Lord of the Flies - Thug Notes Summary and Analysis

[@jackleeper6310]

oh man... Just picture the pure amount of awkwardness of the boat trip back home...

[@kris242]

@Coley Durham I would friggen LOVE to see a "Where Are They Now?" story of these kids :P I bet Jack is the head of an evil corporation and Ralph is an alcoholic on the streets cuz he can't deal with the madness of reality.

[@raspberrycrowns9494]

@@kris242 I'd honestly imagine Jack to go all Patrick Bateman

[@raspberrycrowns9494]

Or maybe Roger idk

[@fredarok579]

And Piggy is *dead.*

[@mr.shepherdspie7958]

@@chloe-ev3qk yeah, basically a sociopath

[@johnmiller2132]

Love how Piggy's stick figure is drawn with a thick crayon. Because he's fat.

[@liamkearton9696]

+John Miller huh, hadn't noticed that

[@Thewritingelf]

John Miller Thought I was the only one who noticed that lol

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[@Yzzo1]

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[@katoklips9846]

T H I C C

[@EpicLLOYD]

this is the only way i can analyze books now. also R.I.P. piggy

[@ILikePi31415926535]

***** Yeah. I always found it sad how at the end when the captain asks how many people died on the island, Ralph says 2, having completely forgotten the kid with the birthmark.

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'Little white boys losing their mind' that line always cracks me up for some reason xD

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[@annalisewillis22]

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[@theascendunt9960]

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[@beveie123]

You missed the whole point of Piggy's death. He wasn't just "thrown off a cliff", he was hit by a giant rock that was pushed by the savage Roger who was overcome with bloodlust. Piggy represented Prometheus, a god who gave humans fire but then he was punished by Zeus by being chained to a rock and getting his liver eaten out by a vulture everyday. This idea adds on to how the superego, sense of morality or reason which Piggy and Prometheus possessed, will be destroyed and conquered by the savage human id, natural instinct. Just putting that out there, awesome video! :D

[@XerosXIII]

dang, that just show how deep the rabbit holes goes :/

[@FNP26]

Jenny Gao Good point, but I think you have to let a lot of things out when working with this kind of format. Much less people would stick around for a seven minute video.

[@nickyesparza8321]

Not true.. you're making too much of it. The author said in an interview himself that he intended some symbolism to be true but not as deep as many readers interpret it to be.

[@nickyesparza8321]

Interesting thought though

[@beveie123]

Nick Esparza Ah, but Golding also mentioned that his writing was greatly impacted by Greek writers and mythology my friend.

[@Flubberg464]

Anyone looking to write an essay, focus on piggy and how he changes once his glasses are first smashed by Jack (after ralph sees the fire go out) and how piggy begins to change and challenges jack. He loses reason.

[@correctopinionhaver]

+Flubberg464 THANKS FAM U REAL AS FUCK

[@Lionstar00001]

+Flubberg464 Whoa...I cant believe I missed that! Proves how there is so much symbolism in this book!

[@CarlosValenzuela-sx9xb]

+Lionstar00001 can explain pls?

[@Lionstar00001]

Carlos Valenzuela About there being lots of symbolism in this book? Well, some examples are Piggy's glasses, which are a symbol of reason (as said above). The conch is a symbol of togetherness. The paint Jack and his crew wear is a symbol of savagery/inhumane behavior, and the Lord of the Flies itself is a symbol of evil, created from the madness within the boy's hearts. There are other forms of symbols within the book as well, but those are some of the big ones.

[@CarlosValenzuela-sx9xb]

Okeuy thanks

[@67kingdedede]

quick tips: the end of chapter 1 is super foreshadowy the conch represents democracy, order and power the glasses represent piggy's logic and reason Ralph and the other boys' taking off their clothes represent them shedding the ideas of modern culture When Ralph stands on his head (which he does a lot), it means that he doesnt see the situation for what it really is When Ralph moves his hair out of his eyes, it represents him taking a more logical approach When Piggy cleans his glasses, it means that his line of logic and nature blur Piggys glasses are super important Like super important Chaos vs Order Psychological vs Physiological Nature vs Culture Maturity vs Immaturity And a whole lot of other opposites

[@nathanhoward9556]

Fuck I wish I knew this for the essay I had to do for honors Got a good grade anyway but could've done better

[@KaitlynSchulz]

Yeah did they say that when that poor little kid died when the island was on fire, that there was a "drumroll".

[@TheDude-fx7zx]

Bairhug A

[@sajidah2864]

Can you explain to me how savagery is represented?

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[@freddy346ify]

I thought that this was great, but a little disappointed Roger was not included. Most people say that Roger isn't important until the end, but I believe that means something. If Jack is the foil of Ralph, then Roger is the foil for piggy. Piggy loves civilization, society, and reason the most while Roger loves savagery, murder and torture the most. In the beginning reason reigns and Piggy gets satisfaction from helping Ralph as a reasonable leader while Roger is in the background. However later Jack comes into power along with savagery and Roger has a chance to take his own satisfaction by "helping" Jack hunt, kill, and torture while Piggy is less important in the governance of the boys. When Roger kills Piggy, it symbolizes the triumph of savagery over reason and civilization. Plus he's a sadistic sociopath which is always fun.

[@raspberrycrowns9494]

I'm not a sociopath but Roger is probably my favorite character in the book

[@markobosnjakovic4952]

I thought of Roger as a representation of their sanity and order. at the start he threw rocks at Henry but made sure not to hit him, and throughout the book he became more violent

[@blookmoon]

If my students were a bit older and parents weren't such uptight freaks, I would love to show this in my class. They're actually great lessons for retell/summary. Very cleverly done.

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I showed the crucible one to my am lit class

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"Have you kids lost ya'll damn mind?!" XD

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[@zenexp]

falling is a reoccurring theme in the novel, lol

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[@ZergrushEddie]

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[@WisecrackEDU]

The rock pushed him off the mountain where he fell 40 feet to his death. So, yes, he did.

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I’m studying to become an English teacher, and if I ever have to teach Lord of the Flies I’m showing them this video lol

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[@QuikVidGuy]

I'm quoting, here, so bear with me: "This reminds me of a discussion that I read once which said Lord of the Flies would have turned out a hell of a lot differently if it was a private school of young girls (who are expected to be responsible and selfless instead), or a public school where the children weren’t all from an inherently entitled, emotionally stunted social class (studies have shown that people in lower socioeconomic classes show more compassion for others). Or that the same premise with children raised in a different culture than the toxic and opressive British Empire and it’s emphasis on social hierarchy and personal wealth and status. And that what we perceive as the unchangable truth deep inside humanity because of things like Lord of the Flies and the Stanford Prison Experiment, is just the base truths about what happens when you remove any accountabilty controlling one social group with an overwhelming sense of entitlement and an inability to feel compassion." "I just wanna say that the Lord of the Flies was explicitly written about high-class private school boys to make this exact point. Golding wrote Lord of the Flies partially to refute an earlier novel about this same subject: The Coral Island by R.M. Ballantyne. Golding thought it was absolutely absurd that a bunch of privileged little shits would set up some sort of utopia, so his book shows them NOT doing that." So it might not necessarily be the evil in all of humanity, but the inability of the comfortable to deal with real-world problems.

[@patsfreak]

Calling Simons murder a “cracked out frenzy” has to be the best description of that scene ever

[@DavyWhitezel]

This is one of the best breakdowns of a book I've ever seen. Pourin' out some liquor for you, Simon & Piggy.

[@ArcheryRuleZ]

Ralphs biggest mistake was not beating jacks a** in front of everyone and saying “whoever wants to be chief can fight me 1 on 1”. The group would agree

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[@DNorbs7]

I just found "Thug Notes" and love them, but Piggy doesn't die because he is "thrown off a cliff" during a fight between Jack and Ralph; Piggy is deliberately killed by Roger (who pulls a lever that drops a boulder on Piggy). This is noteworthy/important because it is the most evil action that any of the boys take part in, and illustrates that Roger is perhaps the most malicious character in the entire novel. Thanks for making these. Highly entertaining and informative. Love the Kafka one.

[@TheSkyHazCloudz]

Summer reading assignment: "Write a summary of important symbols." Me: "SPARKY SWEETS, PhD!"

[@sophieo.4527]

I just finished this book five minutes ago. This is just what I needed. I feel an emptiness somewhere. I didn't want it to end.

[@RedH4wk13]

Didn´t Piggy get crushed by a rock rather than fall off a cliff?

[@TheGoldenDunsparce]

Yeah, I thought he was in the tent and they smashed it with a boulder with him inside...

[@jarede9480]

They were on the mountain and roger dropped a boulder on Piggy's head, crushing his head and making him fall of the cliff.

[@bigmanjenkinslittlemanjenk9196]

RedHawk13 both

[@doctortequila5268]

He gets killed by the boulder crushing him, but his body falls off the cliff.

[@brentonmccoy6928]

I read the book recently Rodger accidentally releases a boulder which hits piggy sending him splat leaving his head split open, and drenching the rock in water and blood leaving a pink color.

[@ThePortraitArt]

brilliant channel, surprised by how good the analysis is

[@FridaDina]

I wish I had a teacher like this when I was in school. Great summary and take on a story that I can’t help but see a parallel to how our society has responded to the turmoil of the pandemic and a loss of humanity.

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[@joerybarczyk64]

You could also argue that all three parts of the psychic model are represented in the novel. Jack is impulsive and driven only by a mad, animalistic desire to hunt and kill, making him the id. Piggy is the most intelligent and reasonable kid on the island, and he's influenced by order and civilization, making him the superego. And finally, Ralph represents the ego since he is the person who creates balance between the id and the superego.

[@sophiawilson8696]

I know this 2 years old so what is Roger then?.

[@m.e_.]

we just finished the book in my english class and my teacher told us to watch this video for the LOF quiz tomorrow, this was indeed helpful 😭😂

[@masteroftheassassins]

This story actually gave me a nightmare. I dreamt that I was Simon and I was on my way to tell the others about "The Beast" but before I could tell them anything, they killed me. I still remember there faces and how they wanted to kill me so badly.

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As a private tutor these are invaluable in getting some key points across to young people - as a 60 year old find them hilarious ! Very clever - thanks for doing them ! Bravo 🍺

[@fer5787]

jack=communism, Ralph=democracy, piggy=intelligence & simon=spirituality

[@99batran]

fernando arcos Fascism

[@99batran]

Bryan McCormick actually it's more of a dictatorship, despite fascism being one tho

[@PanicbyExample]

99batran i wouldn't defend the one to justify the other; life is superior to them both; they are the exploitation of children becoming men by those who find themselves superior to both the way that the state is idealized as not holding hands with the nation to where states-rights are somehow an emboldening of the people is so ridiculous... the rights lie with the people, as does the true interpretation of what their life is worth; getting past that gridlock is where the tire can finally hit the road and real proliferation and reconciliation and burden-free breathing be made suggesting a difference between dictatorships and fascism is a rationalization of preference of one over the other in the resignation that life is the sum of those parts, eating and breathing determinism; ain't havin it son

[@heatherclarey9843]

fernando arcos Jack is unbridled savagery and the desire for power.

[@PanicbyExample]

Heather Clarey i'm glad this thread's still alive... i was thinking about it and i wondered could it just be delayed gratification (ralph) versus bottom-feeding (jack) it just seems so unfair how the rest of the cast is almost anonymous except for piggy... i should re-read it but it's like simon is the one other character we see almost arbitrarily, like he's chosen from the herd of anonymous static with no idea how to really think for himself... if jack is savage, how would you characterize the other anonymous kids? is that our past we're trying to improve on? is it all we can hope to be?

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[@shredgardo]

I just noticed that the stick figure for piggy is thicker because he's chubby

[@germ187]

I remember reading this in high school, it was super impactful, especially when Jack took over, those were some dark pages to read as a 15 year old

[@9cake]

Im reading this and I'm in 6th grade lol 😓

[@germ187]

@@9cake lol omg that’s too young to read about Piggy!

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Terrific analysis. OMG, I've fallen in love.

[@Holammer]

I remember writing a book report on this some 20 years ago. I was one of the few that actually read it and the rest of my class called it in by watching it on TV. But I got the last laugh because our teacher recognized the vast amount of differences between the book and film, she handed out grades accordingly and chewed out the cheaters in class. Good times.

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[@xmoore5659]

You forgot to mention the Jesus symbolism within Simon.

[@xXInfinityDiesXx]

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[@RomanPineapple]

I thought Piggy got hit by a rock and then fell off a cliff?

[@Thoughtland]

Yeah he gets stoned to death a few pages before the end of the book. He's a symbolic sacrifice.

[@sofiaa1945]

I haven't seen anyone in the comments talk about piggy's actions that are more feminine in the book when ralph talks about his father as a hero and piggy reflects on his aunt.. almost alluding to how golding felt females were more rational because piggy is seen as the reasoning (goddess Athena) , some context and how Golding used reference to greek gods and goddesses and how piggy dies relates to Prometheus

[@andri041]

Best summary ever

[@farisabdilah241]

Thanks a lot dude, i got a test on this tomorrow and i'm sure as hell going to pass..wooohoo!!

[@OttoVonGarfield]

Wasn't exactly WW2 that the book was set around, if memory of implication serves. Tip: They were worried that the reds would find them first.

[@StormLaker]

+max larsen when I was 16 years old reading this.....all I could think of was the Mad Max movies i'd grown up watching with my sister in the 80's. Especially "The Road Warrior".

[@primarchicarus7099]

They were also worried about nukes

[@jklinders]

It's been more than 20 years since I read this depressing book but yeah, definitely not WWII. There was a post apocalyptic vibe from what little info the kids knew before their plane crashed. they didn't understand what was happening but knew some world ending shit was going down. It was not really stated outright but in the subtext. Wisecrack seems to have missed that this was also a satire of some pretty bad Victorian era books about good British kids being shipwrecked being the perfect boy scouts and surviving well on their camping lessons and keeping a stiff upper lip (wut, wut) against all realism and reason. Frankly that was the book's only redeeming quality to me as I otherwise felt the message was hammered in with all the subtlety of the Hiroshima nuke.

[@julietfischer5056]

It was written shortly after that, I think. English readers would have remembered being evacuated from London and parts of the British Empire. These boys were aboard the plane escaping whatever was happening (or about to happen) and then it crashed on the island. They didn't know if they would be found or by whom.

[@julietfischer5056]

Those crappy books were written for boys, so of course they had happy, jolly, adventures on islands while awaiting rescue. At the end of the book, when our little band of homicidal castaways find an honest-to-God adult, said adult looks at these spear-waving savages and refers to one of those books. The average British reader would have known just how far off target the fellow was.

[@joaquinperez9965]

I showed this to my english teacher apparently the video is worth 5 detentions...

[@CassieGrey21]

My English teacher showed us these kind of videos in class for The Scarlet Letter, The Pearl and Julius Ceasar. Your teacher is uptight, she needs to loosen up.

[@applemusic751]

Angy Olivier My teacher showed me this for To Kill a Mocking Bird, Fahrenheit 451, and Romeo and Juliet

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[@danielgabbay6615]

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[@sarahwoods2883]

Piggy doesn't get thrown off a cliff. He gets hit in a head with a boulder that the twins drop on him then he falls down a cliff.

[@asharmstrong9308]

it was actually Roger that dropped the rock on him

[@sarahwoods2883]

AshArmstrong I stand corrected

[@asharmstrong9308]

that you do

[@Ming64]

It wasn't the twins it was Roger. How do I know? I was that boulder.

[@TTH247]

He didn't actually say Piggy was "thrown" off the cliff, if that's what you're implying.

[@badgerbar3623]

Is it bad I'm using this to study for my finals

[@danparsons5327]

Nah me too xD good luck!

[@ache4cake456]

What about Roger? He was very important to the story.

[@OfficialAliceLiddell]

Not particularly. He was a main character but the primary characters are Ralph, Piggy, Jack and Simon. Roger only becomes a particularly prominent character towards the end. He's kind of equal with characters like Sam, Eric and Percival. They're important for their own reasons but they don't create the real religious, moral or social tensions of the book. They merely contribute to the end of innocence.

[@ache4cake456]

Thanks.

[@matthewlaurence3121]

Roger represents the particular savage, brutal aspect of humanity,as he kills Piggy and Jack is somewhat stunned by it momentarily. One analysis of the story refers to him representing the devil and Jack the feeble qualities of humanity.

[@maddiek.9437]

roger that little sociopath i love him

[@stretcharmstrong3736]

Samneric represented loss of individuality, since later on in the book people always referred to them as both and not Sam and then Eric.

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[@connorveenstra]

This actually helped me understand the book better.

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The8thHorocrux You got it

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reading this book for english class.. this video was actually EXTREMELY helpful

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I was expecting a parody, but this was actually really good. no comedy, just brilliant analysis. brief and to the point. *uprated*

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Could you do The Outsiders by SE Hinton? :(

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As Machiavelli and Nietzsche make clear, only the people who abjure morality are able to provide the security that allows civilization the luxury of aspiring to be good.

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oh my god... i just discovered that i had read this book when i was about 12... I didnt know the title... but i realized that i know the story and i remember reading it now.. hehe, good to have recalled the story though!

[@Whurlpuul]

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[@killer74798]

I thought Simion when he died represented the death of innocence or was i wrong?

[@Lunacyrabbit]

Yeah, pretty much.

[@chinyerekalu6654]

samneric became the loss of innocence when they started to become different people

[@PorkFrog]

simon was a mystic-type figure trying to tell people a truth they couldn't accept ['It's just us!'] 'the death of innocence' was the slow realization by Ralph that his dream of having fun and no adults was just a dream...there'a line in there where Ralph or Piggy says 'people don't help much.' and him or Piggy says they found out 'what people are like'. I don't think any one thing represented losing innocence

[@chinyerekalu6654]

I think you're right... i am currently reading it.

[@kerstinfoster8002]

I think the death of simon represents in a way the death of Jesus. Now I don't know if I am right but there are a lot of biblical references in this book like how the beastie is a snake they thought and the snake convinced Adam and Eve to eat the fruit (the fruit on the trees) on the garden of Eden (the island). Also there were a lot of gross things that represent devilish symbols like pigs, flies, how the boys take care if their business.

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I finished reading this book last Night for a class assignment. This video is a good refresher for me to get my homework done. Thanks thug notes!

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[@LoganWH8]

Piggy didn't fall off a cliff, there was no cliff to fall off of. Roger, jack's lieutenant, in a panic at the thought of losing his power to his followers being persuaded by piggy's talk of reason, drops a boulder on piggy that kills him and smashes the conch. And the naval officer didn't know they were intent on killing Ralph, he just saw the whole island was on fire

[@pablofalcon7055]

Actually, Roger rolled the boulder off the castle rock and it hit piggy, then he fell off the cliff

[@liamkearton9696]

+king of games and anime yeah, roger intentionally killed piggy. cold blood. he also tortured samneric (Sam and Eric, they are just loose their identity as separate people) as well as some other littl'uns

[@theliz7808]

It’s the way my grade depends on this video 💀

[@juy6092]

this was the first video of Thug Notes i have watched, and I had to subscribe. Im reading this and it helped me study for the test. You are awesome. I understand the book better now. Thanks!!

[@cyberocarinaman1196]

PhD in Literature here too. This channel rocks a lot. I really enjoyed it! Thumbs up!!

[@WDB662]

Thank you for this dude

[@ferofax]

GODDAMMIT, FAM, where u literate ass at when we and ma crew were in school, dawg?

[@dimitrimakos6859]

Sounds like you need more skul

[@TheIridesence]

i cannot believe this is actually real stuff. this is great

[@DavidClark-v8h]

I've always been a huge fan of thug notes and I know it hadn't been done in a while but if you ever put another episode out I'd like to see one on Daniel Quinns Ishmael

[@2015Drama]

He actually explains the book a lot better than several High School teachers would have.

[@mozzarella-dipper]

everyone’s saying rip piggy what about rip SIMON 😔💔

[@luchadorito]

so...will write an exam in few days about this book.I didn't even read it because o was too bussy with A song of Ice and Fire.I'm going to do it using knowledge from here---lets see what will be the result!Thug Notes, dont fail me!

[@pranaymittal4266]

***** shreyas no. no. NO

[@MrIgloo12]

This sounds like a book summary from the Boondocks lmao

[@John_R_Jackson_III]

Legendary

[@FrisbeeGirl]

Cliff Notes, gangsta style: you, sir, are PURE GENIUS! I hope you are a teacher! I've read almost all of these books. You are killing it and I am loving it.