Lords of The Fallen Review PC - No Spoilers Review LOTF 2023

[@Fextralife]

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[@LordofTheFallenOST]

it's OST also really good see my name friends

[@Charok1]

Confused because you said other games have done combat better, then said this mimics souls the best. Combat is the most important thing about souls, so when Fallen feels off to you that means deep sale to me. Maybe they will release a PC demo.

[@kolbywilliams7234]

The game is great, but I will say that the texture/graphics are not loading properly on XBSX. It’s not crashing for me, but I’m getting tons of pop-in and many NPC faces are textureless. It’s sad. I hope it gets patched soon.

[@TheJols]

@@Charok1 what made dark souls and other from games so good in my opinion is also explorationz level design and jiat being unique and inspired. Combat is the most important yes. Ive notived non from souls-likes usually are lacking on great enemy design and enemy variety.

[@jacobsalcido5891]

Every shooter game mimics each other's mechanics. Let this be the same. Innovation is for all, not just the 1. I personally love this style of play for an action rpg and really hope this style never stops.

[@Monnisti]

Exactly. Just innovate this perfect core we have and keep souls games coming

[@pla6ue]

THANK YOU! So sick of people whining about GOOD things lol

[@alejandrobagg2591]

Facts and nothing but, souls likes are the new fad. Soon they will be a normal thing everywhere. We are pretty much already there lol, lies of p was phenomenal. Not this... it's time for us to accept it as a subgenre and move on lol.

[@Mbk10298]

@@alejandrobagg2591 Wasn't interested in Lies of P but am in this. And after watching gameplay for both I definitely prefer this style (dark souls vibe) more. To each their own though.

[@douglasduda9826]

ID like less NEEDING to use the lockon system...more like Dragons Dogma...would be a big improvment.

[@gamersgalore6534]

I pre ordered the game simply to support the developer. I know the price will drop pretty soon like most games but us fans need to support these developers so that they continue to make such interesting games. I would hate to see more ubisofted games further flooding the market than already needed. Will Fextralife cover SpiderMan 2 too ? The leaked review says its one of the games out there.

[@Axemania21]

Crazy how we get two stellar soulslikes in the span of a month

[@davidwhite206]

What is the other one?

[@chongyun7993]

@@davidwhite206lies of pi

[@nifritleviathan1859]

​@@davidwhite206 lies of P

[@Alihussein8]

@@nifritleviathan1859lies of P is Buns and way too overhyped.

[@oilpanjesus4832]

fell and bumped your head@@Alihussein8

[@greayeve3035]

Good Morning Fextra. I just wanted to say real quick that I appreciate that you put the numbers of different categories and then gave the sum total at that end. I hate that reviewers have gotten away from that because it was such a great system. I enjoyed the review as well. Now I'm off to your wiki to see what armors I should go after lol. Thanks again.

[@Fextralife]

Thank you!

[@LordofTheFallenOST]

the game ost also really good in my channel

[@definitelyadarkangel9225]

​@@Fextralifehey I was wondering if the spells on the website currently are all the ones in the game?

[@Fextralife]

Yes those are all the spells

[@FosterC144]

Ive played this game for about 110 hours now and honestly its a really great game. I like it just as much as any game from the souls series.

[@bewee]

I was debating playing. Lies of P was not for me, but Demon, Dark souls, Elden Ring are my games. They are all I want to play for the most part. BG3 w Also earned a place in my heart. From and Larian know how to make games.

[@leebweeb6008]

If you want a more traditional souls experience with ds2 esque vibe/DS3 speed then lords is for you.​@@bewee

[@Phil2Diamond]

All I needed to hear was magic damage is well implemented, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND EFFORT YOU PUT INTO THIS VIDEO HOMIE ! :)

[@MundusFate]

yeah its mechanics are unique. btw LOTF theme is really epic you could listen at our ch :yougothis

[@Kastor0311]

Yea the spells I've seen look incredible

[@MildsandThatYac]

I second this message

[@definer0]

And then barely show any of it

[@RemingtonSteel]

Spells felt kinda stiff in elden ring. They were implemented perfectly in Kingdom of Amalur. Looks like magic in this game is a little more fluid

[@MangyB4033]

Thanks for always offering a level-headed critique in your reviews. One of the most professional youtubers out there.

[@MR-zt1hh]

the delusion has to be on purpose

[@moeamleh9555]

Within a span of a 2 months I’ve platinumed FF16, lies of P, AC Mirage and today starting LoTF. Can’t wait !!

[@toothgrinder2760]

Damn, puttin’ in work son!

[@Fiilis1]

Damn. That is respectful achievement for incel.

[@MrAlucinor]

I find it so strange that so many journalist game reviewers are deducting points for technical performance when they didnt do so for other games like Elden Ring/ Jedi Survivor?

[@dustygearhead]

I know right. Hopefully these things get fixed. Just beat lies of p a couple of days ago. I’m ready for this game and then Alan wake 2 in a couple weeks!

[@tomasdelcampo2]

99% of the time performance or bugs are not an issue for me, feels crazy to deduct points for it unless a game is in a really bad state but even with those games I personally have like no issues

[@lez075]

From Software can do anything and reviewers will lick their ass anyway. Elden Ring is repetitive af after 30-40 hours, all the dungeons that are not part of the main story look the same, same enemies with different skins, the grass popping up 5 meters away from your character, and yet nobody talked about it, 9/10 or 10/10 everywhere.

[@andrzejjas374]

Trolls fromsoftware are working 😂

[@unknownuser3000]

Not a major publisher, hexworks didn't pay them off for reviews like a billion dollar company would.

[@jaybuck12321]

Lies of P is gonna be a hard game to beat. That was the best soulslike I’ve ever played besides the souls games themselves

[@ringofdreal1374]

Playing Lies of P's demo actually made me play the souls games.😂😂

[@rhysparremore296]

Im stuck on the last boss currently have around 20 attempts it's hard as shit most bosses only took 1 or 2 tried. Lots of fun weapons and abilities tho great game

[@Storm-lj2nq]

@@rhysparremore296using fire helped me a lot

[@SeniorTooth1472]

I thought the same and then I play LOTF I love both to death but the exploration and level design is so much better in LOTF it makes me intrigued in the world were lies of p combat is better but it can sometimes feel like your walking through very linear levels with some minor short cuts and loops

[@joshnizzle]

I loved lies of p. Considering this one now. Ever play it?

[@arrestedshrimp]

This game is some serious eyecandy, the level of detail of the environments is breathtaking, like the rocky mountain areas you can even clearly see all the little tiny cracks and shadows even from a super far distance. Absolutely blew me away.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Meh. Scaffold, rocks, planks, mushrooms, zombies, dogs, and dudes in armor with weapons as far as the eye can see.

[@jordanmcminn998]

The previews showed all the unique stuff. The rest is generic dark fantasy ripped straight from any dark souls

[@anthonycoppola5613]

I am about 10 hours in and really like the game for the most part. My Huge issue is the Lock-on system. It is bad. And when you are getting overwhelmed with enemies it makes it really difficult. Especially when you push to roll one way and it rolls you off a cliff. Great Review!

[@insatiablesage3259]

Just don't lock on so much! Not needed

[@antonytomas1]

Crazy how people won't pay $60 for an 8 or 9/10 game every year but they'll pay over $1,000 for the "newest" iPhone every year and a half

[@Tobi9753]

The reason is that there are more games to buy this year so we prefer sales. But yeah changing phone so often is crazy for me.( I’m still rocking IPhone 6s which I bought for 450$ in 2018)

[@andrewgr144]

People can't (or more probably just won't) do basic math. If you pay $60 for a game, and play it for 120 hours, you're paying $.50/hour for high quality, interactive entertainment. I do understand that there are some people for whom $60 is a large sum of money, so of course they need to worry about factors other than just how economically efficient it is. But for those of us that can drop $60 a few times a year without feeling it, I just don't see how anyone can consider a game that they play for 100+ hours to be over-priced, or decide they need to wait for it to be on sale.

[@huambo]

Games are good value. Back in 1993 Sonic The Hedgehog on Megadrive (Genesis in USA) was £50

[@Cewix]

this game is not worth $60 and it's not 8 or 9/10. I wonder how fextra could rate it at 8.8 with isseus he addressed, bad and clunky combat in soulslike is not acceptable and he didn't even mension horrible camera movement in boss fights, clunky animations and many others for me it's 5.5/10 max and im just curious how revewiers can rate it more than 7

[@quintenskevin]

I buy none of those shit

[@DuggyDarko]

My copy arrived this morning. I love it. Its a great game.

[@Darkholow]

Can't wait to dive in tomorrow..thanks for the review! :D

[@aettic]

I'm so happy to see all of the love this game is getting AND all of the very honest feedback. It's incredibly encouraging to see the devs taking action on feedback quickly. I don't see a ton of marketing in general, but it felt like this game had less marketing than larger titles (like Elden Ring, for instance), but the 2 week "Creator" early access period was very cool to see, because several content creators (yourself included) put out thorough and honest videos showcasing the triumphs and letting us know about the various (minor) issues. I really like the game, and some times while I'm playing I forget that it isn't a FROM SOFT game. Sure, it doesn't quite stack up in the same respect in ALL corners, but there are some areas (such as graphics and visuals) where I think it actually surpasses FROM SOFT games (excluding the Blue Point DS remake which is just astoundingly gorgeous, but locked to PS5). I think in some ways this game has more of a unique visual identity than Dark Souls or Demon's Souls, as well. Of course, a game like Bloodborne or Sekiro have their own incredibly unique visual identities, and I think Lords of the Fallen is on part with those in terms of its face.

[@petershahan533]

As much as i trust fextralife channel, I don’t agree with them in this review. I finished the game last week and didn’t enjoy it at all . The game has a huge problem with enemies locations and grouping at you. Example in Souls game i learn every enemy move set to defeat him . But in this game because every time i face a huge group of enemies i just smash buttons. I reached the point I ignore the enemies and just run the level. Second the bosses were too easy and disappointed. The have a slow and little move set with huge hp.

[@ShadowBrad727]

Better reviews than so many other mainstream channels, been a follower since your GOD LIKE Elden Ring build, you have been doing an incredible job, as well as the wiki page, I am definitely going to pick this game up, solely thanks to you! Keep up the good work!!

[@manticore3586]

Yeah an most of the mainstream reviews complained about the second half getting to hard…imagine downgrading a souls like for being too hard…smh they just need to git gud! That’s why I trust Fextra and not them!

[@toothgrinder2760]

⁠@@manticore3586 I remember mainstream gaming outlets saying Jedi: Fallen Order was “too hard,” and they weren’t even playing on hard- they were complaining that it was too hard on easy. 99% of these Journo’s aren’t gamers, they just took any job they could get in order to climb the Iegacy corpo ladder.

[@Evanz111]

Great review! But you mentioned how you felt like it would compare to Lies of P at the beginning of the review, only to not draw any more comparisons in the rest of it. This only really affects me as I was trying to work out which one of the two I should get!

[@joeggrant406]

Same, I thought I missed something, was so confused

[@victisomega4248]

I think it's a bit unfair to them both to try and weigh them against each other. Their inspirations come from different games.... Lies of P has it's roots buried in Bloodborne and Sekiro, where as Lords of the Fallen appear to take inspiration from Dark Souls and Demon Souls. I'd say if Dark Souls is more your speed maybe keep taking a look at some streams for Lords and see how it does in the coming days, but if you liked Bloodborne and Sekiro for their gameplay and/or artstyle? Lies of P is an easy pick. Just remember to have an open mind about them, derivative or inspired doesn't mean clone, they're going to have their own identity and soul. Cheers and happy Souls-ing!

[@scaryhours2220]

I highly recommend Lies Of P. The rave reviews across the board are not an accident. The game is such a beautifully realized world which takes place in the gorgeous Belle Epoque Era of France. From the music to the combat to the lore the setting it is a 10/10 imo and is the closest that we have and probably will ever get to a Bloodborne sequel. But I feel the most important issue here is performance, and I have seen over a dozen videos of large and small channels showing and telling the awful problems that LOTF is suffering from. And this is on PC and console. But what is funny is that every video I've seen has literally said they did not have one single issue with Lies of P. So just food for thought 😎 cheers 👍

[@jotaiyokai]

If you liked Bloodborne more than the Souls games you would probably like Lies of P more. They’re both really good and I think it’s worth it to pick up both eventually

[@RansomTRabbit]

Lies of P runs great, gorgeous, amazing lore but little replayability. Lords of the Fallen has the potential to run great, looks beautiful, great lore, coop repeatability.

[@Yer_Da_]

I'm surprised. Lies of P seems like a far more faithful soulslike aside from the linearity

[@tigerex777]

This game makes me realize how polished and well optimized Lies of P is. LOTF feels like Bethesda tried to copy Dark Souls 3 with all the usual Bethesda jank. The crazy thing is the developers of Lies of P have only developed one game before and it was a crappy MMO and then they come up with a game like Lies of P, while the developers for LOTF already tried to make copy-cap Souls games and they were pretty garbage. Makes me wonder how much more the developers for Lies of P will improve with their next game.

[@R4G3Quitting101]

I don't see how that's better than a company that has also only made 1 other souls-like. And CI has made original games that didn't rely on just copying already existing formulas

[@100yrs7]

Sounds like you just came to the comment section to show how deep the back of your throat goes for lies of p.

[@ashen_ofc]

The devs are different than the 2014 lotf

[@thrashhhhh]

You massively understated the performance issues. It’s not just minor framerate drops; it stutters nonstop in areas and often freezes for seconds at a time. The game has also been corrupting save files. None of the “patches” to date have fixed anything.

[@RoyalGuardGeine]

It's always weird to hear complaints about games having some performance issues after Elden Ring got crowned Game of the Year while being one of the most unapologetically lazily poorly-optimized games that came out these past years. It's still locked at 16/9 ratio, still capped at 60fps (and will even ban you if you dare try to remove this cap), still often drops to 40 or lower in the open world no matter your rig, still has no upscaling options with one of the worst Ray-Tracing rendering out there... And yet other games with slight issues before launch devs are commited to fix or improve are frowned upon.

[@andrzejjas374]

Trolls fromsoftware are big deal 😂

[@CheckmateStallioN]

Cant spell IGNorant without IGN. Fromsoft shills galore. Not only that but graphically ER looks like a joke.. it looks like it was stuck in the ps360 era. I bet From cut them one pretty ass cheque lol

[@tetermc]

It's laughable to suggest Elden Ring's technical problems are anywhere near as bad as this game.

[@ItheauthorityI]

Because it wasn't distracting to those reviewers. And I can relate because it wasn't distracting to me either. The only frame drops I noticed on console were during the Radagon fight.

[@RoyalGuardGeine]

Turns out the game is awful. I don't crash like many others seem to, but I do have frame drops and I wonder how unplayable it can be without DLSS and frame generation. But the main issue is the level design. It's horrendous and annoying like nothing else. It reminds me of AVGN's rant on Ninja Gaiden with the infinitely spawning enemies, the needlessly tight platforming, the meaningless life bar and so on.

[@CastisV]

I liked this a lot more than Lies of P, mainly because it reminded me of Dark Souls more. Just played through it on Game Pass and it was well worth it.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

99% of comments: wow, absolutely amazing review (because it aligns with my own, yaaay).

[@dougneubecker8100]

Melee is at a huge disadvantage… Using a well timed parry doesn’t matter and still withers your health . Makes no sense . What a damn shame they wouldn’t have fixed it . The blocking offered by the shield in this game is pointless

[@szihu]

Probably won't dive in this year due to the backlog of games that's still nasty, but it's reassuring I have a solid soulslike to wait for. Especially after a few months of post-launch polishing/fixes, which will undoubtedly arrive.

[@perry9709]

lol, my backlog of games is hell, probably like 150+ games behind.

[@szihu]

So you're already deep down in Umbral...my man@@perry9709 I've got like 10 games (excluding another 10 of "not great, not terrible" on various platforms) in queue, so first thing '24* I'll come for ya. * actually closer to 2025, 'cause I forgot that Skyrim VR, RDR2 and Elden Ring close this queue.

[@cosmikowl261]

Subbed, liked, and watched the full video just because you put that you loved it in the thumbnail. I wish everyone did this and it's dumb that they don't. You guys are dope

[@n3crobard]

Excellent and thorough review! This game has really piqued my interest since the early access gameplay streams kicked off, it has that signature level of challenge and sadistic playfulness soulsborne games tend to exude, while giving you a staggeringly beautiful and dark world to explore while you experience it. I'm hoping some of the mechanical stuff like lock on and combat moveset issues can be resolved with patching, and from the looks of it, seems like something that could be addressed without too much of a lift. I'm glad the SFX are being looked at a bit as well; at least from the early access streams it sounded to me like a lot of the blades had blunt punch-like sounds on attack and/or didn't always fit the timbre of the materials or weight of the weapons. Definitely an area where polish matters so much for immersion. Interested to see what the end result of that is. I'm really loving that they have unlockable starting class additions as a progression reward in the game, what a brilliant idea to get you back in there for future replays! Looking forward to this one in a huge way - it's hexin' time, baby!

[@isachellstrom8467]

Damn we are getting some actuall souls-likes contenders this years with both this and lies of P. Thanks for the review

[@karkadeight]

i don’t understand all the hate towards this game. it’s honestly so good. everyone is such a critic nowdays

[@jimmydanktron2695]

The umbral droning crescendo really does put you on edge. Getting close to Red Phantom spawn always freaks me out on the run to emerge out.

[@JK-ul1yk]

Why do you say "How does the game compare to the 'Lies of P'?" when you dont actually compare them at all? I recently just bought Lies of P and while its no fromsoft, im finding likes and dislikes about it. Wish your review followed through and actually compared a more recent variation of the darksouls formula like you stated. Im really liking Lies of P and Id be more curious about this game if I could get some direct relevance to it.

[@scubasteve3032]

I tried to play Lies of P but I’m not partial to having to parry all the time.

[@dragonwaz]

Parry all the time? Did you not just build for blocking? There's a mechanical arm in the game that lets you block and swing at the same time. You regen most of any damage you take if you spend your quartz on buffing blocking and rally while using that. It doesn't have permanent up time, but using it for harder enemies is great.

[@scubasteve3032]

@@dragonwaz thanks for the response. I’ll give it another try.

[@codyjames4814]

Nice Co-op idea. It sucks when you must leave a good team up

[@tNuOcCaFrUmS]

still annoying that the guest doesnt get boss loot and host cant be revived. but well there will be mods to fix it.

[@GrimAbstract]

I really like the idea my friends can enjoy this game with me since the difficulty turns them off and I love to help people pas the soul games haha

[@hadleys.4869]

Thanks for the review. Maybe do an update to the review after all the patches? I truly love this game and it has excellent replayability. Crossplay seems to be working flawlessly now and framerate stutters and even freezes seems to be completely gone now. Im excited for all the new content they are planning to release.

[@Fextralife]

Thank you for the support! I really like the game and gave it best soulslike award of the year. I don’t think I need to redo the review but I’m happy to always tell everyone I really enjoyed it and I see he devs working hard and adding content and it really helps

[@hadleys.4869]

​@Fextralife thanks for the reply. I'm on my 2nd play through as a Radiant sorcerer and I really love Pieta's sword at a level 10 with 3 runes one for increasing holy damage, one increasing smite, and one increasing physical damage. Combine it with a 20+ agility and 40+ radiance and you have something special. Also have a ring that increases holy damage.

[@Andy_Paris]

Fextra undersold this game guys. His recommendations are pretty good, but imo, this game is better than he says it is. I decided to get it, and it's one of the best souls-like I've ever played. And I'm not even a huge fan of that genre. The combat does not feel "floaty," if anything, the controls feel a little floaty, and translates into the combat. For me personally, the combat feels great! It can use some polishing, but what game doesn't upon release? Even Elden Ring had to update the smoothness of their controls after release, it was terrible at first. Now, it feels just like Dark Souls 3, the smoothest game I've ever played, just like Elden Ring, and now, LotF. I'm excited for this genre now.

[@SpitSomeThinGood]

Refreshing to read someone that knows what they're talking about. Lately it's been nothing but Lies of Small P Organ warrior losers.

[@Gurenn83]

Going to grab my preorder on Friday. I have been waiting for this since I also liked the first one in 2014.

[@Ford-wt8rn]

Pretty fair review, and I honestly feel bad for the developers for this game. Theres no doubt if it came out any other time then the busiest gaming month in years and was made by a certain developer that starts with an F, it would score much higher by other review outlets, regardless of its performance issues.

[@TheVDaddyo]

I’m totally rooting for these devs… love the genre/concept. But they’ve got to release a polished product. Not sure why they didn’t release a beta/demo 3 mos earlier like LoP. Would have provided ample opportunity to release the best possible version of the game. Having said that, I’m still very excited to get my hands on and play this!

[@shanegale6143]

What the fuck are you talking about lol. "I feel if this game was made by completely different people it would score higher reviews" ???????????? like yeah no fucking shit dude if it was a different game made by different people then it might score differently LOL seriously what the fuck are you actually saying hahahahhahahahhahahahhahahah

[@ThePsyEagle]

@@TheVDaddyowith all the performance issues I get in later areas on ps5 and hearing from content creators/reviewers how much worse their review build was it probably would have just made people 2nd guess if they should buy it or not.

[@TheVDaddyo]

@@ThePsyEagle have you bought/played LOTF yet?

[@dungeonsdudesdragons]

I knew my buddy and I were picking this game up, but your review 100% cements the fact that we're hyped for this!!

[@RyderSontaig]

Interesting. This review made me not want to get it when I was 100% going to. Might have to rewatch.

[@The.Usurper]

​@@RyderSontaigFor me all these issues are minor ones. ones that will most likely be fixed after a few updates.

[@paulevans6076]

Sorry if this is a spolier (i dont think it is, but others might), in regards to NG+ not covered in this review: The save/bonfire system changes in NG+ , effecting how players may approach the game. In a first playthrough you have your normal bonfires set throughout the world to rest at. You also have items you can use to place your own bonfires - giving you an additional resting point. You can only have 1 of these active at a time. If you choose to plant a second one, it removes your previous additional bonfire. In NG+ there are NO normal tratitional bonfires to rest at - you can only use the one that you plant yourself, and again only one of these can exist at a time. So this will dramatically affect how you choose to explore and approach areas. Running the risk of longer 'run backs' in areas versus the convenience of more regular resting areas.

[@SlayerSeraph]

I'm a little skeptical because of the amount of sponsorship from Hexworks and the hesitation in post release videos

[@rantalmore]

Same. Waking up to a bunch of ppl posting oddly positive reviews is pretty suspicious

[@InventSlaminate]

Lololol y’all so cynical

[@CrashBashL]

​@@rantalmoreSo only acceptable reviews are the negative ones ?! A game cannot be good cause it's suspicious?! I guess that after the Starfield curated reviews, I'd also be sceptical....

[@Sincerity1993]

​​@@rantalmoreMost are negative... Look at the metacritic score

[@Angelthebwat]

@@Sincerity1993it’s a 76 says generally positive, which by no means you should go by since metacritic is a scam.

[@solroskarnor]

God! I love this game now after the patch! :) You know that feeling when you finally finds it fun to play again? "Ghaa! :)" Gonna try out many builds. Thank you for a really good channel.

[@jobforaspawn8381]

I swear fextra "loves" every single game they review lol

[@alex.starostin]

They also really love money ;)

[@Burberrydalive]

​@@alex.starostinCLEARLY lol

[@incognitoinhell8742]

Just picked it up today, and it's been a mixed bag, so far. I'm on Xbox, using the Series X, so I'm unsure if this is a problem on PC, but something I've noticed is that the cinematics are very choppy, even when the graphics are set to favor performance, and there's a huge bug which basically just removes most of the textures from the environment and characters. But gameplay wise, it feels great. The combat feels like Dark Souls, but with enough nuisance that it feels fresh and unfamiliar, giving the combat that old school Dark Souls feel that no other Soulslike not made by FromSoft seems to be able to replicate. The bosses that I've beaten have also left me feeling rather polarised, however. The tutorial boss felt way too easy, like it's kinda funny. I was expecting some sort of Asylum Demon level boss, but instead it was Soldier of Godrick levels of easy (do we even count him as a real boss?), but then the first main boss kinda felt like they shouldn't have been there. This dickhead was either two tapping or flat out one shotting me with certain moves/combos that really made me dislike the fight, despite the really impressive display they put on. Like, if Malenia was nerfed to first boss levels of difficulty, this is what she'd look like. Overall though, it's been great. I've been needing something to tide me over until the Elder Scrolls VI and Dragon Age: Dreadwolf, and this alongside getting back into Diablo IV might just help with that 😭😂

[@DucatiDiaries]

I appreciate your honest review. Too bad about the lack of enemy variety. I'll wait for a few patches and then buy this.

[@constantinesoldatos]

What is it with people, all souls games from Fromsoft have on average 40 types. Elden Ring being the exception since it's a vast open world and has like 140 if I'm not mistaken. When it comes to scale and variety this games puts most tripple A games to shame. Combat is amazing too according to Jeenine, Fightingcowboy and Steel who are far more experienced souls gamers/pvper's than Fex.

[@DucatiDiaries]

@@constantinesoldatos yup Elden Ring has spoiled us.

[@prez3756]

​@@constantinesoldatosOnly if this game was developed by fromsoftware, it would have received massive amount of praise rather than negativity from some people.

[@lordaizen8004]

Honestly Elden Ring doesn't even have a lot of unique enemy encounters. They reuse SO many boss fights, even main ones like Godrick/Godefroy or Godfrey/Hoarah Loux, etc... and then you have a TON of regular enemies that were given underserved Boss health bars and made into Boss encounters. Some of them were challenging ya, like having to fight 2 Gargoyles at the same time. But in the big picture that is just reused content. Even like the 8-9 Deathbird/Nightrider encounters. Sure some of them get a new move here and there, but it's not even guaranteed youll see them do it.

[@lordaizen8004]

So far LotF has been really enjoyable to me. The main issues I have with the entire game is the damn Lock-On being sketch sometimes and that you step forward when you swing your weapons. Which I suppose can make sense when stringing together swings, but it definitely feels different than swinging multiple times in Elden Ring or something like that. I wish it was more in line with ER in that regard and I don't think anyone would disagree with me

[@kasplat5874]

Any review at launch these days, especially on PC, need to compensate review scores when technical issues and performance are one of the big problems; especially on PC, where it is likely the main game development focus was for Xbox and Playstation versions of the game. Early review copies and what streamers show before release is not even the day one patch version, let alone the patched versions weeks or sometimes months later. Granted, sometimes these issues are not addressed with patches, but that's highly unlikely for big AAA games or dedicated indie developers (No Man's Sky, cough, cough). Once we firmly moved to publishers knowing consumers are all using online machines, which has been a decade or more, the golden master was no longer the final version of the game. The collectors editions of games these days don't even come with a disc most of the time.

[@BryanPlaysAlot]

i wonder what he means with ending that leave a lot to be desired, i mean the Dark Soul 2 ending was literally just you sitting on a throne and locking yourself away, and it was still an excellent ending for a Souls like game.

[@jelanihashim7083]

I actually put lies of p down after about 12 hours to pick this game up. It was too many of the same enemies and the same environment on repeat. And it has no exploration. Every time you run into a locked door, no problem, just go forward and you'll find the way to open it in a couple of minutes. I'm glad it's doing well because it's clear the devs put a lot of work into it. But it just doesn't do it for me. I also prefer the style of LotF. But its level design, even without the lamp, is a lot more like a From Software game than P. It feels like Dark Souls 1. The lamp adds even more to it.

[@yarmy2936]

Absolutely stunning review mate!! thank you so much for making this content. It brings much more of an analytical point of you than rather at times subjective in comparison

[@dmonkeylife8012]

I’m getting this next payday. Honest to god I bought Lies of P and forgot all about this 😢 thank you for video

[@Fextralife]

I'm pretty sure it's discounted for the next few days - if not you can wait for a steam sale next month hopefully

[@TheBlackBearMMA]

My boss bouta be heated I just caught Covid tonight 😂

[@CrackingCritic]

My first “souls” game was the first Lord’s of the fallen. I really liked the game the look, the fighting mechanics and the story… I really hope I get the same from this.

[@moshhammer666]

I‘m so glad this turned out well. Can’t wait to play it tomorrow

[@BrawTheKing95]

Had a email off microsoft today saying the date has moved for today, i havem't been home yet to check tho

[@slumpedshrek3330]

@@BrawTheKing95it comes out at 9pm pst

[@slumpedshrek3330]

It comes out in 7hours and 15 minutes

[@radiantveggies9348]

​@@slumpedshrek3330actually it already came out

[@slumpedshrek3330]

@@radiantveggies9348 not when I commented that

[@lordortiz4969]

Most fair review I have seen thus far! Spot on

[@Foundprodigal]

Im the odd one out, but LoTF is much more enjoyable to me than Lies of P. LoP is so difficult that i quickly lost interest. Thats coming from a massive souls fan.

[@mohamedkhomsi3375]

I of course do not deny any of the game qualities: its art, its level-design, its very smart way of handling throwing weapons, etc. They're great. I loved all of that. But here it's a Souls-like and when you want to start with a build before to try others (2-hand heavy weapon in my case) and that once you get a great hammer on your way at the very beginning of the game, the game turns into a button mashing experience, you can't prevent from being heavily disappointed. I suck at designing OP builds (in From soft games I always look for guides once I'm at the end of my 1st run) and here, I just discovered that a strength based character could spam run/R2 in circle and a few heavy R2s to annihilate everything the game puts in front of you. I stopped leveling up at 65 but it didn't help. In front of Bramis castle I gave up. I was too bored. I understand that a game can have balancing issues but to become a button-mashing thingy is way too much to forgive. Lies of P on the other hand was a blast. It had everything I could expect from a From soft game and even a few more (it made me feel deeply sad and even have tears). It had that feeling From soft games have in combat. If you don't give up, you get skilled and you end becoming the boss. It's not "just" a wonderfully designed world where combat is just tapping a button blindly. Lotf really disappointed me on that. I found the 1st one far less interesting but way more rewarding your will to succeed.

[@seankelley9347]

I appreciate the in depth non spoiler review. Really well done. Me and my friend both pre-ordered. Really looking forward to playing it.

[@eternalNostalgia]

Playing an inferno char on my first playthrough and really like the game. Respawning enemys can be quite annoying at times which is my biggest flaw with the game.

[@DarthTrethon]

All that sounds well and fine but you haven't covered a key element of souls games at all...how are the bosses? Probably the worst aspect of the first Lords of the Fallen game from 2013 was how bad the bosses were compounded with bad combat. It looks like the combat is bad in this game as well, so how are the bosses? How many bosses are there, how many different kinds of bosses are there, how many copy pasted, how satisfying is fighting them? If the bosses are bad that's a massive deal breaker for a souls game and would make it a bad game.

[@stokesy2469]

Apparently 30 bosses 20 of which are unique.

[@DarthTrethon]

@@stokesy2469 Hmm, for a game that is 3x the size of Dark Souls 1, 30 seems a bit thin. I need to see more about how they work and how fighting them is. Metacritic score so far is not very good, 67 on PS5. The general combat in the world being flimsy and not great is a massive red flag already.

[@patrickphillips6550]

Heard all the bosses were easy as fuck. I mean if ign and gamespot say the bosses weren't hard for them then you know the bosses aren't hard at all which sucks honestly.

[@KidArkx]

​@@DarthTrethon7/10 is a good score. If I was dating a girl and I gave her a 7/10 on the entire relationship, that just means she's good?

[@artemis5265]

​@@patrickphillips6550......ign aren't a credible source my guy

[@thomashooper2451]

Now I'm looking forward to the best part of Fextralife's Souls-like coverage: The build videos.

[@nathanbardaji8180]

This game is so hard. I’ve beaten every fromsoft soulsborne several times, why does every hard enemy need to be accompanied by backup enemies?

[@alex.starostin]

Because artificial difficulty

[@chrisgotthat2435]

Haven't played it yet, platinumed lies of p, really liked that game

[@pbabiesinspace6112]

I like Lords of P more better. I love playing as Pistachio. That guy is nuts!!!

[@PhaRoaH87]

Lies of the Fallen?

[@EStephensII]

I’m looking forward to this! I came into the community at Elden Ring and went back for Sekiro, but never played the Souls games. I’m coming off of a hot Armored Core 6 run, and need some game exploration in my life. I’ve already pre purchased the deluxe version with his hopes. 🙏🏽

[@vincentmichel5165]

Try the NIOH series you won t regrer it and of course the Souls series

[@aettic]

Also, I'm very impressed by the work you folks put into the wikis you make. I know there's still more to come on this one, but having used the Elden Ring one plenty, I know it'll come in handy (as it already has).

[@toothgrinder2760]

Fextra always has the best reviews. Keep up the great work bro-migos.

[@-Hammer-Head-]

So since the coop player can't loot most items how do they get spells from bosses and stuff or can those be dropped too?

[@Almighty_Mage]

You run through each player’s campaign like other souls games

[@-Hammer-Head-]

@@Almighty_Mage seems like a oversight for something that has seamless coop

[@aaronhumphrey3514]

This game seems so different from Lies of P that it feels like a disservice to both to try to decide which is better. Souls fans really should play both and be happy.

[@commoncrook8531]

One of the things i love is when you get to a new area and the sound that plays.

[@mladd777]

Can we just appreciate that we will have an awesome game again this year? :)

[@davoostergotland5160]

Köttbullar, potatis, brunsås och lingon

[@preyscalling]

@@davoostergotland5160Lingon tastes like shit

[@adamkondracki3201]

Dj Khaled,: 😂 And another one 😅

[@chazclark86]

I’m in NG+ on Lies of P and love it!! Bought this along with Dead Space remake at £21 each, this game looks brilliant, can’t wait for it to come, have Silent Hill 2 coming tomorrow and another couple souls likes to dive into! So excited lol. Way late to the party with this and Lies Of P!

[@shakybeevessouls]

I'm starting to trust yourself and Skillups reviews more than traditional gaming media outlets. The world building sounds incredible and that interconnectivity with shortcuts, is something I mourned greatly from Elden Ring, which felt like a patchwork blanket to me. Excited for this one tomorrow 👌

[@joseaviles4780]

100% fextra has been my go to for reviews, builds. Just s tier content every time.

[@THEUrinalCake]

Fex is pretty much the definitive source when it comes to souls

[@andreamaral9725]

Everyone else after falling for the 3rd time off a cliff in this game: This games controls sucks 😮‍💨 Me after falling for the 3rd time off a cliff: Man I suck at this game, I gotta get used to the controls 😂

[@the.artists.journey]

Sounds like most of the combat issues can be fixed with patches (maybe day one patch?) Hopefully they adress it and polish further! Because this game sounds like A LOT of fun

[@zakuguriin4521]

This game feels like if Castlevania Lords of Shadow and Dark Souls 3 had a baby. So badass

[@dragonlotion1789]

The lack of enemy variety is a bummer, as no one I’ve seen has mentioned this. Lies of P had the same issue but they masked the issue In cleaver ways. kinda took the wind out of my sails, but I’m sure I’ll pick it up.

[@allandm]

There are no vestiges in NG+ so you can't fast travel, and you have to use your seed item to save. This really ruins ng+, it should be a separated challenge mode not part of ng+

[@wecoolwecoolbounce5191]

Love the people going "REEEEdont call it dark souls!" When its an 87.89% Dark Souls clone down to the friggin character rig

[@andreichetan4694]

Sure, and almost every car is a clone from another car. Lets bash things for getting inpiration. Than bash every single thing in this world😅 Dont play it, simple as that

[@DrGamersEmporium]

​@@andreichetan4694you're being weird and annoying and defensive

[@Achilles141]

Not a single person on this planet has said this isn’t similar to dark souls lmao

[@Sincerity1993]

And lies of P isn't a Bloodborne clone from wish 😂 PS: people in your head don't count. I haven't heard anyone say that

[@draccondracul2082]

Don't fix what ain't broken

[@ssofire]

Where is the comparison with lies of P? Did i miss it?

[@Hungydungy99]

Really don’t understand the hate the game gets it’s phenomenal and the atmosphere is wicked.

[@RaLLenheimer]

I absolutly Love this Game . I played all Soulsborne Games with the Exception of the Original Release of Demon Souls and i played them a lot . My Opinion is that LotF is on parr with Dark Souls 3 but not as Good as Elden Ring , which is to this Day my most Favorit Game of all Time

[@gabrielmcguoirk6106]

2:42, yikes at least it has the heart jumping "OH SHIT" that Darksouls gives me lmao

[@ggkrapface]

My first soulslike game was ds1 on the 360. Have played every fromsoft game since and finally someone has replicated the worm eating through and apple design of ds1. So far really enjoying lotf and hope it doesn’t shit the bed as I progress through it.

[@redpepperdave]

I remember hearing there was a sequel being made, I never thought I'd end wanting to play it as much I do now 😂

[@alexanderkurz1603]

It's not a sequel tho... more like a reboot or remake

[@BeefMeisterSupreme]

@@alexanderkurz1603 people use reboot too much nowadays without knowing what it means, it literally takes place 1000s of years after the first game and the mc from the first one shows up

[@proggz39]

This looks so much better than the first game which I tried for several hours to enjoy as a souls like fanatic but couldn’t jive with

[@bigdoopy]

I've seen so many different reviews on this game now, some say combat is amazing some say its good but doesn't excel, some say the exploration is awesome some say its terrible due to too many enemies to effectively explore an area. Seems like it's going to be a subjective title but it looks appealing to me!

[@Andy_Paris]

Fextra undersold this game bro. His recommendations are pretty good, but imo, this game is better than he says it is. I decided to get it, and it's one of the best souls-like I've ever played. And I'm not even a huge fan of that genre.

[@aaronhumphrey3514]

Anyone whining about the difficulty of the umbral realm is a clown.

[@ooperblownup]

We can tell the combat is unpolished just from looking at it. Collisions as a whole seem goofy

[@1yu8omir]

You need to be really aware where you go because you'll get surrounded and the janky controls/hitboxes will be the end 🥲​@@aaronhumphrey3514

[@andreygareev1394]

hit my 100 hours recently. my only problem is the net code. wish they could offer a smooth online experience at launch.

[@victisomega4248]

I definitely prefer Lies of P to this game, and think it probably deserves a better score overall between the two given it was more mechanically polished at the time of review in terms of combat and engine performance. It’s art style and OST feel less generic as well, but subjectivity weighs heavy in these reviews. Regardless soulsborne fans have their pick and are eating good this year as there’s something for everyone.

[@60iger29]

The lore, atmoshphere, variaty of weapons and fighting styles, graphics, level design, world mechanics like umbra movement is definitely better in LotF. Lies of Pi was better polished but compared in general the weaker game.

[@victisomega4248]

@@60iger29 That’s the nice part about getting so many options in one year. I heavily disagree with pretty much every bit of what you said, but seeing this “genre” getting games, giving us options means more people can find something they enjoy!

[@60iger29]

@@victisomega4248 Maybe I need to check on Lies of P again, but I really didn't like the level design being. It was too straight forward, while in LotF you have more freedom. This reminds me of Dark Souls 1. And I really love the grittiness and darkness of it more. I also think that the bosses are better designed. They have combos you can learn with each fight while Lies of P has so many enemy types which vary with their combos. Sometimes you have the same attack starting but it ends with 2 or 7 combos. This randomness is just frustrating. Nevertheless it's also a great game and you are right. For Soulslike lovers it's a great year!

[@TheeAthis]

@fextralife Great review! How does this compare to ER in terms of difficulty?

[@Fextralife]

It’s a lot easier and a lot harder at the same time. Easier because bosses can be managed much easier. Harder because the levels are long and have lots of enemies so can be pretty brutal. But I really loved it overall

[@TheeAthis]

@@Fextralife Thank you!

[@longnguyeexn]

This versus Lies Of P? Edit: this is not a “Which one should I buy?” question. I have completed Lies of P. I just want to hear some review about LOTF in comparison with LoP 👀 because I think it is unfair to compare this with FromSoftware games like Elden Ring or Bloodborne lol.

[@Sly_404]

Lies of P

[@Krafcik226]

I would take Lords of the fallen but its just because I like this setting.

[@Kumire_921]

Both

[@Gurenn83]

LotF > Lies of P

[@dudeguybro]

So, TLDR: Just go play a FromSoftware game.

[@dekaynine6347]

Despite the hate this game got, I still prefer this game over lies of p bc of I just like collecting all the spells and armor. I also love trying new builds which this game offers a ton of. Lies of P does have superior gameplay though. LoF has more "floaty" combat, at times it doesnt feel weighty idk how to explain.

[@zachzachary7648]

Bro this game deserves a 6/10 or 7/10 MAX. Its like a shittier Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin.

[@alex.starostin]

Dark souls 2 is god tier compared to this, lol

[@thrashhhhh]

At least DS2 runs.

[@andreamaral9725]

7.5/10 minimum

[@damianryan3791]

Fextra’s words are golden. His recommendations are top notch

[@Noone67764]

I must say , this made me decide to buy this with my budget this week instead of lies of p. I feel like I made the right choice. I look forward to when I can commit to this after finals. It’s badass to get good grades and play games like this when I’m done lifting!!!!

[@_Paul_N]

*THIS* is the review I’ve been waiting for. An actual channel dedicated to the Souls genre, and not your casual channels like IGN, Polygon, and Gamespot that award 10s to Madden and Call of Duty 😄. I just purchased the Deluxe Edition on Steam for the goodies and it’s only 31.8gb lol 😤

[@argonaut_jay]

I was on the fence with this one especially since souls like games are beginning to oversaturate the market these days and it's getting old. But after hearing your honest review I'm going to wait. Thank you!

[@urbanapache2]

Decent review, been looking for a new game that I can play with pals. Time to become a wizard