Lorraine 50 t - Tank Review - World of Tanks

[@haakke]

even though ive left World of Tanks because ive realized my issues with spending money on the game arent going away anytime soon, i always come by to watch your vids. keep it up, qb!

[@GideonpriyadharsanW]

Don't need to spend real money just play casually

[@GideonpriyadharsanW]

Or go play war thunder that's a good game

[@moisesnunez3795]

@@GideonpriyadharsanW war thunder devs are equally money hungry

[@juriszzzgaming8837]

@@moisesnunez3795 I disagree

[@Mindi0-0]

I’m with you if u are a new player and just no premium it’s like a never ending cycle of dry games especially since u have to win in order to make exp or credits the moneh problem sucks for us who can’t afford it

[@SonicDestiny]

these 2 new reward tanks are absolute joke! Specialy cobra which is incredible worse than char futur 4 while cost almost 3 times more lol

[@ArchusKanzaki]

Note for Cobra, it is possible that WG might still buff it in the end since it is still marked "in development". Nobody can actually get the tank right now and you can always save up the points to spend it later

[@datokabulashvili2066]

cobra is just an another meme

[@azizella2778]

@@mynameisray It's not free. U might think it's free but in order to get it u need to buy the premium bp. And if it was op, it would at least be worth the time and money.

[@FlaviaPitariu]

Cobra is still in testing

[@hoennnoodle]

better that than wg giving out tier 9 chieftains

[@warkus123]

All they had to do to make this tank was take the AMX M4 51, remove the hull, put it on a Lorr 40t hull and then done, you got a fast tank with good turret and a good cannon... But nooooo they had to go completely ruin every single other statistic too, not just the armor.

[@mikazukiaugus6321]

TBH the Loraine 50t turret is fairly accurate design than the m4-51 of it although it was introduced this tank turret but it was mounted in AMX 50B hull and its historicaly accurate blueprint design way back in 2011-13 if I'm remember correctly and it's officially top tier new branch of french heavy tank but it wasn't.

[@FOKI5895]

So, what we learned is that you should grind for the Emil II, and spend your battle pass on anything other than a lorraine

[@g.d.graham2446]

Yes

[@mentorkosova3796]

Not anymore

[@kennethjose3458]

lol lorraine is fucking good

[@Damien_N]

Ohh no - I love the AMX M4 51, i was hoping this would be a little faster & less armored version of that. But this is an AMX 65t at Tier 9 :(

[@g.d.graham2446]

My thoughts exactly

[@UrSneakyDad]

So a view port bug and a balanced tank? They definitely didn't test this tank before releasing. 😂

[@g.d.graham2446]

More like an underpowered tank

[@saberpendragon271]

Is it just me or did that shell on 14:04 went through the ground still damage the enemy?

[@DSIREX_]

yup

[@nhancao4790]

WG modelling of the ground and rigdelines is a joke.

[@Papaiovski]

its just a replay bug, ghost shells in game are another story

[@m.redleg252]

Really soft dirt.

[@johnuselmann2704]

WG models the edges or terrain wrong all the time allowing tanks to shoot through ground in some places and not able to shoot through air in others. It depends on the location but the hitboxes are troubled.

[@brendanparisot830]

That weird reticle thing drove me crazy just watching. I noticed instantly and thought it was lag or video recording error. T1 heavy used to have something similar

[@g.d.graham2446]

It looked jarring to me too

[@eze8970]

If you think this shell flight is bad, see the lack of testing on WoWs, it's like they've given up, so many glitches pointed out by players!

[@g.d.graham2446]

Wouldn't be surprised

[@woodywilson7753]

Notice how the Lorraine 50t has rubber tyres for roadwheels so the tracks can be removed and it can be driven like a truck!

[@mrassassin3963]

cool

[@g.d.graham2446]

Lol I noticed that too

[@Bruhngus420]

don’t know if that’s what they’re meant for and i really doubt it. anyone got any info if this might’ve been true?

[@Vibein-WoT]

@@Bruhngus420 That's actually what they were for. Historically, the Lorraine line of tanks had this feature including some SPG's too. On the Lorraine 40t as well it has this feature, they were designed to be able to drive in populated areas without tearing up the roads, and then were able to have the tracks put on to cross rough terrain

[@woodywilson7753]

@@Bruhngus420 The French have a long history of building wheeled tanks and they are still in service today in the form of the AMX-10 RC

[@ieatstheinternet]

Hey Quickybaby pretty sure this tank is faster with Grousers than Turbo. Common mistake but is usually the case with tanks that can't reach top speed because of power to weight. I think you sometimes overlook Grousers for someone who loves mobility so much. Love the content & thanks for the entertainment.

[@clivedinosaur8407]

I think you're right - its faster with Grousers, but logic is wrong. Its the ground resistance that prevents tanks from reaching their top speed....on flat hard terrain tanks should eventually reach their top speed eventually if ground resistance is discounted. So tanks with OK hp/t but bad ground resistance are better off with grousers, where tanks with low hp/t and low max speed are better off with turbo.

[@tanks4helping942]

No, at least if you already have the first actual field mod with grousers your tank on medium terrain only caps out at 60, while if you use the turbo in the same setup you’ll cap out at around 61.28 km/h

[@danielkorladis7869]

If they're going to make it realistic in making the gunner's sight not centered, they should show the outline of the gun to your left.

[@neba5449]

Remember when they introduced the 60Tp and your view ports were at the drivers hatch. That was fun......

[@g.d.graham2446]

Yikes

[@honestmstk9790]

Unrelated to the video, but i was thinking about a game mode where players would make their own tanks, lets say you are given max 50 mm plates and you have to place them around and angle them. Then players would compete with their designs, and then the best player/design would have their design become a tank in game.

[@しょう-x3g]

you can try the game called sprocket. btw its not pvp yet

[@Taffer-bx7uc]

No. Just plain no.

[@honestmstk9790]

@@Taffer-bx7uc Well i mean it doesnt have to go into the game but you could for exaple win a reward. Anyway, i find the concept quite fun, and the playing field would be even.

[@davidballantyne4492]

It seems like they could increase the DPM by 20% and it'd still be meh.

[@enjin5807]

that would make it OP.. listen.. imagine Malinovka hill, this tank shifts meta by getting there first with more HP and strong turret to hold it until your team arrives and finds themselves in a better position.. this tank is not something very enjoyable, but strong in terms of key positions and certain situations

[@jovanjeremic9756]

@@enjin5807 Presuming your example is the best case scenario of being top tier, your speed wouldn't even make much of a difference unless the whole of the enemy team are super heavies lol. You're not the only one fast tank at tier 9. Any of the Russians are quick, the emil 2 exists, concept 1b is there. And if it's tier 10 then it's completely irrelevant cause things like the 277 or is7 are just as fast, and others like the kranvagn or VZ have no trouble keeping up either. This tank wasn't even that good in it's prime let alone after wg nerfed it into oblivion like they did with the cobra. A 20% dpm buff like the original commenter mentioned would still just make it a less practical worse conqueror. And considering the other reward heavies that we have at tier 9, like the ae phase 1 or the concert, this thing just mad sucks xd

[@g.d.graham2446]

Still weaks

[@Quenstar]

I like the added realism of not sighting through the gun, but actually using the gunsight. But if they put too much realism in the game, HE would actually explode, E-25s would have lousy view range, the Japanese super-heavies could not move off of paved surfaces...

[@onesteeltank]

That's something that WT or ARMA should do, not a game where tanks have hit points

[@ZaXTheAlien]

The patch is here in the 1.16_2 micropatch: "Fixed the visual issue of the shell launch point of the Lorraine 50t's gun being shifted to the side. "

[@Wisenbrow]

Shout out to you Will an Tania. Our prayers for your in-laws and your wife's family impacted by the ongoing conflict. I remember your fun youtube video on your trip to Belarus. Hope that Tania's family will be safe throughout the conflict as Belarus looks be be getting mixed up into things.

[@QuickyBabyTV]

They'll be fine, we'll make sure of it.

[@madman10340]

Why would you ever play this heavy tank over like a E50? Your team would have an extra heavy tank that isn’t terrible.

[@g.d.graham2446]

Exactly

[@darkbee2359]

Based on what I've seen so far, I'd rather save up my tokens and get the Cobra first, then grab this one if I get sufficient tokens. I have all the other tanks, so I don't have anything better to spend the tokens on. I guess I could get bounty equipment, but I'd rather just get the tanks and then not have to worry about unlocking them in the future.

[@kaptkrunchfpv]

We appreciate you firing up a lost and forgotten account to let us see the tank.

[@timberwolfe1645]

I don't know, QB. I actually LIKE the realism of seeing out the viewport and the gun is to the left of you. I like that. But dang!! You hate the tank, yet get 4k damage? I still think you play it well indeed

[@FastmineNOR]

Wildly missing on the comparative DPM between the Lorr.40t and Emil II, Emil II has a 33% higher DPM, so if you want to be broad, 30% is much more accurate, and 50% is just insane. The other tanks does have about 20% higher DPM, so well done getting that!

[@facepandaparty]

Hey QB. Much love from Texas. Could you feature a object 705a replay? I love that tank and I feel it’s a ghost tank. Would love to see some content on it. Stay safe and stay healthy man.

[@patdavis6383]

Limited to just one each of the Bounty equipment though which seems daft. You could get through that pretty quickly, assuming you have a use for all of the pieces. Personally, I would have preferred to buy multiples of a few of these and none of some of the rest of them.

[@saxonstroup9110]

It took about 6 times of me hearing QB say cabra to realize he was trying to say cobra

[@TheFlyWahine]

Havent noticed that the view port is right of the gun untill you pointed it out.

[@Dpixtion]

I don’t know what’s more scary the Lorraine 50 or that quickie baby is already at level 42 at 24 hours into the event…

[@m10lover]

In all three passes

[@reefling6237]

He bought it. Each chapter can be done instantly for like 12k gold

[@mechaiable]

about the aiming reticle not being center of the gun barrel it might be that they are trying to make it more realistic and they didn't inform the players or it was genuinely a mistake

[@g.d.graham2446]

Probably a genuine mistake

[@TigressOrchid]

just to mention one thing here, because you made the same mistake yesterday on stream. you can buy only ONE bounty equipment per season for tokens. Not all of them , like you said yestarday.

[@stevejohnson6248]

Tank littered with actual deficiencies, speed not being one of them, still takes a turbo in BOTH loadouts. It's getting to be a running joke. And don't say he took it for the engine power, on stream he called someone a muppet for thinking he took turbos for the engine power. Have to think a rotation device/vert stabs/gun laying drive would have been better.

[@g.d.graham2446]

Gun laying drive is a bit of a joke nowadays, but the rest seem valid

[@Shrike58]

Thanks for taking the hit so we don't have to! Though there was lots of warning about the mediocrity of this puppy. Hoping that the Cobra is at least interesting, but my tokens will mostly go to bonds and equipment after I get the Object 777 (which at least looks cool).

[@ashaman400]

Thanks for the heads up. It's almost like a bad first level tier tank hopefully they get better stats the further down the line we go

[@DeathstarDude123]

Just want to thank you QB for continuing to deliver fantastic content - a great way to escape from everything going on in the world

[@y55en45]

i think if the lorraine had ~1850/1900dpm as standard it would be more viable.

[@___von___7377]

I wish they'd also give it 440 alpha as well

[@matti_re]

shouldn't a reward tank be... idk a reward? what is the point when all tech tree tanks in the same class are better?

[@g.d.graham2446]

Very true

[@poptarts5387]

Looks like i'll be buying bonds instead of tanks for tokens again. Thanks for all you do Quacky.

[@rodhales9536]

The one thing missing was the detailed report showing the earnings I would like to know, because you cant make credits at tier 10 and I dont have enough tier 9s to know about them and tier 8 seems to be going the same way with you having to use premium or go backwards.

[@Loket96]

Tier 9s aren't good at making credits without prem account.

[@spackle9999]

This thing could probably pull off some epic rams if its going downhill to hit that 60 kph, right?

[@XoADREADNOUGHT]

That's not how QA works. QA can find and report an issue. In most cases, they find 95% of all the bugs you see in a game. But programmers (sometimes), and project managers (most of the time), decide to defer the fix for later because the effort to fix it would delay a release, or require all new rounds of testing which take time. For example, the Skyrim bug where giants send you flying into the sky; that was found about 5 minutes after developers released giants into the builds. And a senior dev responded to the bug ticket with, "leave it. It's funny". That's the actual response, because I saw the ticket when I worked there. I work in the game industry now as a programmer, but I started off as a manual tester. So that's my 2 cents.

[@KevinEnjoyer]

I was kinda expecting an autoloader like the 40t

[@pedropereira4478]

Dude i disagree about your statements we have enough Hull down gods in the game and THANK GOD the tank does not out perform everyone like a concept for example. I feel like its balanced and just like it should be. P.S: I was writiing this comment as the vídeo was going on and later u Said it should not be buffed otherwise it would get really good so gj QB but either way i felt like u wanted this tank to be outperforming

[@lewisgarland4025]

I run a bounty turbo along with vents gun rammer and it plays fairly good just need to use a lot of gold when in Tier 9 10 matches

[@ginx5346]

Hi QB Has the bullet angle been corrected? I just want to know this

[@ryankl1984]

that explains why I got so many gost shells in this thing I must have been hititng the rocks and crap just infront of me. Thanks for the tip.

[@bohdanjoza]

the "shells coming from the left" thing is not a bug, ITS A FEATURE. Look where the viewport is :D :D. Historical accuracy.

[@g.d.graham2446]

Just not true for every other tank

[@Borowka-Amerykanska]

Finally the video!

[@Bagheera2]

The Canarvon's gun Does the left side thing too.

[@bathanhvu6336]

AMBT also have that problem with camera view like that, i see the shell go from the downside of the tank

[@jesterreaper945]

Cobra with the HE memed to ashes And this Lorraine 50t that skip leg day

[@theunion8774]

Hey I was the kran leading the charge at 15:05 lol

[@gofast8878]

Your tank reviews are perfect QB. Best there is

[@FirstElektroGiant]

could we get a quick run through the other tanks you can get? which would be worth getting or not. would be nice to get a quick overview.

[@kol3158]

Nah, do your own research

[@FirstElektroGiant]

@@kol3158 why did you even post an answer, when you have nothing useful to say. Some people don't have that much free time. We cant tell our boss that we are coming in 2-3 hours late because we had to research which tank to pick in world of tanks or just pull 2-3 hours out of the calendar to do these kind of things. I would rather have a short video with 2-4 min on each tank and what they play like in comparison to other tanks, because then i can use my free time playing world of tanks, rather than having to look all kinds of things up.

[@QuickyBabyTV]

I have reviews of all of them, just search this channel.

[@FirstElektroGiant]

​@@QuickyBabyTV Hi. yeah, i did search and the first one (char futur 4) was 25 min. the reviews are good when you wanna dig into a tank. but if you are trying to create an overview on 5-7 tanks its takes a lot of time. my thought was something like this tank is for the medium tank player. then a short description of what tank it resembled maybe with what it does better. something in the 2-4 min range and then for each of the 5 tanks. (just a video idea)

[@randomdude8751]

Do you carry over battle pass tokens from your to year? I know you keep them from season to season but someone said you lose any extra ones in the new year. Edit: yes

[@QuickyBabyTV]

Season to season but not year to year.

[@randomdude8751]

@@QuickyBabyTV Thanks and thanks for the content, tis sick

[@violetstetpedder-4824]

You get bonda for leftover BP tokens at the end of the year. 100 bond for token IIRC.

[@grantderue]

Another 50t? I watched the Wargaming video about the FCM 50t back in the day and bought it. Something like, "It's the next Lowe only better." The FCM isn't bad, it's just not the Lowe (or Type 59). Thanks for the review.

[@mreric410]

QB, thank you for the objective review. This definitely helps my decision making process. Any chance of more NA server gameplay?

[@mrassassin3963]

he only uses the NA server if hes going to America which under the current circumstances and covid and all that shit then i dont think he will

[@kol3158]

Lol why would he play on the american server? Waste of time

[@social3ngin33rin]

@15:23 yes, I know I'm not playing it in the next 3 months; nor have I played it in the past 3+ months lol

[@bikeguy3034]

FYI - you can only buy one piece of Bounty equipment - so don't think you can spend all your points on that. Once you purchase 1 piece of Bounty equipment the option disappears!

[@pacoflores7315]

so... how much time do i have to complete al 3 lines of the battle pass??? until may?

[@JockeB70]

Very nice review! Thx QB

[@Sprintbiker]

I think its maybe better to buy bounty stuff and maybe bonds. What do you think guys?

[@pacoflores7315]

I prefer they "controlling" tanks by dpm than by accuracy, but i think they went a bit to far... 1900 dpm coul had been acceptable...

[@dellingerthefightingfish5213]

Great review as always Quickybaby 👍

[@enkilav2472]

How many tokens can we get in one chapter ? And btw does the number of points required to climb the stage rises ?

[@Rururudenko]

I think 4 in 1 chapter, this season we will get 4 pass, and number to rise are the same

[@seanblank9708]

i guess we can expect the cobra to be basically a brit char then, prolly wont bother with either of them

[@deonte9014]

I'm kinda new to wot pc. How many seasons is there in a year?

[@pascalquehen6571]

Thanks a lot for this lighty review 😉👍 No Lorraine 50 T for me 😁

[@joshuadempsey5281]

I really feel like this was meant to be a tier 8 heavy with 100% the Lor40t hull. Then they last minute made it tier 9 and added a tiny bit of hull armor and some more HP.

[@g.d.graham2446]

@@Jules-kp7rw jeez

[@joshuadempsey5281]

@@Jules-kp7rw still seems like it was meant to be a tier 8 though

[@joshuadempsey5281]

@@Jules-kp7rw and yet it still SEEMS like it was. I'm not saying it literally was, but it SEEMS like - it FEELS like - they took a half brewed t8 prem and added a bit more hull armor and hp and were like "Tier 9 ready for release!"

[@leoo9692]

Dont quote me on this but I believe these are coming from the console version of the game as the cobra and the kirovets are both in the game on the console version which I play but hate.

[@derrickstorm6976]

If you're Free-to-Play, or Player-on-a-Budget, maybe buy one of the older premiums that are still relevant, and then bond equipment?

[@_Sycho]

Do you guys/QB think that this tank alongside the Cobra with those stats are actually balanced because they're not another "hulldown monster" or "pay to win"?

[@g.d.graham2446]

No, these are just underpowered

[@blakethefoxxo5162]

the WZ-114 also has the periscope issue, this needs to be fixed badly

[@ff-klaw1375]

Why your stats always differ from my stats on TanksGG? For example aiming time for these tanks on my stats are: 2.88 | 1.92 | 2.21 | 2.68 | 2.40

[@violetstetpedder-4824]

QB is using base values (why? I don't know)

[@willdenoble1898]

Yeeee nope. Saving tokens for the Cobra. Also the shell view thing is normal to me bc of all my games in the SU-130PM

[@butterapplepie1260]

Power creep control. I'm satisfied with wg's long-term plan. However, I want wg to mix a bait menu like a cool 3D style in a weak tank.

[@billdover3165]

I mean, all I can think about when I see this tank is holy crap it has some Mobility. Unfortunately it also kind of seems like it has the exact issue that the tier 9 AMX and tear 10 Amex have. It has a good gun good Mobility but holy crap does the armor never hold out.

[@reedtower]

Buying equipment with my tokens improve my favorite tanks with them.

[@juliendruart6117]

I don't understand, they made a paper tank with no armor but with the speed of a heavy tank and categorized as such ?

[@deleter1823]

I did and I don’t care I don’t want to worry about doing the pass later because I have other games to play my premium stuff plus I really liked it ramming low tiers does make me smile although rhm shouldn’t be a good idea unless good trade for you And the gun is perfect 👍 for blocking body shots it’s chunky but for sure if you own everything else then the tank is just for collecting I’m hoping they do unbuff give it back that better speed it had in first place

[@liebie4436]

The second you see QB put vents on this tank is the second you click of the video…

[@g.d.graham2446]

?

[@lbhibbert]

Releasing tanks that are so bad, almost forcing you to spend money on Premiums, is pretty much the reason I hardly play the game any more. Thanks for the review QB I do enjoy your channel.

[@rupertaitchison715]

Maybe this just shows how over powered the Swedish heavies are

[@douglasfranklin9701]

tank gunners don't look through the main gun breach to engage targets. there is almost always gunnery parallax.

[@QuickyBabyTV]

Sure, but that's not how it works in game, this is clearly bugged.

[@stephendverner]

Has the viewport thing been fixed?

[@srgshadow538]

im interrested in the cobra but in the end i dont know yet what to pick up

[@markbaker8004]

Lol. WG not getting me back playing with awards like this. Enjoying other games and not seeing any reason to return. Too bad, since I enjoyed WOT for 8 years; just not over the last 3. Your commitment to WOT is heroic. Too bad there isn’t a worthy alternative game.

[@RD-ke8mz]

No need to say you should NOT BUY those 2 new prem tanks. Choose the bond equipments or something else. QB could make it EASY from the beginning.

[@JWQweqOPDH]

Bounty, not bond

[@oldewolfe6968]

So while it said VERSITILE Heavy, it's really a Support Heavy at Best... Because you need others to take the Heat while you wait for the Opportunity to Shoot Someone... That Thumbnail Snap at the End, it looks like it has a Case of Lazy Eye too... lol

[@tambarlas5248]

So they released a balanced reward tank? The issue is Concept and Phase are OP...

[@txp-tuff4358]

Viewport positioning = attempt at being more realistic? This is basically like the barrel alignment switching slightly L&R depending on active barrel on two-gun tanks.

[@therealyoda6172]

no no no no no. just think about it for half a second

[@robertw2926]

After 3 seconds of the vid you sold me as to why I will not be acquiring this tank.

[@Ocedition]

Why would you put a turbo if the dpm is so bad

[@bloodmoney88]

Channel 4: so... you're saying; it's shit?!

[@QuickyBabyTV]

yes

[@eskimolost2012]

hope the cobra well have be for 18 tokens by season 9

[@subby280]

The Cobra's DPM is 1300 at tier 9 😳😳

[@tacticalmechtank5556]

Wg is helping us to spend token on those bounty equipment without regret not getting the tank lol Tbh, the AE is my threshold of choosing bp reward tanks. If the tank is below that, skip.

[@iwantlee9510]

I’ll try to get Kunze panzer and a bond turbo.

[@revnedm7562]

Console the tank is decent. Its a medium with better ground resistance and they give it a auto loader. Why does it not have the auto loader

[@rickjones2142]

Thanks QB I will be getting bounty equip

[@Orcone]

QB be like. "This soup has no taste, needs more turbo."