Why Meghan Markle's Archetypes Podcast Was Always Doomed To Fail

[@jewelt8294]

Her podcast flopped because she always talked about I,me and myself.. Who can stand that nonsense

[@R.Omar82]

Serena : my daughter broke her arm and I had to continue with the tournament. Meghan : my son's room in a housing unit in south Africa was set on fire and I had to continue with the royal tour. Serena : you didn't tell me that! Meg : 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

[@angelasims2759]

but she didnt say anything interesting about herself. it has shown them to be lying entitled morons. it has also shown the nasty side of others, oprah and gayle. and tyler perry sneerd and refused to take part in a baptism in the uk. so what poison have harry and wife told them, im sure it was even nastier than the rubbish they have spewed out to the public.

[@sheilajones9941]

And the constant one up manship!!

[@dorijohnson9266]

I'm sure she was just letting us know what her pronouns were!

[@katherinemartin3591]

Thank you for your spot on analysis of yet another MM flopped project. This is a great example of a project review on someone who has zero work ethic from someone who has an amazing work ethic!

[@katehack1677]

It's insane how much time Harry and Meghan wasted while podcasts were in peak demand. I can see Spotify screaming after 18 months "You need to put something out now!!! Lockdowns are ending! You have wasted a unique opportunity!" And then to release the most self indulgent, self absorbed podcast ever. Also it's obvious that she never intended to include Harry - even though that's what Spotify wanted.

[@i.am.heather]

They would have had a plethora of listeners from each generation. It shouldn’t have taken 18 months to deliver a podcast. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@mareandickson3058]

Much like Dior only wanted to sign up Harry...🤔

[@lefroy1]

I love LBP's take on these two more than any other, but Spotify deserved exactly what they got hiring these donkeys. The writing was very much on the wall about their shortcomings long before any contracts were drawn up.

[@annyoung6560]

She isn’t wise enough to see how people see her. She can’t even pretend to care about anyone other than herself.

[@nickstone3113]

Well as to including him , give the lady some credit ,she ain't that dim ,😂😢😅

[@janwilliams1781]

I’m not an entertainment executive but even I knew they brought nothing to the table. Nothing to offer and devoid of talent.

[@i.am.heather]

Sure they did! The times that they showed up, they brought their egos.

[@iainl9725]

My girlfriend was at least expecting some quality gossip. After 20 minutes of the Serena Williams episode she yelled, "Wtf am I listening to??!!" and turned it off.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

Totally agree. There's a reason people like Joe Rogan have enjoyed the spectacular success they have; they have personality and work hard at this podcast game. Joe was always flying by the seat of his pants, just being himself. When you actually have a great personality and are intellectually curious about the people you're talking to, it makes for a thoroughly engaging podcast interview. Joe could interview the astrophysicists and make them laugh, get their best stories out of them to dazzle and educate the listener. He's equally capable to inviting the local bin men into the studio and proceeding to get a great 2 hours of content from THEM...crying, laughing, talking about their childhood, workplace injustices, neighbourhood observations about humanity, theories about what to do about the environmental issues and so forth. Ribaldry, crude colloquialisms, politically controversial opinions-- he'd allow it all, no judgement, much laughter and honesty. He's always been very relaxed about free speech and letting people just express themselves as they wish, no censorship or uptight obsession with how he's coming across, his 'image and brand' (which M and H are completely fixated upon). There was NO WAY Harry and Meghan with their grotesquely over-produced, uptight corporate exercises in podcasting could EVER have pulled off what a gonzo force of nature like Rogan has. It's not just hard work, it's the type of personalities involved. Your comment nailed it.

[@Susan-vl8ts]

@@iainl9725 Serena was talking about the traumatic time her daughter fell out of her highchair and broke her arm, and she had to take her to the hospital getting one hour of sleep before a Grand Slam match? And Meghan could not wait to tell the fabricated story of Archie's room going on fire. Can't believe that Serena is her friend.

[@zoobee]

the story of Markle and Harry is a morality tale. About how hubris, lies, abuse and mendacity ultimately destroy those who practise them. A character study of a trashcan Lady Macbeth. A pair of spitting hissing clowns and fools. And a study in Karma that will become iconic across time.

[@jennyfairbairn2525]

Bravo - a brilliant comment zoobee! 🤩

[@catherineannelockman3805]

Well said...

[@iggle6448]

" A trashcan Lady Macbeth" !! 👏👏👏

[@PatriciaG20]

Very well said ❤

[@user-vi7ef9yc5q]

Read to 'morality tale' you just know its Shakespearean. I don't think its a tragedy though. People believing them would have been the tragedy

[@susisusanne2876]

🔴 Archetypes was only a PR podcast for Nutmeg fighting all the criticsm she got from the public. 😂

[@edelineambas7473]

Spotify was hoodwinked.

[@annephillips8494]

And from TBower and Valentine Lowe.

[@iggle6448]

@@annephillips8494 ...and the Sausages Survivors Club?! I wonder how they're doing now....

[@PatriciaG20]

I agree. She had a vendetta and thirst for setting the record straight. This is why the podcast was a flop even before the first episode aired.

[@engenulf]

Agree, and all she did was prove the public right!

[@jadefire2817]

For $20 million dollars!? I'd have put out so much content they'd have no idea what to even do with all of it. The arrogance of the Montecito Duo is mind-boggling.

[@christinehall6441]

More like their stupidity is awe inspiring. 😮

[@GradKat]

Right! I’d be working round the clock to justify that budget. Wouldn’t any sensible person?

[@rhondacrosswhite8048]

You and me both. I’d even be tempted to bend and almost break any rules for even a portion of what the Detestable Duo was paid.

[@LG-nb5ur]

And I would have done the same for half as much

[@kaysha]

All these culprits have been given way too much power. False victimhood was at an all time high in 2021

[@jdog2345]

Yes and still is unfortunately

[@kaysha]

@@jdog2345 The party is almost over

[@alp7928]

​@@kayshaI hope so

[@alp7928]

Definitely

[@animula6908]

Yeah, it’s been good to see the tide begin to turn

[@daveworthing]

Never have two people, both completely devoid of any sort of talent, earned so much money for doing so little.

[@madmelwood3778]

❤❤❤

[@exaudi33]

You've made me hear Sir Winston's inimitable voice! Can you imagine how brilliantly he would have dismissed those two grifters? Game, set, match.

[@rosemimi973]

The Kardashians and Paris Hilton come to mind. No talent, instead they are famous for being famous.

[@SNOW.STORM30]

This podcast was a way for Meghan to do what she loves best, networking with major celebrities. How do you take MILLIONS of someones money then use their platform to network and air petty grievances? No wonder Spotify was so mad.

[@GradKat]

Yes, she just wants the spotlight, and seems to think she can have this without doing any work.

[@wendyhendersong]

It was also a way for doing the other thing she loves. Talk about herself. And base her podcasts on every name she’d ever been called. Then justify her past actions based on those names/ labels.

[@karinmorley7092]

I swear Megain worships money. She think money will give her everything she wants,without the work. Peasants work. Royalty does not.

[@Susan-vl8ts]

Remember her story of how she had to plan her wedding as an assignment? She was so overly dramatic in telling that story which was so unimportant or exciting.

[@SNOW.STORM30]

@@Susan-vl8ts That story was so pointless and actually showed her ignorance. She went to a Catholic school and marriage is one of the seven sacraments, so it was part of their teachings since it was a Catholic school. If you went to Jewish school or Islamic school, you would learn similar teachings from those religions.

[@lucialowry1904]

Meghan is one of the poster children for Mark Twain’s quote “it’s far better to keep your mouth shut and allow others to think you’re stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt” It applies equally to Harry too.

[@leahmollytheblindcatnordee3586]

That's good. He could say things very well couldn't he.

[@WabbitHunter68]

One of the few positive things you can say about narcissists is that more often than not they are the authors of their own downfall.

[@cherysantos228]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@theresawarren4849]

She tries her hand at everything; bookwriting, acting, podcasting, documentaries, she is so overawed at her own talent. In reality, everything she tries seems so diluted and amateur.

[@karinmorley7092]

It is dilluted because she doesn't care. Anyone who practices a creative art has to practice daily in order to get better. Megain doesn't appear to be improving at anything since she popped on the scene. Same hair, same smile- no bangs, ever? No layers?? No hair dye??? Like everything else with her, calculated, not new, not now, not original, not imaginative.

[@katemcdonald5897]

Don't forget her own version of calligraphy!

[@Sparkle345jk]

All plagiarised..

[@berryrl9]

Because she did it for the wrong reason - publicity, want to deceive people into thinking she's an innocent Angel, and money money money

[@madmelwood3778]

Or copied from another person work

[@susanbrown5004]

Spotify is completely to blame for this debacle. Spotify, foolishly, literally threw money at them, up front, and did not seek any accountability. I think who ever put this crazy deal together should be fired and shunned not the marckles. Moreover, Netflix better watch their step. Their content lately is awful. Put the marckles into the mix and I'm out.

[@julia-nc6ox]

Yes but in a way it's the Palace's fault. They really were able to PR The Hazbeen Prince into something he clearly wasn't.

[@karinmorley7092]

I think Spotify thought- it doesn't take a rocket scientist to do a podcast. They weren't looking to m and jh for stellar content but likely figured the duo could speak and that is a large part of the gig. In other words, Spotify assumed they couldn't mess it up as it was dummy proof. They had fame, an audience- the other necessary part. All they had to do was show up as themselves and they could not swing it. A podcast with an actual Megain and JH, talking, sharing, as much as I would never have listened to it, it doesn't sound horrid. But no, it had to be an 80's version of women's victimhood. I believe Megain wants to be Carrie Bradshaw.

[@waipocock5767]

The Spotify person who signed them up was fired, as for the Palace making sure the idiot Prince was given good PR also included the public who always forgave the idiot because they remember as a 12 year old walking behind his mother's coffin, don't just blame the Palace, public opinion was also to blame, journalist were to blame because no one was willing to get pass the 12 year old picture and didn't allow the idiot to grow up and take responsibility. Idiot prince used emotional blackmail to get what he wanted andas far as I'm concerned he doesn't want to get well because it's his bargaining tool, I'm beginning to actually doubt that his mental health is that bad. I have a daughter with his polar. So yes I've experienced quite a bit.

[@kathybutterfield2760]

It astounds, the interest in them. They really are unremarkable. Guess it's just the royal connection and controversy, false drama.

[@MyHam-os4bq]

They were fairly popular at the time Spotify made the deal so it’s not unthinkable that they thought it would be a good idea. And like some others have said, a podcast is a relatively easy thing to make. I don’t think anyone anticipated they would just…..choose not to work at all lol. Although that’s pretty obvious now

[@PopGoesTheology]

And the only lasting legacy for Meghan is that the whole world will remember how she used the word ARCHETYPES without even looking it up on Google to see what it means...

[@southbug27]

Yes. If I were Spotify, I'd publicly gift them a dictionary, thesaurus, & Carl Jung books.

[@trishabens6357]

💯 agree, there was so much wrong with it. How the ..... did Spotify ALLOW THIS BS TO CONTINUE, let alone the manipulations on how the podcasts SCORED on their dashboard.

[@AlexaMakeup29]

I think she used it because of her "son" Archie (Arch) you see the conection? Just as the Archwell Foundation they created... Using their son's name to make a profit

[@trishabens6357]

@@AlexaMakeup29 it was always about putting thru the FRONT of charity, but going directly into their own pockets. These 2 are such LIARS, CROOKS, GRIFTERS. 😈

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

They both tried to copyright the word for commercial/branding purposes and their application failed. I'm certain they'll try again. They are hooked on this word which so far neither of them have demonstrated an intellectual grasp on.

[@derek.....]

“People who create their own drama, deserve their own karma!”

[@Rickolsen247]

And Karma will come for us all!

[@savannahgary6351]

@derek! 😂🤣😂🤣

[@thecrazyenglishcatladyfive7276]

@derek. Hi Derek, where have you been 🙃🙃🐾🐾🐾

[@Rickolsen247]

On Twitter!!🤣🤣🤣

[@wailupewahine]

Do you remember last year the brouhaha surrounding Joe Rogan’s podcast, where several musicians withdrew from Spotify citing Rogan’s spreading of Covid misinformation? Markle, who at that point had only produced the dumb holiday podcast, released a self righteous statement about how she and Harry had spoken to Spotify about this issue but had decided to continue with their contract in hopes Spotify would rectify the spread of misinformation. It’s a perfect example of MM’s approach to those much greater than herself, which she started in the Palace. She was going to modernize the monarchy, she elevated herself above QE2, she advised KC3 of unconscious bias in the royal family, etc. Her hubris is staggering. So Joe Rogan continues his top podcast, the royal family moves from strength to strength and the arbiter of all wisdom is out in the cold.

[@aggiet888]

Ironically both Harry and Meghan are the biggest proponents of misinformation and disinformation. And I mean IRONICALLY as Harry sits on the Aspen board. Their aim is more in line with censorship.

[@carollynnberwindscheffler398]

Wow! So we'll put!!!

[@madmelwood3778]

❤❤❤

[@GMLGMD]

@@madmelwood3778 Well said!

[@maryallison5929]

She thought she had the power to get Joe fired.

[@patriciapepe3013]

Meg uses what she believes is her privilege to do as little as possible while reaping as much as she can get - both in attention and financial gain. She is deluded in thinking that the title of Duchess comes with the entitlement of delegating others to do her leg work while she sits back and enjoys the benefit of a big pay day. Shame on those producers for even going along with her scheme.

[@tammibasso558]

Unfortunately the producers probably went along with it because they really needed a job. It appears they were taken advantage of by you know who

[@judithmariabradley5603]

She lives in her imagination. 🙃🙃🙃

[@nonosays]

It was apparent in the episodes I heard that the guest was nothing more than a ruse, an anchor to give Meghan an excuse to sound off on something in her own experience that she considered unfair. She sounded like she didn't know or care to know the guest or the audience. She was in love with the sound of her own voice. Fake pleasantries and giggles aside, she wasn't interested in anything or anybody else, and nobody could believe it when she would describe them as "my dear friend". Most importantly, the central conceit was flawed: An archetype is an underlying image or identity that embodies a human reality. A stereotype is an accepted prejudice about something that has grown up over time. Her show was about female stereotypes, but it didn't really even explore that. It was about Meghan, the new Queen Of The Universe.

[@MrMmcdaid9]

OMG! She'll be dishing out the Duchies soon, too, universally!

[@sharoncole8249]

I feel so sorry for the people who lost there Jobs .😢😢

[@margoumbach5824]

Basically Spotify was greedy and they got Markled I have no sympathy for them at all!!!

[@alexilupin]

I'm a champion procrastinator so I can't rule out that maybe I would not have produced a podcast. But then I would also not expect to be paid or given continued use of resources.

[@aab8429]

Presumably you also would not have a team of 40 plus people helping you with it

[@sophiamav]

If you are a procrastinator, chances are that you not doing the work comes from a place of high stress and anxiety. This is completely different to her expectations and demand of getting all the money in a grifty way. You are not the same and I am saying this in your favour

[@StandAsYouAre]

If I got offered $20 million dollars, I would have made sure to work on multiple projects before that to ensure I am confident in myself that I know what I am doing.

[@iggle6448]

Well, that shows your intelligence and good sense!👏👏👏 The Sausages have neither. Stick a fork in them, they're done!😆

[@angelasims2759]

the thing is they hired the best people, almost all they had to do was turn up and suggest a couple of average ideas and the professionals could have worked their magic.

[@asise5722]

Megaliar’s plan was to make millions off her new name…you know, her ‘brand’. She thought she could sit back and enjoy the glory and millions for doing nothing but marrying a prince.

[@iggle6448]

@@asise5722 I'm sure you're right...but what sort of person gets to nearly 40 and expects the world to worship her for marrying a spare royal !? Only someone utterly lost in total delusion ?

[@2829hrcnc]

I think that M & H will never learn the “hard way”, will never have a “rude awakening”, will never see that they act “entitled”, will never believe that they don’t have a “work ethic”, and will never see that their behavior has caused them to fail. They live in a cocoon of their own minds where they will be successful if only others will get out of their way. They are victims and cannot understand why nobody else sees the injustice bestowed upon them. She is a narcissist and he’s onboard for the ride.

[@jessiebassil7887]

I may be wrong, I may be in the wrong demographic but I don’t think I have ever been held back because I am a woman. I am 60 and have lived on three continents (South Africa, United Kingdom and Canada) in my life. I have yet to be held back because I am a woman. Perhaps I don’t fit into any of the stereotypes that MeMe covered because I was prepared to listen and learn.

[@engenulf]

Me too, I'm 61 and always got any promotion I wanted due to hard work. I have never once felt "held back" because I am female.

[@asise5722]

Exactly. Meghan’s plan to discuss women being held back was done 30-40 years ago. It is not a current problem for women. It was a problem for her because she has no talent…

[@cazfloss1990]

I’m not sure how Serena Williams or Mariah Carey were held back. That woman is a professional victim!

[@GradKat]

@@cazfloss1990Those gals are highly talented and they WORK. Two things Meg knows nothing about.

[@GradKat]

@@asise5722 Right. She is actually a very dated stereotype herself; the woman who achieves fame and wealth simply through marriage.

[@Digmer]

Crazy enough, a podcast with harry would be a shitshow but an entertaining one cause he would say the most stupid, out of touch and creepy stuff.

[@GradKat]

He wanted to talk to the likes of Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump about “childhood influences”. I mean, honestly 🙄

[@Susan-vl8ts]

'We have all felt battered', 'we are experiencing a human global humanitarian crisis', 'misinformation is our greatest threat'... yada yada yada. Depressing.

[@PoetLoui]

Oh i would pay GOOD money to see Trump or Putin make Harry's last remaining brain cell leap out of his left ear in fear! Good Times. 😂

[@tatiana9762]

so true!

[@user-pt1ow8hx5l]

Harry is a good guy,...... Loved for all his faults too. Prior to all this,......

[@laurieboyles474]

I totally agree. That podcast wasn't about anything other than meghan trying to vilify those she felt had wronged her, and doing it on a global platform.

[@homersmom]

I am so sorry you had to listen to every podcast… I couldn’t make it through five minutes of the first episode! Kudos and a huge thank you!!

[@annyoung6560]

I couldn’t listen to her. She is grating on people’s nerves.

[@kaymandy1]

I tried to give it a chance too, and I couldn't

[@bonnie_gail]

the sound of Harry's wife babbling makes me nauseous

[@luckym8671]

She actually said she couldn’t wait to be unfiltered! That’s laughable. Yeah I couldn’t listen to an entire episode.

[@lasenoradelacruz]

I won’t lie, it makes me bitter. Everything I’ve had to earn for myself, I work hard and save money for every project I make, because I have no sponsors or millionaire contract. Imagine having everything handed to you in a silver platter only to fail so miserably because of your own inability for self awareness 🙄

[@MrMmcdaid9]

The Silver Platter is of no good to me whatsoever, if I can't even get a tune out of it - Bang-a-gong, girl [no sense of rhythm required].

[@tammibasso558]

Laziness in addition to a lack of self awareness!!

[@two-toned9645]

I love the fact that she said something along the lines of, "I want people to get to know the real me". Isn't the podcast about her GUESTS? And we did see the real her. It's all about her. Clearly.

[@hellpoint7534]

She didnt actually give a voice to the voiceless. In her usual thin skinned way, she used celebrities as examples of names that she had been called as a way to rebut negative criticism. She didn't have any interest or curiosity about their stories. Interviewing is a skill she does not have as it requires curiosity and the ability to listen and stray from your own dogmatic views..

[@gemqueen1866]

And...allegedly, she wants to be a chat show host! What a 🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mojo500100]

@@TaurusMoon-hu3pdthat’s a fantastic idea, it’d make a great SNL skit. What a bleeding shame they’re losing so much time from the writers’ strike.

[@yapira3960]

Content creators do a ton of work because they actually have something to say, and know how to respond to an audience. There is the writing, the editing, the filming, more editing, lighting, etc. M and H were given all the assistance, and NADA. M and H are empty vessels. They do not know their audience and do not care, and want to shove their whine on them. Remember when people were famous for having a talent? Nowadays, some cheap duchess who thinks the rest of the world has to place her on a pedestal, has the impression that we want to hear her ego focused diary entries.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

Such an excellent, hugely observant comment. Your brutal final assessment was spot on: they're empty vessels. All the external support, all the smoke'n'mirrors', all the distracting tinsel mountains you can throw around them can't make profoundly ordinary personalities and generic intellects interesting.

[@iamneverwrong6635]

All of the phrases, cultural references and platitudes that she would espouse on that podcast were all circa the 1999-2004 era -those are the years she graduated from high school and entered into and did most of her study at university …..you can tell she was just regurgitating all of the ultraliberal nonsense that her professors at Northwestern were spewing. All of her references were from before she even turned 23 years old. The woman never matured intellectually past about 16 to 18 years old and she never formed a thoughtful opinion on anything other than how she “feels” about things.

[@paddyo3841]

Should have called her show “NARCTYPES”

[@patshartigan5100]

😂😂

[@izzaduck8896]

Thanks for all your hard work, Pluto (and Zac)! Your content is always thought provoking and/or entertaining, and much appreciated too.

[@jjr1728]

Zac don't even lift

[@deborah5763]

Excellent commentary! Spot on! I bet Spotify is kicking itself for throwing that $20 million away! Meghan is her favorite subject!! Nothing else matters.

[@R.Omar82]

Meg's failure will be blamed on Spotify , remember how they didn't bend to her demands to get Joe Rogan kicked out ? And as we all know by now she holds grudges , so expect meghan giving an interview some time in the future about " toxic work environment " and how her time at spotify made her feel and how horrible it was for her as a young mum with two small kids and an unhinged hubby .

[@madmelwood3778]

Yep

[@jaygatsby2790]

Her entire podcast was a score-settling exercise against the Royal Family, Deal Or No Deal who reportedly fired her because she was acting inappropriately towards the host, the shows that didn't hire her, etcetera. Glad Spotify was Markled and it created a huge backlash against Meghan. She's an evil, malicious, entitled, vengeful, cruel and UNGRATEFUL bitch who deserves nothing but a life of misery.

[@pianomanhere]

Before naming a podcast "Archetypes," she should have read some of Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung's works. By doing so, she would have realized the misnomer she employed. The podcast should have been called "Stereotypes." Then again I never expected her to know the difference among archetype, stereotype, teletype and linotype.

[@jojofyrefyre8432]

🤣

[@mandymckeown8625]

😂😂😂

[@madmelwood3778]

😂😂😂

[@Rachopin77]

All the things that meghan has to say about feminism feel old and stale and hopelessly vapid. I also find it weird for her to be talking about stereotypes holding women back and then basically reaching out to powerful, successful women to talk about the stereotypes SHE had ascribed to them. Like if someone reached out to me to talk about how I get called an "angry black woman" I'd be like ma'am you're the one calling me that. Can I talk about my life's work?

[@madmelwood3778]

❤❤❤

[@annecarr3711]

I was born in 1949 in Britain. My mum was a housewife. My dad wanted both my brother and I to do well in education and life, though he was old fashioned. We both attended the same grammar school, and had equal opportunities. I was more academic but my brother was practical. I misused all my chances, just having fun, no ambition, bit of a dreamer He failed exams, had ambition and worked hard No one ever stood in my way just because I am female, and I made all my own choices in life. My brother is now a millionaire solely through his own hard work, I am not! He was my spare born in 1951, has helped me many times over the years. Our parents treated us equally but our different status now is all down to our own personality and hard work or lack of it. That's how life goes.

[@brindhasiva75]

Iron is cheaper than gold.but we can't make things in gold which can/should be done with iron...everybody have their own values. Be happy❤

[@Wanda711]

Another reason why Meghan couldn't be bothered to interview the lesser-known guests: as they had expertise in their fields, it would be necessary for the interviewer to do some research and learn about those issues in order to do a credible interview. Staffers can do background research and write her a list of questions, but without understanding it's not possible converse back and forth with someone like that without betraying her ignorance. So it's laziness once again. Meghan can take the time to talk to people like Serena Williams and Sophie Trudeau, whom she already knows, because it doesn't require effort; she already has the background research baked in. But an academic or a writer? She'd have to READ A BOOK! She doesn't have time to waste on that nonsense! She's got a date with the paparazzi to strut around in $80,000 worth of bling and accessories!

[@localjess838]

Reason why she couldn't cope as a member of the RF She couldn't read or study to make small talk At one of her appearances at a Seniors home (where she wore the really tight floral dress) She had only one question "so how long have you been here?"

[@GMLGMD]

... and receive meaningless awards.

[@valerieslater-t1v]

Love listening to you, and you are always right in my opinion. I believe they both honestly thought that their titles would get them everywhere, and actually they did. That is the only reason they got those massive deals, and they didnt deserve them !!

[@madmelwood3778]

Yep...they did

[@janicetoolson6382]

Pluto you nailed it again. From the first one I realized that each flopcast would be created to try to dispell the titles she had so effortlessly earned to date. " Difficult", "B word"( This girl with the reputation for swearing like a sailor couldn't say that horribly bad word) "ambitious" and every other stereotype I'd heard used to describe her prior to the podcast. She thought she could manipulate the narrative again!!!😮 I don't think I made it past 4 of them. I, being a former writer, saw through each and every flopcast, interview (H + M's) stupid docuseries that wanted you to believe they weren't 40 yrs old and that it was the greatest love story of all times and all of the other non meaningful, cruel " content" they ( or their assistants) produced. Even their star studded wedding didn't capture my affection. Anyway, I've said it before but if Spotify were to capture the talent of you and a few of my other faves, I can't even imagine what great podcasts they could be proud of. (And you with a full time difficult job as a lawyer stomps her work into the ground.) Anyway I could go on and on but I won't. I'll just thank you for sharing your time and talents with us. I definitely understand and admire what really goes into creating and actually delivering Great shows like yours . You have a natural talent and a whole bunch of common sense. ❤

[@GradKat]

Hear, hear!

[@pennylando3145]

One of the impressions I've formed of MM is that she is unlikely to get out of her own way and accept that people who have worked in whatever field she's in at the time know a great deal more than she does. This may have been the problem with Palace staff - I think that, as a boss, MM is probably intimidated by the talent around her rather than grateful for it, and this inferiority may be behind the alleged bullying of staff. When you have someone like that in the workplace, aside from the atmosphere they generate they also cause confusion and delay.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

Wow, what a terrific bit of psychological punditry! I think your insights on not just her personality, but her personality in the context of in a team/workplace environment were bang on. Great comment. Observant, insightful, articulate and clearly coming from someone who has relevant life experience. I'm glad I scrolled down to read.

[@kirstenanderson1435]

Totally agree. She was mean and denigrated the Palace staff because deep down she knew they were more intelligent, refined and capable than she, so she had to build herself up by treating them as if they were the inferior ones.

[@annicecooper8105]

She always struck me as incredibly insecure. She can't ever admit she's in the wrong and lashes out at those around her when she feels threatened. And then turns round and places the blame on those she has just lashes out at. I've worked with people like this in the past and they are exhausting and hugely destructive.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

@@kirstenanderson1435 She cannot, and never could, humble herself personally or intellectually to realise that in the UK-- and from the unique vantage point of being INSIDE the royal family-- the entire planet is seen differently to how it is within the American entertainment industry. You must cut your ties and let American self importance go; you are no longer the centre of gravity and you have to see the world from within another paradigm, if you will or risk exposing your limited, parochial, self-important, ignorant thinking, life experience and educational background. The UK has a different history, a different place in the world, different culture and relationship to other countries all informed by OUR history. She patently couldn't switch from self-satisfied, know-it-all Californian dynamo and take some time away from showing off. She never seem to DESIRE to be a curious learner, a more modest, observant student of not just culture and history, but of reality itself. Most enthusiastic, open-minded, intellectually hungry migrants have a weird brush with unintended psychedelia; having your entire perception and understanding of the world turned on it's head simply by wilfully embedding yourself in a foreign culture and learning detached from your previous self-important, self-centred cultural standpoint is REALLY trippy! You realise that all you knew is just PART of the how the world works and you cannot apply your own previous experience, experience and knowledge like a skrim over everything; you have to take a seat and learn anew, from a new perspective entirely-- and marvel! Her arrogance and ignorance combine to undo her. She didn't have the humility and personal curiosity to learn about UK history, tradition, culture, social etiquette and opted to do what the majority of half-hearted migrants do as they're 'just passing through'; which is to remain trapped entirely without self-awareness in their eternally self-referential cultural loop. She didn't want to learn ANYTHING about Europe, the UK, it's people (the ones she said she would dedicate her life to serving in the early dishonest official PR interviews). She didn't excitedly pick up some history books, get fully into documentaries like we all would, thrilled to be in the thick of such action in a new glorious part of the world. Nope. She thought she had merely levelled up and gotten a golden ticket to the land of Ultimate Super Celebrity and that her new position would work for HER and HER ambitions. If she'd been genuinely passionate and interested in monarchy, in British history, society and culture she'd have learned what she was agreeing to be a part of. From the start she and Harry planned to leave. Apparently she was left all alone, with nobody to teach her about court/social etiquette. That's not true. Everyone would have been sent in to coach and educate. Why lie about it? If they weren't, then that's seriously strange. No lessons in curtseying, how to behave at upper class functions. She didn't know the national anthem. Eurch! The early interviews are yet more disgusting bare-faced lies to us. And they wonder why we all dislike and do not respect them. Didn't know about curtseying to the Queen, though it was 'ridiculous' and 'a joke'?! Imagine her moving to Korea and dating a Korean man, having him explain THEIR New Year's Day cultural tradition of getting down in front of their parents, on all fours and bowing with their foreheads touching the ground. Would she have said THAT was 'a ridiculous joke'?! What a cliched, ignorant woman entirely without self-awareness but with an overdose of self-consciousness. Whew. Rant over.

[@diane8885]

Yes! And sometimes they create a toxic atmosphere!

[@glenncheatham1320]

She complained about doing the simple meet & greet on their Royal Tour. So of course she is too lazy to “work” on the podcast.

[@angelasims2759]

princess anne never said a word yet she is an incredible role model.

[@LifeIsButADreem]

She loves the Arch thing because it is Rach. It's her, using her own name for everything. She tried to pass it off as being in Archie's name, but it's all about her.

[@gg79139]

Megan Kelly is a perfect example of a GREAT listener to her guests, asks interesting questions on what she hears them saying and then allows THEM the opportunity to talk and deeper explain their point. Your research and ability to succinctly express your ideas keeps me coming back!

[@14ToeBeans]

I can’t believe you’re saying this. Maybe she’s grown, but Meghan Kelly is a HORRIBLE interviewer.

[@Pleasureoriley]

Not a fan of Megan Kelly, but you’re right. She listens to compelling stories. Always a successful format.

[@starlightnight5593]

She has all the resources, qualified team and everything at her feet but sadly she chose this podcast to be about herself and her victimhood. She didn't even worked for half of it. Thank God , Taylor didn't gave her precious time to her.

[@benable]

MM’s victimhood worked for her on her first appearance on Oprah, and she was able to get Piers Morgan fired for doubting her

[@gg79139]

Taylor Swift is an extremely savvy business person and respects herself too much to allow a two-bit-wanna be the opportunity to use her for nefarious gain. Taylor’s mother is to be commended for raising her to be respectful of others, regardless of their station in life, to be kind and thoughtful in what she speaks and to hold her elders in regard.

[@starlightnight5593]

@@gg79139 True

[@missyfromholland4004]

Meghan is so blinded by her ego that she doesn't see the amazing opportunities she held in her hands.

[@freyjathorsdottir5126]

B-B-B but she wasn’t getting paid! She’s a real thicko.

[@elizabethstewart552]

You are one of my favorite content creators. M & H are not only unintelligent, but they lack creativity, and a decent work ethic like you stated. Meghan's ego is next level and that is what will continue to be her downfall. Narcissists are incapable of any type of self-reflection, so she will plummet rather than learn from her mistakes. Everything is everyone else's fault (The Royal family, PR firms, the racist British press, etc, etc, etc) My husband turned on Suits last night because it is now on Netflix. I could only stomach watching about two episodes, and I honestly can say she is a TERRIBLE actress. So she doesn't even have that going for her.

[@GradKat]

I read her total screen time on that show was 59 mins. Don’t know if that’s true, but she certainly wasn’t a major star, even on that.

[@Curlie_Mermaid]

​@@GradKatNo way! Only 59 mins, her entire acting on that series amounted to that?!!😂😂😂😂

[@unicornL]

I'm so sick of them using the root word "arch" for all their business ventures, and yet have we ever really seen Archie? Not really. Also- I'm sorry, but their children's names are horrible. They were upset about the lack of titles, but they did nothing to align w the royal protocols and traditions. It's so confounding, honestly.

[@vq2vx]

apparently all the 'arch' isn't related to the purported boy at all, but to her actual 1st name, rachel🤢her ego is out in the stratosphere

[@madmelwood3778]

It's HW being ornery

[@sandramackie8311]

The Spotify executive called them a couple of lazy f...... grifters. Kelly Osborne also got it right in her interview. People now realise they are horrible people.

[@Suzeaphone]

In 2020 Spotify only needed to search what the UK thought of Megxit and the duo and the bullying allegations and the disrespectful statements to the Queen about service and, and and. I’m glad they’re out millions.

[@maggieswithenbank6709]

Not glad about the 200 employees that Spotify let go…bad decisions at the top, over which the workers have no say in, are then made to feel the kick out the door. Now that’s sad….

[@madmelwood3778]

Yep...100% agree

[@eh-i1841]

I wonder how many customers Netflix lost,after signing up,those two charlatans.I know that I won’t go back,until they have been dumped.

[@danmac579]

Given it’s come out that she didn’t actually do most of these interviews herself, and only chose to work one hour a week….it’s no wonder she failed

[@maggieswithenbank6709]

Well done, Pluto! You are my favourite channel! Wish you could get some million$ for your efforts! Hope you have a great week!

[@shellbell2628]

I love your content. It’s interesting, informative, fair and well spoken. The only criticism is you don’t put out enough!

[@trishabens6357]

I appreciate 🙏 all the sessions Pluto complies each week She has a extremely DEMANDING ROLE in her career. Thankyou Pluto for giving 💓 💖 💗 us such QUALITY CONTENT.

[@chrissymags3665]

@@katrinawong8273 I think they all cater to different audiences, people like me love Neil Sean and his daily updates. Love Body Language guy for his humorous take on the Harkles. Love Lost Beyong Pluto for her intelligence and well articulation of her content. There is room for everyone to enjoy what they like. No need to trash other people whilst praising Pluto.

[@PHILIPSUPER08]

Here all these stories are always so cleverly put together... Really love this channel. Meghan: I also forced myself to listen to the podcast, I was laughing so much, because it always sounded like Meghan is working on an audio book. Its not just what she talks (about herself) its also how. Its like her calligraphic letters put into sound. Bombastic and pathetic and nothing behind it.And you feel the love she has for herself.

[@ester_22]

You summed it up so clear and precise what her podcast was. 👏

[@artj2657]

Brilliant critique of their Spot-a-lie partnership! 👌Pretty much same scenario as to why she couldn’t cut in with The Royal family. She wanted all the perks without the work❗️

[@marianabryce7250]

Thanks for an extremely well thought out video. You are spot on with everything!! Spotify learnt a costly lesson by not doing their due diligence before signing up with the grifters!! 🙄

[@anneamazingsocleverrowland3434]

Always worth waiting for your analysis.

[@sarahengelbrecht3632]

Meghan's little trailer about how fun it will be to talk about herself reminds me of that SNL "Delicious Dish" skit. Cracks me up!

[@Gardenofgoodness]

They probably blame it on the British media that they got canceled

[@gillbellingham]

Your honesty is soooooo refreshing. Glad I found you on Tube

[@MrNemoYo]

Oh wow, her face when she said, "We created arsewell audio to make sure we can elevate voices that maybe aren't being heard, and hear peoples stories" Translation: "Oh yeah baby!!! You gonna hear me now! That's right! Ah got stories and y'all gonna hear them!" Excellent dissection BTW

[@iaam8141]

Joe Rogan had said in the early days of the podcast, to this effect: "This cannot sustain. It will not work." Kudos to Joe for being sharp with his observation. Perhaps he already knew they weren't 'live' podcasts but faked ones to make them appear to be.

[@Datwaifu]

Meghan's life and lies would be a hell of a Black Mirror episode.

[@Rando15]

You did very well to endure her Archetypes. I cannot listen to her at all!

[@tipple58]

Pluto certainly deserves a medal!

[@jamiedee36]

The absolute train wreck that is the Harkles is fascinating to watch. I’ve been ‘on to’ them since they screamed about climate change while taking multiple private jets in under 3 weeks. Having the rest of the actual planet see what I ( & so many others, RIP Danja Zone) is beyond satisfying.

[@Shaman-Sun18]

As always, excellent work! Red Flag 🚩- when Harry publicly and shamefully hit up Bob Iger at The Lion King Premiere. It was tacky & pathetic then, now, in hindsight, revealing. Which also supports and co-signs your point in this segment. Well done!

[@GGT74]

Just loved the way you explained things about them so loud and clear.

[@kirri1312]

If they were going to be that lazy, they should’ve just invested their multi millions and live off the dividends. They’d never have to work again. Imagine if they just cut out the lawsuits and the unnecessarily huge security team? They’d be richer in an instant!!

[@jenniferdiazruby]

I honestly closed my Spotify account when I heard they were signed. I can listen to the podcasts I do on apple and Amazon. Love your content! I look forward to new videos from you!

[@christinechildress5021]

I got rid of Netflix for the same reason. I guess it was the only way to get them to understand we don’t want more people like her running the world

[@AbbeyLiles]

I listened to Megan’s podcast once and she brought every conversation back to her. The whole podcast she wanted to be about HER

[@LeanneChristian-ob2pb]

It’s insane imagine being the duke and dutchess of Sussex of England and you are out in California looking for podcast ideas when in actuality you have no idea about how to even go about a podcast to begin with. Seriously these two need help.

[@observer8838]

Excellent summary. She is so lazy. She will pay others to produce something for Netflix rather than lose the rest of the money.

[@missbee9140]

The best interviewers don’t make the interview about themselves!

[@It-Is-What-It-Is.]

Even sitting on the sofa doing their podcast teaser, you can see Harry's "enthusiasm".

[@JeanneStabile-e9e]

So look forward to every episode. Filled with insight and nailing it every time. I hope they don’t go away, just so you can keep exposing their every move. H and M have actually created a cottage industry……you, Lady C , Tom Bower all had her number early on. She deserves all the bad Karma raining down on her now.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

Yep. From the outside (if we didn't know too much about M & H, only the bare basics of their identities and backstory), a podcast idea looks like pure gold. I could envision the most electric, intelligent, insightful, explosive and brilliant podcast from a couple who have their story. As you so wittily stated, and which I'll re phrase slightly here, the reasons for that imagined podcast never happening would be simple to explain: it's because they're mentally underwhelming, creatively untalented, emotionally very immature and morally polluted as individuals. They have awful personalities, psychological issues that are troubling and disruptive and intellects that will permanently underperform due to the ugly influence of their self-entitlement and parochial upbringings getting into every thought that comes into their head Neither are well-integrated as thinkers or personalities. They're incredibly self-conscious and they (ironically for Megan), come off as uptight, performative and entirely preconceived. That doesn't resonate with listeners/readers. Image obsessed and careful about every single thing they say, lest it tarnish the image and brand they're trying to create through such ugly strategizing. Their podcast was not what one could have imagined it being. I can close my eyes and envision something else entirely. Such a golden opportunity blown. But the reason that great podcast I'm imagining DID NOT happen is because they're not actually capable as people. They're a pair of self aggrandising, bloated, paranoid, controlling dumbos who see themselves as smarter than they are and toil in this deluded, entitled state churning out the most derivative, outdated, generic nonsense, entirely oblivious to their being overtaken in public discourse before they've even opened their mouths.

[@lesleymay6757]

👏👏👏👏👏 well said!

[@Susan-vl8ts]

Well said. But especially pertains to Harry, whose only job was being a Royal and he was an infantryman in the Army. And showed up at some charities. No higher education. No goals. Turns out his only talent was badmouthing his family.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

@@Susan-vl8ts Yep, agree with everything you wrote Susan. Watching healthy, cossetted, enormously wealthy, privileged young people squander their grand good fortune and make things uglier in society instead of better is infuriating. It's what fuels my ire, amongst out satellite issues connected to them directly.

[@helentaylor7132]

In summary, catastrophic failure to launch (into adulthood).

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

@@helentaylor7132 Great turn of phrase! I just re-read my brutal original comment above and feel compelled to clarify that I only have such rough assessments of those two because of their horrible, horrible DELIBERATE influence on culture, politics etc. If they stayed out of socio-politics, trendy activism and so on, I wouldn't have half the vitriol and disgust I do and wouldn't dream of developing and publicly expressing such anger and resentment. I dislike people with power and privilege doing such damage...with smiles and 'butter wouldn't melt' attitudes. All the wrong people are smeared as villains in life, meanwhile the damage is done under the radar, under the glossy 'happy hippy' veneer. Have you noticed that embarrassing, infuriating injustice too?

[@kellyfalletta1949]

Pluto always provides excellent content that is informative, educational, and entertaining. Thank you for the tons of hard work.

[@fred4859]

As a fellow veteran you will recognize that Meghan is actually a small part of the problem. It’s all the people and social dynamics that let her get as far as she did. When I was late for muster the NCO used to multiply my minute tardiness by everybody standing in formation. He wanted everyone to know how much of a problem I was even if you thought I didn’t matter to your situation. Thank you HM1!

[@bahrano2268]

Exactly they got past the barriers, great observation and description 👏🏼 u don't wanna stay a victim in ur life, and the problem is that she wasn't a victim to begin with!

[@BabsMcHugh550]

Hey Pluto, you really toolk one for team, listening to every podcast.

[@cheechalker8430]

“Meghan - we’re just not that into you. Sincerely, The World”

[@yesican1571]

Bet even today, Meghan's ego can't handle that Harry and his family are the draw, not her.

[@noramero2955]

20 million I will work night and day to get it close to perfect because my life depends on that money.

[@joerobinson1672]

For a start Because it wasnt about ‘Archetypes’ it was about social ‘Stereotypes’ a subject that could of been quite interesting headed by a qualified social scientist ended up all about a sociopathic narcissist’s obsession with social climbing.

[@madmelwood3778]

It could have been more entertaining if a couple of friends had a chat about the stereotypes over a glass of wine

[@mclarenjohnf1]

The story about Dior comes from them actually being interested in Harry and Harry wanted them to go for MeMe as well.

[@missyfromholland4004]

I love your channel. It's so rich and specific, articulate. Gold! Spotify should sign you!

[@beverlystraus9300]

At first, I thought that Markle may have taken a short- cut by doing the celebrity interviews via ZOOM, but actually having delegating an underling to perform the interview instead & later adding Meghan's words in incredibly deceitful and lazy! 🙄😡😳

[@notpurrfect6397]

He did a pay-for-view "therapy" session while on the Spotify dime. I wonder what the execs thought about that.

[@Digmer]

Serena: so yeah i won a game after pulling an allnighter with my child thay had a feve... Meghan: YEAH YEAH? well MY child...almost burns and dies in a fire!!!!! Yeah!!! Who got it worse????? Ps: it was faulty wiring on a house appliance and there was some smoke, not a spark or a fire and baby was never in danger.

[@fairyprincess911]

Just one question: how did she think she could get away with this? Answer: mind of a magical thinking teen ager. (They can’t possibly have children under their care)

[@jswjanjan]

I pray they do not.

[@jrsands]

It’s shocking how this whole drama exposed Harry as a country bumpkin prince.

[@MrELMENDA27]

I hope you get to read this, Pluto, and take it in the good spirit it is meant. When you sit in front of that book shelf, you have an upright growing up and out from behind your head. I'm a photographer of several decades and one of the first things I was taught (does it no longer apply?), especially in wedding reportage, is to avoid precisely that, at all costs: tree trunks or branches, posts and poles, even architraves, etc... Out in the field, quite easy: move the camera one of two feet to one side or ask the subject to do so. You know your surroundings so I can't comment on what other background is available to you. Just a comment from a pedantic old geezer who hopes to not offend you. As for your podcasts, excellent, I enjoy every one of them, including Zach; keep up the good work. A subscriber.

[@geej1143]

What I love about Pluto's podcasts is her analysis. There's depth and tons of research behind the episodes and her legal take is often spot on. Take note, Meghan, this is how you create a great podcast!

[@Lorisa25]

H&M were never paid 20M & 130M from Spotify/Netflix. Megan's PR company started the rumours on Twitter (I remember many Royalist KZbinrs tracing it back to the first tweets) & the networks said nothing cuz it made them look rich af. A former Netflix employee said it was likelier they were paid 5m to be on retainer for 5 years as they had zero experience.

[@Susan-vl8ts]

She talked to Serena about 'ambition' (in which she gave a dig to the RF that they made her think that was a bad thing) - as if a struggling actress that she wound up appearing in a game show and cable tv show - to Serena, who had endured Samurai-like training since childhood to become one of the top female tennis players in the world is the same 'ambition'. Then she told ridiculous stories such as her assignment to plan a wedding in religious class (5 minutes no kidding). She tried to identify with her guests: 'I'm 43% Nigerian! I went to Korean spas all the time! I was also objectified!, I love Compton!, etc. She made several digs at the RF, saying they 'forced' her to go to a Royal obligation after Archie's room went on fire (lie) - and after The Queen's passing they had to put her podcast on hold for a few weeks in order to edit out all of her other insults toward the RF. The podcast was all about her and like you said, it was just like their series - her trying to invalidate all the stories about her, which were true.