Lost "Uber Driver" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep. 50

[@rickrunner2219]

you are simply the best Noel, great show, great review. The Uber driver looks amazing. you make me drooling on that board. thanks Noel, no one can stand next to your reviews you beat them all !

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Blade Runner Wow cheers for the kind words. Stoked you like our show.... get your hands on one of these UD Grovelers...

[@rjshelsea1651]

Thank you Noel, been waiting on this one and you didn't disappoint!!!! I appreciate you adding the Psycho Killer comparison at the end. Keeping it in the ..lost family and giving us a solid review comparison knowing where both boards excel. Shredding in the water and with the reviews Brother, keep up the great work!!!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

RJ Shelsea Stoked you like this review. The Uber Driver is a Favorite for me for 2018!!!

[@craigsteven5343]

Your right about the carbon wrap being worth the extra money.. in Australia a carbon wrap is about another $200 extra than a PU. My puddlefish is PU Im like 240 pounds (110kg) I had it glassed strong 4x6x4 it has a few compressions under the front foot. But it is glassed heavy. My carbon wrap quiver killer (which I’ve had longer) has not one compression under front foot and only small compressions in front of tail pad from duck diving.. so def worth the extra money.. And think of it as an investment because your do better in the resale when you’re done with the board..

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Craig Steven Well said and thanks posting this for the rest of us. Cheers!!!

[@elb2018]

Just got my hands on one of these as a demo, can’t say I’ve had a bad wave on it the thing flies, turns on a dime and still capable of proper turns for a small wave board. If comparing it to the B.B. It’s not that it’s a bad board but the UD is way more exciting for me. B.B. feels better in longer rail carves but that’s about it, everywhere else UD slaps it’s arse.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

elb2018 Thanks for posting this for the rest of us. The UD is a legit small wave performance board for me too. Cheers

[@whosjohn_jon]

Hi Noel just wanted to thank you for the review of this board! I actually watched this video while I was on deployment and knew i wanted a new custom shortboard when i got back. Long story short the video helped my decision of what i was looking to get and it became my new favorite shortboard so thanks for indirectly helping me out in the process of ordering the board!

[@sdsurfs]

Hey Noel and community, so I picked up a stock 5'6" actually the very board you reviewed in the video... I'm 5'8" 145lbs Intermediate 8 years surfing, surfing in San Diego. I gotta say, I LOVE this board! I've tried a bunch of boards you've reviewed and this is probably my favorite so far. I love my Lost Driver and this feels just like that board when surfing, but just easier to get in the wave and flatter rockered. I've taken it out in 2-5ft conditions and it's worked perfectly with the medium Kalohe fins. Overall I love this board and agree with your review, but I think ideal wave range for me on this board is probably more like 2-5ft, or 2-6ft. If you love Lost boards, especially the Driver series, I think you gotta try this board out. Easy to surf and paddle, but still performs very similar to the Driver. STOKED to find a magic board! Thanks for the awesome reviews Noel!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Chris Fan Epic... stoked you found a magic carpet. Thanks for posting!!!

[@russellpizel3750]

Agree. Am same weight and have same board and love it - but needs 2 feet+ surf. My experience with fins at local small beach break... The Medium FCSII MB fins give it incredible drive, but can be a little stiff for this lightweight surfer at times. So I tried medium reactors in neo-glass and these held speed through carving turns noticeable better, were the carbon fins punished your speed if your carve wasn't executed well i.e. neo-glass helps your carving turns at the expense of some responsiveness. (my 2c).

[@paultarbotton9461]

I bought a uber driver 5'11". Thought it was a dog. Thought it was too thin for me so I bought a seconded one, Same thing. Thought there was some wrong with this model , just didn't seem to work for me. I got some really good barrels on the uber but turns were just wrong. I parked them in the shed and was thinking about selling them. I have a 6'2" driver 2.0 . I took the fins that were working for me in the driver 2.0 and put them into the uber. The uber has gone from being a dog to being an unbelievable board. Some of the waves I have had on the uber are now are hard to believe. I keep rewinding the rides in my mind to make sure that they have actually happened. I am 57 years old, 89kgs riding 31.5 lts and can't believe it's going this good. Well done Matt Biolos, I now know what Mick Fanning was talking about in the stab in the dark board review.

[@ryangustafson889]

I hate my 5.11 immediately. Maybe its the length.

[@paultarbotton9461]

@@ryangustafson889 try some different fins. I thought mine was shit too until I got the fins right.

[@flaikaff2474]

Hi Paul, What fins did you use? Im thinking on getting one UD

[@Surf_Salt]

Which fins worked and which ones did'nt? @@paultarbotton9461

[@mikepowers9580]

Really love when you review your surfing clips. Gives great insight into how experienced surfers view drawing a line i.e. maneuver decisions.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

mike powers Stoked you like our show... thanks for your comments

[@kingsofmayhem]

Another great review Noel...that board looks so fun. I wish I could jump on different boards like you and not miss a beat...ripping..!!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

kingsofmayhem Cheers.... there is always a little adjust time but for boards like this UD it was only a wave or two.

[@youdig-detection]

Hi noel, could you make a series about surf move, for exemple the different kind of cut back and so forth. No matter what the board i really like you watching riding , and sometime i slow the video to see how you perform the move. You should make a serie only riding your quiver as well , just pure surf. Thumb up !

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Youdig So Sick... glad you like our show and more people are asking for tutorials like you are requesting. Maybe I will in the near future. Cheers

[@Julianuribe23]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 and you did!

[@bencostantini5771]

Was thinking the same about the baby buggy???? You mentioned it at the end but keen to hear your thoughts

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Ben Costantini They are Very similar but the Uber Driver has more down the line speed compared to the Baby Buggy. Both boards are EPIC though!!!

[@mtnrabi]

You need to do a “top 10 worst boards”. I feel like your feedbacks are generally positive, and would love to see some boards you felt didn’t work

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Here is what a board review looks like when I don’t feel like a board has WOW factor. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6erkJSrar2toK8si=PuAkvB-4INRz3L5s

[@montanawhite4075]

Which is your favourite construction? 1Future flex 2Carbon wrap 3Hyfi js 4LFT slater Design

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Jakob Kaspar FF has the fastest spring back, Helium is most durable with good flex, but all of them are durable and feel alive under my feet in small waves. If I had to choose one FF.

[@karljakobsson2687]

Best reviews on KZbin! Yeeeeeow! Thanks!

[@ran7151]

Hi Noel Love your reviews ! Need your advice for: HD or f13 for small Mediterranean beach breaks , I want more release fill in the pocket.. one more thing is about the size fins, normally I prefer the large (I’m 150lb)fin for the bigger and faster wave to add more control. On small waves I tried like you recommended large(performance neo)but it feels to tide for me. Maybe to try the reactor large for the small waves? I surf now on og flyer 27.5 and it feel great 3-4 feet .for smaller waves I have gremlin but I don’t like it because I prefer more of the HPSB feel. Thanks Keep going bro

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Ran Hadad Get the Large Reactors and put them in the Gremlin.... I would go UD for the small wave performance board.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Ran Hadad You can also try a Medium Performer Center fin to loosen up that NEO Glass set.

[@ran7151]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 I will give the gremlin another chance with large reactor...and update .thanks

[@FluidSurfing]

I have it and this is the best board ever. ❤

[@sladestreet6086]

This guy has sold me about 7 of Matt's boards. Getting pricey!!!

[@rizkycooking6202]

Thank you for your great work Noel! Im super stoked to see the review of the skx in xtr!! Hope you can do js monsta 8 and the new fw Cymatic. Once again great work. Regards

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Rizky Cooking Thanks glad you liked this review.

[@kellypeters8409]

Which board would be better for 3-6ft beach break, Sub-driver or Uber driver? I'm basically looking for a high performance short board with more paddle power without having to go super long. We wear thick suits and have lots of current. If there is a different model you would recommend I would appreciate it. Thanks!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Kelly Peters Sub Driver

[@henriquevert]

Hi Noel... how do you compare Uber Driver with JS Monsta Box? For 2 to 6ft beach break waves

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Both boards are similar but the UD Carrie’s way more speed

[@pietrobrunelli6986]

Hi noel, which one board quiver would you suggest for average waves? I’m actually torn between Neckbeard 2, Rw and Uber driver. You’re the best, thank you for what you’re doing for the surfing community. Cheers from Italy

[@pirateunder40]

For small waves i love the JR Step Cousin in TRI Flex, you have to try this one! cheers

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

pirateunder40 What does JR stand for... sorry I have no idea what your talking about. I think your talking about fins....?

[@xWaxxy]

Surf n Show Reviews JR is a gold coast shaper. Shapes Wade Charmicheal’s boards, Kerrzy used to ride for him a bit too. Keely Andrews is also on his boards (came second in the Roxy pro recently) Great shapes!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Waxfoot Epic... are you riding his boards too?

[@pirateunder40]

JR stands for Jason Rodd

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

pirateunder40 Ok thanks I will check out his Boards. Cheers

[@dkilla01]

In terms of speed, uber vs the champ sampler ? Fins I like the Ando Black sticks for flex it helps me get vertical in both small and big waves. Summer quiver video? Fred rubble review?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Miguel Marquina UD and Sampler are equally fast but the UD can handle surf up to 5’+. Both boards are epic though. I like those fins too in small waves. FR goes good in 3-8+.

[@jferreira414]

Hey Noel, stuck on what I should do for a new groveler, knee to chest high. something that is still a shortboard. buckled my PU sampler, which I loved. Now seeing this, wondering if I should go Sampler (PU or Spine Tek?) or Uber Drive. Or anything else you may recommend...Thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Johnny Ferreira UD Carbon Wrap!! Try something nee

[@poppiiiii]

Well done mate - you are gonna get all of us go bankrupt haha - on another note, you should tackle some of those Pyzel boards !

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Mathieu Popey Stoked you liked this review. I want to review the Pyzel’s really bad. They want to do 1 board at a time and the Ghost is first but no waves for that board. I wish we started with the Phantom.... maybe Jon will change his mind and send the Phantom sooner than later. Cheers

[@poppiiiii]

yeah you need some waves for the ghost for sure! i just got a pyzalien a few days ago, i m stoked for now. Sits between a hps and a hybrid, perfect for daily surf

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Mathieu Popey I heard that board goes good!!!

[@kapukataumahakaowheo501]

Hi mate. In your experience - how would you size the UD for a daily driver in the 1-5ft range (the same as a surfers height, an inch or two smaller than a person height, or as short as you can go relative to a surfers usual volume)? Also, I am a balanced-footed surfer who turns, trims and pumps down the line with adjustments between front and back foot pressure (while also turning hard off the back foot at the end of cutbacks and extending quickly out of the end of top turns). The Driver series are usually suited to back footed surfers like yourself & CI's Connor Coffin who spend most of the time on your back foot. I was thinking that the way the UD has The Rocket front and the Driver rear could make a Driver for balanced-footed surfers. Perhaps you have some insight. Cheers again :)

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Kapukataumahaka Ōwheo I would size it be liters and dims. Liters... take your weight in pounds and divide it by 6. That will give you a good range for Intermediate to advanced surfers. The UD suits more of a back footed surfer

[@ericlang3630]

Do you think the HS Untitled is more versatile (can surf well in big and small surf) compared to the Uber driver? Thanks for the detailed reviews !

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Eric Lang Yes... the Untitled has a bit more rocker so it handle a litter bigger waves compared to the UD.

[@valdo9482]

Hey Noel, UD vs OG Flyer? Can't decide between these two for my next board. They seem to fit exactly the same range of waves and pretty quick off the mark...

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Valdo van Zyl UD for surf 1-6’. The OG doesn’t grovel as well in 1-3’ surf. Cheers

[@valdo9482]

Surf n Show Reviews thanks champ! UD looks so sick! Thinking of getting a PU+ EPOXY. Not a fan of eps.

[@vicenteborges9058]

Hi Noel , just started watching your reviews today. congratulations for the great job and for the surfing... I just decided making a custom uber driver for my small wave board . I was between the UD or the Psycho killer (third option was the Pudle jumper HP ). Do you think it was a good choice between those 3? Back home here in Brazil when is small is either soft open face waves or dumpy hollow shore breaks. thanks again for the great feedbacks!!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Vicente Borges Yes, the UD will Excel in those conditions. Good choice.

[@honoluluivylicious]

I love your show&reviews! I’m looking for a small wave quiver that works good on small wave days at South Shore Oahu. I usually surf with high performance board with thin rail&taper rail but want to transition to small waves HPB&beat the crowds during the summer . I’m petite and light foot&love doing off the lip.Uber Driver, Driver 2.0 , Subdriver 2.0??? Will appreciate your advice!!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

aiueo UBer Driver in Lightspeed or CW Diamond series

[@honoluluivylicious]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you so much! Lightspeed looks so fast!

[@JorgeRomero-hq6zq]

What about the TOMO hydroshort .. looks like the wizard sleeve of CIS. It would be cool to have a review on this board.

[@gregsmedge6521]

Are there many similarities btwn the the uber driver and the baby buggy? Which one do you like more and would prefer in smallish but fun CA surf?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

They are pretty similar.., I like a Squash Tail better in smaller waves so I say UD

[@francoalva1000]

Thank you for the review Noel. Quick question. I am 5’9, 167 lbs and very intermediate. I am trying to get more maneuvers down, improve my backside and my surfing overall. Do you recommend this board? Also at 5’9 or 5’8? Most reviews say that the UD rides like a skateboard but I want to maintain the surf feel and not lose control when it gets to 5-6ft. I surf a CI Peregrine 5’9 19 2 1/4 right now.

[@joshmason6169]

So appreciate your reviews Noel! Would you recommend the Uber Driver over the PJHP under the following circumstances - Intermediate skill, generally surfing beach break sub 6' (2-4' typically), prefer drive, but like to go hard on rail. 6'6", 210lbs. Can't afford two boards, so wanting to get something that is more versatile rather than just a small wave board (as we get some fun winter 6-10' reef break swells). Seems the UD in EPS would be the ticket, but trust your insights!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Josh Mason Check our the revised 2019 UD. A bit flatter and wider. It will carry more speed and still have excellent performance. The PJHP is a Groveler for 1-3’ waves. The UD is epic in 1-5’ beyond that get on a HPSB or mini step up.

[@joshmason6169]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 THANK YOU! Not having the funds to buy a new SB, seems like the UD would handle those conditions okay... certainly better than the PJHD. In the future I hope to have two quality boards in the quiver, but based upon your review, gonna go with the UD.

[@joshmason6169]

One more question... any suggestions on volume? Lost suggests a general volume for me of about 37L, which would put me at a 6'3". Considering the step to the 6'4", but thinking that may cause a slight loss of fit in the pocket. Not sure an inch will make that big of a difference though.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Josh Mason It’s not the inch in length I would be concerned about... it’s more about overall foam and the way you want to turn it. If your looking for stability then bigger and wider is your ticket. If you want maneuverability then go shorter, narrower, and a little thinner.

[@IIIxwaveIII]

thanks for the review. can you please compare the uber driver with the uber XL? thanks!

[@iLoveTurtle29]

Hello! whats your preference between carbon wrap and spinetek ? i have an OG FLYER spinetek (27L9 perfect for french waves best board since today) and I wanted to know the technology that brings you the most stimulus for a same board. Thanks!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Malo Le Lay For French beach breaks I would go Spinetek... it’s a bit stiffer and it offers a little more predictability In your turns

[@waterdog4191]

Noel, Looking at a UD for my son for knee/head high+ punchy beach break. The only local options are with FCS II fins, not familiar with their lineup. Like you, our go to fins are the Future AM 2's. For FCS II with this board would you go with the FCS AM large fins, the Kolohe Andino's, or the Performers Carbon? Also, for knee/head high + plus punchy beach break, CI Fever or UD? Thanks again.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Water Dog Both boards are epic. For 1-5’ surf I say UD with KA fins. The Fever is a legit HPSB and I recommend it for 3-8’ surf.

[@waterdog4191]

Thanks.

[@irbombardmnt]

Hi Noel. You mention in this video that the board is great for intermediate to advanced surfers. I'm someone who is still in the first few years of surfing, but everyone learns at a different pace. Can you please clarify what it means to be an "Intermediate" surfer? It would help me decide if I'm ready for a board like this and the info can be useful to others too. Thanks!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

irbombardmnt Intermediate surfer... can generate your own speed, do bottom turns, cutbacks, occasional top turns, etc. Someone who is beginner/intermediate, struggles to catch waves on a short board, gets to feet so so, can do a cutback or two.

[@jeffreybailey1518]

I surf a CI 5 8" 29.3L PU OG Pod as my go to board from tiny to up to well overhead as long as its not barreling too hard it works well and is super responsive both in doing airs and holding the rail in big turns, I absolutely love that board. I surf a 5 9" 29L PU Quiver Killer whenever I am surfing reef or powerful surf up to double overhead and holds well without sacrificing drive. I am trying to find that board that fits in the middle between these 2 boards. I have a 5 9" 29L PU Psycho Killer and it works ok but doesn't seem to have that drive to get around sections, feels a little slow unless there is a decent amount of push. I have tried a lot of CI's (Rubble, Fever, BlacknWhite, #4,) and none fit the bill. Can you give me your opinion. I have been looking at the Uber driver, Voodoo child so far and am open to suggestions. I want that middle board I buy to fit into the family of boards I love to use and work well. I live near Ventura. I surf pretty neutral footed, like to have a fast board but still holds in the turn but not too much where I can't slide the tail out off the top or punt an air.Thanks for your insight

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Jeffrey Bailey NB2!!!!

[@jeffreybailey1518]

just watched your review on the NB2. Rad!!! Couple questions when you have the time. 1)Do you think this board could handle steeper pocket and barrel sections at times? A board that could be ridden on a smaller/medium day at a reef break or punchy beachbreak besides on a typical CA beach day 2) I would get a PU so you recommend the larger fins for a bit larger surf? 3)Random thought/question. The tail trips me out a little (I need to get out of my comfort zone I guess more), I usually order custom from CI, what do you think with this board with a swallow tail. Would it change it up completely? Thanks for all your insight and your quick initial response

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Jeffrey Bailey Yes, the NB2 can hang in some hollow waves. I would go PU for you want to ride it in. I would go Square tail... the gamble to go Swallow tail could be expensive. Just saying

[@surfiving]

I have a question. Do you feel that the Uber Driver is more high performance feeling than The Sampler by CI SUrfboards? I recently purchased The Sampler by CI surfboards and DON'T like it. I found that the board seems to catch rail up on the nose due to lack of rocker. For example, when I go for those initial high line pumps when going backside, it seems to catch. I have always loved The Whip by CI Surfboards and is still my favorite. Can you tell me from experience do you prefer the Uber in quality waves vs the Sampler?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

surfivor Yes the UD is better in that sense... the nose is pulled in a bit more and it might have a little more rocker too.

[@surfiving]

Thanks for the speedy response. You got a friend here in Cabo San Lucas Noel...

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

surfivor Yewww! Cheers

[@gracebingham3281]

surfivor do you think it's because of the hip? I had same problem. I've learned to adapt but when wave is soft I still catch rail

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Grace Bingham Try to surf it more off of your back foot....I didn’t notice that with the Sampler but I am more of s back footed surfer.

[@Undergroundffn]

Sick vid man for a one board quiver you grabbibg the al merrick og flyer or the lost uber driver cheers

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@@Undergroundffn UD

[@mikelee2412]

Great review as always Noel! After a bit of advice if possible. I'm 64kg and currently riding a custom 5'8" 23.5L Sub Buggy which is going really well. It grovels quite well (with effort) but does it's best work with a little more steepness / power (2ft+). I'm considering something with a bit more go in smaller, fatter, less powerful conditions. Have been considering a 5'0" puddle jumper HP, but now after seeing this I'm somewhat torn. Any advise you can offer based on your experience? Cheers and keep up the good work!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Mike Lee The PJHP is epic and paddles really good. I would say the PJHP grovels a little better in 1-2’ surf compared to the UD. I loved the PJHP as a Quad only and the fins need to be upright too. We release this PJHP review next Friday.

[@henriquevert]

Hi Noel… in weak waves of 2 to 3ft, which would be the best choice: Uber Driver or Baby Buggy Squash tail?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

UD would my choice out of these two boards

[@danielgarbesvicente6767]

Hey I have a question. Between Dhd 3dx and Lost uber driver pu, which one es more durability. Or if booth of them are so and so the same durability?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Same durability

[@CharlieCarpioChannel]

Thank you Noel, great review I got a question for you, what's your opinion about a shortboard 5'6 x 20 round pin tale, my question goes about the round pin and I have to say that I like surf small waves.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

charleschannel Stoked you like the review. Not sure I understand your question.... and I am not sure why you would want such a short and wide board with a round pin tail. Does the round pin tail have a point on it at the end or is it just a round or thumb tail?

[@CharlieCarpioChannel]

Surf n Show Reviews Oh it's a round pin. I'm looking for a shorter board cause I feel my surf improving and wider for better paddling, the question es about the tale, because in my opinion, round pin tales are for hollow, steeper and big waves and are not for smaller boards, am I correct?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

charleschannel That is correct... round pin tails are for bigger waves. A Round tail or a thumb tail go good in small waves.

[@desbalance7]

Surf n Show Reviews Thank you so much Noel I've learn that from you

[@leeroy9727]

Hi Noel, Quality review again! Well done! I see on your Instagram page you have a PJ HP. Are you going to be reviewing it? Also what would be really good would be a comparison with the original, fish and round pin. Not full blown reviews of those but a quick comparison like you did with the psycho killer in this one. Keep up the good work!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Lee Roy Yes I have the PJHP and we just started shooting on it. That would be a cool comparison. I would have to get a PJ from almost to do that though. I will see what they say. Cheers

[@leeroy9727]

Surf n Show Reviews Thanks for the quick reply Noel! I appreciate you are probably stacked out with the reviews you have to do but think this would be real useful for a lot of people. Hope HP is going good!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Lee Roy So far so good on the PJHP!!!

[@leeroy9727]

Surf n Show Reviews Sick!!! Looking forward to it!!!

[@patricklin4654]

Hi , Noel. Thanks for the great review again. I'm looking for my next small-medium(1-6ft))wave board. If Lost UD Compare to Psycho killer and HS holy grail,which one will you recommend for beach break? Thank for the review again.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

PATRICK LIN The UD is better compared to PK in 1-3’ surf. I think it would be the UD or the HG for me. I would have to ride them both again in the same size surf to decide but both boards are epic. The HG is a better paddler so in the small stuff the HG will be more user friendly. Cheers

[@noahstone1558]

Hey Noel I’m looking for a daily driver trying to improve my surfing because I’ve realized after surfing groveler all the time I’m struggling when I get on a HPSB when the waves get good which would be a better option ud or sub driver

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Noah Stone UD Is excellent

[@Oshri_sudri]

Great review, tnx. Please show the rail or the concave when you talk it..

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Oshri Sudri Noted...

[@MrKarcell]

Hi Noel great review as usual!! i have read in your comments that the UD can handle surf up to 5’+.....and it could handle 5-7 ft? which is your favorite board in 4-8 ft? i'm looking a board for an indo trip. thank you

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Marcello Goggio The Pyzel Ghost is what I would recommend for your trip. Goes mental and easy to surf for a HP Shortboard.

[@guigui52854]

Hi Noel. Already get UD in 5'9 29,5l as daily driver, on your advice. Great board! Ride with fcs2 performer thruster, i feel a bit limited sometimes when it s weak. do you think JS bullseye can complete it? (Or other suggestion?) Same volume ? Thanks++

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The JS Bullseye doesn’t carry more speed compared to UD. I say you need to consider the Black Vulture 2, Rocket Wide Squash Tail, Mini Ghost Squash, NB2

[@brandonchan3053]

Hi noel, I am stuck between the 6ft monster box hyfi, Uber driver carbón wrap, or Pyzel phantom electralite construction n. Which one do you like better?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Brandon Chan Dang that is a tough decision.... I have not ridden the Phantom yet but I have one coming. To be honest I think the rage on the Phantom and UD will be better 2-6’ surf. The MB is good in 2-5’ beyond that it felt like it was going to slide out.... not enough rocker. So now it’s just two boards you have to choose from.

[@brandonchan3053]

Surf n Show Reviews sounds good Noel! Thanks!. I think I will wait for your phantom review before making the purchase between the Uber driver and Pyzel phantom.. Can’t wait to hear what are your thoughts about the board!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Brandon Chan I can’t wait to get it either. Cheers

[@brandonchan3053]

quick questions about the uber driver Surf n Show team. I am undecided whether to go for the PU or Carbon wrap uber driver. how did you feel the Carbon wrap in the 4-7 foot range? if you only had 1 surfboard would you choose PU or Carbon Wrap?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Brandon Chan I don’t think the UD is the Board I would choose for 4-7’ surf. The UD shines in 1-4’ surf and will go ok in 5’+ surf. If you are going to get the UD and ride more on 3-6’ then for sure go with PU. I recommend the Driver for 3-7’ not the UD. Cheers

[@Meteores7]

So overall it felt better than the pk in smaller waves regarding speed and performance but paddled a bit worse? -Great review as always Noel! Really helpful for every surfer out there! Cheers

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Liam Rodriguez Yes exactly... the PK is a better paddler but the UD out performs the PK in 1-3’ surf with speed and pocket surfing.

[@kaimoylan317]

Hey man, I’m 5’7 and 65kg and was wondering if the 5’5 25CL volume suits ? I’m intermediate or advanced

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Volume for your weight at different skill levels. Pro/Expert 22-24L Advanced 24-26L Intermediate 27-29L If you like your boards ultra responsive then you can go 25-27L. If your upper end intermediate to advanced and you have boards that you like at 25L then go for it. If you are riding more foam and it feels good then stay similar volume on this board

[@kostasgoulas3625]

Great review Noel. What is most appropriate for a low intermediate surfer for 1-4 foot surf. UD lost short round or pukas link? Considering also what board will help me to progress faster. Cheers

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

KOSTAS GOULAS I like the idea of the Short Round.

[@kostasgoulas3625]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks!!!

[@henriquevert]

Hi Noel… my Uber Driver is 5’10 x 19 3/8 x 2 3/8 x 29.7 liters. Which of these Sub Drivers 2.0 do you recommend: 5’11 x 19 3/8 x 2 3/8 x 29.1 liters or 5’10 x 19 5/8 x 2 7/16 x 29.75 liters. I'm 6'0 and 165 lbs.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Go 5’10” 29.75L if your UD feels good.

[@KF10]

Thanks again for the great review Noel! Can you please share how do you feel between the FT and the KA fins, for different wave conditions?

[@sneekinaboutom9450]

Sick man, really good context for the attributes of this board in the waves you've been getting! Ez

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Sneekinabout Om' Cheers glad you liked this review!

[@m00ftak]

Thanks Noel for the great reviews! I'm stuck between an Uber Driver CW or a Pyzel Phantom. I was thinking of getting the Phatom with Electralite to give it a bit more durability since you mentioned you put pressure marks on it relatively easily. I was also considering going for the 5-fin setup after watching your Phantom review. Is it possible to get the UD in 5-fin or is that pointless? Also Thinking 5'9" for both as I'm 6'0 and abt 165 lbs. Which board do you think would better as a daily in avg. So Cal waves? Thanks o much man!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

m00ftak Stoked you like our show! Both boards are sick! The UD will grovel better in 1-3’ surf but the Phantom will be better in. 2-6’+. I think the Electralite sounds good... the durability will be better with a little stronger glass job. The decision is yours.... if you have a good Groveler then I would go Phantom.

[@m00ftak]

Thanks for the quick reply! Super helpful. Think I'm going to go for the Phantom.

[@Julianuribe23]

How's it Noel, I'm rebuilding a quiver and bought a 5'6 Pod Mod for 1-4ft mushy/wonky waves. Would the 5'9 Uber Driver CW compliment it in fun 3-6ft waves or would they overlap a lot? Also planning to add a a round tail shortboard or step up for 6-10ft good waves, so suggestions are more than welcome too! PS: I subscribed to your Patreon and it already changed my surfing game, stoked on it!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Julian Uribe UD will go good. Stoked your surfing is getting better and welcome to the family

[@timosborne8174]

Another great review. 🤙

[@djpipe1]

Hey Noel , I surf fever stock 5’9 ( 25 volume) , that’s the second fever I got . Best board ! I am 5’8 and 150 pounds Will a 5’5 carbon wrap UD ( 25 volume ) will feel home ? Dimensions wise ... Tnx !

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The UD in CW will go good!

[@djpipe1]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 will get one tomorrow ! Thanks for helping me decide

[@TheTotochin]

Great review Noel, keep them coming. I have a question since it seems to be you are very stoked about the Uber Driver. Which board is better for small surf? The Uber Driver or the Rusty Heckler? Thank you.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Federico Chin The UD feels like a hP Shortboard and the Heckler is a small wave Hybrid Groveler. Two completely different surfing styles. The UD will do anything a HP Board will do and Hybrids like the Heckler fly down the line but struggle in the pocket in comparison. You need to decide what type of small wave board you want and kind of lines you want to draw. Cheers

[@TheTotochin]

Surf n Show Reviews, thank you so much for the insight, your explanation makes a lot of sense.

[@ojadvocacia]

PLEASE, WHEN CHOOSING A CARBON WRAP CONSTRUCTION, SHE SHOULD NEED TO TAKE MEASURES LESS THAN NORMAL PU CONSTRUCTION?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Oracio Júnior Maybe 1/2 liter less... so if I like 26 liters on my PU then order EPS at 25.5.

[@richardwadham-smith1631]

Hi Noel. Great reviews as usual. Thinking about trying a carbon wrap or spinetek. I know they float A bit more than a pu. I normally ride my high performance pu boards at around 27 litres so is it best to drop the litres to 26 - 26.5 litres in carbon wrap/spinetek. Many thanks.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Richard Wadham-Smith I usually order the EPS boards roughly the same. I would just order the DIMS you like on a new board and if the liters come out around 26.5 or 26.8 then you will be fine with EPS. The CW and Spine-Tek constructions are epic.

[@richardwadham-smith1631]

Hey Noel. Thanks for reply. Sounds good to me. Also what in your opinion is the best small wave high performance board at the moment for 1-4ft surf. I like a proper shortboard shape as that is all I ride. Cheers again.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Richard Wadham-Smith The best performance Groveler in 1-3’ is the CI Rocket Wide Spinetek. The Lost UD is epic too and it’s good in 1-5’ surf with a HPSB outline.

[@paultarbotton4051]

This model lost is a hard board to surf. It is not a good grovel board, it doesn't like soft waves. It like hollow barrelling waves and even then it still isn't easy to ride. Forget trying to go vertical. I have driver 2.0 as well and it goes really well. I thought the uberdriver would feel more like the driver 2.0 when bought it. The rails on the uberdriver aren't for average waves more for hollow waves.

[@henriquevert]

Hi Noel… Uber Driver and Sub Driver 2.0… are they suitable for the same wave range? I’m in doubt about these two Boards.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

They are suitable to the same wave range. S D 2.0 suits a neutral to front footed surfer better. The UD suits a neutral to back footed surfer better.

[@Hikaru109Ichijyo]

Awesome love your reviews and the detail about them. And the fin selection helps. Are you going to do a review with CI SPine Tek vs Lost's Carbon Wrap? Dude you also surf like a pro, KS style.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Hikaru Ichijyo Alfred Cheers KS is one of my all time favorites for sure. The Spinetek review will be done in the next 4 weeks if not sooner.. I usually don’t compare constructions... I just teach our community about them and how they feel under my feet.

[@noahstone1558]

Hey Noel looking at an Uber driver I’m 5’11/ 150lbs and was wondering how the xl felt compared to standard and I assume the xl goes better in small surf but does it take performance away?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Noah Stone XL has a fuller rail so in bigger surf like 4-5’ it’s a little harder sinking the rail at high speed compared to the UD.

[@jonathanread7393]

Hi Noel, I'm looking to buy a new board and I'm deciding between the eps uber driver or the pu I really want a board that can handle barrels and larger waves but one that can also do alright in the smaller waves with turns, and strength is pretty important as well to me; which board would you recommend is it worth getting the eps board and sacrificing some of its capability on the larger waves or do you reckon it would be able to handle it alright? Thanks a lot I found this very helpful

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Jono Read I would not get the UD for bigger hollow waves. I would get the Lost Driver in PU for the waves you describe. The Driver goes good in 2-3’ surf and 4-6’ surf.

[@jonathanread7393]

thanks a lot that is perfect, cheers

[@whateverfourever]

Hi Noel! Huge fan of the show!!! Im looking for a daily surfboard to be below my beloved ghost! I gain a bit of weight due to injury, so paddling easy is important for the next months, for chest to head high punchy portuguese beach breaks uber driver or og flyer?

[@rippert5917]

Noel, thanks for putting this up on my birthday. Always ripping! I know you're going to do a volume vlog but here's my question. I'm exactly the same size as you but I'm 56. My baby buggy PU is 5'9" 30L for 2-6ft. I'm thinking of getting the UD in 5'8" stock Carbon Wrap for 1-4ft What do you think about going down to 28L? Still trying to improve with age.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

rippert 2 liters is a lot... even though you are going EPS. It will work but you are going to work harder in paddling.

[@rippert5917]

Thanks Noel! Really enjoy the reviews listen all the time. I think I'll stick with 30L , it works for me and our local waves are usually mushy and weak.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

rippert Good call

[@miguelpestana9600]

Hi Noel, great review, surf and video.Thinking os buying a UD for knee to head surf beachbreaks in Portugal.What would you choose between UD, Ci OG, and Phantom. keep up the good work Thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Miguel Pestana I think the UD will work best in small waves for the boards you compared it too.

[@jacobshemer8340]

hi noel. love your show witch of the board's have more rocker . the UB. or the psycho killer thanks a lot for the help :)

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

jacob shemer It feels like the PK has more rocker

[@thiagobona8978]

Hello Noel Salas. What`s board is more lighter? PU (pro-formance series) or EPS carbon wrap? Thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Thiago Bona Good question... not sure. I would have to weigh a couple. They seem to be real close... I have no facts here but they feel like weigh around 5lbs

[@thiagobona8978]

Thanks for the answer. If one day you are going to weigh them, share with us the result 😉

[@RBNK157]

Out of curiosity how do you compare this to the rocket wide and how do you compare the carbon-wrap to spine tek

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Great comparison... the UD offers a bit more performance and goes better in 3-6’ surf. The RW paddles better and offers a little more speed. SpineTek is a bit stiffer.... so it offers more pop and better consistency in flex especially when your front foot is not in the sweet spot. Sometimes I feel like the CW tech flex’s too much and when my front foot is not on the sweet spot and it’s not very forgiving

[@RBNK157]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 great answer as well brother!

[@stevenpress2525]

hi noel. Im looking at the psycho killer and the UD. you said in the review if you want more paddle power go the PK but only 2 - 6 foot waves. Where i surf we only getting 1 - 4 foot waves i still want help with my paddle power does the UD still offer this or should i be looking at something else?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Steven Press I say go PJHP for 1-4’ surf...

[@ryantherock7664]

Hey Noel,this or the ci rocket wide for 1 to 4 ft grovelling?thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Ryan The Rock Both boards are epic. I say RW 1-3’ Spinetek and if your looking for the 1-4’+ then go UD. The RW struggles in 4’+ in my book. The UD can hang 1-5’ no problem

[@HARED1818]

You mentioned looking at Large fins even if your 150-160lbs? Why is that?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Check out my fin designs here. You will understand why I like a Large fin base. surfnshow.com/products/surf-n-show-neutral-thruster-set

[@peacepuffz]

Great review again.

[@awelldressedape3419]

compared to sub driver 2.0? have a sub but looking into the uber as well, from a visual standpoint it doesn't look as good under you feet as the sub did

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The Sub 2.0 seems to suit neutral/ front footed surfers better. The UD is better for neutral \ back footed surfers. You can drive the UD off the tail. They both need waves with a bit of push… I prefer the UD.

[@d2chiro]

Hey Noel, love the surfing as always! Just wondering how you can surf such low volume for small waves? I’m the same weight as you but surf 27 liters for chest to double over head waves, and around 31 litres for my small wave board. Although I am surfing Irish waves, which are usually lower period (12 to 14 seconds). Are you just very experienced and able to surf lower volume or are the waves more prefect out there and you can reduce volume?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

David Sweeney I think my low volume Grovelers are little bit of both.... fun waves that have a little push and my skill level. I surfed on the QS in the 90’s... so I am accustomed to riding boards that are super sensitive to my surfing. If I surfed a mushier wave then I would probably go up in volume maybe 1-2 liters max. So 27-28 liters but the board would have to be a hybrid of some sort and super short too. If I add the volume then it needs to be shorter so it turns like a skateboard but has the drive, projection, and flow I am looking for. Boards that have too much volume feel sluggish and hard to turn quickly. A board with perfect volume responds to my thoughts and a board with excess volume feels like a delayed reaction in my efforts to do the maneuver. I hope this makes sense.

[@d2chiro]

Yeah absolutely. I think you have me sold on the Uber driver, just hard to decide what volume to go for now. I think I will add 2 litres, so go to 29L. Thanks for the help :)

[@wozza77able]

Mate u’ve tested the Uber Driver and the Baby Buggy,which do prefer as a daily driver? And do you think either of these boards could handle a five plug setup?

[@wozza77able]

Sorry a five plug setup

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

wozza77able Both boards are epic... the B.B. can handle a little more surf but the UD can grovel better. Not sure I would put a 5 fin set up in either but if your a big time Quad guy then the UD would probably be better.

[@wozza77able]

Cheers Noel thanx for getting back to me so quickly as well.

[@miguellima7987]

Hi Noel, how does the Uber driver you tested compares to the updated version?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I only tested the UDXL compared to the first model. The UDXL is faster and easier to surf.

[@miguellima7987]

Ok, thanks I see a sub driver 2.0 lightspeed review is coming, so I ll wait for that to make my decision ;)

[@kallesandstrom3848]

Hi and thanks for a great review! I just order a Uber Driver 5.9 with a future fin set up. What fins do you recommend as a good allrounder for mostly mushy weak waves? I'm at 150 lbs right know, 178 cm with a thick wetsuit.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Kalle Sandström Beachbreak or Point breaks?

[@kallesandstrom3848]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 mostly Point breaks, I live and surf mostly in Scandinavia (Norway, Sweden) so the waves are under average. A standard day is waist to shoulder mushy and with some onshore. And thanks for taking your time answering!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Kalle Sandström Futures I recommend Jack Freestone Generation size Large. FCSII I recommend the Kolohe Andino PC Large. Mushy waves use Large fins and if the board feels tight use a Medium Center fin.

[@kallesandstrom3848]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks alot for your help! Nice that you taking your time!

[@kallesandstrom3848]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 Hi again, the only Large future fins I found in my local surfshop is Ando Blackstix 3.0 Large, would that be a good option for smaller days? Never surfed L fins with my 70 kg but I see the point of getting the drive out of it. Cheers!

[@orentt90]

Hi Noel, im looking into buying one, would you say that board will hold on a big bigger surf, 5 to maybe 6 feet?

[@dan1e1473]

Hi Noel, have you tried the Medina's fins on this board? They seem pretty similar to the performers and are also PCC so they might work.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

daniel vb I have the Medina fins but I did not try them on this board. I have used them before and they feel a bit stiff.... I will try them gain on my next board review with FCS plugs.

[@dan1e1473]

Are they stiffer than the performers in carbon?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

daniel vb They felt a little stiffer.... it could be the template.

[@Ronny439]

UD vs Air 17x ? Ripping mate too!!!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Ronny439 Air17X is more high performance... I think a better comparison is the Sub Driver VS Air17X. These Two boards are WQS small wave weapons. The UD is sick but not a radical from turn to turn compared to the Sub Driver and Air17X. The UD is a bit more user friendly compared to the other two. Cheers

[@dasright1905]

Noel do one on the quiver killer 🤙

[@leandrodias2050]

How would you compare the Uber driver to the Puddle Jumper HP? They seem to have a similar outline, and rocker. Which would you consider the best from knee to head high or even overhead when it's kind of mushy?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Leandro Dias The UD has more of a small wave performance outline and the PJHP has a super wide tail. The PJHP goes good in 1-3’ surf and the UD goes good in 1-6’ surf. The width on PJHP carry’s a little more down the line speed in 1-2’ mush but the UD our performs the PJHP in the pocket.

[@leandrodias2050]

Surf n Show Reviews Thanks for the reply. I've been thinking about getting the Uber Driver at 5'8 19' 2.38' at 28l, I'm a 5'8 intermediate surfer at 155 - 160 lbs. I only have one board, a shortboard which is 6'2 18 3/8 2 3/16 at 25.5 or 26 l, it works great when the waves get overhead + or about chest high + with at least some push to them, but when they get mushy I'm always fighting to maintain speed. That is why I'm looking for something with more volume that can still perform. The only thing I'm unsure is the thickness, should I go with the stock dims at 2.38' or maybe a custom at 2.35' or 2.36' so I can still manage it in a bit bigger waves? As you can see my current board is very thin, but I'm very interested in a board that sits higher on the water. Since I live in Central FL I wouldn't mind the 2.38' UD as long as it doesn't feel like I'm surfing a floaty. Thanks for the reviews! They really help "regular" surfers know how different boards feel, since most of us don't have the stacks to buy them.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Leandro Dias I think the 5’9” at 29 Liters will work better for small mushy surf on the East Coast. The 5’9” is going to feel like a skateboard compared to your 6’2”. Maybe you should try a demo board that is 5’8” or 5’9” with similar outline and see how it floats and feels under your feet before you pull the trigger on a purchase.

[@leandrodias2050]

Surf n Show Reviews You guys are fast! Thanks for the advice! I'll be sure to try a couple boards before ordering anything.

[@leandrodias2050]

Surf n Show Reviews Thanks again. I'm trying to get the UD as a daily board that can still hold when it gets a bit bigger, in that case how thick do you think a good all-round board should be regarding my weight?

[@alexeyvoko]

Hey Joel love your reviews! How would you compare this board vs JS Nitro? Thanks!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Alexey Volochenko This UD is way more high performance and go in 1-6’ very well. The Nitro is epic in 1-3+ but cannot handle bigger surf. It’s a true Groveler.

[@thompsonross85]

I have the psycho killer which is an awesome board. Is there enough difference between this and the Uber driver to have the Uber as a groveller in 1-4 and psycho killer in 3-6?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Yes that’s a good two board quiver... I would go UDXL

[@russellpizel3750]

I have 2 uber-drivers - PU and EPS - I personally wouldn't call them pure grovellers. They still need a bit of energy to perform - 2 feet+, ima. The UDXL may grovel better.

[@beno431]

Cracking review as always mate. In your opinion what has more down the line speed and grovel ability the OG flyer or the Uber. demoed an Uber for last couple of weeks and LOVED it but found it does have a lower end limit.

[@beno431]

Should say demoed a flyer

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

ben clarke The UD grovels better! Try some different fins for better groveling.

[@tommyarmstrong7618]

Hi Noel, outstanding review as always! Quick question... How would you compare the Lost UD vs the Superbrand Unit? Thanks in advance! Cheers!!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Tommy Armstrong Sorry, I have not ridden that board from Super.

[@kevinhorstmann6351]

ur so lucky u can go to trestles at its always so nice in san diego its always like 1-2 onshore when we get 3-4 were all like its firing

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Shredder 343 Sorey to hear that... I am super blessed to live in OC and surf one of the best waves in the world!!

[@markdoble5199]

Hey Noel, another great review. Have you surfed the Uber Driver with a twin plus trailer set up?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

mark doble No I did not try it... maybe you can and give us all some feedback. Cheers

[@jayveethreefive5214]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 very late to the party but I’ve been riding my UD with AM 2+1 for a year now and it’s unreal, although mine is custom swallow so has bit more hold than standard squash

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@jayveethreefive5214 Epic

[@Diogloy]

Hey Noel, I have a Slater Design Sci Fi and a HS Hypto Krypto . I really think the Sci Fi it's an amazing board but I don't really like the HK and gonna sell it ! I would like to know if it's a good choice to buy the Uber Driver because I have the Sci Fi and looks a bit like the same type of board! Not the shape of it but the conditions, I hope you can give me some advice ! I want the PU board ! Hope you will reply and help me ! Cheers

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

ZymbaEffects I really like the UD and is for the same wave range as The SciFi. Getting the UD in PU will be good for surf in 2-5’ range.

[@Diogloy]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks for the fast reply! I would like to have a board that can be surfed till 2m but I don't want something that needs pro skills. Do you know some boards for that ? The CI Fever looks great !

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

ZymbaEffects Phantom, Fever, Driver, Holy Grail.

[@Diogloy]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 Ok thanks mate!

[@javier5766]

amazing review! what do you think about the Uber Driver in Round ? Thanks!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

That could go good.... it would offer a bit more hold too

[@peterball2855]

How does it compare to the sampler? Appreciate your time and effort. Ripping as always

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Peter Ball These two boards have similar small wave get up and go speed but the UD can handle bigger waves because of the tail rocker and concaves. The Sampler is good in 1-3+ max at 4’ surf and the UD can handle 1-6’ surf. The UD is a great daily Driver and has a better wave range.

[@Undergroundffn]

Lost uber driver or happy everyday for daily driver one board quiver?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@Undergroundffn H Eday… has a better upper end wave range. Both are epic