Lorry Driver DISQUALIFIED - SD60SNV HGV Truck

Not only was he on the phone, but he had rolled across the stop line for the red traffic light. HGVs comprise 5% of London traffic, but are involved in 50% of London traffic fatalities. HGVs are the one vehicle I will always do my best to check for phone use.
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[@Larry]

The fact he was sat at a green light while staring at his phone, shows how easily distracted he was. You took a potential killer off the roads.

[@IThinkItsMe]

Yeah there's no way he checked his left mirror for cyclists.

[@trebuh]

Well, hello you!

[@evo4ralliart]

You may want too check the video again the green light was for the cyclist not the little truck

[@CraigNiel]

@@evo4ralliart Yes there was a green light for the cyclist but the traffic light also went to green for the vehicles and he just sat there. Now, there is an argument that he was distracted by Mikey talking to him but even after Mikey engaged him in conversation he went straight back to looking at his phone with vehicles behind blaring the horns because he wasn't moving. So yes, he did sit at a green light.

[@mickythemooch6136]

@@evo4ralliart You need to check the video again, that's why traffic were blowing horns.

[@lindaj5492]

No pity for an HGV driver using his phone while in control of a huge vehicle. Remember an entire family was slaughtered by an HGV driver on A34.

[@PedroConejo1939]

I drive that road often and am always alert to slowing or queued traffic ahead, and looking for an escape route when joining them.

[@NightEagle256]

Lets not forget that horrific A1(M) crash as well. Was so bad that the lorry that caused it even caught on fire and crushed so many innocents in their stationary cars. That is what using a phone while driving can do

[@PedroConejo1939]

@@NightEagle256 I made reference to that in my comment about the video, but about 75% of my OP comments here disappear, never to be seen again.

[@StevieSpiers-ru3mf]

That family lived in my road and the woman dated one of my mates and married another, who was the father of the murdered kids.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

A lot of businesses require their drivers to use iPhones as work tools, to get deliveries signed for on the phone, and to throw more jobs at drivers as well as harass them if they stop for legal breaks during the day..... Businesses track and harass drivers that way....

[@JBroMCMXCI]

Better he loses his license than an innocent person loses their life.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

A lot of businesses require their drivers to use iPhones as work tools, to get deliveries signed for on the phone, and to throw more jobs at drivers as well as harass them if they stop for legal breaks during the day..... Businesses track and harass drivers that way....

[@82vitt]

@@JohnSmith-pl2bk Yeah, bollocks. Do they also require them to scroll through dating websites what the HGV driver was doing when he crashed his lorry into stationary traffic on the A1 killing 3 people and injuring several others?

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@82vitt Thee are always circumstances well outside "work related" matters...even for Police????

[@82vitt]

@@JohnSmith-pl2bk Grass your employer up to the Traffic Commissioner then if they are bullying you into answering work related phone calls or text messages when you are in control of your work vehicle on a public highway for if you cause an accident you will be the one who will get the full blame and suffer consequences, and not them.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@82vitt I resigned as nothing I could do would make working there any better.... I had been asked by HGV inspectors "Do you know how bad these guys are to work for?" at a roadside inspection... and I had already had a long legal battle (which I won) with a previous employer) so I could afford to wave sayonara... They were taken over by another company shortly after....

[@andreashaynes3346]

The most serious of offences and no sympathy. Drivers have got to do better. Well done Mikey 👍👍👍

[@Zerpentsa6598]

Have some pity. He probably has family in Poland or Ukraine to support.

[@amongsamsung9656]

​@@Zerpentsa6598no, I don't have

[@robkeenan9178]

@@Zerpentsa6598have some sense and not be xenaphobic it’s not a good look

[@stum8374]

What about ALL people using the roads do better !! 😊

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

A lot of businesses require their drivers to use iPhones as work tools, to get deliveries signed for on the phone, and to throw more jobs at drivers as well as harass them if they stop for legal breaks during the day..... Businesses track and harass drivers that way....

[@davemoody1763]

Why on earth would you even consider going near your phone while driving if you already had points and rely on your licence for your job? 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

A lot of businesses require their drivers to use iPhones as work tools, to get deliveries signed for on the phone, and to throw more jobs at drivers as well as harass them if they stop for legal breaks during the day..... Businesses track and harass drivers that way....

[@godofcycling]

​@JohnSmith-pl2bk I used to work for DPD and there is no excuse for using any electronic device whilst driving. You may as well say it is OK to speed because firms put pressure on the drivers?

[@bigted1347]

​@@JohnSmith-pl2bkif driver's stop staring at their phones whilst driving, what are these companies going to do ? Fire everyone ? I don't think so . That's an excuse

[@aprilia1000cc]

They do it all the time, I’ve even seen them watching videos 😩

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

It's called Buttheaded Arrogance, it kills people.

[@djtaylorutube]

When I was young, drink drivers were the issue. At least back then, you know that most of them were at around 11:30pm kicking out time. Phone drivers are all day long.

[@thomascarroll9556]

Yes and when they had to tell their friends they had a criminal conviction, either they or a friend would say “oh it’s only drink driving” wasn’t considered serious by the offenders as phone use is now, the DVLA should send every registered keeper a summary of DD who have lost their licences.

[@lindaj5492]

So focused on his phone he didn’t notice you, nor that lights had changed 😡

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

A lot of businesses require their drivers to use iPhones as work tools, to get deliveries signed for on the phone, and to throw more jobs at drivers as well as harass them if they stop for legal breaks during the day..... Businesses track and harass drivers that way....

[@lindaj5492]

@@JohnSmith-pl2bk Then the police should check phone records to see if the phone was being used for business - and ‘have a word’ with the company. Or charge them with inciting a crime?

[@bjthedjdutchdude1992]

And did not close the rear door

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

​@@JohnSmith-pl2bkYou again? That's a load of nonsense, any company forcing its drivers to behave like that would quickly lose its operating license.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@ChrisPatrick-q6k Sorry; personal experience. When stopped twice in two days by different Commercial vehicle inspectors each time I was told "You do realise you are working for a shit company? I knew the law and the tickets were given to the company...not me as the driver...based on my company issued iPhone records. I quit that company shortly after.

[@TheMrWoodsman]

Zero sympathy for this driver, you just can’t do that, I am glad he is no longer on the road.

[@colinjava8447]

You would have done the same thing though probably under the exact same conditions that he was under.

[@amongsamsung9656]

​@@colinjava8447bullshiits

[@robkeenan9178]

@@colinjava8447the same thing as what? Using your phone and not paying attention

[@colinjava8447]

@@robkeenan9178 Yes that.

[@risingstorm4239]

​@@colinjava8447stop eating crayons

[@Zerpentsa6598]

Imagine a truck bearing down on you as the driver is texting on his phone. Happened to many cars at tailbacks crushed by such drivers.

[@robdavies82]

About 2-3 years ago, an HGV driver ploughed into stationary traffic on the A1 near me in Co. Durham…multiple fatalities and is one of the worst accidents police had to deal with. The driver had been on a dating app whilst driving and didn’t see that the traffic ahead had some to a stop. Police released dashcam footage of it to raise awareness and even had the driver record his own plea from prison for other drivers to stop using phones. I really hope they remove his license, as these vehicles are so dangerous if not driven properly.

[@Shylo2017]

I watched that. Ian Onut, or something like that?

[@PedroConejo1939]

Yes, I've just referenced that in my comment. Harrowing viewing, but nothing compared to what the victims and their families suffered.

[@dukestt5436]

yes, i watched that. And of course now he is prison he is all "sorry" and "I messed up my life", i was absolutely screaming at my computer watching it. still makes me mad even now.

[@CyclingMikey]

There have been a number of these similar to Ionut's crash.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

A lot of businesses require their drivers to use iPhones as work tools, to get deliveries signed for on the phone, and to throw more jobs at drivers as well as harass them if they stop for legal breaks during the day..... Businesses track and harass drivers that way....

[@davidyoung9561]

When I was a bus driver, the policy was instant dismissal if you were caught using your phone. When I was driving, my phone was always on silent and in my bag. Well done for the result in getting this driver off the road. A few years back, a young lady lost her life because someone in a 7.5 tonne lorry crashed into her car in a queue on the motorway. The lorry was doing 56mph and the driver was texting on the phone but failed to see the traffic was already stationary. The young lady was on her way to work. The lorry driver was jailed. I can't believe that despite all the known fatalities associated with such an offence, people still use the phone behind the wheel. It should be a mandatory 12 month ban and a minimum of £1000 fine. Well done Mikey for catching this one. It also seemed he just didn't care.

[@colinjava8447]

I remember this one... "Moment lorry driver crashes and kills three people after browsing adult dating sites" put that into youtube, he killed 3 people cause he was on his phone. Its complacency that is, he's got away with it 100 times so doesn't think about the consequences. When I drive I wait till I'm sure its safe before I mess with the radio or air conditioning or whatever, its not worth going into the back of a car that's just slowed down whilst you were looking away for a couple of seconds. Better option is to wait till you've stopped at lights before you mess with anything (except phone).

[@philipreid2542]

Is that the guy who was interviewed from jail? That video should be mandatory viewing for any trainee driver

[@NightEagle256]

@@philipreid2542 That's the guy who caused that horrific A1(M) crash. Polish if I remember correctly. He was at least accepting of what he did Sometimes I wonder when watching these CM vids, the only way these phone drivers learn is the moment they kill someone and they get sentenced to prison

[@colinjava8447]

@@philipreid2542 Yes.. its this one... "Lorry driver who caused 3 death crash while using phone speaks from prison" I actually saw it on a tv documentary as well.

[@paulcollyer801]

@@philipreid2542, I think we covered that in one of our Driver CPCs a few years back now.

[@stum8374]

It's going to get worse with ev's and stupid screens.....I wonder if you crash you can sue the ev manufacturers of such cars !! After all those car drivers haven't a choice of how to IE put the volume up/down.

[@johnswarbrick2365]

I see HGV drivers on the motorways all the time. Have even seen them watching DVD players mounted on their dash.

[@lindaj5492]

Company owners should have those dvd players removed: and sack the driver if s/he installed it.

[@stum8374]

​​@@lindaj5492 you don't know what your talking about,I take it you aren't away for wks sleeping a7 x 7 tin can in all weather 😂😂😂😂 I have and it boring as hell if you haven't anything to do,as ussual car drivers thinking they are the only ones on the roads 😂😂

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

A lot of businesses require their drivers to use iPhones as work tools, to get deliveries signed for on the phone, and to throw more jobs at drivers as well as harass them if they stop for legal breaks during the day..... Businesses track and harass drivers that way....

[@marcothorsen950]

HGV drivers with Lap tops out in the Cab is not unusual.. Ive seen this reckless dangerous act a few times now.. Swerving from Lane to Lane.. Scary as hell..

[@ALNOE_]

A HGV driver killed a young girl aged 23 back in 2009 or so. Was featured on the show TrafficCops. It happened because he was using this cab phone and even proceeded to take it out of the hold to mess around with it. Which ended in a huge pileup as cars were stopped ahead. Completely crushed the young girls car and killing her instantly. Just shows how a phone can distract.

[@bjthedjdutchdude1992]

I remember that episode. The car those girls were in was a Peugeot 206. And the phone of the lorry driver was still scrolling the contact list

[@jimblain521]

I remember this episode also if I remember right the driver hit the young girls car so hard that it ended up underneath the lorry

[@t5jerry]

Under NO circumstances feel sorry for that HGV driver , plonkers like that should NOT have the “ privilege “ to hold a driving licence, people tend to forget that it’s not your “ right “ to have a driving license, it’s a hard earned privilege, justice was served fairly in this case 😊

[@Calmdriver]

You say the driver may lose his HGV licence as well. If you lose your licence you lose it for all categories on it whether that be moped, motorbike, car, truck or bus. If you don't get a disqualification the traffic commissioner can still remove the HGV or bus entitlement from the licence.

[@AlanBeads-bo3wz]

It's not a HGV. It's a 7.5t truck. Big difference. Cycling Mikey is a true hero of the lycra clad sex case brigade.

[@KazeHorse]

You know you’re wrong, right? HGV is any goods vehicle over 3.5t. Don’t believe me? Give it a quick check yourself.

[@m0lsx]

An 7.5 vehicle is not an HGV, but a large van. The current licence requirement is C1. HGV is C for a ridged & C + E for a semi articulated. Anyone who passed a driving test before sometime around 2000, would automatically be given 7.5 ton entitlement.

[@Rigstig1]

1997 if I remember rightly

[@JustSomeVideos0]

No pity. Completely self created situation. At least he didn't try and defend it and drag you to court.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

A lot of businesses require their drivers to use iPhones as work tools, to get deliveries signed for on the phone, and to throw more jobs at drivers as well as harass them if they stop for legal breaks during the day..... Businesses track and harass drivers that way....

[@checker3694]

I was on my motorbike and a 7.5 tonne driver in Northamptonshire was smoking a joint 3 vehicles in front of me, i smell it now virtually on a daily basis.i called his company,a small landscapes company, the lady said they had a 100 plus vehicles, googled them and picture showed less than 10. She hung up on me.

[@CyclingMikey]

I'd probably report that to police, and then they can put an ANPR marker on the vehicle and there's a chance they get stopped and drugs tested.

[@RonSeymour1]

You could phone her back and say that if he has an accident, perhaps killing someone, then you will make a statement under oath to say that because they have been warned, they would be liable for damages and prosecution. Keep a record of the call. See her change her tune.

[@sweetvuvuzela4634]

Surely total ban is required not only hgv but also any motor vehicles wimpy too risky and unnecessary risk

[@havok9001]

also the driver who lose there license must go back to driving school any ways with learn all traffic laws as will like not to be on cell phone when driving at all with alot of testing if fit to drive again

[@donvanvliet9477]

He was totally disqualified from driving. CM's reference to the TC is (I think) that his HGV would be removed too meaning that when he can drive on the road again he still cant drive an HGV.,

[@calibrax]

That's a Mercedes van, vehicle type N2 which is a light goods vehicle, not an HGV.

[@CyclingMikey]

LGV means large goods vehicle, and is synonymous with HGV. Any vehicle over 3.5 tonnes is classed as HGV/LGV.

[@calibrax]

@@CyclingMikey Wrong. It is under 7.5 tonnes and I can drive one on my regular car licence as it has C1 classification. I do NOT need an HGV licence to drive it.

[@CyclingMikey]

The internet doesn't agree with you. You can only drive this class with grandfather rights, or you need to do a proper test and a CPC. It is still defined as an HGV.

[@paulcollyer801]

So to clear this lil spat up, 3.5tonne to 7.tonne is C1, aka MGV, Medium Goods Vehicle. To drive for a living you’re required to have the licence, digital tacho card & driver CPC card. You’re restricted to the rules of the RTD & Tacho, even IF, as I did, you passed before Jan 1st 1997 & got it on Grandfather Rights. Further, when taking my Cat C training, my instructor was very clear, those who got C1 on grandfather rights and drove them regular were hard to train due to way too many bad habits, & I was one of those. My driving standard was raised & I kept all those good habits across the board.

[@calibrax]

@@paulcollyer801No, you can LEGALLY drive an N2 class vehicle for a living without any extra training, as long as you already have C1 on your licence. I know several delivery drivers working for the likes of Amazon who do this.

[@PastorOink]

There seems to be many commenters showing absolutely no sympathy for the man that he's lost his livelihood. I wonder how many of these commenters are saints and have never once driven dangerously themselves in their lives.. I know the guy was wrong, but I still feel sorry for the guy, it's a huge punishment to loose your job like that

[@martynmiller4247]

Well done sir. Thanks to you I have learnt something. Outside of Bath railway station a while ago (before I'd discovered your YT channel) I saw a lady in a Range Rover cross a pedestrian crossing against red lights (people were crossing on a "green man") and then stop in traffic. I ran after her and knocked on her car window to discover she was on her 'phone. I told her she had driven through a red light and being on her 'phone while driving was illegal. She told me to "f**k off" raised her window and drove away. Next time I'll get her number plate. Thank you again.

[@MrPhil1503]

The blind spots are much worse on a truck or HGV, the driver's attention should always be outside the cab...deadly habit

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

A lot of businesses require their drivers to use iPhones as work tools, to get deliveries signed for on the phone, and to throw more jobs at drivers as well as harass them if they stop for legal breaks during the day..... Businesses track and harass drivers that way....

[@jfc4798]

​@@JohnSmith-pl2bkwe've got the point. You don't need to spam with the same comment.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@jfc4798 Very few people take the time to read through all or even many of the comments... they seem to demand their point be the be all and end all...or require an individual answer. so for those people I give the same point for consideration???? The original commenter seems to either accept that or ignore that...only people like you and I who read multiple comments see "the same answer"... I don't comment because I realise why.... It's the equivalent of FAQ's...the answer is the same....

[@andrewgilbertson5356]

Thank you C. M.

[@Johnny-sj9sj]

HGV drivers have changed quite a bit over the years. In the 70s I was driving an arctic through the UK, Europe and 'Iron Curtain' Countries. We were always regarded as the Knights of the Road; not any more!

[@CyclingMikey]

TBF nowadays many lorry drivers are still excellent. It's a huge responsibility and I see loads of lorry drivers taking their jobs very seriously.

[@PedroConejo1939]

To be fair, most HGV drivers are excellent, but maybe the number of those who fall short has increased, probably in proportion to the increase in ropey car drivers.

[@beastieboy3926]

If he already had points and blatantly sits there using his phone again in a busy area shows he has no respect for the law ,or worse other road users. Deserves everything he got.

[@philipreid2542]

You'd think that after all the 'HGV hits cyclist' stories over the last few years (everyone must've heard at least one), phone use behind the wheel of one would be a thing of the past. Apparently not. Certain "road safety" campaigns that shift the responsibility from driver to cyclist dont exactly help either.

[@philipreid2542]

@lordrupertknob1882 yes, and? I'm not saying we shouldn't cycle safely. My point was that this driver clearly expects other road users to be fully responsible for their own safety, otherwise he wouldn't be using his phone

[@paulcollyer801]

@lordrupertknob1882, all the More reason to NOT play with yer darned phone. I’ve driven artics through London, and keep real sharp eyes open for just that reason. Have avoided a couple of fatals that way, one cyclist, one pedestrian. Rather miss a text than spend hours doing that paperwork and having a very unpleasant interview

[@konradc12]

There is a comment from someone who wasn't aware of lorry incidents mentioned, until he viewed this video! Everyone is in their own world, so unless incidents filter through they won't know. This especially the phone zombies that only watch Tik Tok!

[@Ezekiel_Burton]

@lordrupertknob1882 Your first thing to do is deflect and rant about bad cyclists, which is not even on topic. We are talking about phone use while operating large vehicles. Shows what kind of person, and driver, you are

[@sonyaphelvin2523]

7.5 tonners, not hgv but the rear shutters are up which always says no good riff raff drivers and operators!

[@a.h.7788]

I have seen a video of an hgv driver on his phone crashing into cars, it was horrific and people lost their lives. Thank you Mikey, keep reporting these drivers please.

[@Dušan-o1q]

Lorry driver here. Too many lorry drivers using mobile phone I see every day on motorway. Especially from abroad they think it's normal.

[@jisoo1571]

Just imagine if you hadn’t spoken to him, the drivers behind would beep and then he’d just jump forwards. Could’ve been anybody crossing and easily hidden with his size. These people annoy me most.

[@jasonsansome5579]

I was heavily rear ended by a prat in an Audi a couple of years ago. Sat in stationary traffic, huge bang from behind and hit so hard, I almost went into the vehicle in front of me. The Audi driver "sorry mate, I was just crawling and had to swerve into you to avoid that motorbike". No motorbike went past me, my car was caved in at the back and the Audi was wrecked from the dashboard forward... Truth... Audi driver on phone, doing about 50, looks up and sees traffic jam.. uses me as braking zone! Jumped out of car rather quickly, despite very sore back due to having just filled up with petrol and didn't fancy being seat belted into a 70 litre bomb! No proper sleep for a fortnight, due to flashbacks.Nevermind 6 points, instant ban.. only way to stop these selfish, over entitled idiots!

[@MarkFromEastleigh]

Driver went to court and got taken to the cleaners

[@Umski]

Ouch😆 No sympathy for "professional" drivers caught like this - you'd think they'd be more attentive to the fact that they need to rely on having a licence to do their job 🙄

[@hyllaf]

Mike is the Sheriff in London which we didn't know we needed

[@techscreen321]

Zero sympathy for this fella, he didn't care about road safety, the drivers sat behind him, or even being filmed. Let's hope he never drives a HGV ever again!

[@GilesWendes]

always, always report. Never know who we get off the roads.

[@mrcellophane99]

I gave up the right to drive one of those last year when I had to renew my licence. I felt that as I had never driven one in 52 years I wasn't likely to drive one in the future.

[@martj1313]

You don't need a HGV license for a little lorry like that.

[@terrytopliss9506]

No excuse what so ever,especially if your income depends on your driving licence.

[@Buckets41369]

Lights on green, cars behind pressuring with the horn, did the driver check any blind spots before moving off? No.

[@phillwainewright4221]

A 7.5T puddlejumper isn't an HGV. Anyone who has held a full car licence long enough can drive one. A proper HGV requires a further test.

[@nuttyslack]

Nice. How long do you have to hold your car licence before you get your automatic C1 entitlement?

[@BedsitBob]

@@nuttyslack You needed to have had your full Category B (ie. car) licence before 1st January 1997. For anyone getting their full licence after that, C1 never gets added automatically. You would have to take and pass the C1 test, in order to gain it

[@phillwainewright4221]

@@nuttyslack If you passed your test before January 1997, you've got 'Grandfather Rights', otherwise you have to take a test.

[@pauldeal68]

U sound like a class 1 bore

[@Shylo2017]

Nice to see him disqualified. Oblivious and stupid. At least he didn't argue though - he knew! But, at 1:50 ish, isn't a green light 'proceed when clear', or is that just for 'normal' traffic lights? Genuinely interested as you pointing the finger at the Kia driver seemed a bit unnecessary, unless of course he ran the red light which he may have done on second viewing.

[@CyclingMikey]

I went behind him, safely. I'm pretty sure he went through a red light which is the only reason he got a finger waggle.

[@Shylo2017]

@@CyclingMikey Yep, you did, to be fair. On second reflection it did look like he may have run a red light but maybe it looked worse due to the slow-moving traffic. Completely understand why you pointed at him.

[@bradfordzone5187]

Not sure why you are defending people running a red light. Before a light goes green, others have to go red first. It's how traffic lights work.

[@Shylo2017]

@@bradfordzone5187 I have to assume you're talking to me? At what point did I defend anyone running a red light? I can't remember... For the record, as with most people, I am obviously disgusted by red light jumpers, but I was simply pointing out that - regardless of if somebody has run a red light or not - you are supposed to wait until it is clear before you proceed. Aren't you? It's in the highway code, I'm fairly certain. Green isn't a signal to floor it no matter what. Nor is it telling you to set off and make an event out of nothing. Mikey didn't quite do that in this clip but some would have taken it to another level and tried to drive/cycle into the Kia to make a point when it's totally unnecessary. Do you get my point? So no, I'm not defending red light jumpers. I'm trying to speak from a reasonable point of view.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

A lot of businesses require their drivers to use iPhones as work tools, to get deliveries signed for on the phone, and to throw more jobs at drivers as well as harass them if they stop for legal breaks during the day..... Businesses track and harass drivers that way....

[@ringstinga]

Keep up the great work Mikey just wish there was more like you to stop this epidemic on our roads !

[@realcdcruze3558]

There is zero excuse for any driver operating a phone behind the wheel. It’s proven your reaction time is slower which contributes to more damage and possible injury.

[@Ian-bv8rf]

Out there literally saving lives, keep it up mate 👍

[@kingcobrauk]

Yes he was but he wasn't moving so I don't see the problem, how is he likely to have an accident ?

[@CyclingMikey]

Stationary phone drivers are still dangerous for many reasons: 1) The people using their phones when stationary are very often the same people using them when moving. They only put the phone down because I caught them. 2) They are entirely unaware of people crossing the road around them. See here where a phone driver almost hits someone in the queue twitter.com/phonekills/status/1491526464520560641?s=20 See this other tweet where a 5 year old child is almost hit by a phone driver who was stationary: x.com/cmdkenyon/status/1724483042046067052?s=20 And another: x.com/WelshBrendan2/status/1796099766557774129 3) They are entirely unaware of filtering cyclists and motorcyclists, despite the Highway Code requiring us to be aware of this. 4) Phone distraction lasts for a good time after you put the phone away. Even if you're only using the phone in each traffic queue at each junction (which is highly unlikely), then you're constantly topping up your mental distraction and are basically as disabled as a drunk driver. 5) Phone driving is worse than drink driving for distraction rates, and that's why it's part of the #Fatal4 behaviours that police target heavily. 6) Here's a police officer telling you that he has been on the scene for 3 fatal RTCs involving drivers who were stationary whilst using their phones, and then moved off and caused a collision: twitter.com/markandcharlie/status/1604073330751197184?s=20&t=uj8sgu7spu4cTyDqqqds2g 7) Policing phone drivers will help them stop other traffic offences too - it's vanishingly rare that someone only breaks a single traffic law like mobile phone use. 8) Parliament recently chose to strengthen the mobile phone law around stationary phone use because it's dangerous and the science supports this. I'm really not interested in this nonsense of "it's not dangerous when stationary, because it clearly is and it's clearly still very appropriate to catch these drivers.

[@loftyintentions1985]

He didn't have a clue there were people on the other side trying to cross. He didn't even know the light was green. Go operate heavy machinery with your eyes closed and come tell us all how safe it is🤦🏻‍♂️

[@allanmanley6340]

Well done Mikey, you took a dangerous driver off the street. He should NEVER be allowed to drive a truck ever again.

[@Einfach_Dave]

Even tho i live in Germany... THANK YOU for making the roads saver!

[@christopherbailey712]

That isn’t strictly a hgv… a hgv you have to take various tests to drive that 7.5 tonne vehicle a car driver can jump in it and drive it.

[@JurivonStolzenberg14]

I am a truck driver. I had a car driver beside my trailer on wet M 62 at 50 mph , he finally managed to get past me in his sporty Audi A 6 and he WAS STILL TEXTING ON HAND HELD FONE.

[@CyclingMikey]

It's shocking behaviour!

[@thetraveller869]

I agree no-one should be using a phone whilst driving but 7.5 tonners are no longer HGV’s.

[@briantestro2659]

If he is now unemployed , l feel sorry for his family if he has one .

[@owlinthewood]

I feel even more sorry for anyone who’s lost a family member because of a careless or dangerous driver.

[@loftyintentions1985]

Shame he wasn't thinking about his family. Or the family(s) of his potential victim(s). No. Instead his only thought was what was on his screen.

[@Swindondrive]

As he eventually drove off he had no idea there was a bike on the other pavement. Now imagine if there was a small child with that bike who didnt stop.

[@killachief187]

Lessons to be learnt for all of us. 😢 my phone goes in my glove box, since watching all of your vids.

[@joline2730]

Well done Mickey - as you know all too well, this behaviour can lead to death - defo NOT funny 😢😢😢

[@youfly777f]

Even when drivers are breaking the law. You have no legal right to stop them. You are neither a constable in uniform nor a traffic officer.

[@CyclingMikey]

Yeah I’m just a witness. Doesn’t change anything I did in this video.

[@Toastypie1]

He didn't stop him at all. He merely pointed out that he probably shouldn't be on the phone. How do people like you make it through the day?

[@CyclingMikey]

@@Toastypie1 I suspect he's just extremely angry that a cyclist can tell him not to break the law in the way I told the lorry driver.

[@williamboot658]

That looks the size of lorry that can be driven on a a car licence. Did the driver hold a HGV licence ?

[@CyclingMikey]

7.5 tonner, so I would think so.

[@shm5547]

Just checked my car licence and I can drive that without needing an HGV licence. But I passed my test in the 90's, at some point they did change the rules, so someone who passed their test more recently would not be allowed to.

[@paulcollyer801]

Prior to ‘97 you got C1 with your car licence but to drive for work, you still need a tacho card & driver cpc. It’s MGV class

[@80skid83]

Grandad rights I believe is the term, so any license pre 97 has 7.5t on it and also D1 I believe. Think it also has scooter on there up to 125cc

[@shm5547]

@@80skid83 I have got AM class on my licence, so I can ride a 50cc moped (31mph limit) without needing to do a CBT or pass a motorcycle licence. I think you need a CBT for anything over that.

[@StevieSpiers-ru3mf]

Come to Luton Mikey, every other driver is in their ohone, and the police turn a blind eye.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

A lot of businesses require their drivers to use iPhones as work tools, to get deliveries signed for on the phone, and to throw more jobs at drivers as well as harass them if they stop for legal breaks during the day..... Businesses track and harass drivers that way....

[@gregorydobson4307]

Seen plenty of hgv's on m62 doing 60mph on the phone and some even watching KZbin. No wonder we see these horrific incidents. 😢

[@martinryder6910]

Not sure if 7.5 tons is classified as HGV. I could be wrong

[@CyclingMikey]

Any vehicle over 3.5 tonnes.

[@ditch3827]

@@CyclingMikey At that is the total weight including cargo.

[@paulcollyer801]

3.5-7.5tonne is MGV, driving professionally still require a tacho card & driver cpc

[@ETr4d3]

@@paulcollyer801 in most of Europe, I believe, vehicles are in 2 major tax categories, LGV under 3.5t, and HGV over 3.5t. I said tax categories, not license categories. So, calling a 3.5t vehicle an HGV is correct.

[@80skid83]

7.5t is obviously heavy goods , so therefore hgv

[@MrPantss]

There have been some horrific accidents with lorry drivers, good for you! Well done Mikey, keep up the good work.

[@byEckyThump]

He’s well over the line where he should have stopped, hard up to the broken line where pedestrians cross, reflects badly on his general attitude as well as illegal use of his ‘phone! Shouldn’t be driving. No sympathy at all with this one. Well done Mikey.

[@Brendan-q2j]

Hate the thought of any body losing their livelihood, What a mess this will be for him and his family.

[@CyclingMikey]

I also hate the thought of the possibility of him carrying on and then possibly killing someone and ending their life and destroying their family as a result. Have a watch of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKHclomdqtBojK8

[@geoffpoole483]

He's only got himself to blame.

[@Mozza107]

Is 7.5 classed as HGV?

[@_______-]

These days it's anything over 3.5T. When I passed my test in the early 90s I was able to drive up to 7.5T, but that's now changed.

[@CyclingMikey]

I think you can still drive up to 7.5 tonne if you have a pre-1997 licence, but you have to do your CPC.

[@paulcollyer801]

It’s actually MGV, but no pedantry. Driver CPC only needed for driving them for professional reasons; if, for example, you’re driving your horses about, not for a living, no CPC or tacho required in

[@Mozza107]

Ah, ok. Thanks for the clarification. My parents moved house in the '90's and I was asked to go in the cab to make sure the removals guys knew the way. 60 miles down the M25 in a 7.5t lorry. The driver was 19. I declined the invitation.

[@archstanton5603]

No sympathy for this driver and well done to Mikey for enabling this person to be call to account for this actions via a points on his license. Presumably his previous points had not been a sufficient deterrent..

[@ARBC2024]

Justice served, but I had to go back to using normal flavoured linen, as I couldn't get my Mint ones delivered in time.

[@emamotorbiker]

You report a lot of drivers in a queue. In the Netherlands it's allowed to use your phone while being stuck in a queue or while waiting for traffic lights. I'm certainly not a fan of that. I suppose your "hobby" wouldn't be so easy here! Did you know those existing legal differences?

[@shm5547]

when they're intently tapping like that, it's likely they're having a drawn out conversation, probably more distraction and phone use to come. Thank you for reporting them and thanks to the police for taking a dangerous driver off our roads.

[@veloman59]

Great work Mikey - this could potentially could have been a driver involved in the 50% of fatalities you mention. It's tough but it's also hard to feel sympathy for him. Would he also consider if it had been another HGV driver using their phone and causing a fatality with a member of his own family - how he'd feel.

[@simontaylor2319]

I don't have a mobile phone, prefering to rely on carrier pigeons

[@benws8246]

See this all the time in Lincolnshire. We have OP Snap here. I've reported nearly 200 offenders (mostly close passes, but get many phone users and red light jumpers) and most have been deemed worthy of follow up by Lincs police. Unfortunately, their prosecution rate is absolutely tiny, so I've never been called to court and I would say most, if not all of the drivers I report only get a warning letter.

[@CyclingMikey]

TBH most of mine get FPNs, I believe, and I'm only called to court for 1-2% of cases. I think that's because most realise they have no chance when they see the quality of a GoPro video showing their phone use.

[@benws8246]

@@CyclingMikey OK. Still better than my area where it's mostly warning letters. I use a GoPro too.

[@derekcorby5918]

He can drive a 7 ton on an ordinary car license. So not sure how long his ban may bev

[@kpjlflsknflksnflknsa]

Fantastic work. The lives you saved will be none the wiser but you're a saint.

[@CyclingMikey]

Thank you kindly. I’m more of a leg end to be honest.

[@jamie-hb8gy]

The reason HGV's are involved in more accidents is because of the idiots in cars not knowing how much they need and sit in their blind spot.

[@middleman9183]

.........and because they drive recklessly and too fast

[@CyclingMikey]

I don't think you can excuse all HGV involved collisions like that. Have a google of Dennis Putz and Joao Lopes.

[@davidmonk5918]

HGV driver in the wrong and yet a car driver blatantly jumped a red light and his punishment was you waving a finger at him saying naughty naughty Bit of a difference in punishments considering the car drivers actions probably more dangerous than the HGV driver

[@CyclingMikey]

I don't think the Met would prosecute that RLJing driver without me showing both their traffic light as red and them crossing the stop line, so I didn't have enough evidence to report them. Given that RLJing is only 3 points, and phone use is 6 points, I don't think you're right on the relative risk either.

[@davidmonk5918]

Keep up the good work Mike

[@jamiewhite8641]

Hi Mikey, your cause is admirable and I like watching your videos. I feel a little uneasy that these people are loosing their livelihoods, have you considered doing training for taxis and lorry companies so they don’t use their phones in the first place? I hope you don’t take this the wrong way as I know it’s dangerous to use a mobile phone behind the wheel 👍

[@CyclingMikey]

TBH drivers know very well that they aren't allowed to use their phones. I don't think training is the answer, but prosecution is. Here's some of my thinking around why talking to drivers doesn't work: Speaking generally, you might think people will change after just being spoken to, but here's my experience: * Almost no driver will change their law breaking behaviours if I, just an "oik on a bike" ask them to. * A few drivers will change their ways after a police officer gives them words of advice. Most drivers will just go back to doing whatever they did wrong, such as using the phone an hour or a day later. * Most people will change their ways after being prosecuted for lawbreaking like this, and yet still some will continue to re-offend until banned. * A few banned drivers will still continue to offend after regaining their licences. * A very few banned drivers will still drive when banned. The break-point in effectiveness is prosecution - drivers need to be prosecuted to have much chance of altering their behaviour(s) for the better. My views and experience are confirmed by a several of traffic officers who tell me exactly the same.

[@Ezekiel_Burton]

@@CyclingMikey There has to be consequences for their actions or they will never learn. Some people ONLY learn the hard way, that's how it is.

[@sueronhaworth5713]

NOT HGV a bread van.

[@doug7844]

No such thing as a bread van. It’s a HGV class 2.

[@michaelk6989]

Good job mikey .we all on your side. Continue the excellent work you are doing .

[@JohnSmithShields]

He banned himself, no sympathy.

[@JB-ek4yx]

Knowing the penalties, he chose to lose his licence & job when he picked up his phone.

[@MYCROFTonX]

I fully support you doing this and others like you too. In the same way I support all the added costs of travelling in Cities these days. My Eldest owns a logistics company in the Oxford to Central London corridor and in the past the competition for work was fierce, now people are turning their back on London and he can charge (almost) whatever he likes! I occasionally drive for him as cover. The reason te £7 or £8 pint is so common now is because the Logisitcs costs have blossomed because drivers simply don't want to go and risk fines etc etc. From the Cowley (Oxford) surcharge per delivery to Hillingdon and further in, the lack of people wanting the contracts means far more realistic margins for him and his young family. All his vehicles are 'integrated' and I just speak into a microphone for everything, maps, phone, text... everything! There are no excuses, get these cheap delivery merchants off the roads, take their driver's licence's away. I'm needed on Tuesday and Wednesday this week to help out again, it's good money now, courtesy of the £8 pint and the likes of that. Cheers.

[@cedhome7945]

You are right to catch idiots breaking the law but one day shoving a camera in someone's face and telling the I am going to report you might get you assaulted badly. Film them yes ... telling them off make you sound like a kid in the playground.your choice entirely,but be careful

[@Ezekiel_Burton]

It's easy to ride off, they have to OPEN their door and get out, and most drivers aren't exactly athletic compared to someone who cycles everyday.

[@HKSkansei]

It's almost like these "professional drivers" aren't in fact, very professional. I'm not sure what the culture is around heavy vehicle drivers in the UK, but in Australia there is an unfortunately too common idea among them that they can do what they want and that other road users should bow to them because "without trucks Australia stops" (a common refrain among those in the transport industry)

[@robloxfan4271]

nice one mikey, another danger off our roads!

[@itsonlyme9938]

After you told him he should not be using the phone he still carried on using it. A pro driver as he is ? is a disgrace and if he loses his job he has himself only to blame. Feeling sorry for him I would not and as cyclist have reported many car drivers in my case for close pass is very scary and a truck even worse.

[@fishmghee1105]

It's very sad that he's probably lost his job now.

[@stuartbrown8259]

Better he's lost his job than someone else losing their life. If he's using it when stationary, rest assured he is using it driving along the roads at a good speed.

[@geoffpoole483]

He was breaking the law. No sympathy.

[@owlinthewood]

Not as sad as someone losing a member of their family.

[@Ezekiel_Burton]

Should have learnt UK road law then and drove responsibly.

[@BedsitBob]

A 7.5 Tonner isn't actually an HGV. It doesn't require a Category D (aka HGV) licence, so, fortunately for him, the traffic commissioner won't be involved.

[@SabrjnIsaja]

What did you do about the car that you said * every naughty* to

[@CyclingMikey]

Nothing, because I don't think the police would convict without me being able to show their red light and them crossing their stop line at the same time.

[@paulcollyer801]

It’s a difficult one. To guarantee a conviction by police in Mikey’s position, an old salt with roads policing would station himself & his colleague such that they could watch several cycles of the lights to confirm cycle timings. Bodyworn kept as evidence.

[@SabrjnIsaja]

@@CyclingMikey do you find it annoying that some traffic lights change colour so quickly?

[@evilelf5967]

In instances like this with so many road users nowadays,a ban is not going to deter these people in the long run,they'll get back behind the wheel and do it again.they should never have a licence again.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

A lot of businesses require their drivers to use iPhones as work tools, to get deliveries signed for on the phone, and to throw more jobs at drivers as well as harass them if they stop for legal breaks during the day..... Businesses track and harass drivers that way....

[@jamielee-hill449]

Deadly behaviour, zero sympathy.

[@shaneblank5837]

Ppl argue that these drivers keep the economy going but that should not outweigh the safety of all road users. In North America these drivers are so bad they cause accidents all the time. I wish our standards of driver were equal to Europe. Look up Humboldt broncos disaster , they let anyone have a licence in Canada

[@Adventures_with_Sog]

Bad for him but he knows the law. No sympathy for him.

[@ryezio3637]

Never have an ounce of sympathy for these people. He had points on his license and STILL used his phone. Absolutely no excuse.

[@jeffknott1975]

If he drove with people's safety in mind, especially in the biggest and heaviest vehicle on the road, he'd still have his job....no sympathy!

[@jimswheels]

Good job you reported that before he KSI'd anyone (we hope)!

[@JurivonStolzenberg14]

The majn problem I find now are private drivers who have lost orientation and are so brain washed that they blindly follow sat nav. Had 2 on complete wrong side of dual carriageweay coming off a motorway junction! Judgement, spatial awareness, ability to read the road all gine with the wind and sceeen. No brains left. 😅

[@carloseddy1005]

A 10ton fully loaded lorry drove into the back of me in 2011in a static queue ......my car wrote off and had to have the roof cut off to get me out ,5 cars ahead of me was damaged as well.(speed limit was 30 mph there) The road behind me was straight and you could see for a mile ahead................the police couldnt find his phone so he got let off with a £200 fine

[@UlugNaar]

My fiancé was coming home on the bus Friday. The bus driver took his phone and made several calls. My fiancé told him it is not OK to use the phone while driving. The drivers response was "my daughter has an emergency. She is more important than you. Whiner!" This is how we roll here in the Netherlands. I wish we could report to the authorities like you can in the UK.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

You can of course....the bus company and the Police...plus a call to a journalist might get the ball rolling?

[@UlugNaar]

@JohnSmith-pl2bk Yes, it will be reported to the bus company. But the police will do nothing here even with a video. As far as I know.

[@lindaj5492]

Could you have reported that to the Bus company?

[@UlugNaar]

@lindaj5492 Done. But I wish we would have a system to report anyone using phone.