Lost Hero of the Golden Age Ep.13 The Black Bat

[@davincent98]

A man who loses his sight, gains super senses and becomes a vigilante? That also sounds like Daredevil. I would not be surprised if Stan Lee had read these stories

[@frankstrawnation]

One is an attorney and the other is a district attorney. More coincidences.

[@theobserver6579]

Nearly every Marvel and DC character is copied from pulp heroes with Doc Savage bring the inspiration for both Superman and Fantastic Four.

[@FirstnameLastname-my7bz]

they also ripped him for Two Face, guy gets acid thrown at him by criminals for doing his job

[@thebatman4848]

@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz Yeah, and Haleyquin (pines) copied the Joker.

[@MarcelGomesPan]

I was thinking Daredevil too.

[@MrBonesSrIII]

So basically, the same guy who invented Zorro, also laid the groundwork for Batman, Sandman, and Daredevil

[@michaelquebec6653]

The vintage feel of the reenactment was very cool. Hoping you'll do your own Black Bat serial series!

[@princecharon]

I like the 're-enactment' bits. If you want to do a full Black Bat fanfilm, I think you could get a lot of viewers.

[@KellyKMc]

Those re-enactments really made the video and sets it above all others in this genre in production quality. It also doesn’t require a large collection of wigs (shout out to Sasha of Casually Comics)

[@FizzFop1]

Thanks Kelly! I would love to try to do more re-enactments in the future. The hardest part of the re-enactments was getting everybody together to shoot the scenes. Everyone's schedules were different. The other difficult (and costly) part was finding a cowl that worked. I went through five other attempts before I came across the Flash cowl.

[@anthonyfrias5533]

The pulps had so many great underappreciated writers

[@VinnyS9143101982]

If it wasn't for Bill Finger there'd be two bat themed lost heroes.

[@gagecrawley6223]

Man! What a history lesson! I love learning about obscure superheroes! I tend to ignore the more mainstream superheroes, such as Batman, Spider-Man, Superman, Womder Woman, Captain America, an so on. Mostly because everyone knows about those heroes. We’re already very familiar with their origin stories and publication histories. But when it comes to obscure superheroes, ones that have been lost in the publication archives, it makes learning about them all the more interesting, and far more exciting. I wish there were more historians like you, who dig into the obscure and the unknown.

[@CinemaniacComicsCorner]

Gage Crawley I agree! While I watch a bunch of comic youtubers’ videos there is something fascinating in these videos that focus on and explore forgotten superheroes or the lesser known creators that have been left in the shadow of the likes of Stan Lee. That’s why I love these mini documentaries by FizzFop and the videos by Chris from ComicTropes.

[@kevinrobinette8956]

Gage I've been teaching the history of comics for the last ten years. Check out my website www.professorcomic.com. Plenty of comic history there.

[@Gonboo]

The Batman creators basically ripped off the pulps to make Batman. The Bat, Black Bat, The Shadow and Zorro all were clearly inspirations for Batman.

[@Carlos-xz3vi]

Didn’t the Black Bat hit stands at the same time as Batman though?

[@Carlos-xz3vi]

So Stan Lee ripped off the pulp to make Spiderman? (See The Spider pulp magazine)?

[@defectiverfanatic]

@@Carlos-xz3vi no. Black Cat hit the stands way earlier.

[@wesleycook7687]

Like to see The Black Bat movie. It is obvious that Bob Kane created Batman off this character and Zorro.

[@GabrielRamirez-uv8ce]

Oh stop. "Ripped" off. The shadow and zorro? Cease your fucking reaching

[@geoffberesford]

First-class presentation and thoroughly well researched. Yes, didn't you know it? The history goes back much further than we had been led to believe. Bob Kane always came across to me as a well-practised bullshitter who largely invented his own backstory of events as the years progressed right up to the present day. Now at long last, the evidence is here before us in pulp comic book form and can no longer be ignored. Bravo to the producers of this short movie documentary! Well done indeed!

[@FizzFop1]

Thanks Geoff. There's a really interesting documentary on Bill Finger that was on Netflix. I think it might be called Batman and Bill. It really goes over how Kane took credit for everything and Bill Finger was left out in the cold. Finger's story is very sad and Kane was no where to help him out.

[@antarwilliams1531]

I really enjoyed the reenactments. They bring a higher quality to the overall enjoyment of the production.

[@themaninblack7503]

I love the format for this character. I would love to see a crossover with Batman meeting the Black Bat in some alternate reality.

[@2rrkd]

4:20 For those of us who wondered what Batman would be like if he wasn't a billionaire.

[@veltonpires8199]

What a job you are doing here. Congratulations.

[@LeighMet]

Catwoman was also inspired by Heddy Lemarr. Two face was inspired by the spencer tracy version of Jekel and Hyde

[@StillLateToTheParty]

Absolutely fascinating! Nice b&w scenes as well. Very good old film look!

[@lucascoval828]

The amount of pulp content that Marvel & DC creators "took inspiration" from is staggering.

[@comicfan72]

This story was VERY enlightening, and I enjoyed the recreation of the characters and stories, giving it that old 30s serials vibe!

[@FizzFop1]

Hi comicfan72! That old movie serial feel is what I was going for.

[@VSarquiza]

Recently got a copy of the Dynamite Comics version because I got curious when I watched this video back in 2020 I think, I actually loved it and would buy some more. Thanks for educating me about this hero

[@joshuadelgado1286]

We need to return to the old days of pulp

[@claytonjacobs4098]

Yup. We need more blatant racism, poor characterization and repetitive plots for sure.

[@michaelgagliano450]

I found your portrayals to be satisfactory.the historical information you've provided priceless thank you

[@nigelwalker6103]

Great video. It's interesting how intertwined the history of the two characters is. I really liked the reenactments. I could imagine them having made a film serial of the Black Bat in the 40s if not for the success of Batman.

[@CHDanhauser]

Awesome video! Thanks. Informative and entertaining. I loved the extra special live-action re-enactments! Keep up the great work!

[@CSLucasEpic]

I can see how Fox was an inspiration for The Penguin. He had a terrible reputation within the industry. He would often have writers and artists workung in terrible conditions and was known for not paying salaries, often counting on the artists being too broke to aford a lawyer to sue him. He would also use any scheme imaginable to avoid paying the printing presses themselves. This was all in line to his previous endeavors before starting his comic book company, which was scamming people by starting fake companies. He had in The Blue Beetle one of the most popular characters of the Golden Age, with its own radio show, but squandered it all to make a quick buck, losing the character to Holyoke to pay a debt then suing them to get the character back. In short, Fox was an absolute scumbag, and he is remembered as such.

[@FizzFop1]

Currently working on a Fox video. You would not believe the schemes that guy pulled off. The man was a master con-artist.

[@CSLucasEpic]

I'll look forward to it. ​@@FizzFop1

[@datamag2018]

Freaking fascinating! The history of the start of comics, the rivalries the back biting the competition, the fights over IPs, just mind blowing! Great stuff!

[@ivanbadico1518]

Man, I loved everything about this episode. Everything. All the details, the guy dressed as Black Belt, it's everything amazing. Now I wanna see a web series with this character. Thanks from a Brazilian fan and now subscriber.

[@varanid9]

This re-enactment was quite well done, I thought. Keep up the great work!

[@drewwy_draws]

Me: “Mom can we have Batman?” Mom: “We have Batman at home.” Batman at home:

[@neilkendrick4976]

thank you fellow, as a fan of The Batman, I learned a few things I didn't before. And, the reenactments were darn good. Kudos to you all!

[@stevencorrez7042]

Nice job on the video, I like the hero reenactments that you did, and perfect music to go along with it. Since I have seen your video, I have begun to read the Black Bat.

[@RamsTheNameCom]

Black Bat was actually one of my favorite comic book superheros growing up!

[@Steve_Green]

An extremely interesting wander down memory lane. Full marks to all involved.

[@piah.3670]

I am from Germany and I know the Black Bat (in German: Die schwarze Fledermaus) so long years. I have some old novels from him in my collection. In this novels can Mr Quin after the Operation see in the night how other peoples in the daylight. For me was Batman from DC not the realy Hero. He was a Imitator. But his story is good, too.

[@richardrosenthal9552]

Interesting video. I was unaware of the Pines pulps and comics. I was equally unaware of the connection between Batman and the Black Bat. I enjoyed this and will keep watching.

[@FirstnameLastname-my7bz]

there is also connection to Daredevil and Two Face

[@poiesist]

The cut-ins created engagement and offered cohesion in a stylistically relevant way... A+. The storytelling was well executed, information well presented, and clarity abounded. There's care in your craft that's not just money funneled into making something look good. Full props and thanks!

[@FizzFop1]

Thanks c.e.!

[@garycarpenter2980]

It was good this is the first time I've heard of the Black Bat and I collect Batman and Detective comics plus the Shadow,Green Hornet and Doc Savage

[@SuperWolsey]

Most notable publushers of recent years being both Moonstone and Dynamite Entertainment; the latter used him for the Pulp teamup adatation of the Spider's Black Legion arc (MASKS) and the 2013 modernization of the character which only lasted a full year

[@wesleycook7687]

Batman was based on Zorro to name one influence. Batman's secret identity is Bruce Wayne. Zorro's is Don Diego. Batman and Zorro are both vigilantes. The Zorro novels were already out before Batman was concieved. The first Zorro movie was Mark Of Zorro starring Douglas Fairbanks Sr. in 1920. The similarities are too great to be an accident.. Bob Kane said himself that he read the Zorro books and had seen the 1920 movie. The characters are similar even though the time periods are different.

[@ΠαναγιωτηςΑγγελ]

Many Superheroes are based on Zorro not just that overrated moron but Zorro association with Batman should stop Zorro incorporates hystorical content you don't have to bring him up when you say about Batman and definitely not the other way around

[@ChristinaGetrost]

This was so much fun to watch! Fascinating story, very well-executed. Kudos!

[@jymmcdonald7491]

16:58 11/29/2023 I love these reenactments it's like finding a lost episode or an unpublished issue that as a kid that I missed because my allowance only went so far,gotta save some cash for movies and after school candy. Thanks for these GREAT articles ✌️SPACE RANGER JYM

[@mollytherealdeal]

This is another great episode. I liked the re-enactment of the Black Bat story.

[@albertmendiola408]

Thank you for posting these. I'd hate to see some of these historic characters die off over time.

[@FizzFop1]

You're welcome and thank you Albert for watching!!!

[@rebeccakickass1776]

I loved ❤️ that you made live action recreational of "The Black Bat" 🦇 story lines... love your work kept doing a great just

[@FizzFop1]

Thanks, I keep saying I'm going to do live action again...but I just haven't committed the time to do it. Also, I haven't come across a character to inspire me to go through the time and energy it takes.

[@rebeccakickass1776]

@@FizzFop1 hey it would just be cool if you read a whole BlackBat story or Lady Domino she sounded cool too

[@JokerL1000]

Im glad someone else shares my enjoyment of the golden age heroes

[@Sir_Soaplo]

I got The Black Bat Archives: Volume 1 recently. According to the introduction, he was originally going to be call "The Tiger," but was changed to "The Black Bat," so it would coincide with the "Black Book Detective" magazine they had acquired. Edit: I should mention I can't find a refrence to this fact on the Fandom or Wikipedia page.

[@betaraybrad91]

this is the kind of comic book history I've been craving. keep it up.

[@wmdbassplayer]

Excellent video! I was always a fan of Batman and during the time I worked at Warner Publishers Services, I met the comics archive librarian and was invited to the vault a few times and allowed to read original books from the Golden and Silver Ages. I picked up a lot of comic history during that time, but everything in this video regarding the Black Bat and Joker and Two Face connections is new to me. Keep it going, looking forward to more!

[@FizzFop1]

Wow wmdbassplayer!!! That sounds like a dream opportunity for a lot of us!

[@travishiltz4750]

Great character. In the last couple years I've found some reprints of his pulp stories. Surprised he never got a cliffhanger serial. Seems like a character that would have been perfect.

[@oldbaldfatman2766]

April 18, 2019---Thanks for the video as I never hear of these pulp characters. At 65, used to read Superman/Batman comic books as a kid when I had a paper route in Homestead, Florida starting in 1960. At the time, they were 10 cents each and then came that new comic book company called Marvel with Spiderman and Daredevil being my favorites. The X-Men was too weird for me and the Fantastic Four was okay. About cried when prices went to12 cents, but still bought 'em. Think I had about 300 comic books when we moved to Calif. (Dad was in the Air Force) and mom had the job of driving us (5 kids & a dog) there in our station wagon. Told me we couldn't take them, they weren't worth anything and no room in the station wagon for them. The movers got my collection. Thought I'd see what happened to The Bat and Ebay has reprints of the magazines. As for William F Jenkins Sideway in Time book, it's an audio book via Amazon, Barnes & Noble, etc. There is a paperback of another of his stories called Space Tug via Amazon for $2.95.While I never read any of the pulp magazines, I sure as heck loved their covers.

[@donaldpetkus1637]

I really enjoyed the re-enactments and would love to see more of this kind of work.

[@johnpisciotto7115]

Excellent video, really enjoyed the recreations!

[@warwrestling9347]

I plan on doing my own story with all 3 of the public domain Black Bat characters. This was very helpful with my research so thanks for this.

[@FizzFop1]

Hi WARwrestling! Let me know how it goes. I've found myself drawing these characters as well.

[@silverdays2909]

NOT IF I DO IT FIRST ITS A RACE

[@stormofscript719]

Really cool stuff! The Golden Age is super interesting to me and I love these sorts of behind the scene stories. If Black Bat is in the public domain there's so many fascinating things one could do with the character.

[@FizzFop1]

Hi Grant, yeah I know. I'm sort of surprised that there's not a dozen Black Bat titles and movies out there.

[@charlesmorgan7219]

Being interested in platinum & golden age, this is a treasure trove of information. Fantastic in depth history. Great video.👍

[@JoaoGabriel-et4kq]

Platinum age!?

[@briansmith2207]

Great job on this! It's clear there were some inspirations from black bat, the bat, zorro etc but that can be said of many different characters...I've been aware of these characters for some time and enjoy their stories and I'm glad you did a video on this so that hopefully others will seek them out and enjoy as well

[@theacolyte2010]

This was well put together and very knowledgeable. Keep up the great work.

[@King_Hyperion89]

Outstanding video. I've been reading Superhero Comics since I was a lil' kid. In my late 30's now. And lately been going towards more classical "heroes" such as Conan, The Shadow, John Carter and The Spider. The Black Bat has caught my eye as of late. Along with Sheena and Vampirella. The no-kill rule for modern heroes has gotten old. There's only so many times you can read the same Batman "story" from DC before you get bored. It's like the modern superhero is inept for not permanently solving the villains plaguing their cities.

[@FizzFop1]

Glad you liked the video. I can't wait to show you what I'm working on. I think it's going to blow people's mind.

[@gilrivera1813]

Keep doing what you're doing brother. 👍 I love your videos and your channel, great stuff. I hope you get well Darrin, my family & I are praying for you.

[@FizzFop1]

Hi Gil! Thanks for watching! I'm doing well. Recovering from a second surgery. I'm still a little sore. I've been quadruple checked with scans, blood tests, x-rays, and they shoved a camera up my a$$...they all say the same thing...I'm cancer free! Hopefully I will be around to make videos for years to come. Thank you for your prayers!

[@artytomparis]

I loved those old pulp comics. Used to travel for miles to get a copy each week :)

[@kevinclark8356]

a great video as always. I always learn something from these, keep the great work.

[@julianhermanubis6800]

I've read twelve of the original Black Bat pulp novels from the 1940s, and the character really does come across like a mash-up of Batman and Daredevil with a bit of Two-Face thrown in for his origin. The costume and guns are like 1939 Batman (and the pulp version of the Shadow indirectly) while his superhuman senses are very reminiscent of Daredevil (although the night vision angle is more like Dr. Mid-Nite from the JSA). The Black Bat's villains are a lot less interesting than other pulp heroes like the Shadow, Doc Savage or the Spider though, and the Black Bat's assistants are kind of generic (pretty but tough girl, big bruiser and conman/master of disguise). Also, the fact that several members of the police force seem to have deduced that Tony Quinn is really the Black Bat but never seem to be able to do anything about it is kind of weird.

[@toonman59]

I have read The Bat and The Bat Returns and they are well written and meet the high standards of the pulp genre. The story is fast paced and the character is engaging and the action is intense. Such type of heroes are now very in need today. Pulp heroes were the image of the age in which they were born and today's heroes are more gritty without the central core of classical hero image.

[@FizzFop1]

Hi Bob! I believe that The Bat was the work of Johnston McCulley. He still has a very loyal fan base who loves his work...I've been wanting to read some of his stuff for quite some time. I just finished reading Robert E. Howard's Conan stories...they were amazing. I agree with what you're saying about today's heroes. One thing I notice missing with a lot of current comic book heroes is that they are lacking a personal code of honor. The focus is more on grittiness and mindless violence...violence for violence sake. The actual reason for violence or the lament of violence is missing

[@toonman59]

@@FizzFop1 I agree. Currently I am developing a novel around a pulp styled hero. I have been a fan of the pulps, The Shadow, The Avenger, Doc Savage and The Spider. I am very glad I found your channel and can be counted as a new subscriber.

[@FizzFop1]

Thanks Bob! I appreciate your support! I should have some new videos out soon!

[@paxhumana2015]

@@FizzFop1 , Kenshiro of Hokuto no Ken/Fist of the North Star is in a violent franchise, but still has a code of honor.

[@rclark777]

It's funny how both The Bat and Batman got the idea to strike fear into the hearts of criminals via a bat that flies in through a window, were framed for the crimes of a villain and branded criminals with a "bat symbol".

[@rclark777]

Also, an attorney who gets acid thrown in his face and goes on a violent one-man war against the criminals who wronged him? Sounds like Two-Face.

[@Diabolik771]

These are awesome mini documentaries.

[@MichaelRBrown-lh6kn]

CORRECTION- Carole Baldwin was NOT the daughter of the scientist. Her father was a police chief slain in the line of duty. It was HIS eyes that were transplanted into Quinn. The scientist had done secret experiements that would give someone the ability to see in the dark, and added that in. This surgery did NOT enhance his strength. The Black Bat's only unique ability was to see in the dark, along with enhanced senses from the time he was blind. that's it. ALSO, he did NOT wear a cowl. He has a full face mask, unlike what is shown on the covers. The Black Bat stories and comics from Airship 27 make sure to get this correct, while others do not.

[@ohimleyesh4866]

Great episode of Lost Hero- , the reenactment was great! Thankx for uploading & sharing.

[@archangel5627]

I just found your channel today and your insight into the Golden Age characters is truly fascinating. This is an amazing series of videos. I’m going to watch them all and I look forward to more great content. I especially loved the superhero reenactment of the Black Bat. You should definitely do more reenactments in future videos. Excellent job and you have a new fan!

[@FizzFop1]

Thanks Sebastien!!!

[@CDHord]

Like the reenactments, unique element to your channel! Also appreciate the history of an otherwise obscure time period. Keep up the good work!

[@nighttigercomics7323]

I'm loving your Lost Hero series immensely. Thanks for such fun while being educated.

[@richardpaulhall]

"DC agreed not to go into the pulp magazine business." But Harry Donenfeld, who "owned" National Allied Publications, was also publishing pulp magazines, the Trojan. Culture, and Arrow lines. (Donenfeld took great pains to keep the connection between his "Spicy" pulps separate from his "kid-friendly" comic books.) The history of the pulp magazines and comic books is complex. The owners, financiers, distributors, and printers all overlap. Two publishers with different street addresses could actually be sharing office space because many corner office buildings in NYC had addresses on both streets.

[@FizzFop1]

Hi Richard! Thanks for watching! Tracking pulp publishers is crazy. The thing about Donenfeld was that he barely got acquitted of pornography charges in Indianapolis. He came real close to doing hard time. Luckily for him, Action Comics came out and he found a new direction to follow. By 1939, he was already downsizing the pulp lines and replacing it with comics. I go into more detail about Donenfeld and the Spicy Pulps in my Domino Lady video. Check it out when you get a chance.

[@richardpaulhall]

Donenfeld was running Trojan Publishing Corp.'s Speed titles until 1949. "By 1939, he was already downsizing the pulp lines and replacing it with comics." He ran his pulp and comic lines as separate businesses. He took great efforts to hide the fact the Spicy and Speed pulps were under the same corporate umbrella as his wholesome comic books.

[@FizzFop1]

I admit I don't know much about Trojan. I'll have to read up on them sometime. I don't believe the DC publishing line moved in pulps. Their adventure heroes were pretty close to the adventure heroes in Pines pulps. That's probably what Donenfeld and Pines agreed to. Did Trojan have any characters in line with DC Comics? I need to read up on that.

[@darrinkemp1755]

The Bat sounds like a combo of Batman and Sandman.

[@theman_Fayth]

This was fantastic, and really well put together. Thanks.

[@FizzFop1]

Thank you Geovanni!

[@tomripsin730]

Fun video. I really liked the live action segments.

[@FizzFop1]

They were fun to do...I'm planning on doing them again for a future episode.

[@KingBoxer119]

You Guy's did a great job with the hero reenactments, I really enjoyed them.

[@FizzFop1]

Thanks KingBoxer119! I keep telling myself that I want to do reenactments again...but when do I have the time? With what character? By the way, in case you missed it...there's another not so superhero reenactment at the end of my Stan Lee video!

[@KingBoxer119]

@@FizzFop1 Sweet! I'll be sure to check it out. Been binge watching your videos since I found them. I can't wait to see what you guys release down the line.

[@FizzFop1]

For the most part, it's just me. I get my friends involved from time to time.

[@sergiohernandez5081]

Man i love your channel and the way You told the cómic history. Thank You so much!

[@knighthood7676]

I always felt the Black Bat was a missed opportunity. Despite being restricted to pulps you would think he would have made the movie serials or radio. Either of those would have made him eclipse Batman in fame. Loved the video. Thanks for the tribute to one of my favorite little known heroes.

[@FizzFop1]

Hi KH! I agree...the Black Bat is a missed opportunity. There's potential there...as well as Johnston McCulley's The Bat character. With the Black Bat in public domain, I'm surprised that there is not more new product out there. For the Domino Lady, there's a cottage industry of new material--but not so much for Black Bat. He's a good solid character...can't understand it. When I made this video, I seriously thought about making a comic book or making a short film with an actual plot. I like the Black Bat, but I don't think he could eclipse Batman for a number of reasons. Being part of the DC Universe and having Bill Finger as the principle writer on Batman was too much for The Black Bat to overcome. Batman also has probably the highest level of pathos of any superhero. He's a mentally scared child seeking revenge for the death of his parents. People relate through the love of their parents. Then, on top of that, throw in well developed sensational villains who also have high levels of pathos. The Epic of Batman transcends comics and goes into the realm of great literature. I don't believe that The Black Bat could ever overcome all that. If you like this video, check out my Domino Lady video. It doesn't have the connection with Batman, but it is a good companion with the stories in this video.

[@knighthood7676]

Dynamite Comics did a Black Bat series starting in 2013. I don't know if it is still going or not, but I enjoyed what I read of it. He was also one of the heroes in their "Masks" series, which I would like to see done into a film.

[@MichaelRBrown-lh6kn]

CORRECTION- Black Bat Mysteries was NOT published by Pines/Thrilling. It was published by Berryman Press. I've NEVER heard that Berryman was owned by Pines.

[@grantbarnes3678]

Thanks for this--it's fantastic! It's interesting how The Bat prefigures the Golden Age Sandman and The Black Bat Daredevil.

[@FizzFop1]

Hi Grant T B! Yep and by about 5 years to boot. If you think that's amazing, check out my video on The First Superhero. Spring-Heeled Jack looks like some sort of Gilded Age Steam Punk version of Batman and predates him by 80 years.

[@BigApeBooks]

I enjoyed this very much. The reenactments were well done and really enhanced the video.

[@johnbockelie3899]

Bob Kane was known for not ever creating Batman.Bill Finger had more to do with it.

[@thebatman4848]

Bob Kane created the name, Bill Finger created everything else.

[@zyxwvut4740]

Loved the re-enactments! The whole thing was well researched and these scenes helped spice up the archival footage. But yes- _please_ - lose the record scratches, or at least lower the volume 50%.

[@VaultBoy-ox1sx]

Hmmm? Criminals left with a bat brand. Hmm? I wonder where I’ve seen that.

[@REDGOATcomicbooks.13]

you did really good job on making this video. I love the black bat.

[@glennbishopbishthemagish]

Outstanding... Very well done.

[@tavraney3289]

This is TV level material! I just found this channel and blow away

[@FizzFop1]

Thanks Tav!!!

[@sadisticsmile5413]

To be honest this guy over here is my fav comics youtuber. That there is quality content and none other than fizz does it good.

[@FizzFop1]

Thanks BBQ Sauce!!! That reminds me...I need to clean my grill!

[@gregggaldo9181]

Another GREAT video!!....Thank You!!

[@CRocketSlim]

Superhero Black Bat's origin combines elements of Daredevil's and to a certain degree, Harvey "Two Face" Dent's. Craziness

[@joshfawkes3881]

After watching this video I researched it a bit. It turns out Harvey Dent, or Harvey Kent as he was originally called, may have been a kind of insult by DC in there fued over which bat was the true batman.

[@johnmalandrino3188]

It’s great to see how so many hero’s are a mix of other hero’s. Keep it coming.

[@martintyler4962]

A very good piece of history.

[@johnlepre5502]

A fantastic presentation. Thank you!

[@tyrssen1]

Very cool -- I'd never known any of this. As a kid in the late 1950-s early 60's, I can tell ya that by that time, pulp fiction mags were all but dead and gone. We were buying comics -- at ten cents apiece.

[@JohnnyStroud]

I'm just now seeing this, and re-enactments were SPOT-ON! Thanks

[@FizzFop1]

Hi J Thomas Stroud! Thanks for watching! I keep saying I need to do re-enactments for another video.

[@CSLucasEpic]

Some coments are focusing on the comparsions on Batman and who ripped off who. Personally, I think its not a question between the Black Bat and Batman. Its more of a question between Batman and The Spider. The Spider came out years before Batman did, by the time Batman came out, The Spider was already a popular, established character, with a successful film serial. As a character The Spider is: A millionaire that has a crime fighting persona he uses at night, using it to strike fear on criminals. Has gadgets invented by a third party especially for him (one of them an unbreakable rope to climb) Has a servant that knows his secret idenity and has combat experience to help him in his secret mission. A master of disguise, he has an identity he uses to infiltrate the underworld, "Blinky" McQuade, similar to how Batman poses as "Matches" Malone to infiltrate the underworld too. He has a long selection of supervillains with theme names like The Fly who is a recurring enemy, or in some cases enemies that take him several issues and stories to track down and defeat, like Tang-Akhmut, the Living Pharaoh. Others include The Master, The Red Mandarin, The Bloody Serpent and The Master. All of these traits and tropes were well established by The Spider well before Batman or the Black Bat came out. If Batman ripped off someone, then it was The Spider, not the Black Bat.

[@frazergreen6786]

Batman's initial issue is a blatant plagiarism of one of the pulp hero The Shadow's books the ''Partners of Peril'', look up The Rageaholic's series entitled ''Enter The Shadow'' where he brings up this fact. You'll enjoy it and learn about the sire of the superheroes.

[@papacastor7458]

100% right

[@TheDemigreg]

@@frazergreen6786 The shadow is himself a rip off of the Judex, Zorro and the scarlet pimpernel, the shadow is less original then even the character he inspired batman. Calling him the sire of superheros is a bit ridiculous.

[@thecomicspreacher3547]

I LOVE your videos -- such good quality and obvious devotion to putting in the work for the research. Thank you.

[@thecomicspreacher3547]

Interesting insight on the impetus for the creation of two-face and the bat gloves. Black bat agreed to stay in the pulp mags if Batman agreed to stay in the comics ...HA! -- hindsight is 20/20, I guess.

[@FizzFop1]

Yeah, I guess it wasn't a win-win situation for everyone...maybe it was...Pines became chummy with some of the head people at DC during the negotiations. I couldn't remember where I read it...but I read or heard somewhere that Pines and DC owner Harry Donenfeld were golf buddies...which I'm not sure is right because I think both were Jewish...and country club golf courses were known for discrimination against Jews well into the 1950s and 60s. When I looked for confirmation on that story, I couldn't find it so I didn't include it in this video. Regardless, Pines survived the comic collapse of the early 1950s which probably meant that his titles were being distributed by DC. That would have given him a huge advantage over most competitors. It also would have given him a larger coast to coast distribution. It would have meant larger print runs and larger profits for him.

[@thecomicspreacher3547]

+FizzFop1 huh, interesting

[@vikuelplahas9827]

amazing , informative, eye- opening piece. love the reanactment.

[@emiliorios4168]

Very informative great job love your channel

[@moman1701a]

I didn’t know about the black bat. Thank you for telling the story. At a distance the black bat looked like Kevin Costner coming out of fog. Very cool.

[@FizzFop1]

Hi edwin! I hope my friend Vince (who played the Black Bat) doesn't see this! It will go to his head. lol

[@HustleWorldEnt1]

Awesome video, this was very interesting and worth knowing! If The Black Bat never came into existence I guess its safe to say Batman would never been a thing! But the funny thing I've noticed in this video there was a comic called Catman (@11:40) and I remembered Adam West (1960s Batman) voiced for the character Catman in the animated series The Fairly Odd Parents 😂😂😂 Could you do a piece on Catman for us? 😎👍🐱 Side note: I never had a clue Catman was a real comic I thought it was a parody for the Fairly Odd Parents show and they chosen Adam West since he was Batman back in the day

[@joaomotta9652]

It's funny how i can't remember math class,but i learned the whole history told in these videos hahaha,your videos are great!

[@FizzFop1]

Lol! The only thing I remember about math class was the math teacher confiscating my copies of Warlord and Kamandi. At the end of the school year, she returned them to me...but they were bent up.