Love the Band, But Hate the Hits

[@douglasboggs85]

Sometimes the hits draw you in but the deep cuts keep you around 🤘

[@jonrhythm3686]

Good point.

[@WhatsWrongWithTheStreet]

Well said.

[@jwoods6456]

💯x💯 can’t say it better

[@paulklimo2396]

Excellent statement!!

[@CatastrophicG]

Totally agree 👍👍

[@jayfabe620]

Skynyrd. Most people only know Freebird and Sweet Home Alabama, but their catalog is so rich. One of those bands where if you are a fan, every song is a classic. The deeper the track, the better.

[@jayfabe620]

@MrBrenman I don't hate them, but they are way overplayed. I'm from Jacksonville and local rock radio would rarely play them because of the oversaturation. Seeing a Skynyrd show here is town is awesome because everyone know every word of every song. Out of town, you get the befuddled look when a song like Working for MCA or On The Hunt is played.

[@stephenbrown4211]

I still love Freebird but Alabama gets boring. In the UK you’d think they were the only songs Skynyrd ever wrote and most stations only play that crap four minute version of Freebird. But you’re right their catalogue is classic

[@petervanbuskirk500]

I never liked Sweet Home Alabama either.

[@dandogful]

Skynrd deep cuts are the best. I aint the one, gimme back my bullets, down south jukin. And others. Gimme 3 steps boring and over played free bird too i agree with you.

[@jayfabe620]

@MrBrenman the songs are good the first 100 times you hear them. I never have to hear either ever again.

[@randolacle]

There is a difference between not liking a hit, because you just don't like it .... and not liking a Hit, because it was a huge hit, but too overplayed, so much that you just can't stand it anymore.

[@Jay.McCarty]

Pete's pretty clear on the difference between the two. He kinda ran up against it with Pyromania though. Almost every song was huge.

[@123vid321]

Great point

[@scottmcgregor562]

I think that you are right. Queen and Styx to my ears. All their songs that are playing on classic rock radio I never need to hear again. This is what totally drove me away from classic rock radio (along with every other band that gets played on those types of stations).

[@sameoldeh]

@Egbert Randolf Lacle Well said.

[@dawnpatrol700]

Boston's first album is that way. Radio played every single song to death. I have to remind myself that I loved all these once upon a time, before radio murdered them by cashing in. I like to watch reaction videos, where kids react to old music, just to see if they feel the same way I used to.

[@joshdieckmann595]

"Roundabout" is worth listening to for Chris Squire's elastic bass work alone. So much fun to hear him go off.

[@itkojecockot]

exactly...... one: it was never a huge hit that would haunt everyone for decades, like some other hit songs...... second: it's a brilliant song(just like the rest of the record)

[@dsallen7914]

@@itkojecockot I think it's also acquired some new fans thanks to Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.

[@corleth84]

'Roundabout' is good, but 'Heart of the sunrise' is the pinacle on 'Fragile', imho.

[@biorythmicshifter]

Heart... is a crown jewel of their entire discography.

[@MrLtia1234]

@@biorythmicshifter You mean Hearts from 90125?? :-)

[@keithbk]

"Awaken" by Yes in incredible. And the epic nature of "Gates of Delirium" stretches your understanding of the near-infinite variety Yes was capable of producing. I cannot stand "Seen All Good People." Just pure repetition and overplayed. I'm glad Yes had a chart-topper with Owner of a Lonely Heart (they deserve it), and 90125 was a great album, but it was a totally different animal from their prog greatness.

[@midohiobuckeyeaorwarrior9743]

I'd say "South Side Of The Sky" is the pinnacle on "Fragile."

[@mck7646]

@@midohiobuckeyeaorwarrior9743Yes.

[@hanksta34]

Two friends used to tell me back in the day that there's more to Blue Oyster Cult than "Don't Fear The Reaper" and more to Priest than "Living After Midnight"

[@patrickcurry8073]

Absolutely true. I do like BOC's hits along with the deep cuts, but most Priest hits aren't among their best. Breaking the Law and Painkiller are the only exceptions I can think of.

[@MrTarkus1]

Scorpions....djeee...those late 80's and 90's singalong ballads.

[@Jay.McCarty]

"Wind of Change" is the absolute worst.

[@mikem.7921]

I ignored the ballads because the rockers are great

[@starglasses76]

Totally agree

[@MetalMan73100]

@@Jay.McCarty Close, but White Dove is even worse.

[@williamgainford9332]

i think is this love just as bad - if not worse lol - cringefest also !!!

[@supra865]

Pete,your youtube broadcasts are better than most of the TV shows. I love alot of the unique topics you come up with that alot of us listening to these bands have faced for years.

[@robertcooper411]

It wouldn't bother me if I never heard "Smoke on the Water" or "Stairway to Heaven" again.

[@dietersmit6639]

Agree. It is tiring like sweet child of mine and enter sandman.

[@josephdefilippis07]

As well as Hotel California, Thunderstruck, Welcome to the Jungle, and any Motley Crüe song

[@WhizzRichardThompson]

Trouble is they're all great songs but massively overplayed

[@markandersen793]

@@WhizzRichardThompson It's a double edged sword, a song you started out loving, you end up hating.

[@WhizzRichardThompson]

@@markandersen793 Correct. That's one reason I don't listen to music on the radio. They inevitably only play singles (of all genres) which we've all heard oh so many times. Album tracks are almost never played, and they're usually the best tracks on any album.

[@donmoore7785]

I am not a person that generally hates hits, but I appreciate this discussion as I appreciate everything on this channel.

[@DrJimmy88]

Aerosmith, especially after 1987. But if I never hear Walk This Way nor Dream On again, that's okay too.

[@brianmiller1077]

Every Time I hear "Dream On" or "Walk this Way" I ask myself why aren't they playing "Nobody's Fault"

[@WhatsWrongWithTheStreet]

@@brianmiller1077 Or, how about Get The Lead Out from Rocks? Or Combination from Rocks, too.

[@timothyfuller4299]

If you want to hear the 70's Genesis material live, check out a Steve Hackett concert.

[@seaoftranquilityprog]

Yep, absolutely!

[@zeelias_zezito65]

Specially "Genesis revisited".

[@ScottyKirk1]

Steve Hackett actually played with a Genesis cover band a few years ago. Name escapes me. But it was excellent I remember that much. Anybody recalls, please post it. Thanks.

[@kristopherloviska9042]

Seen him four (five?) times in the few years before the pandemic. Totally great shows.

[@jstaversky]

Yesss!!!! All the old tunes played with energy and power at a fraction of the cost of a Last Domino tour ticket!!!

[@angusiha]

That reminded me the last Hudson Valley episode - when Pete said he got a compilation by The Cure and hated it. The Cure is that kind of band. The hits are ok (sometimes great), but the deep tracks are the real deal. Although, I don't think Pete would like The Cure for the deep tracks anyways.

[@starrage7926]

The Cure have come up with some fantastic songs - Never Enough.

[@marguskiis7711]

Cure's hits are sometimes better than full albums.

[@benedictstutt8487]

I hate venemously Friday I'm in love, have always but Pictures of you which I have listened to many times is very beautiful.... and sad

[@anypoxynames]

If I never hear Friday I'm in Love, again, nuff said...

[@chrismecklin1710]

Another band that Pete hates and I love that fits the bill is R.E.M. I despise "Shiny Happy People" and I'm pretty indifferent to some of their other singles, but the R.E.M. catalog is chock full of great deep tracks.

[@fourseasons4105]

Don't hate any of these bands hits but just prefer their deeper tracks better: 1. Led Zeppelin 2. Frank Zappa 3. Metallica 4. Genesis 5. Iron maiden

[@lordprefab5534]

I heard "going for the one" never bought another Yes record I heard "long live rock and roll no more Rainbow I heard "spot the pigeon ep" no more Genesis

[@DavidLazarus]

Wait! Frank Zappa had a hit? Was it Muffin Man? :^D

[@jeffreycoy]

@@DavidLazarus Valley Girl 🤮

[@ScottyKirk1]

Haha 😂 Zappa actually had that "Strickly Commercial" CD of all the songs that you will skip no doubt!

[@DeadSeaGenesis]

Genesis TIOA 2007 Tour proved your point, Pete! Watching the fans around me dying & crying waiting for the Collins' hits when the band were dropping Behind the Lines, In the Cage, Ripples, Cinema Show was hilarious! Only wish they played Abacab instead of Domino because the band was never was going to play Supper's Ready in its entirety again....

[@ronaldfleischer7675]

Late answer but anyway…had that 1992, around me couples waiting for the Hit Stuff, many i guess were not able to tell Collins‘ Solo Stuff from Genesis apart, interestingly in 1987, that was different, but 1992, i don’t remember that very well.

[@chriscleveland3123]

I'm a huge Priest fan (from the beginning)...and personally I like "You've Got Another Thing Coming"...just saying.

[@davorbrijacak]

Me too. I think some of those hits I can always listen to because in my country they're not as famous and overplayed as it was in US perhaps. I'd still rather listen to deeper cuts and fan favorites but I don't mind Priest hits.

[@sex6cult9revolution]

Me too. I think Priest was a bad choice.

[@mikem.7921]

The recent live versions are fantastic with tons of enery

[@Cour-des-etoiles]

i personally wouldn't mind if they never played Breaking the law and You've got another thing coming.. as i never cared for these songs, even back then. Living after midnight however, i did like. Now, after hearing it a million times (which is often the reason why we start disliking hits), i often will pass on it. However, they were right with some of the other picks that were made for ''singles''. Johnny B Goode was horrible. I might be one of the only fans that really likes the Ram it down album, but i've skipped this song every time since i bought the cassette (skipping songs on cassettes, flashback to how annoying that was). :) They did come out with some great singles however. Painkiller anyone?

[@Kongorlobo]

I think is a great radio-oriented song, a lesson of how a commercial 80s metal song should be done

[@captainbeyond7469]

Very interesting show. Queen is a great example. Love the hits but it’s amazing how many people have never even heard Queen I or Queen II which boggles my mind. IMO both those albums are masterpieces with Queen II being one of the top five best albums ever made.

[@godless_goddess5985]

1000%. I do still have a lot of love for the hits, but you're dead on with the first two albums. I mean "March of the Black Queen"?! "News of the World" too, with fantastic songs like "Fight from the Inside", "Sleeping on the Sidewalk", and "All Dead, All Dead".

[@captainbeyond7469]

@@godless_goddess5985 Thanks 👊

[@dashiellsisson9263]

March of the Black Queen is a masterpiece. I also love Sheer Heart Attack and some of the deep cuts off of A Day at the Races.

[@treffbennett6534]

Dead on, comment, my friend! I put SHEER HEART ATTACK with those music treasures. I only wish they would remaster those early Queen albums-sonics are very thin and neutered.

[@youtoo2233]

So true, love Great King Rat!!

[@Norshammar72]

Congrats! Well deserved! Thanks for all the good work Pete!

[@daviestallow]

You make a perfect point concerning Yes, Pete. My sister got tickets to Yes in 2012 and asked me to go, which I happily agreed to. It was a great show, though a venue was a bit small for them and their sound. Still, I enjoyed the concert. They played a lot of their old stuff, none of the song from the eighties and beyond. My sister was expecting, though she didn't say, them to play Owner of A Lonely Heart and so on. When they didn't, she asked me if I wanted to leave. I told her no, I wanted to see the show. She spent the majority of the concert on her phone or sitting, looking board. After the show, she acted as if it was the worst concert she'd ever been too and even apologized for taking me. I just do not understand how most people can only love a band for a few simple songs that have been worn out by the radio. It's sad.

[@dancalmpeaceful3903]

It's quite interesting how some people are like that. The best thing with a band like Yes, was always be wide open and be willing to hear anything and everything. She would have probably liked the more recent "Anderson, Rabin, Wakeman" tours they did a few years back...

[@robertmcmahon3010]

Golden earring is criminally underated being recognized for 2 songs

[@marsman8627]

You are so right, Golden Earrings catalogue is as good as anyone!

[@TimmyTantrum]

I whole-heartedly agree. I bought the complete albums collection they put out a while back, and am just now finishing up going through it all. GE are so underrated it's a shame. So, so much more than their two hits.

[@dancalmpeaceful3903]

Just got the new "Moontan" re-release with the extra CD......it's got some really good stuff on it! I would recommend it from what I"ve heard so far on it.

[@TimmyTantrum]

@Jax Teller Can you stop bitching and go check out some Golden Earring? 😆

[@dancalmpeaceful3903]

@Jax Teller No....I would say Joe Biden is one of the stupidest things ever. His son is a criminal..that I do know.

[@diannecarpenter7718]

Wow!! I’m looking forward to, The Sweet ‘ Rebel Rouser ‘ book!! Thank you, “Martin Popoff “ for mentioning this book!! I appreciate it!! I love SWEET!! Long live SWEET forever!!🎼🎤🎸🎵🥁

[@treffbennett6534]

Desolation Boulevard and Give Us A Wink rock hard! Dig all the catchy early stuff as well! UNDERVALUED BAND! Musicians know the greatness of Sweet-a helluva lot of their tunes have been covered by many bands!

[@diannecarpenter7718]

@@treffbennett6534 I agree with you!!🎤🎸🎵🥁

[@josemiguelibarapablaza2495]

I totally agree.

[@rotadyma]

Two of my favorite bands I can't even listen to their hits.......but love their catalogues......Winger and Europe.

[@aviationlba747]

Absolutely. Europe are great, but I never need to hear Final Countdown or Carrie ever again.

[@Daniel-415-Ponce]

David Bowie has got to be the king of famous artists who have extensive back catalogs of quality music mostly unknown to the general public. Every time I hear some Boomer or Gen Xer extol the songs "Suffragette City," "Rebel Rebel" and "Let's Dance," I know I am dealing with a poseur who has never really bothered to listen to any of Bowie's albums in their entirety.

[@rickandroll63]

Agree with the second two but not SC. Let's add Jean genie too, good choice Bowie.

[@scorpiorising3741]

Sort of like a GenZ or Zoomer that think they know it all. Yes; super annoying. I know people from your generation that just like the hits of classic artists. It's not a generational thing. You are not special.

[@scorpiorising3741]

And also Bowie has lots of shItty albums Fact. And Tin Machine sucks while I'm at it.

[@phoneboxchicken4108]

I don't have many Bowie albums, but I do like Joe the Lion and A Sense of Doubt as much as Heroes.

[@craigusselman546]

@@scorpiorising3741 Tin Machine was bad on purpose.

[@Joorum]

Stranglehold by Ted Nugent used to be a song that I was indifferent to until one time when it came on the radio when I was driving alone at night and the long bass sequences made for some killer atmosphere. Quite literally, as it made me feel like I was a hitman out on a job or something, instead of just driving home which is what I was doing.

[@BackwoodsFilms]

That song will forever be his shining moment. I haven't really followed him for decades now, but that track will live in guitar infamy forever.

[@bobthebear1246]

I hate Ted Nugent - especially as the poor excuse for a human being that he is - but "Stranglehold" deserves its place as an all-time classic epic groove rocker.

[@spdaltid]

Yeah! I just heard this again recently and it blew me away

[@robertcooper411]

@@spdaltid Definitely his best song though Fred Bear is pretty good even if it does sound like a rip off of Rory Gallaghers Shadow Play..

[@treffbennett6534]

Joorum-so you're sayin' Stranglehold is good " killin' folks dead " music........you and I are NEVER going to a Nugent gig together!

[@briandunlap8534]

I think Thin Lizzy qualifies for this. The Boys Are Back In Town and Jailbreak are about all you're gonna hear on the radio. Even Cold Sweat (minus a jaw-dropping solo) isn’t as impressive as this band was capable of being. They have tons of songs better than these.

[@starrage7926]

I wouldn't say I hate those songs though - they are three stone cold classics. Thin Lizzy do have some great stuff that you never hear on the radio though

[@petetobey3933]

wholeheartedly agree on Thin Lizzy. One of my favorite bands, but damn, I've heard those two songs long enough for a lifetime... Give me Cowboy Song, Black Rose, Emerald, etc.

[@briandunlap8534]

@@starrage7926 I certainly don't hate those songs either, but they have so many that are better.

[@johnnyconners7766]

Roisin Dubh, 'nuff said !!! Pure freakin genius !!!

[@starrage7926]

@@briandunlap8534 and a real variety too. I love later stuff like the Thunder and Lightning album and the folky stuff, and even Sarah. A personal favourite is do anything you want to do (the sentiment means so much to me). But strangely I have never liked Emerald - and that's a big fan favourite.

[@christopherstumbers5906]

Cheap Trick would have to be my pick. We hear the same 2 songs over and over.... yet spin the Dream Police album and every song is a friggin mindblower.

[@ryangioia2358]

Journey - Don't Stop Believin' Queen - Another One Bites the Dust Def Leppard - Pour Some Sugar On Me Aerosmith - I Don't Want to Miss a Thing Scorpions - Still Lovin' You Led Zeppelin - Dyer Maker AC/DC - Moneytalks

[@1megawhite]

Awesome show guys, love it. Also im from Wales so nice to here Martin give the Manics a shoutout too!!

[@michaelmerrullo2043]

Bohemian Rhapsody came on my radio recently while driving and I ended up flipping the station. It’s just one of those songs like Stairway, Foxy Lady etc that I never need to hear again 🙄

[@markmcilroy]

Europe 💯% they have such great material but a lot of people just know the hits such a shame, one of the most underrated band's ever

[@michaelsmyth3935]

Caught them live, way better than most know.

[@tball5677]

🤣

[@lordcharlesthomas]

15:37 funny you mentioned that Pete cause I was on the bus on a school trip once and I was playing music on speaker at the back with my mates and a couple girls asked me to play Queen (this wasn't too long after the biopic came out) and I put on Ogre Battle and their faces where just like "what the hell is this crap"

[@jockmctodger]

🤣

[@thomasbonnett4800]

Queen II is my fave Queen album ever. Hard to believe that’s the same band that recorded Hot Space.

[@jockmctodger]

@@thomasbonnett4800 I also love the Queen 2 album

[@lordcharlesthomas]

@@thomasbonnett4800 my favourite could change at any time but Queen II is definitely a contender

[@lordcharlesthomas]

@@jockmctodger they were even more bewildered when Fairy Feller came on lool

[@DukeEnlil]

As a Queen fan, started with hits, around 10-11 years old, but going deeper in their catalog...so many hidden gems! Also I heard that The Show Must Go On was not very popular hit in US, but here in Europe, especially in eastern Europe it was playing from everywhere! And according to Brian May, his favorite Queen song is The Miracle!

[@pauladams9287]

Thumbs up for deep cuts 👍

[@Maximillian200HP]

Pete's speeches about people who only care about the hit songs of a band really speak to me. Whenever I was in high school (It still happens now too) and someone mentioned they loved one of my favorite bands I'd have a brief moment of excitement and then a familiar feeling of disappointment when that person only knew 2-3 songs. I won't use the term "love" with a band unless I know A LOT of their songs, not just 2-3. Ozzy in particular is a great example, I meet tons of people who "LOVE!" Ozzy Osbourne and they know maybe 2-3 songs....he's been making music for 50 fucking years, he's got more than 2-3 songs!

[@K9Rations]

Those kind of people/lemmings SUCK!

[@Maximillian200HP]

@@K9Rations I won't even wear/buy a shirt for a band unless I own multiple albums of theirs.

[@K9Rations]

@@Maximillian200HP 😎👍

[@markandersen793]

I love Zeppelin, but never need to hear All Of My Love, Stairway, Rock and Roll or D'yer Mak'er again.

[@marguskiis7711]

True. Their hits are mediocre songs, their albums contain pretty much hit material.

[@mikek8553]

I never liked All My Love or D'yer Maker and back in the day I had about 30 plus vinyl Zep bootleg so I think I would be considered a fan. But man classic "krock" stations love shoving those 2 crap songs down your throat.

[@arloroan3168]

@@mikek8553 I was a tape trader back in the day and had tons of Zep bootlegs. I was a fanatic. I can barely listen these days. I still will tell you I'm a die hard fan though. Yay another 40 minutes of Dazed and Confused... but this one is from 73! LOL

[@erniefernandez1927]

Another one I cant stand is Over the Hills and Far Away, Thats another one that Classic Rock stations have played to Death -but with exception of the Líve version from How the West was Won, its weird but the live version doesnt bother me.

[@markandersen793]

@@arloroan3168 Yeah, I had the bootleg for For Badge Holders Only, some long songs for sure, Keith Moon even stops by to share drum solo with Bonzo.

[@carlmarks8170]

Midnight Oil - mostly remembered for "Beds Are Burning", "Blue Sky Mine", "Dead Heart", "Dreamworld", "Forgotten Years", "King of the Mountain" and "Truganini". GREAT BAND! It's a shame more people haven't listened to the incendiary albums they recorded in the early 80's... 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1.... Place Without a Postcard... Head injuries... Red Sails In the Sunset... Those were their true peak years. From 1986 onwards, they softened their sound for the American market and started writing catchy hit songs for radio play.

[@WCSkills]

Love all those Midnight Oil Albums. Scream In Blue...so awesome a song. Don't wanna be the one!

[@chrisadorno9979]

Love their live stuff such a great band

[@KellenFredricksen]

Def Leppard comes to mind immediately for me

[@ellisonlowrimore7751]

I thought the same thing!! Mirror! Mirror great song.

[@ChristopherNelson1976]

Time to work, let's just check KZbin real quick... uh, oh. A new Martin Popoff collaboration. Ok, work can wait.

[@jpaleologos1]

"Behind The Lines," "Me and Sarah Jane," and "Man Of Our Times" are great non-hit songs from the Collins/Banks/Rutherford era of Genesis.

[@midohiobuckeyeaorwarrior9743]

Try listening to "Deep In The Motherlode" from "...And Then There Were Three." Or "Dodo" from Abacab.

[@murraycampbell1548]

Ogre Battle is my favourite Queen song! Thanks Pete for the mention.

[@jonnyboybrownie6390]

An ode to the studio album and to the deep cut. when Bohemian Rhapsody comes on the radio, I switch over. But I'll happily listen to it as part of the album it came from. Good on you guys.

[@jimfritz9503]

Yes . Many songs work well as part of the Whole musical statement. This hits sell the album but might not / don t represent the entire work. Queen , P. Floyd , Supertramp are some examples.

[@derekroberts6654]

i always loved “Prophet’s Song” that’s like BR on steroids…

[@BlackMoore82]

18:06-19:00 - That's how it is each time I saw Anthrax and the one time I saw Public Enemy. A handful people at the shows only knew 'Bring the Noise' and that was it. The first time I heard a few people talk about that song was in the line-up before the gig and I'd just facepalm. One time I spoke up saying "You know they have more then one album or song for that matter right?" Those people would just look dumbfounded.

[@justamops]

I’ve seen various iterations of Yes live around 18 times, and I have all their live albums and DVDs, and for years I was thoroughly bored with “Roundabout”. But after not seeing them for a couple of years, I’ve finally come back around to enjoying that one.

[@derekemms9929]

Totally agree with your comments about Genesis (even though I am from England). One of my favourite bands since hearing Foxtrot on its release in 1972. Great show - thanks.

[@stephenscicluna5216]

Trying to catch up many past shows I missed the first time around - great show as always guys. I would add: Toto, Elton John and Chicago.

[@ritarollins6664]

I totally agree with Elton John. Any song on any of his records from his debut through 85 could be a hit. I love that man. His voice is pure platinum.

[@jeffd5759]

Scorpions, particularly 80s era. Rock you like a Hurricane, No One Like You, Big City Nights, etc. Give me the deep cuts any day from them

[@davorbrijacak]

My friend did some local radio show once and wanted me to help him with the setlist. I've sneaked Sails of Charon and he later criticized me for it, he expected those hit songs.

[@anthonyrivers1619]

Agreed sir!

[@treffbennett6534]

Scorps' suffered from balladitis, a problem quite a few metal bands were afflicted with back in the day......Steven Tyler never did find a cure for this terrible disease.

[@stuarthecht8196]

The band that immediately comes to mind is Genesis. I hated their "hit factory" era, but I loved this band, especially the albums ranging in time period from The Lamb through Duke.

[@MrSmitht04]

You guys do great videos together. Great chemistry. Thanks for sharing. Hope to see more

[@nodnarb0185]

How about a show on bands whose best selling albums are their worst ones.

[@marguskiis7711]

Iron Maiden, Genesis, Queen, Judas Priest, Deep Purple.

[@buzioldarryl]

Nice video! I enjoyed the discussion on hit songs. I agreed with most of the songs you guys discussed.

[@drummer78]

I would think Grand Funk Railroad fits in this category.

[@rick6582CNCMedicalParts]

I love grand funk...keep it shining on ..& am your captain...great...

[@drummer78]

@@rick6582CNCMedicalParts That is a hood one but I think though they are most famous for “We’re an American Band” which is a pretty overplayed/silly and not indicative of their more rockin earlier sounds.

[@frankf684]

@@drummer78 that song was the reason I didn’t listen to them for a long time.

[@dtltmtgt]

I often love the deep tracks and judge bands based on these, vs. the hits. Love your rant on this guys! Fun idea.

[@danceswithcritters]

Led Zeppelin's non-hits is by far their best stuff .

[@geruto17760]

Yes, and they never wanted to be a singles band. They hated the idea and were totally in albums. They had a forceful manager too, who pushed their idea very well.

[@giantsfan8872]

Idk about that..stairway is arguably their best song...rover is my favorite

[@hermittraveler2163]

I think Achilles Last Stand is the best Zeppelin song. Although; Stairway, Over the Hills, Rover, and the Rain Song are very impressive too.

[@Mike-aka747]

The Rover. Tangerine. Sick Again. Carouselambra. In The Evening. The Ocean.

[@sex6cult9revolution]

With LZ, there is no separation. They didn't make hits. They made the industry bend to them, not the other way around. (Gert Hirschfeld above me in this thread is 100% right).

[@teddkave327]

Definitely agree with Twisted Sister. This is a band I never cared for, until I saw a live concert on youtube. The first few songs they played were ones I never heard before, and thought 'Holy crap, this band is amazing!' Those songs I'd never heard before sounder nothing like their radio hits! It made me regret disregarding this band for so many years (decades actually).

[@sabyrk]

You just knew from the word go that Genesis was gonna be the grand finale of this episode.

[@DF-ee8vt]

Rush fits perfectly into this discussion!

[@mck7646]

Not really. Maybe Time Stand Still, not sure how high that charted though. Mostly their hits are quite good.

[@DF-ee8vt]

@@mck7646 I think I was reacting to a discussion near the end of this video and I forgot the title was "Hate". I like most of Rush's "hits", but their "non-hits" are so great, it's a shame more people don't know them, too. I agree with your statement.

[@Gunther-pr8jd]

Love Cheap Trick. Hate "The Flame" and "Don't Be Cruel."

[@Doobie1975]

those were also my least favorite Cheap Trick songs, I wish their earlier 80's ballads like "Stop This Game", "If You Want My Love" and "Tonight It's You" were bigger hits.

[@ellisonlowrimore7751]

Dream Police doesn’t get enough play time on any of the album. I want you to want me OVER PLAYED!!

[@TexasWildheartsFan]

In a perfect world, "Voices" would be their iconic "hit"

[@ellisonlowrimore7751]

@@TexasWildheartsFan I agree!!

[@Gunther-pr8jd]

@@ellisonlowrimore7751 ...and it's always the Budokan version.

[@anypoxynames]

Pete, you hit the nail, right, smack, bang, on the head. Non, rock/metal/prog stations thrive on their listeners having the attention span, of about five minutes. So they force feed them, all the catchy, samey songs and ram them down their throats. Not my friends but 99% of people I have worked with, over the years, fall into this category. You play them something, other than the radio hits and they go, WTF is that.

[@stephenbrown4211]

Dire Straits. Yes some of the early hits were great but I really don’t need to hear the Brothers in Arms hits ever again, except So Far Away. But that doesn’t get a lot of airplay

[@michaelbaucom4019]

This Dire Straits fan agrees, just tired of the whole album, overplayed, overlistened....only like So Far Away and One World now, occasionally Why Worry...

[@stephenbrown4211]

@@michaelbaucom4019 oh yes Why Worry. I love the instrumental segment.

[@LeeCharles1993]

@@michaelbaucom4019 what about the brother in arms song

[@LeeCharles1993]

@@stephenbrown4211 making movies is better in my opinion

[@stephenbrown4211]

@@LeeCharles1993 great album, along with Love Over Gold

[@spicykimchi1]

Too true about Def Leppard and Judas Priest. Oddly enough, when I used to teach English in South Korea, I learned that Priest's "Before the Dawn" was a well-known hit over there. I remember hearing playing once at a Haagen-Dazs.

[@Kongorlobo]

Really? That's cool

[@spicykimchi1]

@@Kongorlobo When I first moved there in 2006, one of the grocery stores (Home Plus) would play Deep Purple's "Highway Star" and Ozzy's "Goodbye to Romance." Some other bands that were really popular in Korea were Helloween, Royal Hunt, and (one of my favorite '70s prog bands) Camel.

[@madmattdrummer5487]

I wish I can start my own radio show that plays songs that aren’t played more than once every damn day! Imagine living your life only listening to the hits that bands made...

[@steibster6690]

Love these videos, it feels like sitting in a pub chatting about music.

[@steveramsey6562]

There's a reason most "hits" are hits, they are usually SOME of the best tracks on the albums, it's easy to say years later that songs like Photograph and You shook me all night long aren't that great after they have been drilled into your head for 40 yrs, I think most rock fans would be lying if they said they weren't pretty blown away by those songs and others when they first heard them on the radio.

[@godwillguideme.3773]

Very true....

[@jwoods6456]

Completely agree, I’m new to classic rock I’m 32 and when it’s new to me it’s great. I’ll listen to an entire album, but the hits are hits for a reason. 🤘🏾☮️

[@Fritha71]

@@jwoods6456 😎👍

[@dvg4104]

I liked "Bringing On the Hearbreak" the first couple hundred times I heard it -- but NEVER liked the version where they added keyboards!

[@aidenswords5809]

I agree, how can lesser songs b better than known ones, except maybe for epics luke suppers ready or gates of delirium or echoes which are just too long for radio

[@ejc636]

Another entertaining show. Thanks again for all the effort and insight you putting into the production. Here in the Uk you are gaining alot of traction. Thxs 🇬🇧

[@broncodeviltexas]

I'm a child of radio. Love all the hits. Would enjoy a segment on "songs that could or should have been hits "

[@ritarollins6664]

That is actually what this show is about. The deep album cuts that are so much better than the songs that were actually released

[@Zoey-K-1]

I think radio has trained people to not only appreciate hearing the same songs, or songs that all sound alike, relentlessly, but also to automatically dismiss anything that’s not the same song or a sound-alike song. I’ve noticed that most people can’t seem to wait to hear something they’ve heard a million times before, but if it’s something they’re not familiar with, or doesn’t sound just like something they’re familiar with, they can’t be bothered. Martin, I’m currently reading your Wheels of Steel NWOBHM book...excellent! I have This Means War ready to go when I finish this one.

[@Katzeninsel1]

KIss: "Beth" and "Rock and Roll All Nite" Queen: All singles starting with singles from the album "The Game" til releasing "Who wants to live forever" as a single (exception "Flash").

[@simonbarsinister8854]

HAHAHA. Interesting. I HATED "Flash" as a kid; now, I get it. I agree.

[@josephdefilippis07]

@@simonbarsinister8854 I think the movie overshadowed the album which is pretty good.

[@simonbarsinister8854]

@@josephdefilippis07 hahahaha

[@josephdefilippis07]

@@simonbarsinister8854 What I meant is the album is better than the movie that

[@simonbarsinister8854]

@@josephdefilippis07 OK. No harm done. I saw the movie as a 9 or 10 year old at my buddy's house, and it was terrible. I thought you were saying the movie was better than the song, and if you think that, I'm cool with that, but I thought you were kidding. I'm not an asshole who thinks he knows better than anyone (there are enough of those people on KZbin). I just found the movie to be terrible. My opinion doesn't mean that the movie WAS terrible.

[@christophercrowder872]

I"m sitting here chuckling as I watch/listen to this and listen to songs I really like get trashed, but then other songs I also really like get brought up as examples of great deep tracks. Excellent show again. (Except the Twisted Sister segment. I agree 100% with everything Martin said.)

[@Mike-aka747]

Golden Earring would be a great example of this. Everyone only knows Gaydar Love and Twilight Zone(which I don’t mind at all I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of that song).

[@danielreynolds7458]

white lions version if radar live is FAR superior

[@Mike-aka747]

White Lion aint even worthy of carrying Golden Earrings luggage at the proverbial airport.

[@danielreynolds7458]

@@Mike-aka747 yet they still managed a vastly superior version of a golden earring song...

[@Mike-aka747]

That’s a matter of personal taste. What makes white lions version so great. It sounds like worthless outdated hair metal to me. They did nothing new with it necessarily. Adding stupid hair metal guitar gymnastics? . Otherwise I dunno. I don’t get it! And in the live setting GE would rock that song much harder than the tamer studio version.

[@midohiobuckeyeaorwarrior9743]

"When The Lady Smiles" (1984) is a criminally underplayed Earring hit from the thrilling days of yester-year.

[@Jay.McCarty]

Oh "United". So many memories of a bunch of drunk teens, arms around shoulders, singing along to that masterpiece. It's about the only disagreement I have with these lists.

[@machupikachu1085]

..."united we never shall fall...." cause we're holding each other up :D

[@notoriodtc]

great topic gentlemen: first bands that comes to mind has to be judas priest, queen and KISS. I get mad now when I hear youve got another thing coming or another one bites the dust. Show me exciter or flick of the wrist. Rock and roll all night is dead to me but those tunes they rode on stage cold gin, strutter, cmon and love me, deuce, firehouse hotter than hell?? That last minute after the singing on hotter than hell when Paul changes up the tempo with that riff, Ace dives into a lead and Gene is hammering away - still gets me. Reading other folks agree on Metallica too, I played out the whole black album (my fault) by 1993 and also the dude who said fleetwood mac YES. The entire harlot era of the band is flawed compared to what Peter Green started. Rattlesnake shake alone

[@jepomo]

WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE SUCCESSES ARE HEARD MANY, MANY MORE TIMES THAN DEEP CUTS, THOSE THEMES WEAR OUT, AND YOU HAVE HEARD THE DEEP CUTS MANY TIMES LESS THAN THE SUCCESSES. BUT DO NOT FORGET THAT THE SUCCESSES STAND OUT FOR SOMETHING. YOU ENJOYED THEM AT THE BEGINNING, UNTIL YOU HEARD TOO MUCH. I LIKE YOUR VIDEOS VERY MUCH.

[@steevenfrost]

I like hit singles, as they can draw me in, and regard the album tracks better over time, over the hit I initially liked. It's only when the hit sticks out like a sore thumb that it doesn't belong on the album.

[@metalnga]

Great video! So Pete and Martin, I’ve only listened to Genesis from the Duke album forward. What album or albums would you guys suggest I go to for some of the best work with Peter Gabriel? Thanks!

[@metalnga]

@Martin Popoff Awesome! Thanks for the response Martin!

[@ukrocksounds3419]

Def leopard, Judas priest, Queen and Genesis. So many great deeper cuts. Than the hits.

[@Danimal77]

Def Leppard*

[@Cobra21245]

@@Danimal77 you beat me to it!!!

[@johnschanzle3593]

Usually when I would hear I bands songs for first time I would either a. Not like them so stop following Or B.like the songs so buy album and listen to whole album . Or C. Like songs or love songs buy album and usually like sound of band therefore I like the whole album I didn't dive deep into bands unless Initially liked their music This is why I love your show Pete and I tune it several times a week !

[@SomeSong2]

Judas Priest (Give me any Priest over the four songs the radio plays) Metallica (This was a no-brainer for their 90s hits and overplayed early cuts like Seek & Destroy) Ozzy Osbourne (Beyond tired of Crazy Train and Mama I'm Comin' Home) Bob Seger (Old Time Rock and Roll can retire to the nursing home) Alice In Chains (Really getting sick of Man In the Box and Down In a Hole)

[@davorbrijacak]

Mama I'm Coming Home I never liked but I had to play it live a few times with a local cover band, it was so annoying. Funny enough, guys from that band never heard classics like Over the Mountain when I showed them. Metallica's 90s hits are awful, especially Fuel which I luckily dodged playing with that same cover band. Seek and Destroy I have played numerous times though, unfortunately. Good song but not great, I always thought that was the weakest song on the album (ignoring Anesthesia), too easy mid-tempo riff and unnecessarily long song (tbf many Metallica songs should have been shorter).

[@midohiobuckeyeaorwarrior9743]

What's the 4th Priest song you hear over and over again? I only hear "You've Got Another Thing Coming," "Living After Midnight" and "Breaking The Law." Occasionally, I might hear "Heading On To The Highway," but not too often.

[@davorbrijacak]

@@midohiobuckeyeaorwarrior9743 Turbo Lover maybe? It's very commercial sounding but I like it. Painkiller perhaps because it's very popular, although not on mainstream radio but on YT and among metalheads. Not an easy sing along song though but a shredfest and you can't really get tired of that song unless you only play that for like a hundred times. Nothing else comes to my mind what would be 4th most overplayed JP song.

[@dtltmtgt]

At least Priest played "Saints in Hell" on the last tour. That was hopeful.

[@chaddubois8164]

Fuckin heavy song.

[@billymuellerTikTok]

I saw Chicago about 10 times - the last time was the 50th anniversary of the 2nd album which they played in it's entirety before an intermission and then played the hits. everyone in the audience were groaning and booing, screaming out the hit songs to play - yelling out "stop playing the new songs" LOL - they finished the album with 25 or 6 to 4 and took a break and everyone was like "they just started playing the good songs and now they're taking a break???"

[@tball5677]

Chicago died with Terry Kath

[@gabrielheftye973]

Whitesnake, Van Halen, Europe, Styx , Yes, Jimi Hendrix, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest

[@LeatherRebel75]

I tend to find that most casual listeners tend to hear the popular 80's Genesis hits, and they go, "Oh! That's Phil Collins." as opposed to confusing a Phil Collins solo track with Genesis. It tends to work the same way with Fleetwood Mac. They hear songs like "Dreams" or "Rhiannon" and call them Stevie Nicks songs, not Fleetwood Mac.

[@marguskiis7711]

Yeah, from their unnamed album this started.

[@michaeloedy1568]

I could be wrong. The years get blurry. But Against All Odds was a movie track monster hit that sent the entire music industry down a rabbit hole. Dokken was doing Nightmare on Elm Street. Bob Seger was doing Beverly Hills Cop. AC/DC showed up in that awful Stephen King movie. It all seemed to culminate into Judas Priest doing Johnny Be Good for the cheese ball movie of the same name. Anthony Michael Hall had to go into hiding for a while. Thank God no one knew who Uma Thurman was yet or it would’ve tanked her career.

[@simondunphy6973]

Great show. I'd go with.... Paranoid - Sabbath Ace of Spades - Motorhead Place Your Hands - Reef And, speaking as a Brit, I'd be more than happy to NEVER hear anything post-Duke by Genesis ever again.

[@thecocomastiux3655]

I disagree completely with Queen. They have great deep cuts, but their singles are generally the best songs in the album for example The Works and A Kind of Magic. Queen I and II are great, but they evolved. Novelty is not bad. Isnt innovation and how unique they are, what we like the most about Queen?

[@jimmycampbell78]

No. How many Queen studio albums have you listened to? I commented on Pete's 'Deep Tracks' edition where he covered Queen. There are so many great songs that are not on Queen Greatest Hits I & II for example, and arguably many of them are much better. I will list them, if you'll care to humour me. Some of them may have been released as singles but they weren't on the ever-present Greatest Hits compilations: Keep Yourself Alive, Great King Rat, My Fairy Queen, Liar, Father to Son, White Queen, Ogre Battle, Brighton Rock, Tenement Funster, In the Lap of the Gods Reprise, Stone Cold Crazy, She Makes Me, Death on Two Legs, I'm in Love With My Car, 39, The Prophets Song, Love of My Life, Sheer Heart Attack, Drowse, It's Late, Mustapha, Jealousy. That's plenty from the 1970s that a casual Queen fan might not be familiar with, and I'd rather listen to those songs than the majority of Greatest Hits I. You named a couple of albums from the 80s but my favourite songs on The Works are Tear It Up and Keep Passing the Open Windows! My favourite song on A Kind of Magic is Gimme the Prize but it's an average album by them and was written as a soundtrack to Highlander. I think Queen are perfect for this topic, sorry.

[@thecocomastiux3655]

@@jimmycampbell78 ive listened to all of them but the Paul Rodgers album. I love most of what you posted, but i stand by my opinion.

[@jimmycampbell78]

@@thecocomastiux3655 Fair enough. Also when Pete calls some Queen songs 'novelty' songs, I don't think he means unique or original. I agree with him in the sense that some of the 'hits' can come across as a bit tongue in cheek or a bit 'cabaret' - only way I can describe it! I generally prefer Queen's heavier or proggier sound and that means deep tracks on the 1970s albums.

[@geruto17760]

@@jimmycampbell78 so Crazy Little Thing called Love would fit this definition, right?

[@jimmycampbell78]

@@geruto17760 Yep definitely, it was a single off The Game. And it's on Greatest Hits I. Freddie doing a pastiche of Elvis.

[@billwang5462]

These dudes together crush.. My favorite duo. More please. Fabulous conversation !!!

[@LoveLiveMusic]

The Flaming Lips!! That's who I think of b/c I don't care for "She Don't Use Jelly", but they have so much other great stuff

[@tylerdell1878]

They suck

[@paulj6138]

Miley Cyrus waste of time blackboard scratch vocals

[@taylorkeahey5785]

Interesting pick! I’m a big fan of the Soft Bulletin record. No real hits on there, but some of their most creative yet catchy tunes.

[@LoveLiveMusic]

@@taylorkeahey5785 that’s a good record!

[@janspiljard]

I am not British (I am European), but I also do like really most of the Genesis stuff, including the 80s music. But I know that people were very happy when Script for a Jester's Tear of Marillion came out and you could hear people say, "Wow, finally a band that takes on the early Genesis stuff again."

[@waedi73]

Yeah we love nothing more than Village People, yes ? Yes, Drama, what an underrated album full of movies ! I am a camera !

[@hermittraveler2163]

Great album. Into the Lens is one of my favorite Yes songs.

[@whatwouldhousedo5136]

I love Drama- excellent album front to back.

[@Leo-ci9kc]

Thanks Pete for mentioning Yes and Boc. Agree with you completely. Also, I would put Chicago in this category

[@Carlo8836]

Genesis starting in the 80's reminds me of drinking decaff coffee.

[@josemiguelibarapablaza2495]

I totally agree with pete pardo's remark about other judas priest 's songs, not that well-known, that are never played live!!

[@gabe2869]

I love these kinds of conversations. This one is very interesting. Martin seems to be more annoyed by the labels and subsequently, radios reluctance to acknowledge an artists catalog in favor of a couple of tunes that will sell, regardless of how representative those singles are of the bands overall sound. Pete seems to focus more on his resentment towards a casual music fans ignorance. As a passionate music lover myself, I sometimes catch myself forgetting that most people treat music like artwork on the wall of a waiting room, and that is fine. I would suggest Pete that when you go to concerts in the future, focus more on the stage and less on the people in the audience. Odds are there will be enough songs for everyone. Also, I do not feel badly for any bands that "have" to play their hits, because guess what...they don't. Van Morrison hasn't played Brown Eyed Girl in probably 30 years. No one is making these bands play their hits on stage. If you resent your hit and hate it, then don't play it. The problem is that these guys know what's buttering their bread, and artistic integrity went out the window 25 years ago for most of these acts. I would imagine playing Cherry Pie or We're Not Gonna Take It at some state fair is still better than working in a factory somewhere.

[@seaoftranquilityprog]

Oh, I focus plenty on the stage...but it's really hard NOT to notice that while I am totally getting into what the band is playing, that the 50 people sitting around me are either talking, on their phones, or staring off into space blankly.

[@gabe2869]

@@seaoftranquilityprog Fair enough. Cell phones usually do ruin almost everything that is fun. I can't argue with that one.

[@machupikachu1085]

@@seaoftranquilityprog I respectfully disagree boss. Do you know what is worse than a band with 20 albums playing the same three hits in concert every night? A band with two albums that hasn't played a concert in 30 years because no single gained traction and they were dropped by the label. Singles are a necessary evil to generate NEW fans and revenue to add to your existing fan base. No revenue, no future compositions. Sometimes businesses have to pander to the unwashed masses by dangling the low-hanging fruit or using gimmicks (such as the cliched but effective "Top Ten" list on KZbin) to pay the bills and create future content. You gotta do what you gotta do to keep the lights on, right? ;)

[@tonylema5334]

Great segment concept!

[@vladdrakul7851]

For me the biggest example is the Beatles, She loves You??? Please Please Me??? Lady Madonna, Yellow Submarine? Hey Jude interestingly in the early days the Beatles showed they felt the same way by NOT PUTTING these mediocre TIRESOME hits on their albums. SURE SOMETIMES THE SINGLES ARE GREAT ('STRAWBERRY FEILDS, RAIN, PAPERBACK WRITER)! Completely agree with Pete's comments on the Grateful Dead i agree. I LOATH 'A Touch of Grey' or mediocrity like 'Alabama Get away' love stuff from Mars Hotel like 'Loose Lucy' short catchy and sharp. Their best LP is 'Blues For Allah' AND then the very underrated 'Shakedown Street' which is catchy but sharp not crappy.

[@rocky-o]

couldn't agree more...and you kinda touched on my biggest complaint with your spot on genesis analysis...it's o.k. when you dig music by a cetain artist or band, like genesis or fleetwood mac, but...when you say that they're your favorite band and you don't even know who peter gabriel or peter green are...that's just wrong.....it's funny to see a fleetwood mac 'fan' see one of the older album covers and they're like '...i never saw this one...is it new...'.......it's like when someone says 'johnny depp is my favorite actor'', yet they only know the pirates of the caribbean movies....blue oyster cult was another great example...their first three albums, which are their best, get ignored while the drippy 'burnin' for you' is on every playlist....sad...stay well guys...stay warm...peace....rocky

[@martinsmith6455]

Europe, Queen, The sweet, Instantly spring to mind. Its not that I hate the hits but the issue I have are fans that only know the hits and especially in Queens case only own the greatest hits. I have played queen songs to queen fans and they ask me who it is........ EUROPE same thing just think its The final countdown and maybe Carrie, and they have one of the best discography ever.

[@bubbadagger]

I never heard Europes first album till last year.so rockin

[@martinsmith6455]

@@bubbadagger second even more so. And since reforming are really Embracing the classic rock sound of purple, sabbath, ufo, lizzy etc.

[@bubbadagger]

@@martinsmith6455 im not famiar with their newer stuff

[@martinsmith6455]

@@bubbadagger check out War of Kings on KZbin you will not be disappointed

[@bubbadagger]

@@martinsmith6455 i will .cheers bro 🍻

[@janpoelkamp4229]

Great show again! Keep it up, guys!! 👍

[@marinsiric]

Not gonna lie, I really like the Yes and BÖC hits but I can see why they annoy you

[@aaronshoaf4644]

How can you hate some of those Queen hits like “Who Wants To Live Forever,” “I Want To Break Free,” “The Show Must Go On,” “Love Of My Life,” and “Crazy Little Thing Called Love.”

[@bramdecanck688]

Its actually really funny when i hear you guys talk shit about the phil collins years. Because im 18 yo my dad grew up with that era of the band. I really grew up loving this era. So I didnt even know about genesis being a progband. When I told this to my dad he couldnt believe it either. I always thought those were good pop songs. I guess its just a matter of age...

[@hanksta34]

Does the Dutch band Golden Earring having anything but Twilight Zone and Radar Love? I liked "When the Lady Smiles" as their followup album after getting lots of radio play of Twilight Zone but they played it like once on MTV before it disappeared.