14 Subtle Differences between Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door for Switch and GameCube (Part 2)

[@Polarweebqc38]

I prefer the new animation for the curse, less strain on the eyes

[@gaalxystar1873]

Also like how the curse face has more expression

[@jemandetwas1]

Prettier animation and better for people with epilepsy

[@patrickcoronado-taylor1802]

I'm sure that was the idea.

[@JorArg-c7s]

weak

[@jaxolon333]

plus it makes it a bit more comedic with mario getting struck by lightning

[@TheNoWayOut85]

“Acquired some thickness” is my new favorite expression lmao

[@AbeM.]

The chest demon also does a happy face after cursing Mario now..

[@loritaylor1602]

I think the face of the cursed demon chest partially inspired Spiritomb’s face.

[@jacketofdiamonds]

I mean, pretty much everyone has new expressions now. That's not a subtle difference.

[@mightnare3237]

demons*

[@gay4sswhovian]

The fourth one has sad expression too when he wonder if you're hurted

[@trainerlsw]

The fourth one's concern is highlighted a lot better now.

[@PyroSirBrad]

Another difference is that some cutscenes include all buddies. An example is when you’re getting the next star location at the door and you’re surrounded by all your buddies. Another cutscene I’ve noticed is when you going to Glitzville it’ll show everyone with Mario in the blimp. This is a nice touch because I like all my buddies be involved. Showing more inclusion of everyone and not just who you got selected makes it feel like everyone is together with Mario on an adventure to help save the day. I just got to Glitzville but I hope there’s more of these cutscenes where everyone is there.

[@daryantsns3448]

ALL MY FELLAS!

[@PyroSirBrad]

@@daryantsns3448 beaten the game and from what i can recall? that's it.

[@blueocten]

Anybody else kinda feel like this is one of those "remade to be as good as you thought it was" kind of remakes? I never thought the original was bad by any means, but the vast majority of these new changes and tweaks feel so natural that I'm actually surprised when I'm reminded that they weren't in the original. The new animation frames especially feel like such a good fit for all the different characters.

[@NrettG]

Yeah I was surprised playing the remake (never played the original) and see all these changes that honestly should have been there in the original. Especially stuff like mario swinging the hammer towards and away the camera like how was that not there already

[@questionmarkquestionmarkques]

that wasnt implemented till sticker star on the 3ds which was 8 years later​@@NrettG

[@HeatherCameron-p5f]

The npc expressions were really a delight while I was playing for the first time. I think my favorite is a confused bob-omb expression.

[@NEICHEL-Sound-Room]

Nah this is one of those 'clearly far better than the original' versions. Haven't played this game in forever and could see it looked brilliant compared to the original.

[@nicolasn12]

Small thing I realised is that enemies do a little animation when entering battle, which is absent in the original.

[@JZJ7777]

Another added animation I noticed is that the enemies will mock Mario or his partner if they get hit by a stage hazard. Unique to Dark Craws, he’ll mock Mario or the partner if they get hit by one of his attacks. No other enemy has that feature, so Dark Craws must really like seeing Mario or the partner in pain.

[@ericpeterson6520]

I love to hang a portrait of myself over my front door

[@TsunogaiDanshaku]

"Come on, Goombella! Get in-a de bucket-a!" "Mario, why are we doing this? Shouldn't we be looking for the Crystal Sta-" "Get. In-a. De bucket-a."

[@tbpbTB2010]

I'd watch a bucket% speedrun :D

[@JosephShemelewski]

​@@tbpbTB2010All buckets%

[@lechatdu136]

​@@tbpbTB2010 every tf2 fans would do that

[@SonicTheCutehog]

The added animations really make the remake feel more alive

[@ryannakao7265]

There's an interesting detail in the 2nd doopliss fight in chapter 4 at creepy steeple: if you one-shot doopliss he ACTUALLY USES A LIFE SHROOM! it's there since the developers didn't want you to skip the vivian cutscene during the fight.

[@HeatherCameron-p5f]

Guess he doesn't use it if you beat him normally cause it goes rotten or... something.

[@Ultranger]

I assume Lord Crump's position after the crowd clears in the remake is more in line with where he is before the ambush starts

[@Duckless137]

It is

[@JZJ7777]

Yep, it is.

[@chiptuni]

They removed the 2 flies, literally unplayable

[@MegaMikeStrike]

The curse flashing was changed for people with epilepsy. Also there was a fuction on gc, that in a conversation, by pressing z i think, you could go back to the previous line. Too bad they removed it :(

[@Novarcharesk]

How many people ACTUALLY have epilepsy that a massive song and dance has to be made out of every possible flashing light?

[@CharginChuck]

@@Novarcharesk Simply removing some flashing lights is not a "massive song and dance" and people with epilepsy play video games too. Some people really will look for literally any possible thing to whine about.

[@Dergburger]

​@@Novarchareskyou really gonna complain that sometimes there aren't as many flashing lights and stuff that can give some people strokes. What, you pro strokes or smthn? Feel like a reduction of strokes in the world on any capacity would be really inconvenient for your day to day life? Man, go sit in the corner and reflect on this one, it will be good for you.

[@adora_was_taken]

@@Novarcharesk god, i know right? back in my day game devs would just risk killing people for an annoying visual effect! and we liked it!

[@TheRealBatabii]

Epilepsy aside it also makes more sense because the lightning bolt actually hits Mario and the flashing just seems like a vague atmospheric effect

[@LetsPlayNintendoITA2023]

the flies are no longer there cause the toad didn't "die" there in the remake (and the international release). maybe?

[@GalekC]

the flies aren't even there for that Bandy Andy & King K's fakeout-death. this also happened with the 2011 adaptation of the H×H anime as well - flies in the manga around a "skewer," scene, none in the anime. same sorta deal with the "trail of blood" moments with FF7R (no such trails or any of the sort anymore)

[@LetsPlayNintendoITA2023]

@@GalekC o yeah

[@LetsPlayNintendoITA2023]

well the fact they re not dead yet tho

[@JZJ7777]

I think that might be it, but at the same time I’m not sure what the point of removing it was since it was only in the Japanese release of the original.

[@GalekC]

aww, no mention of the toad-victim crime-scene. i suppose that footage of the JP GCN version is hard to come by

[@PrinceLuigii]

Honestly, while I do have the original and love it to death. . . I hate to say it, but this is an instance where I actually will state the Remake is the Definitive Version of TTYD. The Lighting, the animations, the updated UI, it's just better than the original not by a small amount but by a large amount. Typically I will always side with the original because I grew up with them, but this is a rare first for me

[@clouds-rb9xt]

what r you're thoughts on the 30fps? personally i don't care about it

[@cheddarsunchipsyes8144]

@@clouds-rb9xtI doubt anyone playing paper Mario would care that the fps is 30. It’s just not really the type of game where you realize that sort of thing

[@clouds-rb9xt]

@@cheddarsunchipsyes8144 Yeah honestly the mass hysteria over it (and a few other changes) has been ridiculous. Some people are just way too obnoxious.

[@Moegivesmelife]

@@clouds-rb9xt I was initially bummed by it (I notice framerate differences immediately), especially having played the original. In the end, it wasn't that big of a deal, though I still hope they can get it to run 60 FPS on Switch 2. What bothered me infinitely more is the fact that every action and animation is now *slower* and has noticeable input lag in the remake. I reeeally wish they would fix this in an update, it affects the whole game… The new partner ring is ridiculous because it's actually SLOWER to change partners through it than it was in the original game through the normal start menu! Some actions are also weirdly synchronous even though they were asynchronous in the original. The partner switch is one example: in the original, Mario can actually start walking again before the partner has fully switched. In the remake, he must wait for the switch animation to end. Another thing is the audience actions in battles: in the original, the player retains full menu control even when an audience member is preparing to throw something. In the remake, the game annoyingly blocks you for a couple of seconds of any action other than the X button (which interferes with the audience member).

[@HeatherCameron-p5f]

​@clouds-rb9xt Absolutely agreed, 60 fps is not required whatsoever unless you play a fast paced shooter or something along those lines. People complaining so much about no 60 fps and their dislike of stylized graphics are the reason why so many games now are ultra realistic-high definition slop.

[@TheRealBatabii]

I always thought the professor frankly sign was kind of a silly choice. It would have made more sense to have a magnifying glass or a map or a book or something

[@carlwilliams9260]

I don’t know if this discussed in a different episode, but the trash can in Professor Franklyn’s house is if you miss a tattle on a boss or someone you can’t fight again. There will be a scrap of paper in the trash can so you can get it later.

[@e-mananimates2274]

It's actually in the original if you could believe it. Frankly visually hints at it in his e-mail image, while Wonky explains the feature with greater detail.

[@JZJ7777]

I just took your advice and went to the trash can in his place, and I got the Blooper tattle, which I missed when first playing through. I thought that was insane, but I was so happy. In fact, I was able to get the tattles for all the enemies, mostly bosses, that I had forgotten to tattle previously.

[@Enaronia]

While I did Tattle on all of them (of course) so I wasn't able to check, I noticed that bosses that you fight multiple times actually have multiple Tattles. I assume they'll each appear in the trash can if you miss them? I know people have pointed out that the trash can can spoil which bosses you're going to fight again--and which ones you aren't. I wonder if that was done specifically to fix that issue?

[@NFITC1]

In the original there was a shattering effect filter after returning a crystal star to the door. The remake just ripples. Kind of disappointing, but it probably didn't look good in 30fps.

[@jesusarreola3169]

Im sure a person who enjoyed ttyd on the gamecube could easily spot most of these differences mentioned but the game did just release. i do look forward to seeing what other interactions and stuff got changed. Im sure you guys will find some really interesting easter eggs that may have been added or features that might changed or slightly altered

[@Alpha-oo8]

I wonder where the water from that leaky roof is coming from… it’s not raining!

[@yugifighter2201]

The garbage pail holds the tatles of enemies you forget to check

[@АллаПрокофьева-ц2ч]

Hey what about Murder Scene in a House at Japan version of Paper Mario TTYD This house 2:46

[@spiritblox1]

Paper mario can take out COCKROACHES? This guys unstoppable

[@theblode1337]

i have a feeling there's going to be a dozen of these videos and i'm going to hate at least one change shown in each one

[@JoseViktor4099]

Yeah, this is something I Heard that happens on psicology, the brain more often than not looks on the negative Part of something, while ignoring the positives. Have you ever noticed that on tweets or comments, the opinions with more responses are often the negative ones? Yes, thats an example of what im talking about. In this case, I Guess it could be the details where the remake is *inferior* to the original.

[@Keezawea]

i mean, if you have the emotional maturity of a toddler...

[@chrange9714]

@@JoseViktor4099 The remake is never inferior to the original, those comments are probably those speaking out against wack claims about the original being superior with little evidence and mostly nostalgia bias at play. That tends to weren't wars in this community

[@JoseViktor4099]

​@@chrange9714 For me its impossible to call inferior this remake. In fact, it was everything I wanted. But to get better my point, look for instance, the framerate. I mean, is the only thing that we would call objectively inferior compared to the original, right? Yet, look at the people who called it outright inferior despite the incredible amount of things the remake does better than the original, including its main flaw that is the backtracking, ignoring that an stable 30 FPS was always an acceptable thing on this kind of games. And you may think they are a lot of people who hate this remake, right? Not really, when you look at the comments, you realize these disregards may come from the same people (I mean, I found *4* different comments on different videos of the same guy saying he was gonna buy the game, but now not because of Vivian) its really a minority, obsesed with hating the game for some reason. Thats is what I mean. To focus on the negatives and giving them more importance than it really should be. Brain is a b!tch man.

[@Dman25]

⁠@@chrange9714This is a questionable generalization. It is definitely possible for a remake to be worse. Take the general opinion on Bowser’s Inside Story DX for example. And a remake can definitely do things worse than the original. I think there are things the remake does much worse, but there are also additions and changes that I like. If you want examples of discussion on whether a remake was truly better, the remake or rebreak videos might be worth checking out.

[@Lexyvil]

I noticed enemies don't respawn as much from room-to-room transitions in chapter dungeons, and that coins are more plentiful, making it easier, but might need more confirmation on that.

[@Nico859197]

Increible trabajo que hicieron, la gente llorando por los 60fps, en vez de agradecer las mejoras que hicieron y no un simple port HD solo por los 60fps, estoy ansioso de adquirirlo y disfrutarlo.

[@Fiucha8893]

Siempre me pregunto cómo esa gente que se queja de los FPS ve películas.

[@Nico859197]

@@Fiucha8893 si El juego está hermoso, agradecido por esos gráficos y mejoras. Aprendieron de los errores de 3D All Star y Zelda Skyward Sword HD

[@jonathansaraco]

These are the kinds of subtle things that are very interesting to see. Its how you can tell this is definitely a remake and not a remaster. As some of the changes are not obvious upgrades, just things that were changed because models were remade or systems were reimplemented in sublty different ways. Or things like the two flies being missed where they probably didn't care to or missed remaking them.

[@chaos_crew766]

I don't really like nor understand the change that Goombella doesn't comment on Mario's coins being pickpocketed

[@e-mananimates2274]

Yes, it is rather peculiar why Goombella didn't even so much as mention it. I know there is a quick visual to convey the robbery, but Goombella seemed more hung up on the Bandit's behavior rather than the crime. Plus, in the original, it gives her more self-awareness.

[@SonicmaniaVideos]

Why would she know that Mario got robbed...? That's the only reason.

[@chaos_crew766]

@@SonicmaniaVideos uh Mario logic?

[@e-mananimates2274]

@@SonicmaniaVideos Maybe it's because she's that astute and even noticed something not even the player saw, such as the Bandit holding at least one coin closely. Also, she could have quickly checked Mario's pockets, especially if this wasn't her first encounter with a robber.

[@Yoshizuyuner]

@@e-mananimates2274it’s more played out for laughs than anything

[@kingnewcomer2029]

Once again, love all the improvements, and subtle details the Switch remake included such as Flavio actually having a singing animation, as well as giving the medal some thickness on the Chapter intro screen! Although, I do prefer the original game's version of the magic map animation reveal over the remake's (would've been really cool if they could've combined the best aspects of both).

[@anomaly_doopliss]

I really miss the "BYUM" sound effect from things like using Earth Tremor but I'm still really enjoying the game. Loving all the subtle changes personally

[@e-mananimates2274]

I only used the Earth Tremor one so far, so I'll have to try it again to confirm. It really does seem like this remake has a habit of removing sound effects, which reduces the punch the original has.

[@charliep7112]

I am glad TTYD Remake exists as TTYD is now more accessible to a wider audience. Unfortunately there are some changes I'm not necessarily a fan of, one of the worst changes being the nerf of Koops' first strike hitbox. In the original, Koops' shell can first strike an enemy whenever active, of course yoy shoot the shell and this allows you to first strike enemies from a distance, which is nice, but the beauty comes from holding the shell in place to set up traps, you can bait the enemy to walk into the shell, which wasn't hard to do because the enemies were kind dumb, but not only that, and releasing the shell led to just wacky first strike scenarios, Koops was a first striking powerhouse, the insanely sick and powerful first strikes you can do in the OG version made Koops a versatile and underrated first striking option, whenever I play TTYD, I have Yoshi kid (who I name Bobbert) out to go fast, and when there's enemies, I bring out Koops. Unfortunately this remake removes the first strike hitbox when you hold the shell and release, the first strike hitbox is only active when you shoot the shell, when you hold and release, the first strike hitbox disappears, which is an awful change, awhile Koops is still amazing for first striking due to the range of his shell, Koops' first striking ability is a shell of it's former self. Unfriendly because of this nerf and some other changes like the slower text boxes, I cannot say the Switch version is the definitive version, if Nintendo patches TTYD Remake, they have to restore Koops' first strike hitbox to what it once was, please Nintendo I beg you.

[@e-mananimates2274]

The remake has some other peculiar changes, too. I could list a few, but there is this one guy who hunts for comments and opposes those who disagree on how the remake is perfect.

[@HeatherCameron-p5f]

Welp guess they should just done a 60 dollar port huh.

[@carolinamarinmicol7614]

Good to know

[@ethanrussow9262]

I think the trash can is for entries for missed enemies, I missed some enemies in the second chapter and the entires showed up in it (like the fuzzy hoard that shows up with the golden fuzzy)

[@Novarcharesk]

And only then for enemies that cannot be tattled again.

[@Enaronia]

It always did that. (Apparently; why would I ever miss a Tattle?)

[@DementedDuskull]

3:19 Also works if you jump on them

[@JustaRegular64Channel]

6:11 if you pause at the right time you’ll see Mario’s left arm dislocated

[@EvenFox]

4:30 KIRBY REFERENCE KIRBY REFERENCE

[@hidmdhd2156]

Great video Looygi Bros 👏😀

[@lordofbeads6198]

A change from the original that I noticed recently is that in battle, when you hit an spectator in the original they leave with a scream, in the remake they leave silently

[@Enaronia]

Screaming in a theatre is just rude.

[@lordofbeads6198]

@@Enaronia True enough

[@Moegivesmelife]

They're not actually silent, they now use the proper character-specific voices. But it's very quiet.

[@Starkkis-alt]

In my personal opinion, the original Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door holds a special place in my heart and I believe it is a remarkable game. While I respect the efforts put into the Switch remake, I find that the new music does not resonate with me as strongly as the original soundtrack. However, I acknowledge that music preferences are subjective and others may enjoy the new arrangements. :^)

[@blazingsonic]

I understand your opinion but it's kind hilariously made moot when there's a 1 coin badge you can buy that changes the music have to it's original and you still get to hear the new music added. ^-^ Mario's partners have their own theme music! :D

[@Starkkis-alt]

@@blazingsonic oh they have badge for that o.o

[@DobbyBogg]

@@blazingsonic I was unaware there was a badge for it and I was thinking of not buying the game because I hated the Rogue Port music compared to the original. Thanks for commenting, I might buy it now.

[@Moegivesmelife]

@@blazingsonic Just to add: the Nostalgic Tunes badge does not actually return every original track. For example, when escaping the Great Tree from an explosion, the cutscene plays the new music even if you have the badge equipped. There are other cases like this too. And because of the decision to implement such an option as a badge, that means you will never hear the original title screen / file selection music. I wish you could also return the original sound effects, but oh well.

[@lexsworld666]

I want to know what glitches work and what glitches don’t work in the remake of PM2 TTYD.

[@RTD_Dev]

I subscribed to your channel, Looygi. 😉

[@tonyb1642]

You can also stomp the cockroaches with a jump and get a coin.

[@LycanLink]

4:35 - "Crystal Shards"? Did you unintentionally reference Kirby 64 here? 🤭

[@tong2304]

I saw a old panther from 64 in remake in beginning before Mario look at map and the transition

[@Nintendostar02]

Non so se sia una novità del remake (ma sono abbastanza sicuro di sì), ora se entri in battaglia mentre sei sul miniyoshi mario entrerà in battaglia con un'animazione in cui scende dal miniyoshi.

[@Vaquix000]

Weird. All these changes seem to be for the better. I say weird because usually when I see changes in a remake it's for the worse. The one thing that I find distracting is Rogueport's music... too bombastic. Great for perhaps a trailer for the game but having that intensity for walking around town doesn't feel right.

[@jacketofdiamonds]

Number nine may match up more with where Crump starts, but I consider it a downgrade. In the original, you could interpret it as them attacking Crump in the confusion.

[@TheRealBatabii]

While that is more humorous it also makes less sense. I like the idea that Crump is marginally more competent than his cronies

[@jacketofdiamonds]

@@TheRealBatabii Which can explain how he's not KOed after that amount of friendly fire. However, I also feel like it's harder to justify them missing Mario and Goombella sneaking away if they don't have someone else they're attacking. ...on the other side of things, without Magnus von Grapple, he's got 1 attack and like 4 health before he decides to sic his minions on us. He probably has more health, but the attack power is kind of inexcusable even if he's holding back lol

[@TheRealBatabii]

@@jacketofdiamonds Crump is just watching them dog pile what he thinks is Mario and doesn't see him sneak out the back. He doesn't have to be attacking with them or being attacked to not see what's going on in the chaos

[@mechano7640]

6:00 woah i just played that part in spanish and it's different? She does mention that they stole from me

[@pandafanta1223]

I thinks thats makes more sense cause its a unique skill from your country.

[@JonathanGilmer]

All of the amazing little details in the original are one of the reasons TTYD is such a masterpiece! P.S. kinda bummed the 2 flies are missing in the remake 😆

[@cathymyers8286]

7:51 prob to prevent seizures

[@randomname.4032]

0:44 he didn't stop because he didn't see Mario

[@kingzippoiiii]

The only thing i hate that they change is that the changed the "end of chapter" part of the end of chapters, after watching all of Chuggaaconroy's playthrough of these games i always wanted to yell them when they came up

[@JosephShemelewski]

All spots that had flies now don't. Litterally unplayable -57 outta 10

[@Ryshin75]

The one change I really don’t like is the end of chapter/cleared screen when Mario gets a crystal star. But over all. I’m really enjoying the remake.

[@jahsaiasley2597]

The thing is miss is when you hit and enemy audience member in the GameCube and they run away screaming. I literally bought the new game to test this out and was a bit disappointed. 😅

[@minhhoangang2278]

I still don't understand why they call them cursed powers? They seem cool

[@DS9TREK]

That's the joke. The beings in the chests are totally oblivious

[@enlongjones2394]

You can find this out through a certain character’s stories later in the game. But if you want to just know now, I’ll put a bit of a spoiler warning in this comment. Spoilers ahead for the cursed chests’ origins. The chests contain the souls of the four heroes who sealed away the calamity 1000 years ago. The demon retaliated by sealing them into the black chests, and cursing them so that they would have to curse whoever unsealed them. The implication is that, being good guys, the 4 of them *say* that what they’re doing is a terrible curse, while knowing full well that it’s actually a useful power that will help some new hero gather the stars.

[@minhhoangang2278]

@@enlongjones2394 Thanks for explaining it to me.

[@e-mananimates2274]

@@enlongjones2394 I'll have to read Grifty's stories again to confirm this, but that is a nice loophole for assisting Mario!

[@LamanKnight]

My favourite part of those "cursed" chests is that they all seem so excited that they finally get to do a whole speech about how terrible the curse is, and do their spooky, maniacal laughs. I think it's the fourth chest who even thanks you for letting him give his performance, because he'd been waiting so long for the chance to do it.

[@MogAnarchy]

I'm probably in the minority here, but I really miss Goombella's little squeaky shoes in the remake! 😅

[@Novarcharesk]

Koops also has that sound in the original.

[@blazingsonic]

Well as a trade you get Goombella's squeaky "Dadadadadadada" voice. ^-^

[@MogAnarchy]

@@blazingsonic now that I do like 😂

[@P0chuL1ver]

There are so much details to cover between the original and the remake of The Thousand Year Door. Since I haven't played the og TTYD in awhile on emu (I haven't even finished it), I wonder 2 things: 1. What is the room that has been replaced with the multiple shortcut room in the original game? What is also on the other side of both doors in the OG version? 2. In Creepy Steeple, there is a room with a gigantic block with a pipe inside it, leading to Twilight Town as a shortcut. This is not in the original game, so is the room even here in the original game? If so, what's inside it if it's not the shortcut pipe?

[@Enaronia]

1. There were two rooms there originally, each with two pipes. You needed the Ultra Hammer to open the second room and therefore to pass from one side to the other. 2. That entire room is new.

[@dalaxdercrisper957]

That "cursed" thing is the same as Link get "cursed" by evil bat (not so evil) from Link to the part and Link's awakening.

[@BlazingKhioneus]

One thing that bugs me about the remake is the "freestyle" portion added to the end of the loop on all songs. It's just kinda out of place and in a track like the Smorg Battle, it kinda kills the momentum the song had.

[@chrange9714]

There is no freestyle portion, if you're talking about the couple new extensions added to some of the songs they are all great and really give them more charm. It's never out of place and the Smorg battle is a perfect example of it making the song even more of a banger. "Kills the momentum" yeah right lol that is not true at all, if anything it enhances the momentum the song had.

[@BlazingKhioneus]

@@chrange9714 The "momentum" the song had was the feeling of being on the roof of a locomotive barreling down the tracks. Wind blasting you in the face as you hold your hat on to fight it, carefully watching your footing to not go flying off. It's a simply exhillieratibg feeling that the extension betrays in my opinion. It slows down to revel in itself, which isnt really something the smorgs are doing.

[@chrange9714]

@@BlazingKhioneus The extension doesn't betray any of that, throughout the entire remix it gives the exact same vibe you just described. Minus the carefully watching your footing but as neither version gave that off lol. If anything the remix and extension crank up the exhilarating feeling while slowing down a bit to the end to highlight the situation you're in. This is the end of the line, fighting a bunch of mischievous smoke creatures which very much fits for the Smorgs. Slowing down a bit doesn't equal "reveling in itself" it isn't doing that.

[@BlazingKhioneus]

@@chrange9714 I disagree

[@Moegivesmelife]

@@BlazingKhioneus I agree with you. The vibe is not as thrilling as it was in the original.

[@Willlowxb23]

2:30 Extra thick

[@manuper11]

Lmao, the cockroaches one is funny

[@e-mananimates2274]

I just wish they reappeared once you clobber them. Maybe they will later in the game, but don't quote me on it.

[@WyvernLP]

The music in this area in the rework will forever bother me. In the first game, the music gives us the vibes of a rustlin busy sea port town but there's a weird mysterious feeling in the air. While in the second one, it makes it sound like its a huge city of excitement and adventure, having no hint at the weirdness.

[@MusuemBucket]

The second half does honestly

[@Novarcharesk]

Fuck knows where you people are getting this 'huge city' vibe from the song. It sounds adventurous.

[@chrange9714]

@@MusuemBucket No part of it sounds anything like that

[@chrange9714]

Where are you getting "huge city of excitement" like lmao it sounds nothing like that. Speak for yourself, the original track just made it sound weird and a bit mysterious. It never really sounded like a bustling sea port town. The remix on the other hand very much does, really fitting the theme of Rogueport while giving a hint of weirdness. A bustling town full of ruffians and thugs, while giving that vibe of adventure and "you've reached an uncharted area to explore" that the original track didn't have. The mysterious vibes are kept for the underground which is way more fitting as the mysteries are all down there, not above in the main town.

[@MusuemBucket]

@@chrange9714 idk to me it sounds more rusty and has more of a crime feeling to it, which is not bad, considering I prefer the remake version of the thene

[@Wendy_O._Koopa]

Not really a "change," since you could never see Madame Flurrie from behind before, but there's a mistake where you can't see her necklace from the back. It's possible they were looking at a plushie, or 3D model of me, and saw that I only have beads in front; but that's because my shell blocks the ones in back. And Nintendo, loves to capitalize on optimization every chance it gets, so they simply don't model them... same thing with my teeth, they don't stick out, so they don't get modeled. But we do see her necklace as a separate item in this game, and it is demonstrably 360° of full beads. So it's kinda jarring to not see it go all the way around her neck in this game, even though she's completely nekkid, and there's nothing to hide it in back.

[@drnanard9605]

It's hidden by her hair... Not a mistake

[@Wendy_O._Koopa]

@@drnanard9605 Her hair goes up, not down... did you even look?

[@drnanard9605]

@@Wendy_O._Koopa and yet it covers her whole neck. Look at the sprite again. You can't see her neck. It goes from her hair to her back. Necklaces don't go in your back, and they don't go over your hair, so could you see it if you can't see her neck?

[@Wendy_O._Koopa]

@@drnanard9605 If you're expecting me to believe that she's just so hunchbacked that you can't see her neck, then I would count that as a mistake again. She's fat, but there was never any indication that she was a hunchback. Also why would they draw her neck if she's wearing a necklace? You're begging the question right now.

[@drnanard9605]

@@Wendy_O._Koopa I'm not begging anything. We don't see the necklace and we don't see the neck either, so the neck can't be hidden... by the necklace. You can say it's a mistake to hide her neck, that it makes her look like a hunchback, fine, because now that's just a matter of personal taste. My point is that they didn't just forget the necklace. Her design makes the necklace hidden.

[@lalopikachu]

Also, the animation for the Crystal Star get is lame, in comparission to the GC one which is very flashy. Kind of a downgrade.

[@Moegivesmelife]

I truly miss that in the remake! Also, very weirdly, the remade song that plays when you get a Crystal Star starts with a lower note after the initial ~3-second buildup. It sounds less triumphant to me…

[@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv]

So Goombella is not a snitch in the remake. Good to know.

[@jacketofdiamonds]

Goombella doesn't have magical omniscience of Mario's coin count in the remake lol

[@joelsytairo6338]

But this game with 15 fps animations runs at 30 so I guess we all got to Boycott it

[@AmityB.-jc5ym]

Make a video that’s just your intro

[@AmityB.-jc5ym]

And it’s 10 hours

[@loftypenalty91]

I'm not trying to hate on the remake, but aside from the new animation for the curse chests, I prefer the animation of the original GameCube version for everything else.

[@_treed1]

Why did they downgrade the crystal star reveal on the map???? It was so good on gamecube

[@chrange9714]

That is not a downgrade at all, it is a huge upgrade and way more charming in the remake

[@e-mananimates2274]

Even though I like new version, there is nothing wrong with the original either. It's all just a matter of taste, and you're not at fault for your opinion.

[@Cdawg6429o]

All the chest demons’ dialogues are different from the original game and it makes me upset

[@chrange9714]

They're all extremely charming and hilarious, if this bother you so much stick to the original nostalgia blinded lad

[@corralzin4909]

There is nothing nostalgia blinding about preferring certain written text, clown

[@e-mananimates2274]

For the record, do you mean this, or are you making a joke?

[@Cdawg6429o]

@@chrange9714 you’re not wrong. It was just incredibly jarring when it wasn’t what I expected. I’ve been replaying this game yearly since it’s original release, so it’s like reading a different translation of my favorite book now lol

[@Cdawg6429o]

@@e-mananimates2274 I’m being sincere, but it’s not like game-breaking for me, just was a little disappointing. Feels like the localizers took extra precaution to remove any and all problematic language but some of the efforts seem superfluous

[@onvogmasaj]

not a fan of most of the changes

[@LukasPeace]

Most of these are neat, a couple are meh. The pipe animation is the only one that feels like a legit downgrade imo

[@SonicmaniaVideos]

The transition?

[@e-mananimates2274]

I like both pipe transition animations, but I respect your opinion!

[@kevinsmith163]

You shouldn't dislike like. What's wrong with the change?

[@chrange9714]

None of them are meh, what's even meh? The pipe animation is way cooler. They just took the original animation and added more charm to it, that is not a downgrade

[@TheRealBatabii]

The pipe animation looks more like paper and less like, I don't know, Saran wrap?

[@Rokudaimedono]

Man, the original version of Goombella's dialogue after the bandit robs Mario is so much better...All these numerous sanitized versions of the game's dialogue really bothers me, there are so many, and so many of them are lame...

[@e-mananimates2274]

I will say Goombella mentioning how Mario was robbed added more impact to the scene and shown how aware she is.

[@chrange9714]

It is not so much better at all. Please explain how it is and you aren't just blinded by nostalgia. What, she randomly mentions that Mario got robbed as if she saw him take his coins with how fast he zipped by? How can she tell, how did she just peer into his pockets? The remake's version is way more realistic to the situation and makes way more sense, it is better. There are no numerous sanitized versions of the game's dialogue at all that's a lie, barely any of it is changed outside of a very few and when it is it's arguably better than in the og. You poor thing, if it bothers you this much that she merely doesn't point out Mario was robbed go play the GameCube version.

[@chrange9714]

@@e-mananimates2274 It didn't add any impact to the scene and she's shown to be very aware throughout the whole game. The thief zipped by super fast, how would she have even known Mario lost coins? What did she peer into his pockets? The remake version is way more realistic to the situation, you know you're kinda starting to piss me off with how shilly you are to the original and anyone who whines about the remake. You just make up anything you can to agree with them, giving so much credit to the original for things that were never there.

[@e-mananimates2274]

@@chrange9714 You know, you gave me a similar reply to this comment much earlier when I gave a similar comment in a different thread. I chose not to engage because I wasn't interested in getting sucked into another confrontation with you.The only reason why I changed my mind is because you kept pushing me and still holding me against what happened in that other thread. Also, I could explain the details regarding Goombella on how she knew Mario was robbed; however, I have a general idea on how you would respond. As a result, I'm not going to bother. Now, at the time I'm writing this, this video was uploaded nine hours ago, while Rokudaimedono's comment was written an hour ago. It's quite peculiar how you would return to this video and then gravitate to a recent comment expressing a contradictory opinion towards the remake. If I didn't know any better, I would say you clicked the tab where you sorted the comments by the most recent one and then actively searched for ones you don't like. I know I replied to a few more recent comments myself, but the ones not involving you at all were respectful and/or positive. I know you don't like it when I make assumptions, but I'm under the impression you periodically lurk in these comment sections. By the way, apart from all my speculation and assumptions I even share with others and my condescending tone, I was actually civil towards you. If I am motivated to reply to you once more, I won't promise I will hold back harsher assumptions and even insults.

[@henrycalde1991]

I agree. It was much more blunt and out there in the OG. I miss the dialogues like that. In the remakes they are more “toned down” and I don’t know why but it gives the game even more of a “kid-ish” vibe. Also, you guys noticed how they removed the “siren” name from the “shadow siren” sisters? Why was that? But overall nice game I really like it

[@chaarrrt]

Hating the lower framerrate now that I've seen this video :(

[@kevinsmith163]

Why?

[@Molten2004]

It looks exactly the fucking same

[@DJFoxy-TheKitsune]

It’s NOT a big deal 🙄

[@slenderMax28]

Yeah, such a shame. I'll never understand people who pretend there isn't a difference.

[@Molten2004]

@@slenderMax28 💀

[@lacasadelvideojuego3880]

Everything looks so choppy at 30fps :(

[@TheRealBatabii]

You're confusing choppy with slow. The 30 FPS is still consistent it just looks like TV now

[@miwer1000]

The original looks and sounds so much better in every way

[@michaelstaggmick]

Least obvious nostalgia bias driven comment:

[@jclkaytwo]

how is it even remotely possible to believe that?

[@thedabmaster287]

@@michaelstaggmick fr

[@HipnotikHylian]

No it does not 😂

[@DS9TREK]

It's absolutely legitimate to think the OG music better, that's a matter of taste. But the visuals are objectively better in the remake.

[@cesarmarroquin9930]

Which also proves the original is superior

[@MusuemBucket]

How?

[@CharginChuck]

@@MusuemBucket Because some people can't help whining about anything being different. They want the remake to be exactly the same game as the original. In which case they should just, you know, play the original.

[@BlindMelonLord]

exactly. All these people who say the original is better than the remake because of this, this, and this, well then play the original version then. No one is forcing you to play the remake. Personally, I think it’s good that the thousand year door actually got a remake. that way people can experience it who haven’t originally experienced it.

[@JZJ7777]

Everyone who whines like you thinks the remake should’ve been exactly the same. If it was exactly the same, it would’ve been more of a port instead of a remake, and I’m glad it wasn’t.

[@BlindMelonLord]

@@JZJ7777 I think you might want to reread my comment there, buddy. I was talking about people who were complaining that this remake exists. They are acting like no changes were made to it, and that the original is better. Which is what I said. Hence why I said, if you like the original so much, then quit complaining about the remake, and play the original. It’s that simple. i’m not the one whining that a remake exists. Hell… I’m glad it does. Because now, people like me who haven’t had the system to play it on, can finally play it. With quality of life improvements. also, I don’t get the complaining about it being capped at 30 FPS and not 60. Oh no, it’s not a higher frame rate. Guess what? Only people who look hard enough are going to notice. Hell… A lot of let’s plays I’ve been seeing people playing the new one, they didn’t even notice until people said something.

[@GabrylMD]

I feel like for a lot of these we traded smooth and simple animations for vacuous interactivity and excessive expression. While also trying to still reinforce the whole 'paper' trope. Like they REALLY can't help themselves. Most of these things I would hardly call an improvement in any regard. It's a shame they spent so much needless effort when they really could have settled on getting 60FPS and some proper face-lifting. What we have now is no less an echo of TTYD, through the lens of OK and modern PM.

[@kevinsmith163]

What are you talking about? This game is not an reinforcement of the Paper trope they've been using since the modern trilogy lol. This game retains it's original artstyle while using mixing some of the modern PM style, which is a great compromise.

[@Yoshizuyuner]

Paper trope in a game called *PAPER* Mario who would have thought that would happen?

[@chrange9714]

"Excessive expression" when the original game barely had any expressions for these characters or the world. And "vacuous interactivity?" The original's interactivity pales in comparison to the remake. You are an average toxic TTYD worshiper, you'd only be pleased if they just ported the exact GameCube version to Switch and changed nothing. Guess what, it's called PAPER Mario. What's Mario? He's paper. The world he lives in? Paper. Items and stuff around the world? Also themed around paper. This was in the original game and has evolved since, it's a natural evolution of the series. It's not about them not being able to help themselves, it's about them taking the series forward instead of backwards. Everything in the remake is a big improvement from the original, some waaaay more than others. They didn't spend needless effort on a single thing, what we have now is the definitive version of TTYD. You and those like you did not deserve this remake.

[@jclkaytwo]

"Most of these things I would hardly call an improvement in any regard" the whole point of this video was to cover small and insignificant details. the remake makes huge, indisputably positive changes to virtually every aspect of the original game, from the gameplay to the presentation to the quality of life features. these changes were not covered in this video because it's not what the video was focusing on.

[@LonesomeDevil]

Literally in the first Paper Mario's Prologue they made a paper visual gag. They've always been there. The main issue with the modern games isn't the paper jokes, but the fact that they had nothing substantial around them, so they just feel hollow.

[@danielburleson563]

I really really miss pressing down to enter the pipe

[@blazingsonic]

Mario gives everyone equal beatings!