Lords of the New Church last ever show. The Astoria London 1989 (infamous T shirt incident)

Punk/Goth/ Rock filmed by and in tribute to Steve Kunde P& © ALS Archives London 1989

[@toms6888]

Underrated... Underappreciated...unmatched energy.... forever missed. I still love their music as much as ever

[@tangopiratesofficial5211]

With Hindsight, i don't think the t shirt thing (and it's reason why) was the main reason why we split. it was just a pretext for the inevitable. we did need a break cuz we toured non stop. and by now we'd have a few more albums out, no doubt, if Stiv wouldn't have gone elsewhere. R. I. P. xxx

[@cathyskywalker77]

Back in the mid 80s I saw Lords of the New Church at the Grotto in New Haven CT.

[@kevinappleman848]

saw and met you guys playin' in L.A... Palace , Music Machine, great shows, indeed...Simon was with you then, and I drove him to hospital after an "incident"; He thanked me afterwards, it really could have ended badly... had his back, Man.

[@lilyofthevalley5586]

Stiv was a great and energetic frontman. RIP Stiv. 😔

[@scowlfarm3061]

I love how Stiv is making sure everyone in the band sees the t shirt

[@jimmyjazz2504]

Yep a shock for all the other band members as they were not in on the plot.

[@Bacardicus]

Wow, what a great find. It's funny, Stiv knew he was playing his last show with The Lords and he puts on one of his best, most controlled later day performances with the band.

[@kevinappleman848]

Yeah, In true Stiv fashion, a "parting ' practical joke ! (always leave 'em laughing, Brother,,, Heh , Heh,HAH!.... RIP to a great rock and roll Band.

[@pauljennings4637]

Amazing!! I was at this gig!

[@stevefirestone5396]

Just to set the historical record straight, Stiv had the wrong information and the advert on his T-shirt was never an ad looking for a vocalist to replace Stiv in the Lords but was in fact an ad placed by new band Kill City Dragons which included Dave Treguna, Danny Fury, and Steve Von Saint looking for a vocalist.

[@evangeline77x]

That's not true, Dave Tregunna and Brian James have both confirmed that the ad was real. Although Brian James insists that it was Stiv's idea to hire someone and the ad wasn't seeking a permanent replacement but was instead just looking for a singer to fill in for Stiv temporarily on a European mini tour. Billy G. Bang from KCD has confirmed he was the original candidate initially chosen to fill in for Stiv (AFAIK neither Brian James or Dave Tregunna have ever said whether this is true or not, both just say that no one could have replaced Stiv so the idea was scrapped immediately after holding auditions). If that is true than Billy G. Bang is also likely the reason Stiv found out about the ad and auditions, because according to Billy he didn't want to accept without Stiv's blessing and tried to reach him through an unnamed mutual friend. Whether that part is actually true or not though has never been verified by anyone other than Billy.

[@Thisisspacemusic]

man I love Stiv and Lotnc, my fav band of his for sure!

[@davidleegoth]

Lucky enough to see them 3x

[@josevivas4012]

Stiv Bators best punk singer ever...underrated...

[@tangopiratesofficial5211]

thanks Mr Jimmy Jazz for this cool video. i had a blast watching it and of course it took me back in a great way. Danny Fury

[@silenus_ip]

Top drummer Mr Fury!! Greetings from Uruguay.

[@mjh5437]

I thought Danny Fury died years ago?

[@jimmyjazz2504]

My pleasure Danny. Keep it loud buddy!

[@feydharkonnen]

I was lucky enough to be at this show. 2nd time I'd seen them. Over 30 years and more than a thousand gigs later, this still remains one of the best I've ever seen. There was a strange atmosphere in the crowd after the show. Like everyone was trying to work out if exactly what they'd just seen had really happened. I don't suppose there's a full length version of the show out there?

[@kidcalabria]

Wow, the first song is Willie Dixon's/Muddy Waters' I Just Want To Make Love To You... that sounds very promising! I loved this band & I knew Stiv Bators (RIP). Thanks for posting this!

[@cathsalazar9930]

Wow u r so blessed to have known him had a big crush on him stil do at 71!!!!!❤️🦊👍

[@kidcalabria]

@@cathsalazar9930 Really? Stiv was a lovely guy but he was also very small, looked perpetually wasted, he was skin and bones, usually stoned on smack, very self-destructive, he had a death wish (unsurprisingly his first band was called Dead Boys, as the documentary film about him that came out 2 years ago...) and had "I'm trouble" written on his forehead in invisible ink (that I could read, nonetheless)... But he knew Latin, he was a gentleman and always very good to me (I was only 19 - 21); he would have been the first to say to you: "De gustibus non disputandum est" (Latin for "Taste is taste"). At gigs he'd often say to audiences: "Dominus vobisscum" (Latin for "May the Lord be with you", emphasizing the "vobis" (with you) and "scum" - which doesn't require any translation... Incidentally, often people who knew Stiv say that we look alike... but don't get any ideas... lol!

[@cathsalazar9930]

kidcalabria so sad but still a great dude everyone has a demon mine gone after it destroyed itmy teeth but best of all did’t kill me but could’ve been free

[@cathsalazar9930]

kidcalabria everyone has a demon I beat mine but affected by what it did to teeth that’s my regret as well as how it causes relationship issues mine good now if I had to do it all over again simply never would’ve. So sad such a great guy hope he’s in a better place!!! Thanks for reply lol❤️👍😻☮️😹🎶🙏

[@mjh5437]

@@cathsalazar9930 He looked gross,he looked like a rat!! lol

[@sashawille]

Thanx! Takes me right back to where it was at , great band, great guys, great times :) but alas, all things come to an end xx

[@jimmyjazz2504]

Sure does Gina

[@zipperneckkids]

Saw them in Houston Tx at a place called Power Tools . I made Stiv a shirt and he traded me for this badass Hammer and Sickle maroon shirt . Wish I still had it . Got stolen in Hollywood .

[@miaolin3781]

Thanks for this last performance. Awesome.

[@isitadream1985]

I miss Stiv and I miss LOTNC!

[@46ASM]

I was there .Rip stiv

[@cathsalazar9930]

U so f in lucky bro!! I’m jealous!!!👍❤️

[@alanduncan9605]

I saw em 3 Times,they always shined an opening act.it was always "just" them,& they always played 10 11 songs of the most every show.

[@rickannis4926]

Awesome thanks for this

[@DamianCullenBand]

Thanks for the post, enjoyed it! ;)

[@RAT12345678]

Thanx !!!

[@chasbeanpole8799]

Great video. Followed the lords because of Brian James. From The Damned obviously. I saw the Lords every time they played in London, and also in Paris at Stivs last turn up. RIP Stiv.

[@alexandervoog9396]

Who the FUCK could ever "replace" Stiv as the frontman of the Lords?!!!!!!

[@jtb1649]

my friend played drums for him. and he was a prodigy. so when he wanted out of the band stiv owed him money which he wouldn't give him. so he told stiv he wanted to buy a fur coat ,got his money and quit. today he is an entertainment lawyer.

[@juhakinnarinen7365]

Amazing band voice amazing 💖💖

[@Benrode_Official_Germany]

RIP Stiv, my dear old friend.

[@glamcityrocker]

Wow this fuckin rocks absolutely!!! Even with all the problems

[@steverushton8193]

Great band thanks for this RIP Stiv always be a Dead Boy

[@Thisisspacemusic]

he is so on! Usually he is slurring and fucked up :)

[@user-ej3up2hm2w]

Stiv was the ultimate front man. Great live, shame the song output was good/bad but still ground breaking. Still live the Dance With Me video!

[@cherylchaison5085]

I wish it was a clearer picture

[@jimmyjazz2504]

On Stiv's T shirt was a copy in felt tip pen of the ad the rest of the band put in Melody Maker for another lead singer without Stiv's knowledge I don't have a better copy of this photo.

[@UltimaThule1968]

My eyes aren;t what they were. Wgat's with the T shirt?

[@jimmyjazz2504]

How much time you got..........................

[@jimmyjazz2504]

Stiv printed with felt tip pen a copy of the ad the rest of the band put in Melody Maker advertising for a new singer when Stiv was allegedly feigning illness. He revealed the T shirt to each member of the band mid show at the Astoria show 1989 and then quit the band. This incident is what takes place on the video.Please do not reproduce this video without permission © ALS Archives 1989.

[@Thisisspacemusic]

is this in mono or are headphones broken?

[@Somethingrandomagain]

it's in mono clearly.

[@jerryhellstrom30]

If sounds are poor so just put it on MUTE😉😉

[@mjh5437]

Brian James is still wearing that same greasy old trilby hat over 30 years later 😆😅🤣

[@bonezzone]

what does the shirt say?!!!!

[@jimmyjazz2504]

Hey Zumi the T Shirt was Stiv's attempt at replicating probably in felt tip pen a copy of the ad placed in an English Music press weekly by the rest of the Lords advertising for a new lead singer unbeknown to Stiv. This situation arose due to Stiv's propensity to cancel gigs/tours because of what the band considered his dubious back problems when the rest of the band wanted to tour and make money sell records etc.The above gig at the Astoria in 1989 was the last show Shiv played with LOTNC. He died a year later in Paris on the 4th June 1990 without speaking to the rest of the band. JJ

[@lt9316]

jimmy jazz do you have any early vids of their opening band in 82, the Trinity?

[@jimmyjazz2504]

Sorry, although I saw most if not all of their London shows this was the only one filmed by a close friend of ours Steve Kunde,sadly now passed. This was Stiv's final show with the band and nobody except for Stiv knew it at the time! R.I.P.

[@mjh5437]

@@jimmyjazz2504 Do you know any names of who they auditioned when they were trying to replace him?

[@jimmyjazz2504]

@@mjh5437 No, although I know a girl singer was considered from those who did audition. I don't think it was a real idea to replace Stiv just the band showing that they had enough of Stiv's excuses not to tour and as it turned out Stiv took the bait and walked, never to return.

[@davidsutherland1173]

Did he throw up during the intro of dance with me? He was off time too. I think was was speedballing(H/coke).

[@evangeline77x]

Yes.. Stiv had pretty bad cirrhosis of the liver at this point, so he very well may have just been sick.. I don't think he was doing dope anymore though, most people close to him around this time have said he had cleaned up in the final year/2 years of his life.. Dee Dee Ramone (who is obviously not a reliable narrator, so take this with a huge grain of salt) said that when he visited Stiv in Paris during the ill fated Whores of Babylon sessions, that Stiv was completely sober the entire time with the exception of wine he would drink in the evening and get completely plastered off a single glass (a telltale sign of advanced alcoholism/non-functioning liver).. Whether that's true or not obviously I can't say for certain, but it seems from all available information that Stiv was just not a well man at the end of his life.. Also, he vomited pretty regularly, lol. Especially in the Dead Boys and early Lords era, there are tons stories of him just vomiting out of nowhere, onstage, sometimes on people, choking himself until he vomited etc. (bulimia can also be a symptom of chronic alcoholism). So it wasn't an out of the ordinary occurrence.

[@mjh5437]

@@evangeline77x Malnutrition is a very common symptom of alcoholism too.

[@mjh5437]

Bators spews right into the audience at 19:53 lolol

[@jimmyjazz2504]

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[@cathsalazar9930]

Ok by me I just wanna see & hear my Stiv & LOYNC one more time! And again again again!............. rip Stiv love & miss ya dude!!!!!👍❤️😻🔥😹🦊☮️🎶

[@MrGaragerocker]

Great ! Could you upload in HD quality?

[@jimmyjazz2504]

Sorry not at this present time, hopefully in future if the right professional equipment is found to transfer again to digital HD quality

[@PAULLONDEN]

Oh...my...dog..... 21:30..we sure were waiting for *_that_* .......did that in my teens....playing gurl......sadly Stiff hadn't shaved his bikini line though....Iggy Pop doesn't even bother to pathetically push back his trade.... Can advice everyone to crank open the bass channel...otherwise this is unlistenable.

[@jestermindcrime1773]

really , and yeah had to come back and edit it,,,wow