Loot from one of my best scrapyard trips!

[@inatorpiggies1560]

i wish i had a scrapyard like that near me...

[@SirotkaSlo]

I have them...but they don't allow me to take anything, it ALL goes to trash :/

[@pc-sound-legacy]

​@@SirotkaSlothey calculate with the money for the metals that's why I guess

[@bitsundbolts]

That's sad. I'm not sure why though. Maybe they don't want to have people going through their stuff, legal reasons or similar. It's still a shame though 😕 maybe time to get a part time job at one of those scrapyards 😉

[@DxDeksor]

@@pc-sound-legacy true, but they could also just let you pay for what you pickup based on weight. I wouldn't mind that, just let me take it 😭

[@deschoee]

I was told that here in switzerland, things in the scrapyard belong to the original owner, and that's why i can't even BUY stuff on a scrapyard. It's sad to think about all the sweet stuff that gets shredded every day.

[@Aeduo]

Kinda like this casual approach where you sound comfortable and not like you're having to put on a show.

[@bitsundbolts]

I'll try to continue in this direction. Making videos is a lot harder than I thought 😅

[@MarkTheMorose]

Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing the Socket 7 board. With one of the S3 video cards, 8MB of RAM, and a Pentium 75 it would re-create my first PC. Brings back happy memories of Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, and Little Big Adventure.

[@bitsundbolts]

I did get a Pentium 75 the other day. Well, I guess I'll be recreating your old PC very soon! Do you remember what S3 video card you had? Trio64 or was it a newer model?

[@MarkTheMorose]

@@bitsundbolts It was a Diamond Stealth 64, PCI. I think that makes it the Trio 64 chip. (I think the same graphics core remains as the 2D side of the Virge cards, so that would work also.) The PC also had a Soundblaster 16. I got the PC bundle from Evesham Micros, who a few years earlier were suppliers of Commodore 64 hardware and software.

[@damienpayne]

I would actually like a video on the Socket 7 board.. 😆

[@bitsundbolts]

Haha, ok :) I just need to make sure to fix the boards with the battery damage first.

[@AladimBR]

Matsushita (SCSI CD writer) is Panasonic. It should work, I have Toshiba CD/DVD drives from this time still working. Japanese drives normally don’t have belts, which really helps to have a longer life….. but plastic gears might become brittle and break. I had a SCSI cd burner exactly for the reason you mentioned: buffer underrun…. A blank cd costed $15 back in those days and Windows was not good at multitasking, leading to wasted disks. I don’t have the drive anymore, but kept the SCSi controller (adaptec 2940w if I recall correctly).

[@seritools]

That scrapyard literally seems like a dream place, I wish anything remotely close would be available here

[@bitsundbolts]

It is an adventure every time I go there! But there were also days when I didn't get anything of interest

[@mikes989]

@@bitsundbolts exactly. is the same when I go to a recycling center in my city. it become one of my favorite places in the country, lol

[@michaelturner2806]

Indeed, the only ewaste center close to my city only sells tested newer stuff in a showroom. No digging through bins or piles. The one unfriendly guy they stuck up front seems to be under the impression it was illegal to resell anything old, like AGP or PCI cards.

[@bitsundbolts]

:( why the discrimination against old and vintage hardware 🤷

[@LetsPlayKeldeo]

Tbh I enjoy all your repairs no matter what type of board seeing retro hardware saved is my mission

[@Skracken]

Great finds! The wife would kill me if I dragged home more of what she calls "old junk that will clutter the house"!

[@bitsundbolts]

I had some explaining to do 😅

[@masejoer]

Eh, this stuff is what got me into the career I'm in, and it's the reason we have the home we have today. A lot of this will be much harder to find 20 years from now, to play with in old age, so some small amount of hoarding is acceptable imo ;) The trick is to draw the line so you don't feel burdened, or have things that you will never use, even as a spare. That said, having some extras for preservation to give or sell to other people who may want them in that future wouldn't be terrible either, but that's best left to someone who has some shop/warehouse space. Inventory tracking would be a must though. It's too bad, but most of this stuff does need to be scrapped as there aren't enough people would will want them, ever. Hard drives, top end motherboards and addons cards, certain RAM sticks and CPUs, branded coolers, etc should remain desirable.

[@MIJ-Tech]

The 386/486 board was most interesting to me. I'm a sucker for crossovers and hybrids.

[@markgomersbach9265]

Miss the old scrap yards in the Netherlands, they made it highly illegal to reuse anything from a scrapyardgabrage, to "protect the public", the truth is obviously to force us to buy new things all the time. But I wish I could go back to those times, nice chat with the terrain supervisor, rummaging through old stuff, find gold. Good times.

[@bitsundbolts]

It's still good here! And will cherish each and every adventure going there!

[@markgomersbach9265]

@@bitsundbolts *insert "I should move to Germany" meme*

[@bitsundbolts]

Just to avoid any kind of confusion: I have lived in the United Arab Emirates for almost 20 years now. There is no way I will go back to Germany 😅

[@mikes989]

I have been salvaging some things from a scrapyard in my city. I am looking for some things of importance in the technological history of my country, that may still exist somewhere and is being discarded, but I take everything interesting and useful, which is sometimes 0.01% of what I see in the place. I agreed with the director there that I would take him everything I found of recyclable materials if he allowed me to dig through the piles of electronic garbage once a month, before they took it away. So on each trip I compensated them by taking them between 10 and 50 kilograms of aluminum, copper, glass, plastics, and many modern electronic wastes that I am not interested in. I only collected, at most, 5 Kg, only once almost 10KG (I filled a full bag with packages with IC from the 70s and 80s, from TI made to Soviet made), but sometimes I found nothing. I should also agree with the higher recycling management to do the same in another recycling center on the other side of the city. so, its a win-win all I take home I washed it, deep cleaned, check in detail, get any info about it and put in the queue to test and/or repair.

[@markgomersbach9265]

@@bitsundbolts right, I think you mentioned it in your videos at some point as well, while ordering stuff if I remember correctly. Anyway, I'm very much jealous :P

[@renesantosbr]

I started sneezing like when I clean my PCs 😆

[@bitsundbolts]

I don't want the entire desert in my apartment. Most of those things are going to be cleaned under running water! 😅

[@AntoineWG]

I wish my job was this clean! Working in ceilings sucks!

[@TorRaswill]

Your happiness in finding a 5.25” floppy drive makes me just as happy. You can feel it through the screen! Thanks for a great video, looking forward to seeing all the follow-up videos :)

[@bitsundbolts]

Thank you!

[@mattelder1971]

Yes, those extended sockets are VLB. Very nice to see one with three of them. Most motherboards from that time that I remember only had one or two.

[@T3hBeowulf]

8:49 - ESS Audiodrive cards are wonderful DOS cards. Decent OPL3-emulation, clean MIDI wavetable interface, extremely simple to set up via Unisound or ESS drivers. - 1868F is up to 48Khz/16bit - 1869F is identical to the 1868F but adds optional Sensura 3d sound support. (meh...) Great haul!

[@bitsundbolts]

Ah nice. So essentially, they are quite similar cards. Although I have never heard of "Sensura 3D sound", I have a feeling that it's not going to be a life changing experience - as you mentioned in your comment.

[@T3hBeowulf]

@@bitsundbolts Well, phooey. I misremembered the "3D sound" tech on the ESS 1869F. That apparently uses "Spatializer® 3-D VBX™ stereo audio effects technology", which is sort of a parlor trick for widening the sound stage. It was pretty underwhelming, IMHO. Sensuara 3D would have been much better if it had that as it provided positional multi-channel sound as a hardware accelerated enhancement, similar to EAX but the ESS 1869F predates that technology by several years.

[@lindoran]

I'm kind of excited about that 386/486 board

[@bitsundbolts]

Me too!

[@lindoran]

@@bitsundbolts the extra expansion slot do you know what it is for yet?

[@bitsundbolts]

Chances are it's an EISA or some proprietary OPTi expansion slot. But it's probably EISA. I heard it's almost impossible to find expansion cards that fit in that slot.

[@lindoran]

@@bitsundbolts I guess there's a mach32 in. Eisa form factor

[@jonchapman6821]

@@bitsundboltsI’ve got one or two cards, but never found a board to put them on 😆 Anything EISA is just so rare.

[@Pickle136]

i have that socket 2 486 VLB board and i like it. I have mine with a amd dx4 running as a 5x86 133, 1 mb cache, cirrus logc vlb. Mine has the coin cell as well. The 386/486 I think is the most interesting to restore. Feels great when you have these moments and find such a stash. Thanks for sharing.

[@bitsundbolts]

I like the 386/486 board as well. It's interesting that they made that choice to have two sockets on the board. The board should also support the 387 FPU, but that one goes into the 486 socket once a 386 is installed. But I also like the green 386 board. I'm looking forward to trying the Texas Instruments 486/386 port.

[@yanndiy]

The tone of your voice is so much more normal and nicer in this video.

[@DeeDeeKL]

Matsushita, also known as Panasonic :-D

[@bitsundbolts]

Nice! I didn't know that!

[@ChrisSTARS2407]

Or National. Or Technics.

[@SergiuszRoszczyk]

It took me ages to figure out that to install WindowsNT 3.1 I had to load Matsushita driver, when I had a Panasonic 2X non-IDE drive. Since then I know it is the same company ;)

[@bluethunder8383]

The socket 2 mother board looks the most interesting, I’m a sucker for socket 7 boards so it’s nice to see, I look forward to your videos every Friday 👍

[@semloh1870]

That socket 7 board is a Lucky Star 5I-TX1. I have one. It's very ordinary- dull. Mine is very picky with RAM so it's a pain.

[@sparki_]

wow what a nice haul! i hope every retro enthusiast finds a scrapyard like that near them lol it's like paradise

[@rtstaley]

Nice finds. Important note about the TI 386 to 486 chip. There is a utility that is used to enable the cache on the chip. Makes a pretty good difference in performance. There is only one utility that can see the 1k cache, but I can't recall which one. (Cache check can't see it) If you want I can try and get you the info.

[@lexluthermiester]

@BitsUndBolts Wow! Great finds! I like that Socket 7 board! The TI486 board is very interesting though. Good stuff! You got a great haul! Looking forward to the vids!

[@tony359]

The TEAC IC on the sound card is the same which shorted on my Sound Blaster! I like the 386/486 board, I think I saw a similar one before on Necroware's? "Hi, I was following the noise of a drill, do you happen to have a pile of old vintage computers I can check?" "Yeah, that way". We all need a scrapyard in our lives :)

[@bitsundbolts]

Finding that pile was complete luck! I wasn't supposed to be there on a public holiday 😅.

[@jamesgrossmann866]

Upgraded my first computer from a 286 to a 386dx/dxl 40 like the one you showed (still have it in a box in the basement...I should delete the battery!). In college, other than the college itself, I was the first one with a cd writer... I bought a used HP 6200 off of Ebay. Kinda memory lane for me on this. I long ago lost my 1gb scsi full height drive I bought to add to my 200mb drive I used in the same computer as the 6200... Computers have moved SO Far since then!

[@jamesrdgrs]

Got to love some sweet scrap yard loot!

[@LetsPlayKeldeo]

I really like your "normal" voice a lot more than your "voiceover" one

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

0:11 I can relate with the high temperatures. But I don't drive. I carry parts on the bus lmao.

[@VladoT]

Fun fact: Goldstar has become LG soon after introducing that Super IO chip.

[@3dfxvoodoocards6]

The SS7 motherboard and P233 MMX are the most interesting, in my opinion.

[@bitsundbolts]

:) Good to know! The board is in good condition and no battery damage that needs to be fixed. That is one of the major reasons I want to work on the 386 boards first.

[@senilyDeluxe]

Oooh those Realtek SVGA cards... it took me several years until I found working drivers! I once had 4 of them (gave away two PCs that had them built in, they all came with 1MB VRAM installed, without drivers, 256k is the limit)

[@kokodin5895]

don't worry about ess discoloration, that just build in audio amplifier for passive speakers, you can disable it with jumpers if it doesn't work or if you want to use regular speakers/headphones

[@bitsundbolts]

I think I also read about something similar on early Soundblaster cards. Could it be that those audio amplifiers introduced some noise in the output?

[@kokodin5895]

@@bitsundbolts not really the worry you had back then but they didn't like potentiometers cranked below 8 ohms on the output and some people just used regular speakers with the audio amp in line and when they made speakers quiet shorting output to ground those ic's cooked a bit the ded givaway should be tea/tda prefix on the chip and 4 inner legs all connected to ground

[@atheatos]

Love both these 386 Boards. The Opti 386/486 more :3

[@mikes989]

LOL, a few days ago I found exactly that same socket to slot adapter lying on the street. It was near a trash dump, so it was probably from some PII PC that got thrown away (sniff). The pins were pretty rusty but I polished them. It's a shame that the only PII motherboard I have has problems, I have it in line to be repaired, if I can. and that '94 Seagate drive is related to the oldest HDD I have, which is just the first one I had, the 150MB model. A year ago I wanted to try it after almost 20 years of not using it, and after a while of working one of the SMD capacitors blew. I changed it for a new one and the HDD is still working.

[@nickwallette6201]

That HP CD-RW is most likely a Philips drive under the hood. I have a couple different Philips OEM HP drives -- an earlier 2x1x6 and a couple 4x4x24. Philips also made the Creative Labs Hex Speed CD-ROM that I had back in the day. There was an 8x version, too, but there were Philips and Goldstar variants of that one.

[@pjm780]

That oddball slot on that board that takes either a 386 or 486 looks like an EISA slot.

[@M_McFly]

Phyiscally EISA, but electrically it's Opti Local Bus. Putting EISA/OLB cards in the wrong slot will make a nice smoky special effect.

[@DeveloperAccount-m5i]

Have the exact same Teac floppy drive, it is great 1.2 MB floppy drive which good compatibility, never had any issues.

[@bitsundbolts]

I just need to clean it. Any tips on how to maintain such a drive and get rid of the dust?

[@DeveloperAccount-m5i]

@@bitsundbolts Never had to clean it in depth, just used a cleaning disk back then but i think cleaning it up with a brush and q-tip, cleaning the heads with alcohol and lubricate the gears should do the trick

[@kunka592]

The motherboards are exciting but I also am interested to see if any drives work, especially after all the previous disappointments with broken drives.

[@bitsundbolts]

Those drives will surprise you! The ones I tested so far are all working!

[@damianblanchard6700]

The socket 2 board.... The extensions to the ISA slots are VESA extensions....32bit data bus. The cards would slot into the ISA and VESA slots.

[@PROSTO4Tabal]

Scrap yard is like gold mine lol. Nice findings, sad you couldn't take all those retro beige computers. Next time make some space in your car for them :)

[@bitsundbolts]

I should have taken one of the cases... I am sure there will be some in the future - lesson learned.

[@Beerfloat]

I find these dual 386/486 boards kinda fascinating so that would be my fave. Curious about the bottom slot which looks like it might be an EISA slot, or someone just used the connector. And you could also run the Ti486DLC in that board so that'd cover it all. There are also 386/486 boards out there with VL-bus, which lifts a major bottleneck for the 486, and even 386 class CPUs benefit a little, so those are even more fun!

[@aliencray7269]

Those dual boards are very interesting, and its time to look for vlb (easy part) and eisa (realy hard to find, may be network or scsi controller) cards

[@bitsundbolts]

Indo have some VLB graphic cards - I think I even have an I/O controller. But I have never seen something for eisa

[@ChrisSTARS2407]

@@bitsundbolts you need some old servers teardown in order to have some EISA boards

[@pavelfara9333]

Sad you were not able to get the cases. I have a crapload of baords and everything but it is so hard to get a period correct case in a decent condition!! I know it takes a lot of space 😔

[@bitsundbolts]

To be honest, most had dented and scratched surfaces. Maybe two would have been worth saving. I'm sure I'll come across cases again.

[@sandmanxo]

Wow some of these bring back memories. My first dos pc in 1993 had a 130mb Conner hard drive and looked somewhat similar to what you picked up. I still have it but haven't powered it up in decades, but I remember the performance was awful. I last used it probably in the late 90s for storage under Linux. I also never had seen Socket 2 before, that's an incredible find.

[@bitsundbolts]

Good news 😀 my Conner drive works! I agree, I got quite lucky to find all those nice things in one day at the scrapyard. I'm looking forward to experimenting with this old hardware - especially the socket 2 board!

[@mesterak]

The socket 2 board will be nice to see restored!

[@NeoAF10]

22:58 I'm a 100% with you on this one! I wished I knew about hard drives not being 100% reliable and backups, back then.... : (

[@bitsundbolts]

I think I had two Maxtor drives - and they died within two years. I didn't have any valuable data on them, maybe some game saves, but nothing tragic!

[@AndyBrearley]

I had that HP optical drive - I had a lot of issues with mine - more coasters than successful burns at a time when the blank media was quite expensive. I think it lacked any internal buffer on the drive so would fail the burn quickly if the PC couldn’t feed it fast enough. Still an interesting bit of history, I was however pleased to get rid of it, the technology was moving quickly at that time so was completely outdated within a couple of years.

[@bakkus82]

Oh wow, I had that exact Socket 2 board! Mine was rocking a 486 DX33. It was a noticable upgrade from my 486 SX25

[@bitsundbolts]

I really like this board - it looks solid! I think it has a few surprises as well. Can't wait to dig out the manual and learn more about it!

[@UpLateGeek]

I'm interested to see a video about that TI 486DLC. I bought one ages ago thinking it was a 486 chip, but I never got around to trying it in my 386 boards because for some reason neither of the two that I've got seem to work even though they look like they're in good condition. (I assume it's just some incorrect jumper setting, but I've never had the time to really look into it.)

[@metalworksmachineshop]

I love the scrapyard find videos. I started watching your channel because of the slot1 boards . I'd love to have a 486 system, but they are rare around me. I play with socket7 and slot1 boards. Even finding an older socket7 board is hard. Mine are super socket 7.

[@bitsundbolts]

I'll try to make more videos from the actual scrapyard. And you are right, those older boards get more and more expensive

[@harvaldi]

I have also 486, but not a lot isa cards. I don't have any 386 or 286. My oldest parts are: CPU 8086 AMD clone, hercules monitor with graphics card and fully working 80mb hdd.

[@nickwallette6201]

Flipping the card upside down with PCI and AGP seemed like a benefit at the time, to prevent dust from collecting on the components. But, that was just the beginning of graphics cards that started to get warm, and then needed a heatsink, and then a fan, and then their own power input, and then water cooling... Would've been better if they had just left well enough alone, but live and learn I guess.

[@AntoineWG]

I have that exact Matrox G100A card out of an HP Vectra VE6/350.

[@ScottyBrockway]

Speaking of Plextor's... still have all mine, best drives, especially for preservation.

[@bitsundbolts]

I also still have mine, but it's in Germany. I did find a PC here with two Plexor drives. I tested one already, but it seems to no longer be able to burn CDs successfully anymore even though I cleaned the lens. Maybe I need to try another brand of CD-R

[@Hadisabetghadam]

48:57 Panasonic Drive

[@SireSquish]

That slot on the 386/486 board looks like a proprietary ISA riser socket.

[@harvaldi]

That was my guess too.

[@bitsundbolts]

After cleaning the board, I can read "EISABus" on one side of the socket.

[@sapperlott]

EISA would have been my guess as well. The time when ISA wasn't good enough anymore and PCI wasn't out yet was a bit like the wild west. IBM had their proprietary MCA bus and on the "open" side you had stuff like EISA and VLB.

[@atheatos]

Nice board, Jealous here. THIS IS NOT AN EISA slot. This is an Opti Bus slot (same connector as EISA, different electrical). If you plug a EISA card there you will burn it. There are specific card for Opti Bus. There is a VGA I have this. Basically Opti Bus is and ISA VLB combo.

[@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse]

I have a few of those adapter cards for some slot system that I was planning on sending you, but I can't find them right now! Chaos it's letting me look for them.

[@Ale.K7]

Great haul! Yes, the Socket 2 mainboard is VLB! At first I thought the brown slot on the 386/486 board was EISA, but it seemed strange to me that the rest of the slots were standard ISA... So I googled and it apparently is OPTi Local Bus, physically similar but electrically incompatible (!!) to an EISA slot. Very interesting, I had never heard of it before! ...so perhaps it's a good idea to check that the slots on the Socket 2 board are actually VLB before installing something :P. The possibly burnt chip on the soundcard is the amplifier to drive passive speakers and can be disabled with jumpers (and should be easy to source a replacement). The slightly toasted 486 probably works. It wasn't uncommon for system builders where I live to not pay attention to the "heatsink/fan required" warning and I have seen 486s looking like that working perfectly. What interested me the most is the 486DLC, with the OPTi Local Bus board as a close second (it would be first place if you had a card for it) and the VLB board third.

[@mikes989]

the "EISA" motherboard are one of these JETPRO INFOTECH COMPANY, LTD. MB-4F2

[@leadbutthead]

the proprietary local bus slot was briefly "a thing" before VLB became popular. those types of board were generally sold with a video card or video-multi I/O card that only works with that slot (typically ET4000 video chip). it's a crying shame that the video card and motherboard are frequently separated (and somewhere someone plugged that video card into an EISA motherboard and is immediately privileged to witness magic smoke escaping.)

[@Toby_Q]

I have an OPTI-Local bus video card, still waiting to find an OPTI-local bus motherboard here in the states!

[@jeffm2787]

Kind of like the '486' Texas Instruments based board. Not sure why, just different I guess.

[@DefenderOfBoston-yo2tl]

Man, just one great day like that would be all I need to permanently take care of all my retro-hardware cravings - just a 486 DX4 and a Voodoo 2 to reasonably complete my collection and I would be done with it - at least that's what I keep telling myself. I'd thus be most interested to see more of the 486 board. Not at all interested in the hard drives, except for a bit of acoustic nostalgia. Don't torture yourself with that junk. I am SO glad they are almost completely gone except for high capacity use cases and will never look back once they're gone completely. They are nothing but trouble and their lack of reliability has been plaguing me my whole life, both privately and professionally. SSDs aren't bulletproof either (especially the first few generations were quite prone to nasty software errors), but overall they're just soooo much more reliable.

[@envoycdx]

VLB 486, Socket 7, 386 board with the DLC, then repair the 486 boards :)

[@jonchapman6821]

46:35 I think you underestimate your subscribers. At this point, if we’re subscribed to your channel, we will happily watch you repair pretty much anything. We absolutely want to see the socket 7 board.

[@bitsundbolts]

Thanks 🙏 I will have all of the boards appear in videos. Plus, I learn a lot from the comments everyone posts! It's developing into a nice community - I am blessed with so many like-minded people here!

[@MonochromeWench]

Solder on the Battery melting easily is a good sign it hasn't been leaking for long. 386 Board with the 486DLC looks like an easy fix. 486 boards with VLB slots having no on board io is not unexpected as back in the day you'd have the option of a high speed VLB IO controller or an ISA one if you were cheap

[@mikes989]

My second 486 was a VLB. But man, I had some huge problems with bad contacts on the disk and ports controller cards . I still have the motherboard, vlb video card and that controller card, but I need to repair it. After 20+ years of not using it, it just refuses to boot.

[@zorrzdxqwetti6482]

У меня дома в Москве, тоже много подобных железяк, все еще собираюсь снять про них своё видео😊

[@abdulazizaltalhi7866]

You have a paradise junk yard wow! ...... the old computer cases how did you leave them there ?

[@bitsundbolts]

It is quite the place! I should have taken at least one of the cases. However, they do pop up here and there.

[@pc-sound-legacy]

The VLB Mainboard and the Realtek VGA is a great find👍 Also the 5 1/4 Floppy. The S3 card has SGRam wich I like as most came with Dram. Are you allowed to take parts from the scrapyard? In my area (northern germany) it is stealing and the staff keep a close eye on you if you "behave suspicious"😂 They also are not allowed to sell stuff as they said to me. Too bad as I have seen nice parts at the yard many times.

[@bravo1111]

Ich mach das immer so, ich nehme einen kleinen flachen Karton mit kaputtem Zeug, das bringe ich weg. Wenn ich dann noch was handliches finde, (Grakas, CPUs, RAMs) wandert das wieder in den leeren Karton, den ich mit zum Auto nehme😁😉

[@bitsundbolts]

It's really sad that those places have such a policy. It is very different here. It's not one company running the scrapyard. There are individual businesses that deal with scrap. Once you make friends, it's all good. For me, it is a nice activity and adventure going there - almost every Sunday 😁

[@kurthectic2902]

I like socket7 boards, my first PC was a socket 7 with Pentium 133 but a 486 with 128MB seems more fun and have my attention.

[@totallyuselessvideoz]

11:15 these are 32 bits VESA local bus slots (the predecessor of PCI) the MB is from BEK-tronic model BEK-V429S

[@ErazerPT]

Eehhehh, this video is exactly what my "junk bin" at work back some 30y ago would have in. Dear god, i had a HUGE box of just those expansion cards, most with Goldstar chips, that sorta kept "piling up" as people upgraded from 468's to Pentium's. I was an Amiga guy back then, but the shop sold both Amiga and PC's. First gfx card (and my fist overclock...) was also a Trio64+ on a hand-me-down P133 (that also got OC'ed), eventually upgraded to a 300A+Trio3D (because i couldn't afford a "real" 3d card) And both got OC'ed of course... Guess i was born on the dark side of the force :D

[@Ironclad17]

36:00 I think those were for a L2 cache module.

[@krizator]

Cool stuff 😊

[@naturelmania]

Wonderful collection there, I wish we can see some cleaning videos too. Have you tried washing them in dishwasher?

[@bitsundbolts]

My wife would have questions I'd use the dishwasher for cleaning those items. I usually just use soap and running water. The result is quite good. I cleaned most of the items already. The floppy drive is still dusty and might be worth recording.

[@Dungeonseeker1uk]

There is absolutely something special about the S3 Trios, its just about the only card that has good working hardware support on really old versions of XF86 on Linux. All the other accelerated servers have some kind of issue that makes them annoying to use or even totally unusable. If you messing around with any pre 2.6 Kernel Linux stuff, they're the perfect card.

[@bitsundbolts]

Although I don't have much experience with Linux, that's good to know 🙂. I always liked my Trio64V+

[@jr0th]

11:35 spot on, its VLB (confirmed by the MASTER and SLAVE silkscreen). You may get graphics and I/O cards using VLB, quite uncommon but not that rare. 36:20 looks like an EISA port to me (32 bit ISA port, compatible with 8, 16 bits and 32 bits cards). Pretty unusual, and not many cards to use it at it's full potential.

[@Mini-z1994]

I found a 16 mb STB Voodoo 3 3000 agp tv at the recycling center this previous Tuesday in the electronics container. Didn't think I'd ever come across any voodoo card in my recycling center visits with how rare & more popular the cards have gotten. So far I've only tested it into the bios screen on a slot 1 motherboard here. As i previously moved that ide hdd with xp on it to my new agp test bench with an asrock 4core dual sata & core 2 duo e7400, which i also found at the recycling center. The computer i grabbed it from was on a trailer & i asked the guy as he was unloading some other trash to be tossed away. If i could grab that graphics card, he didn't mind at all as long as i tossed away the pc properly. (Was a generic slot 1 motherboard which didn't look like much at the time but i can take a look tomorrow if it's anything worth grabbing.) Also grabbed a Asus P2B a few weeks before this find which also works with a pentium II 450 mhz so now i have 1x passive & 1x actively cooled that's super noisy, seriously this fan is like a 60 mm 4000 rpm hairdrier.

[@bitsundbolts]

Congratulations! Yes, finding a 3dfx card is quite rare. I also found a Voodoo 3 once and a Voodoo 2 which needs some fixes. Congratulations to you for finding such nice retro gear!

[@BeniD82]

You can definitely tell you're in the Middle East, all the fine yellow dust, quite hilarious. Must be better on hardware than say soggy basement mildew or attic funk so I'd definitely take dust over that :) Quite a nice haul!

[@bitsundbolts]

Oh, definitely! That dust comes nicely off under running water with little effort

[@arnlol]

Well that’s a nice haul you brought back. I don’t think it’s a surprise if I say I want to see the hard drives being tested ahah but that dual 386/486 board sure is really interesting.

[@bitsundbolts]

I couldn't resist and tested the drives already. The result? Very unusual! All of them seem to work! Turns out, that stack of PCs is from one company. I guess they stored those PCs for 30 years and decided to throw them out now - of course, with all the data on it. Last entry in the DOS accounting software was in 1994 😅

[@arnlol]

@@bitsundboltsOh that’s nice! Yeah it seems like many people don’t really care about their data for some reason, although stuff from the 90s probably doesn’t matter too much at least.

[@bitsundbolts]

That's true. But I found out what the company is, they still exist today. And, it has personal details, phone numbers and addresses of people.

[@CaptainShiny5000]

Neat! Although I actually do find Socket 7 boards kinda interesting cause the very first PC I owned myself (if you don't count my Commodore C128) was an AMD K6 200 on a socket 7 board.

[@mndx89]

I’m really interested in the intel tx socket 7 board. That chipset is a good choice in terms of performance and number of integrated peripherals. The socket 2 it’s interesting too!

[@M_McFly]

This unlocked a memory of my Asus TX97-E I would have had around 1998. 512KB pipeline burst cache on board - crazy times!

[@chris-tal]

That socket2 board closely resembles the jetway-j-403tg-v1.0 board of which I happen to own a v2.0 version (except it's socket3 but same chipset from the looks of it).

[@chris-tal]

I also happen to have a same kind of that Matsushita 4x SCSI CD-R writer. I used it to slowly burn audio CDs for old CD players around 2010, but of course it's much older. It doesn't have buffer underrun protection yet so be careful. If I remember correctly the fan only spins while burning discs to cool the laser I guess. :) SCSI buses needs termination. In the case of those old small capacity Seagate drives make sure you check the jumpers for a 16-bit AT/8-bit XT one. If they don't work at first but they sound like they should be, they might have been used in machines with an 8-bit IDE bus.

[@bitsundbolts]

Thanks for all this information! So, this socket 2 board is weird. I haven't looked at it in detail, but I think it supports 3.3 volt CPUs. Wasn't that something that came around with socket 3? Did they maybe have a lot of socket 2 sockets and just used those for their socket 3 boards instead of replacing them with the proper socket type? I'll definitely have to find out more about this board.

[@chris-tal]

@@bitsundbolts I have no idea about socket2, but I had to voltmod (find and populate a missing LDO, resistors and jumpers) my socket3 board for a 3.45Vcore Am5x86 CPU. The PLL was already future-proof. Maybe you will get lucky too.

[@phipli]

Use the 386/486 board to compare the performance of the 486 in a 386 socket with a regular 486 in the 486 socket! :)

[@protonjinx]

at 30:00, looks like an opti local bus slot motherboard. I have one myself (+an olb gfx card) and consider it my most valuable peice of retro hardware.

[@bitsundbolts]

I hope I'll find the information for each board. I guess I'm going to make dedicated videos about each of them.

[@M_McFly]

@@bitsundbolts Definitely an OLB slot. Physically EISA, but electrically custom local bus. Good luck finding an OLB card!

[@rodhester2166]

My basement is like a scrapyard.. I would like to see the performance of the two 386 (486) cpu's

[@tr0gd0r04-z1l]

I think you should work on the board that supports both 486 and 386

[@bitsundbolts]

Working on it right now 🙂

[@simo.koivukoski]

The MultiRead specification was developed to guarantee that drives could read multiple optical disc formats, including CD-ROM, CD-R, and CD-RW discs.

[@nickwallette6201]

Huh. I never looked into it, but I had always assumed it had something to do with being able to read multiple sessions on a disc.

[@stamasd8500]

Aww man I could have sent you a few 5.25" disks in that little package I dispatched recently... :)

[@bitsundbolts]

Ah, don't worry, I'll get disks for this drive. I have plenty of material for other videos in the meantime 😃

[@Edmilho]

muito bom! Gostei!

[@barrozo24]

that 386/486 motherboard is golddd more videos and compare that 386+++ cpu with a original 386 and a 486

[@crazyfurnaceguy1229]

36:10 It's EISA slot (32-bit ISA slot , can compatable with 8-bit and 16-bit ISA cards) or proprietary slot for backplane or RAM card

[@bitsundbolts]

Interesting... Although I doubt I'll ever find something that plugs in there. But who knows

[@DnaX]

​​@@bitsundbolts I have some EISA cards but not motherboards for them. Maybe you can use/test them :)

[@bitsundbolts]

What kind of cards were actually made for those EISA slots?

[@ChrisSTARS2407]

@@bitsundbolts SCSI bus controllers, netwoking adapters, some graphics adapters. Actually, this is 32-bit version of ISA, so everything that needs higher bandwidth could possibly be made for this bus

[@crazyfurnaceguy1229]

@@bitsundbolts EISA interface cards and slots are mostly used on servers that require high bandwidth, but their applications are similar to those of general PC interface cards. Like networking cards, SCSI cards, graphics cards. It is less common on personal PCs because patent licensing fees are relatively expensive.

[@alisharifian535]

The interesting point is that the negative terminal of lithium batteries start corroding first.

[@bitsundbolts]

If I understand correctly, the negative terminal is where the electrons come from first - with a lot of energy. Haha, here comes me theorizing 😅. This energy may interact with its surroundings: humidity or other molecules in the air around that connector. When the electrons arrive at the positive terminal, the "rapids" slow down to a calm river. But that may be totally wrong - so, don't quote me on that 😅

[@alisharifian535]

@@bitsundbolts a simpler explanation may be that negative terminal always loses electrons so it is more prone to oxidation because it wants to redeem lost electrons by any means.

[@ammaina01]

S3 battle with pentium 233 mmx , Quake 1 and OpenGL wrapper . The galaxy of S3 trio/dx/gx/gx2/Vx cards.... they are an absurd parallel world . A crazy series like that of tomb raider 486

[@bitsundbolts]

Thanks for the suggestion! I like that idea! I'm not sure if I have all those S3 cards though. I need to go through all those boxes that are piling up 😅

[@B24Fox]

I would have thrown away MY BED, in order to make room for those complete cases/PCs...

[@bitsundbolts]

Ohh... I am sure I'll find more of them - and in better condition. Most of the covers were dented and badly scratched. But I agree, I should've taken at least one of the cases.

[@user-wy6iy7ij1z]

There is no good scrapyard here where i live, if so, i would go there often.

[@turbinegraphics16]

You could have just taken the face plate of the 386 case but even that takes a bit of room so might not be worth it. I liked the 486 with that weird slot, looks a bit like eisa.

[@bravo1111]

Man, you are blessed!. How is it possible to still find 386, 486 hardware on a scrapyard?. In my area it's getting harder to find stuff build before 2010 on the "Wertstoffhof". Grüße...

[@bitsundbolts]

Well, it's not that common to find 386 and 486. This time, I was really lucky! I already had a look at two of the hard drives. Turns out, those PCs seem to be from the same company. They must have kept them in storage for 30 years! They have a DOS accounting software with last entries in 1994. I don't know what people don't consider wiping their hard drives. Oh, the company still exists and is also located in the UAE.

[@ChrisSTARS2407]

@@bitsundbolts this may also surprise you, but woking for medical organization at far eastern part of Russia may also be interesting when it comes to retro computers. For example, lately I found there, in a storage room, an industrial Advantech case with lots of expansion slots (about 10 at least). I still don't know, what's inside, but I think there's something like socket 370 single board PC inserted into almost passive backplane which contains lots of PCI slots. Also, more recently I got a 286 board from one of my collegues. This is also a part of some previously used medical equipment there, maybe this board even work, I still didn't check it. He also presented me a couple of 5.25 inch diskettes. Sorry to say, there wasn't any storage devices already that could be used with that 286 as is was torn down a while ago, so I had to buy a 5.25 inch floppy disk drive myself. And there's another fun fact that I didn't know before that USSR back then produced floppy disk drives. I decided to order USSR-made FDD labeled as Электроника МС 5311 (Elektronika MS 5311) because it was pretty decent at price and the visual condition was as new (Just a small deviation from the topic, almost everything in USSR branded as Elektronika was actually a clone of some widely known device from other brands in the rest of the world). Unfortunately this FDD (and most of Elektronika FDDs) support only double sided, double density writing, there's no high density support and there's still some to research, how to configure jumpers on that FDD in order to make it work with IBM Compatibles, as these FDDs were primarily designed to work with USSR-made ZX-Spectrum clones. By the way, as far as I remember, your TEAC FDD is one of the latest that DOES support high density writing, so I if this drive works, you're lucky. If you need some 5.25 diskettes, just search for then on ebay, there's still some (maybe even plenty) of them in sealed packages, 10 FDs in package. I wish you luck with restoration of all these hardware ;)

[@verovieira1]

Dozen of jumpers !

[@bitsundbolts]

I hope I find the manuals for all those boards.

[@SianaGearz]

9:53 Crispy PCB around the audio amplifier IC is not that unusual! Someone was using passive speakers on this card. TEA2025B audio power amplifier running off 12V line, 5W total stereo output power into 8 Ohm, can actually take damage when running into 4 Ohm because it would be trying to do closer to 10W and not succeeding. Probably dumps about a third of its output power into the PCB via the ground pins. 15:41 hey i wonder if "reserved" pins are working SPDIF! Might be disabled, being an OEM drive. 47:19 obviously an Acer chipset. I love Socket7, i just don't know if the board needs any work done; i guess one won't know until it's fully tested :D 49:15 Panasonic/Matsushita. Very nice. Bet it works!

[@bitsundbolts]

Thanks for that info on the soundcard! I'll keep that in mind. So, there was just too much power drawn from possibly passive speakers. And yes, I think the socket 7 board will just work. It was in a case as well.

[@quittessa1409]

Good haul bud :D

[@ToomsDotDk]

that brown slot on the mb looked like EISA, if it is then it is an odd board with the cpu and mix of slots

[@bitsundbolts]

It is indeed EISA - after I cleaned it, I could read an inscription on the slot "EISABus". I looked up what an EISA expansion card looks like. 😔 I have come across some of those cards and did not take them because of the odd looking connector. Well, now I know better. Hopefully I'll find more of them in the future!

[@ToomsDotDk]

@@bitsundbolts IBM come out with MCA bus that was not an open and free standard, EISA is all the other vendors attempt to make an 32bit bus standard that still support old ISA cards in the same slot, it it the first "plug and play" but you need some config software and for each card an .cfg file with the config details. this mainboard is odd with the cpu cross over to support both and the slots is both 8 and 16 isa and EISA

[@Nukle0n]

Section called ISA and PCI cards, first is an AGP card, third is a Socket 1/Slot 370 Slotket :P

[@GigAHerZ64]

45:15 I'm running my am386-40 with 90MHz crystal. All good. 100MHz crystal didn't boot, though.