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Lossless Scaling in MSFS 24 - 20x Frame Gen With Any GPU?!

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AirNOTT

AirNOTT

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@matthewward6220
@matthewward6220 14 күн бұрын
I've used 4x frame gen for a while (I'm fortunate that I don't mind some artefacts when moving the camera around), it's so fluid and nice and I can't play without it now, hands down the best few quid I've invested into my sim!
@lazerforce3837
@lazerforce3837 10 күн бұрын
What pc specs u using it with
@matthewward6220
@matthewward6220 9 күн бұрын
@lazerforce3837 CPU: 5800x3d, GPU:3090, Ram: 32gb of 3600 cl16, ssd: samsung 980pro 2tb. Playing at 4k res ultra settings :)
@scalz420
@scalz420 7 күн бұрын
clown
@scalz420
@scalz420 7 күн бұрын
damn i wish i had no brain so i could appreciate fake frames that must be nice
@jonredcorn862
@jonredcorn862 6 күн бұрын
@@scalz420 I truly worry about people that can deal with this bullshit lmao. Like are they actually blind? Not even joking. I think these people can't see well.
@ravenger2445
@ravenger2445 14 күн бұрын
Consider lowering the "resolution scale" option for LSFG. It only reduces the resolution at which motion is processed, and doesn't actually affect the outputted resolution. Setting it to around 80% at 1080p, 70% at 1440p and 50% at 4k is basically free performance.
@darrylcote3971
@darrylcote3971 13 күн бұрын
So why not set it at 25% for more performance? Because it will look bad likely? So, it does affect visuals .
@ravenger2445
@ravenger2445 13 күн бұрын
​@@darrylcote3971 Yes, it has deminishing returns. But at the right values, it has nearly identical quality. In fact, it was finetuned for 1080p, and some find 50% res scale to look better at 4k resolution. I also didn't say that it doesn't affect visuals. It just doesn't affect the resolution, which is what many people misinterpret it to do. THS will most likely change the term "resolution scale" to something else like "optical flow resolution" to avoid confusion.
@ahmadjmms
@ahmadjmms 13 күн бұрын
Most of the time the main issue with msfs2024 is vram. 8gb is not enough on 1440p.
@willgamer12
@willgamer12 9 күн бұрын
@@ahmadjmms It really is not, msfs2020 and 2024 both take a toll heavily on CPU. On an rx6800xt it doesn't really use up that much Vram. The bottleneck is still the 12700k in this case. I can crank or lower the graphics, it doesnt make that much of an impact, VRAM is for resolution of textures and overall resolution.
@fingerhorn4
@fingerhorn4 13 күн бұрын
If I'm sensible with the core settings (like high rather than ULTRA on everything), with a 3070 GPU I find the sweet spot is 2x using 30fps base and 60fps scaling. That saves me forking out on a 4060-4080 GPU which I can ill afford. In almost all but the most complex scenes this makes for a very smooth experience. So for me Lossless Scaling is way better than any other method of FPS improvement. For a few dollars this software is absolutely amazing and a bit of a genuine revolution.
@BongoBrando
@BongoBrando 14 күн бұрын
The biggest thing is you have to have a steady 30fps, or 40fps if you can, it won't work well.
@Gav_Jam
@Gav_Jam 13 күн бұрын
Definitely. I lock at 30 then use framegen to get 60. If native fps dips below 30 then it's not worth it
@MarcL1313
@MarcL1313 13 күн бұрын
I use it with my 2070 Super to get 4k from 12fps to a smooth 36fps.
@AlexBell1991
@AlexBell1991 8 күн бұрын
If you have a Gsync or a free sync monitor, consider doing this to reduce screen tearing and improve input latency. I have a 3080 12GB for reference. AMD may have similar settings in their own control panel. - In game, Vsync OFF. - In Nvidia CP, Vsync ON globally. - In Nvidia CP, Gsync enabled to windows + full screen applications. - In Nvidia CP, make sure LSS Vsync settings is set to "use application settings." in manage 3D programs. - In LS, Vsync set to DEFAULT. - In LS, GSync enabled. (Make sure Gsync or Free Sync is enabled in your monitor settings.) If the game you're playing has reflex support, enable that too. I've been using this for single player and PVE multiplayer games like Helldivers 2 with x2 frame gen and my FPS capped at 72FPS (I play on 144Hz), it worked flawlessly for me. I can deal with minor artefacts as you don't notice them when you're playing but tearing really annoys me. I hope this helps someone.
@greggreg2458
@greggreg2458 7 күн бұрын
Thanks, will try your setting for my 4k 120hz monitor.
@Captainchibbles
@Captainchibbles 13 күн бұрын
As a content creator for MSFS2020 I’d like to chime in here; I play a ton of FPS/Tactical Shooters. As far as these go, frame gen is useless. It generates far too many artifacts and often times you are seriously shooting at afterimages. With flight sim however it is an absolute miracle. I run a 3090TI w/ 12900KS combo, I average 20-30FPS with the A380 @ KSFO all settings ultra. When I turn on frame gen through lossless scaling I get around 80-120FPS. Yes there are artifacts but they only appear if your sensitivity is ridiculously high. Outside of that it’s extremely useful. The only downside is that since it feels exponentially smoother you’ll notice that you’re sometimes moving too fast as the game hasn’t caught up to the images yet. Usually it’s not that big of a deal but it is a drawback to be aware of. Outside of that frame gen is a gift and I highly recommend it to anyone with dated GPUs or lower spec pcs.
@JeebusGG
@JeebusGG 12 күн бұрын
Spot on man. Unfortunately too much latency in FPS titles, but absolutely perfect for MSFS. I cackled like a girl when the first time I turned it on and I could see & FEEL msfs at a high frame rate.
@allantamargo1432
@allantamargo1432 2 күн бұрын
u just have a bad settings bro. im uising lossless with highest rank on marvel rivals , valorant, dota 2
@Belfran
@Belfran 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for explaining the concept, examples and opinion.
@perpetualomega
@perpetualomega 14 күн бұрын
My Hero. Love the comparisons.
@stevesumner9988
@stevesumner9988 14 күн бұрын
I have a 7 year old system with a GTX1070 graphics card. 4.3 gig processor. I run on average, 25-35 fps on average settings. This little program just pushed me to 50-60. Outstanding.
@Anktual
@Anktual 13 күн бұрын
Use a budget secondary gpu for lossless scaling, and you'll get way better results.
@Grumps730
@Grumps730 13 күн бұрын
@@Anktual What do you mean by the comment, “ use a secondary GPU for lossless scaling “ ?
@Anktual
@Anktual 13 күн бұрын
@Grumps730 motherboards have 2 or more pcie slots for gpu. If you have an older gpu or able to buy one for cheap you can run lossless scaling work on that gpu and the main one will be used only for game render. This way you get max initial frame rate which is very important
13 күн бұрын
If you want the smoothest possible MSFS experience with Lossless, you need to limit the base frames in your video card's control panel, either to 50% of your monitor's refresh rate if you use LL in 2x, or 1/3 (33%) if you use it in 3x mode. Unlocked FPS will bring you stuttering. For the upscaling, it is not necessary.
@docholliday1811
@docholliday1811 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for an awesome and very informative video.
@simonjohnade
@simonjohnade 13 күн бұрын
Great video. I particularly appreciate you raising the point distinguishing between slow moving games versus fast. Its a good point that is not said enough 😊 Love your videos, thank you
@r4microds
@r4microds 13 күн бұрын
Shout out to the FSR3 framegen mod that works with MSFS. Didnt cost a thing and less latency and artifacts than Lossless.
@algroyp3r
@algroyp3r 13 күн бұрын
Isn't it just a native option?
@jxk4500
@jxk4500 13 күн бұрын
link?
@Iceman-hb3uk
@Iceman-hb3uk 3 күн бұрын
Finally a usable case. For a flight sim like this, where you don't really need a responsive game (unlike for example DCS), having the latency of 30 FPS won't make it as bad as in many other games since you don't really move around much and you're just controlling a plane, but the smoothness your eyes feel from higher displayed FPS is pleasant.
@lauriecooper5824
@lauriecooper5824 13 күн бұрын
Edit: Apparently there is a multi monitor mode that fixes the issue I was facing. I just want to highlight that lossless scaling is a big issue for people using things like SLC and FS2Crew or anything that can become the active window in windows. Lossless scaling only works on the active window and then just stops working if the main window changes too many times. It was a waste of money for me because of all the extra add-ons inuse that run outside the sim
@DigitalDiskette
@DigitalDiskette 13 күн бұрын
That's important to know honestly, thanks for the info
@ianrivaldosmith
@ianrivaldosmith 13 күн бұрын
Incorrect, if you’re using the new version just select multi monitor mode and that will fix that issue for you.
@lauriecooper5824
@lauriecooper5824 13 күн бұрын
@@ianrivaldosmith Thanks for that, I will try this out. Haven't used it since I bought it because of that issue.
@ianrivaldosmith
@ianrivaldosmith 13 күн бұрын
@@lauriecooper5824 works fine here, I can move the mouse to the second monitor (another setting, don’t let it clip the mouse) and the game remains in focus even when clicking other windows.
@Peter-55
@Peter-55 14 күн бұрын
I have tried LSFG 2X on top of NVIDIA’s FG (I have a 4080 Super as well, but with a 9800X3D), and the results are good. I have some more testing to do to compare this with LSFG 4X. Anyway, I am finding both methods of FG to be good if one has a 4000 card, but I would recommend LSFG to anyone with other GPUs that don’t have NVIDI’s native FG.
@jts4233
@jts4233 13 күн бұрын
If LSFG works with an AMD Radeon card would that be a way to get abundant VRAM for wide scenery views with LODS >=200 without paying obnoxious prices for 32GB on a 5090?
@Peter-55
@Peter-55 13 күн бұрын
@ Hi, I have no experience with AMD GPUs, but I believe LSFG works with any GPU.
@ishiddddd4783
@ishiddddd4783 3 күн бұрын
@@jts4233 current cpus shit themselves past 200 LOD before vram even comes close to reaching 16gb, let alone 32
@AirborneGeek
@AirborneGeek 12 күн бұрын
Very good video!
@ht6501
@ht6501 12 күн бұрын
Thanks. It would be nice to see this in VR.
@pm110978
@pm110978 14 күн бұрын
Outstanding little program 👍
@highjim7778
@highjim7778 7 күн бұрын
literally the most important app you can own, esp if you have a powerful card to begin with like a 3 series, you insert 2x framegen into any game without any of the scaling, make sure reflexboost is on in drivers then it wortks on 99% of games.
@chelseafc7145
@chelseafc7145 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for the VID sorry I couldn’t be in the stream tonight. MY FFB Yoke is arriving this Friday so I will send a few vids of that on discord. IT has been delayed a few times. Let’s hope not again
@MarkSynthesis
@MarkSynthesis 13 күн бұрын
Good to hear of this support option for (slightly) older GPUs; I'm using an RTX 4080 Super so performance is extremely forgiving even at 2160p (but admittedly I'm not running everything on Ultra, otherwise this would be a potential lifesaver if I were still on my RTX 3080 TI.
@blind-oxmusic2570
@blind-oxmusic2570 14 күн бұрын
Try these settings , the best results so far : scaling mode : auto / full screen scaling type : FSR / optimised version : ON / sharpness : 0 or more ( depend on how you like it ) but the best i found is 0 frame gen : LSFG 3.0 / MODE : X4 / RESOLUTION SCALE : 100 / CURSOR : OFF / OFF / OFF /OFF RENDERING : sync mode : DEFAULT / max frame latency : 1 / HDR SUPPORT : OFF / G-SYNC : OFF / DRAW FPS : on CAPTURE : DXGI GPU AND DISPLAY : AUTO / AUTO BEHAVIOR : OFF LEGACY : OFF MY RESULTS : 44 FPS UP TO 190 with these settings MY SPEC " RTX 3060 12 GB / RYZEN 5 / 32GB RAM ( High to Ultra settings ) but i'm on MSFS 2020 , but i guess it will give the same results on 2024 I HOPE IT HELPS ENJOY !
@vejas1
@vejas1 14 күн бұрын
did you turn on V-Sync on inside nvidia global settings + V-sync off in the game as developer of this lossless scaling app recommended?
@blind-oxmusic2570
@blind-oxmusic2570 14 күн бұрын
@ vsync is off everywhere for my case 😉
@vejas1
@vejas1 14 күн бұрын
@@blind-oxmusic2570 Maybe that's my issue. I get as much FPS as I need with RTX 3090 but it stutters. Maybe I need to do all off as well. :D
@blind-oxmusic2570
@blind-oxmusic2570 14 күн бұрын
@@vejas1 also turn off free sync on your monitor if you didn’t , it helps a lot 😉
@vejas1
@vejas1 14 күн бұрын
@@blind-oxmusic2570 Thanks!
@skadvani
@skadvani 13 күн бұрын
Its a good app and smoothens the performance. Cheers
@guillaume_69
@guillaume_69 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the vid! Is the conclusion that the glass cockpit looks better with this at 2X vs DLSS 3.0?
@cmdr-aurus-rex
@cmdr-aurus-rex 13 күн бұрын
ah yea, in the VR world we have something similar for long time already, but from my experience I can say smoothness is not about fps. Its much more about stable frame timings. You can have 100 fps and experience terrible stuttering, and you can have 25 fps and enjoy absolutely smooth experience. So what it actually makes smooth is when you have equal timings between frames (no matter rendered or generated). That is what counts most.
@cmdr-aurus-rex
@cmdr-aurus-rex 13 күн бұрын
and you can barelly achieve stable timings when you push your GPU to the limits. Therefore I always recommend to avoid pushing the GPU to the limit and cap the rendering frames to the minimum that can be achieved under stress conditions. So for example if you achieve at least 32 fps with no cap over paris or london with heavy weather, then cap it to 30. The overhead power available to the GPU will be used then to order the frames in the frame buffer so that you get stable timings. If you don't do that, all available power of the GPU goes into rendering frames and they will be pushed out as they are ready. This results in unequal frame timings and micro stutter experience.
@jayphoenix2709
@jayphoenix2709 13 күн бұрын
Best thing to do is lock your frame rate 30,60,90 then enable FG.
@sluvage9187
@sluvage9187 13 күн бұрын
ProDUCKtivity ⚡🦆⚡
@veltriix
@veltriix 13 күн бұрын
I have a similar spec’d PC with a 5800X3D 32GB of custom tuned RAM. I have the 7800 XT instead and so far AFMF 2 has been a realy good since the first version. There has been less artefacting than before, the only times it does is when I am FSLTL into a busy super hub airport and I spin the camera too fast. 99% of the time it has no artifacts, the only ones I see is from the TAA. So even 30FPS raw frames, it feels super smooth since it doubles. And the moment I get above 1000’ anything above RAW 45FPS it’s butter since it’ll be 90+FPS visually.
@flyingHD
@flyingHD 9 күн бұрын
Vídeo top. Does it work in Virtual Reality too?
@ElSarcastro
@ElSarcastro 9 күн бұрын
Interested in this too
@rinner2801
@rinner2801 12 күн бұрын
70x2 seems to work great for FPS with very little input lag.
@RobloxianX
@RobloxianX 7 күн бұрын
Frame Gen is nice for a game like this since you're not fighting in an FPS and you're just enjoying the environment. So, you're really aiming for around 60FPS anyways, so if 20X is good enough to even be listed, 2X wouldn't be that bad.
@hoot999
@hoot999 13 күн бұрын
Very well explained, thank you. How does it apply to VR? Does the FG work there?
@PeterMatthess
@PeterMatthess 14 күн бұрын
I tried it and it would run smooth for a few seconds and then freeze for about 30seconds, back and forth again and again. Maybe there are other settings I need to set before it works properly?
@rudidlo
@rudidlo 13 күн бұрын
I have tried frame generation in my settings, but it created weird artefacts on the horizon when there was bad weather.
@Dexta_mogger
@Dexta_mogger 3 күн бұрын
Guys, How to fix Latency Issue with Lossless Scaling, I mean when I scale game with it, It feels smooth but with slow screen reaction.
@louis8859
@louis8859 13 күн бұрын
That's interesting, I've got the same processor like you and a 6800XT. However, no matter what multiplier I take and what max frame latency I've got 0 impact on my native system FPS.
@imdavidlamar
@imdavidlamar 13 күн бұрын
Why doesn’t this work with VR
@altsak840
@altsak840 13 күн бұрын
Because it's already there. Motion reprojection, ASW, motion smoothing ect - it's what's called in VR.
@davidmertes6308
@davidmertes6308 13 күн бұрын
@@altsak840 Thats not realy the same
@simulacrae
@simulacrae 13 күн бұрын
Accessibility > Cockpit interaction system > Legacy :)
@TENGILL
@TENGILL 14 күн бұрын
Good video, just a few things. What are your game settings? Are you using Nvidia´s DLSS? Are you using the FSR mod? If you are not, then what are the results if you have that turned on? If you change the scaling typ in the program, will that change things? What if you change the scaling mode in the app?
@Patrick_AV
@Patrick_AV 14 күн бұрын
Best is to cap youre base at an fos you always get, for example 30fps.
@fly2724
@fly2724 7 күн бұрын
I think MSFS is really best for frame generation if you’re piloting a 747 that takes time to sway.
@VelocityWasHere
@VelocityWasHere 9 күн бұрын
would it work on a 1660s or is it just for rtx cards
@AlexBell1991
@AlexBell1991 8 күн бұрын
It works on all cards.
@VelocityWasHere
@VelocityWasHere 8 күн бұрын
@@AlexBell1991 then i need to try it
@v1rotatev230
@v1rotatev230 13 күн бұрын
I mean it works. I primarily use it in xplane I find an MSFS it can cause the simulator to crash or the application crashes, causing the simulated to freeze. I’ve never had a problem in xplane. And with frame, I don’t even need it for. MSFS.
@Leon-O-Man
@Leon-O-Man 13 күн бұрын
Do you recommend to 30xx series to use the frame gen mod or losses scaling?
@3A--Axel
@3A--Axel 2 күн бұрын
yes
@BloodSteyn
@BloodSteyn 13 күн бұрын
LLS is fantastic... but I do hate the offset you get from it. Like, Oh, I want to click that switch... nope move your mouse waaaay over there to actually get it.
@Fred-B
@Fred-B 11 күн бұрын
I have used Lossless for a few months. 2X only is good enough for me. NVidia would yield similar or better results? I need to look into that. Thanks for the info.
@MrMadness574
@MrMadness574 14 күн бұрын
Does this work for VR??
@Mr.SamyakSawant350
@Mr.SamyakSawant350 13 күн бұрын
Do this will not affect to the pc or it won't fire the pc na😊😊
@TriuraniumOctoxide
@TriuraniumOctoxide 13 күн бұрын
LSFG 3 is quite a bit better than LSFG 2.3 in my experience. I was seeing artifacts in light aircraft's propellers that was very immersion breaking, but that has stopped completely in 3.0. Even watching your comparison I think the cabin windows in this vid look better too.
@Anktual
@Anktual 13 күн бұрын
Pl, use a secondary gpu for framegen. Its a massive difference
@Carlo-f1e
@Carlo-f1e 13 күн бұрын
Having already the previous version (more than appreciated), is the 3.0 an automatic upgrade, or should I go for a simple uodate, buy new one or what? Thanks in advance for replying
@gabry6062
@gabry6062 7 күн бұрын
do you play fullscreen or window ?
@jrkob1156
@jrkob1156 13 күн бұрын
Can someone explain the "latency" problem that this is generating ? As in, how does this latency translate into in the sim from a practical point of view ?
@leonardomiranda8541
@leonardomiranda8541 13 күн бұрын
Amazing how a 3d-party user created something that is better than the dlss in this game. My 4070 Super was a monster in 2020 but in 2024 with dlss these artfacts are everywhere. This program solves it!! This game is a pre alpha. Maybe the final version will be here in the end of the year. You shouldn't need a 4090 to play it decently like the previous didn't
@jendabekCZ
@jendabekCZ 13 күн бұрын
You have no idea what pre-alpha means. Considering the amount of details and scale this game needs to process it is truly a technical marvel that it can even run 2fps on the current HW. In such unique and huge project it is understandable there can be issues here and there to fix.
@leonardomiranda8541
@leonardomiranda8541 Күн бұрын
@ issues here and there? This should be called Microsoft Issues 2024. What’s the huge advancements over 2020? A shit career mode? The minor graphics improvements? The stream only system? All of this to have 30%-40% less performance. But that’s the deal now. Publishes are getting used to release and sell games in these dogsh*t state and say that they peaked the generation hardware
@wrongwayfeldman5393
@wrongwayfeldman5393 13 күн бұрын
Why does the screen go black when I click on scale? 🤔It is updated to that 3.0😒
@EtherOne
@EtherOne 5 күн бұрын
Will this work in VR?
@nxgnsaxo9298
@nxgnsaxo9298 8 күн бұрын
Im on a 3070 and recently discovered Lossless Scaling. Allright , its not perfect and doesnt work as well in all games , but in most it does actually work quite well. And it makes certain games from even playable to much more playable/enjoyable... So just an advise , take a look at it , you might not want to spend your hard earnt money yet to upgrade. Especially for "older" hardware, its a cheap path to consider.
@glaveglave7000
@glaveglave7000 12 күн бұрын
Can we use fg and lossless scaling at the same time?
@Munky332
@Munky332 6 күн бұрын
afaik still not working with VR?
@queenbeeader
@queenbeeader 11 күн бұрын
Don't use 20x custom, your screen artifacting and latency will go through the roof and everything will be unplayable. With LFS 3.0 FG, 3X looks extremely good now and the latency penalty is far lower than even 2X use to be before the update. At 2X or 3X (depending on how a chosen game responds to it), even the UI and reticles are fixed and don't bug out anymore. I recommend testing between 2X and 3X to find out what looks and feels better on a per-game basis - I've been using LFS 3.0 FG-3x with CAS Sharpening (100% resolution scale) with DLSS (if available) set to quality from the in-game settings and it is phenomenal.
@mulishamccoy
@mulishamccoy 13 күн бұрын
So for you, none of this matters past 60fps since your monitor maximum is 60hz. Aka 60fps max on your monitor. So anything past 60fps is just getting you diminishing returns as you said less sampling for your controls and no more frames being able to be seen.
@AirNOTT
@AirNOTT 13 күн бұрын
Yep. Fun to play with though
@mulishamccoy
@mulishamccoy 13 күн бұрын
@AirNOTT my only issues with flight sim 2024 is in the 737 in career I get stutters on take off and landing at 1440p. And I'm at about 40-60fps average in the 737. Other planes I get 100+ i wish we could turn off all the internal rendered stuff on the air liners that's my guess on why they run so much worse. Kind of like beamng the more parts that are invisible the game has to keep track of for damage and rendering makes fps worse. Realism = bad fps.
@scorpian007
@scorpian007 13 күн бұрын
How does this compare to the FSR frame gen mod? My main issue is that MSFS stutters which these mods sadly don't help with
@jamesm568
@jamesm568 13 күн бұрын
I know 96 GB of RAM made it smooth for me but I didn't get no 300 frames per second.
@sasger76
@sasger76 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video. I tried it now and whenever I start the scaling the Screen is getting very much darker. How can I get rid of the that?
@pistopitpit
@pistopitpit 4 күн бұрын
Does it work in VR?
@imellor711
@imellor711 13 күн бұрын
I just cannot get Loss Scale working for me. I run a AMD Ryzan 7 5800 GPU and MSI RTX 3070 GPU latest Nvidia drivers, on a 34400 x 1440p UHD monitor, 70hz monitor. It always reduces my FPS down by half and I don't know what I'm doing wrong
@TransoceanicOutreach
@TransoceanicOutreach 9 күн бұрын
Are you running the game in Borderless Window mode? Set both the game and LS to Borderless and it should work.
@imellor711
@imellor711 9 күн бұрын
@TransoceanicOutreach ah thank you
@burtleboeuf1429
@burtleboeuf1429 14 күн бұрын
I found it still stutters and struggles enormously at ground level in 2024. Been using it for a few months and while it is an improvement, it's not perfect.
@AirNOTT
@AirNOTT 14 күн бұрын
Maybe throwing autoFPS into the mix could help?
@burtleboeuf1429
@burtleboeuf1429 13 күн бұрын
@@AirNOTT use Dynamic LOD and that helps. Anyone with a spare 4090 greatly appreciated 🙂
@redsaints
@redsaints 13 күн бұрын
@@burtleboeuf1429played MSFS 2020 since release and now 2024,recently upgraded to a 9800x3d with 64gb of ddr5. Finally stutters have gone. After years of trying everything suggested. Running a 3090, was going to buy a 5090 but now thinking if it is needed.
@XYQW7
@XYQW7 13 күн бұрын
Do you mind sharing your MSFS2024 settings? Because I also have a 4080 and I regularly run out of VRAM, especially when using Lossless Scaling.
@AirNOTT
@AirNOTT 13 күн бұрын
Video on the channel!
@PrimalStunt
@PrimalStunt 13 күн бұрын
30 series are more than capable of running msfs.
@Abrryt
@Abrryt 12 күн бұрын
A 3050 4gb, are u sure?
@lukasm09
@lukasm09 13 күн бұрын
so do I disable DLSS and possibly Frame Gen in the sim settings directly? Or does it work properly when I use both? Any experience yet by anyone?
@andriesgouws8206
@andriesgouws8206 13 күн бұрын
Hi sorry how do you get 😊the numbers in the top left corner showing up……
@joaofbi4321
@joaofbi4321 13 күн бұрын
What about the input lag problem?
@aviaspotter725
@aviaspotter725 13 күн бұрын
Do you need the gifthub frame gen mod also for this? Running on a 3070
@0000kk
@0000kk 13 күн бұрын
Having a 30 fps base is not ideal you need at least a base 60 if you don't want artifacts
@nilsrossi4217
@nilsrossi4217 10 күн бұрын
i tried this app for play fps games and i noticed high input latency. :(
@TheLemonyLime
@TheLemonyLime 13 күн бұрын
Do i have to turn off the frame gen option that comes in msfs2024 options?
@bokfink1
@bokfink1 13 күн бұрын
Does framegen work with VR in any way?
@ElKarka2008
@ElKarka2008 12 күн бұрын
With 3.0 the sky blinks on Fs2024, but with 2.3 it doesn't, do you have a solution for this?
@Neosin1
@Neosin1 13 күн бұрын
Does this work with vr like quest3?
@ZeJuank
@ZeJuank 13 күн бұрын
LS is cool but it adds a lot of lag input unfortunately
@FuIIDiveVR
@FuIIDiveVR 5 күн бұрын
What happens if you enable LS with a tv that has 2x interpolation? Would that be 20x to 40x? lol
@Neosnoop37
@Neosnoop37 12 күн бұрын
I suffer the most due to FSLTL
@MieWRLDD
@MieWRLDD 14 күн бұрын
Okay so with my 4070 and the in game Frame Generation option for 2020, im running at roughly 60 FPS depending on the scenery etc, would it be worth it for me to on top of the in game setting also get Lossless scaling and apply it?
@irbengimz5489
@irbengimz5489 14 күн бұрын
Dlss is way more efficient and generates higher quality frames having vector info. I wouldn’t bother with this program in your case. Great for people that have older cards without Dlss with FG
@classydave75
@classydave75 14 күн бұрын
Have you tried not using FG but using DLSS with the SecondaryScaling (in the UserCfg.opt file of flight sim) set to 2.0? It apparently eliminates ghosting and blur on the instrument readings... But some other artifacts appear around the edges of the screen in balance mode and above, although it may vary from a config to another or a specific driver...
@AirNOTT
@AirNOTT 14 күн бұрын
I’ve read about it, but with DLSS 4.0 on the horizon I’m hopeful that’ll give us a solution out of the box due to DLSS upscaling being upgraded to new AI transformer models 🤞
@fingerhorn4
@fingerhorn4 13 күн бұрын
Secondary Scaling in FS2020 Usercfg.opt works not too badly but in FS2024 it crashes the sim after a few minutes. Overall I find that setting is unreliable so do not use it.
@vejas1
@vejas1 14 күн бұрын
Default 4 series framegen is much better. I don't even have 4 series card, I have RTX 3090 and I use frame gen mod from nexus website and I get stable (but most importantly stutter free) 70-90 FPS. While using lossless scaling got me stutters, even after locking fps to either: 20 / 30 / 40 fps to try at least double it using X2 mode. Resolution scale didnt help as well. If I'm doing it wrong let me know but I used Rivatuner to limit my FPS. Anyways, In profile there is 1 KZbin short video using stutter free Framegen mod and head tracking using my iphone as camera input 🤣🤣
@Oskar_5975
@Oskar_5975 7 күн бұрын
Did you tried to use lossless without any vsync in that software?
@Andruuid
@Andruuid 13 күн бұрын
what about in VR?
@channelvr1293
@channelvr1293 13 күн бұрын
I'm guessing not very usable in VR....😢
@decky1990
@decky1990 12 күн бұрын
I legit cannot see the artifacts - am I blind?
@rstandi
@rstandi 13 күн бұрын
Does this only work with steam?
@andriesgouws8206
@andriesgouws8206 13 күн бұрын
It’s working thanks…..
@tsilikasp
@tsilikasp 13 күн бұрын
My 1060 6gb might stick around a bit more
@hardulle8616
@hardulle8616 14 күн бұрын
any idea why when using lossless scaling my sim gets really dark really frustraiting
@tomothy8810
@tomothy8810 13 күн бұрын
you need to enable the HDR support option on the lossless scaling app, or turn off the HDR setting in your sim graphics settings. This will fix it
@hardulle8616
@hardulle8616 12 күн бұрын
@@tomothy8810 Thank you!
@SN57ONE
@SN57ONE 13 күн бұрын
By any GPU you mean = RTX Series only.
@MouhyYA
@MouhyYA 13 күн бұрын
Someone commented that it worked on their gtx1070
@mariokohler4916
@mariokohler4916 13 күн бұрын
your understanding of frame generation is wrong, at least when it comes to nvidias flavor of it. frame generation does NOT wait for the next frame to be rendered and then creates frames inbetween the current and next frame! that would indeed introduce latency. instead they use something they call an optical flow field that is based on the current frame and past frames, and that lets them predict future frames. so they can generate a „fake“ frame after the current frame WITHOUT waiting for the next „real“ frame to be finished, therefore avoiding additional latency. this prediction is also the main source of artefacting that you may notice.
@owenklein1917
@owenklein1917 8 күн бұрын
In my opinion, the, “latency” is pretty irrelevant. It isn’t noticeable in a flight sim.
@blaster12v
@blaster12v 13 күн бұрын
Does not work with Triple Screen !!!
@JoeDFWAviation
@JoeDFWAviation 12 күн бұрын
So Lossless Scaling is useless if I’m at or below 15 FPS?
@AirNOTT
@AirNOTT 12 күн бұрын
I’d say so!
@ThefrypodiPod
@ThefrypodiPod 5 күн бұрын
20x after crippling the base rate is more like 10x
@perpetualomega
@perpetualomega 14 күн бұрын
I have a 7800X3D+3070 on a 4K 120hz TV, I get around 35fps, would getting a 5080 achieve much?
@regwatson2017
@regwatson2017 14 күн бұрын
No-one really knows yet. The raw power increase over your 3070 certainly would be a load better than what you have got but until reviewers get their hands on the cards a lot of what has been promised by NVidia is through extra generated frames not real frames. Whether that would be worth the new cost of a 5080 is hard to say given that early indications are you are going to be very lucky to get a 5080 at RRP. Personally my prediction is that they will sell out like hotcakes much like the 9800X3D currently is. Prices are inevitably going to be more like "supply and demand" if history is anything to go by.
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