The Hidden 4th Faction in Helldivers 2

[@Yellowdude-hy6vi]

I am extremely racist to bugs

[@ZapderPZ9]

We will all be extremely racist to squids soon 😂

[@dogetube89]

Hell yeah helldivers let’s kill those ink sacks

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Does that make you a...spacist!?

[@GeneralRyko]

​@@SuperEarthSalute Isn't the right term for it "Xenophobe"?

[@rygar342]

@@GeneralRykophobias imply fear, and we don’t do that here!

[@xybetz753]

It would be cool if they added mission where it’s not just one faction and where there’s multiple factions on a map and they’re fighting each other and the helldivers.

[@theman13532]

sorry to kinda ruin the fun, but i think one of the devs said something about that requiring a large rewrite of the enemy system (and possibly other neighboring systems) to get working i assume this is because everything for it is possibly all coded around the idea that there'll *only* be one enemy type on one planet. from personal experience of making a rigid system and later wanting to make it modular, their reasoning is a completely valid reason for not wanting to do it. it's an extremely annoying process, most of the time basically, they accounted for "what faction has this planet?" but not for "what factions are attacking this planet?", if that makes sense. maybe planets will swap control a lot on faction borders or something, they seem to like the idea but can't really execute it well with the current functionality

[@SuperEarthSalute]

That would be great but probably very difficult to achieve! Still, an interesting idea!

[@dranox7197]

@@theman13532 Maybe they could make planets where both factions are fighting, and different missions or operations may have a different enemy to fight.

[@brunothebat4122]

@@SuperEarthSalute For some reasons, the Terminids done it when they tried to take out the bots. However, if a fourth faction is coming, then I hope a first friendly would also emerge.

[@joshuaroberts69]

Maybe once we get our space station. I know the core is spaghetti already but you never know what Joel can pull off

[@mrcompisawesome]

In the old lore, weren't there entities that the Illuminate worshipped? Could be a higher tier faction to show up

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Wow, that's a really horrifying idea! Maybe down the line this will become a thing?

[@TheHouseAlwaysWins123]

some ancient cosmic gods or something

[@samuelclark5491]

@@TheHouseAlwaysWins123 the illuminate are gonna mop the floor w our corpses and guts. How can we fight cosmic beings that even they bow down too!?

[@SwayzeConnor-n4m]

That would be crazy

[@1krani]

​​@@samuelclark5491 If these beings were so unstoppable, they wouldn't need the Illuminate. Old cosmic horror stories from pre-unification always had the massive star gods trampling their followers as well as the heroes. "Cosmic indifference", I believe it was called. So, the fact the Illuminate exist at all means their gods are not as almighty as the Illuminate think. The day the Illuminate show their faces to us is the day those faces lose all their teeth.

[@Leonidas_L._Lionheart]

_"A 4th faction? Maybe skinwalkers? My smutje cooked my last super steak medium... But I eat my super steak medium RARE! He should know this! Something isn't adding up here..."_ - Death Captain Lionheart

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Hmmm, a frightening notion but not out of the question, Death Captain Lionheart. We must remain ever vigilant! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@limamasten]

Isn’t that someone from warhammer

[@limamasten]

Death captain lionheart

[@Eppykiora]

@@limamasten I think your thinking of the Dark Angles Primarch

[@Prmarch]

I think fourth faction is fashist))

[@maneon1016]

For me they should be Mutants of some sort. (And they act like Orks from Wh40k) Think about it. We have Biological Aliens (Terminids), Technological Aliens (Illuminate) and we have Technological Traitors (Automatons). So there could be a 4th faction of Biological Traitors (Mutants for example)

[@Soundwave1900]

What I hope for is lovecraftian cosmic horror

[@freeziboi3249]

@@Soundwave1900 That would kick so much ass!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Adding in a B-rate or Cosmic Horror aspect would be really great! Could definitely get on board with a mutant faction!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

@@Soundwave1900 Seconded!!

[@BlueFlameFoxX]

Hybrid furries 😂

[@AeonDaemon]

I would really enjoy a human traitors faction, no fire support call ins for them though

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Seems to be the most believable and popular option - and agreed! They would have mechanics that are also unique to them.

[@thebigenchilada678]

I hope you enjoy getting one shot by rifles. Helldiver armor isn’t very strong against bullets.

[@Odog78]

The call ins could be fired from the planet like artilary and eliminated by taking an objective.

[@andrew4720]

Maybe a human faction would be used to introduce pvp gameplay?

[@HandyDandy6]

@andrew4720 the devs aren't doing pvp, it doesn't fit in with their vision for the game

[@zacharymclaren5665]

We have bugs, bots, squids/cephalopods. Now we're getting lizard people

[@TruthKeepersOfficialHD2]

Or just people who said "Enough of this over American bs, republic bitch"

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Feels very on-brand if you ask us!

[@zealotking67]

Let him cook

[@borekminer]

that actually makes sense because if the ministry is right then they have been high in the government and in positions of money

[@dextreme7186]

Shush,@@zacharymclaren5665, you might spoil it! JK, talk as much as you like, giving ArrowHead ideas (that don't involve nerfs) is often a good idea.

[@ZDinoNuggiez]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="20">0:20</a> “Even the ministry of truth” implies that the ministry denies the existence of things that are real, which it would never do.

[@MicahMotion]

It's the ministry of truth, not the ministry of knowing everything

[@holykobold3322]

I know a lot of people don't like zombies or the idea of another game where there will be enemies remotely similar to living corpses as some are now saying about Forever Winter. But, it would be cool if in the future, we would be shown not just a new enemy, but maybe like Hallowe'en Event where scientists found some virus or created it and that virus works on a similar concept as in Dead Space. As for me, it would be cool to fight hordes of weak but very dangerous in close combat piles of flesh that as an example SCP-610 behave burrowing in the ground, infecting territories, etc., something like in the movie The Thing.

[@MacCalloom]

@@holykobold3322 dead space zombies yes, cod zombies no

[@movealongjon]

@@holykobold3322 the off brand Flood!

[@Dragonseer666]

Some sort of event that happens on just one or two planets, this could be cool, or there could even be minor rebellions.

[@TheMagnumDon]

honestly if it were Zombies they're such a classic I think it would work considering that Helldivers 2 is based off of 1997's Starship Troopers if they did 90s themed Zombies It would be pretty cool It would also be a really neat gimmick to have a friendly Helldiver come back to life to fight against you their body wasn't cremated or gibbed what I think would be cool if they made the heavier units just a bunch of zombies glued together, like the Panzermorder from CoD zombies but if it were Zombies they'd probably do a jacked version of L4D2's Green Flu where instead of Undead it would be a Rabies-like Virus that would constantly mutate the hosts into shit that doesn't look human anymore also if they ever put any time into making a special event where'd you fight unique enemies for a season I heavily bet it's the DRG collab people have been geeking over about cause since Arrowhead is a Indie Dev Team, they gotta prioritize their resources

[@SurfinBirb]

@@holykobold3322 I think space zombies or an infestation like xenomorphs/necromorphs that were made from a bio weapon gone wrong would be amazing.

[@Electro_728]

Actually the Illuminate are really nice and friendly and you should let them inside your house and give them the plans for the space station and the super earth supply line map and - *knock knock* "Democracy Officer here, OPEN UP!"

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Now that's the kind of talk that'll get you in SERIOUS trouble, Helldiver!!

[@GCleo-lv95]

Ye-es ve-ry f-u-nny

[@taddad2641]

you know it be perttty weird if it turns out that the illuminates have a population of humans they abducted from super earth.... and now they are loyal to the illuminates cause they ilumiantes like, actually give a shit about their health and lives Xd.

[@omargerardolunamorales217]

Theres a Theory that the fourth faction are actually the Cyborgs, It Is weird considering that the automatons are the Cyborg's creation.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Interesting, wonder if they'll make a return? Guess we'll find out...

[@TheHouseAlwaysWins123]

I think the cyborgs will be a subfaction within the automatons

[@omargerardolunamorales217]

@@TheHouseAlwaysWins123 I beleive the same, that at some point they Will appear and will be harder than the automatons themselves.

[@dazurathefirst8456]

@@omargerardolunamorales217 I don't think they would superior. If anything it would be the differentiation between the different bug subfactions. Equally challenging, but in different ways with different strategies they employ, if any at all.

[@Nmx6286]

I just thought they'd be in the automaton army. Like after some update we suddenly find cyborgs amongst the automaton army.

[@Aldritch9183]

It's kind of strange, but I've noticed the designs of the terminals. It's clear that the Terminids can't build machines on their own, so all the terminals we use have the Super Earth logo. However, with the Automatons, it's different; the terminals have different logos and use green colors for the interface. The strangest thing is that they aren't made by the Automatons, as they don't use their vocabulary.

[@THE_GRIMM_SON]

It is time, Brothers! Time for ArrowHead to recognize the clans and factions!!!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

It truly is time.

[@AidanClutter]

@@THE_GRIMM_SON i wonder with the addition of the clan system if the chaos divers can become more offical

[@THE_GRIMM_SON]

@@AidanClutter Prolly, that includes any others, MMO RPG style hub, unique clans, and markets!

[@craig9365]

Chaos divers are g-hey af tho. What kind of sweaty neckbeard would want to Openly say that.​@@AidanClutter

[@avalac5674]

There is only one clan and one faction: The Democracy of Super Earth!

[@dextreme7186]

Although a fourth faction is appealing I like the idea of being able to find living S.E.A.F. military personnel on the battlefield fighting against the enemy, you can use coms to communicate with them and they can utilise equipment from their surroundings (if it's hellpod given weaponry such as support weapons and manned turrets and pelican delivered gear, ie, vehicles , mainly walkers, you can order them to use it), and their tag and status comes up on the H.U.D. like in old HALO. Like stragglers in Termanid infestations, remaining rebels against the Automaton and/or Illuminat. And they can extract alongside the Helldivers, giving you extra samples, RS, adding extra liberation to the goal bar and possibly SC. Finding surviors other than evacuees would be awesome, after all, the Helldivers, pilots, and destroyer pesonnel aren't the only S.E.A.F. personnel, basic soldier exist too.

[@Peppermint_747]

They would die super easily lol

[@dextreme7186]

Us humans are delicate things. They'd likely die about as easily as Helldivers do, maybe a little quicker, as I don't think stims are used by many S.E.A.F. personnel other than Helldivers and maybe democracy officers and pilots.

[@dextreme7186]

Every human does. Helldivers are one-shot by most þings, and two shot by þe majority of oþers.

[@Nooptune]

there may not be a set in stone fourth faction, but we should always be ready to fight for managed democracy. Stay sharp.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Agreed, prepare for the unknown

[@davidgutierrezestrada2157]

What if we meet a new human force in the universe that are not of democracy but an empire that what’s super earth gone

[@jimboanimations4041]

Tbh? I think it would be cool if we got traitors that actually ally (technically) with the other factions, and appear occasionally on worlds under attack. The bugs could have terrorists that seek to control spread the Terminid Infestation. The bots could have Cyborgs as Super-Earth Defectors and descendants of the Cyberstani survivors. Illuminate could pretty much just have cultists Lovecraft style. How traitors could act is up in the air, but I'd love to fight against SEAF defector enemies and go up against other people with our guns.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

This actually sounds doable and would really add to the experience. So maybe not a "4th Faction," but rather enemy humans working with the existing factions. Nice!

[@jimboanimations4041]

@@SuperEarthSalute I'd consider it a "mini faction" of sorts. A set of units made to appear either in specific missions, or in separate groups as a rare encounter. Most units would be given a variant for the different main factions (along with possibly 1 unique enemy exclusive to a faction), and would have mostly the same behavior. Some enemies I see working for human dissidents include: Standard SEAF defectors with low health and armor, but with some added resistances to fire, explosives, and caustic damage to make them harder to kill on masse. They'd carry basic weapons like Liberators, Break-Action Shotguns, and HE grenades. Heavy troopers with upped armor, who wield SMGs and Shields. They'd not have much more base health, but come with the armor and durability scores to soak small-arms fire. Not very accurate due to one-handing their weapon, but they are way more aggressive and support the fodder. Stolen Exosuits, which function as the high-level enemies of the traitors. They replaced their guns with lighter weaponry (maybe a specific weapon type based on the faction it supports?) in exchange for more armor, giving them a little more protection than standard.

[@Cowboysnake991]

this is actually a brilliant plan and now i have like 400 ideas in my head for what they might look like so thank you for overloading my brain and causing me to go into cardiac arrest

[@jimboanimations4041]

@@Cowboysnake991 Np. I just wanna see more going on in the game atm. The little details with bots and bugs are fun, but they feel entirely separate and detached from the rest of HD2's world.

[@The_real_monarch]

i think it would be cool if we got a flood like enemy (like halo) and would be able to take over our (and maybe bugs) bodies

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Great suggestion Helldiver, talk to your nearest Democracy Officer

[@TruthKeepersOfficialHD2]

​@@SuperEarthSalute in other words "That's a wonderful mind if yours, Billy. Now go see your psychiatrist"

[@grimrants9255]

Why would you wish such a thing ! Thousands of my brothers have died to support your super earth. Report this diver for both treasonous intent and heresy!

[@Luizguilherme-iz9yl]

isn't that already the terminyds? they are based off tyranids and the other alien guys i forgot the name, basically the equivalent of the flood

[@thegamingdoge2000]

@@Luizguilherme-iz9yl the worst they do to human corpses is eat them, now I guess they could do some starship troopers 2 stuff but idk

[@seanbrown2294]

I think Supernatural would be the way to go since we already have Starship Troopers, Terminator, and Battle Los Angeles/Independence Day. Whoever the Bots were communicating with some time back are definitely the fourth faction if it wasn't the squids. Also, I had this crazy idea for a plotline for Helldivers that this fourth faction would be so dangerous that the squids are willing to put aside their differences and fight with SE against this new threat while the Bots agree to not attack us unless provoked while they fight their own war against the fourth faction. Or it gets turned into a 2v2 situation.

[@grimrants9255]

I can't believe we're possibly getting a horus heresy

[@ustanoksamuraii112]

@@grimrants9255 that’s where my mind went when I heard it could be demonic forces

[@ASSASSIN-OBH]

blood for the blood god

[@SuperEarthSalute]

It's just a theory for now, Helldiver, but you never know! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@grimrants9255]

@SuperEarthSalute will do. I'm just waiting for my squads deployment. we're the eager sort and have been starved of glorious combat.

[@Cowboysnake991]

the super earth horus heresy has already stated

[@funkey6737]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="325">5:25</a> this is genuinely the best idea so far. Imagine working as a team to fight of cuthulu demons like in doom but co-op Helldivers could be co-op DOOM think about that guys

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Hey, we're all for it ourselves, Helldiver!

[@TheLastFallenHero]

Chaosdiver here, we’ve lost all cohesion now that our primary recruitment pitch is over. Honestly, considering the amount of numbers that declared they would gladly fight for super earth again, rouge 5 will probably just end up being a club where divers relax between missions. That said, we never destroyed the armor, and if something happens, we’ll be right back, like we never left

[@jamesThebulbmin]

Guess is chaover for now

[@eden2419]

I mean its not like the game is perfect, there are still numerous questionable and detrimental design decisions that need to be perfected. Though still, our schtick of being anti-super earth is still cool roleplay so we aren’t dead or anything.

[@Stolskai]

You guys really need to either rebrand or change your group name, Chaosdivers as a whole became synonymous with team killing and greifing. I know that wasnt the original ideals, but its what the group became hijacked by from greifers.

[@Marco_Diamanti]

@@TheLastFallenHero I wouldn't say we are done for being Chaos Divers, we are more an independent unit rn, we are still present and investiganting but not actively rogue or separatists.

[@nickosman1556]

I think a new definition of Chaodiver would be a Helldiver who doesn't listen to Major Orders and just play whatever he wants for fun and chaos only and not for democracy itself

[@warthunder_swedish1864]

Having that "4th faction" of chaos divers would be sick for a PvP like gamemode

[@Mister-Toaster]

I really like the long videos, please keep that up

[@SuperEarthSalute]

We got more coming Helldiver

[@Mister-Toaster]

Im very excited

[@SuperEarthSalute]

@@Mister-Toaster Excellent! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@ryandinkelacker8906]

The 4th faction, Imagine a coalition, comprised of multiple cannibalistic alien species, each specializing in different parts of other sapient races bodies. This hegemony operates under a sinister hierarchy where power is measured by the grotesque mastery of their prey. Initial encounters during the beginning would be easy to deal with, As they engage in their grotesque feasting, they evolve into even greater threats. Initial encounters with these beings may seem manageable, but as time passes, they consume their fallen brethren and grow alarmingly stronger, Such as: Fungoid Race: Initially appearing as small "pod" swarm units, these mycelial beings can be easily dispatched. However, if left unchecked, they scavenge the battlefield, absorbing biomass from their fallen enemies. Within moments, they transform into towering, armored giants-walking tanks of fungus and decay, capable of unleashing toxic spores that incapacitate their foes. A Vampire race, These ethereal predators glide through the air, wielding whips and swords, surrounded by a wispy, hazy aura that distorts perception. Their presence acts as a cognitohazard, luring enemies into a trance before striking. As they feed on their victims, they become more agile and powerful, each kill amplifying their deadly grace. A Cthulhu esqe race, These towering abominations command the battlefield with terrifying telepathy. Initially, they serve as imposing tank units, but as they consume the minds and flesh of their enemies, they become nearly unstoppable, warping reality around them and summoning legions of lesser creatures to do their bidding. (They could act similarly to the cabal from destiny) A Reptilian race, Acting as the backbone of the faction, these cold-blooded fighters resemble knights in sleek, scaled armor. They serve as thrall units, sometimes enslaving humans to bolster their ranks. As they feast on the fallen, their strength and tactical prowess increase, making them formidable foes in combat. Wendigo race, Manifesting as emaciated, haunting figures, these creatures embody the primal fear of starvation. Their chilling wails can disorient and terrify, and as they consume flesh, they grow larger and more fearsome, with elongated limbs and sharpened teeth, capable of rending through armor and flesh alike. Lycanthropes: These feral shapeshifters strike fear into the hearts of their enemies. Initially appearing as human, they transform into massive, savage beasts mid-battle. Each kill enhances their ferocity, making them relentless hunters fueled by a bloodlust that escalates with each victim. Formless Gaseous Psionics: These mysterious entities drift silently through the air, their true forms obscured. They can manipulate minds and create illusions, instilling paranoia in their foes. As they siphon the life force of the fallen, they grow stronger, gaining the ability to physically manifest and manipulate the environment around them. Maggot Men: These grotesque, decaying beings thrive on rot and refuse. Initially slow and sluggish, they can quickly consume corpses to swell in size, gaining speed and strength. As they grow, they develop a hive-like intelligence, coordinating with one another to overwhelm their enemies. Cockroach-like Humanoids: These mimicry experts can blend seamlessly into any environment, acting as spies or ambushers. Their initial skirmishes may seem trivial, but as they consume flesh, they gain adaptability and resilience, becoming near-indestructible while employing cunning tactics to outsmart their foes. More ideas for other species could include different Insectoids and or perhaps other lovcraftian inspired races. Together, these species form a nightmarish alliance, each contributing their unique predatory skills to the collective. Their interactions are marked by an uneasy balance of cooperation and rivalry, as they vie for dominance while also recognizing the necessity of their gruesome unity. The 4th faction becomes a force of nature, leaving a trail of horror and dread across the landscape as they hunt and consume, driven by primal instincts and an insatiable hunger. The battlefield becomes a horrific theater of transformation, where every fallen enemy strengthens the coalition, creating an escalating cycle of violence and consumption. The more they feed, the more they evolve-turning the tide against those who dare to challenge them.

[@nsr-ints]

What about the Borg type faction?

[@MoniFps]

Imagine how cool it would be if The Combine invaded the realm of Super Earth.

[@KambrenZaliski-j6t]

@@MoniFps we would crush them.

[@weapieraxe1650]

@@MoniFps That would be Coughing baby VS Hydrogen bomb levels of 'dude, it's all over'. In all honesty, I don't think there's many universes or factions that could beat The Combine outside if Half-Life.

[@EldenLord-wh4ov]

​@@weapieraxe1650Not even half life can beat them

[@LipeSun]

@@weapieraxe1650 That depends a lot on which Combine forces you are talking about, if you are talking about the real Combine army then you can be right, we don't know anything about them and their power, but if you're talking about the Combine forces we face during the game? Honestly, I think they would be wiped out by Super Earth.

[@Jay2480]

Seven Day War instead of Seven Hour War or smth

[@Myder_Dragon]

As a chaos diver I'm pretty happy what AH has been doing. Might turn loyalist again

[@Jhon-Helldiver2610]

The 4 th faction could be the chaos divers or any other type of humans traitors.

[@vid101.]

That would be a terrible idea and go against everything the devs want in the game

[@albertorodriguezlaso5283]

The moment I see an enemy 500kg or a red emancipator suit I'm leaving instantly

[@OrionDawn15]

@@vid101. Well the devs wanted this game to be fuckin' Arma or Dark Souls, can't have everything you want.

[@lyras.9161]

I was gonna say, I think rebels would make sense.

[@legendaerycraft2226]

@@vid101. the enemie soldiers (super eath rebels) would be ai, like every other faction.

[@jamestagge3429]

Dude NEVER breaks character!!!!!😂 I fucking love it!!!!!

[@brunothebat4122]

Hear me out on this theory, I think it won’t be all of Super Earth as a whole, but would be cool if a faction against Super Earth turns out to be from corruption, and it’s the Helldivers’ duty to bring justice to them. It’s a cool idea for us to have a fourth faction, and it’ll be clearing corruption away.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Nice theory, we like it

[@TheUncivilizedNation]

The Warhammer fans are gonna have a field day if that’s the case

[@SzuperA99]

Let the seas boil, let the stars fall. Then let the galaxy burn

[@brunothebat4122]

@@SuperEarthSalute I believe Super Earth itself won’t betray Helldivers, but it’s not to say bot or bug sympathizers, or the bots and bugs mysteriously get intel on our supply lines, would have part of the downgrades. We had a similar thing happen in Marvel where SHIELD was infiltrated by HYDRA, which could be both a surprise and not a surprise if there are traitors, which will be our duty to deal justice to all who oppose it. Our enemies could be anywhere, but not Super Earth itself. We also had several surprises even the Ministry of Truth had, which either have problems with intel (reason why I am saying this is because there had been “fake” leaks, but turns out to be real,) or they got traitors among them that loyalists could purge. It would be an interesting dynamic, as the former President did conform there are rebel factions, if I remember correctly. Also, it might be scary to think the resources are actually going towards a private army of sort. Which Helldivers might have to fight so they could put down new threats.

[@ShadowDreamer100]

It would be cool if it makes it an indirect PvP feature, with players declaring for SEAF or rebel causes. Each team goes down and fights human enemies (red or blue colored because faction) to try to move the liberation percentage closer to %100. The game play and mechanics wouldn't change, but pitting the players against each other in a certain area of the galaxy map, even as a limited time mode or event, would be very cool.

[@DwalinTheGreat]

I think plant based enemies would be cool. There is a lot that could be done with plants and lots of variety to pull from too

[@CryptanalystDigitalSolutions]

Walking trees

[@lellolatina8157]

Fellow Helldivers, am I the only one seeing a blue/purple butterfly like creature fly away from you every once in a while while on mission? I might be allucinating thanks to my long exposure to the Bloom on Terminid planets since I'm now fighting the Automatons on Gaullivare

[@SoundWave24]

Yeah, there are little butterflies on planets, and little jellyfish too

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Report this intel to your nearest democracy officer Helldiver

[@lellolatina8157]

@@SuperEarthSalute already done my fellow Helldiver, still nothing from them...hope to hear about it soon!

[@Zephyyrrus]

I have seen both blue and red variants. They only observe, never striking. I have never seen one die.

[@lellolatina8157]

@@SoundWave24 dunno about jellyfishes! But those butterflies are really strange, they take no damage from medium armour penetrating rounds...

[@Delta-007]

Maybe it will just be some sector that declares independence. Like lets say "The United Colonies of Arcasia" and we'd either let them keep that sector, or fight with them. Helldivers could eventually pick their nationality to represent who they're fighting for if we go down the war route. If we go down the peace route they will try and aid the galactic war in our favor.

[@sandsrhew1203]

High command be like: Mh... Space apes? Ok, i like it, oh wait, we would be responsible for creating them... Nah you're a traitor

[@SuperEarthSalute]

The inner working of Super Earth's leadership are indeed complex, Helldiver!

[@alexletiny5155]

​@SuperEarthSalute too complex for their own good, even

[@jalontf2]

The 4th faction: Gray Mann's bots. They differ from the automatons in that they run on money

[@n4n196]

I want this.

[@Troyaaaa]

love your channel! ❤ keep the content coming for liber tea. May god bless super earth.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Thanks for your support Helldiver!

[@sinso1991]

​@@SuperEarthSalutewhat a waste of f****** time your video literally covers f****** nothing new a coverage f****** nothing

[@BOHICA69]

I would like to see a traitor faction, when implemented also implement faction wars. The Bots and Bugs fighting over a world with critical mineral deposits. Traitors and Bugs fighting over E-710 pumps to fuel their FTL capabilities. Illuminate and Bots fighting due to territorial claims. Bots attempting to harvest Traitors, because traitor brains are easier to convert to fight against Super Earth. Illuminate facilities being attacked by Bugs. You know, stuff like that.

[@TriangleSmooth]

I'd love a section that has all three factions battling it out.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

An amazing idea - not easy to achieve based on how the game works, but a great idea to be sure!

[@TheHouseAlwaysWins123]

would be cool think the devs said it’s impossible to do

[@sebastianhernandez7434]

Half the map bots the other bugs

[@IVIUT3D]

when your teacher says you gotta do a 500 word essay, but you only got 3 sentences worth of ideas.

[@TheCerealkiller148]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="350">5:50</a> i like how this was worded like being driven to insanity was an alternative punishment to imprisonment or execution.

[@SpectralSlugger]

I really want traitor divers as a 4th faction, the 3 main ones from HD1 are good and all but I think something new could really bring this game over the top

[@TheMagnumDon]

Space Zombies would work perfectly Like Imagine your fellow Helldiver dying only to come back to fight you and their replacement I could imagine the Heavier Zombie units are either heavily mutated in a way like how L4D2's Green Flu works or a bunch of Zombies merged together like the Panzermorder from CoD Zombies I bet it would be caused by some Viral Contagion that I bet would 100% be alien with no doubt about it (cause Super Earth being in direct involvement with the creation of the Automatons and Terminids is much already)

[@SuperEarthSalute]

It's an idea we could totally get behind, Helldiver! Maybe one day in the future?

[@TheMagnumDon]

@@SuperEarthSalute Until then I am more interested in our soon encounter with the Deep Rock Galactic mining company

[@gaigeschaal9070]

I'd be down for an eldritch horror style alien

[@Chaos_Accords]

The Council of 5 has taken note of this message, and would like to express their own reply. We although having one of our main objectives and reasons for existing accomplished, we are still very aware of the many other atrocities and shall still consider ourselves independent from High Command and their lies. We are by no means trying to make a enemy of our fellow divers and citizens, but if we are one day to fight, brother against brother, then so be it. And know that we shall not be the first to strike, we shall be the first to respond. Per La Libertas, S.E.S.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

So the Council of 5 persists? Seems the Chaos Divers are still very much alive and active!

[@purplethefoxu]

VERA LIBERTAS!

[@jamielee1259]

@@SuperEarthSalute VERA LIBERTAS!

[@Chaos_Accords]

@@SuperEarthSalute Indeed, the Council of 5 does. And yes, we are. And although in disagreement of leadership as well as truth and lie, we currently are doing our best to help aid our loyalist brothers survival.

[@Rini_Sakura]

@@SuperEarthSalute VERA LIBERTAS!

[@GarrettCaldwell-Young-gk3lj]

I'd like to note that the SES and Super Earth as a whole has gone to absolute sh*t. It may not be entirely that true, but by all the content that's here, I can come to no better conclusion. As a logistical trench diver, I think we should just retreat back to the central sectors and dig the f*ck in. As a citizen, I'm scared. Divers, please save us!

[@Poltato222]

Would be cool a mixture of cybernetic and biological enhancements that makes the enemies look like cyberpunk Halloween creatures like scarecrows, frankensteins, vampires, zombies, skeletons, ghosts, werewolfs and etc.

[@Dragonenthusiast-g7i]

Now THIS is what I’ve been thinking about a lot, spot on SES

[@schele939]

I can't believe there's the possibilty that we are going to fight against other helldivers , this is very sad to hear

[@SuperEarthSalute]

A tragic thought indeed, Helldiver...we do not wish for this, but if we must defend Democracy, then we shall do so! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@wwpark]

Space orcs? Demons? Predator like aliens? Flood like Halo? Humans?

[@KINGTHORZ]

It be awesome if for Halloween they added zombies. Use the termicide they used on the terminids and have it turn the seaf personal on those planets into rage virus type zombies and zombie bugs

[@segatv2426]

Well as the Pilot of the "Crow" (My Pelican Dropship) I'm ready for anything my Divers need!

[@Alsborg]

A mix between Lovecraft creatures and Necromorphs from Deadspacd

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Geez that sounds terrifying...we're in!!

[@Ixarus6713]

"I'm transmitting this in the blind. This message goes out to every Helldiver out there that's fighting." "I've seen beyond the reaches of SE... but that doesn't make it easier to figure out the truth behind this war. Just know to trust eachother. That's the least you can do in times like this. Have eachother's backs.." "I won't reveal my allegiance, because then I might get a sudden visit to my grid coordinates.. but just know I stand with you all. And I'm working out here to ensure we know what we're fighting for." "Did it not seem too convenient that the Chaos Divers' complaints about weapons were so quickly fulfilled? Someone out there is hiding things from us. And I don't know if it's Super Earth or another group entirely.. but I assure you. I will fight to protect our people no matter the cost." "Signing out."

[@SomeTexan]

Fighting traitorous humans in the game would be awesome

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Seems like this is what most people expect or are hoping for - seems doable too so we'll see!

[@TheHouseAlwaysWins123]

only thing is they’d need to have a different play style from automatons. Humans enemies are pretty squishy so maybe vehicles would be the backbone of their army. Another thing that could make them different to play against would be they get to use stratagems similar to us

[@spartanrage1963]

A Demonic faction would be the most unique, option and also really fucking cool.

[@Capper_Bra]

I was about to say: “What if Its helldivers?”

[@SuperEarthSalute]

DUN DUN DUNNNN!!!!

[@carltonjames2346]

Decked out with alien tech and termind mounts

[@ChosoKamoReal]

@@carltonjames2346 terminid stratagem

[@The_cgull]

Fighting other divers (NPC ones) would actually be so fun.

[@lennydoorknob8949]

i really hate the idea of straight up ripping off chaos from warhammer shows a complete lack of creativity just like the chaosdivers

[@skanvak]

The point is with SM2 out. Any WH40K rip off is not interesting. Though a kind of civil war is highly coherent.

[@nothingclever7582]

I really really want to fight demon but how are chaos divers uncreative? They aren't even a reference to Warhammer chaos?

[@lennydoorknob8949]

@@nothingclever7582 they’re completely a reference to warhammer chaos marines I don’t think that could possibly be more obvious

[@nothingclever7582]

@@lennydoorknob8949 thank you I am forgor

[@LOLOJOJObus]

The chaosdivers were a serious threat for a while but they had a kinda mini civil war amongst themselves when people started saying that they were chaosdivers but they only refused to participate in the major order. The problem was that they got popularized and many thought they were cool and wanted to be one of them but were too afraid(?idk the right word for this) to actually do what a chaos diver has been intended for since the start , to cause chaos.

[@Poncholives]

Yeah a Zombie, Dead Space like would be cool. Maybe getting a Plasma cutter like weapon would be cool against all enemy types too haha!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Love it! Nothing like a little horror action to get the blood flowing!

[@Poncholives]

@@SuperEarthSalute 100% brother!

[@thygameralot9860]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="684">11:24</a> THEY ARE AMONG US? EVIL HELLDIVERS? MY GOD IT ALL MAKES SENSE

[@LegendaryKwandaleDingle]

As a chaos diver myself I can tell you for a fact that we were betrayed after giving all to Super Earth, chaos divers aren’t griefers, we simply fight what we believe in but not for super earth. Now due to the fact of high command listening to us we are back as loyal citizens. Whoever was responsible for the betrayal is to be held accountable not the chaos divers themselves

[@SergioSF]

Its a human based faction so Arrowhead can reuse existing assets.

[@That_British_bloke]

The chaosdivers are now nothing more than lost souls who need guidance once more i hope the light of liberty shines in the dearkness allwoing them to see that super earth needs then and that they should come home and fight for its safety For super earth and democracy 🌏

[@SuperEarthSalute]

It would appear some are still clinging to their ideals, but their cause has been weakened following the latest update! Long may Liberty reign! FOR SUPER EARTH AND DEMOCRACY!

[@demyx0067]

Yeah, it's because we're actually quite content with the new improvements. We don't need guidance, we're already back in the fight.

[@internetuser320]

​@@SuperEarthSaluteI dont get why some still cling to their ideal and are so weak in the resolve, just because you have a weapon that doesnt one shot enemy doesnt you have to complain about heresy,rebellion etc. They are protester at best. I have served a far crueler regime than arrowhead and these people didnt seem to understand what being used feels like. True reason for anyone to rebell against super earth is knowing its crime and evil! The biggest crime that I hate the most is the hipocrisy: by blantantly lying to its citizen and trying to make them look like the force of good in this universe make me sick. The least you could do is be honest about it but this is beside the point. Many soul perished due to the pointless war caused by super earth ,and we will never give up until the one pulling the string is brought to justice! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@SillyName4U]

​​@@demyx0067 a true chaos diver here. for truth and brotherhood!

[@demyx0067]

@@SillyName4U For Truth and Brotherhood!

[@laurentic1146]

Personally, I think it would be best to have another mindless horde or semi mindless horde based faction. The illluminate and automatons are smarter and meant to be the more tactical factions, the terminids are our space bugs whose intelligence is debatable although they do seem to have some form of rudimentary thought process. So let’s get another one, we get two horde based factions, and two “squad” based factions for lack of a better term. Personally, I like to think that a mesh between a horde and squad based faction would be amazing, not as tactical as the automatons, not as powerful as the illuminate, not as overwhelming as the terminids. My proposal goes to something similar to either a Last Of Us type fungus, taking over SEAF, civilians, and Helldivers alike for their “horde” mechanic, but also being “tactical” by swarming/attacking Helldivers who strayed from the squad, or attacking in the midst of difficult terrain with lots of cover for them to advance with. While the fungus thing can be swapped out for a hivemind, robot intelligence, more bugs, etc, a fungus would be fun just because you then have an excuse to put a bullet in “chaos divers” who have fallen to the infection. A secondary idea is to have them be a human faction, whether it’s chaos divers or the OTHER side of the political spectrum since we currently have our space socialists in the form of the automatons. It could be an interesting mechanic that involves maybe even defecting SEAF, civilian, and possibly even Helldiver forces that are politically opposed to Super Earth, whether it’s genuine belief to their traitorous cause, or just wanting to stand against Managed Democracy for any variety of reasons and just having another human faction to go to making it easier to oppose Super Earth.

[@AidanClutter]

Yoooo, full video!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Every week baby

[@AidanClutter]

@@SuperEarthSalute YEEEESSSSS! AMAZING DAY HIP HIP HORRAY!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

@@AidanClutter FOR SUPER EARTH AND DEMOCRACY!

[@axios4702]

I love the whole Chaos Divers plotline, it will probably fall back into a niche clan in the near future but the commitment to roleplay of this community never ceases to amaze me, I'm actually considering coming back. Not for Super Earth though, me and my divers have learned how little they care about us. We will defend the innocent on our own terms. Vera Libertas.

[@gooeybob_drawing3692]

It be so fun to fight rouge helldivers, like imagine they made makeshift lookout towers and bases they protect. That would be so fun.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

That would be epic

[@WhenToastersAttack]

A human enemy faction that uses the same stratagems as us would be wild af

[@inkedthedemon]

@@WhenToastersAttack yeah that should be in the game😢

[@RobbyVogel]

purhaps a faction of religious space lizards want to destroy humanity. spooky

[@XalenPrime]

The enemy’s are all completely different, so if / when years from now when they add a 4th enemy it will be just as different. It won’t be robot related, but related, or tentacle psychic related. So an enemy human faction would be unique, but would be hard to make them different in mechanics to the bots, due to them already having tanks, helicopter like air support, mortars and much more humans use. A zombie / undead enemy would be different, but would be hard to make sure they’re not too close mechanically to the bugs. The next enemy will have gravity, laser and telekinetic attacks most likely. So it will be hard for them to make a unique type of 4th enemy. My hope would be either that it would be something like the Orcs from 40k, or a magic based alien race that casts spells and has medieval looking armor and castle bases

[@dopelsoser3528]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="364">6:04</a> Nah, it couldn't be dworfes😅

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Highly unlikely - maybe they'd join us for a beer or two though!?

[@thebearded4427]

As a Stale diver, we continue to wait. Almost nothing can bring us back except massive amounts of streamer interaction and people around us showing signs of life. We crave the laughter, as it might make us ....feel something again. The changes are but a small nudge, but we still remain Stale. The apathetic Stale divers will stay true to our sayings: "huh" "what" "I didn't know people still play that game" "Wait they made changes?" "So is it fun?" "I don't know. I might take a look during the weekend" "Sorry bro. Something came up"

[@ChaosDiverNR4773]

The time will come...

[@caintwelve]

ay you got want you want, a buff for weapons now start serving with your brothers.

[@ASSASSIN-OBH]

indeed brother

[@ASSASSIN-OBH]

@@caintwelve we have done , but cant say for the imposters of chaos , to all fake choas i will serve you sweet justice

[@SuperEarthSalute]

*Ominous Chaos Divers music starts playing*

[@caintwelve]

@@ASSASSIN-OBH also thanks for bringing emote wheels to helldivers, i needed that BADLY

[@cfrend]

This is awesome, I love lore speculation like this

[@user-Xx0xxxxx]

Ehhhh, this isn't something planned for immediate implementation. Datamines for occupation mapping don't assign any new party to it, instead it's just split between the automatons and the illuminate like you'd expect

[@dannystewart3312]

I personally think if they did a fourth faction it should be evil mutated plants to meet all the sci-fi stereotypes. Space bugs like in Starship Troopers, Hateful AI like in Terminator, Super advanced eldritch horror aliens like in War of the Worlds and carnivorous mutated plants like Day of the Triffids

[@sushinator4988]

Time to unleash more democracy

[@SuperEarthSalute]

FOR THE FEDERATION

[@Badger_325]

sadly the devs said HD2 won't have a PvP element outside of friendly fire so us Chaosdivers are chilling. Would be interesting to see what would happen if we were allowed to have our own Helldiver factions and 2 groups meeting on the same map occasionally.

[@BraggisYT]

Helldivers 2 is underrated!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Preach it

[@sinso1991]

No it was highly praised s*** upon by its own developers and now it's right where it deserves to be at the bottom of the f****** barrel

[@slade355]

I highly doubt we are ever going to fight in a humanoid enemy, considering they said that they would never put PVP in the game. Yes they could do it but then they might as well. Just put PVP on the game.

[@unknown4me]

Illuminati? yeah confirmed coming but 4th faction... well I could surely say it's... [Transmission terminated due to undemocratic speech]

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Helldiver! Please keep your thoughts pure and Democratic! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@unknown4me]

@@SuperEarthSalute ah yes how could I... FOR SUPER EARTH AND DEMOCRACY!

[@Mr-Afro1]

We are not disbanded but lurking in the shadows for our greatest attack yet...

[@SelfConcentrate]

Hey SES, I was wondering if you had a discord server for your channel?

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Great question and it's something we're discussing. One way or another, we'll be starting some kind of community hub/meeting place in the near future so keep your eyes peeled for more! Thank you for your support!

[@AverageSkavenEnjoyer]

I've suggested this idea a long time ago under another comment section, but I would really like to see a force of cultists that discovered some sort of cthulhu-esque creature just outside the galaxy. The cultists would be able to call upon the creatures power to use magic and summon demons or lovecraftian creatures, as well as mutate their own bodies. Almost like a mix between a genestealer and chaos cult from 40k.

[@Lethalmuffin87]

Imagine if the “fourth faction” ended up being a PvP mode though. The devs would make a complete comeback if they could pull it off and make it even remotely interesting. Only instead of it being a pure force on force type of fight it would be more objective driven, like a raid that has capture the flag qualities or infiltrating a facility to plant a bomb.

[@Lyzerz]

I am Chaos Diver and I like your reasoning) But after reading the comments I had another thought about the 4th faction. And what if the 4th faction (which will obviously not appear soon) will not be just rebels, but... survivors of people from the previous super-earths that we lost in the first war. But those who were "Abandoned" survived, were able to defeat / or come to an alliance with the invaders, and now they are eager to take revenge on those who left them to die. This will be just a "human faction", but at the same time will give room for technology so that it does not look like "just a mirror image of the Hell Divers. Vera Libertas.

[@ASSASSIN-OBH]

did your weapons get better? youv gotta thank us for that

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Assuming you're a Chaos Diver then? Seems your movement did manage to get some results after all!

[@thebigenchilada678]

You did absolutely nothing but give a headache to everyone else around you, good riddance.

[@ASSASSIN-OBH]

@@thebigenchilada678 that's why youv got better weapons now 😂🤣 and do you even know about chaos? Dont listen to the misinformation about us and by the way you did f all lmaoo

[@demyx0067]

@@thebigenchilada678 Oooff, so salty

[@ASSASSIN-OBH]

@@thebigenchilada678 love your channel 😂🤣

[@wickerg041]

Realistically speaking, it would make sense that Arrowhead wants to expand on factions, since the factions we have right now are also Helldivers 1 originals. The fact nothing has been data mined yet means that they are not working on it yet, so it might be a while still, but i am sure whatever they are planning will be grand!

[@brunothebat4122]

It’s like the Illuminari is more likely a treasonous faction that would be loyal to the third faction, as we saw evidence first two factions clashing, so it’s likely the factions don’t like each other. It’s likely some radical faction will commit treason. Something like Chaos from Space Marines except without magic would be cool, just different approach.

[@usjets08]

Dude the idea of Helldivers fighting other humans who use our tech against us. That sounds amazing.

[@soup.pirate]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="737">12:17</a> among us???????

[@riverbrogan3887]

I love hell divers but if they don’t release another faction soon i feel like the game is going to die completely

[@mist12345678910]

They spent the majority of the time fixing and balancing the game. So yeah it's gonna be awhile

[@liquidyschitz4908]

At this point im so over hearing about these new enemies 😂its been months of the same video every 2 days of "LuMiNaTe CuMmInG sOoN?😱😱😱" from every YT that covers Hellidvers lol. Let alone a 4th faction now, prolly wouldnt see it till 2026

[@urfork1]

Former chaosdiver, we splintered apart, I’m sure some of them are still out there, waiting to regroup, but some, many of us have returned to the fold. Many of us did multiple tours across the galaxy, watched the creek fall four times and fought tooth and nail to prevent it, and seeing the intentional sabotage by what we now know to be an insider attack disheartened us. But Super Earth High Command is graceful, and recognizing our experience has brought many of us back into the fold, and now even I, a former chaosdiver have taken three new helldivers under my tutelage to destroy our enemies and spread managed democracy, and we will root out the traitors who put the lives of our brothers and sisters on the line, and prevented the spread of freedom.

[@Ase76]

I honestly hate chaosdivers. They think that they are the good guys but they are just teamkillers

[@SuperEarthSalute]

They claim not to be, but if that is even remotely true, it's shameful to say the least.

[@AlaiasAlias]

They are Cringedivers😂

[@erfanshojaee-ii2dn]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="327">5:27</a> imagine our brave helldivers marching hell and bringing democracy to the devil's doorstep

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Helldivers 2: DOOMOCRACY!

[@beaconJr64]

the only thing about them that is cool is the drip everything else is bad, also we need to take the blueprints from the first glactic war and put those tanks and bikes back intl use

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Agreed, us veterans want our tanks.

[@falloutfart9917]

@SuperEarthSalute I didn’t participate in the first galactic war, however I do like the sounds of being able to use bikes. The tank might be a bit hard to balance however and it may end up being not very commonly used like the mechs.

[@donovanphillips6278]

Thank you for acknowledging the obvious existence of the Illuminate. I've had Democracy Officers asking me questions daily for simply trying to keep Helldivers (my self included) safe and prepared. FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@Kinessmata-Akkadian]

I don't know why, but when the idea of the 4th faction being "demonic zombie dinosaurs with guns from space" had me dying of laughter. XD The idea is so outlandish I now genuinely want a game about that concept. XD

[@deathface473]

HORUS: "LET SUPER EARTH BURN"