Love and Romance in 5e Dungeons & Dragons and TTRPG

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@WebDM
@WebDM 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, lovers! Want us to whisper more sweet nothings into your ears? Get our podcast on patreon.com/webdm
@OrneryPotato
@OrneryPotato 5 жыл бұрын
Jim got me all revved up.
@cypher4783
@cypher4783 5 жыл бұрын
That assamar is trying to whoe the tefling princess, while the princess is shaking up with the half elf stable boy.
@MarioVelezBThinkin
@MarioVelezBThinkin 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are freaking awesome!
@Sagittarian1202
@Sagittarian1202 5 жыл бұрын
you did such a great job talking on this, romance in game isn't my cup of tea but I'm glad you guys put this out there.
@TheMillsAccount
@TheMillsAccount 5 жыл бұрын
"Good news, Jim! This week you can do the intro in your street clothes!"
@ROYBGP
@ROYBGP 5 жыл бұрын
I DIED LMAO
@davidrodemaker1102
@davidrodemaker1102 5 жыл бұрын
It is International Mr Leather this weekend in Chicago...
@Hopeofmen
@Hopeofmen 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@onnayoung7699
@onnayoung7699 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidrodemaker1102 He needs to lose that white tee. I bet there is so much bear fuzz that you need to role on a forest encounter table just to "give him a hug".
@dragoon4530
@dragoon4530 5 жыл бұрын
Okay I was ready for Pruit's outfit. I was NOT ready for BDSM cop jim.
@timothyvanblarcom300
@timothyvanblarcom300 5 жыл бұрын
I WAS SHOOK
@halsterr
@halsterr 5 жыл бұрын
I was... Shook. ;)
@GramGramAnimations
@GramGramAnimations 5 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t what I expected, but it was what I needed
@kajjak7001
@kajjak7001 5 жыл бұрын
I thought he was one of the village people.
@docartemis2878
@docartemis2878 5 жыл бұрын
Razik Sohma Leather Daddy Jim was a pleasant surprisez
@myopic_cyclops
@myopic_cyclops 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks to our daddy duo for teaching us how to romance in Dungeons and Dominatrixes.
@Lamaart_
@Lamaart_ 5 жыл бұрын
hahahaahhahahaaahah amazing
@DannyDog27
@DannyDog27 5 жыл бұрын
I believe the plural would be Dominatrices
@adamkaris
@adamkaris 5 жыл бұрын
Filet o’ Fish maybe, but it sounds awfully math-y
@ryanparker260
@ryanparker260 4 жыл бұрын
I personally play Dominatrixes and (Bad) Dragons
@ryedj707
@ryedj707 4 жыл бұрын
So that’s what D and D stands for.
@Thirtyleven
@Thirtyleven 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit the Leather Daddy Jim reveal is perfect
@TheNerdySimulation
@TheNerdySimulation 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you guys discussing this with maturity, but not taking it so seriously that it feels like a lecture. It demonstrates that more fun can be had with heads than just cutting them off. ;)
@cameronmusick9575
@cameronmusick9575 5 жыл бұрын
When two dudes that don't even have any feelings for each other can be more romantic than you could ever hope to be
@eldritchmorgasm4018
@eldritchmorgasm4018 3 жыл бұрын
Even a bromance is a better lovestory than "Twillight" 🤗
@thatgenericguy3649
@thatgenericguy3649 5 жыл бұрын
I introduced my players to a tiefling town guard like two sessions in and one PC was completely enamored with him. By the end of the campaign this generic town guard that I just decided was a tiefling was married and a soon-to-be father. Honestly he was one of the coolest NPCs in the game.
@benulrand9137
@benulrand9137 5 жыл бұрын
Was the mother a PC?
@Willothemask
@Willothemask 5 жыл бұрын
Jim makes a VERY good Leather Bear. Which is also a great Druid concept.
@nomnomgoblin8901
@nomnomgoblin8901 5 жыл бұрын
A druid that doesn't take animal forms but magically changes into fursuits of that animal with their stats.
@bazzfromthebackground3696
@bazzfromthebackground3696 5 жыл бұрын
Zing. Damn!
@Licjr
@Licjr 5 жыл бұрын
Frantically writing Leather Bear the Firbolg druid on a character sheet
@emccoy
@emccoy 5 жыл бұрын
@@nomnomgoblin8901 excuse me while I write a new npc for my campain
@Narmoriel42
@Narmoriel42 5 жыл бұрын
One of my players is a lizardfolk moon druid who wears nothing but chaps and turns into a bear. I feel he would very likely have gone straight up leather bear if I hadn't given the option of being a seven foot lizard.
@Majikkman13
@Majikkman13 5 жыл бұрын
when the camera changed angles to reveal Jim's.... what I can only describe as glorious-ness, I could not stop laughing. Once again, A+ work.
@Majikkman13
@Majikkman13 5 жыл бұрын
35:47 "... Dude this is Leather Daddy". Goddamnit I'm dying again.
@kevinsmith9013
@kevinsmith9013 5 жыл бұрын
Get married in 5e! Ceremony spell gives you +2 AC for a week! Power game that romance with a fellow PC!
@petshop5941
@petshop5941 5 жыл бұрын
Right before we were headed towards the final, final thing in RoT, I had my paladin marry someone who they had no attraction to out of nowhere. In the end it didn't matter, but everyone of us was powergaming to fuk anyways.
@jerroldsmith2489
@jerroldsmith2489 5 жыл бұрын
@@petshop5941 our changeling bard romanced and married Ismark the Lesser in Curse of Strahd. My 8 year old child wizard/cleric presided over the ceremony as both the ring bearer and priest.
@TheCinderfang
@TheCinderfang 5 жыл бұрын
It also lasts until death do you part so one revivify later get remarried.
@malogranatum4914
@malogranatum4914 5 жыл бұрын
My DM for a weekly game at a game café has us describe what our characters have done over the week since the previous session and then roll to see how successful we were. This allows for our characters to fulfill some of our individual goals (search for information, gain temporary buffs, develop character arcs), leaving the bulk of the session for us to complete the battle/scenario of the week. Last week, I had my kobold grave cleric officiate a wedding (mechanically using Ceremony) between two random NPC adventurers. The DM only said that the NPCs were a dwarf and a goliath and that they spent their honeymoon just going on an all-out bloodlusty battle rager. I chose to prepare/perform the ceremony as my week-long activity initially just to get more gold (as my character was broke at the start of the session), but then I realized that I could theoretically use that as a social tool by asking if other NPCs were present at said wedding and maybe gain some extra help in figuring out our “enslaved by and used as adventuring gladiators for a megalomaniacal efreeta” situation. Plus it was just kinda nice to have that moment of my character doing some good by helping cement the love between these random characters, especially right after a kind of upsetting/disappointing thing that one of the other PCs did happened.
@sarahdale9968
@sarahdale9968 5 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD THE INTRO! X'D
@gmscott9319
@gmscott9319 5 жыл бұрын
...and the outro! "Are those assless chaps?" "Is there any other kind?" "Fair point."
@cass1857
@cass1857 5 жыл бұрын
In my first long-term campaign my character Leliana accidentally fell for a fellow PC. One of the other player characters died and his new character was supposed to be introduced in this next session. The party was in a bar drinking to our fallen friend when the DM began describing a stunning blonde aasimar woman and my character was instantly smitten. She walked up to flirt with what I assumed was an NPC and when the other player replied instead of the DM it was a pretty hilarious moment. So our characters started their relationship on a pretty flirtatious and cute note. We spent months in a sorta will they won’t they plot playing out on the side between the two of us and eventually it developed into a really beautiful slow burn romance that eventually resulted in his character Sasha proposing to Leliana. It made Sasha sacrificing her celestial powers to save Leliana’s life which ultimately led to her death so much more emotional. I legit cried a couple of times over their relationship beats. Long story short, romance can be a really powerful tool if everyone is on board.
@moodymaranda
@moodymaranda 3 жыл бұрын
That's beautiful 🤧 I love slow burn romance built on a strong friendship/platonic relationship
@cass1857
@cass1857 3 жыл бұрын
@@moodymaranda oh the best part was that the celestials recognized Sasha’s sacrifice and granted her divinity in the next life so she ended up becoming Leliana’s celestial warlock patron when she multiclassed 😭❤️
@moodymaranda
@moodymaranda 3 жыл бұрын
@@cass1857 since I'm still new to DnD and the terminology I'm not super knowledgeable of what a Patron is, but thank you for responding! I can only imagine how fulfilling that story was 😊 (Just realized you posted your original comment 2 years ago, oops 😅)
@cass1857
@cass1857 3 жыл бұрын
@@moodymaranda lol no worries! A patron is a powerful entity that grants a warlock their magic powers through some sort of pact
@moodymaranda
@moodymaranda 3 жыл бұрын
@@cass1857 ooh! I love that it comes full circle like that 👏 I've been struggling with character creation for an aasimar character I have in mind, but it's confusing because I'm not sure how to utilize lore from DnD when it seems so vague? It's hard to explain. I know the pre-written adventures have lore, but a big part of the setting comes from the Dungeon Master themselves. Is there a list of celestial beings that can be referenced when making an aasimar character? Or is it all kind of made up by the DM?
@cork1576
@cork1576 5 жыл бұрын
Jim and Pruitt give "the Behirs and the Beasts" talk on this episode of WebDM
@DarkGrif
@DarkGrif 5 жыл бұрын
The outro killed me. "Are those assless chaps?" "Are there any other kind?" XD
@daveford5683
@daveford5683 5 жыл бұрын
Jurrasicpunk Chaps are inherently assless, so redundant statement there.
@dracosfire7247
@dracosfire7247 5 жыл бұрын
I've always considered Philter of Love to be an inherently evil item, but that hedge case with the two people willingly drinking them in each-other's presence just gave me the idea to make it a standard for arranged political marriages to prevent deliberate widowing for political gain. Suddenly it seems slightly more neutral. Thanks for the idea Web DM.
@EmethMatthew
@EmethMatthew 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, totally!
@rustyshackle8000
@rustyshackle8000 5 жыл бұрын
That's... really fucking smart, actually. I like it when people actually think about magic and everything that it can entail (I call it 'hard magic,' kind of like how hard sci-fi actually uses real science to be an integral part of the world.)
@ColtNomad
@ColtNomad 5 жыл бұрын
My very first character had a love interest, she lasted 2 sessions before the dm killed her. He justified it by saying he needed to give my character motivation to leave home, but you didn't really need to do that because my character was already willing to go and adventure just coming back to the town to visit her until he was rich and saved the world. All my characters until recently were orphans.
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, so your DM subscribed to the "Women In Fridges" philosophy.
@Tb0n3
@Tb0n3 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bluecho4 DM probably didn't want to be flirting with the PC every time.
@peterv367
@peterv367 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tb0n3 Maybe, but there are effective ways of doing that which don't involve killing someone off.
@Tb0n3
@Tb0n3 5 жыл бұрын
@@peterv367 >Your partner has been sleeping around and gave you dragonAIDS. You take 1 reduction to your constitution every 1d20 days.
@ColtNomad
@ColtNomad 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tb0n3 that actually sounds like something my first dm would do. It's why I don't play with him anymore.
@the_knut
@the_knut 5 жыл бұрын
That intro outfit Davis, just amazing!!! Love it!!!
@sebastienschubert2991
@sebastienschubert2991 5 жыл бұрын
Oh myyyyy
@ummacnai
@ummacnai 5 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly awkward......
@josephvickrey5396
@josephvickrey5396 5 жыл бұрын
Most people didn't know this, but Jim Davis was in The Village People.
@calvinbarboza
@calvinbarboza 5 жыл бұрын
One time I roleplayed a womanizer character, after while seducing an NPC I realized I had gone on a 15 minute date with my DM and I never romanced an NPC ever again.
@Grimlore82
@Grimlore82 5 жыл бұрын
I have been that DM. LOL!!
@ericgropuis
@ericgropuis 5 жыл бұрын
I mean I also have a date with my DM because my character was hitting on people at a party and got a date
@calvinbarboza
@calvinbarboza 5 жыл бұрын
OrangeManBad well between my cheesy character voice, his bad girl voice, and his girlfriends awkward stares, let’s just say it’s a night I will never forget.
@chidoman1595
@chidoman1595 5 жыл бұрын
Did u at least say no homo?
@jbark678
@jbark678 5 жыл бұрын
@@calvinbarboza But did you make eye contact with the girlfriend during?
@racekitty
@racekitty 5 жыл бұрын
There's a story I once played a paladin in a detective themed campaign and a enemy we kept running into was a catwoman like tiefling and she never said a word and every time we've learned something new she wasn't far behind but over time my paladin and her develop a batman catwoman relationship that was hostile at first but when he found her injured he healed her and instead of turning her in he let her go and later she helped us get out of a prison after being falsely imprison and after that we found she was cursed to never speak and big bad was her father the ruling noble and a cult leader and after it was over she got her voice back and my paladin and her became the master of defense and she became the master of spies and as long they lived the city was never threatened.
@Grizzlox
@Grizzlox 3 жыл бұрын
And not long after, much like the sentence above, there wasn't a period.
@BlazinMurphy
@BlazinMurphy 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Davis knows exactly what Dungeon Master is all about
@GoldThird
@GoldThird 5 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of having a love interest in your background, one that you're planning to come back to once your adventure ends, possibly after having made the world a bit of a better place and made some fortune along with it. Settle down, have kids, train said kids and others for potentially new adventurers and such.
@michaelwolf8690
@michaelwolf8690 5 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite experiences GMing was a session with local heroes that took on adventuring for bounties as a way to get by in rough times and they started getting ideas about buying an inn and having the easy life. The party leader was married at the beginning of the game and his brother was a literal carnival clown and there was this great tension between and NPC that loves and struggles to support a husband who's taking these risks and just hating one of the other party members who's a horrid influence on him. After the second adventure ward came home from a long journey and found he had a baby girl and his hole attitude changed and he really didn't want to keep adventuring and kept looking for ways not to. The second there was a death in the party Ward just walked away from the adventure in the middle and went home and built a little bar and it was the best end to a campaign ever because all of the players connected with that abrupt stop emotionally.
@FlourEater
@FlourEater 5 жыл бұрын
you take that 1d4 dmg because you like it !!
@Molimo95
@Molimo95 5 жыл бұрын
is it on purpose that you can see the "attack of the clones" poster in the background which is famous for it's groundbreaking, magnificent romance ?
@geoffdewitt6845
@geoffdewitt6845 5 жыл бұрын
It's so weird you guys released this on my my wedding anniversary. Like, you guys have this streak of weirdly topical episodes coming out exactly when I need you to. Nice job, guys.
@cypher4783
@cypher4783 5 жыл бұрын
Web Dm's golden "Rule talk to your players."
@WebDM
@WebDM 5 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed!
@canyonntt6969
@canyonntt6969 5 жыл бұрын
Listen I know that opening was top notch but that ending joke by Pruitt has tears in my eyes.
@Brannen666
@Brannen666 5 жыл бұрын
Life lessons from Web DM. Great to see this kind of frank discussion is out in the culture.
@Grimlore82
@Grimlore82 5 жыл бұрын
Using their voice for the greater good!
@_bats_
@_bats_ 5 жыл бұрын
This might be one of your very best episodes yet! I really like how in-depth you guys go about how this element of the game is so emblematic of such a wide variety of issues in RP. So much good stuff for both players and DMs here.
@WebDM
@WebDM 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you James!!
@ongjt491
@ongjt491 5 жыл бұрын
You can always have the classic Star Trek boot scene where Kirk is about to get it on before commercial and after the break there he is slipping his boot back on ..... we all know what happened n it leaves everything else to your imagination
@wwaxwork
@wwaxwork 5 жыл бұрын
That's how we do it in our game, everything is handwaved & slow dissolve to black as it were.
@ongjt491
@ongjt491 5 жыл бұрын
wwaxwork yep love all the other points Jim and Pruitt made but aware of the caution as well n since the whole point of role play is imagination anyway sometimes a cutaway is much more fulfilling for everyone
@red99Baron
@red99Baron 5 жыл бұрын
YASSS DADDY JIM IN LEATHER MAKING ME SWEAT OVER HERE
@lewispatton6550
@lewispatton6550 5 жыл бұрын
So your character has a fiancee, ambitions, and life goals? "DM smiles maliciously"
@EmethMatthew
@EmethMatthew 5 жыл бұрын
No! Bad DM! Bad! "Jim rolls up a newspaper...
@elijahculper5522
@elijahculper5522 5 жыл бұрын
At my last game session, my DM informed me that my character’s entire family had died in a house fire back in his hometown. It came totally out of the blue and when I asked him why he just killed all of my character’s backstory NPCs, he shrugged and said he just liked sad halflings.
@JStrange13
@JStrange13 5 жыл бұрын
@@elijahculper5522 That is the definition of a bad DM. It is not the DM's job to mess with your character's backstory. That belongs to you.
@John1-17
@John1-17 5 жыл бұрын
Now I’m imagining a green dragon villain for a campaign who, thousands of years in the past, established two noble families with draconic blood who carefully manipulated who their children married so that eventually he can create a draconic sorcerer who is basically the ultimate life form (also the ultimate treasure/weapon)
@montlejohnbojangles8937
@montlejohnbojangles8937 5 жыл бұрын
Also, y'all are just way too well balanced as human beings. That was a seriously level headed and considered discussion. Bravo. ✌️
@AmigoRoberto
@AmigoRoberto 5 жыл бұрын
10/10 would get the talk from Jim and Pruitt again
@Xboxkokoko
@Xboxkokoko 5 жыл бұрын
I met my wife through this game. We even have our head cannon (the game is long over) that our characters got married since they were together in the game as well
@StoicMindproxy
@StoicMindproxy 5 жыл бұрын
Killing PC's loved ones is a very one-note thing that I personally do not find very interesting; unless it fits into the overall storyline and is not used as a gimmick for the sake of having that gimmick. Threatening the significant NPC of the PC indirectly, like placing the village or city that or those NPC's are in the path of some invading hostile force, can lead to some interesting story moments. Getting the PC to make the choice of killing that NPC that is their own loved one, now that is very interesting.
@MikeLeonard
@MikeLeonard 5 жыл бұрын
Sticky subject! 😂😂😂🤣🤣 Looking good in that intro, Jim!
@ZrinNZ
@ZrinNZ 5 жыл бұрын
First: I really wanted to see the ENTIRE episode done with Jim and Pruitt in those costumes. Second: If I learned anything from James Acaster, you're supposed to say "no pun intended" AFTER you say the pun. Third: Bloody brilliant episode. EDIT: About the succubus mention in the episode! If you really want to pull the rug out from under your players, but don't want to do the stereotypical succubus thing, make it be an INCUBUS. A lot of folks forget that incubi ARE A THING.
@memoriea
@memoriea 5 жыл бұрын
Most epic moment in the first campaign I dmed...a player character fell for a npc... He sacrificed himself trying to take on the villain by himself...I let her try to save him with a skill challenge needing 5 different checks..she rolled nat 20, nat 20, nat 20, 12, nat 20....needless to say the characters are together and have two children now....lol... who get three natural 20s in a row?....To acknowledge the nat 20s I invented the sex mechanic...when they , fade to black, .role a d100 and get that as temp hit points.....gets used more to narrate the health of their relationship lol.....lots of funny moments.....
@starstuff84
@starstuff84 5 жыл бұрын
Like any relationship, communication is paramount and from there keep it safe, sane, and consensual. Away from the table RP, especially text based, is often helpful allowing things to develop between characters and keeping the DM in the loop without making other players uncomfortable. And no player should have their PC become pregnant without the players consent. (Yes, it's happened and it was not good.)
@mrmacdingo2155
@mrmacdingo2155 5 жыл бұрын
I NEED to see both "Daddy" Jim and "Tweed" Pruitt do a fusion dance and become my REAL DAD
@kyubii972
@kyubii972 5 жыл бұрын
I had a player in my game a totem barbarian. Who wanted to hire a bard I didn't complete the school of The Bard's so I had the guard be a valor Bard a large hulking woman. He didn't get past the door won beastmaster handshake later they go hang out. Over the course of the adventure his party ends up having to describe to him why it would be unethical for him to slip her a potion of love. He learns. And then flash Forward again he eventually hands her a legendary harp as a wedding gift and proposal . at most all we ever role played was them drinking together and the end result of them wandering through the street playing music together silly things like that. But added to both of the characters. also they both died in the same battle and their souls were returned so the player and the character kind of took it in a spiritual way.
@nerdking5277
@nerdking5277 5 жыл бұрын
no way am I letting my dnd character get cooties
@aethon0563
@aethon0563 5 жыл бұрын
Gonna need a greater restoration...
@mikebarnett1386
@mikebarnett1386 5 жыл бұрын
My family, in real life, is for the most part an explicit and exceptional asset. “Hey dad, I’m working 80 hours this week. Can you draw upon your vast intellect and come up with some ideas for this table I’m trying to build?” And the inverse is true as well. On occasion I have been tapped to divert from the usual adventures and quests that I embark upon as a psych and trauma nurse in a not great city to help them with their issues: “Hey son I need YOU to track down phone numbers for people your mom would want at her surprise birthday party. Can I count on you to acquire this sort of personal information but also be subtle about it?”
@Vinkomorf
@Vinkomorf 5 жыл бұрын
Geeesss, why did you guy change? Doing the video as in the intro would've been epic! Great video as usual guys. Thanks
@Nyx_Avatar
@Nyx_Avatar 5 жыл бұрын
My drow druid romanced Tzindelor the young red dragon in chult My next character was a half dragon which was the spawn of them ^^^
@thekingofgoons
@thekingofgoons 5 жыл бұрын
*confused screaming of a human fighter*
@EmethMatthew
@EmethMatthew 5 жыл бұрын
"You see, son, when two creatures of different species love each other very much, but they both have the lore excuse of shapechanging..."
@Nyx_Avatar
@Nyx_Avatar 5 жыл бұрын
@@EmethMatthew lol the half dragon ended up with lycanthropy so your words are true
@AnnanMoth
@AnnanMoth 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just going to say this: Having the DnD talk from Jim and Pruitt is quite possibly the greatest thing I've seen in a while!
@johnwendel702
@johnwendel702 5 жыл бұрын
And remember always leave room for the DM (/Jesus)
@aidaneddy9146
@aidaneddy9146 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched your content for a while now and I appreciate your commitment to keeping the intros fresh, out of respect for you both I backed the kickstarter for today’s ep, I’m excited to see what continue to create!
@WebDM
@WebDM 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Cawood makes great products!!
@traxthetrashwizard
@traxthetrashwizard 5 жыл бұрын
To my players "Romance" just means "hit on everyone ever, even the people trying to kill you!"
@cameronmerwin8113
@cameronmerwin8113 5 жыл бұрын
I support daddy Jim and all his glory.
@thorinpeterson6282
@thorinpeterson6282 5 жыл бұрын
LeatherDaddy Jim is the best thing I've ever seen. I really suspect it's a Rob Halford cosplay
@FromTheGrave47
@FromTheGrave47 5 жыл бұрын
i like your guys' ability to explore every avenue of dnd and role play
@pimvandijk1587
@pimvandijk1587 5 жыл бұрын
Those intros just keep getting better and better.
@ryanlutrell1120
@ryanlutrell1120 5 жыл бұрын
You constantly kill it on your show! I like you guys stretching your legs with these topics. Keep up the great work! You guys have lightning in a bottle!
@TheoneandonlyLadyJ
@TheoneandonlyLadyJ 5 жыл бұрын
I love romance in games, I was lucky that my 13 year DnD campaign that started in 2E and evolved to 3.5 I had a ten year relationship with a NPC, I still think on it fondly years later. I usually don't get a lot of romance in DnD, but I try. There are a lot of other games though that have great rules for such things.
@justinharris7181
@justinharris7181 5 жыл бұрын
Had a group when we played 3rd edition we had these subjects in our games. Character was a masochist. He was almost never had full hit points so it was not just a roleplay but a mechanical thing as well. We all had little quirks if you will. It was only for one campaign but the actual romance and stuff was there for most campaigns. This is a cool video guys thanks.
@johnhast1979
@johnhast1979 5 жыл бұрын
Jim is a leather daddy. Or he is a big Judas Priest fan. Or both either was ,You do learn something new every day.
@Mystakaphoros
@Mystakaphoros 5 жыл бұрын
This is a *really* good discussion to have! Also, the "lines and veils" system is a good way to kind of formalize consent.
@WebDM
@WebDM 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@SomeDigitalGhost
@SomeDigitalGhost 5 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me more about this?
@Mystakaphoros
@Mystakaphoros 5 жыл бұрын
@@SomeDigitalGhost adventurerules.blog/2018/01/15/the-value-of-lines-and-veils/
@shawnjohnson4732
@shawnjohnson4732 5 жыл бұрын
Dear god twitter makes more sense now. This is everything I needed.
@Ickbard
@Ickbard 5 жыл бұрын
My fiance and I had our characters get married third session in and we have a permanent lesser ceremony affect where as long as we are within 30 ft of each other, we have +1 AC to show we have a bond that strengthen's each other.
@WebDM
@WebDM 5 жыл бұрын
Daww
@phycofox858
@phycofox858 5 жыл бұрын
Interestingly my fighter/bard is totally into the idea of arranged marriage but our dm in my characters fathers voice is like "are you sure you dont want to sleep around to screw that other family out of land rights"
@zacksporen
@zacksporen 5 жыл бұрын
Dungeon Master Jim 'Hell Bent For Leather' Davis
@Offbeaten
@Offbeaten 5 жыл бұрын
How fitting that the movie poster in the back is Star Wars: Ep 2 , one of the greatest love stories ever told... *snicker*
@curtishammer748
@curtishammer748 5 жыл бұрын
"You are in my very soul, tormenting me." - Darth Vader
@NightClubSamurai
@NightClubSamurai 5 жыл бұрын
I have had a very bad experience with romance being forced into the story and was expected to go through with it despite me not having any interest in it, to which instead of the dm calmly asking why I was ignoring that *subplot*, they instead threw buzzwords me. Later on I found that the person wrote a rant about me on their tumblr blog which blew the whole thing way out of proportion. If you like romance in your stories, all the power to you
@TheFearsomeRat
@TheFearsomeRat 5 жыл бұрын
okay... so thats a DM I hope I never meet :P (Click read more if you don't mind light spoilers for Dragon's Dogma) Since here's the thing about Romance for me personally in D&D, Pathfinder, Lancer, etc. I view as a way to create subplots or raise the stakes when it comes to fighting the BBEG look at Grigori from Dragon's Dogma for instance he kidnaps your Love Interest or the character your closest to, to make you face him, then he offers you a choice, leave them behind and you get the Kingdom HOWEVER eventually he will return, or to fight him and attempt to save that person, since Grigori himself more or less serves "destiny"/"fate", since he is the only one who can create an Arisen who then must eventually fight him for more or less the fate of the world.
@grendelum
@grendelum 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion... having worked in a comic/gaming store in high school and college your set brought back a lot of good times 😉
@evanhendrickson3449
@evanhendrickson3449 5 жыл бұрын
I love many things but nothing compares to that intro!
@BarokaiRein
@BarokaiRein 5 жыл бұрын
This is actually really interesting timing,just now I joined a great pathfinder group and for the first time in my entire gaming history I've witnessed romance. Basically two of the players just decided that their characters would be married,right from the start of the game. The first time I played with the group I was like ''Oh those two are married? That's pretty neat.'' I must say that the girl who's playing the swashbucklers wife seems to be a lot more into it than the guy playing the swashbuckler though.
@nickyharte6668
@nickyharte6668 5 жыл бұрын
I actually had a player (i was dm) who acted like a wounded puppy at my feet. He kept flirting with NPCs but it was unhealthily obsessive. Eventually his character starts dating an essential NPC so they (and more specifically, I) could not escape. It got creepier and creepier and I was uncomfortable, told him to tone it down, he didnt, and luckily story reasons allowed for me to have the NPC break up with him. He was genuinely upset, lashed out at others, and almost suicidal. At the end of the day, there was more stuff outside of game and he was a narcissistic abuser and we ended up kicking him. Im glad you guys talked about setting boundaries out of game because they really REALLY are important. My and my friends game online and over the course of a year (this creep included) we've had two narcissists, and one person who rules lawyered so agressively he would scream and shout and when i told him he was kicked after strike three, he essentially held us hostage for 4 or 5 hours saying he was going to kill himself.. And something people dont talk about often is how to handle abusive or manipulative players and get them out or talk them down. Its uncomfortable, yes, but most of the players i know are already insecure and can allow the abuse to continue for longer than it should. I guess I really just dont want others to go through this same thing, but there are no videos on how to handle it.
@WebDM
@WebDM 5 жыл бұрын
So sorry you all had to deal with that. If you're looking for more guidance about how we have dealt with this kinda stuff personally, we made a playlist for all the videos we have about table problems. Check it out: Table Problems: kzbin.info/aero/PLNnRdBIGJX6xi2St56a61H8fgtq2SIfpP
@nickyharte6668
@nickyharte6668 5 жыл бұрын
@@WebDM thanks so much! It means a lot, truely!
@soulibon633
@soulibon633 5 жыл бұрын
Love seeing the Star Wars FFG books in the background. Great game and great videos, guys. My players recently took in the idea of two PC's having a romantic relationship and now they're planning on playing their twins in the next campaign. This was an excellent video and very helpful.
@WebDM
@WebDM 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@badger6728
@badger6728 5 жыл бұрын
Jim's Mister Slave cosplay is the best thing I've seen all week.
@crossthreaded6867
@crossthreaded6867 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the intro was gonna zig, and then it zagged.... Well done lads
@Minigiant100
@Minigiant100 5 жыл бұрын
You really have been churning out the videos recently. It is so good
@WebDM
@WebDM 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kingzant99
@kingzant99 5 жыл бұрын
Recently, I played a campaign of Curse of Strahd where the purpose was not for us to kill Strahd, but for our Bard to marry him and bring him to the side of good. Their wedding is happening next session!
@aerynh6116
@aerynh6116 5 жыл бұрын
My character Kallista, a fighter barbarian, and another character, Amnon, an archfey warlock, were shipped so fiercely by our fellow players that is became a running gag. Kallista was a ball of snark that had little use for the somewhat flowery ways of Amnon (she was raised in a gladiatorial pit after all) so when she jokingly called him "Jashin", a term for a handsome man, as a joke following yet another woman flirting with him, it became the goal of the other players that Amnon and Kallista would end up together. Eventually, Kallista did start to develop genuine feelings for Amnon, finally admitting to having them in the second to last session of the campaign as of now, and leaving Amnon at a complete loss of how to approach this potential relationship. He's such a precious boy that doesn't quite know how to deal with Kallista. Which is so much fun.
@johngleeman8347
@johngleeman8347 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, I wanted Pruit to wear the 50's fuddy duddy Dad outfit the whole time. XD
@ianiles1722
@ianiles1722 5 жыл бұрын
I DM Adventurers League in Manhattan, NY and have a very diverse group of players. I appreciate your attention to this subject, even though it honestly only comes up rarely, except with table banter (Floon anyone?). This is one I will listen to twice.
@Tharrel
@Tharrel 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, thanks for doing this. I think sex in rpg is becoming more common, but most youtubers seem scared to say anything about it. I'm happy you included things like the x card and lines and veils
@WebDM
@WebDM 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Romance is definitely one of those things that there are better and worse ways to do, so we wanted to talk about it!
@BNRmatt
@BNRmatt 4 жыл бұрын
First of all, bravo for going the distance on the costumes. One of my most fulfilling arcs as a DM was when I played my Weird War One game with my then real life girlfriend. Her character had a fiancee (thanks to a semi arranged marriage, they were aristocrats). It was complicated- he was smitten, but she was secretly a lesbian. They were also genuine friends, even if it was purely platonic on her part. Yes, he needed to be rescued a couple of times. But he was an asset to the party and roleplaying out the stuttering awkwardness between them was hilariously fun. By the end of the campaign, they arrived at an understanding and went their separate ways and it was bittersweet. In my current 5e campaign, my wood elf character was just proposed to by a wood elf NPC. The DM has setup that, in this world, lovers challenge for each other's hand at the annual clan gathering and I expect shenanigans. I'm really looking forward to exploring this new aspect of roleplaying.
@Pandaemoni
@Pandaemoni 5 жыл бұрын
I find as a player I am often of two minds. On the one hand, I know from experience that having relationships in game (not just romantic ones, but those too) adds a tremendous amount of depth and satisfaction to the game in the long run. (That's true even if they are threatened in some way. Saving your sister from bandits is always more engaging than saving "the quest-giver's daughter.) On the other hand, on an emotional level, there is that part of me that wants to avoid relationships because of the tension that those situations can create. That, despite knowing that the tension is ultimately rewarding. That reward easy beat can't quash the risk aversion I feel, because you can't dismiss the feat of loss with a cost-benefit analysis. As a result, I have the urge to be risk averse despite knowing that it could make the game less fun.
@feanorfeuergeist
@feanorfeuergeist 5 жыл бұрын
I once got myself impregnated as a priestess of Pelor for 10% off in the dudes shop , didnt remember women get pregnant , DM did....
@4thHogage
@4thHogage 4 жыл бұрын
Use protection.
@dylanlewis3038
@dylanlewis3038 5 жыл бұрын
Have you guys thought of doing a video on the Blood Hunter class on D&D Beyond? It’s technically homebrew, but from my understanding several WOTC people helped with the revisions to it.
@fhuber7507
@fhuber7507 5 жыл бұрын
We have a married couple in the current game group... she keeps saying she wants her husband's character killed so she can loot his corpse.
@thevoidcritter
@thevoidcritter 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, true love.
@cass1857
@cass1857 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I feel that. My husband and I play in the same game and my lawful neutral bounty hunter rogue butts heads with his borderline senile chaotic wizard all the time and we love it.
@WebDM
@WebDM 5 жыл бұрын
True love
@DevsDice
@DevsDice 5 жыл бұрын
OMG guys! I love the intro and the contents! You guys are freaking awesome! :)
@theonlymatthew.l
@theonlymatthew.l 5 жыл бұрын
You gentlemen got a thumbs-up from me based on the intro alone. Well played.
@johnlowkey359
@johnlowkey359 5 жыл бұрын
Crazy timing: I was just polling folks on a forum about how they handle romance at the table!
@sidleyparkhermit6391
@sidleyparkhermit6391 3 жыл бұрын
This whole discussion around 12:08 is SO smart. I can't stand it when DMs just see the loved ones in a PC's life as something they can take away, but I'd never made the connection before about that DM style encouraging people to make more orphan murderhobos. It's got me thinking about my players and that I should make sure to tell them that, yeah, D&D is a dangerous world and there are conflicts and dramatic things will happen, but I'm not out to punish you for forming bonds, that's not my idea of a good time.
@GrayStudios
@GrayStudios 5 жыл бұрын
People getting together because their characters did........ Never heard of it!
@loxodonwizard9867
@loxodonwizard9867 5 жыл бұрын
Too soon
@bennitori4
@bennitori4 5 жыл бұрын
@@loxodonwizard9867 I'm scared for what will happen on Tuesday.
@AGrumpyPanda
@AGrumpyPanda 5 жыл бұрын
The best relationships are always the ones you don't plan. You never know who you're going to find that's a perfect match for your character.
@quintonlore8531
@quintonlore8531 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing intro as always. I haven't watched in a while and Jim, you looking good!
@CarronBarboza
@CarronBarboza 5 жыл бұрын
The moment the cut out to show Jim Davis I died.
@TengvallCompany
@TengvallCompany 5 жыл бұрын
Best intro so far! And that's saying a lot.
@shaden489
@shaden489 5 жыл бұрын
Playing through tomb of anialation was orginally gonna make my swashbuckler a huge womanizer but changes my mind when I couldn't come up with a back story that inspired me so I changed him to having found a wife that caused him to leave his life of crime and debauchery and I definitely think it was a change for the better as it helped give him more agency in the story
@teiabutters7732
@teiabutters7732 5 жыл бұрын
I really feel like you missed an opportunity by not calling it "Rollmance"
@biancabrooks280
@biancabrooks280 5 жыл бұрын
Teia Ostrander or maybe Rolemance.
@danielsandefur7364
@danielsandefur7364 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys! You guys are hilarious and have influenced my games for a while. Have you ever looked into the Stars Without Number System, I think Pruiett would love the old school Sci-Fi setting.
@WebDM
@WebDM 5 жыл бұрын
Not yet but we have heard good things and want to try it out!
@Langston42
@Langston42 5 жыл бұрын
Jim has me dead in that outfit. You guys are way too good.
@Silverwake1
@Silverwake1 5 жыл бұрын
"Want to see us play?" I kind of feel like I just did :P
@tonyvoegtlesquirrelpunkmag9768
@tonyvoegtlesquirrelpunkmag9768 5 жыл бұрын
So was the intro inspired by the book of erotic fantasy from the 3.5 days?
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