Lost Ark - Correct Way To Facet Ability Stones

[@jonsong4592]

when you fail 3 75%s in a row for your desired engraving and succeed 3 25% rolls in a row on the cracking all on the same ability stone. feelsbadman

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

ouch!

[@ezaxkielthefallen9463]

I feel you on that one, most of the time I failed on 75% even 65% and succeed on lower % which is completely BS to be honest :(

[@SlightlyGrimGaming]

Well yeah... its not chance of success in red its chance of cracking. so you literally had only a 25% chance that it wouldnt +1 and a 75% chance that it would +1

[@dymr_]

@@SlightlyGrimGaming this. ^^^^^^

[@nicuvozian2627]

I got 4 x 25% in a row on red

[@MadameCirce]

"Sacrificial positive" is such a great way to put it and that's how I approach my faceting as well. Wonderful explanation!

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

Many thanks :)

[@Mad_Moxx]

Wow, I have watched a few different videos on this and I have to say this is the easiest to understand. Simple and to the point. Thank you!

[@gmlviper]

25% consecutive chance of cracking > 6 reduced abilities on a legendary ability stone.... the RNG is... completely fucked up. Your video and your explanation makes sense, the actual faceting in game... not so much.

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

I hate RNG in games. It's lazy design or put there to frustrate people into buying things. gotta do what you can to stack the odds.

[@Valaryant.]

@@BlackoutGamingChannel In this FtP games is never, ever lazy, is meant, as u just said, to frustrate people into spending real money, game's pretty doe.

[@pokermitten9795]

Yet Diablo 2 remains entrenched in gaming because of its vast rng.

[@Valaryant.]

@owl777 Well the thing is, the design is meant to frustrate people who want to accomplish something or beat something, or have something others don't have, and the only way of doing so is by emptying ur wallet. if u dont have that kind of drive u are not the target audience for this type of games. So u are safe lol.

[@chupeem6940]

That’s because his explanation is wrong. Chance of cracking = chance of turning gray. Look up faceting calculators made by KR players. Sure the terminology is confusing but maths don’t lie.

[@saxon6749]

So I had no clue wtf any of this was or how it worked. Watched videos and just got a migraine. In 6 minutes you made this mushbrain understand exactly what I need to be doing. Subbed dude.

[@qu181]

Im starting to think 75% chance to crack means it's 75% chance to be grey (aka you cracked it) while success means it lights up (or sets the stone) .

[@chupeem6940]

Yes. But this guy is too stubborn to admit it

[@freerun4370]

Everyone can feel the pain of going Chain fail 75% and roling 45 35 25% on red :D

[@Solizeus]

Actually the 45% chance on the red one is cracking chance, the chance of failing to get, so the highest the lower the chance to get is, meaning all the % on this is beneficial to you on the blue and the red

[@SmashFetus]

"Cracking" is a negative success. You want to fail on red so better to hit red with low %. Try on a few throw away gems. Start on red every time. You will get a red mark most the time when ui says "75% chance of cracking"

[@mariuszel759]

Im onlly in t2, but thankls to your video i managed to get a perfect Barricade stone for my gunlancer, thank you !

[@mendiganina6001]

That was a really good explanation, and a pretty decent method so far. Thanks for the video!

[@dandy0807]

When I facet the engraving on 45-55% that I don't want, It always a success. But when I facet what I want on 65-75%. It always fails, lol. I have the best luck on RNG.

[@Ibrahim-zr5fr]

Well, try my luck then....succeeded 4 times in a row at 25% on the negative engraving : D (tossed the stone in the trash afterwards obviously)

[@antontran5965]

I had always assumed that the "chance of cracking" being high was good, so many thanks for clearing that up for me! Also I appreciate that life advice at the end, I'll definitely take that on as well. Cheers mate!

[@chupeem6940]

No you’re right. The chance of cracking being high is good. The information in this video is wrong.

[@SmashFetus]

No, this video is right. If you Google a faceting calculator it literally verifies that you should hit red when the numbers are lower. There's some silly people trying to misinform people.

[@robertlarson6931]

Now this is pretty Black & White and makes more sense then a lot of vids I watch good job and great video

[@SmirkSmileGrinGames]

Had been looking for information about this and you did an amazing job to simply it and break it down. Thanks

[@luciano.marinelli]

this was the perfect guide, thanks a lot. On my way to faceting now

[@mague2169]

One thing I'm still confused about: "chance of cracking" means "chance of turning grey" right? So if I had a 75% chance of cracking it would be advisable to go for the negatives / red ones. However if you have "75% chance of success" at the same time as "75 chance to crack" the chance to succeed overweighs, hence you go for the engravings.

[@chewbaka747]

Just think about cracking as adding +1 debuff to your stone. You want a low chance of cracking the red and high chance succeeding on the blue.

[@mague2169]

​@@chewbaka747 I think you misunderstood me, let me try to rephrase. I get the gist of faceting and how it plays out. I'm confused about the phrasing "chance of cracking". Does it determine the chance of the negative engravings going grey or red? Because "cracking" to me sounds like a miss, hence grey. So if that was the case, a 75% chance of cracking would be in your favor if you only consider the debuffs for a moment.

[@ImaginarySpace]

@@mague2169 The idea is that when you have a high % you need to choose if you want to prioritize getting a good buff or getting a low de-buff. So % being higher when you click always increases the chance of the good thing for you happening. That's why you want one of your two buffs to be the sacrificial one where you click on low %. That row is the one you are fine taking a not-good outcome.

[@PersonCalledErin]

Nooo! Do not use high% on the red. Cracking refers to the stone itself. One Crack = +1 red/bad. So it's just different terminology for the same thing. Except you wouldn't call "succeeding" a +1 on a negative a success. Thus it's cracking

[@mague2169]

@@PersonCalledErin thanks for actually clarifying the terminology^^ I wasn't gonna hit red on 75%, but now I know what cracking actually means.

[@honkmandeluxe]

Thanks mate, had no clue what I was doing until I watched this

[@josephdurham4950]

on the later game stones (ones with 8+ nodes) its best to focus on filling red along with blue node skill you least want and really only hit your fav bule skill node on 75%. on the later game stones i sometimes find myself getting super lucking on my blue rolls, leaving me with a bunch of red nodes to hit all in a row. ive ended up ruining a bunch of stones like that. not full proof but on later game stones i have been ruining less by - 75% hit my fav skill 65% least fav bule 55% and below i hit red. im always looking for better tips if anyone find any.

[@grahamstavers5130]

This is more or less what I do. 65% or above on the blue I want, 55% on the blue I don't want, 45% on the red. It generally gets to the last few and I don't have a choice either way. I've failed as much on 75% as I've "succeeded" on at 25%. This is the system I hate most in the game.

[@ProvaBeK]

I like to do 75/65 on the preferred engraving and 55/45 on the secondary

[@Dollsofgod]

Nice explanation, I'm new to the game and really learned a lot. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.

[@464528]

I saw a guy with a stone that made his HP increase by 700 at lvl 40. I am at the same lvl but couldnt find any stone with that potential ability. Help

[@Steast]

My stones avg 5/5/3, usually facet 2 of the same stone because rng lol. I’ve been running with 7/6/2. It’s like counting cards in blackjack. You just wanna make sure you hit red when you’re not feeling lucky. My best stone so far was a 8/7/1, unluckily, it was a warmup w/ trash engravings

[@imperigon]

Big thumbs up for the story about the manager at the end.

[@dnd6075]

"chance of cracking" to me means chance of breaking. so youd want a high percentage on the negative button when you click it in order for it to crack more often. that makes sense to me

[@frostbyte8098]

how did you get to the screen where you could start the faceting process?

[@belaldamra3110]

why do I see only 4 facets on each rare stone? and only 5 on the epic. It requires me to have at least 11 succesful facets while I have only 10 in total. That doesn't make any sense. Or am I missing something here?

[@bobbins5037]

Worth mentioning that you should also factor in the balance of your remaining attempts. You don't want to be sat with only the red to burn. I would also view 45/55% as essentially always 50/50 and play it by the balance above and your gut feeling more than anything. With 75% being always your top prio, 65 being top or 2nd, depending on balance /feeling. 35 /25% red.

[@Publico1st]

how did you calculated the probability of 6 failings in a row from 99%? thanks

[@jeremydaily]

lmfao had no idea the chance of success affected all 3 attributes smh. Learned that and a pretty nifty way of overcoming the odds - thanks!

[@MPD1337]

Good video, but it's assuming that all skills are considered equal and dont have a hidden inherent weight. Only slightly skewing such weights, the devs could control the outcomes accross the game for high end gear. Are the above suppositions confirmed?

[@PandaStyle07]

Faceting is been a pain, when I was trying to get my 5 5 adrenaline grudge stone I missed Grudge at 65% and then 5 times in a row at 75%, and with another one I succeded on the red trait at 45%, 35% and then 3 times at 25%, in a row.

[@flateric4815]

So why does it say in the tooltip "with a higher chance of cracking comes a higher chance the combat stat will DECREASE" then? Based of that i would assume the higher the chance of cracking the higher chance the stat will become grey, which would make sense, so you have to weigh, when you have eg 75% chance, between taking the high chance of improving blue or high chance of decreasing red (getting grey on red). I dont know man, but sounds like you all got it wrong. Pretty confusing.

[@BrendanZanitCoen]

Nah he has it right. Think of it like do you want your ability stone to have a crack in it? No. The crack is what’s causing the negative effect. Too many deformities and you get a debuff. Eg. Grey is no crack. Red is a crack

[@chrisbrookes3987]

The red ones decrease stats so yes you explained it perfectly with "with a higher chance of cracking comes a higher chance the combat stat will DECREASE" seems like you just misunderstood that red decreases stats, I see why though it does seem confusing.

[@dogtag779]

Look at the red one when it’s a high percentage it’s a high percentage of cracking. Go back and forth at 75% from blue to red and keep your chances good

[@Despond]

lol no it's the opposite, you still want the lowest % for red, the wording is confusing. 45% and under for red, 55% if things are going bad.

[@chupeem6940]

@@Despond no. You want high % for all. The information in the video is wrong. Look up faceting calculators

[@SmashFetus]

@@chupeem6940 you're saying to use a calculator when every calculator says your wrong. Low % is when to hit red.

[@ari_ahri]

Didn't really understand how it was meant to be done from what the game tells you, so this video helped a lot - thanks a bunch!

[@wowJhil]

I feel like you really missed the most important learning from this facet. The logic you explained, basically success rate and prio depending on that success rate is what I did from the very start without a guide. It's kind of self explanatory. However, there are more things here to learn then this which should have been the main point in this video besides the "basics". One mistake you made was that when you were at 55% success rate and identified that you had many slots left on the negative buff as compared to the positive ones, you then decided to pick the negative buff probably thinking that you want to hope for a higher success rate next time. BUT, even with 55% it's more likely to succeed then fail. So picking negative at this moment just increase your chance of successfully adding a negative buff point. Now you could think that this is ok, because you have so few "success" on negative buff. But that is not the point. The point is that when you got a "success" on a negative buff, activating one point, your success rate went from 55% to 45%. Hence, now you made it even harder to get a decent success rate for the positive buffs points you had left. Let's say that you had instead picked a positive one, but failed that one. The success rate would then have increased, so likely you could have gotten one of the two remaining positive buff points at least. I think it's a common mistake, going to the negative buff too easily/early. That can really turn the rest of the facet to a complete failure because success rate can drop so easily.

[@TheScubaGuba]

This is some great information. I totally didn't know about the success rates being connected to each skill or crack. Great video!

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

Glad it was helpful!

[@justno1151]

Is there is a way to rest it and re do it untill i get a good try?

[@Thronnos]

I'm pretty sure the displayed % is merely fluff. The amount of times that I've failed 75/65 back to back but cracked 25/35 back to back is near to statistically improbable.

[@SmashFetus]

Agreed.

[@chupeem6940]

Because the information in this video is wrong. Chance of cracking = chance of turning gray. Every % you see on the GUI works towards you. Look up faceting calculators

[@SmashFetus]

@@chupeem6940 not true. I've tested it SEVERAL times. The "75%" in the red means you have a 75% chance for a red gem to appear. Which is bad. It is better to tap red when the % is very low. If you don't believe me just start with red a few times on throw away gems. You'll still get the first one more times then not.

[@chupeem6940]

@@SmashFetus so you’re telling me that the entire KR community is wrong? The KR players who developed calculators that are used by everyone are wrong?

[@SmashFetus]

@@chupeem6940 what are you even talking about? The calculators tell you to hit red after successes in blue when the % is lower.... I think you're confused about something. It's easy as hell to test. Just take a few throw away gems and start on red every time. You'll get a red mark most of the time on your first attempt when the ui is telling you "75% chance of cracking"

[@emjaythegreat22]

A lot of people don’t realize there is the % chance success but also a safe guard of success just like with honing. Your 5th one no matter what is always a success no matter the % chance. If you watch the video as he’s picking watch every 5th one become a success. Knowing this as you pick your slots just make sure those 3 guarantee hits pick the one you want. I’ve used this me theif and have gotten the best results. Remember this most blues will only give x4 most of the time purple X5-6 and legendary 6-8 nodes and relics 8-10 on average if your going for two engravings at highest it can get. You can max out a whole row but you won’t get both even.

[@cmel7841]

thanks, I think this really helped explain it. Also you need 5 pts in any ability to active tier 1 so this helps

[@olliepwnsall]

I legit thought chance of cracking = chance of the red gem turning grey. The game's translation kills me sometimes.

[@XAn0nymousX0]

I hate this system with a fiery burning passion. I've burned 6 lower tier legendary stones with the worst luck I've ever seen. I can't imagine the feeling of burning a legendary stone with your correct engravings.

[@vanste9876]

I have a problem, i have in total 10 necromancy nodes (9 from books and 1 from necklace) and that should give me lv 2 effect but i just dont see any effect at all, anybody have Idea why? Also should mention, i dont have that stones of birth/endurance with necromancy equiped, is that maybe the problem?

[@wildstar-yq2jh]

good explanation, no fluff. That's a sub

[@Chironexthejelly]

got a 7/8 barricade with this method, I appreciate it.

[@4Xg5seuA78qu2h]

Thx for the guide this really helped me to understand the facet system.

[@briathusbrheim3947]

Finally I understand how to faceting! Nice!!!! Now I just need to understand which habilities are useful for my DB :D

[@BeastlyHusla]

This makes so much more sense now. Thanks

[@roghider3552]

Its usually like this for my blue stones, then I try this strategy to orange and relic stones and it doesnt matter what percentage of success; it's all predetermined it's very annoying

[@christianhansen9908]

You have a 25-45% chance of things going wrong for you with 10 steps, thats a high probability of you not getting what you want.

[@rolandsprenger9249]

Splendid video, this game is sadly lacking in explaining its plethora of mechanics, fortunately videos like this exist.👍

[@Asmodeius]

i did ton of stones. bought cheap with 1 trait i wanted for T1 alts. i can almost guarantee, that the system is pseudo RNG instead of true RNG. i even played around trash stone drops i had, trying to fail every negative trait, just to see if i can have it clean. I never, literally never, had a stone with less than 2 negative faceting. As if it's bare minimum that you will need to have. Also, only one stone i had abnormally faceted. t1 blue stone. i was able to get 6+, 1+, 3-.

[@drglamm]

Great clear and concise, thanks a lot!

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

You're welcome!

[@seraph...4473]

Preferred Engraving: 75-65% Sacrificial Engraving: 55%-45% Negative Engravibg: 35-25%

[@kfirezer]

how have I never noticed that there's a singular counter and not 3 separate ones omg...

[@Vestige98]

What I found a lot of the times by my luck if I succeed 3 times in a row, the 4th will fail almost guaranteed. Had this happen on multiple 65% odds fails pretty much everytime

[@whateverman4923]

You're a legend, my first decent stone was after i watched this, tysm

[@BLDalton85]

That's what I gathered. I figured i'd try anyway and fail em hoping there was some XP gain or something. I thought of just sitting on them too (low level ones) but it seemed I could only dismantle them. Why not try then dismantle. Anything one should best use them for that i'm missing aside from try and scrap? Thanks.

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

thats the only conclusion ive come to

[@BrendanZanitCoen]

If they have nice abilities but not for my class, I sell them. If they’re unused engravings then I dismantle so I can craft a few more.

[@E5games]

Really wonderful breakdown, thank you!

[@chrisbrookes3987]

Cheers for this explanation fella, it helps with faceting a bunch, but I'm still confused as to why my stones only have 10 blue facet chances (5 on each) yet I need to "Successfully facet 11/12/13 times to increase vitality by 0/0/0" which just doesn't add up. I have a feeling I just need to get more late game to find the better ones but I honestly have no idea.

[@ASSOL3]

Yea, as you progress you get higher quality/tier stones with more facet slots. Ie: the first stones we get are 0-4 iirc.

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

so this is one of the issues I've personally had in understanding the engraving system. this video may help you kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWS2YaR6n9BkrLc

[@miguelgargallo]

to be fast: good luck, great video by the way

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

Thanks!

[@maonzedong7931]

I bought a stone with two abilities I needed from the auction house and then I just blasted through the top good skill nodes got 6-9, then the next 7-9, then I just blasted through the negative one and got 2-9. So pfffffft to all of this percentage bs. I have learned one thing from BDO, it is all luck based so none of these numbers really matter. There really isn't a "correct" way all you need is for RNGeezus to smile upon you.

[@Lancer78x]

Thanks, concise and well explained.

[@Adama.1]

would be nice if we can see your cursor

[@ayahi5243]

Oh, thanks for the tip! Easy to understand. RNGeezus bless us all :)

[@sneedgaming7433]

Extremely good video man, thanks

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

Glad you liked it!

[@MerlosTheMad]

what do you do with stones you dont need? i have a hundred of the things and you cant sell them

[@brianmontgomery4649]

Dismantle

[@ZirusAlpha]

tell me im not the only person who saw that thumbnail and instantly read "face sitting" .....pls someone

[@SlightlyGrimGaming]

It says Chance of Cracking, So you want the red number to be higher not lower.

[@RagsTattoo]

No, because you don't want the red part to crack, so the lower the number, the better.

[@bigbobe]

@@RagsTattoo you do want it to crack, if it doesn't crack you get a negative effect from it.

[@SlightlyGrimGaming]

@@RagsTattoo no not true. The top row (green) says chance of success. The bottom one would also say chance of success if that were the case but htey deliberately changed the wording You want a higher number bottom.

[@RagsTattoo]

@@bigbobe Lol I meant to say that but I used the wrong words and said the opposite. I was using the word "crack" as a success. Got dumb for a while sorry xD

[@RagsTattoo]

@@SlightlyGrimGaming My bad, I thought the same as you but the words confused me a bit because I was using the term "crack" the wrong way, you are right! haha

[@manuqrare1694]

He has a point... It's what i was doing so far...but it doesn't work out for me sry my 75 perc are a toss of coin and 35/25 on negative stat ar guaranteed so..

[@noneyabusiness8065]

RNG likes to fail my 75% success chance on my blues 3 out of 4 times, its fuckin CRACKED. I've lost count the amount of times I'm at 75%, and three times in a row @75% it fails. Feels bad. real bad.

[@theforgottenone666]

The RNG in this game just feels so off lol. Countless times failing at 75% chance of success but getting a negative node at 75% chance of cracking, 3 times in a row.. it’s awful and you can’t change my mind lol.

[@killtality8066]

alos anything i can do with left over stones

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

if you dont need them i think the only thing you can do is dismantle

[@hans1783]

I thought he was gonna show a table of the numbers and order u should click blue or red... Turns out he just goes by, _"is it above 50? IF yes, go blue. ELSE, go red."_

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

You don't need a table to understand probability of 2 possible outcomes

[@airi8674]

same this video is just common sense lmao

[@Ampopoltech]

legen and relic is pretty good because the node increases up to 7-9 more however mind the market value specially tier 3 stones which is expensive. this is the rng part of lost ark. which is not bad unlike other crappy mmo gacha rpg

[@1Jason250]

Thank you very much this really helped me

[@IIPhysicz0904]

That was a goood explanation. Thx dude !

[@xtrevizex]

Very clear and helpful guide!

[@conradhowlf]

Thats just genius, I did not know that and it was one of the best information Ive gotten from the dozens of lost ark videos Ive been watching, you are amazing sir, thank you

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

Glad I could help!

[@chupeem6940]

Is no one going to point out that this is wrong? I think you should reupload a new video. For the red part, the chance of cracking is your chance of failure, which is what you want, not the other way around. If it Says 25% chance of cracking, thst means it has a 25% chance of turning gray, not red.

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

No-one's pointing this out because the information I've given is correct. But feel free to upload your own video stating the wrong information.

[@chupeem6940]

@@BlackoutGamingChannel no one is pointing it out because they don’t know. That’s why they are watching this video in the first place. They are being mislead. Just do a quick Google search and you’ll see that the information you posted is wrong. Please for the sake of them. Obviously I can’t upload my own video because I don’t have a following to influence. Chance of cracking = chance of turning gray which is what you want. Look up Faceting calculators.

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

@@chupeem6940 nah mate, you should definitely make your own video about this. I insist. You don't need to have an audience to start - that's the beauty of KZbin: discoverability. Put your money where your mouth is and make a video. If you don't, you're just a troll talking garbage on the internet

[@chupeem6940]

@@BlackoutGamingChannel keep your inflated ego to yourself. The point here isn’t about reaching out to everyone. It’s about reaching out to those who watched this video. I don’t understand. Are you too stubborn to literally just type “faceting calculator” into Google?

[@CBourn48223]

The Success Rate and Chance of cracking percentages are there just for show and actually does nothing at all. -Change my mind

[@TheBeelzeboss]

I refuse to believe that anyone actually thinks that "hit them all in order from top to bottom" is a good idea, when we can see the rates right there with every click.

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

the very first time i was doing this a guildmate talked me through it and those were the instructions i was given

[@dariominiello9934]

As i said in other videos, isn't this just wrong? Doesn't % of cracking mean that you want that one high since you don't want the debuff? lol

[@derekwright5722]

Yes. This person explained it incorrectly. You want high percentages for both blue and red to have a higher chance for getting a blue node or higher chance for cracking your red

[@P_Rodd]

thank you, exactly the explanation i needed

[@logik99]

Chance of cracking is definitely not well explained in the game.I Thought we wanted it to crack aka ‘not work’... 🤦🏾‍♂️.

[@forvicommits]

perfect. but next time a mousecurser would help if you say things like "this one"

[@kaelgamerz]

Im 100% sure that the RNG on west server is buged or damaged, THERE IS NO WAY AT 90% SUCCESS CHANCE you miss 3 times in row... the game is extremly bugged with RNG and MMR

[@meyatetana2973]

Honestly tired of people saying it's RNG when a computer can not and never can produce random. Ever.

[@AP-yy3ve]

When you think you pass 75% for sure but fail all 3-4.. and pass at less than 45% bruh…

[@bumbleecorp9824]

Chance of cracking = chance of not getting the node. Dunno where did people read that is the chance of getting it.

[@fastcars1road]

rare ability you are guaranteed 5 , mid max low character is waste time wait till t2 or t3 area

[@chriskane482]

why do a video about facetting effectively, then do the stones ineffectively.

[@killtality8066]

so is the stone useless if I dont get 5 nodes? this rng trrash btw i had 75 failed that 3 times on my good one.

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

it's not useless as such, but it's better to have more blue and fewer reds. I'll have to do an engraving guide to explain

[@cmel7841]

ya if you have +1 on something else it would make up for it

[@Out_of_Dark]

i somehow got an epic stone with 12 hits xD is that good ?

[@LoaWorn]

Thank you didn't know this.

[@user-qh2gi5iu1y]

Literally no explanation on the actual system mechanic like the nodes just made a vid to talk about general probability of numbers.

[@Raidena5]

couldnt see your mouse tho

[@BlackoutGamingChannel]

sorry, the mouse is a pain to record on this game :(

[@marliesplays]

Great video, helps a lot, thank you!!!

[@kzpylj7729]

If i get 2 consecutive cracks on a stone I want, I just throw the whole stone I get tilted so easily 😂

[@PacketMix_]

Great explanation, thanks.