Stacey and Janet Clash on Homeschooling Children | Loose Women

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The government has unveiled plans which will document all home educated children on a register. As Stacey homeschools her two sons, she clashes with Janet on whether or not children are missing out on the best possible education and will lack social skills.
From series 22, broadcast on 03/04/2019
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[@nicktdm5703]

Stunning. Just watched this as we embark on homeschooling. The idea that we have to put our kids through distress to harden them up!? Socialisation argument is daft. JSP doesn't even have kids as far as I am aware. The State can't know what is best for everyone surely...

[@hearmeoutbro]

I was bullied at school and it shattered my confidence and gave me immense trust issues. I also know of people of committed suicide because they were bullied so what Janet said was incredibly insensitive.

[@deborahleeming265]

I took my son out of school at 13 he got bullied and suffered anxiety, he's got lots of experience in life and a full time job and loving life!! Best thing I ever did for my child.

[@19rosalie89]

Would love to know more. Mu son is 13 and in year 8. I'm removing him from school and starting homeschooling from January. I've tried to keep him in school but he is behind and his primary school let him down. And from term 2 of year 7 he gets bullied constantly and the school does nothing and always wants witnesses etc and I can't take another day of my son coming out of school in tears and getting emotional at night and in the morning coz he is terrified to go to school. Its causing him anxiety and depression and he needs more 1 to 1 help and I may not be a professor or anything lol but I'm not dumb and we have th Internet

[@deborahleeming265]

@@19rosalie89 thos is exactly what happened to my son !! I went to his school multiple times because of bullying and being ignored!! I decided enough is enough and took him out !! He used to cry and beg me, not to take him to school it was heartbreaking!! He suffers with anxiety still!! he works has a lovley partner and happy 😊 best thing I ever did for my son!! I would recommend home schooling 100% , there not stuck in the system!! Hope it works out for you 🙏 🙂

[@Charlotte-wx4jz]

4 years later and this interview still infuriates me! I don’t have children and never will, but if I did I would 100% home educate! I hated school. I also studied home education at university and found out how beneficial it can be to a child. Janet and the other lady are just full of every cliche going! 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@daryab1285]

Janet St Porter - speaking as a non parent herself!! Saying "who says that a parent knows best?" Absolute clown!!

[@Baba-so6fh]

I see many school kids nowadays, younger and younger I see these kids act like wannabe gangsters using vile languge and high on sugary drinks and generally acting in very questionable ways. I also see bullying is rife in schools. I fully understand why more and more people do not want to send their children to establishments that foster this type of thing and clearly can't control it.

[@billwheeler3265]

I have just been told that my step grandson want to home school with his wife. I am so pleased they want to do this and my wife and I will assist them in any way we can.Both their parents are very bright and will give them a great education. I am all for it.

[@UU-vl2kn]

Janet you are anything but a rounded person 😂 . Experience of love , attention and care is prepping your child correctly. Not make them face bullies, hate , no love & no care

[@raes8520]

I see this argument all the time that families pulling their kids out of schools to homeschool them hurts the schools. It leaves the lesser performing students in the schools, it takes funding away from the schools, etc. It is not my responsibility to worry about how a school will perform or be funded without my kid. I do not have to sacrifice my child for a school or other children.

[@sophieclarke7107]

too right!!! Public school advocates always like to slam home-education parents as caring too much about their kids. lol. as if that could ever be a thing? They can say we're wrapping our kids in cotton wool, pandering to them, blah blah, all they like. I will never ever ever ever ever apologise for putting my kids needs first and soaking up every last second I get with them before they get a job or go to university and leave the home.

[@ohwellwhateverr]

Janet is living in a fantasy world. Parents know best. We should not be palming off our kids to the state, especially when our system is so riddled with ideological agendas.

[@andybray9791]

It’s been happening since lgbt… indoctrination, rse since 2019/20 etc

[@kaname1994n1]

We weren’t given any course or qualification to raise our kids from birth or any help from the council or government. But when we decide we want to home educate, all of a sudden they are worried and think we’re not looking at our kids best interest.

[@KO-hf6bl]

Sadly - some parents really don't know best. Ask any social worker or teacher out there. I have seen so many children be at best, disadvantaged and at worst, damaged by clueless, neglectful, or sadly self absorbed and cruel parents. I love home education. But parents don't always know best. I wish they did!

[@TW-dj5zq]

JSP demonstrating her ignorance on this matter. Stacey is bang on. More power to you girl!

[@LeyasLife]

The only problem I have is abusive parents taking their kids out of school (the eyes and ears) so they won’t be found out.

[@jenniferjenkins9194]

Stacey Solomon for Prime Minister ❤ intelligent, in touch, excellent communicator ❤

[@amygarvey4348]

Ive just decided to home school after 2 year of fighting the system and a anxious ridden child. Wish me luck 🙈

[@willcampbell8829]

JSP is a lunatic if she thinks parents should sacrifice their kids by sending them to garbage schools if they can afford alternative education.....She's beyond clueless on this matter.

[@KellyLeAnne]

It’s wild how some of the most ignorant people speak with the loudest voices and confidence.

[@commanderozbrek6011]

Schools today are too large, anonymous and overwhelming for some youngsters. Discipline is often slack, minor bullying is ignored and injustices go unaddressed to the despair of the better behaved, quieter or less-confident child. My oldest girl, sometimes, simply could not face the uncontrolled, noisy rabble at her school. I would let her have a quiet day at home. It kept her sane and she went on, confidently, to university.

[@raes8520]

And I get sick of people asking parents if they will send their homeschool kid to public high school. I see this all the time. The thing is that most homeschoolers are far ahead of their public school peers. So if you homeschool a kid from 7-14 and then stick them in a public school chances are that kid has already learned what the high school can offer. So it is pointless. Unless you think going to a prom is worth 4 years of not learning anything new.

[@sadiesearjeant5741]

Janet is one of the exact reasons you should pull your children out of school. She probably was the bully type herself, hence why she won't listen to other points of view and interrupt people constantly... such a lovely well rounded individual. I used to beg to get out of school and be home-schooled. I was an anxious mess, and this super stunted my development in social settings and academically. I will only be homeschooling my children when they need to, ie. the school is too slow for them, they need a confidence boosts or they are getting bullied.

[@CB394]

I wish it had been possible for me to be home-educated. My mother was a single parent though, so it wasn't possible. The biggest problem in the UK is that children with S.E.N.D/A.S.f.L.N are being FAILED because there are not enough appropriate placements for such children and we are going backwards.

[@paramedicchrisbookseries]

This is really interesting, thank you for sharing.

[@GarethEves]

Ive had to home educate my autistic child has complex disabilities who has a idp and the local authority have failed my childs additional learning needs massively and they won't put her in a special needs school i had no choice to homd school her as the the school my daughter was in the teacher told me on the phone she didn't my childs conditions

[@BecciBex]

Same with my autistic son also. Extremely complex special needs, he’s just started year 6 and still goes to a regular primary school but he would absolutely not benefit in anyway going to a mainstream secondary school so we’ve made the decision to educate him at home. He was failed by the system because he can’t get into the special needs school without an EHCP but the local authority declined him despite his needs. His SENCo was absolutely disgusted that they declined too. I am a firm believer in everything happens for a reason and I truly believe home education will be the best thing for him.

[@doulaamy9240]

Amazing that Janet thinks that the trauma bond of all having the same terrible teacher is a pro of going to school. I'm sure all of us who went to school can relate to what she's saying but it's easy to see that it would be much better to not have had the terrible teacher in the first place, no?

[@Sanrio-s5r]

So many points given against home education come from the view point that school is a guaranteed way to get a good education, and that is just not the case for so many children. The school is a rigid system that can only bend so far with the resources it has. I have seen it from the point of view as a teacher and now as a parent to two children with additional learning needs. The system does not work and there is no alternative provision available for many children who are waiting for an EHCP or whose councils won't grant them (postcode lottery!). Why should those children be forced to stay somewhere that won't support their way of learning in hopes of parents banding together to change the system. Janet clearly has never spoken to any parent of a SEN child, most could not do anymore to fight to change the system for their child! Maybe if more people Electively Home Educate, the government will have no choice but to re-evaluate the education system because schools will no longer be able to cling on to their SEN children who they get extra funding for which will then impact the NT children, that's when things may actually change! Children's mental health rates are sky rocketing. Teachers are not staying in the profession, and they continue to tighten the criteria for EHCPs and special school entry. Janet needs to have some home education of her own, because school clearly didn't teach her not to judge the things you have absolutely no knowledge or experience on!

[@MaryGoulding]

Here in the US, homeschooled childen are far advanced. Also, parents who home school here create co-ops and rotate teachers sometimes. You're better at teaching Math? Great. You teach your children and someone else's children math. That other parent is much better teaching literature. In the state where I live, you are required to follow a curriculum. They do get to choose the curruculum but they have to report to the local school what curriculum they are teaching.

[@kirstyjayne12]

Everything Janet said to Stacey was hateful experiences, and somehow kids need to experience that to thrive?!

[@crazycatpetera1404]

Janet’s talking sense, whilst home-schooling may be more beneficial for some children.. it’s not often the case and the level of commitment and intellect you need to educate a child into adulthood is quite rare. I have good friends who were home-schooled and they’re extremely anti-social as adults because they haven’t developed their social skills.

[@kaname1994n1]

The opportunity we get in this day and age is vast compared to what parents had back in your time. So if your friends are anti-social, it may be because they didn’t get as much opportunity going to clubs, activity centre as there are now. I don’t now if your judging home education based on just your friends but if you look at home educators on youtube, you’ll see they have a lot of social activity with the friends they meet at clubs. I have a friend who home educates her 9 year old and i was half expecting the child to shy away from me when I approached her. But I was shocked and impressed by how confident and bright she was, we ended up talking for half an hour.

[@guyroyle2803]

Janet is so annoying.. she argues her point and when that doesn't work .. she uses gaslighting to try and trigger the other person ..

[@fionay2014]

Oh wow is stacey still homeschooling. This janet lady is so rude and condescending. "Stick kids in a room"??? It takes more effort to develop an appropriate home schooling plan under all this scrutiny than drop of and pick up to a classroom. Janet you are anything but rounded.

[@sashsash6679]

Janet does not know enough on the topic

[@andybray9791]

CitizenGO should be in schools etc not “educate and celebrate”

[@lisapettitt3400]

I took my children out because our school is failing my children ,the rules , are ina appropriate and against natural behaviour , we do trips and learn about more things about life x

[@Alionraw]

The majority of adults today suffer from mental health issues, trauma and are by NO means well rounded. Take a look around you. The ones who present as they do are often in therapy behind closed doors or should be. Weak argument, sorry.

[@strawman3059]

This is a 'scripted' argument people 🤔