Playing A Cheater In Guilty Gear Strive

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Finally running into a confirmed cheater in Guilty Gear Strive... I put on my detective hat and try to figure out ways in matches to identify what my opponent is doing.
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[@LordKnightfgc]

If you're watching this video and are scared of cheaters don't be, it is pretty rare to be honest! Just wanted to post my first experience with one since it wasn't a thing for me before cross play dropped 😅

[@Etholux]

I know what you meant when you said it makes you really doubt yourself for the first few games. When I played against Alter and didn't know he was using scripts, it felt pretty awful, but then I was able to bait out stuff I knew people couldn't react to (randomly placed YRC and Burst that he always reacted to with PRC), and then I got a chance to talk to them as well.

[@abdullahabubakar8344]

I fought one just yesterday, he used Pot to trample me but some interactions just didn't feel right. Checked rating update and the suspicion was correct

[@xSinfulDemisex]

Not going to lie, I fought that person before and stopped playing them because I came to the same conclusion.

[@tamaskovacs-ajtai7489]

I'm in progress of developing an AI agent, that uses only the screen grab and emulated joystick inputs. But my goal is to create a better training partner, wink, wink.

[@stealth3122]

Nah I think it’s really common cause surely all those times I’ve lost my opponent’s been a cheater. Surely…

[@KingAfrica4]

I have fought the cheater Alter and let it be known that even scripts cannot defend against Jack-O

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

W Jack-o player

[@GMMesmerize]

Fuck Alter. I wish I could call them out somewhere they would see it.

[@dalerr18]

Pain

[@-ITH]

Skill issue lol

[@nouvelle147]

Yo same, managed to take two games off of alter

[@000claw]

The most cheaters (outside of FPS games) Ive found were in Tekken7, the low rank cheaters are SOOO easy to identify especially with the inputs recorded. I.e. You can see them pressing forward while their back inputs are also going wild (autoblock overriding their movement), and given the variety of grabs/throws/tackles its pretty funny to see a Green rank Tech the most random Mixed throws Sadly those are the ones I can see, I'm sure theres a TON of scripters running around but I cant complain about every Kazuya that lands a pEWGF

[@DukeApples]

Did you not watch his inputs in a replay? I was fully expecting the proof to be in there.

[@rongill1234]

i fought this same nago and for sure knew he was cheating after a couple games. it just surprises me that people would do that in a fighting game because whats the point in playing then lol

[@animaIpath]

literally lol

[@МаксимГусев-к5ъ]

I know some cheaters who do it for money reasons. They boost accounts or sell in-game goodies, anyway they do something involving real money. That's not the best or most honest way to earn money, but at least that's something I can understand. But picking up a niche genre that is all about self-improvement, personal challenge, and running up scripts... for what? You can't show how cool you are to random teammates - there is no team, and your wins are not yours. Damn in GG you don't even get that shiny Super Giga Diamond Badge! A bizarre way to have fun.

[@freshporkbun]

the existence of cheaters in fighting games genuinely blows my mind. as someone who loves this genre its so apparent that people like this (cheaters) really do not enjoy the genre at all. they just want to win. its pathetic and sad.

[@agiliteaV]

I play a wide range of games and I expect to come across cheaters in games like Overwatch and Siege, but the problem arises in fighting games that it's a lot harder for someone like me who plays GG Strive casually at the 7th-9th floor to tell if someone is a cheater or not. Maybe I have come across one and didn't realize, I've had games in strive where I just owned my lost and assumed my mixup or pressure was bad and to be honest I wouldn't be able to tell if someone is cheating or not.

[@ananmaysahu4563]

ONE of those insane reads I could believe. I've blocked a full mixup string of like 3 or 4 50/50s against positive bonus baiken while playing at home before (complete fluke lmao i think the last one was literally a muscle twitch that saved me, accidentally hit up and that canceled out the down input and made me stand block the yousanzen) But doing it that fast and that consistently is impossible. Even when i read a throw and tech or whatever its usually delayed so you'll see the grab happen for a few frames before getting teched when you watch the replay, this mf literally did it on frame 1 each time.

[@pasdan4985]

I’ve played against alter in the past, and the best tell of a cheater imo is perfectly throwing random 2-4 frame gaps Like I play Sol and if I went for 2K 6S they’d throw perfectly, if I went for BR which also has a gap no throw, that kinda thing

[@chrimace894]

I also fought alter months ago lmao. Fighting a scripting testament was one of the most unfun experiences. The 6ps and reversal grabs were getting to me but ratingupdate already had them flagged as a cheater so I just brushed it aside. Only cheating incident since

[@shin9385]

I've played against a few obvious cheaters that have perfect timing for everything I throw out and I play gio and tend to think of my play style as very random and hyper so for them to block ever single mix up and cross up with perfect defense

[@paz8723]

fighting Alters Ram taught me many bad habits about the game

[@xarezarcs4125]

Cant you check the inputs on the replay?

[@KidDracula666]

Any time someone throws me that consistently out of my pressure, I assume they’re cheating. I remember this guy’s script Sol. Very annoying!

[@nkirmath8621]

I played someone who played the exact same way as this nago here. I thought it was really suspicious how he always "got the read" now. I'm wondering if I hated on him enough since he uses the exact same combos as this guy here. Like he always played the EXACT same way. Honestly, the guy is the reason I hated nago as much as I did. The only difference is that I only ever knew him to play on ps4. The most frustrating thing is during friendlies. He refused to tell me inputs I knew he knew because it was the first character he "mained" hard to say for sure in hindsight, but I've learned my lesson about playing randos on stream.

[@NRobbi42]

Oh, I thought you meant you were just going to play as Nago

[@xcreenplay7264]

As a PC player I can confrim the MOD commuity is treating us well lol

[@pikazerker25]

I know the feeling Consul bro

[@rrichter6781]

I definitely ran into nago cheats on the pc

[@luker8216]

I dunno why these people cheat like this. Like... Okay, you got to Celestial or w/e; everyone can see you are cheating, and you didn't actually DO anything to get there. You ran a script. Good job! The people who cheat in games and feel good about their rating/ranking are pretty pathetic.

[@slablargemeat8954]

12:55 - man I agree. I don't play GGST but I've definitely been feeling this way about the SF6 cracked beta. These dudes are gonna ruin Evo, playing 1000 hours before anyone with integrity even gets to touch the game. Shit's wack. No shonen heart anywhere these days.

[@LordKnightfgc]

I think the way you beat them is play characters that aren't in the crack

[@slablargemeat8954]

@@LordKnightfgc yeah, that's definitely the strat. i think it will be necessary but not sufficient though -- they won't know my character, but i won't know any characters. and they'll have a big head start on tricks and setups and situations with their chosen character. as you say, i will endure. it's still fuckin' wack though.

[@99loolill]

We're screwed

[@Drawfill]

pc literally has mods that turn characters green when theyre plus and red when theyre minus. they're not that obvious too tbh. its def cheating imo.

[@kishurocks]

April first is in a few days

[@axelfuryofficial8459]

Is ARC even caring so see if somwbody is using scripts? If not, sorry but fuck the PC crossplay. On consoles you cannot do that, and I am tired of seeing them in online play. I got tired of cheaters having their characters behaving inhumanely expecially with low ranked characters behaving like top lovel players.

[@DudesPlayingVidGames]

Tekken had it bad for a bit

[@soulwarrior5791]

Crossplay was a mistake

[@AdamJorgensen]

Way to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Pretty sure the majority of the PC base aren't cheating.

[@UnbreakableDoof]

When I find a cheater and I know for sure that's what I'm dealing with, I keep challenging them and then press no buttons for the whole match and repeat until they leave the lobby. They aren't really trying to play anyway, so neither will I. It's the best way I've figured out how to effectively communicate to them "nobody likes you and you should leave".

[@KingAfrica4]

I think of it like a fun challenge, trying to see if I can break their script

[@MetaSynForYourSoul]

​​@@KingAfrica4 that's how I'd be! I try to learn and adapt cuz if you can beat the machine, it can help train you for people (depending on how it plays). Honestly the hardest difficulty in Strive is kind of a joke. I Warm up with at least 3 maniac sets and an arcade ladder run every time I play. The players on floor 6 and 7 are harder.

[@KingAfrica4]

@@MetaSynForYourSoul tbh learning how to beat a cheater is nothing like fighting a player, I just do it for fun. You can’t learn how to mess with their timings or how to properly cycle your options to not become predictable, actually you do the opposite because the script is predictable. I literally have to NEVER go for throws and also never burst or YRC if they have meter

[@LordKnightfgc]

Yeah it was fun to play detective. It isn't so obvious with Nago like on some other chars imo

[@14megasxlr]

Commendable of you to take it for the team.

[@lintecassidy206]

this analysis was super interesting in terms of thinking about optimal play and what human limits are + what can be expected from people/what will work on anyone sometimes no matter how good they are. I think as it stands, you're able to take an interesting and valuable angle and push it to the point that it's really clear to anyone watching, even if they don't have the same level of insight, that this person is consistently making correct choices in a way that humans can't do. and also, you could've put together a montage of those absurd 6Ps alone and I would believe you because that was mad sus lmao

[@MommysGoodPuppy]

auto 6p is and auto throw/tech are the most fucked up cheats

[@videojamesvidj6742]

In 15+ years I've gotten good at spotting suspect behavior in FPS games, it's really fascinating to see it in fighting games to be honest.

[@rabbyd542]

Same for me. I never even knew you could cheat in a fighting game.

[@xLordxHades]

I don't play enough online Strive, nor am I good enough to know if this is something I've run into, but I've certainly seen it in shooters to a rampant degree. It upsets me for the same reasons; i'm just out here trying to improve at a thing I enjoy and people have to ruin it for what? How does cheating to win and cheating people out of winning feel good? I just imagine they're the type of people who find entertainment by being annoying or ruining someone else's day. Despicable individuals.

[@-ITH]

There was a HC player who got banned sometime ago for cheating, not sure how they find this stuff out, outside the obvious, maybe looking at the inputs in training mode? Uremixshido or something like that, I can't remember the name. Then we have alter, who openly lets people know to avoid his bot. Haven't watched all of this (yet) but I agree wholeheartedly on the L/R mix being the best. It's one of the reasons I don't always take the HKD.

[@Klemkee]

What's up with this Alter person? They're cheating but warning people about their cheating? What?

[@gavinator70]

@@Klemkee Im guessing he has a robot character that he designed for whatever purposes, either for entertainment, research, or content, and he openly tells people to avoid fighting his bot if they care about their floor rank or fair fights.

[@khhnator]

@@Klemkee probably a programmer just playing around with the thing he made. that's pretty fair in that situation imho

[@dalerr18]

Can be a fun challenge in Celestial since you can’t derank. Alter is flagged as a cheater on rating update anyway so losses aren’t reflected there.

[@Dr3am9553]

with replay viewer you can just look at their inputs. HC is bound to have some input differences due to sheer amount of special moves So if inputs are too clean? repetitive over multiple matches selected over a random period? probably a script. Not sure how they did it. But this is how i would check

[@ABASCMR]

It would've been nice to see the replays with inputs turned on as well. This is usually a big red flag for scripts/bots. Players will never have absolutely perfect inputs. Little wobbles, fuzzy blocking, OS'ing defence, ect will show up for a player, but typically not for a bot.

[@brcasalino]

I played against 2 cheaters in this game, I know exactly what you mean about being down after the first set. It was extremely demoralizing and by the end I was doubting my skill at the entire game lmao

[@2001coolchemist]

As someone whose sole FGC experience is online, I see a lot of lag switchers and it sucks. Their combos come and everything is nice and smooth. I get a hit and all of a sudden I'm doing 14 frames of lag. THEN, when I somehow manage to string enough combos through the lag to win, boom, rage quit before the final KO. I'm not tech-savvy enough to see how to penalize lag switchers, but I wonder why fighting games don't penalize rage quitters. If a match drops because it was your connection that fell off, ok match loss for you no problem. If BLS was able to do it on Dueling Network, I don't see why the big name companies wouldn't be able to. It also goes with the spirit of in-person fighting. Obviously no disconnection in person but say if I'm playing in a tournament and my controller presses the start button by mistake, it's a loss for me. Funny is once I got a lag switcher on casual as well, I guess bad habits die hard.

[@larquefausse3623]

There's not enough for to really condemn him as a cheater. It's very possible that he's a Nago sweatlord that has seen a lot of Baiken's bullshit from tournaments videos and personal experience. That said, these reports of cheaters poisoning the experience is truly saddening. I knew it was going to happen when PC would be allowed in crossplay. I had some hope that maybe Strive would be just niche enough to not attract cheaters. Moreover it really dampens the prospect of the FGC of finally switching over to PC.

[@redboss5429]

well even though its a cheater atleast ur getting matches online... strive servers are rough af rn

[@dragoslove]

If you haven't seen it, check out "The Wiggle That Killed Tarkov" to see how prevalent it can become in some games. With the rise of AI, I'm very concerned that new methods of cheating will start cropping up outside of shooters.

[@saladdregen7753]

Hi, new baiken player on xbox. I've seen a handful of videos and you're already such a big influence on me getting better and learning new shish with her

[@inxplotch]

I played against this same nago about a month ago. It was a very bizarre experience getting constantly checked by his extremely random supers and grabs. I didnt realize he was a cheater until i checked rating update. I also faced Alter a few weeks ago, and they were playing goldlewis with similar behavior. Im not exactly upset by them, because theres nothing to lose to them other than a little pride, but I wish there was an easier way to know in game before i face them outside of checking rating update before hand. Actually when I faced Alter he wasn’t even tagged as a cheater on rating update then (he is now), and I had to be told that he was a pretty infamous cheater

[@catnekokot]

Have you checked the command input log? Anything weird there?

[@lukscarvalho2769]

As a 3 weeks old Strive player, when I saw the title I thought " YES! NAGO IS A GAMESHARK CHARACTER INDEED"! Oh boy I'm a scrub 😂

[@OldManSilencer]

I used to love fighting tool assisted's bots in SF4 and SF5. I personally enjoy fighting cheaters it doesn't happen that often but I like the solve a puzzle aspect of them because often it's got a gap in what it can look for or something that it false flags and if you do find something like that you gain a new gameplan than you would against a player. I've played a handful of cheaters in Strive like 3 different players and have gotten games on them just because they do commit to things you have to not run offense really and look to just score all your wins on defense and neutral since it's the only places that they commit to things that are beatable really. I don't think it makes me a better player to play them since it's more of a mini game and finding a way to boil the game down into the handful of relevant interactions and trying to beat them there and even doing that I can't really get more than 1/10 games just because it is so skewed.

[@MommysGoodPuppy]

yeah i actually like fighting them sometimes too, usually theyre still easier to beat than some top 100 player

[@jscriber100]

Knowing what senarios Baiken should win and those that shes guaranteed to win to this extent is awesome. It makes me think that its best to have one main so you'll gain the char knowlege twice as fast, but thats subjective. But FGs got it easier than FPS, its extremely hard to tell when someone is using aimbot or if their just sicknasty at the game.

[@MommysGoodPuppy]

actually its not really hard to tell if someone has aimbot, unless they miss some shots on purpose just seeing that they never miss shots will tell you its not human aim

[@AdamJorgensen]

So....my takeaway from this is avoid anyone playing as GG Player 🙂

[@vstalbain]

The way I know I'm playing against a cheater is when they never, ever, ever fail to defend my oki option even once. Like, no matter what crazy shit I do. A good example in your video was when you went for a late airdash and he did wakeup 6P and caught it. Like, yeah - if I was fighting a mashy type, they might feasibly do that, and it would have worked; but that same player would also get blasted by basic oki options. Likewise, they're always blocking basic oki options, you can occasionally get away with risky stuff. But when someone always blocks the basic stuff AND the crazy shit at a 100% success rate? Yeah right.

[@Ashragi]

I didn't see anything that wasn't possible for someone to just get lucky. If this guy IS a cheater, then he's using much much worse scripts than Alter (the famous cheater). Alter would never get baited into throw tech and whiff throw, and more importantly, you were allowed to actually burst when they had 50 meter. There's some other stuff too that are just noticeably SIGNIFICANTLY less clean than Alter's gameplay. I mean, that said Alter didn't care about hiding cheats, he had his discord in his r-code and was happy to chat about it if you messaged him. Maybe this guys that cracked, or maybe he's trying to sneak by.

[@FlyXcur]

It's very very strange when you only get a hit on a punish or a counter if you can't mix or get a stray hit you definitely got a cheater on your hands

[@DrgoFx]

You're making me very sus about this one Testament I played that consistently did round start FS and then if I tried to beat it with a jump in, they'd 6P the moment they were active, it was ridiculous how consistent they were at it especially because I wasn't doing jump in round start that often. We played 6 matches, and I think they did the 6P 3/3 times.

[@nemoisnobody]

What's the point in cheating in a fighting game? The fun in fighting games comes from improving yourself. If you hate self improvement, this genre just isn't for you. You're also lying to yourself.

[@Fopwn]

Dude I think I just played and reported this guy in celestial today and then I found this lol. Same Nagoriyuki. I play Ky. First set he whiffed 2k really close, I went to whiff punish but was a few frames off. He supered immediately. I thought, damn that shit was nice. Then I noticed that his IBs were really good anytime I hit 2k, 2d, Dire Eclat. Thing is, he started IB'ing my Dire Eclat no matter how I delayed it and he never missed a single one. And if I delayed enough for a grab or a kick, that would always come out and beat me. So I tested this, because nothing else was being IBed. Next time I got a knockdown I set up Charged Stun Edge and for my oki I hit majorly delayed IB at a random timing while he was in block stun. I hit him with Dire eclat and he IB'ed just the Dire Eclat and nothing else. Then I started doing delayed offence from range. Anytime he could mash 5k on wakeup to beat me, he would. But anytime I hit him meaty, he supered. The more I played the more obvious it got. Perfect prc's anytime he whiffed a grab. Perfect PRC-OS on any hit even in a scramble. I ran up dp, he grabbed it. Anytime I prced in his face, then jumped to bait throw, his 6p came out right after I left the ground, not on my way down. Grabbing me as soon as I was in range when running up in neutral, but never throwing if I ran up then fd'ed out of throw range. Anonymous name, Hidden Steam profile, weak.

[@soulfire67]

Tekken 7 has a really bad problem with cheaters (as well as rage quitters and save scumming ranks but thats another issue), and its so obvious to see lmao. They'll be backdashing and mid backdash you'll see them input low parry (pressing down forward, or 3, when you see a low) MID backdash, or they'll throw break with 100% consistency. And sure Tekken as a game is kinda designed for that stuff to be on the cusp of reactable, but it still is really sus. Like in the input viewer you'll see them pressing throw tech even if your throw whiffs, or see them input low parry even if you intentionally whiff a low from full screen.

[@Ripper-xy2nd]

Analyzing replays can help. I played an axl who frame 1 time stopped any forward movement or buttons and frame 1 rcd to bait bursts, SUPER obvious. People like this nago arent as obvious but you can definitely find out with a lil sleuthing.

[@flyingpenguin9938]

Ngl this is kinda cool. It’s scummy behavior 100% but if they weren’t used in the ranked aspect of the game, I would 100% just try my luck against them and see if I could beat them. Too bad they’re not built with that purpose lol

[@KatkaDavai]

my OD strat for cheaters in arcsys games from the BBCP era is to kara cancel very punishable normals into FD/Barrier & their whiff punishing script will try to hit nothing constantly

[@NobiSan.]

Oh y’all probably not familiar with “SF4 :AE” the mods on that game that allow you to block everything, see others inputs, and auto combos, what a time 😂

[@xReisk]

I dont see the point on cheating on Strive, like wtf do you get from that man? I can understand other games like Dota 2, Apex, etc... But Strive?? Whats the fk point? I dont get it man, some people are just way to stupid.

[@AluinKali]

I just started playing the game and this was super interesting. Personally I wouldn’t even know if I played a cheater because my lack of game knowledge. But then I doubt cheaters are on as low in the Tower as I am :D. Really interesting to see you break this down though. Thanks!

[@yep8673]

Cheating like this is really common in Tekken ranked. There they're actually quite smart with it though, they'll have their cheats block lows only a certain percentage of times like say 70% to avoid being totally obvious and they'll turn it off and on mid match to throw you off. Of couse there still people using obvious macros and whatnot but sometimes it can be hard to spot a cheater.

[@ADxTygon]

I really dont understand the point of cheating in fighting games like this Whats the point? Once youre at celestial why do you keep going? Its not even like team-based games where you have the excuse of “oh i need this to win because my team is bad” Youre basically just admitting “i am bad and do not want to improve”, so why play at all?

[@kid_vicious9805]

I played against a Faust was getting mixed from Sunday to Sunday perfect blocks and responses ... then I started doing goofy things to see if they would catch it ie: bursting for no reason... wiffing grabs in close proximity... anything ... still getting smoked... the icing on the cake I'm getting comboed n my cat knocks the cord out of the ps (I'm using hit box) ...the combo STOPS ... the instant it disconnects the one time I'm not actively defending myself... maybe an input reader as well? But I said wow people really do this 😂😒

[@Shin_Murakamii]

this is getting pretty common tbh and its very sad, 2 days ago i think? i probably fighted 2 cheaters, one ky and a millia, but this millia dude was insane, in the first round i destroyed with almost a perfect but right after that round, he reacted to everything i throw and even the moments did air combos he BLOCKED my burst in middle of combos everytime and i really was pissing me off :/ im strugglin a lot trying to reach floor 10 and stay there, i really enjoy the online and fight skill ppl but its sad to see that in high floor you can say if really fight someone skilled or just a cheater

[@noboty4168]

There's no money to be made in this game, unlike COD. Especially in the tower. Why even cheat there? Why cheat in a fighting game (not that it is ok in any other game), of all games?

[@sizzlinplate9501]

Bro I got so excited to touch Celestial, then this Ky player called "GG Player" showed up and immediately decimated me lol... Really sad day

[@tabkg5802]

Strive isn't even that bad with cheaters. I don't remember a single one I played since release. T7 on the other hand is atrocious. Cheaters there are blatantly obvious. The funniest shit is when they start blocking lows from halfscreen away

[@wildmonkeycar]

Cheating happens everywhere, it's just that console is harder to develop cheats for, so there are a lot fewer people who do cheat, there. That said, I've only heard of a few cheaters in Strive, so it's certainly not some epidemic to be concerned about. They'll get theirs, don't worry

[@Reitsuchi]

6:43 honestly this one moment seals them as a cheater. has meter, no burst on baiken, doesn't forward RRC for the kill; bot doesn't look at healthbars. how could a human player defend so godlike but not go for lethal when presented it??

[@olishonick]

As a console player I dont like playing pc players. Your not only playing at a disadvantage you also have the thought "is this a cheater?" at the back of your mind.

[@axllomein7215]

Honestly, it seems like the PC players are stronger than console players to the point where you have to wonder. With some of them, it definitely feels like they'd have to be cheating to have the reaction time they do. Either way, I just can't understand cheating, especially with competitive games. Do PC players have an actual advantage just because they are on PC?

[@olishonick]

@@axllomein7215 Usually have stronger setups so better connection and have a couple less frames of input delay then ps4/5. Being online just compounds the issue. Even playing offline on pc feels different then ps.

[@axllomein7215]

@wizardswordplay Thank you, I figured it was something along those lines. Even on local console there can be a difference when using wired controllers as far as input delay, it can definitely skew the game a little.

[@KSabot]

Do inputs not show anything of note? I was surprised you didn't have them up in the review.

[@kakashi-__-vi]

I can see that he’s cheating and LK mentioned something about a “script” which as a console player I have no clue what it is. So wtf is a script

[@kirara159]

Relatable, every single time I lose, it's vs a no good dirty cheater I tell ya!

[@theetrip199]

I'm kinda surprised you didn't bring up the JasonRiot stuff

[@F1ng0riginal]

I feel like you should have turned on inputs just to show he's not fuzzying either

[@loweyethan]

Im actually super glad you made this video LK, cause i just started playing strive and ive always been the friend that was a little better than the rest of my friends and ive certainly noticed through my own games and checking replays theres a few people that feel like there not even playing almost as if theres a bot or a Script auto playing for them and it feels super cheezy and almost demoralizing too try and get better when you know others are blatenly cheating at these higher levels. And cross platform is huge and matching with pc players is out of your control and easy too do which is kind of a bummer when most people are genuinly trying too improve at this amazing fighting game.

[@khhnator]

this is actually a great thing, despite the fact there is literally no encouragement what so ever to just win, and is not like a aimbot where you at least moving the character and pretending you are playing, it is literally just watching... Strive is big enough that someone made a bot for it.

[@memedealer5556]

The GG player name tag is they guy who makes the pirated version.

[@raginghunter6943]

Happens a lot in tekken and its obvious if you have been playing for a while

[@eh4372]

Fighting games it is rare. Fps games is always full of cheating

[@joewilson6211]

GG player trolls the shit out of me but beat ass a few times😅😅😅

[@Mrkrillis]

I swear I fought a Millia the other day that was doing this....

[@galtar862]

in the case of that mixup, he also stands to block the frame before the YZS hits- very sus

[@CineGoodog]

The worst part of this is that is not something easy to detect if you are against a good player. Those scripts can be deactivated and the guy can take control of the character at any time. A really good player can use this by activating on some critical moments and playing normally for most of the match. Online tournaments on fightning games will have to come with something new if they want to stop that. Maybe a cam showing your control and hand similar on what they do to validate some speedruns.

[@KingAfrica4]

Ngl, it’s pretty easy to tell if someone is using a script especially you check in the replays afterwards

[@Kenpachi_White707]

I don't know if he's cheating, but some people just have great reactions. Plus this guy might have a friend that mains baiken. There are monsters that don't compete competitively.

[@KingAfrica4]

This guy is 100% cheating, there are obvious tells of you fought one before.

[@wlatol6512]

Where is this math history tab located? Is it in-game or on the web somewhere? Don't think that I ever faced any cheater, basically cuz I am 4th floor lol, but I'd like to check all the interesting stats....

[@LordKnightfgc]

Ratingupdate.info

[@VladPsyche]

9:00 If you look at him blocking Youzansen in this moment, you can clearly see that after hit stun he is crouching before youzansen blades comes out and when blades comes out he immediately stand up to block it. Same is in 8:21 but in 9:00 it looks funny

[@ulyssesfister3735]

The block at 7:45 is also absurd, he is crouch blocking for a singular frame and react blocks the overhead.

[@Hey1426]

I don't mind Cross-play but, I just wish there was an option to turn it off. Fortnite as this option and so does COD. I don't understand why you can't on fighting games.

[@SnappySanad]

There is an option to turn it off

[@coolfish420]

There is an option to turn it off, but good luck finding people to fight.

[@recordingonline325]

So basically you can’t beat a really hard AI ? New to fighting games and mad confusing

[@beaf3887]

You cant beat a really hard AI in most of the games tbh.

[@joewilson6211]

Cheaters are Ps5 players too😢😢😢

[@hcaelBBleach]

So Pc players arent "the best" got it lolllll

[@yubeluchiha]

I played against a pc cheater on my channel

[@OpenMynd82]

Console gamers...Lag switch...PC GAMERS ...scripts to manipulate the base game... all just to have an online title that says GOD...then meet them in person and play a set with them and they get washed... it's pathetic really...

[@imskar3441]

I remember I was in the stream when I asked who was the best Nago you fought you said gg player but I could tell from your answer that you was questioning it. So it’s funny that you made a video on this guy.

[@sinanjustein117]

Just fought a "GG Player" Pot who IB'd every single blockstring that started with Ky's 5K or cS. Did many other suspect things like PRCing only whiffed command grabs and doing many layered OS's. His gameplan wasn't even that structured or anything and would do low level stuff like not spacing meaty garuda correctly

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

I didn't think about how PC cheating interacts with everything else with crossplay

[@taylortierney6542]

I dunno if I've ever fought a cheater in fighting games, but I've played a decent amount in various games over the years. Its just a thing you have to deal with playing multiplayer games on PC, and I've never really been off put on a game much by their existence, although I have often gotten annoyed at how a dev will attempt to handle them. Beating cheaters, when possible in the game with whatever cheats they're using, is always incredibly satisfying, probably even more so than a normal fight (say, in a game like Dark Souls, which has had cheating endemic to its PC releases, maneuvering a cheater with infinite health to a part of the map where i can knock them off, rendering their infinite health meaningless)

[@shaldrake]

then why not show inputs?

[@Shurmash]

I have never seen a Nago move like that. I knew something was up before you even said something. I'm like "When did he get so fast and accurate all of a sudden!?". I mean what do you get out of cheating though? There's no satisfaction in doing that. I don't see the point.

[@NaoyaYami]

Message to console players from pro-PC players (at least when the GPU prices aren't astronomical -.-): we dislike cheaters as much as you do and I hope you will keep thinking that even with occasional cheater encounter, you will focus on the brighter side of larger player base in general. We also want these games (not to say the genre itself) to be successfull. I don't play Strive, but I'm looking forward to meeting you all in GBFV Rising once it releases!

[@Spooks_FGC]

I found a sol player who was able to air grab me off of every single jump in without fail, even mid block string. I hope he was cheating, cause that was to crazy to be real.