LOTR The Two Towers - "Where is the Horse and the Rider?"

King Théoden's grievous speech while Gamling is putting on his armour, before the battle of Helm's Deep begins. (HD Blu-ray)
"Where is the horse and the rider?
Where is the horn that was blowing?
They have passed like rain on the mountains,
like wind in the meadow.
The days have gone down in the West,
behind the hills... into Shadow."
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More tags: Theoden Where is the horse and the rider speech Rohan Helm's Deep battle Gamling Every villager able to wield a sword has been sent to the armory My lord Theoden speech Who am I Gamling You are our King sire Theoden And do you trust your king Gamling Your men my lord will follow you to whatever end Theoden To whatever end Théoden speech Where is the horse and the rider Where is the horn that was blowing They have passed like rain on the mountains like wind in the meadow The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into Shadow How did it come to this Uruk-hai army marching to Helm's Deep battle war Galming helps Theoden put on his armor Théoden suits up for battle Helm's Deep speech

[@pscar1]

Bernard Hill goes to his fathers. Amongst whose company he will not be ashamed. Rip.

[@GorillaMastah]

HAIL THEODEN KING

[@illi1238]

Hail the victorious dead!

[@arianebolt1575]

His spirit will find its way to the halls of his fathers.

[@ZiggyMandarr]

No fanbase should have to bury their king.

[@DoffenGG]

We do trust our King❤

[@SirRobbie89]

"I go now to the halls of my fathers. In whose mighty company I shall not now feel ashamed." RIP Theoden King

[@shawnthompson2303]

Hail the Victorious Dead! *HAIL THEODEN KING!!!*

[@unlawfulcoconut7291]

HAIL THEODEN KING

[@amuroray9115]

@@shawnthompson2303 HAIL!!

[@bighand1530]

HAIL KING THEODEN!!

[@charliebrownn6622]

VIVA EL REY THEODEN ! 🙌

[@jemmywen1674]

Bernard Hill has the best human scene in LOTR : 1. "No parent should ever have to bury their child" scene 2. "Where is the horse and the rider?" speech 3. Rohirrim ride for ruin and the world's ending scene 4. I go to my Fathers in whose mighty company I shall not now feel ashamed scene Beautiful heart touching and emotional

[@SirAndacar]

Number one hits me the hardest. I am a parent who has had to bury a child.

[@SirAndacar]

@Diogo Macena was it ad libbed?

[@smaakjeks]

@@SirAndacar There was something about it on the behind the scenes material. A lady had told Hill about their child passing away and how no parent should have to do this. He said that the moment stuck with him, and so it was included in the script. He said he wanted to really make that one line perfect. In my opinion he succeeded.

[@SirAndacar]

​@@smaakjeks, it is the worst thing in the world. Our daughter was 14, and we lost her to depression, bullying, and mental illness. It was a year and a half ago and it's still like yesterday.

[@smaakjeks]

@@SirAndacar I can't pretend to know what you've been through, or to offer any kind of advice or words of wisdom. So, I'll just settle for hearing you.

[@xtremeranger30]

“For he was a gentle heart and a great king and kept his oaths; and he rose out of the shadows to a last fair morning”. RIP Bernard Hill

[@robst247]

Spoken by Aragorn in the Houses of Healing

[@urpaderpa]

Bernard Hill seems to receive a criminally low amount of praise for his work in these movies. He's just brilliant, and he portrays one of the most human and complex characters in the trilogy .

[@coreywright33]

YES! I verily agree with these sentiments.

[@markpapenfuss1111]

Exactly.

[@BrianStorm742]

Agreed! He's actually one of my favourite actors in the trilogy.

[@captain2ahab]

And Miranda Otto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@lacuevadecuentoschaparros6421]

He performed perfectly.

[@bipartisanboogers8914]

RIP BERNARD HILL. Go to the halls of your fathers.

[@jorge113355]

In their mighty company you shall not feel any shame

[@golemgaine4124]

🙏🏼 hail the victorious dead !

[@louthegiantcookie]

Bernard Hill, God rest him, embodied one of Tolkien's finest characters. Theoden is a tragic hero, wracked by grief and age, forcing himself to fight insurmountable odds when his best days are behind him, in a world which seems to be changing for the worse. But despite the hopelessness, he always made the character feel so charming and fatherly.

[@spiffygonzales5160]

Makes me wonder if it was a metaphor for someone Tolkien knew during the war... or maybe even Tolkien himself?

[@LordVader1094]

@@spiffygonzales5160 I expect the former, if it was inspired by such and not just the ancient Anglo-Saxon tradition. Tolkien saw more of himself in Faramir than Theoden.

[@Ubiquitous1984]

RIP Bernard Hill. This scene will live on forever.

[@chubbyninja89]

Agreed, it will.

[@MaxwellDurrans]

@@chubbyninja89 its iconic now. Listen to this speech when you look at the state of the UK and America to day. Once great developed empires........ How did it come to this.

[@chubbyninja89]

@@MaxwellDurrans Agreed. While I know how and why it came to this sort of state we're living in now, it doesn't make it any less sad to see.

[@MaxwellDurrans]

@@chubbyninja89 yeah, there is always hope though.

[@chubbyninja89]

@@MaxwellDurrans Agreed. We can't give up hope, even if it seems hopeless at times.

[@jmiller05]

What a beautifully written character Theoden was. Prideful and insecure yes, but so noble in his dedication to his people and ultimately heroically self-sacrificing for the sake of Middle Earth.

[@karafprof7053]

+jmiller05 Exactly! Theoden is one of my favorite heroes.

[@hanson666999]

+jmiller05 Excellent comment

[@OskarMGKruse]

+jmiller05 Thats fucking spot on. Wp

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

+jmiller05 well you need big balls to charge giant elephants head on.

[@AndyG0027]

yeah he just had so many prime moments.

[@KennyG881]

I gotta give Theoden some credit. His mind was recently taken over by Saruman (can't imagine what kind of hell that was). His only son just died. And 10000 uruks are coming to destroy him, his people, and his kingdom. But yet he was able to keep his shit together and help lead his men to victory. Not many people would be able to do that.

[@greatlordbalder788]

Victory at helms deep does not belong to Theoden "Horse-master".

[@cheesus7672]

@KennyG881 King Theoden (43), able to keep his shit together 😂

[@jeremydaly8293]

@Jonathan Williams ehhhh it's implied theres some sort of enchantment laid upon Theoden, even in the books.

[@jackcoleman1784]

Actually Theodens a representation of the self centered issues that plague men in Middle Earth and not that great of a leader though not quite the piece of shit the steward of Gondor is. A common theme is how the older races view the arrogant youth of mankind and he is a part of this theme. He's expressly advised AGAINST going to Helms Deep in the film for good reason but he insists on going because "it's never been breached". He is advised to call for aid from Gondor but doesn't because wah where was Gondor when I needed them. The walls of Helms Deep are breached and he is forced back to the inner keep and is ready to call it quits when Aragorn convinces him to attempt to take the initiative and ride out. It is only through the works of Gandalf, and Aragorn that the battle of Helms Deep is salvaged. Theodin later comes to represent the redeemable qualities of man by answering the call to aid at Minas Tirith but he's purposely written as a flawed ruler and hardly wins the day at Helms Deep.

[@smillingdooku8116]

@@greatlordbalder788 You are an lesser son of greater sires

[@jonperans]

"I go to my fathers. And even in their mighty company I shall not now be ashamed". Thank you for bringing King Theoden to life. Rest in peace, Bernard Hill.

[@Scribe31us]

I met the actor who played Gamling and he said when Bernard was performing this scene, everyone had chills.

[@kim-andrekalleklev325]

True ? I would imagine thou...

[@LeoPriester]

@@kim-andrekalleklev325 100% true. I was Saruman and I confirm everything he said.

[@ladyearin]

As they should

[@dessertstorm7476]

you should have asked him why he's the only rohirrim who doesn't sound English.

[@demariushenderson1802]

These kind of LOTR scenes are what made the Hobbit Trilogy feel like they were missing something. LOTR had a certain poetry and atmosphere to it. The Hobbit just felt like a rushed action-adventure movie.

[@TheBarber5550]

+David Yang I agree with both these comments

[@hunsler1006]

I don't know, there were many "magic moments" in the Hobbit. When Bilbo explains why he kept with the company and others. Most did include Bilbo, tbf to David Yang I would say there weren't half as many in the Hobbit.

[@hunsler1006]

Sweetpea Chickpea about what?

[@hunsler1006]

Sweetpea Chickpea For sure. The high-ups didn't even want to wait a few months for Martin Freeman to be available, can you imagine those films without Freeman!. And I think most people were behind putting a female character or two in the Hobbit. And Thranduil is Legolas' father, why wouldn't Legolas be there. But the shitty love story was forced on him that nobody really liked. And Legolas really didn't need to be used in that way, could have shown him leading his fellow people at the Battle of the 5 armies in a general's role, something we haven't seen him do before. Instead we got gravity defying matrix bullshit that got boring quickly. I mean, we all know Legolas survives, so there was no danger for him. Why not let Beorn fight Bolg where there's more tension. And who didn't want to see Bolg gett his face torn off by a giant bear ;) ... rant over lol.

[@TheBarber5550]

hunsler1006 I agree with this comment/rant.

[@jamiemcmillan6742]

This speech is comprised of various extracts from a short piece of poetry Tolkien wrote in the book. Tolkien himself drew the inspiration from a part of an Old English (he was professor of Anglo-saxon at Oxford) poem called 'The Wanderer'. Goes a little like this: 'Hwaer cwom mearg, hwaer cwom mago? Hwaer cwom maþþumgyfa? Hwaer cwom symbla gesetu? Hwaer sindon seledreamas? Eala beorht bune, eala byrnwiga, eala theodnes þrym! Hu seo þrag gewat, Genap under nihthelm, swa heo no waere!' Translates as this into modern English, with a rough approximation of the metre: 'Whither has gone the horse, whither the man? Where now is the giver of treasure? Where are the palaces of the feast, where are the pleasures of the hall? Alas for the glittering goblet! Alas for the girt warrior! Alas for the princes power! How those days have departed, Darkened under night's shadow, as if they had never been!' Just a little light trivia for you.

[@jamiemcmillan6742]

+Nico Neuwirth Thank you.

[@mnirwin5112]

Thank you!

[@Nuvendil]

For those who may not know, This is the full Poem Tolkien wrote inspired by that: Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?

[@Nuvendil]

***** Indeed. Usually well done, though sometimes it loses a bit of impact. For example, because he cut the Battle of Pelanor fields rather short, the "DEATH!" cry is moved from Eomer's brief monologue mid battle after seeing Eowyn fallen in the field to the part right before the Rohirrim charge. Which robs it of some of its potency: in the movie it's more about grim intimidation, while in the book it represented a shift of the Rohirrim from the bold thrill of battle to grim, despairing wrath.

[@robertslipek7311]

Reminds me of the Ring Keeper's speech in Beowulf, where his whole tribe was wiped out by war and famine and all he had left was treasure, so he sealed it up in a mountain only for a Dragon to claim it shortly after his death. Theoden is very much echoing the Key Keeper's tone except this is directly before the battle rather than after. ""Now, earth, hold what earls once held and heroes can no more; it was mined from you first by honorable men. My own people have been ruined in war; one by one they went down to death, looked their last on sweet life in the hall. I am left with nobody to bear a sword or burnish plated goblets, put a sheen on the cup. The companies have departed. The hard helmet, hasped with gold, will be stripped of its hoops; and the helmet-shiner who should polish the metal of the war-mask sleeps; the coat of mail that came through all fights, through shield-collapse and cut of sword, decays with the warrior. Nor may webbed mail range far and wide on the warlord's back beside his mustered troops. No trembling harp, no tuned timber, no tumbling hawk swerving through the hall, no swift horse pawing the courtyard. Pillage and slaughter have emptied the earth of entire peoples."

[@trevorvallo5841]

A helmet being placed on a child when it's clearly meant for someone who is older is either the most dark or the most haunting scene...... he may not live long enough to fit into that helmet..... 😔😔😔😔

[@anarchonazbol6768]

All the kids died. Only the kings house guards survived

[@IAsimov]

You can see the child is terrified. He knows he is going to die. That scene always haunted me. It's odd, but seeing that scene in meme form, to represent the italian medical students that would become doctors in the middle of the worst pandemic in a hundred years, haunted me just as much. Baptized by fire, asked to defend your people when you do not feel ready, not knowing if you will make it in uncertain and terrifying times. I think it is why both the books and the films have withstood the test of time. Because we see in them the chaos of our own times.

[@antoinejcrossflowes185]

Men comment that we will not make it through tonight, that there is no hope

[@taahdoesntsuckatlife4855]

Jan Michael Vincent there is no scene showing that. If you say that, it’s also saying all the elves, save Legolas died.

[@Noble-ws8ph]

@@anarchonazbol6768 You sure. Because i saw a lot of men riding out from Edoras in Rotk and most of them were just normal dudes

[@davidsuchy3581]

This is also one of Gamling's best scenes. He doesn't freak out, he senses what is going on and actually provides the temporary foundation for Théoden to recover. Notice how gamling initiates the armour dress up as soon as Théoden asks the question "who am I", cueing Gamling as to what is happening for Théoden (self doubt, openness, curiosity, quiet determination). King or attendant, it's just two bros (humans) who know how to show up for each other. Thoughts?

[@Marcelseizesanschaise]

100%, Gamling is being a total g with Théoden. Keeping it really and helping him remember who he is and what he means to them

[@dreamer2260]

Yep well put; Gamling definitely recognises what is happening and acts effectively to reassure and re-ground his king.

[@jonathanstubbs8158]

100%.

[@MrDeathMachine]

Gamling recognises the gravity of the situation with “Your men will follow you to whatever end.” He knows they are likely to all die, but it’s far worse to succumb to cowardice and despair. Forge a brotherhood with your bros and they will have your back no matter the odds.

[@_Cato_]

Perfect representation of brotherhood. The king, with the weight of the world upon his shoulders, begins to show self-doubt. His closest friend and advisor recognizes this, immediately steps in to lift him back up, and remind Theoden of who he is, and what his duty calls for.

[@TomorrowWeLive]

All the best lines in the movie come directly from the books, and Theoden gets more than most, hence why his dialogue is so powerful.

[@hunsler1006]

I agree although I do like Sam's speech. Also One of Theoden's best lines "no parent should have to bury their child" was improvised.

[@susantherestorer]

How did you find that out?

[@hunsler1006]

SusantheRestorer He says so in the video commentary. When I say improvised, there is a story behind it. He was working with people who had lost their children (like a charity thing) and a woman said "No parent should have to bury their child". Bernard said that line stuck with him ever since and he knew he wanted to put it in the film.

[@ihateflags1]

The book version of this poem is trash. The movie version cuts out the cheap rhyming garbage

[@TheMrFu]

Rohan lives and marches on

[@Kanig94]

The acting, the swelling music, the lines from the book. I've said it a thousand times and I will say it even more, best movie trilogy of all time

[@italianadventurer1157]

watch the new teaser of the amazon series. the acting... i don't know... for us lotr is this level of performance. in amazon's series, it seems so shallow. but let's hope for the best!

[@Kanig94]

@@italianadventurer1157 I'm not 1% as hyped for the show as to watching the LOTR for the 50th time

[@sandcrawlerstudios2013]

The days have gone down in the west...

[@billkats3524]

@@Kanig94 Coming here from the Nerdrotic latest video starting like this,How did it come to this...

[@breakhammer87]

@@billkats3524 yup same here

[@geckosethpe]

Rest in Peace, our brave king who fought on the front lines and stood by his people.

[@rpgadventurer32]

RIP Bernard Hill, your performance will never be forgotten!

[@VandalCleaver]

When I was younger, I used to find Theoden rather annoying. He always seemed to be either complaining or bickering, but now, he is one of my absolute favourite characters. He not only bears the immense burden of being King of Rohan, but also the fear of being, as Saruman said “A lesser son of greater sires.” He’s completely riddled with self doubt, and yet he still manages to be the absolute backbone of his kingdom. When the shit has completely hit the fan, he’s always there with a beautiful lament like this, followed by a deafening roar of resistance. “Spears shall be shaken, shields shall be splintered! A sore day! A red day! ERE THE SUN RISES!”

[@spacecruisers]

excellent insight - i felt the same way.

[@Rimmer7]

A sword day, not a sore day lol

[@blackandballin]

in the book it is Theoden who calls himself a lesser son of greater sires when he's telling Saruman to fuck off when he and Gandalf ride to Isengard

[@instak9011]

@@blackandballin 'Telling Saruman to fuck off'. Couldnt have described that any better lol

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

"I go now to my fathers. In whose mighty company. I shall not now feel ashamed..."

[@joe6419]

Rest in Peace Bernard Hill. Thank you.

[@SAURON479]

I am absolutely devastated by your passing. no one could interpret it better you will forever remain King Theoden. rip and bon voyage great actor.

[@jedroberts10]

1:11 this is one of the most haunting shots I’ve ever seen on film. A little boy being given weapons of war because there is no one else left to fight. A helmet that is clearly meant for someone older than he, but they’re not there anymore, so it’s his responsibility. Through the course of the battle Jackson doesn’t show any of the children fighting or dying, but we see who survives the battle at the end, and they aren’t there. This whole scene absolutely crushes me every time I watch it

[@NNoitraa]

I believe we see the child with the helmet throwing a rock during the siege

[@laurasosnow383]

Ever since I started teaching kids who are Haleth, son of Hama's age, I stopped being able to watch this whole sequence without crying. It's an evil, evil day when children are called upon to sacrifice their lives for these awful wars they had no hand in making.

[@KingGhidorah777]

@@laurasosnow383 In a war of extermination there would be no other choice, the scene that haunts me the most is the kid who hefts a shied, covered in chainmail, the shield bigger than his torso. A lot of scenes were an allegory to Tolkiens experience in World War 1, where boys of this age went to fight and die, of course the British Army's stance was you had to be of age, but many a time they ignored it if they looked young, they knew, and they willingly sent 14 year old boys to die in those trenches. For King and Country but unlike this scene where they were forced to take up arms, in most cases those boys went willingly, until they saw the reality of war and wanted to go home but couldn't, desertion being an executable offence by firing squad. But the parallels here cannot be mistaken

[@Triplebrc]

@@KingGhidorah777 It is more messed up here than it was in WW1. No matter your age or sex you can shoot a rifle or throw a grenade rather easily, sending young boys and girls in a medieval war setting to fight against armored Uruk-Hai who far surpass even grown men in strength and durability is a different kind of hopeless waste of life.

[@luisjaime2567]

I know it’s hard to watch, but it’s the way the war is 😢😢

[@kevingreen4952]

"How did it come to this?" This line has haunted me so much over the years. Bernard Hill's delivery of this speach was impeccable and really hammered home desperate of a situation this was for his people. This was puncuated by equally haunting shots of elderly men and terrified boys (probably no older than their late-teens) getting handed weapons and battle armour, inter-cut with the ceaseless march of the Uruk-hai army. In short, this scene is as close to perfection as you can get in film. I get chills every time I watch it.

[@victorpradha9946]

Words of a modest man, a king of a simple people at the brink of a battle with an inhuman enemy. A battle against an enemy that they in no way made or baited, and now the king is left to contemplate the inevitable and senseless loss of life that will inevitably occur, underscored by the fact that he just buried his own son. They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow.

[@rjzavala87]

Watching it in theaters again gave me a very profound admiration for this scene. The words, acting, music and imagery. Its all there. Really feeling the music is what does it.

[@Raveityourway]

Theoden had all the best lines and dialogue in these films.

[@DeCavalcante]

Yes

[@Drax514]

+Hit “Restart” Now Didnt appreciate it as a kid, but yeah. He definitely has some of the best lines hands down.

[@GuruJudge21]

+Hit “Restart” Now Gandalf scored some pretty dope ones himself.

[@hunsler1006]

I'd say between Theoden and Gandalf you have 90% of LOTR's greatest lines haha.

[@nastrael]

GuruJudge21 "So do all who see such times but it is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."

[@oscarstainton]

Times like these, you remember The Lord of the Rings is not a fantasy story, it's our world in all its history and potential to repeat itself, presented through a mythological lens.

[@Benjamin-wy4dj]

Ukraine right now

[@bensheeley4727]

How has it come to this?

[@blastermasterguy]

Tolkien was fighting in WWII in Africa against the black armored tanks and machines of Nazi Germany. The entire world of Lord of the Rings and the struggle of it's Free People's against evil is what Tolkien himself felt like he was fighting against in his life.

[@Benjamin-wy4dj]

@@blastermasterguy I didn't know Nazi Germany existed in WW1 lol

[@abelbabel8484]

That is exactly right. Remember that True Evil comes to you with a beautiful face, bearing great gifts and flattery.

[@zachaffholter7031]

R.I.P. Bernard Hill. King Theoden. "I go to my fathers. In whose company I shall not now be ashamed."

[@vbgggfff]

Something happened to movies at some point between the 2000s and the 2010s. Scenes like this just don't exist anymore.

[@Zack-tx7oz]

Agree with you. Artistic vision is missing. Nearly movie these days is a cheap money grabbing knock-off, rather than emphasizing on cinema as an art or medium of expression.

[@kanthector]

It's business and money now. Not art anymore. Green screen universes have come in aplenty

[@elizabest4246]

vbgggfff ok boomer

[@raynmanshorts9275]

This scene was from a book, and was in fact shortened for the movie. Movies rarely had such powerful scenes that did not come from books.

[@dreamer2260]

@Deathcoldan Take your disgusting, crackbrained sexism and antisemitism and shove them up your arse, sunshine.

[@Asheghetoam]

One of the best scenes of the Two Towers. There will never be a movie and a cast such as the LOTR ever again.

[@GeneralAblon]

I am holding out hope for the Wheel of Time series. Please, PLEASE be good.

[@mikespearwood3914]

@@GeneralAblon I don't really know much about it, but if modern Hollywood get their way it will be full of "diversity" and "strong female characters" even if not in the original.

[@GeneralAblon]

@@mikespearwood3914 the wheel of time is filled with strong female characters, and diverse characters. So there is no need to artificially inflate it.

[@mikespearwood3914]

@@GeneralAblon Well, that's fine then. They'll still find a way to fuck it up though!

[@stevem2323]

@@GeneralAblon Modern Hollywood can't do it anymore.

[@robertflores7819]

Farewell Bernard Hill. Every scene of his in LOTR was gold. In this huge cast of mega talented actors, his performances were always a level above. All hail the King of Rohan and the actor that made him so very real and so very human, heroic to the end. 😢😢😢😢😢

[@smote_his_ruin]

honestly me and my friends probably quoted him more than anyone, besides Boromir maybe

[@RockSmithStudio]

See this Game of Thrones. This is how you build up a battle!

[@MrPjw5]

GimmeeSomeMo The buildup for the Battle of Winterfell was fine. The actual battle itself and the tactics that Jon & Co. used were dumb as fuck.

[@Giondi]

This trilogy is also a fine example of a character EARNING a kingship. Aragorn stood up for what was right even when it wasn't easy, fought through everything, defended those who were unable to defend themselves, stared down Sauron himself, and was prepared to sacrifice himself at the Black Gate to give Frodo a chance of making it to Mt. Doom. By the end, he was worthy of becoming king, he didn't disappear for a while and then do literally nothing ("Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?" EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING SHOW! No I'm not bitter).

[@stevem2323]

@@MrPjw5 Build up could have been far better, but yes the tactics and the conclusion is awful. White Walkers story was pure disaster.

[@inr9751]

Josh Oh, and he also didn’t lead his entire army into a trap like Jonny the dumbass did in BoTB(well, he sorta did but that was a distraction to give Frodo a chance). He also didn’t fuck his own aunt :P

[@Demonex118]

@Tokyo Drift Yes please don't. Compare it with a song of ice and fire.

[@clyderamirez1]

by far one of the most powerful scenes in the trilogy. peter deserved every award nomination and accolade for the portrayal of this literary masterpiece.

[@EyewitnessHistoryChannel]

@Upcycle Shoes The Hobbit could have been better, but it wasn't terrible.

[@magiv4205]

@Simon Lu. No, the book was great, the movies were shit.

[@ahmet_10]

This scene is maybe best scene of the two towers

[@khalidsaiv6613]

@@magiv4205 its not as good as original lotr trilogy yes, but its not a total shit.

[@alanhigh8125]

Bernard Hill is a national treasure. He has many of the best lines, and his delivery, body language and facial expressions are unsurpassed. He's absolutely thrilling to watch.

[@mignacio8408]

RIP Bernard Hill

[@MikeArts]

This scene just destroys, DESTROYS the Amazon series!

[@princeLaharl2]

How did it come to this, indeed 💔

[@othernerd3841]

I mean the rings of power isnt bad i find it enjoyable.

[@tustari]

My friend this scene destroys any movie made in the last 20 years

[@danieldominguez2419]

​@@othernerd3841its not bad, its terrible.

[@othernerd3841]

@@danieldominguez2419 ok

[@theexpert758]

Rest in peace, my king.

[@LynchByInch]

So much emotion put into scenes in this film, with powerful music and powerful images it really sets the tone and gives you the chills.....

[@aldopolo7]

LynchByInch imagine be a child, in a gigantic room of a Cinema with all the sound at the top... Fuck, that was gorgeous, one of my best experiences ever, hardly any film make me feel like that again

[@h4ppyn0m4d]

As someone who grew up without a father figure.. these movies taught me more about responsibility, love, and purpose as a man in this life. Its the little things that matter, as long as they matter to someone somewhere. Such a great example of the similarities and differences between honor/pride, strength/bravery, and courage/faith. The films give me clarity like nothing else ❤

[@Maria-rz9ri]

Seeing the children being prepared to fight and die was really heartbreaking and emotional

[@felipepernambuco7018]

@kevvale Stowe valhalla

[@viktorszenasi3664]

@kevvale Stowe There is no such place

[@NateB]

They're basically on the eve of genocide of Rohan.

[@Orcrist]

Yup; its interesting, I watched this movie first as young teenager and seeing those kids being armed had very little impact on me, now as an adult I find it very unpleasant.

[@stormysummer162]

This is just something else. Everytime I watch it I have more than goosebumps

[@mpogias13]

It is scenes like this that make LOTR one of the greatest trilogies of our time. The emotion and meaning behind every single verse is just too much. LOTR was in all aspects, a unique masterpiece.

[@goblondie]

+mpogias13 youre right ..It misses in The Hobbit..They are trying to do it here and there in The Hobbit, but its drowning in big battles and CGI..Some of the scenes where it could have been like LoTR they have deleted like the scenes with Thranduil and Legolas in Mirkwood or Bilbo planting acorn in Dale..Its not that I dont like The Hobbit, I do like it, but its just not as epic as LoTR..

[@connerswift7939]

+goblondie i think about it like this. The hobbit is a good movie, just not a good LoTR movie.

[@twinkthatloveslotrtrilogy7676]

@@connerswift7939 exactly Hobbit movies are not on the LOTR level

[@StuartLoria]

Now that, is a king

[@bbssssssssssssssssss]

Im king also!

[@audience2]

His men will follow him

[@Greasy__Bear]

I prefer aragon my reason is summed up later in the same move. Aragon : Ride out with me. Theoden: For death and glory. Aragon: no, for your people. Aragon's priorities are strait even when it is hopeless.

[@Will.Flavell]

Theoden is a better ruler than Denethor

[@zacharysain8516]

Was gonna like but I didn’t wanna destroy the 420

[@zachery2759]

Came here after I recently heard the passing of Bernard Hill. I can’t believe the news! Thank you for everything, our King! We will follow you to whatever end! You were strong in life. Your spirit will find its way to the halls of your fathers. Forth Eorlingas! 1944-2024 🙏🏼

[@zacw812]

The days have come down in the west...

[@TGREAT1]

What do you mean?

[@Jadfitree]

@@TGREAT1lgbt everywhere. 0 moral = Insanity

[@zacw812]

@@TGREAT1 Everything great about western civilization is slowly fading.

[@TheMan05555]

@@TGREAT1Compare cities like Berlin, London, New York, Toronto, Paris, Rome, and Stockholm from the 1950s to today. The west has fallen.

[@TGREAT1]

@@TheMan05555 how it is rising as they potray in media since so many years

[@nikfaizal97]

Rest in Peace, Bernard Hill. What a splendid performance. You will be missed 😔

[@firstnongrata]

Man, the emotional impact these films have on me, even after all these years.

[@zurielsama]

RIP Bernard Hill. Amazing actor and man who really embodied the duty and responsibility of a king.

[@Vampirewolfking]

Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harp string, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning? Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?

[@admiralflynn895]

Ah. Lament for Rohirrim.

[@ihateflags1]

The movie version is better.

[@christopher7398]

ihateflags1 the movie version didn’t change anything lol, they just skipped that part ^ and went straight to the end of the poem...”The days have gone down in the west”

[@ihateflags1]

@@christopher7398 Yes and that part was unnecessary childlike rhyming. What remains is the meaning in the poem which is that prosperity has passed like everything naturally passes.

[@MoonJung82]

There are plenty of scenes from the movies that I choose to ignore when rereading the books. This is one I try to incorporate.

[@AwlriteBOB]

May you rest in peace Theoden, King.

[@jonathanstubbs8158]

In a movie already approaching 3 hours, I’m forever grateful PJ took the time for moments like these.

[@bierdlll]

Pure poetry. Who can write lines like this today? The art is lost.

[@TheJewishAzovMember]

No money in it anymore. I'm sure there are some people writing like this, just no one will give them the time of day since they arnt a son or daughter of someone famous.

[@johi367]

Erikson in the Malazan series gets damned close

[@TheRealFatherTime]

@@TheJewishAzovMember You have no idea just how right you are.

[@zoebaggins90]

It's from the book, but ultimately from an Old English poem.

[@danshotguns4226]

There's still a few good writers out there. They did pretty good with the writing in the first season of house of the dragon. I mean it's not this, but it's pretty darn close.

[@ElliottSmithSocks]

Gamling is such a bro for dealing with Alzheimer kings

[@AndyG0027]

hahaha

[@roddo1955]

Not cool, man.

[@guillee12]

Gamelin*

[@AndrewMRoots]

@@guillee12 Is a French military commander in WWII and has nothing to do with this clip Lol

[@guillee12]

@@AndrewMRoots Is actually the real name of the character

[@jacobvaughn5344]

These movies literally saved my life.

[@twinkthatloveslotrtrilogy7676]

Same..

[@captainl-ron4068]

The helm placed on that child’s head......chills every time.

[@luisjaime2567]

War is war😢😢😢

[@justbychris]

*I'm here after the message that Bernard Hill has passed away and I want to pay my respect! Thank you for playing King Théoden perfectly, you will be missed my King!

[@michawojcik6286]

Without a doubt that is my favourite Theoden scene in entire trilogy. Westu hál. Ferðu, Bernard, Ferðu... You shall not be forgotten ✝

[@thiswaterisdry]

Gamling deserved more recognition, he nailed it, and Theoden stole this movie.

[@roddo1955]

The actor who portrayed Gamling did his job; He's a supporting actor with little screentime and'frames' the main character. The actor's performance makes the main character shine all the brighter. His performance was stellar. Perfect even

[@iainhowe4561]

In a very real way Gamling speaks for us. He says that Theoden's men will follow him to whatever end and later, when Theoden leads the charge with the cry 'Death!" were there any of us that wouldn't have followed?

[@DoffenGG]

So saddened to read the news... Bernard Hill was brilliant as King Theoden, I always look forward to the scenes with him the trilogy. This scene, Forth Eorlingas, when he woke up from Sarumanns grasp and of course the speech in RotK, all powerful scenes. Because of him, his performance. Always remembered, always living on through others, may he rest in peace. Your men my lord, will follow you to whatever end ❤

[@Garl_Vinland]

I like how Gamling got a bit of a spotlight in this scene. It could of been another Aragorn exchange but you get to see the loyalty the Rohirim have for their king.

[@PhilipTrouble]

Aragorn couldn’t have reassured Theoden the way Gamling did. Especially "to whatever end". Even if the battle goes bad and Rohan is destroyed and it’s people killed, they will hold to their king. No matter what.

[@frederickneedle1350]

I feel like the silhouettes of the men moving past the doorway add an amazing cinematic depth to this scene, almost like they are already-dead soldiers ‘passing’ into the halls of Mandos; and all Theoden feels he can do is stand and watch his countrymen ‘move into the West’. He is frozen in fear and indecision but still bound to his duty, and to compare this scene to both his first appearance as a wizened old monster, and the final charge at the Pelennor, where he became a true Lord of the West, is to see Theoden’s character arc and development as one of the strongest in film history.

[@DaggerZ555]

Beautiful

[@james-97209]

I literally just noticed the silhouettes thanks for pointing that out

[@gabrieljarquin1707]

Very nice interpretation, however I would like to point out that Men unlike Elves, are mortal. When they die, they depart to a world unknown even to the Valar

[@nathanmorgan3647]

@@gabrieljarquin1707 Men still go to Mandos' hall before they depart forever. That is how Luthien pleaded with Mandos to say farefwell to Beren

[@mehmed93]

Rings of Power - How did it come to this? 😔🔫

[@tragopan77]

Plastic corporatization of everything, woke subversions, bored wine aunts in HR

[@RayoSombrio78]

Woke turds took over and all was ruined

[@Kanig94]

It's not that bad if you don't compare it to LOTR. Some scenes are pretty okay.

[@ODST_Parker]

@@Kanig94 "It's not so bad if you ignore what's bad." Nah, I'm good.

[@Store_64]

@@Kanig94 if it cannot be compared to LOTR, then it should not have used it's name

[@Force_Of_Habit]

Theoden remains my favorite depiction of a king in a fantasy setting: a man past his prime with no lineage of his own to succed him and, for all he knows, the last ruler his people will have before their extinction. Bernard Hill did an incredible job in this scene showing just how much of a struggle hanging on to hope can be.

[@tztok-fatfuk802]

Rest in Peace my King 😥

[@literatureandfilmaremyjam4592]

And so comes the end of King Theoden of Rohan. May he rest in peace. Thank you so much Bernard Hill! You will be missed 😭

[@jello4479]

I can’t stop crying. Rest in Peace

[@smote_his_ruin]

Seriously, this is hitting me harder than any other celebrity death maybe since like Dimebag.

[@DaveE7492]

Theoden's words combined Bernard Hill's excellent delivery, combined with the back and forth shots of boys and old men being given weapons and putting on armour, with the shots of ranks upon ranks of the brutal heavily armed and armoured fighting Uruk-Hai. Masterful filmmaking and storytelling. Really makes you feel like the desperation and direness of situation, that it's the end times.

[@karinefonte516]

RIP Bernard Hill, may your words always inspire greatness.

[@robsonbobson7839]

In western lands beneath the Sun The flowers may rise in Spring, The trees may bud, the waters run, The merry finches sing. Or there maybe 'tis cloudless night, And swaying branches bear The Elven-stars as jewels white Amid their branching hair. Though here at journey's end I lie In darkness buried deep, Beyond all towers strong and high, Beyond all mountains steep, Above all shadows rides the Sun And Stars for ever dwell: I will not say the Day is done, Nor bid the Stars farewell. Forth Eorlingas. RIP Theoden King.

[@ryaku5]

Who wrote this?

[@jeanlamarc8563]

Such a powerful speech may be remembered. Rest in peace king Theoden/ Bernard Hill

[@cyclingnerddelux698]

He made Theoden. Rest in peace Bernard Hill.

[@michalrojas1206]

A moment of appreciation and silence...Rest In Peace Bernard Hill... :( thank for giving it your all in this scene and every other scene in The Lord of The Rings, Rest In Peace Good Sir

[@TJSaw]

Gamling’s role here is so underrated. He assures Theoden that his people still have the utmost trust in him as king. Theoden must’ve felt like he was fighting a losing battle at this point. He was incapacitated when his son was killed and he blamed himself for that. His kingdom had fallen into decay and his plan of riding out Saruman’s siege at Helms Deep wasn’t going to plan. He had serious doubts about himself as King but Gamling like a trusted lieutenant, affirmed his faith in Theoden as Rohan’s leader. Very well written scene.

[@jvarosani777]

Rest in peace, Kong Theoden....🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹

[@DaveousArt]

Upon reading the sad news of Bernard's death, this speech came immediately to mind. Such a beautiful scene to carry his memory...

[@theoperry6837]

RIP to one of the greatest.

[@anitataylor321]

This speech is so far reaching but with a meaning almost out of reach. I could listen to it endlessly and still feel I want to know more. It is I think, how Théoden felt then desolate and desperate with no hope. The words will be with me always.

[@elliotgale470]

i really like your comment, i get this way about good writing and dialogue, it truly resonates with me too

[@OneMan-wl1wj]

Well said...my feelings exactly.

[@brainwasher9876]

Anita Taylor Some famous philosopher once said that when a man becomes convinced of the hope or hopelessness of his situation, he becomes impervious to fear. Theoden's a very grim character and I think he's mentally gearing up for the long night to come.

[@toadofsteel]

The meaning comes from Tolkien, who lived through World War I. By the end of that war, Britain was sending teenagers and the elderly to fight, because that's all they had left.

[@404Dannyboy]

@@toadofsteel It is actually a reinterpretation by Tolkien of a piece of an Anglo Saxon poem about an exiled warrior called The Wanderer. At this point in the poem he laments all those lost to battle.

[@shawnthompson2303]

*To whatever End.*

[@ChubbyChecker182]

RIP the Great Bernard Hill xx

[@Doc_Filth]

R.I.P. Bernard Hill.

[@japatamniewiem3967]

To whatever end...

[@Klukanty]

@G E T R E K T 905 To whatever end...

[@tentacleshex5347]

@@Klukanty to whatever end!

[@OneMan-wl1wj]

In my humble opinion, this is the best speech In the movie in preparation for the disproportionate odds that would define this battle. This actor nails his lines and his emotional affect is perfect! So profound I almost had it committed to memory after the first hearing! Brilliant movie making!!

[@JohnBradford14]

I will never, ever forget how tightly my mother gripped my hand when they showed the kids..

[@DaggerZ555]

Where is she now ?

[@luisjaime2567]

I kind of cry a little bit on that part

[@NateB]

Genocide is a real thing kids.

[@kinsmart7294]

Its an war for survival. Any able bodied men should take up arms.

[@LordVader1094]

@@kinsmart7294 That wasn't a man, but rather a boy.

[@tyrannosaurus3774]

Rohan was a Saxon-horse nation, always on the offensive, meeting the enemy head on, full of pride and courage, the sight of horse-lord and the horse,trembling the hearts of foes and friends alike, now they are cowering behind the walls of a castle, reminder of the by gone age! How did it come to this...

[@branphillips9546]

Saxon? Hahahahahahaha, no, not Saxon. Cymry. The Welsh traits were divided between the Elves and Rohan with Rohan possessing the Horse Lords while the Elves had the isolationism, language, long memory, and archery.

[@kalondi5722]

@@branphillips9546 Rohan is nothing like the Welsh wtf?

[@Dom-fx4kt]

@@branphillips9546 Rohan was literally inspired by the Mercians, the Anglos Saxon kingdom of the midlands. All from their names, from the dialect they speak. Fact.

[@abelbabel8484]

@@branphillips9546 You're dreaming. The language of Rohan in LOTR is legit real world Old English.

[@alejandroaguilar9223]

Behind the hills....* kid holds his shield and weapon for battle* into shadow... This is poetry. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@Dom-fx4kt]

Inspired by the Anglo Saxon poem the Wanderer

[@Klukanty]

Indeed. Except that poetry is virtually everything. (Yours truly is a mathematical physicist.)

[@Bilingord]

R.I.P Mr Hill :( I Cry every time I see this scene, now I will cry double.

[@jwebber1667]

RIP to our King! What a performance that’ll stand for lifetimes

[@sepptimber9126]

Rest in piece, my lord, my king!

[@ilcorvo9559]

RIP Bernard Hill. what an actor, what a role

[@aakashnash9901]

Rest now in the halls of thy fathers, my king!

[@discojoe3]

He has passed like rain on the mountain, like wind in the meadow. Rest in Peace, Theoden King.

[@zacharyb7952]

When I saw this in the theater, a low murmur of dread passed through the audience as we saw the children being armed and armoured. I'd never read the books and ,doubtless, neither had a lot of the audience so we really DIDN'T know if the good guys would survive this battle. Peter Jackson did such a great job of building the tension and utter fear before the battle of Helm's Deep. I still get goosebumps.

[@alexandersamsonov406]

For me one of the best scene in the entire trilogy

[@JF-78-117-Arbiter]

We will have followed you to whatever end, our friend, our captain, our king

[@alexcortez8909]

"Your men, my lord... will follow you to whatever end."

[@collinsoguike8277]

To whatever end..

[@LusiaEyre]

The way this was written, performed and shot with a room to breathe, draws you like a stage performed soliloquy. There is something special to watching a good Hamlet or King Lear, and in films often, such monologues are overshadowed and downplayed.

[@polikratispassas6010]

RIP king theoden!!!!!!! Hail king of Rohan

[@joshuabodde.6935]

Who’s here after hearing about Bernard Hill’s death? There will never be a trilogy like this again. Rest in peace, incredible actor

[@Juicy_History]

THIS is why the Battle for Helms Deep is greater than the Battle for Winterfell

[@113113andre]

this is the far most poetic thing to say as "we are so fucked"

[@mikespearwood3914]

It's based on an old english poem, so that's why it has a poetic feel to it.

[@NateB]

"Yep. 'To Whatever End' where the end is basically genocide of us and our people."

[@silvermasktraveler1788]

Is he basically saying the glory days of Rohan are gone?

[@itsjustthemo]

@@silvermasktraveler1788 Yes

[@Bek359]

@@silvermasktraveler1788 Sort of? It's like "we used to be so much more than we are now, I thought we were just having a run of ill fortune as a nation and we'd come back from it in a generation or two, but at this very moment I'm pretty sure Rohan as a nation/people/culture won't survive the night, and I'm thinking back through everything I've seen, done, and experienced trying to figure out *how* we got to this desperate situation from the time that my grandfather was king of Rohan and things were pretty all right, and whether I could have done anything to prevent this somewhere along the way"

[@ismailsonmez842]

Rip Bernard Hill