Analog HEAT +FX // The trick it uses to breath life into effects // Review, tutorial // Elektron

[@catchthehare]

Tips for manufacturers: * Give Loopop your device well in advance to production. * Take note of all “Cons” * Implement changes * Release to public * Rejoice

[@dingbatjack1234]

As a heat fx owner myself I can every single request is reasonable and spot on! I hope they implement these!

[@syrupcore]

The envelope AD vs AR section felt like a mini master class. So perfectly explained.

[@nikolafeve]

The best reviewer is back 🙏🏻

[@Wagoo]

props to whoever worked on the OSD for these new FX Also props to Elektron for always having rackmounting options for their gear

[@lundsweden]

There are rack mounting options?!

[@Wagoo]

@@lundsweden yep, Elektron sell a rack kit for these sized units (also Digitakt, Digitone, Syntakt) where two units will fit side by side in a rack

[@HEsi1bm]

You got a link? There are no rack kits on their site I can find except for the bigger units.

[@Wagoo]

@@HEsi1bm hmm.. you know what. I misremembered. This is not an official Elektron rackmount kit. This was made by "Fraction Industries".. and unfortunately it looks like they're no longer in business as their domain is a parking page now. That's a bit frustrating as I have Digitakt+Digitone in one, and was planning to get another when I got Syntakt+Heat... hrm. I'm not sure if anyone's doing a similar mounting kit right now :/

[@fulanxi6434]

@@Wagoo Build your rack yourself lol.

[@learnerslikeus]

I like how they rolled this out. Elektron’s own vids this morning. Then the usual suspects showing out after. Was hoping loopop would be reviewing! And here it is. 😊

[@beatnikcafe]

If they had added at least 8 seconds of delay this would be amazing - even 4 seconds maybe, I’m with loopop for the addition of a looper, it would really be a much easier purchase for me, and suit my particular work/play flow

[@compucorder64]

Yip. If it's a limitation in the hardware, they could allow switching to mono to double the allowed delay time. At least with the looper function, and the delay, there are really good even cheap options from other manufacturers. Like the Ditto. Or really interesting creative tools like the Soma Labs Cosmos. Overall, I'm glad they added the critical functions like compression / limiting. But the pricing is set at slightly offputting level. Hopefully, they can build something like this into at least a four channel stereo mixer, with configurable crossfader, and at least two channels of effects and a master section; maybe even phono inputs? If they could do that well for Octatrack price, even up to 2k for 6-channels, I could see a device like that becoming a staple industry device for most live PAs. And flexible per channel loopers would be killer. Especially with a compact modular.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

and not doubled the price! I paid $600 vs 1k for last gen Heat

[@myNamezMe]

As a AHmk2 owner I would have been more exited if it also was able to assign different analog effects to multiple individual tracks at the same time.

[@musicislife704]

Just got mine was wondering can I use more than one effect at time

[@Farold_Haltermeyer]

@@musicislife704you bought it without knowing that?!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

i have the AH MK2 and this looks great but I wish it has multiple stereo inputs so can route more than one device.

[@spot1119]

You can always use overbridge to get more I/o

[@OMEGAGENESIS-gw2fx]

I would rather them make an Analog Heat mixer. It would have been way better if they added something like 4-6 stereo/mono inputs. I still think this is cool, but I'm not sure if it's for me. I've been thinking about getting an MK2. I guess it's only $100 more, but I was waiting to get a used MK2 for a good price. I basically want it to run my new MPC X SE through.

[@samye2001]

If u just wanna use these saturations and colouring on inserts then mk2 will defo do. Plus you have mpc for the reverb and delay. Functionality-wise the AH+FX is an overkill for the purpose you said.

[@BeardslapRadio]

Yes! An Elektron performance mixer is what is needed, something like the MX-1.

[@compucorder64]

Yes, I'd love to see them make a performance mixer that's like four slightly stripped down stereo channels of this. And with sequencing, and CV and MIDI control over volume etc ...

[@GrayGhostDog1]

I've been keeping my eyes open for a unit similar to this to use with my MPC X SE, Push 3/Ableton Live, and several synths and drum machines. Technically it would have been great to process more than 2 inputs at a time, but my guess is that type of unit would probably cost more than twice as much as this new unit... the analog section is most beneficial for my use case, but the effects section is literally a plus for me. I did not want to invest in a bunch of stereo effects pedals or a pricey and large analog mixer.

[@rafa787]

@@compucorder64 agree

[@gcoller]

Would have been nice to allow chorus to get down to flanging speeds. I agree that they kind of waste that big beautiful screen with OP1 style images instead of more info/meters/settings. The images are fun the first time you see them but I'd rather see both pages of control settings at once. Pretty cool evolution of a decent piece of kit and now there'll be a ton of original heat's listed for those of us who already have good FX boxes but want the dirt/filters.

[@BoyRatty-ds7yb]

Looks nothing like OP-1 screen/images 😊.

[@atommachine]

All your Points you would like to see is spot on , i hope they implement 98 percent of them. Thankyou.

[@Slowlyburnedelectronics]

For 1k IMHO It makes more sense to buy a used octatrack. Comparing to this unit, it has 4 I/O , mixer and most of the effects. Great review btw!

[@Jxnxdoe]

Good point

[@mdeerocks6792]

Makes sense, I just wish Octatrack FX were a bit better, esp. the reverb

[@Slowlyburnedelectronics]

@@mdeerocks6792 Agree! It's a compromise that sb has to make.

[@dzndzl]

I am an Elektron nut, but at this price point not sure why anyone would get this over the Eventide H90.

[@gustavogastelum9024]

The 8 fully analog stereo distortion circuits is the appeal of this machine really but the +FX is something I was begging for. 🤍😭I’m really glad they did this.

[@dzndzl]

@@gustavogastelum9024 I can’t imagine people are realistically going to use all 8 though, and you can only have one of them active at a time. What I would have expected at this point from Elektron on a dedicated FX box would be new algorithms. Like shimmer reverb or reverse delay. You won’t be able to achieve those here even with the mod section. The reverb and delay sections aren’t different in sound from the existing units, and I would argue you have more control over them on Elektron units themselves where the send level can be set on a per track basis. With this unit you will be sending everything into a sum of all. This unit is far more appealing to users of non-Elektron devices in my opinion.

[@EnochDark]

Or over say a Meris LVX + another like Otobit Jr...

[@klaasvandrunen3098]

It sounds very good. Have my interest. The next step is a Mixer heat fx. More ins, more knobs, better tweak ability. A cc midi controller is almost a must now.

[@samuelmckahey7226]

Yeah that’s coming in the MKII of the MKIIl.

[@nagchumpalot]

Whole community Been asking for that for so many years kinda surprised they did this instead..

[@compucorder64]

@@nagchumpalot Cheaper to do an extension of an already existing product, in a similar form factor, and charge more for it, than to innovate.

[@user-th6rh8zp3t]

yea thats never gonna happen

[@regplasma7906]

Totally brilliant review / tutorial . You are the best.

[@Alckemy]

I’ve been doing a ton of research on this and I’m pretty sure the saturator works as a clipper you literally can smash your signal. Also weird there’s no inherent limiter… would also like a dedicated soft clip so you can smash any distortion type

[@screamingstrings76]

and of course my boy loopop is on it immediately! OMG THAT NEW STARTUP SCREEN IS SO FIRE. Literally

[@HelicopterRidesForCommunists]

I truly believe that the little graphics and animations on the interfaces of Elektron gear and things like the OP1 help artists elevate their creative output and help fuel inspiration.

[@GlitchComputer]

A one stop shop for everything I need. Love it !!!

[@patrickpoggensee6333]

For me the OTO Boum chained after the octatrack is still more interesting. They missed the opportunity of more inputs here.

[@skormm-v7z]

Would like to see Oto providing a headphone connectivity.

[@ThroughTheBag]

I really wish this was just an update for the AHmk2 as I just got one haha

[@overwatchsmurfchannel4294]

Yeah it's a pretty bad feeling for people who just got AHmk2, wish they wouldn't have sold it to me if they knew this was coming out

[@stinkypete9070]

Man this thing would be neato as a one stop box for processing random stuff. I'd want one to throw random stuff through it, kalimba, accordion, the drunk neighbour screaming at 2am, stuff like that.

[@Matthewsavant]

Not adding the sequencer in a critical mistake imo, Imagine per step parameter locking for the effects as we do with the Octatrack...Especially for the asking price which is weirdly high considering what the unit does and doesn't do

[@tovermoran4360]

Yeah, especially as the Syntakt has FX block sequencing.

[@ryanhursh6322]

I thought the same. Don’t love the FX but give it a sequencer and it could be a lot more interesting.

[@Kaje05]

Do you think the delay and reverb were redesigned? Or brought over from the older boxes?

[@ryanhursh6322]

@@Kaje05 I suspect it’s a new reverb unless it’s just a new visual element they added. I’ve never been wowed by the delay and reverb but they’ve always been welcome and very usable however for a very expensive multi-effects processor… they aren’t worth that much dosh.

[@Matthewsavant]

@@Kaje05 judging by how Elektron have be repurposing old tech since the release of the Analog four and analog rytm with slight tweaks sometimes (like how the Digitakt is literally just the sample engine from the AR) I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the same effects from the other boxes with some little tweaks. It’s too bad because Elektron for years were all about innovation

[@vinylarchaeologist]

To those wanting a sequencer: it would have substantially increased size, or do you see anywhere on the device the space for sequencer buttons and knobs? However, I do agree that a second stereo input would‘ve made it way better. Elektron obviously cut corners here: nothing about the physical enclosure changed, so they recycled that, and the analogue part of it is probably the same. I guess only the digital part was updated for more computing power to add the FX.

[@uberzone5836]

Yeah, get rid of the arbitrarily large drive knob and make it the same size as the rest of the encoders. Push the rest of the knobs up and there is plenty of room for 16 buttons like the rest of the Takts.

[@jarkokoo]

Unfortunately the case thing just makes sense, as they already have a production line for it (i.e. it's probably been seriously cheaper, easier and faster to put the unit in the full production). Same as with the Syntakt/Digitakt thing. But man... the second pair of stereo inputs (with separate processing lines) would've been a serious selling point for me. Now... unfortunately nothing I need THAT much that I would pay the price of 999e. But a cool unit nevertheless, but the price for ME is just way out of the ballpark.

[@mdeerocks6792]

This is great, but I wish they had a version with just a compressor and good limiter + regular Heat distortion. I am not quite sure I want to have a delay at the end of the chain. Maybe, tempted to give this box a go, price is quite high though

[@Gruftgrabbler]

I think that could be handy during breakdowns & ambient/Drone Tracks. But I tend to say that I am excited, but also somewhat confused about this product

[@nelio123]

I agree that they could add in more, esp. a sequencer. But I‘m playing it since it came out in a techno live jamming band and man, it’s soooo much fun to play with and to use it to fit in or cut through a mix. I hope for an update with some more effect types.

[@donit.]

Cool stuff, but other companies like Arturia would have done this kind of stuff as a free firmware update and Elektron makes a whole new version that looks exactly the same, it feels a bit unnecessary to be honest.

[@jarkokoo]

I'm fairly sure the MKII doesn't have the CPU power for all the digital effects here, especially at the same time. Another story, if they'd have been able to add at least some of the digital effects into the MKII. It of course can be physically also impossible (not sure about the signal chain in MKII). I would really like to see the chorus added, even as a bit of a stripped versions, into Syntakt/Digitakt/Digitone. It's something a LOT of people have requested for some time now.

[@thelevicole]

@@jarkokoo They are the same exact processor. I've looked at them side by side and they are identical apart from some swapped out opamps and transistor arrays.

[@jamesherndon8066]

I’m wondering with the addition of digital effects if 1) There will be new fx in firmware updates 2) If you can duplicate fx in the chain.

[@Judasz696]

So they added a bunch of digital fx and modulation and called it a day? Why not more inputs and outputs and no elektron sequencer for fx?

[@cwehden]

Sold my compressor and reverb pedals to fund this all in one solution, many thanks 🙏🏻

[@jimharris6389]

Put a sequencer in it

[@MrPeyghman]

Its really a bummer that they didnt… sequencing effects with the elektron sequencer would have been so rad

[@yvesbajulaz]

Next version…. So you buy another…

[@spltrcl]

very edifying review, as usual! for the 'Tronics to really grip my already high interest into purchasing and using, 1) longer "delay" times would seriously help --- at least in the 20s range, imo + 2) incl. looping w/overdubs, reversals & otre modulations/flexibilities, as would 3) offering choices for the player to fully disengage/re-engage with midi-sync-to-bpm IRT, 2) beat-division quantisations (re: sync) that include divisors/multipliers beyond the old confines of only simple duples & trines.

[@Synthwave-gl9qw]

I own a AH MKii, and this newer version that just provides effects, I was really hoping they could of added a 3-5 band EQ as well and other features for its price point. I’m honestly would just wait for this to get into the used market (reverb). It’s just not worth the 1k in my opinion.

[@ringsystemmusic]

$1000 for a glorified multi-effects? lmao

[@EverettDudgeon138]

@@ringsystemmusic Pffft there's delay and drive pedals that cost more than that.

[@Synthwave-gl9qw]

@@ringsystemmusic yeah 1k… ima just wait till the GAS hype gets over with so then some people be selling those used+FX from 700-800 USD at reverb. It’s best to save money and be patient to find those deals, especially that I got my AH MKii for 500 USD, it was a steal before this new one came out.

[@John_Stone_]

@@ringsystemmusic A single reverb pedal goes for $500USD these days (Big Sky for instance). This is more bang for your buck than 7 to 10 different fx pedals, analog filter and drive/distortion pedals. And easier to keep organized.

[@mattkaz9604]

It's nice but I'm not dying to buy it. They need to put gain compensation on the bit crusher though - AFAIK virtually any signal that gets down to minimum bitrate is going to produce full amp square waves that sound ridiculously loud.

[@iancain6647]

All hail loopop, synth review king.

[@Axiohm000]

I wish this was a update for the Anolog Heat MKii. This is the 3rd AH box in less than 10 years.

[@Alesistx2023]

Thanks. It is crazy seeing the Elektron fanboys happy that their overlords have once again cut them out at the financial knees by releasing significantly better gear in the same line within a few years, making the “old” item obsolete. Besides being annoying, this is a really environmentally unsound approach to business (“more stuff, Yahoo!”).

[@ickebins6948]

@@Alesistx2023 How is the old stuff obsolete? It still does what it was designed to and sold as...

[@Alesistx2023]

​@@ickebins6948 Music equipment at a certain price point must be viewed as an investment. These are, end of day, commodities, traded widely on platforms like Reverb and eBay. When people need to make rent money, or fund a kid's braces, they can at times rest easy that they may have a piece or two of gear that, if purchased strategically, will actually represent a marginal gain if sold. This is really no difference, for instance, than buying a car -- it serves a purpose (creation) and can still hold resale value if properly maintained. Elektron used to be like investing in a Honda or Jeep, but this stuff feels more Chevy with each passing release.

[@Artersa]

@@Alesistx2023 very good point IMO.

[@ickebins6948]

@@Alesistx2023 Seen as an investment? It is a tool to make money or having fun with as a hobby. Technology will always go forward, so prices for old gear will drop. It's not like electron makes 1000 units per years, so there is some kind of scarcity created. If someone struggles financially they should not "invest" in anything outside there own life or family. And you still did not tell me where the gear is getting obsolete...

[@chinmitten]

I wasn’t able to get the first batch of these but I’m really excited for it. I also have an Ensoniq DP/4, which I’ll keep but I can probably ditch my rack SSL Fusion. This just does more and sounds better

[@Nikmas23]

The screen is a strangely ice cold colour scheme for a HEAT. This may seem trivial, but stuff like this does matter. Also, the animations are beautiful (most beautiful Elektron screen ever?) but I do feel that vital information is being sacrificed for it, like input/output levels of the circuits. That’s crucial stuff, now obfuscated behind pomp and glitter.

[@n_o_]

now that you mention it, i'd be feeling some aftermarket color temperature orange screen gels

[@robertsyrett1992]

add a few more inputs and a sequencer section and I'd get one.

[@isaac.anthony]

i wonder if the other elektron boxes couldn't send midi data for fx sequencing?

[@reecedeyoung6595]

​@@isaac.anthony they could, and so could your DAW

[@atetraxx]

​@@isaac.anthony absolutely. Probably why they didn't add one. Would've raised the price considerably.

[@robertsyrett1992]

@@isaac.anthony good point, digitake and octatrack certainly have enough LFOs on the midi tracks to do something interesting. The problem with such configurations is usually having to make a cheat sheet of the relevant midi CCs.

[@RJ_Eckie]

This looks spectacular. I’ve been researching multi fx boxes for a bit (and did get one.) I’m not sure I know of any multi FX box that has this level of control and mod-power. And it sounds wonderful too

[@ickebins6948]

Maybe have a look at the H-90.

[@RJ_Eckie]

@@ickebins6948 I’m not an expert on it, but from what I understand it only runs two algorithms at a time

[@ickebins6948]

@@RJ_Eckie Sure thats true but do you really need all those effects at once?

[@RJ_Eckie]

@@ickebins6948 Yes I was specifically looking for a box that lets me use all kinds of effects in creative ways, and allow modulation across them as well. I currently use the Boss GT1000 Core which has some shortcomings, but is wonderful and extremely flexible overall

[@ickebins6948]

@@RJ_Eckie Ok then the H90 might not be the right thing. But it has Stereo send and return, so you can have it in your signal chain with other effects pedals too.

[@NiElsir]

That looks really nice - and Overbridge 👍

[@bullet1218]

Great review and information on this product....The Loopop stamp of approval...now time for purchase...💯👍

[@kylew706]

I’ve been waiting for a H90 but thank god this came out cuz forget the H90 this thing is killer!

[@joelou]

would love if it had 2 sets in in. but it looks like ill have to stick with the HX Stomp

[@rorz999]

This looks great, but I know that the price will mean I'll probably never buy one

[@gz625]

It's "just" 1k$ 😂

[@djtomt]

That thing is a beast. Great review! Thanks!

[@Axl_Pose]

Almost bought the Heat Mk2 a few months back, ended up grabbing the Filterbank2 instead with the thought of getting the Heat at a later date. Good thing I waited!

[@musicislife704]

Analog heat mk2 is same and dope🔥 should’ve got it was just on sale

[@ErcolanoMarco]

Hi . I tried to contact Elektron but they don't give me an answer about analog heat fx. The question is about gain staging. It is normal that by using the rear analog L/R inputs (therefore without using overbridge) and by putting the analog heat in bypass (after having adjusted the input to the maximum possible volume), I have a signal in the DAW that reaches the maximum around at -23 dbfs? Even if I activate the analog heat and adjust the output with the level knob I can push the maximum around - 23 dbfs before activating the exclamation point on the output meters. Can't I get a stronger signal out? If I push the signal more the exclamation points above the analog heat meters light up. Is it possible to increase the output signal without cutting anything? The channel on my apollo x16 is set to +4 dBu and I have no low volume issues with any other external hardware I own to get at least -12 dbfs in my DAW. I just want to know if this is a normal feature of the analog heat fx or I have some problem. Thank you and congratulations for your great work!

[@vvcv__00]

Since all music is a moving/evolving sine wave, and its 2nd harmonics, wait until you hear a form of music which can be found within a sine waves singularity. As a safety precaution, you may want to begin this form of, negative-sine-wave, music within the waves event horizon.

[@tafonyreynolds]

looks awesome, but I wouldnt pay half of what theyre asking, this is getting to TE level

[@jarkokoo]

Yeah, even though I think this looks and sounds like a marvellous box and, if I wouldn't already own so many other effects, which kinda wipe the floor with most of what this box has, this is definitely in a luxury item price range. This said: if this unit would've been there, let's say 2 years ago, I would've seriously though about it as a master processor for my live-setup, as it adds some of the things MKII was missing and I would've needed. But yeah, I gotta agree a bit, the price is pretty rough for most people. Not expecting these units to fly off the shelves, but most likely will be in the studio of every KZbin influencer and hardcore Elektron addict. :)

[@ciatangallaghe2485]

Ya it's a guitar pedal with rubber knobs.

[@HelicopterRidesForCommunists]

@@ciatangallaghe2485and neat little gameboy aesthetic screen

[@Spacechord]

best video on YT about it... 🥰🥰🥰

[@drindy5166]

Not knowing much about this hardware, where would you find this as far as application or most useful? Live performance, is it more studio oriented gear? Is it something that would be considered useful for pre or post effects hands on gear? Curious as to thoughts on this unit and it's purpose... any thoughts???

[@bitspacemusic]

I have the original Heat on my mixer's master bus. A touch of Clean Boost or Saturation sounds so good. The MIDI-controlled, stand alone stereo filter in itself is a pretty rare phenomenon. These new FX makes it even more versatile for tracking.

[@drindy5166]

@@bitspacemusic 🔥👊🧡👍🔥

[@samye2001]

It’s both because the filter on these are quite intuitive and good sounding and all the analogue colouring is so good

[@pepejul]

Can LFO phase start be triggered/reset by master transport or is it only free running? On mkii there are some trigger options but no real way to have LFO reset when hitting play. That is my biggest con of AH (which I love nonetheless).

[@jpjameson]

If you had to pick one... H90 or the Heat +FX which would you chose?

[@loopop]

It depends for what - for mastering/light/heavy distortion/saturation - I'd go with Heat, for overall variety of effects, H90 unless I really wanted to get creative with the envelope follower

[@charlesbronson2806]

Are the delays reverbs etc that much different than whats in thier other boxes? The distortions are nice but the digital effects are underwhelming.

[@mdeerocks6792]

They sound roughly the same on the video. Hard to tell, my best guess that they are the same.

[@nightcitywanderer]

Price at release, for anyone curious: $1,000 USD

[@Artersa]

You going through the distortion circuits with the acid line sounded like the intro to a few different big beat tunes, right down to the timbre changing slightly every few bars.

[@Claidheambmor]

The clickbait title is not worthy of the excellent and thoughtful presentation of the device. Really top notch work. Thank you and well done!

[@loopop]

Bummer you feel that way about the title, and happy you feel that way about the video.

[@biblecontroversy9854]

The way the effects blocks are illustrated on the flow page makes it seem as though it is a serial chain. However, since each effects block has its own wet dry mix, that seems to suggest that the effects are actually run in parallel. Can you shed some light on the routing. I looked in the manual and although they do show a diagram, I wasn't able to make heads or tails of it.

[@substance90]

That's what I wondered about too

[@emmerichk]

I really don´t see the point of having all those fx´s if there is only 1 input , specially at this price

[@rafa787]

agree. if it had the 4 inputs and 4 outputs and 2 expression inputs like the eventide h90 would make sense the routing feature.

[@colrblind]

wow.. your response time is incredible. awesome video!

[@loopop]

thanks - I did have this in advance though!

[@mikegeary8056]

This is kinda like my Zoom multi effects pedal.

[@SeaofWires-dx4hm]

Nowhere near than may effects. Just one of each basic.

[@mass-1128]

Honestly, I think it was absolutely pointless for Digitakt to release a new version with FX whereby they could've added the FX and modulation with a firmware update to the MK2 for the consumer.

[@am5790]

such a dilemma due to the price......could sell one of the boxes( Heat MK 1 .... but DT , DN and OctaI rather not sell them since they are central to my setup.) But this was exactly what I wanted ( more in and out )....however, a great surprise and caught me off guard.

[@sinwithsebastian]

Can k2s be updated - looks like a firmware thing

[@saffetesen7559]

Hallo how can i combo with digitakt &syntakt&digitone &analog heat fx quarter combi connect

[@DCaseyTucker]

I'm thinking back to when I recently purchased my Analog Heat mkII and I'm remembering that my main motivation wasn't to acquire another digital effects box, but to add pure analog distortion into my chain. Having balanced stereo ins and outs and eight analog circuits is what sold me. If this had existed back then I'd probably have still purchased the mkII. This looks fun but it's not for me.

[@nositrecords]

It is extremely expensive but than again i don't know of any other hardware that can do all that in a single unit and it does sound good.

[@user-yo8ub7sf7t]

Elektron is done man... Give us the next iterative MD/MM/OT/DT.. 16 voice DT would sell tons of units but Elektron would never do it, 'not restrictive enough'.

[@danyrockjr]

Hi Mr Loopop, Do you think this multi-effect box is worth its price compared to the competition? Do you know any alternatives in terms of quality? Thank you for your reply. Kind regards. DRJ

[@loopop]

I think the quality here is excellent, but there are SO many effects boxes out there, it's really hard to say what's worth it, I think it depends on how much you appreciate and will use the analog circuits here

[@danyrockjr]

Thank you for your reply. Do you know of an alternative in terms of performance? @loopop

[@KnowledgeOfSelf144]

Maybe you could consider the SP 404 by roland it’s really cool for performance and about half the price

[@danyrockjr]

Thanks for the advice@@KnowledgeOfSelf144

[@SELEKTROw]

So it just a really nice firmware upgrade that you have to buy another box for?

[@Wagoo]

They may not have had the chip the digital effects run on in the original.. however the thought did cross my mind. It'd be interesting to see how the PCBs differ

[@SELEKTROw]

@@Wagoo i bet its almost identical on the boards, chips is always what they say, even if nothing else facing the user is diffent. If it is a new chip they just should have held release the mk2 and packaged all as a full product, imagine getting the +fx added later (for free) builds appreciation and loyalty. Ive loved elektron and the music their boxes have given us in good hands, really do, but its getting stupidly out of reach now. compare this with arturia freak free firmware upgrade features, or mutable plaits firmware drop. even roland added fm to the tr8s....the syntakt and now this were its another box each week for diffent selection of software 'machines' built into their tiny screens? I want to keep loving elektron and lusting after their kit but they will be selling branded tables and wooden dolls next ;-)

[@ickebins6948]

@@SELEKTROw Well look at the digitakt, still getting massive updates. Good thing, nobody needs to be a blind fanboy and love everything a company puts out.

[@kitespongan]

Now, I’ve got to decide between Analog Heat +FX, Eventide H90, Hotone Ampero II, or TC Electronics Plethora X3!!😢😅😮

[@----248]

Mod duo X?

[@Bork_In_Volcanic]

Get OG Heat Mk2 (or Oto Boum) and Eventide.

[@kitespongan]

@@Bork_In_Volcanic I own the Heat MK1 and just listed for sale. I was thinking the Boum too, but not sure.

[@kitespongan]

@@----248 yeah I remember it the Mod duo was so compelling a bit ago, but the display looks.. yikes right? Do you own one?

[@----248]

@@kitespongan No but i've been looking for an effects machine forever and i was wondering if there was a reason you left it out your list since it kind of does most of what you listed. Mod duo X is different than Mod Duo tho.

[@user-iq9kb4rp7g]

Realy good reverb.

[@tekis0]

OK: I had an AH once, but had to sell it when I was in a jam. Time to start saving again...

[@Kaje05]

Looks so dope. Only thing I find a little weird is the inclusion of a digital bit crusher in an analog distortion box. Not saying they’re the same effect, but knowing how crunchy the AH is, it seems like the bit crusher will pretty much be usless

[@loopop]

The digital bit crush and sample rate reduction sound very different IMHO

[@Kaje05]

@@loopop could you comment on how the reverb and delay differ from the ones found in the rest of the Digi lineup? Are they pretty much the same?

[@loopop]

@@Kaje05 you’re hearing them just like me, but to me, they sound very similar. I didn’t do a side-by-side test

[@jamesglewmusic]

@@loopop When I spoke to them at Superbooth they said they were the mostly the effects from the Digis, the compressor being the Digitakt one with a bug fix.

[@loopop]

@@jamesglewmusic cool yes that’s what they sound like

[@evandiehl520]

I'm interested in the routing capabilities. For the digital delay can you set it up so the analog distortion and filter are in the feedback loop?

[@loopop]

no

[@isaac.anthony]

so like the old MK2 isn't powerful enough to run these new FX? why not just a software upgrade?

[@rorz999]

Because they make more money this way

[@hollywood4834]

@@rorz999 this is Elektron you’re talking about, still doing massive free updates for the Digitakt after 6 years.

[@hollywood4834]

It probably doesn’t have enough DSP for that many effects

[@----248]

@@hollywood4834 I mean the main reason is because the used market is flooded with digitakt. People (like myself) are not keeping it. So in a sense they needed to update it. Still a long way to go tho.

[@shapeshiftersmediagroup]

Sheesh!!!! Elektron for the win! AGAIN. They are such a damn good company. Excellent review as aways Loopop!

[@magicseadog8674]

most of the comments seem pretty unimpressed.

[@Half_Acid]

Dwight Twilley Band - Looking For The Magic

[@lundsweden]

Why buy this when you can get guitar multifx much cheaper? The only reason I can think why this might appeal is that you like the particular tone colour of this unit, or you're an Elektron collector, lol!

[@magicseadog8674]

This is way more complicated than a guitar pedal. Way way way more complicated. Why bother getting a guitar pedal when you could just use your phone?

[@OIP_1]

personally: i'd be playing this next to the digitakt. it's still a bit of a luxury purchase but the form factor and MIDI integration would be a big selling point.

[@lundsweden]

@@magicseadog8674 Yeah, phone is an option, but if pedals have a certain sound, I will buy it. I have pedals, IOS FX and plugins.

[@lundsweden]

@@OIP_1 Yeah it is expensive. I got mine secondhand, so the thought is I could sell it (at no loss) if I find I don't like it. It is a really good sounding box, but not as flexible as the Digitakt. I think I just like samplers better!

[@skormm-v7z]

It's a great tool for electronic musicians! Example: If you have multiple synths connected to a mixer from there you go into the AH then into the speakers.

[@Tony2dH]

Imagine if you could send multiple stereo tracks to it using USB input!

[@JonMurray]

750 quid for bit crush and distortion though.

[@cardboardmusic]

Looks great, but I'm like you (say), I'm surprised some of these companies don't think of giving us the possibility to have more inputs, like (example) 4, maybe. I'm dreaming of a multichannel 'Microcosm' (as an example), could this have been it 🤔.

[@ickebins6948]

Well for the 1k asking price you can get 2 Microcosm's and money left over :)

[@cardboardmusic]

@@ickebins6948 Indeed, you're right.

[@blindianajones]

I would have loved a "meta" machine or engine that lets you decide what fx to use and for how long or when. For example, have a delay last for a bar or certain number of steps and then have something else fx happening or just off/nothing. I get the Heat as the bus or final processor but without ability to easily have fx coming and going, I dont feel like its a great tool for live performance.

[@milk_bath]

I’d love it if I could route specific tracks from the Digitakt’s USB audio into this.

[@Gruftgrabbler]

Haha the Elektron Overbridge Audio Interface Box with is a USB Host for your Elektron Box and provides up to 8 individual Outputs. On Top of that the Device has an Integrated Analog Heat + FX to apply FX, which you can of cause sequence on a Per Track Base. Can Elektron Build this ? xD

[@syrupcore]

re: clipping indicators... maybe the Flow page could show an exclamation point next to a module that's clipping? Or maybe only the first module that's clipping? Otherwise everything after the offending module would presumably have indicators as well.

[@loopop]

Ideally I'd like to see levels in and out per module (like in Ableton Live) - a module might be adding a ton of gain but yet not entirely causing clipping

[@DP-hw9uq]

It’s insanely expensive for what it is! I suppose is also for the boutique posh look that Elektron wants to keep… but honestly seems like a rip off…

[@AsyncLive]

Well, it is as of now 900 new, so crunchy distortion, modulateable, midi controllable, class compliant card, presets recall, and on top a bunch of effects, analog filters, all of which can be rerouted, dry/wetted, and overbridge. I don’t think it’s a boutique price tbh, sure not your working class pedal, but also way below the pro-gear level of “fuck-you” price.

[@spot1119]

@@AsyncLiveI have a chroma console and it was $400 and this has more and better fx than this does. I don’t think $900 for what you’re getting is unreasonable at all.

[@dualtrx]

Only 2x ins, 2x outs.. no sequencer?... weird combination. the screen looks nice.

[@drk_fi]

What would be a good alternative to this box?

[@EnochDark]

a used scooter

[@nagchumpalot]

No side chain input?

[@vinylselektaz6475]

I need a added sequencer and drum sampler for the price

[@AnotherMachines]

Great!! 🙌

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

15:38 "Automatic gain compensation" the thing we well never have.

[@jimijojimie6321]

For this price how does it fare against the Eventide H90 ?

[@christopherpederson1021]

i would guess the 90 sounds better. never been impressed with elektron sounds

[@Heathcliff_hensel]

Poorly

[@_monoaural1993]

nice! very nice! as always. Thank you for this review & tutorial. So, if i am correct 12:20 shows pretty much the Ableton´s unique effect "fade to grey" ... which is by far on of my favourite fx. awesome!!! I was wondering, how this box compares to the hologram microcosm?!

[@loopop]

Thanks! Microcosm is a very very different beast - there's some overlap, but the two are quite different (Microcosm is more of a granular/microlooper style effect)

[@mmmmigs]

oh cool i didn't need that extra 1k

[@Dougie-]

Everytime i lust for a heat for my digitakt i end up asking myself why would i add this instead of just the one usb cable to my mac and use overbridge. For overbridge devices i cannot find any reason to have this. I have tried to convince myself several times that i need it though 😀, but always end up with the same conclusion

[@jessetoews2446]

Hmm does it take guitar singal? Could be a multi fx pedal

[@willyum3108]

I was wondering too

[@kenzoblytheproducertv4934]

Looks dope but the real question of the hour is,do the Elektron Heat sound better than the Audio Zulu??? I need some answers!!!