BOSS RC-505 MK2 vs RC-600 // Review, tutorial // 505 MKII vs RC-505 looper / loopstation // ft. ORI

[@ORIARYEH]

Thanks for having me on your video Loopop :)

[@loopop]

Thanks SO much for being a part of this - the pleasure is all mine :)

[@Chasing_Thoughts]

That intro music was great!

[@LoupBlancEA]

Lovely voice!

[@RobertSaxy]

I stood up and clapped for you in my empty house at the of your performance, mad props …mad mad props

[@ZETONEproductions]

World Class talented.. speechless 🔥🔥🔥

[@BardicPerspiration]

Wow, the MK2 is a much bigger step up from the original than I was expecting. I went from 80% sure I wasn't upgrading to 100% sure I am during the course of the video. Thanks for the in-depth review, as always.

[@KKMDStyle]

Yes, I’m aware of this, however it’s clear that Boss is considering the idea of simplicity by making the Re 202. No tiny displays, just nice big knobs.

[@18nomah]

As a guitarist I had assumed I’d be getting the RC600. This video convinced me to get the RC505 MK2 with a midi pedalboard instead.

[@undersanction]

It's like you read my mind. I've been looking for an in-depth comparison of these two new loopers. Thanks!

[@nexgen91]

Dis you decide on one?

[@Latzenpratz]

Thanks for introducing me to the wonderful music of ORI!

[@ukiemexican]

For a sec I thought the “Mark” section was going to be a direct reference boss made to the one and only Loop Daddy aka Marc Rebillet 😂

[@CaidicusProductions]

Man, there's just something so soothing about Loopop's videos. When I'm well slept an attentive, I've to can learn an endless amount about a ton of gear. When I'm super tired and need to unfocus and chill, I can put on his videos and just vibe with it while I drift off.

[@benjaminbrodie9801]

Loopop and Loopers! I'm getting LOOPY! Great demo and insight into these cool devices.Keep up the great work. Cheers mate!

[@dillipphunbar7924]

Incredible devices...looptastic. Wonderful performance. Nice to see DJX making an appearance.

[@robertcrowell8447]

I know I’m late to the party but I was deciding between the 2 loopers . I’m a amature guitar player and a drummer I’m also 70 years old. I luv music the mk2 fits what I want to do. I don’t impress easy this video was Awsome.I wish success for you in your KZbin career.

[@Chasing_Thoughts]

Maybe this could get me out of the modular rabbit hole!🧐😂

[@mikearment652]

Great to see Se02 on the desk!!!!

[@ManCalledMif]

Great comparison. I love the OG 300 and 505 loop pedals and admire the improvements. Too many shift functions and menu diving in the new pedals for me

[@matthewwhitaker4849]

Finally. A video demoing features of these amazing units. Loved the song at the end as well. I play piano, organ, drums, keyboard and percussion. I think the RC600 would fit for me. I'm blind. Do you think I would be able to navigate around? I think if I learn what each function does, I should be ok. Keep up the amazing work.

[@loopop]

Thanks - glad you liked it! I couldn't imagine navigating the menus with my eyes closed, but if someone helped you set everything up the way you like it, you could configure the footswitches to support pretty much any looping workflow you'd like. Good luck!

[@matthewwhitaker4849]

@@loopop Yeah looks like I may need help with the menus, but I love the fact that everything can be customized. Thank you so much

[@GurungyNoHamuster]

Interesting comparison but ALSO the BEST run through of functions, and where they are. Comprehensive and clear. Thanks!

[@MinPlanck]

Great review/demo as always! Loved the performances at the end. Cheers guys. ❤

[@gritsguitar]

Very detailed and complete. Extremely helpful! I am inclined to add a 600 to my arsenal. I currently have the RC505 which is amazing. Will not upgrade to mkii as the first version serves my needs very well. Thank you for a well done and professional review of both loopers.

[@ponderoso2009]

Omg the song at the end is just awesome inspiring musicality and looping work... wow 🙏

[@Whatshisface813]

Thank you for this video! Excellent explanation of everything I just bought the MK two and have had a really hard time finding a tutorial for a beginner in all aspects of looping, Loop pedals, etc. I was ready to pull my hair out, trying to figure out some of the settings, lol. I got to looking at some of your other Content and wow, I can see my savings getting depleted fairly easy lol

[@davidstone3780]

I like how you never plugged anything into the RC-600 the entire time. Really helps you compare them.

[@loopop]

You know, up until your comment I thought my video covered them well, but I now realize the world needs a 50 minute video showing how they sound exactly the same

[@davidstone3780]

@@loopop I'm just playing anyway but it would have been nice to see somebody use it to see how the workflow looks in action. Heavy menu diving vs the 505. How easy is it to access effects in real time while recording etc. If it was just a sound video you would not even need video nobody was expecting that. It is a valid point IMO. I appreciate the level of detail put into the video and your knowledge of the products is extensive no doubt. I am curious how easy it would be to improvise with the FX on the 600 without spending a bunch of time preparing everything on the floor or with the unit on the desktop. They should have had better ways to navigate with your feet perhaps. An up/down and a select button?

[@CSW82]

Main problem with my rc500 is the amount of time I spend crouched on the floor to access pretty much any setting. With all the extra tracks, effects and options it looks like an extra controller is a must for the rc600. Or I give up a track for the 505, but would still need footswitches....

[@nexgen91]

If it were not for the limitation of 16 assigns, the 600 might have been a better choice for me, but I need hands on control of a lot of those parameters. If I need more than 5 tracks, then its time to use Ableton/ClyphX and my Pacer lol.

[@mrholmesly]

Had the 505 until recently and now thinking between the 505 mkii or 600/500. I do mostly guitar but like to mix in drums and synth with a JDXi. Any suggestions? Many thanks!

[@paulwhiting1731]

I think one of the main concerns of potential buyers is how well the MK2 syncs to midi clock, I would want it as a slave and from what I have read of the MK 1, is that, it is not good at all in that role. Most solutions to sync problems, even from Roland, is to make the 505 the master, but this is not a satisfactory answer. I hope the MK 2 has improved midi implimentation, but I haven't seen much about that, even customer service at Roland (USA) couldn't confirm if any update was made to the midi spec.

[@chriskelvin248]

I second this. But either as being a slave to another piece's clock, or using this as a master. Would be so useful to be able to tweak the tempo knob on the 505 and any outboard arpeggios/ sequences or delay settings to obediently follow along with the changes. I imagine not everyone would use this to automate their synth performances as audio from within the looper itself. Especially when there is usually so much more to fiddle around with on the source hardware.

[@acidhousetracks5271]

I as well would like to know this. I went with another option due to the midi sync issues reported about 505. I would jump on this right away if I knew the midi sync as slave (as well as master) works like it should.

[@Reconsiderate]

I'm also having these issues. The mk2 still has issues after the v1.10 software update. It's frequently freezing and crashing, not reliable.

[@BrettFunkGuitar]

Thank you so much for this video. Fantastic job all around. I just ordered the 600. I'm a 40 year guitar player, but this is my first looper. Looks fun!

[@director2bob]

I been playing guitar as well for 40 plus years and buying my first looper soon. How did the 600 work out for you? Was the learning curve easy?

[@BrettFunkGuitar]

@@director2bob Well, it's really cool. I pulled it out and got a VERY basic understanding of how it works. I played with it that night, and then I put it back in the case and I have not touched it since. That is no reflection on the looper, simply the fact that I'm busy all the time, and I'm old. I think you'll love it. The one night I spent with it was a definite proof of concept and proof of potential for me. I'm certain that with some time I could do a show with one. Like anything else, repetition... It's a tank, but definitely get the case that's made for it. Let me know how it goes for you. :D

[@DocTaTech]

Beautiful demo! And thanks for another great in depth overview :)

[@ReasonedWhistle]

SE-02 ♥ amazing review as usual 🙂

[@5amJones69]

Wow. I haven't paid attention to loopers for a while and...wow. I'm a multi-intrumentalist (not too shabby either, thanks) and this has finally made me consider getting into looping seriously.

[@erikkiekens3906]

Txs for great review this is what you are waiting for as consumer when two new loopers hit the market!!!

[@NiElsir]

Looping, like a boss!

[@Chasing_Thoughts]

Lol

[@Backingjamstudio]

The video i was waiting for ! Thx a lot. Clearly i will go for the 505 mk2 + midi pedalboard....More controls with direct access is the key compared to the rc600. Very good upgrade compared to the previous model.

[@frankstetka7206]

Though I prefer the 505mk2 form factor and much like yourself I like the extra buttons and the faders for certain, my conflict is that I am also a guitarist so my big question is how to integrate both units and then how to support stereo recordings because unless I am deaf which is quite possible, did I hear each track is mono?

[@matstevens3756]

Nice to see the old Yamaha DJX being put to good use.

[@wbajrj]

For a multi instrumentalist but mostly guitar would you recommend the RC 505 with additional foot pedals or the rc600? I feel like the 505 with foot pedals would be more versatile as it has the additional controls

[@christiana.solfire]

I'm wondering this as well! Did you go with one over the other?

[@DewsySipos]

My solution to the more assign would be to have each channel listen to a different midi channel. Like you have 16 assigns for track 1 on MIDI channel #1, track 2 on MIDI channel #2 and so on. Maybe general assigns could come in the last MIDI channel for input and output FX....

[@its.stacygabriel]

one MASSIVE thing that people should know because I watched every video trying to trouble shoot this issue... is to assign your mic to one of the Chanels for me I set it to 5.. and to turn mic OFF for the Chanels you want to record synth or guitar sounds on.... if youre a keyboard player and you have your loops set to record when you press a key.. if your mic is picking up any sound it will trigger your loop at random times and not be in sync.. you will be wondering why your bass line starts late or ends early and yank your hair out.

[@WolfGoneMad]

But by doing it like you described it will work, did I get that right? Thanks for the info!

[@voborny]

Wow the premixing capabilities alone make this worth the upgrade. One of the issues I have with the old version is that sending more than 1 instrument into it gets a kinda muddy. Especially if you're doing leads + rhythms through the same output. But with this I can premix multiple instruments with panning and then (if I'm not mistaken) submix each track out via separate outputs. That not only solves my muddy bass/keys/guitar mix but also eliminates the need to premix on a mixer which frees up like 6 channels on my mixer that I can do anything with. That is just wild. Why haven't I already upgraded???

[@TheMrCull]

And I still can’t decide which one to get! thanks for the video! Very informative!

[@frankstetka7206]

Tough huh? I love and hate both already 🤣 still in a league of there own at the price point.

[@jeanrobert6801]

I really enjoy your reviews. I check your channel everyday. Good job!

[@loopop]

Thanks!

[@mymockumentary9716]

This is quite clearly a "must watch" and I haven't even seen it yet! I have the old 505, found it a bit clunky, but very versatile. These updates are exciting. Do you still have to have the rhythm on to get it to slave to external midi clock? That was always a problem. Also the midi receive transport had some mystical menu which was another issue. I both hated the 505 yet admired it.

[@loopop]

Thanks for the trust :) re your question - I didn't try but you can always lower the level of the rhythm to zero

[@mymockumentary9716]

@@loopop absolutely, I ended up doing that, you know those generic Boss beats.... urgh. Any idea on the menu diving with the midi slave transport controls? The original 505 had to be set when turned on, and would lose the setting when turned off. Big warning to new players of the old 505, it will not slave without rhythm being turned on, thus you are unable to get set bars. Having to manual stop while all other midi devices stop automatically is not so bad, but as stated you can menu dive to get the 505 to respond to "stop". It will automatically respond to start, but not stop. I wonder if the 505-2 or 606 have this same affliction which haunted me for months and made me want to burn/smash it....

[@loopop]

@@mymockumentary9716 I don’t want to take responsibility but stop seemed to work for me…

[@808Wood]

Man I think I can get one of these and move my Deluge to synth and sound design instead of primarily a looper. this would make me happy

[@TMMx]

The Yamaha DJX was my first keyboard. I love it.

[@IIeTpOc9H4uK]

Many thanks for the first complete overview of the loopers. You are the best and the fastest :)

[@briansherling5515]

The performance at the end is truly unique and inspired and haunting and beautiful and brilliant. People who say modern music is awful, are just old vinyl with a serious scratch repeating the same thing over and over. Human Loopers! Haha This guy is a looper but NO SCRATCH! He moves on!

[@markhofland1898]

Really great viideo tutorial! All ins and outs. I'm in for buying a looper to complement my home studio. It will be the RC-600.

[@imorokr]

Can't help but feel they should've gone with USB C, considering they likely won't update it for another 5+ years. Oh well, still can't wait to get the MK2.

[@lundsweden]

Exactly, USB-C has already been around for 5 years, and is a big improvement on Micro USB, which is around 12 years old now.

[@danielpirone8028]

Fantastic video as always- and the timing is perfect. Only wish the 505 had 6 tracks … a 606?

[@outpostbabu676]

ORI is amazing. Instant subscribe! Thanks for including him on this video.

[@808Wood]

Thank god I needed to hear this

[@Sevetamryn]

Pros: Boss sticks to the Screen/UI/navigation design a BOSS user is familiar for many years with. Including screen size and resolution. Con: This is so dated,. Some innovation in UI design, bigger screens, maybe color, more easy navigation is no super expensive witchcraft anymore. Rumors say, some innovative companies included touch screens in devices - or buttons dynamically labeled by mini screens ... ;)

[@frankstetka7206]

It’s costing, a factor that probably led Boss to use that now dated usb connection probably because the parts were super discount or they had an overstock while designing the new units. The sound quality improvement alone is worth the price of admission as I intend to send many loops upstream but I still find both of these units frustrating from this lovely review. I don’t know if I should get both and pray I can sync them or wait until someone makes a great interface for a tablet 🤣

[@Dexba]

ORI live looping on the 505mk2 has the same effect as the GoPro commercials with people jumping head first into a volcano filled with sharks: I can buy the gear, but my stuff will never be THAT cool if I am the one using it 🤯

[@Gee_aye]

It looked so carefree and useful sat on his lap then I noticed all the leads coming out the back.

[@ThinkerThunker]

I use the Boss RC 202 as my PC audio interface, with effects. And it's a great scratch pad as well.

[@makitahowlstheblues8586]

Dude, incredible vocal performance ! 🤯☮️💟☯️🎯🎶🫡✊👏🤙

[@loopop]

Ori is fantastic!

[@makitahowlstheblues8586]

Absolutely…..! And great video as always ! 🙏🫡🤙🤘👏✌️

[@johnglennon6504]

​@@loopopwhat is ori ? Does that mean vocal effects are not coming from looper

[@loopop]

@@johnglennon6504Ori is the performer in the intro/outro, no external effects are used

[@johnglennon6504]

@@loopop so when your doing your vocals sound like women its ori

[@maxpowers3494]

This made me miss my Yamaha DJX so bad.

[@frankstetka7206]

Same, it was goofy but could be super cool with external effects, I should have circuit bent my DJX2 but was silly and gave it to someone who did not even want it. 🤣

[@MikeFlex]

I'm so sad that they still went with only 16 assigns and no default midi assignments...I maxed mine out straight away with the mkI+FCB1010(w/Eureka mod) and this was the one feature I was looking forward to getting some love... 😭😭😭

[@HeyImTyyy]

Awesome thanks for the detailed video! Question, I will be having my vocals, Guitar, and drum pad going through the looper. Can I export my guitar audio to my guitar amp , and then have my vocals and drum pad go through my PA system only? Thanks!!!

[@subradial]

Was looking forward to your review of them, great review as usual, thank you!

[@daroanvimusen]

the cheapest and most ergonomic stand on the market OMG thanks

[@chrislynch9364]

I unintentionally dropped tested my rc5 via a cable wrapped around my legs and my desk, it went flying across the room onto a hard vinyl floor and survived without a scratch or glitch.

[@gr8tbigtreehugger]

Many thanks for this super helpful video!

[@JuusoHoo]

Great info thanks! I was all lost with the 600 but now I have hope!😲Would be nice to have a straight saving mode to a card or stick!

[@OnToffee]

Is there anyway to 'cue' the individual tracks via headphones or something. Say you record some vocals, and it sounds out of key, and you don't want to send it to final output/mix?

[@blindcanseemusic]

the performances at the end are exceptional. Tnank you.

[@jjrusy7438]

i'm sitting here trying to imagine orchestrating one of those looper performances in my head, then actually remembering to do everything in the correct sequence. YEOW

[@gladejustglade]

It's just muscle memory.

[@TheOriginSoundtrack]

Super excited for the 505 mk2!

[@behnamzadeh1936]

Best of best .important is track salect 6 track recording wich is not explain by nobody only in this video.thank you very much

[@shankiphonic]

the comparison I've been waiting for. pre-watch, my gut says the 505mkII is the one for me. (and I'm in the market). I'm also trying verify that an RC makes more sense than an Octatrack for live looping (I expect the short answer is yes), but there's a longer, "it depends" answer, I'm sure.

[@nexgen91]

I think as far as hands on control and immediacy, the 505 takes the cake. The OT is a beast though. If its strictly for looping, and you don't want to sample/sequence/sound mangle/etc then probably go 505 :) just my opinion though.

[@_monoaural1993]

Watched to whole Video. Thank you so much for all the informations. Great as usuall ❤️👍🏻 Love Oris Tracks at the end. ❤️❤️❤️

[@sunnyschramm9650]

would it be possible to use a midi-controller with faders an button via CC on the rc 600 to get the better build-quality AND the controls of the rc 500? I prefer the 600 a lot over the 505 even when I´m no guitarist and would use it in the studio on the desk with voice and synths.

[@ponderoso2009]

Absolutely great coverage of both products... my first time viewing your channel and thoroughly impressed... everything I wanted to know and more.... loved the music sections too, very nice 👏👏👏 Insta subscriber

[@Rollur1234]

Wow incredible performance!!

[@loopop]

Ori is fantastic!

[@orianajones5143]

I always want to know more about how things are being recorded. How does his recording sound so crisp? I recently got the Circuit Tracks for a DAW less setup paired with my OG Boss Rc505. I got a cheap mixer too so I could create music from Circuit Tracks and record vocals separately on my Boss. If anyone has a similar setup I’m all ears. Trying to bring it all together and have the final output sound as good as it does in my headphones! Thanks for the thorough video rundown and amazing musician! Cheers

[@dennismossinkoff7993]

it looks like that Roland made a complete one!!!! THANX.....Mr Loopop too ;-}

[@kendavismusictheworld]

I purchased Two original RC 505 Mk Ones and have enjoyed the recording of a complete Live Performance in 90 Saved Two Track Masters Wth Extras and y own keyboard for live This Mk 2 Has More Updated Effects but I spent two years perfecting RC Mk 1 So will get a Mk 2 In A Few Months! Ken Davis International Composer Sydney Australia

[@hiding_my_name]

Dammit Mr. LoopOperator... Your videos are so good. I haven't had GAS for an item this bad in a looooong time. Even watching Marc Rebillet use one didn't make me want to buy one. But this video really has me itching to get one now!

[@mrthingamabob8117]

Amazing review and performance ! Now I just need to decide which one to get !

[@OttoMilde]

Great review, and beautiful music from Ori! One thing I'm very curious to know is how these machines work in sync with other hardware. Do you think it would work well to have a Digitakt or another drum machine as master clock and sync the loop station so that the drums and other sounds would come from the Digitakt and you could build the rest of the song on the loop station?

[@loopop]

Thanks! I tried basic sync and it worked, but you know how these things are, it's hard to guarantee every setup

[@VJFranzK]

Yamaha DJX 2 keyboard! 0:18 An EDM focused keyboard from the early 2000's (Still have my DJX 2b beatbox.)

[@andr01de]

Always the best review on the internet

[@martinafleiss8456]

thanks for the video! I am still a bit confues about which one to get.. I play violin but as far as I've understood it makes little sense then to get the RC505 since it has to be operated by hands, or? Even though it seems this one has more effects and different knobs.. sry Iḿ rly a beginner in this..

[@loopop]

Thanks! Everything I know is in the video though, not much I can add other that you can connect pedals to the RC505, so if you're hands free up, you'll have more hands on controls

[@Rollur1234]

Thats incredible guitar effect

[@kisho2679]

does it have sidechain and ducking?

[@frodo-i6b]

thanks for your video! noob-question: can you build a song by switching (easily) from intro to chorus / verse / refrain, outro etc?

[@loopop]

you're welcome and yes!

[@frodo-i6b]

@@loopop wow, thnx!

[@dieguillo93]

Came for the tutorial, stayed because of your voice, jesus christ!

[@flintlockwoodhd7932]

Beatboxing to this 😂😂 what a deep loop station rabbit hole

[@scotttait2197]

Came to see the 505 ... guys using a yamaha djx (1) brilliant a much understated 90s keyboard

[@DICARLOSxBE]

With all the options it is even harder to know what looper I want...RC505 with foot pedal or RC600 with midi controller :D

[@ghostandtapeDoesVideo]

As usual terrific video! Simply great work. Wish the 505 had been designed differently. Its simply too ugly for me to add it to my studio. The aesthetics remind me of big, plastic toys for kids. Also don’t understand the size if the buttons. If its meant to be used by hand they really don’t need to be that big. It has a techno appeal to me that doesn’t make much sense for a looper imo

[@manstuarta9066]

Great video, as always! Question: loopers are meant for live looping, so Why in 2022 there are still no hardware portable loopers with integrated lithium rechargeable battery and usb-c? They will have all my money…

[@loopop]

Thanks! I don't know the answer of course, but my guess is that since the instruments they're looping will also need power, they're figuring it's not just their problem, or at least not getting a lot of demand from customers. As you probably know you can get a huge 110/220 lithium battery these days

[@manstuarta9066]

@@loopop thank you for your point of view on this. :) I get your point but I still think that a portable looper would be a very interesting product. Without carrying around extra dongles. Thank you again and thank you for all your greats reviews!

[@dubbylabby6068]

IPhone is the ultimate portable looper machine. You can add or not dongles to expand its cappabilities but also you can get a ripcord cable and run rc loopers on battery power so…

[@l.g.5899]

Can it be a good idea using 505 mk 2 and a midi footpedal (I'm considering the big Behringer midi pedalboard with many controls ad two volume controls, too) to control guitar parts? Are effects good even for an electric guitar (I would play ambient music)? Thanx in advance, guys.

[@klausmuller9924]

Hi Loopop Is there a Function, where a recording is gradually fading away as it plays along over and over (frippertronic) ? That would be super cool

[@frankenjstein9371]

Trying to decide which one to get with a hangover is really difficult and painful.

[@mrholmesly]

Sold the OG RC 505 2 days ago. Think i'm gonna go with the RC 600 when it gets out. I'm a guitarist and also have the Dreadbox Typhon. Would like to change that one with the Roland Jdxi as it has drums too, to go for a synthwavey 80' sound for live. If Anyone has an additional advice for the rig or alternatives, they are very welcome! Anyway, great review as always! 👌

[@thiagomirandavideos]

Hi! Thanks for the video! Do you know if it can be used as USB interface?

[@tablaninja]

Great tour and excellent performance! Bravo!

[@AZTEC_ARTS2023]

What AFFORDABLE monitor / speaker with GOOD sound would you recommend ?

[@michaellyle8769]

You read my mind, thank you. Much needed.

[@sir-gamesalot]

How would you rate the quality of the time stretching between the RC-600 and RC-500?

[@greendrinkguy1882]

That was the best RC-600 and the best RC-505mk2 video on youtube! U R both so above average.. Have U figured out what is the ideal MIDI table-top controller to control the rc600 for live performances? (-with enough volume knobs [or faders] for all 6 channels +enough other buttons and knobs to trigger everything possible (without having a bunch of extra buttons that are taking up space +of no use..)

[@loopop]

Thanks! There are plenty to choose from - not one I can recommend but make sure what you're looking at has a MIDI output otherwise you'll need a USB MIDI host alongside it.

[@djvartan]

Hey Boss, fire the guy who designed the tabletop and promote the one who designed the floor model.

[@karlitosyeye]

Great video! Do you have a video where you explain midi functionality? I have an SPD-SX PRO as a master and the RC 505 as the slave... I'm having some issues with the time sync

[@DirtleTilbury]

Good revview as always...killer performance