself, you'll get through 💪😘
@buzzedalldrink9131
@buzzedalldrink9131 2 ай бұрын
@@docthorrwhats a nutter?
@zdenek7220
@zdenek7220 3 ай бұрын
That spinner you've opened took my breath.
@Graham_Rule
@Graham_Rule 2 ай бұрын
Those disks are amazing. Primary tone plus a selection of harmonics all in one. Even changed tones by having irregular shapes. What I find most astonishing is that this was probably all built by very skilled people with excellent hearing who could match the sound with old pipe organs. Oh, and they probably also avoided touching the 500V lines.
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 2 ай бұрын
I would take a bet at them recording organ samples on vynil, and then observing them through a microscope to match it. Or the more boring way through an oscilloscope. Still takes a lot of knowledge and skill, but the coolest part is how they even came up with that method of generating the tones.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 2 ай бұрын
@@Kalvinjj but wait what decade is this because that oscilloscope might be a giant tube operated thing! Which means it's still impressive!
@Richardincancale
@Richardincancale 3 ай бұрын
What an amazing set of ideas went into that! The tone wheels effectively varying the capacitance as they revolve, according to the shape of the pattern! Really analogue! And those 2D relays to link the keys via the selected stops - you can see that the designer was really thinking about traditional wind-boxes in organs with their 2D structure - and at the same time as you say, looking like cross-bar telephone selectors! Absolutely magic - I’m glad it still makes sound and look forward to seeing it Midi-fied!
@markschweter6371
@markschweter6371 2 ай бұрын
Those test panels REALLY going to save time building an interface... don't need to trace ALL THOSE WIRES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😏😉😎
@OmegaSparky
@OmegaSparky 2 ай бұрын
🤯🤯🤯🤯 Wow. I love the ingenuity. It really is an analog sample playback machine. So many possibilities.
@MostlyPennyCat
@MostlyPennyCat 2 ай бұрын
​@@OmegaSparky Just need a way to etch some metal. I wonder what the metal is...
@lapub.
@lapub. 2 ай бұрын
@@MostlyPennyCat Usually aluminium.
@CulinarySpy
@CulinarySpy 2 ай бұрын
I have overhauled one of these Compton electrostatic tone generator organs. It is a delicate business re-coating rotor surfaces and the adjusting the gaps between rotors and stators, then voicing and filtering the outputs. Lots of fun!
@p60091
@p60091 2 ай бұрын
must have been quite an undertaking
@douro20
@douro20 2 ай бұрын
Are there any left which have the ultralinear tube amp?
@MostlyPennyCat
@MostlyPennyCat 2 ай бұрын
What are the rotors coated in? What are the different waveforms in the rotor for? It's filtered? How? I have a million questions.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 2 ай бұрын
It looks and sounds frigging awesome! Who needs transistors when gears, pulleys and relays will do!
@timballam3675
@timballam3675 2 ай бұрын
Not quite in the same league as the Bendix air computer though is it 😀
@QuanrumPresence
@QuanrumPresence 2 ай бұрын
I was looking for your comment on this beauty!
@i_never_asked_for_an_alias
@i_never_asked_for_an_alias 3 ай бұрын
Truly amazing. Imagine slapping the blueprints of this whole thing on the table these days: "Hey guys, i have an idea."
@stitchfinger7678
@stitchfinger7678 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, with how complex electromechanic are, its crazy some of the things people were actually willing to engineer, fund, and physically construct.
@tsm688
@tsm688 2 ай бұрын
@@stitchfinger7678 I have to think that, even then, there were better ways to do it. Look how many outputs those tone wheels have. The amount of redundancy seems insane. Was this organ capable of playing every key simultaneously?
@NinoJoel
@NinoJoel 2 ай бұрын
​@@tsm688I wouldn' call them redundant. More "voices / possibly stacked mean greater depth in sound. There is a reason some crazy people put together the Yamaha Rack monstrosity that held 8 or more Yamaha DX7s to play via midi
@tsm688
@tsm688 2 ай бұрын
@@NinoJoel they did that because they thought it'd be a cool use for 8 yamaha dx7's. You don't actually need to do that to get the effect.
@NinoJoel
@NinoJoel 2 ай бұрын
@@tsm688 have you ever used one? I don't know how you want to make such sound depth without Manny Manny voices stacked. Sure you could record one and duplicate the recording but that's not very live play friendly now is it
@incandescentconker6193
@incandescentconker6193 3 ай бұрын
What a wonderful machine. *Please* show the output of one of those wheels on an oscilloscope
@ScornfulEg0tist
@ScornfulEg0tist 3 ай бұрын
I really enjoy how close to a computer this stuff is but even so, it's still so beautifully arcane. Those electrostatic spinners and the etching look way too beautiful to function. playing the spare with a drill was literally witchcraft
@GerinoMorn
@GerinoMorn 3 ай бұрын
Oh, you're right! I guess one could play with the waveforms and even essentially get analogue computer out of it, doing some math using wave interference... if only I had infinite time xD
@burmesecolourneedles4680
@burmesecolourneedles4680 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic! I used to know an amazing old engineer who lived in Ramsgate, Brian Carpenter. He rescued several of these Comptons and had them running (also a 3 manual pipe organ he had built himself!) in one of the large Victorian houses on Marlborough Road.
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER 3 ай бұрын
Wonder what happenned to it all?
@Nukle0n
@Nukle0n 3 ай бұрын
How many British houses had an organ built in? Did the Council know? 😜
@Magnum3144
@Magnum3144 2 ай бұрын
Dear God, when you adjust the tension on those wheels, the slowed tones sound so eerie. Like the world is melting
@matekovacs2696
@matekovacs2696 2 ай бұрын
The inside of those tone generators is just beautiful. Whoever invented this was a genius. They didn't have transistors or fancy ICs, they had relays, motors, metal, and Maxwell's laws. And they still made music. Also, manufacturing these could've been a real chore. A modern CNC would make short work of it, but back then this was made by hand, or with a manually controlled mill. The mechanisms they must've came up with to make perfect sine waves (or the other more intricate waveforms) are equally fascinating, I'm sure.
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 3 ай бұрын
Martin: “It would be so cool to play tight music with that instrument using marbles.”
@envisionelectronics
@envisionelectronics 2 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I thought about when I saw this thing.
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 2 ай бұрын
@@envisionelectronics - I am waiting for Martin to add this machine to his marble machine ;) And I admit it would be cool - but that marble machine might never play music if he sets out to add this.
@freeculture
@freeculture 2 ай бұрын
@@stevebabiak6997 considering the time it took to build the 2nd one... he is on the 3rd yet? maybe by the 4th one... If these two guys get together a singularity will occur.
@fathomisticfantasy2681
@fathomisticfantasy2681 2 ай бұрын
My mentor on the electronic side is an organ repairman. He showed me a much smaller version of the organ sound generator like those. It looked just like a metal brick with axels coming out its sides. My other mentor keeps me on par with acoustic pianos. Just to keep my story strait. My electronics mentor began having issues with walking on a problematic leg. So, getting an episode on organs is a real treat. Much friendly love. Lily
@mikegeary8056
@mikegeary8056 3 ай бұрын
You could etch a tone wheel like one makes an etching or lithograph. Coat the disk with etching “tar” scratch in the waveforms then submerge it in acid. Then wash off the tar, the acid will have etched where the waveforms where scratched in and not where the tar was. There’s more modern was to make etchings with less harmful chemicals etc. I haven’t made an etching since the 90’s. The new techniques are friendlier. Man you could scratch in some wild waveforms. Maybe a wavetable type scenario. This is so cool. Such a perfect example of sound and art. I’m inspired.
@frederickbaugher8361
@frederickbaugher8361 2 ай бұрын
I would imagine a micro imperfection in the etching process Could render the entire plate defective.
@famousutopias
@famousutopias 2 ай бұрын
@frederickbaugher8361 A feature!
@FPSNecromancerBob
@FPSNecromancerBob 3 ай бұрын
Chatty Kraftwerk is back with another beautiful example of audio engineering. The tone generating etched circular waveform assembly is a thing of art.
@olavl8827
@olavl8827 3 ай бұрын
Speaking of Kraftwerk, I think Sam would get along with Ralf Hütter if they'd ever meet. Perhaps this needs to be arranged.
@repeatdefender6032
@repeatdefender6032 3 ай бұрын
What a totally wacky thingamajiggy! I just love that you call the other one "Joan's Organ", very sweet to remember her.
@patrickbodine1300
@patrickbodine1300 2 ай бұрын
Joan's or Jones? Makes a big difference. (Please pardon my ignorance)
@stitchfinger7678
@stitchfinger7678 2 ай бұрын
@@patrickbodine1300 "Joan's" as it was owned by a woman named Joan. No worries, he's been doing that project for a while, can't expect everyone to know everything :)
@zebo-the-fat
@zebo-the-fat 3 ай бұрын
Amazing, the first thing I thought was the Hammond tone wheel, but it's different and weird! Whoever came up with the idea was smoking the good stuff!
@dmthandmade5674
@dmthandmade5674 3 ай бұрын
An old 3D resin printer can be used to very easily etch a precise and intricate pattern on metal if you wanted to have a go at your own waveforms.. I've made some lovely lithographic plates this way in a few minutes (as opposed to the old ballache way). This thing is amazing.
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 3 ай бұрын
Will that be better resolution than photoresist?
@dmthandmade5674
@dmthandmade5674 2 ай бұрын
@@pattheplanter You still use photofilm but you don't have to print a transprency, or cut a stencil or make a screenprint. Resolution depends on the printer but most are going to be 2-4K these days. Lots of hobby modellers have an old Mars lying around.
@TesserId
@TesserId 2 ай бұрын
I would totally do that.
@radarmusen
@radarmusen 2 ай бұрын
It could be human choirs not a long sample.
@TesserId
@TesserId 2 ай бұрын
@@radarmusen Choirs, yes. I wonder if the inventors of this thing could imagine some kind of changer, like a record changer, to expand the memory bank capacity.
@fgroen1225
@fgroen1225 3 ай бұрын
So cool to see al this lost technology. What a beauty! People become the most resourceful in the light of lacking resources.
@usvalve
@usvalve 2 ай бұрын
This guy is amazing! While I'm trying to get a record player with a handful of TO-72 transistors working, he's fixing organs with thousands of electrical, mechanical and pneumatic parts. Next project: connecting the Apollo 11 flight computer to work the Star Trek transporter!
@MostlyPennyCat
@MostlyPennyCat 2 ай бұрын
Have you seen the channel that restored an Apollo AGC and ran the software that flew the spacecraft?
@pablowentscobar
@pablowentscobar 3 ай бұрын
That really is an amazing piece of ancient technology. It's stunning the lengths men went to to make noises in churches, I know that's a super over simplified explanation. But, it really is that simple when compared to how complicated and complex these beautiful old machines are. Thanks for sharing such things with us.
@GothGuy885
@GothGuy885 3 ай бұрын
I found the video VERY interesting. I have an old 1960's Vacuum tube, Hammond home organ that still works, though, no one seems to want it. So, I might start to do some experimenting of my own with it, would be interesting to mess around with the tone wheels, and it has a power amp, and 2-3 Pre-amps in it. along with a spring reverb Tank, and tremolo, and other interesting circuits, for my Mad scientist experiments 😀👍
@charleswheeler3418
@charleswheeler3418 2 ай бұрын
I just can't get over how beautiful those etched waveform generators are - mind blown... absolutely love what you do Sam.
@axolouis7025
@axolouis7025 3 ай бұрын
Its amazing what kind of electronic devices you find and show us. Great work!
@totallycrimson5853
@totallycrimson5853 2 ай бұрын
I love old electronics that bridge the gap between mechanical and solid state. Those tone generators are a work of art, the genius who worked out how to make this stuff is incredible.
@dxtxzbunchanumbers
@dxtxzbunchanumbers 3 ай бұрын
Always love a good organ transplant
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 2 ай бұрын
Very cool old technology, good on you for saving such a beautiful machine from the scrap heap and making it sing again!
@emmetcassidy
@emmetcassidy 3 ай бұрын
:D your face when messing about with the drill
@WanTan8888
@WanTan8888 2 ай бұрын
i dont think people understand how amazing this is, in a day where all of this is ran by software, to be able to do these things with insane analog solutions is just amazing
@JanusMirith
@JanusMirith 2 ай бұрын
I tried to come up with a better comment but I've just circled back around to " this makes my brain happy"
@fionabrown8569
@fionabrown8569 Ай бұрын
As a professional organ maintainer, I think your video was absolutely BRILLIANT ! Thank you. Amazing bit of gear how they use the (presumably mains synch) motor to make sure it's ON PITCH, (and if there is no belt slip) IN TUNE. Like a Hammond tone-wheel, but using electrostatic generation like a Wurlitzer Piano. And congratulations on your presentation - clear, to the point, but technical and entertaining. Well done.
@CuriouslySkeptical
@CuriouslySkeptical 3 ай бұрын
Just incredible! I’m so glad this is being preserved, and not just chucked out. I had the absolute privilege of rebuilding a Hammond and Leslie once - it blew my mind! But this machine is off the charts! I just love everything about this!
@adammoss5284
@adammoss5284 2 ай бұрын
The Wurlitzer spectra-tone was similar but spun the speaker 😆
@sawiblue
@sawiblue 3 ай бұрын
bro is reaching new heights of complexity everyday
@audhen1
@audhen1 3 ай бұрын
0:03 that giggle :D
@TesserId
@TesserId 2 ай бұрын
I went back for a listen. That needs to be loaded into a sampling synth.
@Ghaz002
@Ghaz002 2 ай бұрын
oh my god those waveform/pickup etchings look so damn cool, like something you'd find in an alien spaceship
@brentdennard6722
@brentdennard6722 2 ай бұрын
Those tone generating discs are so cool. That’s the coolest thing I’ve seen this month.
@joonglegamer9898
@joonglegamer9898 2 ай бұрын
Curious Marc is probably drooling over those core memory units in the background there.
@youlemur
@youlemur 2 ай бұрын
i dont have words to express how cool this is
@SusanAmberBruce
@SusanAmberBruce 2 ай бұрын
Wow! Sometimes it's such a surprise to find out stuff like this, it's been there in our midst for ages but hidden away.
@lascheque
@lascheque 2 ай бұрын
The insanity level is rising and I like it.
@kenworks6068
@kenworks6068 2 ай бұрын
I'm very impressed by your ability to describe and present this system. My mom restored a Wurlitzer for her home and I learned how it all worked. There are so very few people who make the effort to learn these things and fewer yet who are actually teaching the next generation. Thank You
@O.OEVA-OC
@O.OEVA-OC 3 ай бұрын
It's only a matter of time until Sam obtains the RCA Mark 2 Synthesizer. Jokes aside, I'd love to see that happen 😂Love your videos Sam
@bricelory9534
@bricelory9534 2 ай бұрын
There is something magical in having the guts of this mechano-electronic organ exposed to explore like this! I like the idea of making it MIDI controlled - it could be fun to see if you could use a device to adjust the belt tension to make a controllable pitch bend. Interesting sounds!
@BillHustonPodcast
@BillHustonPodcast 3 ай бұрын
I don't think I've heard someone use the term "in situ" who wasn't an attorney or geologist 👍
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER 3 ай бұрын
waaa really? my wife says i come out with seldom used phrases too much and it catches her out of sorts ha. i thought in situ was quite a common one but hey ho!
@andywatts8654
@andywatts8654 3 ай бұрын
I thoroughly approve of seldom used phrases
@organfairy
@organfairy 3 ай бұрын
Strange coincidence, but the last time I saw it was on a theatre organ page.
@marillion335
@marillion335 2 ай бұрын
When you opened that tone disk it reminded me of Roto pulses we used to work on back in the 70s/80s in a machine shop. They used two rotating graded glass disks to make a stepping motor move a rack and pinion very accurately. I love the technology and ingenuity of these old systems. You are very smart being able to work all this stuff out. I applaud you mate. Well done. Take care and watch those 500V rails - they hurt. Stu
@TheFurriestOne
@TheFurriestOne 2 ай бұрын
What a fantastically complex, yet deceptively simple, bit of kit! Wonderful bit of musical machinery.
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 3 ай бұрын
How is it generating the amplitude envelopes?
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER 3 ай бұрын
It isn't. Beyond some capacitors on the lines going into the electrostatic wheels. Organs are just on and off
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER 3 ай бұрын
However! I found if you adjust the 500v going into the different relay banks the volume is adjusted but I think that's for the isolate switches on the console. The 347 rack in the back I'm going to make some voltage dividers for all of the tones going in to make a big drone machine which will be really funky I recon! But for this one I think I'm going to get it going as originally Intended but midi :D which has no amp adjustments
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER 3 ай бұрын
Possibly those lines went into volume swell foot pedals. Still making a list of the pinout on that big loom to the consol 😂haha
@kc9scott
@kc9scott 2 ай бұрын
I think the original question here is how it’s doing the envelope of each note, correct? I could hear that each note’s attack and decay was somewhat gradual. This video is the first time I’ve seen this type of tone generator, but my guess is that you’re charging/discharging the 400V to each etched waveform, and it probably goes through a resistor, so that the charge/discharge isn’t instantaneous. Just a guess.
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 2 ай бұрын
This is so cool. It is amazing. It showed the creative mind of the times before modern electronics. What genius thought of this? Insanely awesome 👌 👏 👍
@swedishpsychopath8795
@swedishpsychopath8795 3 ай бұрын
Maybe it can be used to mine bitcoin?
@gnarlysoundscapes7210
@gnarlysoundscapes7210 2 ай бұрын
3:05 That looks like some kind of ancient technology Indiana Jones would discover. Awesome stuff.
@harrysmbdgs
@harrysmbdgs 2 ай бұрын
This might be the coolest electromechanical device I've ever seen!
@mastercylinder1939
@mastercylinder1939 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for bringing this to our attention, what a fantastic machine. How did I every live without you? You’re a beautiful machine...
@drfill9210
@drfill9210 2 ай бұрын
I LOVE that thing! Worst comes to worst, you could always rig some switches to that crocodile clip board and run it that way...
@NahNoThankYou
@NahNoThankYou 2 ай бұрын
Sam, your enthusiasm is contagious ❤
@baltofarlander2618
@baltofarlander2618 2 ай бұрын
I read "autism" at first, kinda fitting too.
@RichardX-k8m
@RichardX-k8m 3 ай бұрын
I think Lucien would have loved to see it being so enthusiatically used even in part - and hopefully you can put this in a form others can play, exactly what he intended with his collection.
@WOFFY-qc9te
@WOFFY-qc9te 3 ай бұрын
Richard, we lost an electrical magician Lucien was had an amazing mind I was so please to see this was saved as it was his mission to rescue the few remaining machines, I forget the detail but I think this machine had some funky functions I need to go back to his web page to refresh my memory. The tone wheels are an incredibly complex and the maths is very interesting.
@RichardX-k8m
@RichardX-k8m 3 ай бұрын
@@WOFFY-qc9te I was a very close friend of Luciens, knew him from primary school. Unfortunately the websites we built are now gone but the wayback machine has good copies.
@WOFFY-qc9te
@WOFFY-qc9te 2 ай бұрын
@@RichardX-k8m Richard, I am sorry to here the web site is no longer up I hope it can be resorected maybe by this channels help, it had some amazing content and important contributions in the comments. I did not know Lucien but I know from his comments and detailed descriptions of various machines that Lucien functioned on a level few could match and I would have loved to have met him and the crew. His passion to get the museum going and save the electromechanical heritage has in a way been achieved, too be honest I was struggling to take on board his illness and his last video was hard to watch, even more for you a life long mate to accept the inevitable. I am sure you and his chums are doing their best to find a safe home for the collection and importantly for your team to keep together is some way. Take care Richard and my condolences. Best Stephen ( Wirral )
@theonlywoody2shoes
@theonlywoody2shoes 2 ай бұрын
I’m currently rebuilding a Viscount Grand Opera (1980s Italian electronics!) for our local church where I’m the organist. Love this piece of nostalgia technology, thanks for saving it and showing it - looking forward to hearing it in its fully glory.
@Sharklops
@Sharklops 2 ай бұрын
Few things excite me as much as finding out LMNC has posted a new video. They are always so fun and interesting, despite me not knowing jack about either electronics or music
@BeniRoseMusic
@BeniRoseMusic 2 ай бұрын
I was watching waiting to find out how a pre-transistor electric organ handled routing the signal from the console and thought "surely it wasn't relays, that would be loud and potentially slow", but sure enough, it was relays! Amazing how they implemented those grids of relays!
@AyyyGabagool
@AyyyGabagool 2 ай бұрын
unreal find. The ingenuity built into this chungus of a kit is truly a marvel.
@roybent4514
@roybent4514 2 ай бұрын
What a fabulous piece of engineering. I had no idea that such a thing ever existed.
@scarfboy
@scarfboy 2 ай бұрын
That is fascinating, ridiculous, and the internals are gorgeous. One of the things that strikes me is that probably no one would think to do it like this again, but it would be so much fun if they did.
@michaelbauers8800
@michaelbauers8800 2 ай бұрын
As is often the case with your videos, I am blown away by learning about something I had no idea that existed. For all I know, there's no other video online showing this vintage tech.
@MikeSmith-sh3ko
@MikeSmith-sh3ko 2 ай бұрын
I am amazed how busy you keep yourself Sam. Love that you just got stuck in 👍
@lummsmusik3219
@lummsmusik3219 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for all showing and explaining. So cool to see such exotic hardware working in detail.
@jimisru
@jimisru 2 ай бұрын
The fantastic abstraction in those disks must have taken a lot of in-depth engineering. Who figured that out? It's amazing.
@lfo2vco
@lfo2vco 3 ай бұрын
Fascinating, the etching in the tone wheels are a thing of beauty and I imaging this would sound fantastic in a large reverberant space. Thanks for sharing.
@southerner66
@southerner66 2 ай бұрын
The electrostatic pickup works a bit like a Wurlitzer Electric Piano where the reeds move relative to a charged pickup. Or you could think of them as two plates of a capacitor with air as the dielectric.
@avalt0134
@avalt0134 Ай бұрын
whoever came up and engineered this back in the day (with all the limitations of the era) is nothing short than a genius.
@Maxxarcade
@Maxxarcade 2 ай бұрын
That is one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time! You could MIDI that to your existing pipe organ and have a sizeable hybrid setup. I'd like to hear how all the various "ranks" from that sound when it's being played.
@sensorlock
@sensorlock 2 ай бұрын
When you talked about making a custom backplate, the first thing that popped into my head was "this is analog wavetable synthesis".
@pauljs75
@pauljs75 2 ай бұрын
Scrolling down and seeing I'm not alone. Provided they don't go out of phase, the waves should be synchronized. So it'd be just a matter of having various ways to cross fade the mix between the different channels of those things.
@rhyoliteaquacade
@rhyoliteaquacade 2 ай бұрын
Custom tone wheels could have sampled "voice" engraved on them.
@paulmcdonough9595
@paulmcdonough9595 2 ай бұрын
I had no idea those old organs used such a tone generator. Brilliant, my kind of machine. As Clive says the etched plates in the tone wheels are beautiful.
@plou0018
@plou0018 2 ай бұрын
Imagine being the original constructor of such a machine and knowing this is cutting edge tech. And for us to see it uncovered, moth balls n’ all, and barely understand what the bloody hell is going on inside. Cheers, mate for blowing my mind.
@Tharicnar
@Tharicnar 2 ай бұрын
This is a piece of technology I never knew existed. Absolutely love the invention required to figure something like this out. Spinning discs with etched patterns to generate tones? Crazy... marvelous, but crazy. Love that you are taking care of this and finding this organ a new home.
@wd-bs4xz
@wd-bs4xz 2 ай бұрын
I’m so happy you’re doing what you’re doing. All the old amazing machines of the world need a knowledgeable and creative person like you.
@blackmoofou6385
@blackmoofou6385 3 ай бұрын
Oh man that is INSANE! I sense some super interesting mods to come! What a piece of engineering.
@jamesjacoby
@jamesjacoby 2 ай бұрын
I never would have guessed that’s what was inside the tone generators. What an amazing machine.
@rs5001988
@rs5001988 2 ай бұрын
That sound with the drill mock up is wonderful 😊
@hapskie
@hapskie 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating! Never knew something like this existed.
@wallpurgesnight8209
@wallpurgesnight8209 2 ай бұрын
Being an organ guy at heart I'm very glad to see my donations are going to a good cause.
@sebastianiodice3394
@sebastianiodice3394 Ай бұрын
Not many of them monsters around, good job saving this one! Can't wait to hear some real music from it
@BilalHeuser1
@BilalHeuser1 2 ай бұрын
That was a very interesting demonstration of some very old school tech!! We need to document this old tech before no one can remember how it worked.
@evanmayer744
@evanmayer744 2 ай бұрын
this is my introduction to electrostatic tone generator organs, or any adjacent organ tech, and I am absolutely enthralled that it exists.
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 2 ай бұрын
Hey ya moke. Thanks for sharing this. Unreal amount of effort to produce these back in the day.
@Alan_UK
@Alan_UK 2 ай бұрын
Excellent Sam. I've always wondered how these tone units worked. You're doing great work not only rescuing equipment but getting them working, often without manuals. Looking forward to the next episode.
@ReedCBowman
@ReedCBowman 2 ай бұрын
OMG I had no idea they built things like that. Those etched tone wheels are astonishing. This kind of thing is why your channel is such a treasure. I hope to be able to visit your museum someday.
@gary6449
@gary6449 2 ай бұрын
I knew about the Hammond tone wheels - but this is something I've NEVER heard of.. AMAZING !
@SuperHughstube
@SuperHughstube 2 ай бұрын
Can't think that there is enough room next to Joan's organ in the museum. There was a single manual Compton in the Methodist Church here in Wye which I used to tinker with. There was some special oil that we had to use to lubricant the wheels. There was also a solenoid that waggled the tension wheel on the belt to produce vibrato. It always sounded rich and warm, but anything sounds good with a big valve amp and a 12" celestion speaker 😀
@doctorc-ton1099
@doctorc-ton1099 2 ай бұрын
Electro mechanical music: This is amazing and I had no idea this existed. Thanks for rescuing this tech, and presenting it. Cheers!
@enoz.j3506
@enoz.j3506 2 ай бұрын
Never seen anything like this before,those tone wheels are pieces of art, what a remarkable invention.
@TheSynthnut
@TheSynthnut 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic stuff indeed. This is yet more really incredible gear to get for the museum. The transitional technologies that get forgotten are fascinating. Looking forward visiting again...
@kikkirow
@kikkirow 3 ай бұрын
Crazy amount of things that go into an organ. It must have taken so long to build and set up one of these back in the day. This is a very nice explanation and demo of how an organ makes sound.
@mUbase
@mUbase 2 ай бұрын
Wow what a nice find. I absolutely love the tonewheels especially the novel idea of using etched circular waveform patterns ( make a nice tattoo !! ) I have the salvaged guts of a rhythm unit from a Hammond T500 that I'm in the process of bending/modifying (transistors and passives with a couple of logic chips ( its 1973 vintage) but I digress... This thing takes the biscuitt !!! :o x
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