LOOMIS vs REILLY vs ASARO: The Best Head Drawing Method

[@BueskenArt]

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[@almarn]

This is nice but largely useless…if you know HOW to draw you how to draw everything men, women or elephant. There is NO magically solution. You need to draw every day. It can takes years. Anybody can draw and if you are gifted it will be faster.

[@BueskenArt]

This is obviously true. You need to practice a lot and will get better that way. Duh. But I wouldn't say these models are useless at all. The head is a very(!) complex thing and these simplified models can help you grasp the forms faster. Have you tried them? Also, it isn't really like "I know how to draw" and now I can draw anything. To an extent, yes, if you can draw basic forms. But you still need to practice individual proportions and anatomy of specific objects/beings. For example, I wouldn't be able to draw a car convincingly right now.

[@BueskenArt]

Yes. Of course. But that is obviously(!) not the topic of this video... 🤔

[@Animation_parade]

​@@BueskenArtHii busken hope you are doing well, I have always face the problem for the side circle in which we draw the ear in loomis method how can i overcome on that.

[@BueskenArt]

Try drawing it from a reference model. You will likely draw the circle too small or too big - or in wrong perspective. This model can help you out: sketchfab.com/3d-models/loomis-head-d0b3f4aa633a44d8bda8cfe2f779f1f8

[@jienel1221]

I think studying all three of them is incredibly beneficial. My ability to draw faces significantly improved when I tried to understand the principles behind Reilly and Asaro (Using Loomis as the base).

[@BueskenArt]

Exactly my point! 🙂

[@perlen5227]

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[@rayandrew964]

I just put mud on my face and ssmash it into the drawing

[@BueskenArt]

What? Noooo! 😅

[@darcyperkins7041]

​@@BueskenArtHey, if it works...😮

[@BueskenArt]

Never change a running system... 😁

[@darcyperkins7041]

@@BueskenArt Yup!

[@_t_w_e_1_2_e_5_i_v_e_]

Bruhh I want to draw Christiano Ronaldo how I get his face😂

[@bookle5829]

Drawing heads be like: 🗿🗿🗿🗿

[@АртемГірман]

The Loomis method is the simplest for me. Have not heard of the other two. Thank you much for the vid.

[@BueskenArt]

No problem!

[@Editsagastudios]

Loomis method sucks in side view

[@Thefrenchiefry]

Maybe just you ​@@Editsagastudios

[@MahletTessema-r6g]

Me too 😂

[@mrsplosh999]

The problem the Reilly method is that it lacks volume. I woild say its better for letting you see the flow between shapes so you can inform your volumes. To me the best teachers for anatomy have been michael hampton, marc brunet, will westen, and marshall vandruff. They focus on volume more than anything which is key.

[@Killerkraft975]

Dont forget Proko and sinix design

[@MarkWhippy]

Students just starting out find it useful for processing the placement of landmarks in the face. I the two should compliment each other until it becomes intuitive.

[@TheHamidshahzad]

Your Best Reference for next sketching is on 6:16 ... love that expression

[@BueskenArt]

Haha, go ahead! 😄

[@avikr9006]

This is honestly a wonderful video for beginners and intermediate as well, thanks!🎉

[@BueskenArt]

My pleasure, friend! 👍

[@theboyisso6960]

Loomis gang rise up

[@NightSpook]

Exactly the explanation I was looking for. This helps a lot, thank you!!

[@BueskenArt]

Love it! Thanks, NightSpook! 😃

[@emmanuelaidoo1735]

Yeah. Exactly

[@RobertChambers1522]

I have a 3D printed Asaro head that I use for sculpting.

[@BueskenArt]

Great idea!

[@isaacnx]

As a beginner, thanks a lot. Very informative video, very nice of you to include the books aswell :)

[@BueskenArt]

My pleasure! I'm glad I could be helpful! :)

[@kobbsy7441]

This is a great video man! I think I will definitely stick to further learning the loomis method as it seems the most simple. Thank you

[@BueskenArt]

No problem, glad to be of help! Keep practicing! 👍

[@Azidust]

I Start with loomis ,put the feature with Reilly then paint with the Asro head

[@joshuagray2458]

Perfect explanation. Thank you.

[@BueskenArt]

Thank you, too! 😊

[@SmallLionAsmr]

What helped me the most constructing the head was the method described in one of Gottfried Bammes' books

[@razorx9966]

I am very grateful to you for this video

[@BueskenArt]

You're welcome!

[@kalel311superman9]

i am still on the loomis method, not quite ready for the other 2

[@BueskenArt]

Always learn at your own pace! 👍

[@famingxu4113]

Thank you so much for the helpful comparison about the three methods! It gave me a big relief, and made me easier to decide which way I may stay on.

[@BueskenArt]

Great! 😊

[@lordoftheuniverse69]

Thanks for giving us a sequence in which to learn this. Really helps G

[@BueskenArt]

My pleasure! I think it makes the most sense that way.

[@solmaza4571]

خیلی ممنون از اطلاعات مفیدی که ارائه کردی. برای من خیلی کاربردی بود🙏

[@BueskenArt]

You're welcome!

[@Henry-n7n8]

great information tut, I like the way you compared each of the methods and showed examples, thanks for your time.

[@BueskenArt]

My pleasure! 😁

[@troychriscarretas2657]

We can combine 2 or 3 of them Example I can first use the Loomis and then apply the shadows from Asaro

[@BueskenArt]

Exactly!

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[@408original]

I appreciate your video - you made it very easy to understand each application.

[@BueskenArt]

I'm glad you like it! 🙂

[@alienated_maestro]

i used this method before it's really useful

[@henrylazaga]

@4:10 I use the same method for this when I model a base head before i start sculpting the head. however I'm not really sure if this system should be credited for either loomis or bridgman because as far as i know it was bridgman who developed it or at least the first one who acquired this method from his mentor artist (forgot his name) who was a sculptor himself. personally i'd rather prefer to refer it as "bridgman head" because the term "loomis head" is already being used for the other method. *edit: i just confirmed that loomis studied under bridgman's teachings. so yeah. i think it should be rightfully called "bridgman head". and bridgman's mentor's name by the way is jean-leon gerome, famous painter and sculptor. cheers!

[@BueskenArt]

Interesting! I wasn't trying to make it seem like Loomis invented this - my bad. I didn't dig into the history that much. So it's interesting to know that Loomis studied under Bridgman, for sure. It seems like Loomis developed the planes a bit further though; in his books he seems to draw a lot more small shapes than Bridgman seemed to use. At least from what I could find with a quick Google search. 🤔

[@henrylazaga]

@@BueskenArt no worries. 👍 was just curious. made me look into it and do my own researches. planes of the human body was actually bridgman's specialty and what he is very well-known for. in his lectures as well as the books he has written (got a copy of it myself) he simplifies the minute details of the human anatomy into planes is why his technique is very useful for both figure drawing and sculpting alike.

[@zeroth88]

Great video! This was really good info. I’m a total greenhorn at face drawing (and most drawing) and have been trying to decipher the best method for learning. This helped a lot!

[@BueskenArt]

Thanks a lot! 🙂

[@kberlinquette]

I think all 3 would blend well in a work flow. Loomis for beginners, riley seems nice to advance to for flow, but using the asaro head for light and shadows

[@BueskenArt]

Exactly! Like at 5:22. 👍

[@Andriej69]

Ah, the Riley stuff is exactly what I needed

[@BueskenArt]

Great!

[@BueskenArt]

Great!

[@unknownontheinternet]

I thought he would mentioned Steve Hudson , became the base of head shape, pretty unique

[@BueskenArt]

I don't know that method yet. I was just trying to compare the most famous methods. 🙂 But I'll look into it!

[@Irisseesall]

Brilliant tutorial! Wise to teach all 3 methods. VIP

[@BueskenArt]

Thank you! 🙂

[@RayGalactic]

Thank you!

[@BueskenArt]

My pleasure!

[@T-Lex-p5h]

wow you made everything so soo clear. Thanks a ton

[@BueskenArt]

Love that you like it! 😊

[@GAST0N]

Is the purpose of drawing the planes of the head to understand how to place shadows with different light sources and when drawing from imagination?

[@BueskenArt]

Yes, exactly that! 😊

[@matthewhill4883]

This was very helpful! Thank you!

[@BueskenArt]

You're welcome, mate!

[@mafferx]

Thank you! What do you think is better, drawing a head with the Loomis method or drawing it in a box?

[@BueskenArt]

Whatever works for you. The head is no box though. So I think the Loomis method is a sensible approach. A box can help to get the general perspective and most basic planes right though. Methods like the Bridgman method use that.

[@mafferx]

​@@BueskenArtThanks a lot! I'll try to study it and then see which one is better

[@MaximillianHemmings]

an excellent presentation! Thanks.

[@BueskenArt]

Thanks, Max!

[@madmaster3d]

lomis is good for we beginners

[@BueskenArt]

Yes, definitely!

[@knitforfuns]

Thank you so much for this great video!! It was extremely helpful!!

[@BueskenArt]

You're welcome - glad it was helpful!! 👍

[@hawaii7569]

Great video! I've been looking for something like this.

[@BueskenArt]

Glad I could be of service! 😎

[@markanthonyart]

This is great. Some questions I have. Loomis and Reily method are mainly for drawing heads/faces to construct from imagination and not drawing from life or a photo? I've seen artists draw a loomis head to draw/paint from a reference. Usually this turns out in a way that doesn't represent the likeness of the original. Seems like there are better ways to measure instead of trying to morph a loomis head into something that looks like the reference person.

[@BueskenArt]

Yes, you're right. I think people are doing this as an exercise. When you're just drawing from imagination with the Loomis method, your drawings will probably look alright. At least better than wirhout any method. But if you lack a fundamental understanding of the anatomy of a head, your drawings might not be as good as they could. Drawing from reference photos with the Loomis method kindof translates this more realistic look to your Loomis drawings, making them better in the end. You can also draw the Loomis construction OVER a photo (the Reilly abstraction as well). It' a good exercise as well - and harder than one might think!

[@markanthonyart]

@@BueskenArt oh good. Yeah when I see people do it over a photograph, a lot of the time they get the initial circle misplaced. So I was thinking what's the point of doing that if you have to do tons of corrections just to get the initial loomis thing going.

[@BueskenArt]

Yep, it ain't easy. But I guess when you're able to put the circle (and the rest) over a photo believably, your understanding of the head shape should be on a pretty high level then! :D

[@ruthdallas6125]

Very clear explanation. Do most portrait artists actually use one of these methods or do they play with it for awhile but really just try to draw what they see on their own? Starting with geometric shapes when of course the face is curved seems so backwards to me. Why for example do people draw nostrils with straight lines when you already know the position and could just as easily draw the normal curve ditto with the chin. For learning proportions fine but for drawing the shape of the features starting with straight lines almost seems an affectation.

[@BueskenArt]

When drawing from life, I think most portrait artists use special measuring techniques with their pencil and finger. That makes it way more likely to capture a likeness. I think these methods are especially useful when drawing from imagination when you're constructing something from nothing. I guess the more advanced you become, the more you make it your own - take bits and pieces from every method and do what works for you. As for the straight lines... I like them. It's not like you couldn't draw the curved lines from the start. But straight lines simplify things. When starting a drawing, it's so important to not lose yourself in the minutiae. With straight lines you can focus on proportions and angles 100% - and not worry about getting the curve of the nostril (for example) right... yet. That would be the next step.

[@ddz7795]

Just add shadow over the eyes, under the nose and on the upper lip of the mouth. Work with shadows.

[@Hawk2549]

For me lominous methods easy to me create head using that method

[@flohughes3527]

Super helpful !

[@BueskenArt]

Thanks! 😀

[@clarenscourtois8927]

Perfect

[@BueskenArt]

💪💪

[@adittaroy7692]

That was helpful ☺️

[@BueskenArt]

😊

[@Magicpencil618]

I like your video❤

[@ezeddrawer]

"but which one should you use?". Proceeds to show a turn around of the Asaro head in the background 🗿🗿

[@BueskenArt]

😂🤪

[@emmanuelaidoo1735]

Thanks so much. Your video has been helpful

[@BueskenArt]

Thanks Emmanuel, I'm happy you like it! 😎

[@BromancerofDoom]

Nice overview!

[@BueskenArt]

Thanks! 😊

[@furkanmeral4376]

Thanks for the video. It will be very useful to me ❤

[@BueskenArt]

💪💪💪

[@ZoranDragojevic-w4b]

thank you

[@BueskenArt]

👍👍

[@AshtonLucas144]

Tysm❤god bless you sir

[@BueskenArt]

Thank you, too! 😊

[@Irisseesall]

😂😂😂😂 first real laugh today!!

[@baltiir2953]

Do you have a link to your background pictures of the Asaro heads? would be great to have them as my wallpaper so im forced to see them constantly :D

[@BueskenArt]

Haha, sure, here you go: bueskenart.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/asaro_wallpaper.jpg :D

[@baltiir2953]

@@BueskenArt LEGEND , thank you! :D

[@rk_outlaw]

I wanted to draw an egg and I couldn't find a perfect picture for it so i used your head if its okay with you .

[@BueskenArt]

That's perfectly fine. If you like your eggs hairy at the bottom, go ahead!

[@LovePeaceMiracles]

My number 😊 exactly the 10k ❤

[@MaryHernandez-lq8kq]

Thank you and for links🎉 too

[@BueskenArt]

You're welcome, Mary!

[@proriderNinjahattori]

Thank you so much 👍👍👍

[@BueskenArt]

My pleasure!

[@aminproduct]

Me try simple first details last , abstract to realism.

[@BueskenArt]

That's the right way! 👍

[@mrcong8691]

Can I ask what method is used to paint portraits with oil?

[@BueskenArt]

For the sketch... the same methods! For the painting I can recommend the channel 'Paint Coach' from Chris Fornataro. Really great tips there

[@juanfont5243]

THE BRIDGMAN METHOD IS MISSING ALSO WHICH IS VERY GOOD!!! I USE IT ALMOST ALWAYS

[@BueskenArt]

Excellent point! It's not as well-known as the others... but still a valid point. I will write that down and might make a video about it in the future. 👍

[@juanfont5243]

VERY BUT VERY GOOD YOUR VIDEOS GREETINGS FROM ARGENTINA!!!@@BueskenArt

[@BueskenArt]

Thanks a lot!!

[@zaskiaalsakila7248]

I normally draw head and figures using Valerie Winslow's book method and Vladimir London Russian school method, he said taught by old masters. Are those 2 entirely different from ur 3 methods of drawing heads?

[@BueskenArt]

I don't know enough about those methods to give an appropiate answer, I'm sorry! But from what I could find out with a quick Google search, these methods don't look that different. After all a head is a head, so there will always be the same proportions and similar abstractions of the planes of the head. 🙂 It's interesting how many similar methods there are though...

[@zaskiaalsakila7248]

@@BueskenArtAh thanks for reply. Hope u can maybe try the Vladimir's method. His videos on KZbin are plenty. Maybe make video about Vladimir London methods? Simply explained he uses lines and markings all the correct ratios and locations. Means strait lines like drawing a building, but its for the head. And the real drawing starts at the pit of neck and jawline, chin areas. Not a circle like Loomis and others. Actually very practical useful for me. Can create very detailed features. Like I can draw 2 females, and i said one is a detailed Japanese, other is detailed Russian. And really one doesn't look similar to the other yeah. Can really create very detailed chars. One of my latest drawing I draw a full figure drawing of a Japanese-ish 13 years old girl. And tat art really looks very distinct. Edit for a few hours using gimp and I got a nice 13 yr old "girl" yeah... Lets just say Vladimir's methods really works man... Loomis I tried few years back, just managed to do some anime-ish looking "multi-racial(?)" chars. I dropped it long time ago. Maybe Loomis method is more of a proportions and ratios rather than making detailed chars. I'm man from Singapore, and my latest arts, I draw 13yr old Japanese girl, 13yr old Singapore girl and 17yr old Russian girl. And edit all of em using Gimp and wow I have 3 nice detailed "girls" yeah!! Try the Vladimir's method it really works.

[@BueskenArt]

Thanks for the info. I see that his channel is 'Drawing Art Academy'. I know that, I saw some of his videos a while ago. Nice stuff! But I think he is the better candidate to make videos about his method. 🙂

[@KnowledgeMavens]

very helpful, tyvm!

[@BueskenArt]

No problem!

[@user-hi3ke6qh7q]

So Loomis had his own Asaro head or was Asaro somehow influenced by Loomis and evolved this concept? Chicken or the Egg?

[@BueskenArt]

Yeah... I was just trying to make it sound a bit more interesting. I'm pretty sure Asaro was influenced by Loomis... who was influenced by Bridgman (his teacher)... who was influenced by... etc.

[@Magicwithpencil-ex7st]

Love this ❤😊

[@BueskenArt]

Very cool! 😁

[@weill6872]

Nice video!

[@BueskenArt]

Thanks, weILL!

[@djlensing]

Great compilation 🙌 - and very practical! The drawings all look very masculine, though - do these methods work just as well for female faces, or is there anything to consider?

[@BueskenArt]

It works for women as well. The proportions are pretty much the same. The differences are for example that women have bigger eyes and lips and generally softer/rounder shapes.

[@Rebecca97760]

This is a great video - I liked and subscribed! But this comment made me laugh. Women do NOT have bigger eyes or fuller lips, although they are often drawn to be stylized that way. The biggest difference in reality has to do with bone structure. Because men usually tend to have bigger bones, they tend to have stronger/sharper jawlines and cheekbones, which are places in the face where bones are more prominent. If you want to stylize your drawings to emphasize typical beauty standards (no judgment), sure, draw bigger eyes and fuller lips. It makes them prettier. 💅 😊

[@BueskenArt]

Thanks for the clarification, Rebecca! I thought women really do have bigger eyes and lips. 😀 The thing is that my face drawings always look rather masculine, if I don't use these exaggerated tricks to make them appear more feminine. 🤔 Maybe I shouldn't overdo it then. 😁

[@visionary93]

I was looking at the thumbnail and face #3 gives my brain Virtua Fighter vibes for some reason lol

[@BueskenArt]

Haha, yeah, kinda like those low-poly 3D models back then... 😃

[@Tisbilly]

I use a bastard child combination of the first two. I never formally learned how to draw the face, but I've studied face (minutiae of the skull, muscle placement, etc) anatomy extensively

[@Tisbilly]

I cannot stress how much studying the skull has helped me grasp facial proportions

[@BueskenArt]

💪💪

[@Hybrid.theory.06]

why not use a combination of all of them?

[@BueskenArt]

Exactly. That's what I recommend later in this video....

[@jianborsani]

Thanks 🔥

[@BueskenArt]

No Problem! 😎

[@souhi1027]

i started with loomis and it wasn't work for me really. then i mix it with reilly it works better😅

[@BueskenArt]

Do whatever works for you, hehe! 😁

[@gravesbruce]

Loomis is still the best.

[@BueskenArt]

👍

[@rafsandomierz5313]

I found Riley's method too much time consuming, i'm still at beginner level because I took longer break. However using some parts of his method helps me to rate the proportions of the face and each muscle a lot better than loomi's method, which doesn't focus on proportions despite being a lot simpler.

[@HardwareFahrrad]

Hast du ganz früher mal Domian-Parodien gemacht?

[@BueskenArt]

Ja. In einem anderen Leben... 😋

[@HardwareFahrrad]

Kannst du die Videos wieder online stellen? @@BueskenArt

[@BueskenArt]

Nein. Aber schreib mir mal bei Instagram oder per E-Mail. @@HardwareFahrrad

[@HardwareFahrrad]

...wozu das jetzt? @@BueskenArt

[@BueskenArt]

Für die Parodien. Hochladen werde ich sie hier nicht, da der Kanal offensichtlich jetzt eine andere Ausrichtung hat @@HardwareFahrrad

[@mominsart]

Thank you for explaning al the mehods for human head anatomy, which is the one of the most difficult one to draw, along with hands and feets as well, I would say here, if you learn how to control the prportions and draw bigger shapes first and break it dwn in the smaller shapes, that would help to simplify the process of drawing anything.

[@BueskenArt]

Yes, that is indeed a great tip! Always think "from big to small".

[@JohnClMeis]

Why lengthen it and not just have it the longer length?

[@BueskenArt]

The Loomis Method traditionally starts this way. Because when drawing the head in perspective, you divide the ball in 4 equal parts and then extend the centerline from that. But you can draw it like you describe as well, of course! I actually do it that way, too. 🙂

[@tara_kurd]

hello If you can add a Persian translation, thank you very much

[@BueskenArt]

Yes, of course! I added Persian subtitles for you. I hope they are accurate enough! :)

[@tara_kurd]

​@@BueskenArtThank you very much, it's great🙏❤

[@Rha-i7m]

You sound exactly like Military History Visualized. :D

[@BueskenArt]

Haha! 😄 I don't feel it, but if you say so...! 🤪

[@Pipplin]

Nah I just follow SpongeBob’s guide to drawing a circle without the last 2 steps

[@andfoundout]

please make this video saveable!

[@BueskenArt]

Saveable? 🤔

[@andfoundout]

Hi @@BueskenArt ! thanks for answering.There's a way to prevent people from saving videos to lists. It works now, though. I defnitely want to keep your insight on my Drawing list :D

[@BueskenArt]

Good that it works now! I didn't intentionally block it. ☺️

[@TheHamidshahzad]

this is actully a road map to learn sketching guys ...

[@hoangthihongphuong8473]

5:26

[@kjagyemang3896]

IS ASARO AN ANIME NAME?

[@BueskenArt]

Nah. But would sound cool, wouldn't it? 😏

[@semir2080]

ASARO is based on the REILLY method

[@grillbesteck6319]

I smash my head into the paper and trace it

[@magic-art64]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@BueskenArt]

👍👍

[@LauraTeAhoWhite]

When I want to draw a head quickly: Loomis method When I want to torture myself with drawing circles: Reilly Abstraction When I want to draw a statue: Asaro Head

[@BueskenArt]

Nice take! 😄

[@Cyranowan]

All day I’ll use Reilly. Just not with all the rhythms

[@BueskenArt]

That's great! Use what's useful to YOU. 👍

[@julianblake8385]

what about Mr Michael Hampton? Is he a Clown to you?

[@BueskenArt]

Why should he be? 🤔

[@julianblake8385]

@@BueskenArt It was a terrible Joke on my part. I meant that he is usually also very popular with his method of drawing heads, it would have been a great addition to your video to contrast also his method. Cheers, mate, and thanks for the video.

[@BueskenArt]

I see. 😃 I was just going for the most well-known and oldest methods. I know about Michael Hampton and have actually thought about a sequel video to this where I mention him. But seeing that he also has a KZbin channel (bigger and more active than mine), I figured people should just go there. I'm unsure. 🤔

[@fernandohildebrand6319]

Marcel Kuhn

[@BueskenArt]

DrawlikeaSir?

[@Atomic-toons00]

i am also bald 😢

[@BueskenArt]

No reason to be sad, brother! 😄

[@unsreyouyun9647]

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[@BueskenArt]

No problem! I'm glad you like it!

[@ericeakes7733]

I guess if I wanted to draw generic robot faces. Kidding aside. I suppose when someone is struggling with proportions it's a starting point but it's not gonna get you very far.

[@danielstiefel8855]

In fact , this is not drawing but finally poor Foto-Imitation of standard-faces!

[@BueskenArt]

It's so poor that thousands of artists have used it successfully for decades. These methods are obviously just a base to learn the fundamentals. You can later easily transition away from "standard faces".

[@danielstiefel8855]

@@BueskenArt Give me one of your thousands of artistnames!

[@BueskenArt]

You can't be serious... look around KZbin or Instagram and read some comments. I'm not forcing you to use these methods, if you don't like them. Do what works for you. 🙏

[@danielstiefel8855]

@@BueskenArt Ich finde es bemerkenswert, dass Sie meine Einwände respektieren..! Das ist heute schon viel.Ob daraus ein Gespräch über Künstler und Zeichnen entsteht, glaub ich kaum. Die Zeichnung als früheste Kulturtechnik entzieht sich ihrer Kopierfähigkeit. Sie ist Kunst, kaum Foto mit andern Mitteln…? PS.: Meine amerikanischen Studenten waren die Schlechtesten Studenten, voll von deiner Theorie, unfähig einen andern Charakter als den angelernten zu erfassen. Lass uns mal über Kunst reden, nicht über Kopiertricks. Ps.: Zeichner sind super…..

[@donlestermarquez639]

Ur facial features perfectly match what u r discussing hahahahahahahaahahah

[@BueskenArt]

Yes! My head is perfect.

[@donlestermarquez639]

@@BueskenArt thank you for ur hardwork brader. Its really helpful to my semirealistic protrate.

[@BueskenArt]

You're welcome - glad I could help!

[@dragomegaman3711]

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