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[@oby-1607]

Really love this video. No bias crap whatsoever. We have both. A 7.3 in an F-250 and a 12 valve in a Crew Cab F-250 and we love both. Most of my friends that have the Cummins love the engine but the rest of their truck have fallen apart, so your video is pretty spot on.

[@ukrarex]

Fummins is the way to go

[@codyhahn6748]

I'm a ford guy and have owned a 7.3. Loved it. But just because the 12 valve is so damn simple to work on its probably the better motor. But the best truck is the Ford.

[@SuperChloeGymnast]

Have had (5) 7.3’s since 1996...still own 3 of them with over 300,000 miles! Still running great never any major problems and super reliable!!!

[@frankiethefrog1752]

Are they still running?

[@trials_bike-xu3xf]

Im a powerstroke guy. My dad had a 7.3 growing up, ive driven plenty of 7.3s and 6.7s and now own a 6.0. But I do love the cummins. Its just the truck around the engine that is not up to par in my opinion

[@alandillon6469]

Fummins if so inclined

[@michaelbenoit248]

Im a Ford guy, so I’d have to go w a 7.3. My first truck was a 1995 7.3, so I’m a 7.3 guy.

[@carter.coleman]

How is the 6.0 goin for you?

[@conwayfox6233]

My dads been a HD mechanic for over 30 years, always been a dodge Cummins believer until lately he learnt more about the ford 7.3 powerstroke, he would much rather the ford, better truck in general with a really good engine and everything els. Tho would be nice to have a Ford obs with Cummins and Alison trany

[@mwright3312]

The 12 valve engine is hall of fame. The Dodge part of the truck not so much..Proud of yall keep building them all!!!

[@xgingabeardx6774]

Hopefully I can win the OBS. Have entered so many of these. Just need a diesel

[@swift__]

I’d clean up the engine bay a bit on the 7.3, and swap out that intake filter.

[@jgreye23]

After following your vids, and listening to my guy preach about diesels as work horses, I’m invested! But I’m a mix, love Fords, Powerstrokes, Dodges and Cummins! Got my entries, hope that OBS gets to go to a good home soon. ❤️

[@dreonwhuds313]

Im a ford guy but any V8 diesel in a passenger truck is a maintenance nightmare. The simplicity of a Straight six wins every time.

[@billyclem8892]

You should make a video on what to look for when buying a obs

[@rjmason1392]

12v all the way, I’m 14 ,saved up my money from restoring a tractor to buy my first truck, 1997 dodge 3500 12v. Your videos are very inspiring and happy to say I’m a subscriber of LNP.

[@tinytproductions6238]

I’m 15, saved up and bought a 1997 Ford F-250 7.3 power stroke.

[@nickfox919]

@@tinytproductions6238 15 might be tough to keep her running unless you have rich parents

[@tinytproductions6238]

@@nickfox919 well, I’ve had her all winter, and now all spring, all I’ve done is do a brake job when I got it and so far I haven’t had to fix anything

[@nickfox919]

@@tinytproductions6238 that's good, hopefully the front end is good for ya. Definitely can get spendy to fix a worn out front end on those old 4x4s

[@mwright3312]

Ford hands down. I.love the channel inspite of the 2nd gens.

[@mcjams66]

I have a 1971 F250 with a Cummins 6bt out of a bus. Less a few minor inconveniences of a 71 truck, I feel like I have the best of both worlds but I love that OBS Ford.

[@jeffreyyeater1780]

Had them both . Got a 24 valve , and a 318 1500 . My 7.3 dually ran fine too. No problems. Even had a 6.9 that ran great .

[@angrygnome4779]

I have one of each. I like them both. They are both different. The 12 valve has much more power potential as can be cheaper to an extent. The navistar will cost more to get more power. In stock form the navistar pulls as hard as the 12 valve. They both have shortfalls. The Cummins has the dowel pin issue in the timing case. The navistar has the oil cooler issue.it also can have cavitation in the coolant passages of the block. Both are a pain to fix.

[@SledPrn6]

Also in later 7.3's (2001.5 I believe they switched), the PMR's instead of Forged Rods. Meaning you can really only push 450hp, before your rods decide to take a trip to the moon. Forged Rods you could push 500-600hp safely.

[@conwayfox6233]

The cavitation is only the 7.3 idi. Not powerstroke, very different engine

[@wildestcowboy2668]

@@conwayfox6233 I'm glad you told that Joe Biden loving gun banning clown off...

[@oliverchumleyjohnson7070]

You should go over the interior as well. I hear that the dodge interior on these older trucks are garbage.

[@brandonwalk77]

12 valve in any application

[@reedsaltzgaber9774]

I grew up with both and i prefer my obs but i like the 12 valve also

[@Phil00661]

I want a excursion with a 5.9 and a Allison transmission, that's what I want to build

[@gmc8099]

I've had my 96 Dodge with a manual 5 speed since 99 it's still a good running truck I had to put a track bar in mine to eliminate the death wobble. And I had to replace the driver's door. And I put a straight pipe on it a few years ago and the fuel was turned up on it which in turn make the clutch slip so I had to have that replaced. The only thing I've done to the engine is get the killer dowel pins issue fixed. And just regular maintenance but this truck pulls all my heavy loads like my bulldozer my back hoe etc. And all my friends that had their 7.3s got rid of theirs years ago and I'm still driving my Dodge. I don't know any details on why they don't have their Fords anymore I just know I'm still driving my Dodge!

[@TylerDuysen]

my dream truck is a 99-03 7.3l powerstroke full 4dr(supercrew cab)4x4 dually but 12v will always win when itcomes to maintanence 12v is mechanical injection vs 7.3 which is oil/electronic injection 12v is an inline six making it easy to servive valves springs rocker arms etc 7.3 is v8 and multiple things have to come off to service things 7.3 has a better turbo but 12v has better flow and access if you ask my opinion base your purchase on what your skillset is or how big your wallet is if you got the money buy whatever if you have limited mechanichal skills get a 12v

[@TylerDuysen]

dont forget all 2nd gen dodge dashes and interior plastic are as tough as paper mache vs the fords you can beat with a hammer and they dont break

[@martinmullins280]

They both are great 👍🏻 I’d be pleased to have either!

[@blakedayton1825]

You should build a excursion 7.3 or 6.0

[@joaquinmireles3912]

While the for 7.e is good I would always chose the 12 value cummins

[@TheDogLife5225]

As for the ford E40D trans, the stock torque converter tends to be it's weak link. Replace with billet 3 disc.

[@isaacdagnan]

Do something about Duramax I just wanna hear what you got to say about the 6.6!! But I've had both 7.3 and 12v loved both!!

[@brenthass5876]

Cummins seems to clearly dominate in the competition truck pulls

[@kylearmitage2886]

I'm a ford guy so I always make the joke that the 12v is so reliable cuz they don't make enough power to hurt themselves but I have much respect for them. Ford truck itself is better than the dodge. better trans. I would prefer a 7.3 because they make better power stock than the 12v and I have more experience with them. everyone loves a 12v for a swap simply because they are mechanical and simple and I don't blame them. both really good engines.

[@nathan1sixteen]

I mean, you're not wrong. The engine was designed for off-road applications, to be used in the crappiest of conditions. It doesn't make crazy power stock, and is insanely heavy for the size. But, that also means you can build the crap out of them and they don't flinch.

[@realkilju]

Perfect combo is to take the 12v and put it in the obs

[@martinmullins280]

It would be nice to win the Red 7.3 old school Ford

[@Methuselah_Man]

Great vid. I have a 7.3. I would get a 12v too in a heartbeat.

[@SweetLou0523]

The best outcome is a fummins. 12v in a ford obs body.

[@jessepond7224]

7.3 for sure

[@1blitzinggramm479]

How about a 7.3 vs 24v cummins? Could add 12v cummins in there too make for a good all around comparison for the time period because they did have 7.3 same time as the later 2nd gens

[@tuckercole1531]

Both are great but the ford is a better truck so the ford is better in my opinion

[@BurbDude]

I love both trucks, but I grew up around 7.3s

[@jonthomsen7433]

Alot of the problems with the rams is that people don't realize the maintenance and upkeep they require. You can't definitely tell when a second gen is taken care of vs when they have been abused. I've seen some really nice well kept 2nd gens gas &diesel and alot of clapped out pos trucks as well.

[@andrewgallagher8519]

I have a very nice 98 ram 2500 12 valve no rust for sale

[@marklaumond5241]

If you live in the upper midwest and drive your unit year round It dosen't matter what you drive the chemicals and salt they put on the road is a death sentence to any truck

[@billgarbutt7844]

The reason people don't do a 7.3 into a Dodge?....why put a great engine into a crap truck?.The 12V goes into a Ford,because its a better all around truck.ill put this awesome 12V in a great truck,thats comfortable and tows better.You Ram/GM fanboys are lucky that Ford didn't do a Cummins in a Ford F-250/350. You would not even be around.

[@alandillon6469]

Agreed😂 a fummins would be awesome!

[@nickfox919]

People don't put a 7.3 into a dodge because they already have a superior platform with the 12 valve

[@traytontratter]

They are both so good and I love them both so much I can't decide

[@jadebrecks]

I have always loved nasty red! I keep an eye out on facebook, craigslist, and this channel to make sure I don't miss my chance to win or buy it. I've watched the videos and seen it running around town and I would give my left arm for it.

[@jashaejoseph3752]

You can stuff a 12v in just about anything respectfully. Only reason it edges out the 7.3

[@ed4709]

12v in an OBS ford #1

[@artgarde.gardelandscapingl5585]

Dude 7.3 idi turbo is close to the 12v Cummings basics

[@justonshields1771]

12,v all day

[@Kebston]

What is the lift height on the 7.3?

[@joehamilton1009]

I love how the ford is the show truck but the cummins is the work truck

[@nicholasarrigo3733]

powerstroke period they run forever and will on dam near anykind of oil and fuel just about and me and buddy did piss off a few dodge guys here in tennessee by put a 7.3 idi diesel in a 49 dodge 1 ton truck because we wanted to build something off the wall and piss off people.thanks - nick

[@wyattcarrender5881]

Get the “ make money not excuses” back in stock I want one

[@fordman2288]

7.3 all day. simple to work on, tuning on the fly, spools bigger turbos, better sound, Not to mention 100 times better truck.

[@samuelw.3992]

Even though the 12v is obviously simpler to work on.

[@Georgespicedaddy]

7.3 wouldn’t be caught in a Chrysler product

[@Goat9998o]

I’m not sure what it is but from my experience I’ve seen way more extremely high mile 7.3s then 12 valves I had a guy come up to me in my 7.3 this week and he told me about his 1 million mile original motor 7.3 and I have had 3 buddies with 400k 7.3s my brothers got 370k on his my friends dad had one with 600k and I’ve just never seen that with their Cummins’s

[@GMbowtie350]

You must not ever be around a Cummins then. You can take a Cummins truck and abuse it, pull, heavy loads, and not change the oil for 30K miles at a time and they’ll still hit a minimum of 400K miles. I hotshot all over the country and drive nothing but Dodges. How many 7.3 trucks you still see pulling loads coast to coast? I don’t see many at all, if any. You still see people working 2nd gen and 3rd gen Dodges regularly. 7.3 isn’t a bad motor but when it breaks down on the side of the road there’s not a whole lot you can do besides call a tow truck. You could pull the head of a 12V on the side of the road if you wanted to. I’ve tried working with 7.3 trucks. There’s just too many nitpicky, stupid problems with them. Cam sensors that constantly go bad, fuel filter bowls that crack and fill the valley of the motor with diesel fuel causing just a continuous stream of fuel leaking, glow plug issues that once bad enough the truck won’t even crank in 60 degree weather without plugging it in. It’s not worth the headache.

[@beauvilcu1280]

7.3

[@edim108]

Overall Ford is the more reliable truck, but Cummins made an absolute masterpiece of a diesel! If only all engines were that reliable and easy to work on.

[@hondaloyal8570]

The only thing the dodge won on isn’t even made by dodge. In my opinion the 2nd gen is a better looking truck though and the Cummins motor makes it what it is. Wouldn’t have an automatic one

[@TylerDuysen]

i can settle this immidiately 7.3 hasmore high milage trucks than a 12v ford is in the lead with one at 2million and counting 12v is only at 1.2 and counting

[@TylerDuysen]

7.3 makes more power and tq too

[@simplysounds8018]

Truck vs truck as a complete package Ford 7.3 over the dodge with the 12v. Motor for motor only 12v. The dodge transmission sucks unless its manual and a lot of rust is almost a guarantee with cheap made interior.

[@oldowl4290]

I'm on the market for one of these but am stuck because Id like to have the Ford but with the Cummins. Will the Cummins mate up to a Ford manual transmission? (like ~95 to 2000)

[@feron450]

I owned a 2nd gen ram, didn’t have a cummins sadly but I had the 5.9 magnum, you couldn’t pay me to drive a second gen ever again.

[@miniatures1]

The 1989 to 1993 dodge cummins trucks are even easier to work on then the second gens.

[@11D7-n8d]

12v cummins would be better compared with the 7.3 idi, and the 7.3 powerstroke vs the 5.9 24v

[@jasonstoltzfus6540]

Please tell me that you are planning on putting a hitch receiver on that Ford. Really enjoy your videos Malachi. Would love to win this truck! Have a great evening!

[@jeffhall768]

6BT all the way

[@reaperhunter7297]

I was thinking of swapping a 24 valve Cummins into my 96 f250. Do you think that it would fit? And would a 12 valve be better?

[@wildestcowboy2668]

12 valve my friend

[@taunuslunatic404]

Simple answer. The best one is the Ford with the Cummins engine.

[@rosendodominguez-dw4rt]

12 is kool .NAY THE 7*3. IS MY LIK.

[@thecrane8449]

12 into the obs ford

[@fakeMbadge]

If I lived in a world with unlimited parts I'd pick the 7.3 idi myself (with a turbo obviously) but if not I'd still take the 7.3 the 12v is a better engine in my opinion but the junky 1st or 2nd gen dodge problems arent worth if to me.

[@taunuslunatic404]

Fummins then.

[@mdmwelding3189]

Hell yeah I love nasty rRED the FLATBED ❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍

[@skal9467]

Fords better dodge is nice I agree but no question fords the better truck hands down.

[@gregd8038]

Your math is bit off on the Cummins for injectors. It’s not 500 bucks. 200 an injector x 6 = 1200 bucks.

[@JohnDoe-ud2cc]

My 97 12valve has zero rust any where.

[@carolinalonewolf9445]

You forgot one thing. The 7.3 with straight pipe just sounds better. LOL.

[@sammymartinez556]

7.3 all day long 👍👍👍👍

[@stacygood4388]

I want the obs

[@gavinhalstead_wolf]

Cool trucks keep it up bro

[@lukelong9796]

How many miles on the Ford?

[@terrygriffith7907]

i like the 7.3 idi fords i like the 12 valve cummins too i just dont care much for the dodge body the old square body dodge was ok i still like fords better for some reason

[@hoffi9327]

PowerStroke

[@cheechtjs]

I'd take the Ford. Cummins is a good motor , but the rest of the truck is garbage .....

[@wannabeetiger]

An 1996 OBS F250 7.3L Powerstroke w/ low mileage is worth it! I have one of these with only 133,000 miles on it! Jet Black '96 ext cab 4x4 5 speed 7.3l Powerstroke. U can see it on my channel, and subscribe to know when it's price tag is ready first!

[@regoguns511]

12v Cummins, it is not even a comparison.

[@TheRossillini]

I owned a 7.3 and I personally believe the Cummins rides better and tows better. The 7.3 is a dog and gets terrible economy imo. The Cummins feels like cab has more room as well.

[@alvarosolano6569]

My father own two ford passenger van a 99’ n a 2000 very strong vehicles I only wish I bought 1995 ford truck n bouth a tacoma instead now I regret it so much ford trucks 1990’s are strong trucks

[@titsterS3545]

The 7.3 Powerstroke (in which I love like better, but that is just my opinion) go higher in mileage and are pure power houses (or you can say stronger) and the down side is that they waste more diesel because they are bigger motors 8 cylinders than the 6 cylinders Cumming

[@dhcooper88]

I'd swap my 6.4 so quick for a 7.3

[@maxhenderson8038]

Firsts gens are much better then second gen 12 valves

[@gregmenniges5963]

I own a 7.3 and I know a 12v all the way.

[@Daniel-sd9fo]

7.3 is better shit dodge falls apart I have both

[@RCAddictdez]

The reason you never see a powerstroke or a duramax swapped into a dodge is because nobody wants the dodge part, only the Cummins part

[@RealTrooperSolo]

#NotificationsSquad #TeamLNP I like the 7.3s but I’ll have to go with the 12v all the way! ❤️👍🏼

[@xtlzone5212]

Cummins is definitely better, unless you have a 7.3 IDI then I would pick it to be more reliable

[@MrCstone1]

there's no engine made thats more reliable than a 12v

[@xtlzone5212]

@@MrCstone1 actually there is, and it’s sitting in my engine bay. It’s a 89 6.6 New Holland school bus motor, that thing is indestructible. I’ve had it in there for 15 years and all I’ve done is oil changes and coolant flushes. Runs like a top

[@MrCstone1]

pretty sure its the only engine with "legendary" next to its name.

[@xtlzone5212]

@@MrCstone1 that I can agree with

[@MrCstone1]

@@Jay4.9OBSESSION powerstroke and reliable have never been written in the same sentence. if v8 diesels made reliable power they would be in a locomotive. thats why everything in any torque application is inline....its not necessarily the name cummins even tho badass is attached its the design of an inline engine. cummins cat whatever. a powerstroke in a tug boat would shit its bed.

[@Op_B_]

7.3 all the way! 12v is overrated and Dodge is garbage.

[@bernhard8540]

People also beat the hell out of the cummins trucks and not so much with the old 7.3's thats why the tranny goes out. The stock dodge trans is fine I own two early third gen rams and one is a 2003 and has 199,000 miles and the other is a 2004 cummins with 374,000 miles and they are both on the stock tranys and I've owned them both since new so to say the trans is bad isn't fair when the bottom end of the 5.9 can take 1,000hp before you really need to upgrade any bottom end parts. Idk any other engine that can take that on a daily basis. So there are a ton of people putting basic tuners and junk on the ram truck and smoking the trans. Those stock tuners are junk they just smash line pressure through the roof and have basic tunes that are not healthy for the trucks at all. A tuner is to compliment power upgrades like a built trans and bigger injectors and turbo and etc.. you don't put a tuner on a stock truck its stupid :) I had several 7.3 truck back in the day and they were good trucks but the 7.3 needs upgrades to really get out of its own way. And it has tons of flaws as well. Where as the 5.9 engine itself is an amazing thing . Thats why the 5.9 is in all sorts of stuff from marine applications to heavy equipment and more. They are everywhere :) I love my obs ford's but there's a reason they aren't the top pick for juicing them up and racing them or doing pulls. Ford kicked themselves hard im sure when they got away from the 7.3. I had both versions I had a 89 naturally aspirated 7.3 regular cab long bed and a 94 extended cab long bed turbo 7.3 along with some other early 90s turboed 7.3's good trucks just not comparable to the 5.9's both trucks rott like there is no tomorrow if not handled properly.

[@johnnymaddox6322]

12v

[@magmacoffee]

Try 300 bucks per injector

[@tormod70]

the cummins soud like a old tractor for me it is the worhst car ever ford f 250 7.3 sound much better the best car in hole world :)

[@davidmattice3752]

Ps the 7.3 real name is 444E