'Lord of the Flies': Darwinian, Biblical and Freudian Analysis

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I don’t see this book as being about inate evil. Especially as evil is a concept without scientific basis or description but refers to a concept which is supernatural and unscientific and this not related to Darwin or Freud. The character Jack is clearly bad. He’s pompous and enjoys his position of authority and status as head boy and leader of the choir and resents the popular and sensible Ralph. But for me the introduction is a clue to the film’s true message, which is still images of the backdrop in which the story takes place as during world war 2. The message is about war. The two central characters are two opposing factions on a war. The third central character is the beast and the fourth is Piggy. Two small children report seeing a beast with claws and fangs. The beast then becomes the central concern of Jack and his tribe and the basis for his ever growing control and brutality as he is seen having his followers whipped for subordination. The plot has parallels with 1984 where a population is cruelly suppressed and controlled with the excuse of a war which does not really exist. The beast is evil itself. It exists, but it is not within mankind but is attracted by him or her when he or she begins to act out of fear or greed. The Lord of the Flies is a reference to the devil. Flies are the spawn of the devil and can be heard at key moments in the film when there is a flash of anger or crawling over the pig head, which was left as an offering for The Beast, which is another name for the devil. So it’s a film about evil/the devil and mankind’s relationship with it. It’s ever present but is only manifest when it claims the hearts and minds of the weak and lazy. Eventually the whole island is ablaze and Jack’s tribe murder the strange blonde boy who Jack proclaims to be the beast. This is a reference to the war where the world was ablaze and murder was committed in the name of self defence against an enemy which must be evil itself. The final major character is Piggy. Piggy is physically defenceless but is an important member of the tribe as he can entertain and educate the smaller children and he contains the only source of technology which can create fire, which is the first step towards invention and sophistication in society. Jack’s tribe first steal and break a lense, then steal his glasses and don’t return them, then kill him with a boulder. The film is not hopeful in the least. In the final scene, Ralph has been chased and cornered on the beach and was about to be murdered by Jack and his tribe. Then the grown up’s simply arrive and Ralph’s life is spared. But that’s an ending that evades the point the film was making which was that the boys are mankind and the island is the world. There are no grown ups to arrive just in the nick of time and fix everything. There are only the little boys fighting with each other. The beast exists but it is not flesh and blood. The warning of the film is about group mentality and the seductive influence of violence and power.

[@mrbruff]

Thank you for your comment. I see the theme as 'innate evil' because Golding himself said 'Man produces evil as a bee produces honey' when talking about this book. You are right that the idea of evil is supernatural, but there are so many Biblical references in the book that the supernatural was clearly a part of Golding's thought process - along with the scientific (for example see my character analysis of Simon). I agree that the book references war, but for me the question Golding is digging into is WHY wars occur in the first place.

[@iwanttocomplain]

@@mrbruff the book is about evil. But I didn’t read it as something within the nature of man and to be reasoned with. The book, despite what Goulding may have said, is about the devil. The devil is a biblical invention which is a mataphore for wickedness. Wickedness has no reason or rationality and is destruction itself. It’s often said that it is natural for people to be evil and only with the proper environment can the urge to hurt others be contained. But I feel the influence of evil is separate from the nature and minds of men and women and is like a brooding external animal or beast that looks for opportunity to persuade and influence the actions of men, like the snake with Eve in the garden of Eden. It is a conscious entity which can be identified as existing and hostile. That is a very significant difference to the notion of the essential makeup of mankind to being a container or vessel of mindless hate and one that can become corrupted by the influence of an external force. The film itself, is grim. I recommend a short and simple documentary I watched last night called The Reunion I think where the director invites the actors back to the island to reminisce and consider the impact the experience had on the lives of the young boys later in life. It’s my opinion that the director, Peter Brook was insensitive to the impact that the roles had on the physche’s of the children. There’s no question that the man that played Jack was deeply scarred by his experience. The idea that he was chosen due to his personality being close to the character I think affected him deeply and made his life less easy than if he was not cast in the film. Not from the influence of fame as he wouldn’t have been recognisable, but the process of inhabiting, so completely the role he was given. The evil lurks in the forest. Which is an environ Piggy finds challenging to navigate. You could say the choristers are a representation of the beast as they are described, early on as a creature, as a whole. But two of the younger members attempt to save the good boy by warning him of Jack’s plan to kill him and giving him food. If evil is present in all people then why is it in different amounts? As a concept, it is not given to any amount of recourse or moderation. The concept is binary. If you can kill for fun there is no limit to your potential for cruelty. The book is about a binary dispute. ‘God’ vs ‘the devil’ and mankind is the battlefield itself. Not an internal struggle for reason in a world which is evil. The world is neutral but good and evil vie for supremacy with the only being that has a conscience, which is mankind. Fight Club is more or less the same story. It is generally considered that Edward Norton’s character is mentally unstable. But it’s a little known fact that the author in fact considered Norton’s character, possibly also called Jack, to be possessed or inhabited by a separate entity that it seeking to take control of his mind and body. A creature that is evil and who’s goal is to destroy mankind and civilisation. Norton’s character triumphs st the end of Fight Club by literally shooting his own head and killing it with a gullet, surviving the blast, due to the parasite being located in that area of his head. Norton’s character had to kill himself, so to speak to survive the infestation and retain his humanity. I think they should teach Fight Club in school. Even though it’s a bit saucy at times.